/#/ - Numbers thread

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ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/ (RIP)
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

[Anonymous No.]

Today's Top 25

>01 :: 68,562 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>02 :: 64,599 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>03 :: 53,841 :: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>04 :: 31,781 :: Muimei (Hololive)
>05 :: 21,477 :: ars almal (Nijisanji)
>06 :: 20,399 :: Gura (Hololive)
>07 :: 20,050 :: Mori (Hololive)
>08 :: 19,622 :: Marine (Hololive)
>09 :: 18,082 :: Ina (Hololive)
>10 :: 17,772 :: Botan (Hololive)
>11 :: 17,391 :: Yashiro Kizuku (Nijisanji)
>12 :: 17,239 :: Nene (Hololive)
>13 :: 17,179 :: Subaru (Hololive)
>14 :: 16,980 :: Amamya (Nijisanji)
>15 :: 15,807 :: Rushia (Hololive)
>16 :: 15,313 :: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17 :: 13,921 :: Fubuki (Hololive)
>18 :: 13,913 :: Ange Katrina (Nijisanji)
>19 :: 12,755 :: Noel (Hololive)
>20 :: 11,956 :: Shion (Hololive)
>21 :: 11,369 :: Inui Toko (Nijisanji)
>22 :: 11,277 :: Kaida Haru (Nijisanji)
>23 :: 10,695 :: Leos.Vincent (Nijisanji)
>24 :: 10,423 :: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>25 :: 10,341 :: Himawari Honma (Nijisanji)

A good day for numbers, numbers so big 10k streams got cut out of the top 25

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655654
It's odd that Gura's Wario stream outdid two anniversary celebrations

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655826
Gura is... powerful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655528
as anon said
>>9655848
Not even Suisei and Mori get those kind of numbers, much less someone with low EoP appeal.
Let's not pretend like the Phony cover isnt doing immensely well.

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>>9655848
*inb4 dead subs anon shows up
>>9655654
No wonder 2views, wvt and asp seethe so much at corpos.

[Anonymous No.]

Jump King numbers

Konata - 32 hours
Pekora - 28 hours
Okayu - 14 hours

Catto mogged them all (but missed out on numbers milking)

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>>9655654
Where’s Kanae? He got like 15k when he was playing genshin or it wasn’t counted?

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>>9655848
True. I was just expecting a bigger crowd for the two 1 year anniversary streams. I think Kiara is currently receiving similar numbers as Mori. It'll be interesting to see what Gura and Watson will get since they'll be back to back

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>>9655534
Anyone got the numbers from Nene's second slither.io stream? She reused the freechat frame not tracked by the services in >>9655571.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656108
Counts for the next day, same as Kiara

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>>9655534
The only surprising thing here is Gura beating the anniversary streams, and to a certain extent Pekora almost taking the 1st spot just by playing a random kusoge and sucking at it. Today was pretty insane overall though, those are numbers we don't see very often.

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>>9656108
Not seeing it here https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-09-12
Maybe it was after midnight JST?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655848
but then ars and mumei both outdid two celebrations and gura. top kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656226
Isn't it that 17.2 on 12th place?

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Playboard so bad when it comes to give average stream viewers? It shows Pekora and Gura being very close in terms of average viewers but Pekora is clearly reaching a lot more than Gura. Am I in the wrong or isn't there any actual way of getting accurate averages?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656396
>199 KB
> Why is Playboard so bad when it comes to give average stream viewers?
Sample rate is once every 10 min

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656396
Have you considered that that might be the average?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656396
pekora median is usually 22k, and she streams alot more than gura. you are forgetting the streams where she gets the lower end

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656345
It's to be expected with collabs with at least one relevant VTuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655826
That says more about Myth without Gura

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>>9656488
Kek I tried using GIMP for the first time to make that "edit", thing's a mess. I used waaaay too many layers.

>>9656488
>>9656595
>>9656625
Fair enough, I guess I expected Pekora to have a lot more viewers than Gura, though a 6k different is still huge in its own right.

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>>9656396
That seems accurate enough, Pekora's averaging 21k for the first 10 days of the month (before this Jump King bump) and Gura was at 16k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656762
Raising an average is actually pretty hard, unless you consistently hit high numbers the more you stream the lower your average actually gets.

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>>9656012
>immensely well
>can't get in a month what one song got in a couple days
Sure, if you say so. Chima's songs all perform terribly anyway so it should be expected. People aren't fooled by her faux opera thing anymore. She can't sing and she sucks at streaming wjmhich is why her stream numbers are so low. Stop boosting midgets in the numbers thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656862
You don't have to be so jealous that the "idol" agency doesn't have any good singers while the streaming one does

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656072
Aqua - 20.5 hours (10.5h in game)

But the big question is when is Korone playing Jump King?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9657011
Forget jump king, when the fuck is she playing Doom?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656970
Good singers yet nobody watches their songs, riiiight. Did you see the top 100 posted yesterday? Hololive crushes Nijishitty. Stop boosting midgets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656862
Why are cumbuds like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9657072
This, we should stop talking about sub 10k viewers in this thread. Makes me wanna puke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655534
JUMP_King_Usada

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655534
>Kuzuha wins again
>Gwelu beating EN2
"nijisanji is finished" they said.

[Anonymous No.]

Mori $30k
Kiara $20k+

[Anonymous No.]

>>9657660
>Pomu avatar
>Doesn't discuss NijiEN
Okay, okay, potshots aside, anyone who really believes NijiJP is in any real trouble is an idiot, falseflagging or a dramanigger. Or maybe all 3.
>>9657046
Never bitch, just like she's never going to play Ikki online!

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>>9657980
>nijiEN all stable
>holoEN hemorrhaging viewers
who is actually in trouble here? shark can barely get to 20k now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658029
Stable at 1k lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658029
Fuck off falseflagger, tribalnigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658087
Selen gets 3-4k for Apex with 100k subs, chicken has millions and gets less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658029
Imagine boasting about being "stable" with these numbers in the holy numbers thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658140
Sana got 7.5k with the same subs as Selen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658029
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658152
One million less subs btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658459
lol why are you avoiding the nigger anon?>>9658204

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658459
Ah yes another nijinigger attempt to push small numbers > Big numbers in the numbers thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658505
7.5k in a debut month with a hololive crutch, nice failure. She will be Anya tier in a few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658459
Anon stop ignoring the other reply please, it's pathetic. Everyone knows Kiara is a failure, barely beating one of her worst streams in a while is not an achievement.

