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>HoloBirds: Souless Forced-By-Management Corpo Version

>> No.9800788

>>9800710
kfp cope

>> No.9800815

FINALLY the schizo thread, I was wondering where the fuck you guys were.

>> No.9800897

>>9800710
Is this just Marineschizo malding that she's part of a group now?

>> No.9800970

>>9800897
yes

>> No.9801118

>>9800897
I think corpo collabs go against the spirit of collabs since the point is knowing the chuubas decided on their own initiative to collab with each other, because they like each other and want to interact.

Management forced garbage completely goes against that idea. The idea was so poorly thought out they now needed fucking A-Chan to babysit them as translator, what a joke.

>> No.9801320

>>9801118
>implying gura hasn't wanted to collab with marine and aqua for ages
>implying marine hasn't wanted to collab with ina as well for ages

captcha: 8T KYS

>> No.9801407

>>9800897
unironically yes. be prepared to have her doing this for months to come.

>> No.9801454

>>9801118
>chuubas decided on their own initiative to collab with each other
Gura loves Aqua and likes Marine.
Marine deeply respects Ina as an artist and they have wanted to collab for a while
Aqua wants to improve at socializing, learn eigo, and collab with more people

They all wanted a bit of this.

>> No.9801541

>>9800710
I was a bit confused for a moment wondering how the fuck a cat-eared maid has anything to do with the ocean but then I remembered her name was Aqua and I felt my IQ drop 10 points.

>> No.9801569

>>9800710
>illustration by namo
Nice.

>> No.9801875

I know this is kind of bait but I really do feel like forced collabs are basically one of the worst possible things cover could ever do.
Removes a lot of the authenticity and genuine feelings people have when they collab together and just makes it feel like fake consumerism bullshit like it 100% is.

>> No.9801941

>>9800710
I like how Kiara is never invited to these JP collabs despite her being fluent in JP, meanwhile gura can't speak JP and ina is good but not fluent. I wonder how she's coping with this

>> No.9801954

I have the solution:
>endurance stream
>gura
>aqua
>locked in a room
>no one leaves until they can have a conversation in the other's language.

>> No.9802005
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9802005

More like Cumsea

>> No.9802007

>>9801875
It is pretty disingenuous. Especially when you advertise it heavily and throw money at it. It feels too overtly corporate that it starts to shatter suspension of disbelief.

>> No.9802009

>>9801118
>Gura and Ina are genmates.
>Aqua popped Gura's Hololive cherry and gave her a gift that she still carries around in Minecraft to this day.
>Marine is one tier below management, loves Ina, and was one of the first JPs to reach out to Gura a year ago.
You cracked the code, anon. They wanted nothing to do with each other and got forced to do a collab.
I could see Aqua getting strong armed into it by Marine and her boss, A-chan, but that's because she's socially stunted.

>> No.9802010

>>9801875
It would have been good if gura knew have to speak a lick of nip

>> No.9802028

>>9801941
Because Gura is literally the face of the company and makes them the most money by a long shot anyone who still denies this at this point is an absolute retard. Sure it's not fair and realistically she probably doesn't even want it but it's the truth.

>> No.9802097
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9802097

>>9800710
Did you guys rike it?

>> No.9802112

>>9800710
>they loved A-chan, let's copy the idea with EN
>Why do they hate omega?
>holobirds, smok, okfams, Baketere, etc formed naturally and work really well
>let's force it for EN, what could go wrong
Management is retarded.

>> No.9802132

>>9802009
Do realize a forced collab is still forced even if the people participating like each other and want to do it at some point?
The fact of the matter is is that it was 100% ran by management and as a result felt extremely fake.

>> No.9802172

Anything involving Kiara is soulless by default and she is only doing it to go after the numbahs!

>> No.9802184

>>9802097
This guy (yes he's a fucking male) pisses me off so goddamn much I'm fucking SEETHING
Every fucking comment of his is literally
>I'm helping
tier useless garbage. He has NOTHING relevant to say but feels the need to attentionwhore anyway.

