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>>9523720
ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/ (RIP)
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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home sweet home

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>>9523720
OP is imposter

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>>9523720
huh, that like dislike ratio

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>>9523720
sana and rrat going on jp primetime

So another 3k for sana and Bae is a watchalong so doesnt matter

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Any events expected to have big numbers tonight?

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>>9524072
>rrat going on jp primetime
>another 3k
wrong
Rat is doing fine during JP prime (she even got better numbers for Part 2 of Bayonetta2), But game was Huge debuff from the start
>Sana
yeah..

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>>9524072
The numberfag in me is concerned that Sana seems to want to do a Holoscopes stream once a week at this timeslot, which already sucks for EOPs.
It's a gimmick stream at best that should be done once a month (when horoscopes actually change), but done weekly, it feels like a shitty, 1-hour themed Zatsudan in a timeslot when most EOPs are asleep.
Sana already has troubles attracting an audience at this point (seeing her subcount) and Holoscopes is just a waste of a stream since it's not helping her. It's actually going to go to 1-2k views in a few more weeks.

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>>9524156
I think the Kuzuha + friends R6S tournament is tonight?
As for upcoming events, the only one I can think of for JPs is the upcoming Niji pokemon unite tournament, which you might have already guessed, Kuzuha will once again be the main POV everyone watches.
For ENs, anniversaries are this week so numbers should be quite big.

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>>9524221
disagree, i like part 2.
+ Zatsu with a theme is better then without.

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>>9524072
They are pulling NijiEN median views now. Its over for both of them.

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>>9524197
anon whether its jp primetime or not rats is doing watch along it's guaranteed low number if you're not gura or takamori

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>>9524362
i see you keep dreaming every nijiEN will have Selen's median, huh

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>>9524400
yeah i checked schedule after post. but i still think this is her best slot

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>>9524362
LOL NijiEN wishes they have a 3k median.
Baelz and Sana are both way above 3k median anyways.

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>>9524068
Sus

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>>9524268
he's also the best player due to his LoL background so he can probably 1 vs 5 everyone.

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>>9524362
>NijiEN median views
hmm>>9512766

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>>9523720
>thread made by a SEAnigger shitposter
Off to a bad start

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>mori will soon be the n.2 most subscribed holo
how does that make you feel

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>>9524679
Seeing this reminds me how fucking heads and shoulders Gura is above the competition. Like Jesus Christ, are there at least 1.7 million cunny lovers that don't like other Vtubers?

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>>9524679
Gura will hit four million before kizuna Ai hit three.

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>>9524746
1.7 million underage children you mean. She's the PewDiePie of vtubers, down to having the 12 year old kiddie fanbase.

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>>9524268
>R6S tournament
Again? How long is this even supposed to last?

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>>9524613
Kuzuha getting 382k likes is already insane by Niji standards, and it took his cover being the most viral one to do it.
Gura and Mori are just in a tier of their own. Reflect and RIP aren't covers and they both have 500k+ likes.
100k likes is massive for any vtuber, so 165k for an original song by Suisei is amazing.

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>>9524782
Ah yes here comes the nijicope

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>>9524828
So nijisanji confirmed for bots?

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>>9524855
If that's your takeaway from my post, you might be retarded, tribalfag.

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>>9524679
remember when subs count was the primary measure of success?

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>>9524855
no, tourist

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>>9524855
Sometimes you really just have to see that Hololive in on a league of their own. Fuji Aoi is a success by all metrics but she struggles to hit 100k (non singing streams) from time to time.

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>>9524877
Hololive showed us that it's easy to game the system. That's why CCV is the king, and Kuzuha and HAL run this shit

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>>9524855
(You) confirmed for low IQ SEAnigger. Kuzuha has a higher like ratio than Suisei's most popular original song does.

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>>9524877
It would still be if Gura didn't completely destroy any competition, CCV is just cope.

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>>9524877
Still is, and anyone trying to convince you otherwise is coping

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>>9524938
NTA but comparing a cover, especially one that went viral like Kuzuha's King, to an original song is peak retarded.
If Kuzuha had an original song, it will probably not get 172k likes (Ghost). No Niji original has gotten close to that much.

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There's so much cope going on in this thread you might as well rename the place Copenhagen

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>>9525003
>No Niji original song has ever gotten close to Susei's Ghost
>Mafumafu's songs consistently mog Susei
COPE, SEETHE, DILATE AND NECK YOURSELF HOLOFAGGOT

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>>9525032
>mafumafu
>niji
is this a new cope?