[Anonymous No.]

>same image as the op image of nijien bait thread
Why do you hate them so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658459
Hmm very convincing argument. The best NijiEN on her BEST day get comparable numbers to a low HoloEN on her WORST day. Guess Holos got put in their place.

[Anonymous No.]

>holofags
why do you think you are superior when Emperor Hal got 130k as an indie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658554
soon the cope will transform into "debut year buff", kek

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>>9658610
Hal is an honorary Holo, retard.

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>>9658635
Cope? EN2 is dead on arrival, even the holo tribalist idiots on this board don't like them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658588
Stop shilling your failures in the holy numbers thread then

[Anonymous No.]

>>9657660
>massive Niji tournament with dozens of Niji scum
>barely beats some autistic girl playing kusoge
I wouldn't brag about this Nijiniggers. There was no shitty tournament yesterday and not a single Niji made the top 10. That is the norm. Delusional Nijiniggers I swear.

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>>9658640
yeah that's why Hal trained Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) and played in a team with Kuzuha (Nijisanji) exclusively.

[Anonymous No.]

ignore the retarded bait, retarded anons

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>>9658650
Archive reps Anon, it's not like EN1 didn't get a shitton of shitposts about them either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658459
>Skyward Sword

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658690
>Gwelu beats 5 EN2s together
I guess he's just that charismatic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658681
>holy numbers
>7k is good btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658690
I thought they would just ignore that this happened completely, but bragging about it is a whole new level of retardation

[Anonymous No.]

1 ban and half the posts on this thread would be gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658787
>Holy numbers
>stable 1k viewers is good btw, and also it beats 7k because of *shitty nijicope*

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658772
What is his average with no tourney buff? Oh, its super shitty? Yeah, that is what I thought. Know your place Nijinigger scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658640
Stop posting this meme.
He's honorary Vspo, like Kanae and Towa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658872
>Nijinigger
that's no way to talk about Sana

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>>9658854
Who said that fucking word, not me. I said that we're only wanted to talk about BIG NUMBERS in this thread. You retarded tribalist scum ruining our fun by using sub 10k sub and bragging them is just pathethic.

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>>9658928
see
>>9658029
If you didn't post this kindly fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658928
*views
Damn i'm mad. Someone post numbers, to drown out the retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9658999
>Good talents in each company
>Hololive
All of them
>Nijishitty
None

[Anonymous No.]

please holotards, big numbers only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9659074
I like this. Post only Kuzuha, Pekora, and the occasional Miko. All other retards are completely irrelevant to this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9659074
The absolute state of nijicope

[Anonymous No.]

>>9659173
>cope
King Kuzuha owns this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9659074
>>9659238

[Anonymous No.]

>spamming/flooding

[Anonymous No.]

>>9659238
How do we save jun channel anons?
He only pulls 50-60k nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>78 replies
>23 IPs
yep that's a whole bunch of seanig samefagging going on, i'll see you guys next thread or if something interesting happens

[Anonymous No.]

774.

[Anonymous No.]

Crazy how there was a tournament and only like 10 posts actually about it numberwise in here and last thread. Really puts into perspective how many ACTUAL Nijifags are here compared to the lengthy, detailed number conversations that spawn from a single Hololive stream.
Keep that in mind when you see an uppity Nijifag (falseflagger)

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>>9661020
but wait you are an uppity Nijifag

[Anonymous No.]

>>9660954
So yeah, getting carried hard by Haneru and Patra like they always were with Met picking up some of the slack recently

[Anonymous No.]

>>9657980
>Doesn't discuss NijiEN
It seems like bringing that up crashed the thread. Very sensitive topic anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9657660
>>9659074
>>9659238
5000jpy is the base price, each following shitpost is 1000 more. we're looking at a total of 18000jpy here.
>Latest VOD
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4H9GdGY_8TA
>Membership
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSFCh5NL4qXrAy9u-u2lX3g/join
>Free chat, superchat at any time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-wP62z90Lk
>Voice packs
https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/detail/dig-00091?ima=3249
reminder that membership is mandatory and thank you for your continued patronage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9661416
T-TAKAI! How much would it be to shitpost with Prince Astel!? Something more accessible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9660954
Haneru actually got passed for 1st place in the last few months?
She didn't even drop that much from her avg, so there might still be hope for Animare's growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9661553
subbing to his highest membership tier allows you unlimited shitposts until you cancel your subscription. hope it helps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9660954
Why are you midget posting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9661842
Prove you’re not a mindless zombie: post your oshi’s name, company, latest VOD and the three (3) things that made you fall for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655534
>#6
Chumbros, why can't we win?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9661842
not only that, it's also all in moonrunes lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>9662062
ngmi

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>>9661966
>post your three (3) things that made you fall for your oshi
This is supposed to be a number thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Any exact data for number of membership ?

[Anonymous No.]

>he doesn’t know kana
>he doesn’t know first grade kanji
>he doesn’t know the counters

[Anonymous No.]

>>9661842
>complaining about numbers in a numbers thread

>>9660954
Is there more info on 774 beyond this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9662179
just guess lol

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>>9662336
Some dedicated dude on /jp/ makes these graphs every few months? What more info do you want?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9662179
No such thing unless you're a company insider and are legally authorized to release such info.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9661020
Are you suggesting that the smaller amount of Nijiniggers as shown by the numbers aren't mentally capable of being Nijikeks whenever someone other than Kuzuha gets big numbers?

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>>9662179
Your best bet is to go by emotes for smaller vtubers.
https://www.streamscheme.com/complete-guide-to-youtube-gaming-emotes/

[Anonymous No.]

Even though people bring up Kuzuha, it doesn’t seem like anyone cares. It seems like the most sensitive topic here is NijiEN vs HoloEN, particularly with the focus on EN2. Midget wars in particular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9662370
I am curious about how the numbers work out for them overall. They don't seem cash strapped, but they seem stagnant beyond the few outliers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9662507
I have no idea.

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>>9662443
because if you take away apex, valorant, tarkov, SFV, pokemon unite, baseball, tournaments, idol manager, rare and elusive zatsudans, his PC and iphone, then amputate his limbs, shave his head and send him to live with his cousins in the philippines kuzuha wouldn't even get any numbers he'd just be a random guy

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>>9662443
You must have missed the Holostars vs (mid-low) Niji males wars.

To be fair, it looked like it was just 2-4 people, but they were eating up 1/3rd of every thread, no matter what else was going on that day.

