Are vtubers right to clamp down on clipfags?

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/Cimrai/status/1436306174899523588

Are there any clippers out there anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

holy wall of text, I ain't reading all that shit nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Almost all of the success of Hololive and vtubing is thanks to clippers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
(Decent clippers that is.)

AKA not the obvious viewbotters like the Snuffy account on YouTube, or those that only care about clipping the select few who already have more than enough clips out there. Like those who only give a toss about vshitshow or saruei or the other orbiters?

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/snuffyowo/status/1436461375065399317

[Anonymous No.]

Does this bitch actually stream or she just likes to bitch about things?

[Anonymous No.]

mucho texto

[Anonymous No.]

posting vtweeter bullshit should be a bannable offense

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
opinion disregarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
>ADHD/ASD
holy kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
honestly I couldnt believe that it was common practice for clippers to have monetized channels shit is crazy to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Literally who though

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
>Long wall of text written by an actual autism tranny
Is xir a /here/ chuuba????

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
tl;dr it is to ask the person you're clipping, not to take shit out of context and make misleading clips, and to not act like the vtuber owes their success to clippers. Seems pretty agreeable and just about every decent clippers does that, shame its a queer 2view fag saying it

>>9555696
And this is the kind of faggot that shitstain clippers bring, as well as supporting leeches like s*dafunk

[Anonymous No.]

clippers and clip watchers getting uppity lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556138
you've never watched a twitch stream then

[Anonymous No.]

clippers are fine if they dont clickbait or monetize their clips
so basically no clippers are good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
>LGBTQIA2S5GAIDS+
>ADHD/ASD/retardation
>0 view
the holy trinity of worthless opinion

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556437
same shit with r/hololive keep bitching about low quality clipper but can't stop people from watching them, Cover didn't do shit other than "oof, you got blacklisted" and that's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556306
He's right though. How do you think half the fags on this board got into Hololive in the first place when they can't speak any Japanese. Holo EN would've been like ID if clippers hadn't already primed the market

[Anonymous No.]

The worst one is this fucker:
https://twitter.com/EngVTubersOOC

Only cares about certain vtubers and hasn't even done any of holo EN2 because they'd rather post more of TTS and veibae.

This account is a known viewbotter:
https://www.youtube.com/c/DailyDoseofSnuffy

There is no way a lot of these views are legitimate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556599
averaging 5-6k viewers is pretty good for small indie 2view though, pandering to trannies and faggots doesn't mean total flops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
Could a gringo be nice and please, decipher what those runes mean? thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556744
>averaging 5-6k viewers
You're off by a little bit.
She does get good numbers for an indie, but not as much as she paid for.

[Anonymous No.]

>ENVtuber, 18+, Mistress of the Dark Maze. Twitch Partner. ADHD/ASD, LGBTQIA2S+

[Anonymous No.]

What's even the point of clipping English vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557155
highlights obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Western indie ENvtuber are the absolute worst

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556744
>pandering to trannies
Are you ok anon? You might be lost around here

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556480
are twitch clips even monetized
they're literally on the creators page not some separate channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
This is the bitch who hates lolis by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557599
Yet nyanners gets clipped all the time and also hates lolis....despite portraying a loli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
Gee cimrai, how come you get TWO mental illnesses which are on entirely different spectrums?
ASD/ADHD comorbidity should be pretty rare, especially in women.
Well, vtweeter gone full retard, more news at 11

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557554
Like 90% of VShoujo content is them watching clips and periodically making funny noises about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Clipping is a full-on editing job, especially if they have to translate and sub them.

Is a job they should be hired to do and be paid, given how popular they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557673
I just hate faggots like her who try to morally police everyone. I'm glad the bitch got molested as a child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556821
Un mucho maricon

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557554
twitch vtubers do a lot of "reaction" content

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
it's the speed clipfags that are a problem apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557744
Or you can just swipe clips viewers made with twitch's clipping feature and upload them to your youtube channel to rake in thousands of views for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557943
Thanks, I will do this now.