>> No.9802187

>>9802028
>Gura is literally the face of the company and makes them the most money by a long shot
Not even chumbuds believe this

>> No.9802207

>>9802132
>>9802112
Youre both retarded

>> No.9802208

>>9802028
>the face of the company
In the west

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>>9802028
>Because Gura is literally the face of the company and makes them the most money by a long shot

>> No.9802239

>>9802112
I mean think about it, you have 3 extremely popular hololivers and Ina.
Whatever merch they inevitably sell is gonna have a shit ton of sales.

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>>9800710
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>> No.9802297

>>9802187
>>9802207
>>9802208
>>9802215
Anonchamas..... You do know that he's right don't you?
It's insane that thread readers can be so uneducated still.

>> No.9802336

>>9801118
>>9800710
>>9801875
>>9802007
I honestly highly disagree.
If everyone just kind of sticks to their own bubbles you never have new dynamics form and everything just kind of calcifies.
I don't think it should be the norm.
I don't think you should expect them to act like friends right off the bat.
But a major advantage corpos have over indies is that you don't constantly rely on the petty interplay of present relationships in order to get things done.

In other words, I think this is healthy. Do one of those per quarter and eventually people are gonna discover new things about themselves and their coworkers.
The idea of everything having to rely on immediate and personal relationships is why HR is such a cancerous concept nowadays and why people are becoming increasingly lonely, as such thinking means anyone who isn't either the biggest of extroverts or had a solid circle of friends before 16 gets left behind.

>> No.9802343

>>9802132
>"I can't believe management didn't do anything for the anniversary. They should give an ounce of a shit."
>"jfc why is management getting involved and organizing collabs."
You faggots have no idea what you actually want. Which means the girls don't, either. Management doing nothing is how you get Matsuri playing nothing but Apex for the last 12 years.

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>HoloSEA
but they already have an ID branch

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>>9802187
>>9802207
>>9802208
>>9802215

>> No.9802396

>>9802297
Funny how "Gura is best" and "Gura sucks" are both equally offensive statements here.

>> No.9802416

>>9802297
Stop samefagging. The number of IPs didn't go up.

>> No.9802439

>Cover is too restrictive, no JP and EN collabs? OUTRAGE
>NOOOOOOO STOP COLLABING JP AND EN AGAINST THEIR WILL
Pick one faggots, you can't choose both.

>> No.9802495

>>9801875
>authenticity and genuine feelings
just go to nijisanji

>> No.9802508

>>9802215
Tako Bell is a pretty fucking big company. That sponsorship deal was worth some seriously fat stacks.

>> No.9802509

>>9802394
One ID, two JPs, one EN. Moona is the face of the company too?

>> No.9802513

>>9802394
The face of the company and thier best streamer are in this image but Gura isn't either one.

>> No.9802529

>>9802416
You new here buddy?

>> No.9802598

>>9802509
Evidently yes

>> No.9802602

>>9802005
OH YOU

>> No.9802607

>>9802513
3 million subs is a lot of subs my guy

>> No.9802619

>>9802529
???

>> No.9802629

>>9802513
You seem to forgotten that all of the other merch was literally only Gura merch for that event.....

>> No.9802630

>>9800815
This entire board hates it.

>> No.9802664

>>9802394
I see both faces of the company, one of the face's wives, and Gura, the most subbed EN. What point are you trying to make?

>> No.9802666

>>9802439
Those aren't contradictory statements. Removing chuuba's ability to choose their JP/EN collabs and then forcing them to do them are both forms of restriction where Cover chooses what you do.
Still, I responded to this bait so I'll give you a solid 6/10.

>> No.9802665

why the fuck not? i heard that some holos have hard time strting collabs so let cover force some of them if they flop we can just laugh at them week or 2

>> No.9802670

>>9802513
That's not up to you to decide, my dude

>> No.9802673

>>9802509
The face of HoloID at least

>> No.9802674

>>9800710
Where's episode 1

>> No.9802687

>>9802439
This isn't a place where only the popular opinion is heard. There's schizos on both sides of the spectrum, so the board as a whole will always have something to bicker about.