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>>9662734
You know damn well that was shitposting and it was perpetuated by our resident Astel schizo

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>>9662443
No one here actually watches him. People do watch Niji EN. Numberfagging about vtubers no one watches or cares about isn't hugely interesting. Might as well be discussing bilibili vtubers or Minecraft speedrunners or twitch livestreamers for all the relevance it has to anyone.

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>>9662781
It was pretty bad even by shitposting standards.
We kept changing the subject, starting new discussions about numbers, then they'd still continue as if nothing else was going on, just their personal pm chat.

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>>9662806
I used to catch him every few weeks, he's popular for good reason.
Since he got too big this summer though and especially became a 'big' topic here, i only see him as "BIG NUMBERS" unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9662806
corrections are made about him by people who watch him (or at least are familiar enough with him) they're just lost in the sea of kneelposts also people get tired of correcting trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9662806
>No one here actually watches him. People do watch Niji EN. Numberfagging about vtubers no one watches or cares about isn't hugely interesting
That’s most likely it.

[Anonymous No.]

>SEAniggers/holobronies are still not kneeling yet
NGMI

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine being Pekora, the numberfag whore right now:
>I'll go against the Pokemon tourney and Cover will help me with their view bots, I'll teach them a lesson
>get trashed by Kuzuha anyway
Know your place rabbit

[Anonymous No.]

>9663334
Are retards still unironically peddling the bot narrative?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9663334
Well, Hikakin's audience mostly match clips/videos rather than live streams.
Pekora should make more clips to develop different style.

[Anonymous No.]

stop replying to bait, retards, just report

[Anonymous No.]

This is what Pekora looks like when Cover's viewbot subscription runs off

[Anonymous No.]

pekora getting 65K and a ton of SC with a kusoge really rattled some people huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>9663753
Worst part is using a run of the mill regular ass stream averaging over 20k to prove some sort of point of low viewership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9663753
>some people

[Anonymous No.]

>>9663753
They are in ultimate seethe mode right now, can't imagine the level of cope there would be if she actually surpassed him by playing that garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9659074
>>9659238
It's relly funny when Kuzuha mogged the entire hololive and holobronies are too butthurt that they come back to compared the midget branch nijiEN with the ace branch holoEN kek

[Anonymous No.]

>this many posts in response to one (1) shitposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664292
If we didn't answer he would just samefag like he just did anyway, so who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664255
>garbage
Somehow the number is 3x higher than her non-botted Minecrap streams: >>9663607 Might want to admit to some crimes here, Cover? Botting streams just so you can compete with Niji on special events?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664382
Then no one has a right to complain about the state of this thread

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora is in a stride so hard she may have clocked north of 750,000 watched hours on Jump King alone.

For reference that would beat the whole bottom half of HoloID and approx tie Aki Rose for the whole watched hours they’ve got for 2021 till Aug 31.

An absolute monster

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664518
Yes! Yagoo should answer for the crime of raping your mom and putting you faggot in this world, which is probably why you're so obsessed with him and his retarded company schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664284
>midget branch nijiEN with the ace branch holoEN
Both NijiEN and HoloEN2 are midgets, and they’re comparable because both are for Western market; both EN.

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>>9664707
I don’t know anon, I genuinely don’t remember when was the last time any NijiEN streamer got 20k on a stream.
Did they ever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664760
I didn’t say NijiEN is doing better than HoloEN, I’m saying both are EN; focused on Western market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655534
Pekora singlehandedly mogged the niji tournament, she truly is the inheritor of the Niji Killer title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664707
This is your brain on Pekora numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664626
Nousagis surely love to see Pekora suffering, her biggest clips/streams are always the ones where she does something stupid and suffers because of it or does something smart but suffers anyway.

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>>9664815
>This is your brain on Pekora numbers
It’s a number thread. HoloEN2 hasn’t been as high in them as much lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664850
That's kind of her character gimmick. Or was. People tend to forget that because she sort of ruined it by being competent at Minecraft and playing it constantly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664788
>I didn’t say NijiEN is doing better than HoloEN
You said both are midgets. HoloEN2 consistently gets 20k. That’s not midget-like

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664817
endurance stream is a event fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664901
She suffers enough on Minecraft too

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664817
>blind holobrony not seeing Kuzuha above her
So this is the power of holobronery, it makes you immune to seeing things you don't like

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664906
>HoloEN2 consistently gets 20k
No they don’t. Where have you been? There is no consistency there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664707
wow, so holoEN is midget now, did Kuzuha mindbreak holobronies so hard that they need to take down their EN branch to fit the narrative? holycope

[Anonymous No.]

Here’s Pekora current stride. 36k peak for eating borgers was just rubbing salt

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664978
What do you define as midget? It’s subjective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664932
*an

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664991
Has Pekora played Undertale? She could probably replicate those numbers fighting the skeleton dude Kanata did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9660954
What happened to Met that made her mog everyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665089
Another APEX incline story, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9664974
>There is no consistency there.
Once a week since debut they got at least one 20k+ and more than one 15k+.
That’s consistent and most definitely not midget-like. There is absolutely no comparison between NijiEN and HoloEN2 with regards to numbers that would have both on the same category.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665135
I'm guessing it has to be. It can't be the Terraria stuff with Kanae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9660954
No Sugar Lyric?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665165
They're there bunched with HoneyStrap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665003
midget is under 3k views average, holostar is midget, nijiEN is midget simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>9660954

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665145
The debut buff is gone. They don’t consistently pull 20k.

Is Niji actually defending HoloEN2 by saying they consistently gets 20k live viewers in order to avoid comparisons to NijiEN? That’s still a comparison BTW, and it’s a crushing one.

Still though, EN2 is not consistently pulling 20k per stream. That’s laughable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665226
Oh, I'm blind.

>Rene in 2nd
EOPs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665237
It’s subjective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665287
No she has a dedicated JP fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665285
Only a handful of vtubers in the world consistently get 20k per stream. Gura, Pekora, Apex guy, and maybe Marine? Consistently being, lets say, 1/3rd of their streams hit that or go over?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665237
Holostars is more like amoeba

[Anonymous No.]

NijiJP vs HoloJP = competing for JP market
NijiEN vs HoloEN = competing for EN market

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665285
>The debut buff is gone.
No it's not

[Anonymous No.]