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>>9525032
>Niji
>mafumafu
This isn't even good bait, it's just cringe.

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>>9525032
Desperation is an ugly colour, especially on a nijinigger

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>>9525073
>>9525095
He means NijiEN Diamond City Lights song which is mixed by him. But don't assume I'm part of this convo he is retarded

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>>9524156
For holo Korone Vs Miko split pov, marine kanata doing something idk can't read jp on kanata ch and whatever peko gonna stream

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>>9525003
Do you realize the reason Kuzuha has a lower like rate than Gura is because JP doesn't throw likes, subs and comments around like confetti like the West does? Here's the original song he covered. It has an even lower like rate than his.

Seriously, we need to rangeban SEAniggers. You monkeys do nothing but shitpost. The numbers thread is at its absolutely lowest quality when they are awake.

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>>9525114
>Diamond City Lights song which is mixed by him.
I think he composed it actually. He also composed Fuwa's original song.
Even then, Diamond City Lights only has 43k likes, which is already quite high for Niji original standards.

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>>9525024
>might as well rename the place Copenhagen
kek, I’ll remember that to steal when the time comes

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>>9525138
>marine kanata doing something
[WarioWare: Get It Together!]

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>>9525178
>JP doesn't throw likes, subs and comments around like confetti like the West does?
That's Japan's problem. It's how the Youtube game is played. I'm sure Niji would love it if their viewers subbed, liked and commented more instead of just liking tweets.

Also, like rate is a fucking retarded statistic. It only decreases over time as the song gets more plays, and the people who keep listening to it can't like it more than once. When Kuzuha's King reaches 40 mil views in years and he doesn't reach 500k likes, then what?

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>>9525073
>>9525095
>>9525105
Mafumafu is an honorary Niji retards, just like how Holomamas (like Pochi, Amamy and Ui), Tamaki are considered as honorary Holos

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>>9525185
>have songs composed by mafumafu and fucking Giga
>still can't beat a shark with an indog composer
kek

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>>9525178
>JP doesn't throw likes
c***

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>>9525436
Gwelu is still at it? Gotta hand it to him, he is a man of pure commitment and will.

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>>9525178
>is because JP doesn't throw likes, subs and comments around like confetti
kek, the coep smog it too thicc, I can’t breath.

Maybe this anon is right tho, maybe the JP NOT ONLY doesn't throw likes, subs and comments around like confetti BUT ALSO doesn’t view the streams live, doesn’t watch the VOD on YouTube and pretend to everyone they know they never ever never watch the stuff, only to download it through a VPN with a Eastern European IP, save it on a burner phone and watch it in a sound proofed basement surrounded by a faraday cage.

That would also provide an excuse for the low CCV too and low VOD for many of their talents too.

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>>9525457
Will be until 1 million. That's the point of the stream.

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>>9525436
GO ASUMIN GO

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>>9525342
Nijinigger desperation knows no bounds

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>>9525465
Kill yourself SEAnigger

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>>9525178
It's more of a Niji problem than a JP problem. Tons of JP songs have over a million likes. Hikakin just reached 10 mil subs and his videos have tons of likes and comments. Not saying every JP youtuber is Hikakin, but that already shows that it's not like they don't do it.

This reeks of crying about how the other team has more passionate fans and how it's somehow unfair despite both sides given the same tools.

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>>9525527
nc argument, dog

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>>9525475
I'm legit curious what would happen if/when he gets close (around 800k), assuming of course he seriously keeps this up and doesn't lose interest in doing it.

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>>9525532
like i said, it's all tourist

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>>9525532
>the most subbed JP youtuber has only 10m subs
If that doesn't tell you something about how engagement is on the JP side then you're genuinely a low IQ SEAnigger.

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>>9525563
It's far more likely his computer breaks before then.
It'll take Gwelu years at this rate to get to 1 mil.

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>>9523720
what is the shittiest prime number and why is it 23?

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>>9525532
Bruh... stop being dumb.

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>>9525178
>JP doesn't throw likes, subs and comments around like confetti like the West does
They should learn how the youtube game is played then, it's their loss.

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>>9525602
Stop crying about it and like some Niji videos

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>>9525608
>They should learn how the youtube game is played then, it's their loss.
IMO, they are watching their favorite chuubas, just because they like them and want to watch something entertaining. They don't care about "playing youtube game". But I guess it's to hard to understand for people with Holo mentality.