Do you know if I can monetize them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556138
It's how they get incentivized to keep clipping. It's actually a good system, since it's "free advertising" for the stream. The problem is, as the picture says, when it misrepresents the streamer since clippers love to clickbait in order to get more clicks. Some clippers also get egos over their own "work" which is hilarious to me, but that's rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557744
>download vod
>crop with windows movie maker
>slap on some funny words
>upload
i am doing lord's work

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557974
Of course you can't but people still do it anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557974
Just add subs. It helps if you're multilingual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557981
>but that's rare.
not rare enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556821
It means they have several mental illnesses and are suicidal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557799
Maricón con déficit atencional.
But what about the whole string of random letters put together. What do they mean!? isn't ASD a break system that keeps the handlebar from locking?

[sage. No.]

>>9555637
>>9555937
>ADHD/ASD, LGBTQIA2S+
Why the fuck is this thread still up again? Sage on all fields

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558352
>announcing

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555835
>vtubers are just lazily reacting over a game's content
>this is somehow more respectable than compiling 6 hours of a stream into less than 5 minutes for an easily watchable clip
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Clippers are the reason streaming (which vtubers are basically a niche of nowadays) is what it is nowadays, some retard vtubers won't change that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Every streamer I follow I know from clips, or clips of their co-workers like hololive, with one exception who I followed before streaming was even a thing. Thing is, most non-VTuber streamers I know do their own clips and highlights. Every VTuber complaining about clips needs to shut up and make their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
you can guess most of those things from the tone of the whiny rant she posted, but thanks for confirming

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558450
more like they split up a 6 hour stream into several different parts and monetized each of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555835
Is she against people making accurate titles for the clips?

It isn't the clipper's fault she is a whore.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a member of a translation group that uploads vtuber clips to youtube. Each clip we work on goes through 5 or more people. I guarantee that every single one of those people puts more work into what they do than this whiny vtweeter bitch, and we aren't even being paid; we just like throwing the EOPs a bone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555835
She's been going off on clippers today.
https://twitter.com/snuffyowo/status/1436456994702073874

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555837
Being a Vtweeter is a hard job :(
and if you're too stupid to realize it I'm being sarcastic

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555835
>>9558932
whom

[Anonymous No.]

Asking for permission to clip is fucking retarded.
What if the vtuber doesn't reply, as is almost certainly the case with any visible vtubers like hololive? What if they are silent? The idiot just glossed over the scenario by saying "they don't need your help." That is a blanket assumption of a vtuber's intention. And clippers are not here just to "help". They may do it for fun, or flex their video editing skills, or, heaven forbid, because they just enjoy a hobby. Most clippers aren't gonna pay the bills with it anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558932
She should have done something about that viewbotter clip account on YouTube a long time ago.

But at the same time, Snuffy lapped it up, and used the clips to get more people and ride the vshitshow dick more too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558889
They're not talking about you, m8. They're talking about the ones who grab the clips straight off twitch's clipping feature and upload them unedited. Once YouTube expands its own clipping, you'll be seeing a lot more of that too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556306
Hi Cimrai, we don't listen to subhumans here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9559225
Even when it is low effort, if it captures the highlight of a stream I won't have time to watch in full, that is still a good clip which saved me time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9559476
about that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
I thought you could only be one of the alphabet letters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558932
Dunno who she is but generally I agree, especially the 100k+ sub verified fuckers who upload shit 3 minutes after the stream ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9559552
She was shitting on stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557864
Why would a vtuber's channel be banned or lose monetization "authority" (whatever that means) because of a clipper?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560356
Youtube's retarded AI has a chance of striking the streamer if a clipper uploads before the stream ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560356
Because Youtube is a retarded when it comes to how it treat upload for streams vs. videos. So a speedclipper uploading something from a stream before it ends can be seen as the "original" upload because the stream is still going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9559027
Remember the number one rule of corporate dealings: if it's not in a contract, silence is consent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560239
>says she has to go take a shit
>says in the background that she's going to take a shit in the other bathroom so stream can be grossed out
>actual shit sounds
>comes back to "vtubers r us" in her chat cooming over the clip he can make