>> No.9802719

>>9801118
>knowing the chuubas decided on their own initiative to collab with each other, because they like each other and want to interact.
Fucking kek. All collabs are for business reasons first and foremost anonchama

>> No.9802741

>>9802394
>Fubuki, the face of the company
>Pekora, because the fat bitchy bunny is crack cocaine to lonely slants like her
>Moona and Gura because diversity

>> No.9802744

>>9802630
Not your hivemind

>> No.9802761

>>9802666
>then forcing them to do them
Proof?

>> No.9802778

>>9802673
The same with Gura, the face of EN not the company.

>> No.9802801

>>9802607
Not when you underperformed in SC, hours watched, and are part of a side branch that doesn't even get 3d models

>> No.9802808

>>9802509
Moona is the face of ID, Gura of EN, Pekora of JP, Fubuki of all of Hololive.

>> No.9802827

>>9802630
This is a fact and >we all hate it together. Anyone who likes it is a redditor.

>> No.9802831

>>9801541
Minato also means harbor in japanese

>> No.9802856

>>9802629
Because she has a lot of numbers and Japs like to jack off to her cunny. Those things don't make her that face of the company.

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9802881

Had a year to learn some Japanese but didn't. What's the deal chumbros?

>> No.9802891

>>9802856
Yes they do

>> No.9802902

>>9802761
Nigga you retarded or something?

>> No.9802943

>>9802856
I mean demand for Gura is enough to crash Goodsmile's website. Gura shows up with taco bell sponsorship. Gura gets put up on the side of buildings in japan.
She may not be the face, but Cover clearly wants to market her and use her to make money.

>> No.9802957

>>9802891
This idiot is a falseflagger

>> No.9802974

>>9802630
I think they'd like it if it wasn't Aqua or Marine but maybe Subaru and Nene instead. /vt/ doesn't like either of the former two.

>> No.9802980

>>9802856
Yes they do

>> No.9803001

>>9802761
I'm not casting judgment on whether the chuuba are being forced to do this. I'm just pointing out how the two statements aren't contradictory.
We don't know whether or not the girls and Ina are being forced to collab since we don't get to see behind the scenes and I doubt any of the girls would confirm otherwise so it's really up to the cynicism of the person looking at the situation.

>> No.9803036

>>9802943
>use her to make money
Which is far from "face of the company" status.

>> No.9803048

>>9801941
She (along with IrYs) was literally in a JP + Ollie collab just last week. Why lie when it can be so quickly disproven?

>> No.9803062

>>9803001
But we do know
>Ina and Marine wanted to collab
>Gura wants to collab or talk with JPs like Marine, Shion and Aqua
>Aqua wants to get out there more, she finds Gura cute

>> No.9803071

>>9802881
why dont marine and aqua learn english? fuck off nigger you will never be japanese

>> No.9803113

>>9800710
well UMISEA is a better idea the omega lore shit, simple and to the point

>> No.9803138

>>9803062
Forced is still forced anon...

>> No.9803153

>>9802801
Gura's issue is that she streams a lot less than other holos. She still gets a fuckhuge ammount of views for each stream.

>> No.9803194

>>9803062
>>Gura wants to collab or talk with JPs like Marine, Shion and Aqua
not one sentence was said the whole stream how is this considered talking?

>> No.9803195

>>9800710
Why am I supposed to care about this group? They haven't built up any chemistry in the public over the past months.

>> No.9803205

>>9803113
Umisea is Omega lore you retard.
How the fuck do you not realize that?

>> No.9803231

>>9803062
Using your information provided, Aqua doesn't really seem like she would want to be doing this. Even the basic statement of "she finds Gura cute" is pretty universal to most of the JP chuubas.

>> No.9803242

>Holobirds
>Holosea
>Holocats

So what's Holodogs gonna be? Keep in mind that it needs at least one JP and one EN.

>> No.9803247

it's over
https://twitter.com/wooperfuri/status/1437963073877266436

>> No.9803249

>>9803194
B-but she said "nipple" over and over again!

>> No.9803253

>>9802394
>face of the place FBK
>most subscribed JP girl
>most subscribed EN girl
>most subscribed ID girl
It’s not rocket science

>> No.9803252

>>9803071
Pretty sure their English is better than Gura's English. I mean they did do those Duolingo streams.

>> No.9803258

>make a group and logo before the group streams together
>their first stream together is trash

Another brilliant move by management! Bravo Cover!