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>>9525580
Still a ton of subs for a streamer who speaks a language that isn't EN or ES. People forget how hard it is to cross 1mil subs which is why it was such a big deal when the shark outpaced Korone and FBK for it. Just over a year ago, only 2 chuubas had ever crossed that mark. And now that it's become common place for Holos to do it, most people kind of just expect them to get there sooner rather than later.

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>>9525178
>JP doesn't throw likes
this so fucking hilarious.
i would take argument
>YT algorithm brings more Unique viewers (EOP tourists) to Gura's channel >>9472997
>+amount of EOP viewers >JP viewers
but this bullshit just unspeakable

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>>9525657
Then why are you trying so hard to defend Niji if they clearly don’t need it. The more you try to defend them against the big bad Holorolos the more it sounds like cope.

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>>9525657
It they really cared about their favorite chuubas they would learn the youtube game to support them better. Instead they get the real tourists who just watch when they feel like it but don't actually do anything else to support them.

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>>9525657
>playing youtube game
oh sure, THIS is the reason people/normies press L button

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>>9525657
so liking a video is called holo mentality now, i see.., keep scraping for more cope anon.

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>>9525672
Anon, your reasoning is completely wrong. Who let this child on 4chan? Damn, your parents should really limit your access to internet.

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>>9525664
There's a Brazilian with 43m subs. Brazil doesn't even have double the population of Japan.

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>>9525657
In the words of the anon who started this
>JP doesn't throw likes, subs and comments around like confetti like the West does
EOP Holofans aren't doing this to play the youtube game, that's just how EOPs are. Eventho he's wrong about JPs and even EOP filter Holos like Shion and Ayame still get a lot of likes.

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>>9525687
Did you see me defending someone? If you did, that was probably another anon.
>>9525700
No, that just retarded. That shouldn't be their problem, but rather youtube's.
>>9525706
Probably
>>9525711
Liking a video not because you enjoyed the video, but because you are playing a "youtube game", yes, that's Holo mentality.

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>>9525724
>your reasoning is completely wrong
did not point specifics.
>Who let this child on 4chan?
deflection.

too easy

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>>9525724
12 year old SEAmonkey Gura fanboys pls undastand

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>>9524308
I disagree. If you're good at zatsus you don't need a theme imo. Just look at Mori who is the master of zatsus among the EN imo (apart from Gura, but she never does straight up zatsus). A theme is just a crutch, something you can fall back on when you can't come up with something interesting to say.

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>>9525767
>Liking a video not because you enjoyed the video, but because you are playing a "youtube game", yes, that's Holo mentality.
This tells us all we need to know. Laugh it out and PLEASE stop responding to this retard.

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>>9525769
>Who let this child on 4chan?
Proved by:
>deflection. too easy
Looks like I was correct, feels really nice. Now go do your homework.

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>>9525767
i hope this one is bait, otherwise touch some grass, ironically

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>>9525767
>That shouldn't be their problem, but rather youtube's.
Holy cope. It's not that fucking hard to click the sub button and the like, you know.

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>>9525809
Anon, everyone is laughing at you now, how can't you see that? Stop embarrassing yourself.

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>>9525747
Most Brazilian's speak Portuguese though which is a language that's spoken by a lot more people than JP. And no, weebs ironically saying "baka" and "hentai"don't count.TXTNP

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>>9525767
>Liking a video not because you enjoyed the video, but because you are playing a "youtube game", yes, that's Holo mentality.
the amount of projecting in this is through the roof

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>>9525831
Yes, it's not hard, and people do that if they really liked the content and want to watch it again. The problem is with "youtube game players".

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>>9525747
Next, you're going to say Pewdiepie has 110M subs and is the most subbed person in Sweden, but Sweden doesn't have 11x as many people as Japan.

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>>9525813
>Looks like I was correct
what about this>>9525672

any "arguments here" or you will keep deflecting

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My favorite episode of /#/, the one where a single schizo takes up the entire thread because anons love to give (You)s

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>>9525844

>>9525831
>>9525815
>>9525852
nah

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>>9525852
This much cope can be unhealthy...

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>>9525664
Hikakin is not a streamer he is a Youtuber and he streams on his side channel...

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>>9525882
Anon, you really want me to put an arguments against child's mumblings? Don't put so much privileges on yourself.