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny how we've had vtubing for years in japan and clipping only becomes a problem when westerners get involved. Fuck off Snuffy, you only exist because of clippers. Show some fucking respect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560567
uh huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560611
She had a problem with people taking shit out of context, not people clipping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560654
What do you think clippers are doing you retard?
Japanese clippers are as bad as western and SEA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
>LGBTQIA2S+
What does the 2S even stand for? I unfortunately know the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560419
>>9560468
Wtf, I remember reading about something like that a few months ago, but I thought it was a meme?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560770
2 souls in 1 body

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
>LGBTQIA2S+
>look into what the "2S" means
>it basically refers to the little boys in ye olde pederasty relationships
Holy kek how is this real

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560775
No, Youtube is just that retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560811
Alrighty then

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560811
So being Schizo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560775
Nope, several vtubers got demonetized because of that. It gets resolved quickly if they're big enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560356
>>9560775
If the clipfag is that much of an asshole, they can claim the original stream because Youtube think their clip is the original.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556744
It does on 4chan because we don't like them

[Anonymous No.]

>>9561189
Doing anything involving copyright means you doxx yourself unless you have a lawyer doing things on your behalf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560903
>>9561152
>>9561189
amazing, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560912
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-spirit
nvm it apparently means "gay indian"
>>9561060
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555696
Unironically this. The bulk of hololive's western audience came from Fubuki and Miko clips. Throwing that away isn't just shooting yourself in the foot, it's blowing your foot up with dynamite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Mucho texto

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
clippers that clickbait or use inappropriate thumbnails are the worst scum
ENclippers for jp audiences are good and on point with the moments they clipped

that's what i learned from my experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>9561189
why doesn't youtube take down clips if they get uploaded afterwards

[Anonymous No.]

>name pronunciation guide in sig after WORDS WORDS WORDS
>see this >>9555937
wow i'm shocked

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care that much about clipper but I don't understand how they are allowed to monetize their channels. Especially those who just reupload shit as-is instead of doing a bit of creative editing or adding subtitles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9561541
Depends whether or not the chuuba decides to take action, otherwise clip stays up.

[Anonymous No.]

>clip short soundbites from a vtuber's stream
>don't even edit, just add subtitles maybe
>monetize off others' work
>brag about their massive growth and talent on twitter
yeah okay. the one who started the drama credited himself for raising several indie vtubers to fame on his own when all he did was take a couple of clips with zero edits and zero credit. fuck clippers.

[Anonymous No.]

JP clippers are doing actual work. They are fans in JP, and help deliver their knowledge and translation to EN bros, because we simply cannot watch without them.

EN clippers are content thieves, robbing the og creators of all the energy they siphon away from them in viewership for their channels.

Aiko is lazy bitch. Same with Soda. The only work being done is stealing content they watched, and selling the best bits on their channel. Being a fan in english is not hard.

This work can easily be done by the main channels, and Hololive knows that they need to capatalize on pushing out clippers and doing the work. I wonder if hololive will either hire people, such as the lazy bitches who do it currently to do this, or make the girls do it themselves.

Kowkarot does JP clipper level work, by making documentaries and clipping various streams, having in-depth knowledge of collabs and past stream knowledge, to make a full indepth documentary of events or stories in holoEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555696
>>9561477
those clippers actually put in work to edit, translate, and summarize. the ones starting the drama are clippers like Vtubers R Us who don't do anything but take a short segment of an EN vtuber's stream and push it out like hotcakes on their own channels. they don't translate, they don't edit, they don't do any real work of the clippers who made JP Holos famous. they're just leeching off en vtuber's streams. don't lump shits like Vtubers R Us in with real clippers who put in translation work with JP holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Any vtuber that complains about clippers is a literal retard and they dont know how youtube and twitch works.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you even monetize a <30s clip?
I thought the magic number was 10min.
Either way, vtuber clips seem to just get shorter and shittier as time goes on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562119
>EN clippers are content thieves, robbing the og creators of all the energy they siphon away from them in viewership for their channels.