>> No.9803265

>>9803138
I don't think it's forced because every member wants it but it smells very corporate and unnatural

>> No.9803327

>>9802881
Had a year to stop being a faggot but didn't
What's the deal anon?

>> No.9803339

Your SC made this possible. Did you rike it?

>> No.9803351

>>9803247
She's still working for chinks, nothing new.

>> No.9803354

>>9803247
Is this official game art?

>> No.9803365

>it's forced because I say it's forced

>> No.9803372

>>9803205
No this seems more like a jap corpo move

>> No.9803379

>>9803258
>their first stream together is trash
This is some premium cope

>> No.9803381

>>9803327
Why do Chummys have to be like this?

>> No.9803388

>>9803242
Holorodents is next. Pakora wants her own group and will enlist Chaosrrat and Treerrat once the EN2 collab ban is over

>> No.9803401

>>9802630
roru
rumao

>> No.9803404

>>9803365
>It's not forced because I say it's not forced.

>> No.9803411

>>9803354
It was commissioned by Mihoyo

>> No.9803421

>>9803247
Why do you think Ina was so reluctant to collab with Coco? The moment she does all the chink mobile games are gonna drop her as an artist.

>> No.9803475

>>9803247
I mean she probably made more off this picture than she did off of Hololive this past month.

>> No.9803488

>>9803411
Cool.

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>>9802665
Based sensible anon. There's literally nothing wrong with this.

>> No.9803505

>>9800710
Ina and Marine are like Subaru in that they can have a fun collab with practically anyone. Sticking them with two people terrible at collabs is a good thing to do to draw the others out of their shell.

>> No.9803549

>>9803247
Fanart or official art? Genshin is the biggest gacha game in the world right now. If it's official then she's at the top of the world.

>> No.9803589

>>9801407
Marineschizo is a girl?

>> No.9803599

>>9803379
Learn what the fuck cope is you retarded nigger sucking faggot, and then cram this shit spewing collab filled with nothing but endless JAP noises up your prolapsed anus.

>> No.9803610

>>9803231
The only person you could even try to argue is being forced here is Aqua, but she seems to be fine actually.

>> No.9803645

>>9803589
Marineschizo posts his babble on fucking /fit/ do you think he's a she?

>> No.9803646

>>9803549
See
>>9803411
She says in the reply that it was official

>> No.9803665

>>9803599
He's seething

>> No.9803670

>>9803599
Uhh based.

>> No.9803705

Oh no, they were forced to play a videogame for an hour, management hate.
Then you faggots will begin to whine about the company not treating EN as idols like they do with JP when Kiara has her next members only stream.

>> No.9803738

>>9803599
>schizos still trying their absolute hardest to make the collab look like a failure just because they convinced themselves it was going to suck way before it even happened
what a sight

>> No.9803830

Mixing JP with EN is a mistake. Simple as.

>> No.9803850

>>9803738
I'm pretty sure this is the only place where the plurality of the website hated it. I liked it, but read the room.

>> No.9803876

>>9803705
Why even bring up Kiara? No-one here watches her membership streams? Why are you trying to alter the conversation away from the topic at hand?

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>>9802005
It's about to be Come and See if you don't fucking knock it off.

>> No.9803945

>>9803738
Nobody's saying it was a failure to just saying that they didn't like it and it wasn't entertaining to them and for those reasons it's extremely clear that forced collabs are a terrible idea and trying to get rid of gens is stupid as well.

>> No.9803986

>>9802336
This, these's girl take forever to start collabing people need to forget pekomoona as ''natural'' because that was 1 in a million, it's time for cover to start pushing things and see what sticks

>> No.9803993

Didn't watch the collab, is there any legit reason for why people think this is "management forced"? or is just the average sperg out every time Gura is involved with something?

>> No.9804009

>>9803475
I do wonder how much does a pic like that costs. Contractor artists never disclose their prices unless they're being blatantly exploited(like the ones making art for card games).

>> No.9804031

>>9803404
>forcing force as the issue

>> No.9804041

>>9803993
Did you... Just not see the OP image?