Currently 0 Holo or Niji streams unless you count Gwelu's "endurance", the top 3 vtubers being watched right now (on YT, cba to check Twitch) are all VSPOs, followed by Tomeru's Apex stream that's now been over a week and some ViViD who isn't Shirayuri Lily so who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665585
>EN2 debuff is not gone
It feels like Niji fans are arguing for two different things now. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. I’m not sure what is even being said anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665614
Grim, but at least uh......Owl SC reading in 30 minutes? That's something...

[Anonymous No.]

GuraMori KING avg. views/hr :
4M-5M : 11834.3195
Current, after 5M : 10214.4198
Seems like 9K-10K/hr will be the stable growth
Hope I don't jinx it.

[Anonymous No.]

>debut buff year

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665614
Pretty normal for a sunday 5am in Japan no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9666149
I mean it's the deadest hours of the week but no ENs streaming is surprising, it's a good time for Europe and NA. Also shows how VSPO streaming when no one else is really helps their current incline

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665843
They need to up their game, join some kpop fan clubs and learn their tricks.

[Anonymous No.]

What has confused me here, is that it’s pretty clear how these two points don’t go together at all:

1. It’s not fair for Holo fans to compare anything to NijiEN. HoloEN2 is doing too good to compare to NijiEN, as they consistently make 20k viewer streams.
2. HoloEN2 is doing so poorly and still on their debut buff, while NijiEN is still growing. NijiEN is the future for the Western market. EN2 cannot even pull 10k viewers as often anymore.

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>>9666765
You don't compare HOLOLIVE to small start ups. Everyone knows it's impossible to compete with hololive on youtube on the Western side due to algorithm and clipper bias and people who argue otherwise are holobronies being facetious on purpose. EN2 is doing bad compared to EN1, HoloJP, NijiJP and Vshojo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9667381
>NijiJP and Vshojo
Are you just arbitrarily comparing them against the top members of those groups? Because I'm pretty sure their averages actually compare favorably if you take everyone into account.

[Anonymous No.]

the baits in this thread are so weak lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>9667624
The thing, EN2 is not going to have a single member more popular than Ina, Nyanners or Ironmouse, so it's already a failure in that aspect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9667381
>EN2 is doing bad compared to EN1, HoloJP, NijiJP and Vshojo.
And NijiEN is doing badly compared to HoloEN2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9667922
>Nyanners or Ironmouse
>a single member
ClockGirl is in a good pace to finish September ahead of both

[Anonymous No.]

>>9667922
I just want consistency in the points Niji fans are making. Pick one, you don’t get both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668102
Niji fans do not post here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668037
NijiEN is a small start up without the algorithm and clippers on their side. Wait at least two or three years until youtube EOPs stop being holo-only plebs to make this comparison. Vshojo can compete with hololive because they're not bound by youtube's rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>BACK TO NUMBERS
TOP FUCKING KEK, Pekora is without shame
https://youtu.be/xtstzKRIyR8

She’s right tho, expanding her audience to women too is a way to improve her numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668394
>NijiEN is not doing as good as HoloEN2, so why compare?
All comparisons have winners and losers. It is the failure of NijiEN in claiming the Western market. If people prefer to watch HoloEN2, that is a victory of numbers for that market.
NijiJP vs HoloJP = competing for JP market
NijiEN vs HoloEN = competing for EN market

[Anonymous No.]

>>9667381
>>9668394
>small start up
Nijisanji is one of the biggest vtuber companies in the world. Small start up my ass. They can't compete because they suck. End of discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668557
Anon Nijisanji En is getting more popular day after day plenty of content creators that like holo such as walife drop them for Nijisanji. Once Nijisanji En get the male is game over for hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655534
40k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668456
Pekora talking about her stats. Interesting numbers there

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668733
Explains why those "Endurance til X Subscribers" streams keep working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668794
>>9668733
Isn't that stat pretty consistent across youtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668733
Compared to Western Youtubers that is a really fucking impressive stat, majority of non streamers report 80% or more

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668701
I have no problem with you, since you made the comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668703
That seems conservative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668703
I'd take the over. The hints that it's going to be 3d are building hype. I might look stupid in a few hours, but I'd bet it'll get closer to 80.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668557
>If people prefer to watch HoloEN2, that is a victory of numbers for that market
They don't. They prefer watching Vshojo. This is who you should be worried about right now, holobrony.

>>9668686
>Nijisanji is one of the biggest vtuber companies in the world
Only in Japan, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668686
So why do you think they suck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668701
>Nijisanji En is getting more popular day after day
In bizarro world maybe.

NijiEN
>August / July median views (JST)

>Selen 2,755 / 2,819 (-64)
>Pomu 2,131 / 2,461 (-330)
>Elira 2,029 / 2,382 (-353)
>Finana 1,817 / 1,609 (+208)
>Rosemi 1,375 / 2,123 (-748)
>Petra 1,360 / 2738 (-1,378)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668978
I was making the comparison to people preferring to watch HoloEN over NijiEN. If you would like to add in VShojo, you can. Doesn’t change what I said though.

[Anonymous No.]

One year Anniversary streams so far, predictions on Ame and Gura?

Ina
>$11,999
>221k views
Mori
>$29,061
>256k views
Kiara
>$24,119
>288k views

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669052
Then for the first nine days of September, some more backslide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668994
The numbers don't lie. They aren't drawing viewership because they aren't creative, can't create hype, can't create big events, nothing. They do nothing cool or exciting. They are glorified indie chuubas with no resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669183
>predictions on (…) Gura?
Given Gura allergy to numbers and money I predict some 25k for the CCV and under both Calli and Kiara in SC

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669183
Gura, I'd bet $20-22k supachats and 600k VOD views.
Watson, $10-15k supachats and 200k VOD views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669275
Gura is redoing the setlist from her famous original karaoke. Its gonna do huge numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669183
Gura will slot right in between Mori and Kiara, and Ame will settle around 18k (more than usual since she's had SCs off a lot recently and she's sick).

>>9669288
Ame will definitely get more than 200k VOD views. Consider the VOD views the anniversaries already have.

>Mori - 256k
>Ina - 221k
>Kiara - 288k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669260
Really? As far as I can tell they have mostly the same content as Cover, just without the whole idol thing. And aren't all of the tournaments big events?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669183
Gura 39k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669260
So you admit Vshojo is more talented and creative than EN2 then?

[Anonymous No.]