>implying that having to clip, cut things with comedic timing, add subtitles for the deaf/translations to non-EN languages, and figure out how to market the clip so it gets caught by the algorithm isn't work
Yes they're definitely content thieves, not like gura because the #1 vtuber because of that clip of her going 'a' and singing ride on time, perfectly engineered to catch the youtube algorithm

[Anonymous No.]

What if I use the clips to make a bunch of different vtubers sing a song, a la https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhIND5tUMHk ?
>cringe
It's from 2012, that's a given.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562255
>Can you even monetize a <30s clip?
yes
>>9562255
>vtuber clips seem to just get shorter and shittier as time goes on.
because it's easier to farm views and buff your numbers when you have a short 1 minute clip that gets 36k views instead of a 5 minute clip that only gets 2.1k

[Anonymous No.]

ENVtubers cannot cope with the fact that they're only popular because of clippers kek, and instead of putting in the effort to hire a clipper themselves or do the damn work themselves, they complain about the clippers

If clippers are stealing your views, why not just clip yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562255
It hasn't been 10 minutes for a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562401
>ENVtubers cannot cope with the fact that they're only popular because of clippers
which ones became famous popular because of clippers? because i only see the same handful names that were already big. clippers don't clip small channels. they leech off larger ones like Vshojo that were already big long before clipping started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562401
>If clippers are stealing your views, why not just clip yourself?
i always wonder why they don't
i've seen nonchuubas upload vod highlights before

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562301
You could probably say it's fair use, but if you use Hololive voices, then those fanwork guidelines for music they have might fuck you over. Like Holob*ss

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562255
10m is the magic number for channels that already have a big audience because you can have two ad segments in one video.
But recently the youtube algorithm has been promoting short videos (to compete with tiktok), so the current meta to grow your channel is to spam a shit ton of short videos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562526
It requires a lot of time to do yourself.
Bigger streamers hire editors to do it for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
holy mother of combos

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562482
Why doesn't vshojo clip themselves, then? If clipping is truly an oh-so effortless task of content theft? Surely having an official YT clip channel would take no effort at all!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562290
I don't doubt clippers literally got gura where she is.

100%

But business wise, now is not there time anymore. Cover, and vtubers want their content to be monetized by themselves.

In terms of property, it isnt the clippers money to be made.

But most vtuber companies are so incompetent I doubt much will change beside some strong arming by cover and the others, and a feeble attempt trying to clip themselves, and the utter incompetency of accomplishing a simple task will let them just let things be as they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562614
>Why doesn't vshojo clip themselves, then?
they do. they have a team on twitter that goes by the name of EN Vtubers Out of Context. that doens't stop leeches like Vtubers R Us from taking clips and monetizing themselves with it. how fucking retarded are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562674
Twitter is not YT. Also it's pretty scummy of vshojo to run an "EN VTubers" account that just boosts themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah this is bullshit.

The JP and EN Indie scenes are different, JP clippers are translators, they do a great job and most of them do it in good faith.

With the EN indie scene it's usually a shit show, there's people out there who make compilations of Twitter to almost promote them, other channels just spew out clips of lewd shit for views. People without a following love it, people with a following hate it.

If you're offended DMCA the clipper, don't whine about it and claim it'll break your 24 hour exclusivity deal with Twitch, it won't, it's not you. Twitch are entitled to DMCA in the 24 hour window but they don't because you're too small to matter to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562718
scuminess of Vshojo's business practices aside, that doesn't change the fact that Vtubers R Us is a fucking piece of shit for bragging on twitter about how smart and talent they are when all they do is leech off larger vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562730
I would imagine part of the problem is that going the DMCA/copyright route requires you to doxx yourself to the clipper.
The hololive doxx channel thought he got a big win when he got struck by Kson since there was a name attached but it was just her lawyers name.