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>>9473180
Algoritym actually pushes Nyanners pretty well. She is probably the only VShojo that could work on Youtube, though it wouldn't be worth it. BTW, Someone else mentioned people leaving Twitch for Youtube, but I think that's just the very top of Twitch. Twitch will probably be the better place for small or medium sized English speakers because of the Prime subsidy. Maybe if Youtube introduces raids that will change? Still probably not enough to start over though.

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>>9525846
>>9525878
Portuguese: 258m speakers
Japanese: 126m speakers
Yet the most popular Brazilian youtuber has over 4 times more subs than the most popular JP youtuber.

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>>9524934
>Hal
Not even in the top5

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>>9525885
Ngl, reading numbers thread daily is my entertainment nowadays.

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>>9525931
>Twitch will probably be the better place
It isn't and it won't be, mainly because the difference in userbase between Twitch and YouTube is astronomical, especially in non-western markets.

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>>9525931
I'm pretty sure Nyanners having a 1.3M subbed channel helps her in the algorithm too even if it's only for highlights and not streams. She was quite well known already back in the day, way before Vshojo.

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>>9525950
I don't know man, maybe the guy is just more entertaining to his target audience than hikakin is to his. I remember someone posting a pic of a bunch of spic streamers whose views absolutely dwarfed Jun let alone any Chuuba when he was trying to make an argument how Holo ES was viable (which I disagreed with completely)

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>>9526036
>Jun
Yeah, about him... he has less subs and lower like rate than Kuzuha but monstrous CCV in comparison. How do you explain that? Could it fucking be that JP has lower engagement rate as I've been saying and it's not a Niji exclusive thing?

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>>9525950
Congratulations, you proved that there are more portuguese-speaking people from around the world that like whinderssonnunes's content than Japanese-speaking people that like Hikakin's content.

What does this have to do with anything again? Doesn't change that Hikakin still gets a lot of subs, likes and comments, something you said JPs don't do.

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Over 6k Haatons people watching Haachama singing her intro over and over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXEAD7lcA9I

It's inclining too, kek, Haaton are just masochists

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>>9526131
They do, but at a much lower rate than Westeners. Look at Jun's subs and likes compared to Kuzuha's. It's much lower despite his videos getting a lot more views. It's the best observable example since both are JP youtube streamers with similar content.

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>>9525923
>child's mumblings
oh, i see you like "child"'s voice in your head. but this is numbers thread and you did not throw me any.
but it's ok i'll leave you alone, poor soul.
just prepare some extra when you will come to this thread next time shitter.

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>>9526130
Could be an audience thing, honestly. It's basically the reverse of Gura and Pekora where one gets higher CCV but Gura gets a lot more VOD views. I agree with you on likes engagement (I can't believe that's a fucking thing) since even I'm guilty of that where I might like a YouTube vid but not click the "like" button. Look, there's multiple factors as to why Niji performs less than Holo in terms of engagement. My personal guess would be Holos global audience completely offsets any local advantage Nijisanji has hence why they can trump them on YouTube. But that doesn't explain everything. It's impossible to use a one size fits all method when doing analytics because that shit don't work.

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>>9526256
Sounds like a Nijicope. Just like their streams then retard

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>>9526327
Even the JP holos with their EOP buff have a much lower like rate than the ENs but you're too much of a retarded nigger to research this yourself.

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>>9526216
It is actually pretty decent background noise. Also at least Haachama is actually streaming and not baiting.

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WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT?

>THE BIGGEST YOUTUBER IN JAPAN, 10M SUBS BEHEMOTH WITH THE FULL FORCE OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA PUSHING HIM INTO STARDOM
>some catshark showing feet and new clothes

THE ANSWER WILL BAFFLE, SURPRISE, ANGER AND THROW YOU INTO AN EPILEPTIC FIT!

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>>9526438
I don't want you to ever leave these threads

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>>9526256
>It's much lower despite his videos getting a lot more views.
The average Jun stream still has more likes than Kuzuha's streams, but this is expected because he has 3x the CCV. He's only 70k subs behind Kuzuha so he's not "much lower".

>JP youtube streamers with similar content.
jfc just say you don't know anything about either's content lol

It's literally nothing alike and they have completely different demographics. Kuzuha mostly streams FPS games, whereas Jun is a variety streamer. A large portion of Jun's viewers are 5ch shitposters and trolls so it's not surprising they aren't dropping likes for him. He's actually getting dislike bombed in all his recent streams.