Will this be a single POV on Aqua’s channel? If so there is potential here for some 50k, easy peasy

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669492
But VShojo doesn’t have either their median or their average above EN2, even if they was what being said by that anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669344
You are literally retarded.
Gura will be below Kiara and Mori for SC.
Ame will be closer to Ina than to Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669492
Not same anon, but I believe EN2 is overall ahead of VShojo in numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669590
We'll see, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669627
Gura doesn't have a real anniversary stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669574
>>9669594
No one there is going to have better numbers than Ironmouse or Nyanners after their debut buff is over. Those two are already comparable to Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669594
Are you sure about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668852
well, I think if your main content is streaming your viewers have more incentive to subbscribe. Do we have these numbers for western streamers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669660
She's doing a seperate special karaoke but she's also doing an anniversary party stream, revisiting her first games (Maneater and TABS)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669675
Wait and find out. For now: EN2 > VShojo > NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

Or better yet: EN > EN2 > VShojo > NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669675
>after their debut buff
Wut? Anyway, aren’t you comparing branches? If so it’s VShojo average vs. EN2 average, not picking and choosing streamers.

This is the numbers thread tho, not the gypsy curses and fortune telling so, in this very moment, EN2 numbers are way ahead of Vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669724
Her TABS stream was a blast. Like Botan, she could play that more often

[Anonymous No.]

>debut buff 3 months

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669947
In a better world she'd also be able to play MuseDash on her anniversary stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669675
great, more retards trying to compare twitch's raw ccv against youtube's, who is filtered over every little thing. But of course the trolls won't try to compare total views instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668994
They put tittle in Japanese and pulling holoID numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669660
An anniversary stream is whatever the streamer wants to do to celebrate, dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669888
>in this very moment, EN2 numbers are way ahead of Vshojo
Have you seen the clock tranny's recent numbers bro? Assuming xhe is going to be the most popular member. It's not much higher than Nyanners, Ironmouse or even Veibae. I'm too lazy to pick their streams to compare but have these links:
https://www.twitchmetrics.net/c/175831187-ironmouse/streams
https://www.twitchmetrics.net/c/97245742-veibae/streams
https://www.twitchmetrics.net/c/97245742-veibae/streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670077
Not so terrible by Petra standards. I quite like her, but it seems that most people find her boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670033
I can only imagine how hard the US based team must have seethe about the zhang distributors that pulled the plug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670077
I don't really understand how this relates to Nijisanji as a whole sucking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670152
>It's not much higher
I can only assume this is an admission that it is, indeed, at this moment, higher.

You seem very passionate and personally invested in the idea of EN2 losing to someone, anyone. At this moment, in the EN market, they are only to EN1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670152
Comparing yt to Twitch is already kinda stupid but using peak is doubly so given raids etc. Sometimes I wish a couple Holos would switch to Twitch for more than one off streams so we can start to get some comparisons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670152
here you go dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670236
NTA but why would you completely refuse speculating about future viewership and trends in a numbers thread? Isn't that part of the point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670313
>Isn't that part of the point?
Not when the point that anon is making is:
>X will recline in the future in relation to Y, hence right now Y > X
That’s a dumb argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670298
>>9670152
>3k peak
there's a reason Vshojo doesnt want to livestream on youtube, despite getting similar total views to their twitch vods - because the spambot filters heavily fucks their ccv up, like with everybody else

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670592
ops forgot the picture
https://playboard.co/en/video/zSzeNHYrbpE

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670298
Is this chumbrony cope or something? Twitch doesn't have a VOD watching culture unlike youtube and three of those have the same amount of views as Veibae's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670664
>you can't compare ccv because of raid on twitch and no you can't compare vod views either

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670592
>3k peak
????
For Nyanners? Where are you seeing that?
https://twitchtracker.com/nyanners/streams/39947370635
She's been getting 6k average, almost 7k peak in a very consistent September.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670664
NTA, but were you dropped on your head as a baby by chance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670664
>7 hours long VOD
Seems a little on the low side of numbers too, compared for instance with OwlGirl

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670186
Muse Dash Devs didn't hesitate to throw all the blame on their publisher X.D Network.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670636
Ah, Ok, got it.
Not comparably the same thing. It's streaming off your main platform.
Like Miko streaming on Twitch. Good numbers first stream but fell off after the novelty wore off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670664
>comparing 6-7hours streams vs 2-3 hours streams
but let me help you and get you a shorter stream from her, anon - 87k views (7,6k twitch ccv)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670813
Twitch raids are no different from the box pushing/view funneling shit that hololive does. Just look at averages. Nyanners, Ironmouse and Veibae's average viewers are around what Ina and Ame usually get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9671024
>Twitch raids are no different from the box pushing/view funneling shit that hololive does
Objectively wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670664
We're pretending to be retarded? Let me join in!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670033
In a better world she'd be playing Relfect on Muse dash

[Anonymous No.]

>>9671024
>view funneling shit
kek, it’s (you)! Sorry anon, you and I are through here, you literally accused Cover of paging Subaru and telling her to stop her stream so Pekora could reach some number. That’s not healthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670664
>gura wasn't even mentioned in the whole discussion
>chumbrony
rent free lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670919
>>9670636
we can even compare Vshojo x Vshojo
>Ironmouse Youtube: 3:08 length, 3.1k ccv, 98k views
>Veibae Twitch: 3:38 length, 7.6k ccv, 88k views

[Anonymous No.]

>>9670190
En branch failed and Kuzeha is the only liver in Nijisanji who is constant in his numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9671024
>Nyanners, Ironmouse and Veibae's average viewers are around what Ina and Ame usually get.
Ina average for the month of August was 9.4K mate. Highest VShojo didn’t break 8.1k

Vshojo top streamers are in good shape tho, but the branch as a whole trails even EN2

[Anonymous No.]

>>9665046
Only neutral pacifist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668394
>Wait at least two or three years
Vtubers will not last that long

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora should do the Jump King DLCs, and as the numberfag she is, I'm sure she will. If she keeps inclining like this she might reach her goal of 1st female streamer in the world in a year or two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9671693
That's some serious doomposting anon, and I seriously doubt that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669052

I can only speak for Pomu since she's the only one I watch. Finana is probably a bit better growth while elira is worse.

NijiEN is indeed growing
Looking at Pomu's numbers in her first two weeks with debut buff

>(5/14 - 5/29) # Streams: 13/ Average: 2004 / Median: 2027

Compared to the next two weeks with no more debut buff
>(5-29-6/11) # Streams: 15/ Average: 1655/ Median: 1483

As you can see thanks to your numbers, August Pomu after dropping a bit is at her debut week power. This is a pretty good sign of growth. The steady viewer numbers have replaced the tourists. The drop in august can probably just be explained by the amount of overlap with Niji gen2.