[Anonymous No.]

>ruins abridged series
>now ruining western vtubbing
Wow Taka why does everything you touch turn to shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562905
what does takahata have to do with an alphabet person

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562997
He's probably the "good friend" mentioned in the OP pic since he was the one who picked a fight with Vtubers R Us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9563103
He’s also the only one who posts clips to his own channel. It could be pure coincidence but Taka was cancer in TFS so it wouldn’t surprise me if he did similar here

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562905
Maybe Cover is right about not letting males anywhere near vtubing as a whole. Maleheras are the fucking worst.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562674
EN Vtubers Out of Context are known to steal clips from people and they also were live clipping as well.

It's not completely a vshitshow account but it's kinda obvious when they've not touched HoloEN2 but have no issue clipping the rest. Even NijiEN2 got uploads from them.

They also claim to accept submissions but barely post any unless it's their select clique. It's not the best account, but nobody has gone after them yet.

>>9562614
Melody has a clip account endorsed by her. The rest don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555835
>>9558932
Shit, time to upload all the most popular vshojo clips to youtube with clickbait titles to piss them off.

[Anonymous No.]

The VTubers R us guy seems nice and even chibidokii reached out to him to assure him that she enjoys his help. Taka is a malehera who became a vtuber to salvage his stagnant eceleb career after he sucked abridged dry. clippers might be a leech sometimes, but taka is a straight up parasite

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
Fuck you, I'm going to read it now to spite you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9563252

[Anonymous No.]

>>9563670
anon... it's time to let go... holostars died 6 years in the accident. It wasn't your fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9563519
>The VTubers R us guy seems nice
blatant damage control, stick to twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9563973
>defending takahita
Fuck off, Takahita. Nobody likes you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9563519
Lani was the glue holding TFS together. He was a true bro

[Anonymous No.]

been playing with this post for 5 minutes and I narrowed it down to this:

Clippers attract an
"" "" "" "" "" "" audience "" "" "" "" "" ""

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Clippers are kind of a big deal. I can only imagine how many 2viewer chuubas would suck off a clipper to get their channels promoted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565641
>make clips of yourself with clickbait titles
>upload to a second account
>???
>profit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9565641
>I can only imagine how many 2viewer chuubas would suck off a clipper to get their channels promoted.
and yet there are no clippers who actually clip 2views and only clip pee pee poo poo jokes from vshojo girls. curious...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
People only give a shit about Cimrai because they saw clips of her. What a stuck up bitch. She's not even a good vtuber she just has a neat expensive model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9566680
delete all clippers and put 2views in their place

[Anonymous No.]

those bitch vtubers moan about clippers while half of their content is doing “react content” which is basically the same as clip content like wtf is this hypocrisy. At least be like those few chad Twitch streamers (non vtub) from top10 who said “i’m proud I can have a whole ecosystems of clippers and multiple of them can make their living of this”

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562119
It's cute that you don't realize there are dozens of channels that clip the JP Holos for Japanese viewers
https://youtu.be/wchDJaR-SsE
https://youtu.be/lrfuiOaqIEg
https://youtu.be/Wnf-zOViDGY

Clips help the Holos by boiling their content down into easily digestible clips that work better on the algorithm than stream VODs do. They massively increase exposure. It's free advertising and the Hololive boom wouldn't have happened without it. In fact the key difference between Hololive and Nijisanji is that Hololive was widely clipped and translated in the first half of 2020 and Nijisanji wasn't. The resulting gap in their EN divisions is almost entirely because of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9566587
The reason is the same why 2 viewer chubas dont have 2k viewers. Because the 2k viewer chuubas that get clipper are much more funnier

[Anonymous No.]

>>9567066
The issue is that while it’s “free advertising” it’s not necessary aligned with your vision. Imagine it only clips of Kronii were ones wherr she panders to Takeshis. It would make her stream get ever more takeshits

[Anonymous No.]