They comment a fuckton tho.
Jun's stream yesterday (2250 comments)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-w3QYuxvhk

Kuzuha's stream yesterday (53 comments)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PftzSVOtYM

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>>9526324
>Niji performs less than Holo in terms of engagement.
the 1 example that i still didnt see yet (for whatever reason) is the fact that Niji fans do Not have a habit to throw SC during non special streams/events

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>>9526464
Yes, he has a high comment rate for some reason, but lower like rate than Kuzuha. Kuzuha's comment rate is pretty normal for vtubers though. Pekora's comment rate is the same despite her having substantial EOP buff.

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>>9526438
It was his countdown stream to 10 mil subs too.
In 6 hours, 3.1 mil views, 295k likes for a 20 min "stream".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRD_j5dbrYE

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>>9526438
Hikakin san

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>>9526438
This comparison just made me realize that Gura will probably not do anything special for her 10 million subs too. Man.

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>>9526523
Comment rate being low for streamers is normal.

>having substantial EOP buff
Can you name a Holo without a EOP buff? Because if you say all of them do, then this is pointless.

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Gura's mom has Passpartout stream
>60 min in
>2.6k peak
this s her 2nd stream

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvNn6mRroGDctnqU-FUsszg/videos

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>>9526523
Gura for comparison. Notice the higher like and comment rate.

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>>9526673
Ok numbers, not as good as Nabi though I believe.
Seems like a good place to end up in numbers-wise, but nothing too shocking.

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Here is the current Top 10, except this retarded site is missing Ina, ClockGirl and GreenLamy streams.
None of them beat 10k tho so this is promising to me yet a low median day for Hololive and vtubers in general, like yesterday

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>>9526706
How the fuck does it miss Ina???
I can understand Council but Ina?

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>>9526673
>>9526703
>not as good as Nabi though I believe.
You mena not as good as Nabi 2nd stream or overall? If the later, Nabi is in the 4 digits but way under 2k for her median

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>>9526706
>current Top 10
Yeah, I'd wait for the actual big guns to come in. Kuzuha, Pekora and Subaru will teach Gura who runs this place

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>>9526703
NTA
>not as good as Nabi
Nabi was EOP friendly from the start
+she has 2 Big(in term of numbers) EOP friendly daughters

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>>9526682
What does this mean then?
Like rate is a stupid metric?

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>>9526736
Huh, I thought Nabi had bigger numbers than that. but I guess not the strongest staying power. Didn't really keep track of her.
That said I think I saw that Nabi had really high twitch numbers on one of her streams because of koreans. Wish I knew which but she doesn't have past broadcasts rn.

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>>9526736
>Green Lamy 6,590 / 9,401
>Ina 7,746 / 9,357
>Kronii 5,676 / 7,683
>Ame 5,162 / 6,730

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>>9526729
ame 2>>9526813

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>>9526763
It means that Westerners/SEAniggers like videos at a higher rate than JP does, which is what this entire stupid discussion is about. There's nothing odd about Gura's KING cover surpassing Kuzuha's in likes.

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>>9526763
average video ike/views?

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>>9526895
>There's nothing odd about Gura's KING cover surpassing Kuzuha's in likes.
Everyone knew it was fucking inevitable so you're arguing with a boogeyman. Reflect has 500k+ likes ffs.
>Westerners/SEAniggers like videos at a higher rate than JP does
No one denies this.
The discussion is about your claim that JPs don't like/comment/subscribe, which they do. They just don't for Nijis, probably because of demographic reasons. Jun doesn't get likes, but he gets plenty of engagement on all his videos in the comments.

Here are some JOP examples:
Look at Sutopri's engagement numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daxORoHysTQ

Look at mafumafu's engagement numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwHqy9cKi7c

Look at Pmaru-sama's engagement numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5coAGhpKcyk

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>>9527051
Mafumafu's and PMaru's like rate is only 1% higher than Kuzuha's. There are plenty of Nijis with higher like rate than them.

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>THE KING ENTERS THE ARENA
It is looking like an easy mogging, Holo has essentially nothing special to offer for today.
Maybe MiKorone, but that's a multiPOV

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>>9527187
Kenmochi.

I think Kuzuha's like rate depends if he plays well or not. If he plays like shit people don't like the video, but his rate is still pretty common among JP streamers.