Speaking of which, Niji Gen2 isn't really worth discussing yet because their july numbers are essentially their first two week debut buff since Obysidia debuted right in the middle of July.
Comparing the first 2 weeks with the following 4 weeks is always going to look grim especially since Lazulight has built up a decent following giving Ngen2 has a bigger debut buff than what lazu got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9671053
That's pretty low in relation to his CCV. The only way to properly compare twitch VODs to youtube VODs is right when the stream ends since twitch VODs don't get recommended to anyone and people usually don't bother watching them given the nature of the platform.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9671440
Sorry if I came across unclear, I was asking for an explanaition why they do so bad. I don't give a fuck what petra gurins CCV number is

[Anonymous No.]

>>9671843
You saw this: >>9669230? They all walked even more backwards in September. That’s also part of the proof of growth?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9671843
>(5/14 - 5/29) # Streams: 13/ Average: 2004 / Median: 2027
Compared to:
>(5-29-6/11) # Streams: 15/ Average: 1655/ Median: 1483
>This is a pretty good sign of growth
Huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672011
NijiEN is growing, it's just that none of the numbers show it

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668703
30k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668703
45-50k min, it looks like they're going to all be using 'smol' 3d models based off of what they've been hinting at on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672188
10.7k in the waiting room with about 30 minutes left. Anybody have any numbers on waiting room counts for previous big streams? Would be interesting to try to find a correlation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9668703
it won't reach 30k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672011
September has cut everyone's numbers

>>9672079
Lost tourists. The numbers recover/growth in July/august which is the point of showing that they indeed grew.

[Anonymous No.]

mousey on youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>9669230
>>9672011
Elira seems to have lost her holotourist viewers to EN2, but the others aren't too different. It's just game choice + overlaps hurting their numbers. Petra hit higher numbers than usual recently, Rosemi is getting her usual viewership, Finana is getting her usual viewership, etc, Pomu affected by game choices, time zones and overlaps, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672272
It's already more than a third of the way there. Bad prediction skills, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672394
September has cut everyone's numbers except Kuzuha and Pekora*
>>9672405
Might be a stupid question, but why do Hololive sabotage themselves by streaming on YouTube again? Or Niji for that matter? Is Twitch not as big in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672490
It is not.
The major Livestreaming platform in Japan is Youtube. At this point, attempting to switch would be such a massive pain due to entrenched memberships + members only content + Vods and the like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672490
they don't care about ccv, that number won't make them any money. But the youtube ads pay much more for each view.
Idk about memberships and sc, they are probably the same in both platforms, but arguably their discoverability in youtube is much higher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672011
These are numbers from a fucking first week of September. If we take other 3 September days - 10'th, 11'th and 12'th, the numbers get much better, because they had streams that are above current median of 9 first days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672673
>they don't care about ccv
by this I meant they dont care what number the ccv shows, as long as they get a lot of views in the end of the day - and they do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672490
Most of the Japanese community on Twitch is mostly there for competitive shooter streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9671957
You asking why they do so bad in number thread then get answered with number and you don't care about their number?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672490
>sabotage themselves by streaming on YouTube
???
ironmouse gets the same amount of vod views in youtube or twitch, youtube just doesnt want to show them in the "live counter" itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>9655534
Ars mogging Gura. That's a rare sight. Chumbronies rekt.

[Anonymous No.]

>Unarchived karaoke
>Three more times more likes than viewers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EFEdt75A58

[Anonymous No.]

Mumei finished the tutorial

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672272
it will

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672272
>22k waiting

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674287
>>9674214
Youtube will cut all the bots out when stream starts, back to half

[Anonymous No.]

>>9656772
Lion wife inclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674172
I feel so bad for Sana every single time I see this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674566
Go feel bad about the more talented indies being below 10k subs instead of a nepotism hire being right where she belongs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674431
Stop embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674431
So you have no idea how youtube works?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674652
No I won't, hololive > 2view indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674566
I think she may be close to second after Kronii in SC for Gen2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674893
>hololive > 2view indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672272
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674431
>down to 15k LOL
I fucking nailed it, where are the holobronys now

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674953
HoloEN Gen 2 - Surperchat

Kronii $ 61k
>First SC Stream $ 45.4k
>Stories Untold $ 6k
>Frostpunk #3 $ 4.1k
>Hollow night #3 $5.5k

Fauna $ 25.6k
>First SC stream $ 17.7k
>Plug & Play $ 1.7k
>Jackbox $ 0.5k
>Summertime ASMR $ 1.9k
>Minecraft $ 0.8k
>Spore $1.4k
>Mario Kart $1.6k

Mumei $ 27.9k
>First SC stream $ 20.9k
>Minecraft $ 3.2k
>Passpaetout $ 1.3k
>Mad-lib $ 1.1k
>Council $ 0.9k
>SC reading $ 0.5k

Baelz $ 18.2k
>First SC stream $ 14.8k
>Mario kart $ 1k
>Kill it $ 0.8
>West of loathing $ 0.6k
>Bayonetta $ 0.4k
>Madmax $ 0.6k

Sana $ 27.3k
>Fist SC stream $ 19.5k
>Celeste $ 1.5k
>Minecraft $ 0.7k
>Drawing $ 2k
>Holoscopes $ 0.8k
>WarioWere $ 2k
>Minecraft $ 0.8k

After the first SC stream
Kronii $ 15.6k
Fauna $ 7.9k
Sana $ 7.8k
Mumei $ 7k
Baelz $ 3.4k

[Anonymous No.]

>9675440
Hold on, lemme fire up my botfarm and fix that rq.
YT just starts a 'recount' whenever the stream starts is all, and also starts applying their view-filtering to the CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9675241
>>9675440

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672272
>>9674431
>>9675440
Please educate yourself on how youtube works and stop embarrasing yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>9675440
Anon it's already at 30K again and the stream didn't even start yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672272
>>9674431
>>9675440
>>9675557

[Anonymous No.]

>>9674143
>EN starts
>Tenth of viewers disappear
lol

[Anonymous No.]

Today's superchats

[Anonymous No.]

50K cleared

[Anonymous No.]

50k faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>9677669
Fucking Luto again jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

>>9675440
50000 now, not that you are blind

[Anonymous No.]

This is doing so well that even numberfags are watching

[Anonymous No.]

>>9675440
>>9674431
>>9672272

We should have an "Idiot of the thread" award specifically to laugh at retards like this little retard right here

[Anonymous No.]