>>9567066
i remember seeing a nipclipper with a member join button
he didn't have any member only videos though

[Anonymous No.]

Most EN vtubers are twitch streamers and like half their content is "reacting" to youtube videos so whatever opinion they might have to muh fair use is invalid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556821
>LBQTRUHUJFYIEIJ
this part just means they're pro gay / lesbian / bi / transgender / all the other made up sexual degenerate shit the left wing is currently obsessed with. They are signaling themselves as woke and a special class of person that's better than normal straight people and deserves special rights

>ADHD/ASD
ADHD: attention deficit hyperactive disorder. this is notoriously over diagnosed to the point of a meme but basically means they're a failure with 0 responsibility and self control and they medicate with meth to fix this
>ASD
autism spectrum disorder. they be autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>9567351
thanks gayfessor

[Anonymous No.]

>>9567351
>they medicate with meth
shit nigger sign me up with one of those prescriptions

[Anonymous No.]

>>9567160
That would be her fault for making content for them in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562119
>Aiko is a lazy bitch
Aiko translates EN (and some ID) clips to Spanish for her largely Latin American audience who don't understand a word of English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
give me a teal doctor of that because I ain't reading all that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Really sounds up his ass, sounds like those game companies wanting to controle any bit of content made with their game, of course they want the best deal for themsevles, doesn't mean they should be listened to.

[Anonymous No.]

the vtubers r us dick sucking squad is here in full force. you organize a discord raid or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562139
This, the clippers for Hololive JP actually put work into it by translating.
Clippers for EN don't have to do any work except for making the most clickbait title and subject.
it's apples and oranges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
>LGBTQIA2S+
Do americans really? This acronyms has a new letter every fucking year

[Anonymous No.]

>>9567351
>>9567420
Most of the time it's actually just regular speed, but some people get prescription meth

[Anonymous No.]

This is an old problem that moved into a new trend. Twitch streamers had the clip vulture problem for years

[Anonymous No.]

>>9568377
Seethe more Cumrai

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557155
Most big streamers pay one of multiple people to clip their streams into "best of" and similar, majority of people don't have the time or motivation to see trough multiple hours of streams, seeing the best 10min of it is just better for the general audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
>LGBTQIA2S+
At this point, its like someone just mashed their forehead on the keyboard, looked at the result and said "Yes I am now FNJBFMK%#@VBHU9 HU8++##%$ for my sexuality so I am very unique and quirky".

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Do they think I'm a fucking NEET who has the time to actually watch their streams?

I rely on clippers to be able to enjoy vtubers at all. I ain't got fuckin time to watch then fuck around for hours on end, just gimme the highlight reel and fuck you if you have a problem with it you spoiled whore.

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>>9568682
>same joke but worse
how's the horse dewormer taste?

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>>9568696
most streamers has that one guy in the comments posting timestamps of their favorite moments

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>>9562646
You realize the irony of your post given most vtubers make their money while showing the content of games they didn't make and the viewers didn't buy? Sure in Japan corpos have to ask for permission but that's about it, and in the west everyon can do that without any issue and companies appreciate that as free advertisement even

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>>9568696
>I rely on clippers to be able to enjoy vtubers at all. I ain't got fuckin time to watch then fuck around for hours on end
that's fair, but that's not the point. the problem is clippers going around bragging as if their numbers is a result of their personal skill and talent at content creation when all they're doing is live clipping and posting someone else's work.

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>>9568906
It's he same as vtubers/streamers making content out of other people content, be it by reacting to youtube videso (very common) or even playing a game or doing a watchalong. They take existing content and add a bit to it. Clippers also take existing content, and add the work of selecting the more interesting moments and cutting and editing and adding subttitles and providing it. It's really not that different.

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>>9569078
>downloading a 18 second clip and monetizing it is the same thing as being a streamer
did he promise to clip your channel if you came here to defend his honor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9568857
Awful, I prefer sniffing on sodium peroxide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9563492
snuffy is an indie vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>9558932
>clippers do not make your career
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9568857
Is the NPC meme actually this accurate? I often try to cut myself off from all the bullshit for a while and then I suddenly see everyone use the same buzzwords and insults as if they all received the latest update.