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>>9803896
That was pretty fucking good, anonymous

>> No.9804097

>>9803610
Aqua never passes on corporate shit. She's in Spice Love, NegiU and did a few sponsored sololives as well. Didn't bail on Bloom to focus on herself either, she's always in.
She's not lazy, she's just shy.

>>9803876
Because it's always the same crap. They're in the wrong for not treating EN the way they do JPs, but they're also wrong the moment they do. JPs are expected to work, they're expected to be part of company events because they're employees. Whining about "muh corporate mandated collab" is insane. This is still a job.
It's fair if used for criticism because you thought it was unnatural and a shitty stream or whatever, but asking their talents to work on their projects is hardly draconian.

>> No.9804101

>>9803945
>trying to get rid of gens
Proof?
>>9803993
/vt/ hates Aqua and Marine the most out of the JPs. Nothing new.

>> No.9804136

>>9801320
So? That's just a convenience. It was still something management organised.
"We want you 4 to collaborate as an ocean-themed group." And they all would've said, "Sure, sounds good", because this is a job and they're getting paid.

>> No.9804205

This Collab wasn't a bad idea. Just wasn't worth watching live..

>> No.9804210

>>9800710
nijicope again

>> No.9804264

>>9804101
>Proof?
NTA but I think he's talking about holoMyth and holoCouncil not being numbered and instead having a name.

>> No.9804282

>>9803850
Well you're wrong. In general whenever they start saying "If you don't agree you're reddit" or "We (have preference)" it's 3 guys trying to push a consensus by being loud and retarded

>> No.9804304

at this point they should just force ultimate cringe collab by swapping marine and ina with mori and matsuri

>> No.9804360

>>9800710
2 artists and 2 autists.

>> No.9804403

>>9804041
I did, but I did it again this time with my schizo glasses
>Brought together by their ocean-related similarities
Schizos interpreted this as "forced by management", am I correct?

>> No.9804516

>>9801118
Gura had liked Aqua a lot before joining Holo herself, has said she wanted to collab with her several times and also wants to join Akukin. She also had gotten to talking with Marine since like week 1 as well ... last year. If "literally a year-long run up time and maximum possible time for Gura to even exist at all and talk to these people and saying she wanted to collab with them" is too short and artificial for you I think there is literally no pleasing you.

The question I suppose would be "what's Ina doing there" as Ina doesn't have the actually-evident interest Gura always had. However, Ina had expressed herself as a fan of Holo overall itself as well including well before joining, and I think basically Gura was like "I wanna be with them but am real afraid to talk to them, but you know some Japanese so maybe we can do it together" and thus umisea is born (even though Aqua has nothing to do with the ocean or anything in specific besides her name lol).

>> No.9804536

>>9804136
kfp stop your damage control.. makes you look pathetic

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As much as I think this advertising and 'Umisea' branding takes away from this and makes it feel a little organic, truth is 3 out of 4 of the girls are a combination of quiet, introverted, and sperg and there's a language barrier on top of it. Can't expect Marine to do all of the work and I guess if you're wanting to have more JP/EN collabs it's gonna take a little jumpstarting to get things running.

>> No.9804783

>>9800710
take your meds, schizo.
>>9800788
you too.
>>9802132
the trick is that it's most likely not forced, schizo. medicate.
>>9802741
>because diversity
cover's not a californian business, anon.
>>9802719
m e d s.
>>9802761
there is none.
>>9802902
he isn't, but you absolutely are.
>>9803138
chanting "forced" over and over without basis doesn't make you correct. take your meds.
>>9803036
what do you think "face of the company" status is, retard?
>>9803247
>posts a nothingburger
>omg it's over!
meds.
>>9803599
>hoes mad
>>9804101
EN management wants to not consider each batch of holoEN talents a "generation". some bullshit about not wanting a heirarchy to form in viewer's minds or something, that absolutely nobody who isn't a stuffed suit would ever think means anything.

>> No.9804833

>>9804136
Aqua really has nothing at all to do with the ocean or the navy or anything like that. She has no theme or lore at all. She's a 'gamer maid' and that's it.