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>>9527312
>he doesnt know

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>>9527394
If you mean the drama anon dragged in a few threads ago that would not impact numbers. It won't be a crazy performance today though, his team definitely will not win.

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>>9527328
In fact, I noticed that Kenmochi has higher like and comment rate than Pekora even: >>9526523
Kuzuha's 1.89% like rate must be because of what I mentioned.

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>>9527312

Literally who

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>>9526438
You're the one who should have "AN EPILEPTIC FIT". The number is this way since his fans pranked him and subscribed much faster than he was expecting. He was supposed to stream this tomorrow but had to wake up in the middle of the night to start a stream since he was getting close to 9,990,000 subscribers and barely streamed for 20 minutes as a result.
At least use your brain a bit before making your retarded comparison posts.

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>>9527463
An indie who is known for his League plays and toxic behavior specifically against the homeless and disabled

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WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT?

>THE COMBINED FORCES OF THE MOST ANTICIPATED GENERATION OF WORLWIDE VTUBER OF THE AGENCY WITH THE LARGEST WESTERN MARKET SHARE
>a meek girl singing her OP song on repeat for a couple of hours

THE ANSWER WILL SURPRISE, ANGER, CONFUSE AND GIVE YOU INTERNAL BLEEDING!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527187
Jesus christ, what is your obsession with Like rate? It's a fucking shit metric, especially for songs, since views only go up but likes plateau when it's only fans looping it. All that matters is how many raw likes it's getting at the end of the day.

The fact is Nijis, even the ones with high CCV, do not usually get very likes on their songs or videos. There are many Japanese channels that do.

The Mafumafu videos tracked on playboard are his latest covers, none of which have gone viral so it's his fans looping them over and over. I'm giving a specific example of his streams that are getting high like numbers (39k) despite having a 20k peak CCV.

It's not Pmaru-sama's fault her vids all get over 1 mil views, but she still gets a lot of likes on them and her original song has over 511k likes, which is Gura level.

You still haven't explained Sutopri, which is as JOP as it gets. Like rate is still a stupid metric, but these guys get them in spades despite being unknown outside of Japan.

>>9527328
Like I said before, it's because of demographics. A certain type of JP audience likes and comments a lot, while some don't.
Holofags are passionate so they fit the demographic that will "like" content.
Jun's 5ch troll viewers aren't liking his videos, but they're making meme comments in the comments sections.
Nijifags just watch and drop likes on twitter instead I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527495
I didn't taste a seethe this delicious for the longest time, thanks for the feast mate!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527495

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>>9527508
lol you w8ed for a nhour for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527533
Don't need to feel any "seethe" when you correct somebody stuck at toddler stage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527521
Easy, Sutopuri fans are more adjacent to Kpopfags hence the numberfagging aka views and likes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527556
Give him some credit
He needed to crop out all the HoloEN streams that peaked higher than Haachama today so that must've taken a lot of work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527571
Two things
1) big number > small number
2) you think you really dunked on a "who would win this fight" post, don't you?
Did you just parachuted in this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527533
you sat on this shitty bait for a for a while, didnt you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527556
>>9527600
Counting Council and Hope only, I only had to remove one Fauna one

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527600
>He needed to crop out all the HoloEN streams that peaked higher than Haachama today
WAIT is this.. Haaton?

[Anonymous No.]

WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT?

>a SEAfag Astella shitposter who now shitposts against every side whenever it suits him due to the staggering amount of seethe he generates everyntime
>a bunch of numbers autists

THE ANSWER WILL CONFUSE, SHOCK, DISMEMBER, AND IMPREGNATE YOU!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527643
Mori will stream soon

[Anonymous No.]

HOW DO WE SAVE PLAYSTATION, LADS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527521
>Holofags are passionate so they fit the demographic that will "like" content
Except for Pekora's fans apparently. She has a lower like rate than Kenmochi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527508
But any kind of singing stream always does better than gaming streams? Especially all those kusoge/zatsu. Whats the point of this image? If anything those numbers are bad for a JP holo singing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527686
It's a shitpost, but she's singing a song whose only lyrics is
>Haachama Haachama Haachama Haachamachama
> Watame Watame
>Haachama Haachama Haachama Haachamachama
on repeat for the second hour now

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527679
Still on that note: regardless of your company preference if you are truly a numberfag you would appreciate this: Kuzuha mogging Hikakin 10M celebration with a surprise 170k stream.
Wouldn't that be magnificent?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527724
better lyrics then any Mori's song has

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527762
no, Gura outfit beats both

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527762
For a 10m youtuber thats pretty low tbqh even Koretube get more views than that

[Anonymous No.]