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>>9555637
Crimrai, Taka and few others are full of vile and rotten shit.
Person that before vtubing had previously big career as VA, artist etc. and don't hide it at all don't need clips, they dragged their viewer base with themselves.
But for most of vtubers clippers ARE VITAL FOR SUCCESS. Fact that your silly shit was seen on youtube clip compilation and someone wanted more ATTRACTS VIEWERS.

Yes, there are stupid and toxic clippers, just as there are stupid and toxic vtubers like Taka, Crim and rest of that fucking bunch.

[Anonymous No.]

this all started because one clipfag claimed he made vtubers big but we all know that chinks at hololive moments are what caused a big proportion of people start watching vtubers directly and indirectly and people disregarded them regardless of their impact.
so why the fuck does this clipfag think hes any less disposable when he doesnt even put in half the work that those chinks did.

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>>9569883
>Yes, there are stupid and toxic clippers
You can add birdkun for the stupid part and that chink clipper group who wanted "recognition" from hololive for both.

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>>9568857
I dunno. Why haven't you joined the 41%?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Literally who?

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>>9555637
they have the right to take down bad actors

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>>9569883
streamers succeed without clips all the time, at most they post highlight videos.
it wasnt until a few months ago that vinny vinesauce got a small clip channel.
clippers can be beneficial sure but most enclipper just act as twitch clip reposting channels but with clickbait thumbnails and none of the money goes to the streamer

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>>9555637
On one hand it's copyrighted that belongs to the vtubers.
But on the other, most vtuber content is ripped off something else so who gives a shit.

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>>9559225
>Once YouTube expands its own clipping, you'll be seeing a lot more of that too.
YouTube already has a clip feature and it's miles better than the Twitch one since it works off of and gives the view to the original video that's being clipped. The only downside is that they limited the length of clips a bit too much, but that is a minor priblem that may be easily fixed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9556657
envtubersooc are paid by vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560611
Flare is retarded too. Just ignore it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9570919
>Flare is retarded too
I'd say japanese in general are braindead in some departments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
>entire alphabet in her bio
who cares

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>>9564011
>seen a clip of the Taka guy with this Cimrai and a moth bitch that ate somebody
>google the name
>was Cell and Nappa in TFS
Wow, DBZA really was all they had going for them. What a shame

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>>9570789
proof? source?

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>>9569959
The whole 'hololive moments' thing was frustrating. I mean, they had a point, the reason that a lot of people got into Hololive was the abundance of clip compilations that had been made. However, they stated that they felt they were more important that the original content creators, which just felt wrong. If anything, there's a symbiosis between the content creator and the clipper with one feeding into the other.

>>9559771
It felt weird in the Fauna pokemon stream where I don't think the stream had even finished and there was already a clip video uploaded with a title something like FAUNA BULLYING KIDS. It felt like some kind of weird paparazzi thing.

[Anonymous No.]

clipping is fine, but don't try to pretend like you are the sole arbiter of who makes it or not. you just clip segments of other people's streams. that's it. you have no talent, no skill. know your place and stop trying to brag about your nonexistent talent.

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>>9557155
Highlights and Spanish subtitles, though the latter is only really a HoloEN thing

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>>9555637
valid points. that said
>fued
lol

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>>9562119
>JP clippers are doing actual work
There's a couple that are just clipping the sounds and words they say without translating though, like for Ayame in particular they just clip her saying her catchphrase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
Why do women write essays? I'm not reading that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9574903
subtitle it and reupload

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>>9567163
>he didn't have any member only videos though
That's a good way to getting the vtuber to strike you.

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>>9574994
And im telling you there are JP clips out there without any subtitles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN_RKXuNIW4

[Anonymous No.]