It's more like "gura always liked Aqua and wanted to collab with her since the beginning" is why she's there. Ina is there because Gura needed some kind of mediator/translator. If there were any liberties taken on part of management it might have been that Kiara would have been the first choice but Cover management stepped back and thought "wait a minute, Ina is also technically water based, hey we could make this a thing."

The other thing is there have been a few other EN-JP group collabs but you just don't see A-chan there waiting to chime in. Why they had A-chan there to mediate, I dunno, maybe as an additional translator and/or they actually were paranoid someone was gonna chimp out and management only let it happen if they're there almost audibly breathing down Gura's neck.

>> No.9804960

>>9804516
>(even though Aqua has nothing to do with the ocean or anything in specific besides her name lol).
Aqua literally has an anchor as one of her main design icons in her outfits. She doesn't play up to it in her character, but design wise it's there.

>> No.9805031

>>9804833
>マリンメイド服のバーチャルメイド。
>A marine maid-styled virtual maid.
Literally from the hololive website.

>> No.9805199

>>9801118
Gura is too autistic to ask for collabs and JP are afraid of offending EN.

>> No.9805220

>>9805031
Cover can say that, but if you actually hear Aqua talk about herself she clearly gives 0 shits about lore/setting at all to a degree even beyond most other early Holos. She's just herself and is/presents as herself, kind of like Coco is just herself and the dragon thing is way way way secondary. She wouldn't know what her own backstory is if you asked her, Shion tried probing at it a bit and she had absolutely nothing at all to say about it.

>> No.9805248

>>9804717
Goddamnit inorganic. Fuck me.

>> No.9805280

>>9804783
Fuck off Omegatranny

>> No.9805334

>>9802336
They'll do this collab and they'll never talk to each other again

>> No.9805372

>>9800710
>Copying Lazulight/Obsydia
I know hololive wished they had Elira, Selen and Pomu, but this is just sad

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>>9804833
Aqua works at Captain D's it all makes sense now

>> No.9805535

>>9805220
>>9804833
retard

>> No.9805694

>>9805535
Wow brilliant comment faggot. Aqua gives no fucks about her lore at fucking all, that is not controversial or obscure knowledge. It's pure coincidence gaou happened to make her nautical themed and that works with umisea. Gura was interested in her since before she was Gura.

>> No.9805719

definitely feels corporate. but I don't think it's going to be soulless forever, since it's not a completely random group. gura/aqua was bound to happen at some point, marine loves ina, and ina knows a little japanese while keeping gura from being an awkward lonely EOP. the language barrier is really strong though. they made this stream work but as a long term thing I kind of worry for them.

>> No.9805820

>>9805372
I'm a nijifag too but this is just cope

>> No.9805866

>>9804403
Close, yes the sterile text is part of it, but it's also the management funded logo, hired artist image, and absolutely zero likelihood that any of these girls would think this up.

>> No.9805983

>>9805719
Keep in mind SMOK, SENPAITACHI and OKBR are also things too, we have no idea if those are all organic or not but actually we can be pretty certain SENPAITACHI is for real and at the very least OK and BR are by themselves real things, why exactly those got mushed together though I'm not entirely certain.

The holobirbs thing also is inorganic too. Reine and Kiara had fucking nothing to do with Shuba who FYI to EOPs literally isn't even a duck, it was just a nickname for her and became a thing, like how Yagoo is literally just Shuba mispronouncing his name but became a thing. Now any new avian-related Holos are inducted to that group now. Actual collabs may come out of it; wouild anything think Mumei becoming a holobirb just because lolowl is organic?

>> No.9806000

>>9805866
>absolutely zero likelihood that any of these girls would think this up.
and there's where your retardation shines through

>> No.9806046

>>9805983
Also lol filter it's "FA.MS" for senpaitachi.

>> No.9806095

Anons here who didn't think this was a big deal are based, or at least sane. The rest of you are schizo dramafags.

>> No.9806137

>>9805983
>SMOK, SENPAITACHI and OKBR
Those are fan-names given to groups that formed naturally. Same as the fubuki/watame/flare group that felt really weird but happened completely naturally

>> No.9806191

>>9806137
OKBR is definitely not a fan name, I know because there was a big discussion over why Lamy is R instead of L

>> No.9806223

>>9802172
This but unironically

>> No.9806232

>>9806000
The cope is real.