>>9677933
https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-view-counter/bZghtnL3y3k
i love looking at youtube queues shitting the bed

[Anonymous No.]

>RETARD OF THE DAY AWARD goes to...
>9672272

[Anonymous No.]

>>9677669
koinoya mai still relevant after her taiwan yab huh.
Guess her taiwan gachis didn't matter after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9677933
Since when was a 3D debut of 5 1million+ subs livers barely hitting 50k is doing well? 100k should be the lowest bar.

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN numbers (for now)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9678225
>3D debut
this is like saying the outfits for aprils fools day were telling of numbers for a new outfit reveal stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>9675440
>>9675557
oh no no no no no no you aren't getting away that easily

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672272
>>9674431
>>9675440
>>9675557
>tries deleting all his posts
>half of them are probably too old to be deleted by now

[Anonymous No.]

>>9672272
>>9674431
>>9675440
>>9675557
Yep, looks like we've got our idiot of the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>9678225
>3d debut
Really anonchama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9678225
Obviously it's not the official 3D debut, but I'm still a little surprised at the 50K admittedly. Maybe I highballed my estimate too much?

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like these posts where people lowball are falseflags by holobronies. It can hit even 90k and it still won't be an impressive number, because it will still be lower than any outfit reveal they did before. It's all of them in 3D for the first time + anniversary buff, fuck's sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>it won’t reach 30k
>oh shit, uhh… it must be over 100k to not be a failure

[Anonymous No.]

>>9678225
You gotta be a retard to compare this with an official debut lmao. Did this meme of a 3D trigger you perhaps

[Anonymous No.]

>>9679223
Welcome to the reality of all the Nijifag predictions that you probably replied the same way to

[Anonymous No.]

>>9679223
I get that feeling. They were even this thing for weeks. It's pathetically low.

[Anonymous No.]

They should do this at gura channel. The numbers could be higher.

[Anonymous No.]

>samefagging now
lmao, idiot of the thread, just stop.. im ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>9678225
>3D debut
HAHAHAHAHAAHAH
Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't tell me you guys thought they were still as popular as they were when their costumes dropped? It's been a year, of course things have settled. 55K is still miles ahead of anything any other gen in Hololive can get. And don't get me started on Nijisanji...

[Anonymous No.]

>Anon makes obvious bait claiming scuffed SOUL 3d smol models is proper 3d
>Anons bite the bait and also samefag the bait post
C'mon anons, I thought you were better than this.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe it isn't even hitting 60k. It is a anniversary collab. 1 million subs for fuck's sake. These numbers are pathetic. Flare's 3D live got more than this and she had Patra's "singing" on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680170
Hey my wife isn't that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>HoloEN passed the Gwelu line
I kneel...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680068
You and the other anons really need to start ignoring the shitposters. You're not getting anywhere responding to them since they're disingenuous fucks.
Just enjoy the stream and the big numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680170
you nijiniggers are so funny I can't stop laughing reading this thread

[Anonymous No.]

If they can't get past 69k, it's a failure for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680170
>60k now
there you go

[Anonymous No.]

>>9679784
This, chumbuds are known to skip collabs

[Anonymous No.]

It’s mostly that one anon. The moment anyone criticizes NijiEN, he goes completely mad. Even using VShojo to attack HoloEN if he deems it necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680620
Dude, I don't think you understand the scale of underwhelming this is. It should be an order of magnitude higher.

[Anonymous No.]

>if they can't get past 1 million live viewers it's a failure, together they have much more than a million subs

[Anonymous No.]

Are these glitches common on VRs? it's fucking hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680966
So what you're saying is we should shit on NijiEN more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680977
It's an anniversary 5 person collab on during primetime. It's disgraceful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9681029
>Are these glitches common on VRs
yes, I was expecting it to be much worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680966
I regret jokingly posting about NijiEN in response to the pomuposter at the start of the thread. Completely rendered the thread useless for a bit as several anons were so deeply offended as to go crazy over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680966
rentfree kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9680970
Moving goalposts is retarded. Since you asked for 60k and it's delivered so shut up already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9681034
That just creates more of a cycle of hate. Was just pointing out the cause.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9681034
just post this anon

>HoloEN Top 10 highest concurrent live views (holostats)
21/05/07 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
21/05/03 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
20/11/13 119,493 Gura 2nd karaoke stream
21/05/07 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
21/08/23 92,998 Hakos Hololive debut
21/08/23 94,966 Kronii Hololive debut
21/08/23 94,206 Fauna Hololive debut
21/08/23 93,128 Mumei Hololive debut
21/07/11 91,280 Irys Hololive debut
21/05/06 90,965 Ina Costume reveal

>NijiEN Top 10 highest concurrent live views (nijimado+vnuma)
21/07/18 15,263 Petra Nijisanji debut
21/05/16 14,859 Elira Nijisanji debut
21/07/18 14,220 Selen Nijisanji debut
21/05/16 12,431 Pomu Nijisanji debut
21/07/18 12,354 Rosemi Nijisanji debut
21/05/16 9,317 Finana Nijisanji debut
21/05/25 5,986 Elira 1st Genshin stream
21/07/20 5,772 Selen 1st Apex stream
21/08/17 5,713 Pomu Return stream
21/06/27 5,448 Pomu God Knows 100+1 challenge

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>>9681172
>I regret jokingly posting about NijiEN in response to the pomuposter at the start of the thread. Completely rendered the thread useless for a bit
Yeah that’s what did it.

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>>9681029
There is a reason Cover prefers to do these stuff in the studio, and it's not just because they like throwing piles of money into the fire

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>>9681267
I said that 100k is the lowest bar. 60k is just describing how low the situation truly is. This is bad, awful even, from a numbers prospective.

>>9680485
>nijiniggers
I like hololive

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>>9681029
VR tracking with vive can be Jank AF, especially when the models aren't 1:1 with your actual body proportions and clipping abounds.
Frankly its enduring in how silly it is, and completely fitting for the smol models.

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I guess they saving gura for the last song.

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>>9681743
Watson knows chumbuds are only there for Gura

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>HoloEN hitting 60K on their anniversary is considered good
>Next year HoloEN2 hitting 40K will be considered great

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>Kiara starts singing
>Count starts dropping immediately
Fucking kek.

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>kiara song
>numbers drop
LOL

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So much NijiCOPE in this thread. Its kind of hilarious.

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What if I laugh at both Nijisanji and Hololive getting shit numbers?

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Now when dust is settled can it be said that holoEn2 and nijiEn are of a similar quality and numbers difference is purely due to brand strength?