>>9575432
subtitle it and then monetize your version
also did they really clip a hologra which already has subtitles

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
best response

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>>9555637
The clipper is a double-edged sword with both benefits and problems.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't release my clips to the public. I'd like to say there is a deep reason for it, but I actually just don't have a youtube or twitter account and I'm also lazy.

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>>9562526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wqVscho7Mk&list=PLZ34fLWik_iArw4DunbRP2Y_PFXmhx_m5&index=2
>watame clips herself
>it also has subtitles
galaxy brain sheep

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>>9575528
The benefits are also the problem: clippers are independant which means you don't have to pay them yet you also have little control over them.

The only way to make absolutely sure that your talent is painted in the best light is to hire your own clippers, but that's a cost few are willing to incur despite the benefits.

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>>9556821
>gringo
Go back over the wall.

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>>9575476
Ultra based. Every oldfag knows that copyright law as it exists is so dogshit and archaic that arguing about your copy rights is a limp dick move.

It's even worse when you're a reaction channel and your entire livelihood depends on exploiting other people's intellectual property.

The only claim someone ever truly is entitled to is a moral claim if their content or information is being weaponized and signal boosted in a way that appears to be deliberately crafted to cause personal IRL harm or inconvenience, regardless of intent.

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>>9560770
they keep adding more and more, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9568857
>horse dewormer
you only need to look at this troon to see how effective CIA's brainwashing techniques are.

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>>9555937
>>9556599
>a clock is right twice a day
get you head out of you ass for one second with the alphabet mafia shit and see the sense for once in a blue moon these retards make

[Anonymous No.]

>>9577119
i didn't read it because it was too long

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>>9555937
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555637
All clippers that don't hardsub their videos should be DMCA'd.

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>>9557744
>put link in streamable and cut it to the part you want
>open it with an editing software and add subs to an already english stream, often in broken english
>make a clickbait thumbnail and title
>get it monetized and enjoy your ad revenue
fuck clippers, the only worthwhile clippers are the ones that translate from one language to another
everything else is garbage

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>>9562614
Does anyone understand what a Youtube channel is? They post 3 minute videos filled with edited “clips”. How retarded and spoonfed are you that you need some sort of clickbait clip account to know what content is. All of Vshojo are Twitch streamers so all their Youtube videos are just edited clip compilations.

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>>9578052
To me this just demonstrates why clipping yourself doesn't work. Because there are no 'clickbait clip accounts' spreading shit for them, no one who doesn't already have more than a surface-level knowledge of Vshojo even knows that channel or clips even exists. Yes, spoonfeeding is entirely the point here.

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>>9578371
Well obviously, you are just essentially reposting content that viewers are going to watch. The point of clippers being someone else is to widen the reach of your content, and this is helped more if said clipper also clips for other vtubers beside yourself, this means audience from that other vtuber have a chance at checking out you through the clippers clip of yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

Of course, it's their content, if they don't want others to use footage of them then they can. It's just that you are also gonna lose out on an outlet that could have spread awareness of your channel.

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>>9557599
bugger off nonce

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
They're adding numbers now. lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>9557981
Lyger…

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>>9568452
Some of them translate from English to Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>9562905
can someone give me the tl;dr on taka. who is this fucker that some how knows all these big vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>9560654
What do you think clippers do?
streamer: "I'm gonna come over there and cook for you"
Clipper thumbnail: "I'M GONNA COME"

[Anonymous No.]

>>9555937
why do these people use mental disorders like some kind of boyscout badges?

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>>9555835
>>9558932
noisy entitled western whore, what's new?
maybe stop talking about sucking so much cock to your predominantly lonely and horny male audience if you dont want clippers to coom bait with clips from your stream

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>>9555637
I just unfollowed this one, namely because I only see them bitch on twitter and I don't watch twitch

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>>9558932
>>9555637
Look at the difference between a jap bitch and a western twitch whore. With western whores you either get walls of text which they expect you to read or demanding passive aggressive tweets.
>>9557864
>>9560611
In oppose to the japs who straightforwardly and politely ask you to stop what you're doing.