>> No.9806240

>>9805983
Well holobirds was bound to happen, whether by fan association or forced by management. if there were multiple sharks, dragons, whatever, the same thing would happen naturally with those as well. But when it comes down to it, the only "organic" group that makes complete sense I can think of is o'riends. not that anyone cares about o'riends

>> No.9806274

>>9806232
I accept your concession

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>>9806191
Probably because it sounds like you're saying 'OK' to 'BL'

>> No.9806605

>>9806387
Yes that's the official reason, which is why there was a big dicussion on twitter because the first we heard of the group it was already OKBR

>> No.9806674

>>9805694
Omega Retard.

>> No.9806754

>>9805280
Fuck off Omegatranny.

>> No.9806805

>>9805694
retard

>> No.9806818

>>9802184
Take your meds, schizo.

>> No.9806831

>>9806240
>O'riends
>organic group
KFP hands typed this post

>> No.9806979

>>9802112
fyi newfriend,only /vt/ hate omega
did you know out japanese equivalents hate a-chan too

>> No.9807022

>>9805983
and kiara isn't a chicken and reine isn't a turkey
holotori was organic in the sense the talents and fans ran with making it a thing.

>> No.9808278

>>9800710
i vaguely remember another official subunit they did but cant remember for the life of me who was in it, anyone know?

>> No.9809022

Can anyone make out the joke Ina made at 11mins in? I keep listening but my ears not good enough

>> No.9809176

>>9800710
Holobirds is unfortunately shittier than this will ever be, because it has Kiara.

>> No.9810465

>>9808278
remember project ALICE

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>> No.9811007

>>9803253
Oh shit never thought about that.

>> No.9816560

>>9800710
I don't understand you faggots, you were bitching and moaning when there were no ENxJP collabs and now they are collabing you are still bitching

>> No.9818890

>>9816560
hard to be excited for a collab when it's presented like it was some focused group approved unit with a whole ad campaign ready to shill it as the next big thing.

>> No.9819602

>>9800710
Is Aqua here just for her name????? I thought she's a maid

>> No.9819874

>>9804205
it's not worth watching the VOD either.

>> No.9819961

>>9801875
They had no choice. The retard shark wouldn’t of initiated anything herself if her life depended on it

>> No.9819977

>>9801875
They had no choice. The retard shark wouldn’t of initiated anything herself if her life depended on it

>> No.9820024

>>9819602
Other than some "nautical" imagery on her clothing, she doesn't really have much connections to the sea, so yeah, instead of thinking to deep about "lore" reasons to make sense of it, the simplest explanation is probably some NUMBAHS calculations by management or whatever.

But hey, I'm not even "mad" about it (why would I? No sweat off my back either way), because even if the occasion is "forced", it can be a good thing if it helps get Aqua out of her shell and interact with new people outside her comfort zone.

>> No.9820264

>>9819961
>>9819977
The absolute state of Gura antis

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>>9801875
Go watch Nijisanji if you want pure unadulterated chemistry dot tm

>> No.9822210

>>9818890
>waaaaah I want my shut-in femcel otakus to become fuck buddies organically, not because A-Chan asks them to do a collab
Find a less retarded hill to die on.

>> No.9824141

>>9803071
learning japanese =/= wanting to be japanese
what kind of EOP cope is that?

>> No.9824171

>>9800710
Kiara please let us schizo post in peace. I dont care about your holobird shit.

>> No.9824260

>>9805334
Extremely unlikely actually

>> No.9824615

>>9802881
Lack of quality sleep impairs memory formation.
Management forces Gura to go to countless meetings in the middle of the night.
It's management's fault yet again!

>> No.9825006

>>9804833
>Aqua means water
>Minato means harbor
>oshi mark is an anchor
>anchors on outfit
>literally a marine maid

clinically retardet: why is she in a sea-themed collab?

>> No.9825218

>all those forced collabs
>still no official elves only group

>> No.9828500

>>9803830
This.

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>>9800710
>complains that management isnt doing anything for their talents
>management then arranges a group collab, giving them a groupname, an animated manga, a set schedule for the collabs and possibly more
>"Soulless! Forced by Management!"