With this we can calculate that hololive is around 5-7 times more popular at the west

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>>9682167
You can't

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>>9682167
>What if I laugh at both Nijisanji and Hololive getting shit numbers?
As long as it’s not about Pomu and NijiEN in general, I assume the thread won’t get as crazy.

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>>9682458
Why aren't they showing up for her anniversary?

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>>9682672
>Don't laugh at the nijis it'll trigger the schizo
No.

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>>9680977
>not beating King Pokemon numbers

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HoloEN first wave can't even beat Pekora playing some regular shit game lol, they are done for

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>>9682621
>Don't laugh at the nijis it'll trigger the schizo
No.

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>>9682807
Imagine your anniversary getting mogged by a niji WOMAN 3D that nobody outside of Japan knows or cares about.

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>>9682621
>Don't laugh at the nijis it'll trigger the schizo
No.

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Is this all "glorious" HoloEN has to offer?

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Please can the thread fall off faster

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At least we know that the Pomu-poster only uses Kuzuha for numbers, while actually caring much, much more about NijiEN. I know I know, no one watches Kuzuha.

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>>9683136
>Japan
>niji vtuber
>3D
are you new here?

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schizochama you'd be having a much better time if you were watching Gura singing rn instead of posting dumb bait on this thread

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>>9683485
Did you miss the days of western fans saying EN vtubers would outperform their JP counterparts due to their higher population?

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>>9682972
I can't believe Pekora got 65k playing shitty game, when will niji even reach that much

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>>9682972
They just did, what's your next goal post?

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>>9683821
well I'm not one of those people kek

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ips in this thread are unusually high whenever niji has an event (3d debut, tournament, etc) I wonder why

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>>9682972

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>>9679223
Well, Kuzuha mindbreak them that they would look silly if they don't get high number, better safe than sorry

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>>9684790
Learn english before posting, ESL-chama.

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>HoloEn vr chat aniversary
>Pekora endurance
i ll always be impressed with holo playing at the same level than a 10 person collab tournament doing random shit

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>>9680068
>And don't get me started on Nijisanji
what about niji? share your thought with class now Bob

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>>9684932
cope, where are those 190k in her outfit stream?

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>69k
>Pekora beaten
>Tournament beaten
anything else?

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>>9684632
muh serkit club

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>68,729
They beat Kuzuha's Pokemon Unite peak from yesterday in the final seconds of the grand finals. What's the next goal post?

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king...

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>new outfits
THE NUMBERSSSSSSS

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>new outfit
200k+ incoming lmao

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New outfit reveal! Time for NUMBERS

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Oh gods, a new set of HoloEN1 outfits.

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>>9685012
>vr chat
No one was expecting this

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Another outfit before official 3D...

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if Gura hype this correctly, then rip niji

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BRACE FOR NUMBERS

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70K

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>>9685962
her missing formula these days is posting on her community tab, that's how she farmed extra numbers

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>70,276
Thank god, my OCD would've been triggered if it peaked at 69k.

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>>9685962
Gura mogging niji twice jesas

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I just took the L on the anniversary doing shit numbers by EN's standards and I'm still enjoying the stream.

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>>9685518
>>9685563
Refer to: >>9679223 it's yesterday's number so it doesn't matter. Beat the Kiara outfit reveal number first.

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>five person collab with total 10 million subs
>barely beating people with 1 milion sub in their solo stream
do ENfags really?

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>>9685939
Seeing that JP just extended their state of emergency, HoloEN (and possibly ID too)'s 3Ds are probably going to take quite a bit longer

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>>9686404
>it's yesterday's number
ah, I knew you were from SEA lmao

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Well they had to stack three special events in one stream but they finally beat Peko

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if these 3DVR had less glitches than what you would normally witness, is there significance with the rig itself or the device helped stabilize it?

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>>9686404
Are you going to eat shit when they get 100k+ in their inevitable 3D debuts?
Gen 5 had members that broke 100k so there's no reason to expect HoloMyth won't.

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>>9686444
goalpost moved again, do you haver another one

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You guys see the numbers here and you still think they'll hit their peaks from the old outfit reveals?

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>>9686820
Just pray chumbuds actually show up and they'll cross 100K easily.

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>>9686974
they probably will not be streaming in ame's channel with ame's models, so who knows

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>>9686974
depends on the time. October-DEC is an excellent time for new events and holo and youtube views are up that time.
what was the peak of Holomyth half aniversary where they revealed walfie avatars?

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>>9686044
RIP nijis baseball number.. again

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I think this just shows how small the EN audience is compared to JP, anyone have a record for the top streams from EN vtubers? I remember Gura's outfit reveal was 190k, though it makes me also wonder how many of that included JP viewers who tuned in, what are the other peaks of EN vtubers?

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>>9687491
>what was the peak of Holomyth half aniversary where they revealed walfie avatars?
55k
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JgW-7lHQBZw

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>>9687808
cant really say this is an end of all indicator but depending on the date and hype of it. They can achive at least the same peak.

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I don't expect a second outfit to break numbers, people want 3D, I want 3D and Gura to sing in 3D with her customized area

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>>9686974
No. Gura can probably get 100k

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>>9688007
Well obviously joke costumes aren't going to get the same numbers as an official outfit.
I'm not going to bet my life on Gura getting 190k again, but they're going to get good numbers for sure.

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>>9688614
i mean comparng the joke costumes to this joke 3d.
is hard to tell, dpeends on the hype behind it and the dates.

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>>9688614
IMO it heavily depends on the order of the reveals and the exact theme.
If its something truly amazing and Gura goes last, she could easily get 120k+, maybe more. This is the 2nd costume, so it doesn't have QUITE as big of a buff as '1st costume' does.

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So finally proper 3d models for holo en? It feels like they are completely on their own when it comes to event streams. Why Cover is like this

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>>9690241
Zhangs unleashed covid
Zhangs deleted coco

Don't be a retard

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>>9690241
Wuflu

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HOLOLIVE LOVE

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Holy shit, they did all of this without any support from Cover and numberfags are still complaining

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I like Nijisanji

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Alright back to numbers, did anyone get the peak?

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Japan loves HoloEN

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>>9691862
I like them too and I think this stream was cute. Possibly will be better than a Holo 3D debut

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>>9693421
71k

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>>9693421
70.7k peak
59.5k avg

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A Kiara from 4 months ago is stronger than 5 holoEN members in 3D celebrating their anniversary.

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>>9693421