>> No.9829029

I don't really care about meta commentary or whatever but this is pretty cringe. JP + EN styles don't match, especially not the humor. The only time it works is if the JP side carries it somewhat and the EN side follows up on it, which isn't a sleight to HoloEN idols but Gura is like the most useless idol ever in a collab like this and Aqua is too awkward to work with English people.

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9829108

What do you think is her on hat retards

>> No.9829161

>>9802630
so /we/ hate it?

>> No.9829227

Marine collabs are always at least redeemable.

>> No.9829260

>>9800710
Holobird have awful chemistry though. SeaSea at least allows Marine to shine.

>> No.9829263

i don't think this works in longer streams like this. en/jp interactions are fun if both sides are fluent (ie coco + holoen, kiara + holojp in amongus, this is probably why all of en gen2 speaks jp) OR just in short bursts so you can funny clippable moments with less chance of awkward air time.

>> No.9829327

>>9829108
>What do you think is her on hat retards
Want to try again, strokechama?

>> No.9829336

>>9802184
betaomega is staff, not one person

>> No.9829635

>Management does nothing for these girls!
>Management put together and organized this collab, hired people to create an animated manga, and so on
Which is it, /vt/?

>> No.9829686

>>9829635
Management did this for the company, not the girls.

>> No.9829751

>>9829635
Neither. EN is entering its contrarian stage. Soon theyll even turn their backs on mythbreakers.

>> No.9829756

>>9829686
>Management forced these girls, who have spoken about wanting to collab for months, to collab
Woah... cover is truly a black company...

>> No.9829801

>>9829635
It's whichever one pisses me off the most at the moment
And next week I'll be bitching about the other one and you'll be sitting there reading it like a bitch

>> No.9829835

>>9829801
I'm not here as often as you seem to think, but have fun I guess.

>> No.9829861

>>9829756
Why are you defensive? It's not necessarily a bad thing but this is unlike a standard collab that the girls would put together. This is something Cover came up with to sell merchandise, music, and generate ad revenue. A regular collab doesn't come with an animated comic book series and a logo.

>> No.9830018

>>9800788
Fpbp

>> No.9830062

>>9816560
I DON'T want them.

>> No.9830236

>>9829861
With the amount of influence Marine especially holds in Hololive, this feels to me like something she came up with and pitched to the higher ups. I don't think the higher ups would push for a jp/en collab group on their own, considering how they generally keep the two groups seperate, but we know Marine has already done so in the past.
Even if it were entirely suits though, it's silly to bitch about a collab where every member has, for months, expressed a desire to collab with others in the group.

>> No.9830373

>>9800710
>>9801118
>>9802007
>>9803265
>>9803372
>>9805719
They work for Cover CORPORATION, dumbfucks. Of course they have to do their jobs, you useless commie shitters.

>> No.9830377

>>9829108
Sadge she dont know english well. She are funny

>> No.9830419

>>9816560
Back when Mori and Korone collab was ok.
You never know will it work or not.

>> No.9830435

>>9830236
>but we know Marine has already done so in the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmm8ig9P_Ak

>> No.9830572

>>9800710
>>9801875
>Noooo its corporate
Everything about Hololive is corporate. The contracts, rules and restrictions are why the girls can't say or do a lot of the things they want to. They're always under corpo garbage 24/7 because of that, complaining about some weird collab group is retarded. They endorse products, get sponsorships, try their best to get superchats so they can make money for their company and themselves. It's all corpo shit, if you want something with no management watch indies and be a saviorfag

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>>9801118
Gura is on record saying she wanted to collab with Marine and Aqua, i dont know about Ina but she has no reason to not want to collab with the JP girls. This rrat is dead.

>> No.9831661

>>9800710
BOOK IT OP
THE OGEY RRAT LEGENDS SHILLING TEAM LETS GOOOOOOO

>> No.9831880

I didn't realize Aqua even still gave a shit about her theme since she abandoned it almost entirely for nekomimi mode.

>> No.9832025

HoloCanids (Polka, Fubuki, Mio, Korone) when
HoloCats (Gura, Aqua, Okayu, Botan) when

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