Would it be cool to have a chuuba that ages as they reach certain milestones? They start as a loli cunny, as they progress and get 500k, they'll reveal their middle school model. 1M. they'll reveal their high school model and so on. The person behind them is a VA that could change her voice depending on the character. It'd be a good novelty and incentive for people to sub her just to see her age and voice progressing especially if she's in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>on merch news
Hololive branded snacks on sale again on Family Mart.
That partnership must have really paid off

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528016
where's the twitter news?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527682
This one is pretty easy to explain.
Pekora usually gets around 22-30k CCV and 13-16k likes.
Kenmochi usually gets around 20-26k CCV and 10-11k likes.
Despite similar CCV, Pekora's VOD views are way higher because she streams longer than Kenmochi's short streams.
Playboard calculates like rate from likes/views of VOD.

But yes, Kenmochi's fans are quite passionate and he frequently beats Kuzuha in likes (he gets around 8k most of the time).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528079
I think this is a reissue, wouldn't make into a PR . Here is some contemporary news from when it got released
https://anitrendz.net/news/2021/08/03/hololive-teams-up-with-familymart/

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528142
hmmm?? soo did you just physically see it on familymart? you're in japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528079
>>9528142
Here is the original Twitter news
https://twitter.com/famima_now/status/1422406875425906690

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527762
Kuzuha having an irl streamed 3some with Rindou and Kanae then graduating immediately after would surely be magnificent numberswise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528187
Not me, charming strangers on the internet shared the pic

[Anonymous No.]

The rrat is done for. This is just sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528229
There is a reason for that: she's supposed to be the "embodiment of chaos" that would rival even Haachama and, so far, she didn't even come close.

That's the problem with "preset lore", people tune out of a perfectly good streamer because of the mismatch between expectation and reality

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528229
Damn.. IRyS didnt recline this bad and she speak Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>9523720

Not chaos enough. Selen is more chaotic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528229
Anon, this is not real. You clearly edited this image. There's no way any Council member could recline so hard.

[Anonymous No.]

In more partnership and sponsorship news, seems like Kiara is shilling some Bandai Namco game.
https://www.bandainamcoent.com/games/tales-of-arise

With this and that Square Enix it truly seems Hololive is "paying in advance" for permissions

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528410
Anon, she's ToA's Ambassador. But nevermind that, GIVE ME DARK SOULS ALREADY. WHY AREN'T YOU ALL PLAYING IT?

[Anonymous No.]

Niji
High likes = 2434 superiority
Low likes = "nah different culture, japanese don't like videos as much as westerners do"

Holo
High likes = botted
Low likes = Hololive reclining, Yagoo BTFO

Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528410
Kiara has been the official "ambassador" for Tales of Arise for many months now actually. It doesn't help her numbers because it's a JRPG, but it's one of her dreams and she gets paid.
Many JPs like Suisei have openly expressed how jealous they are of Kiara for getting the title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528458
Get back to grooming Elira's male friends, Riku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528428
hidetaka miyazaki is a holo anti

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528131
How does that affect like rate? Each view is unique. Pekora has the lowest like rate out of any holo I think. Pretty common to see Nijis with better like rates than her actually. Here's another one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528458
This but unironically, it's quite literally the result of the vtubing culture that Nijisanji has cultivated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528478
Is Tales series that popular in Japan? Kiara being an ambassador is just a stunt right to get the global market?

[Anonymous No.]

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT LIKES

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528229
what is up with the shitpost using thisimage on the board?
the rrat makes 800-1k on a good timeslot and less than that if she is way too late.

[Anonymous No.]

Suisei's karaoke is on the low side today. Friday night debuff is real huh.

[Anonymous No.]

Sana the views… baelz… HoloEN (yes including Kiara) never drop below 5k median views is this going to be the first one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528750
this are the first EN to actually stream regularly on JP prime time.
Not even kiara dared.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528523
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6wvdADTJ88OfIbJYIpAaDA/videos
You can have a look at Fuwa's VOD viewcount and the likes he gets. He's usually under 200k views for his VODs so getting 5k likes is very good. For comparison, Kuzuha gets 8k and he's regularly above 400k for VODs. He has also gotten a lot of likes on his very popular daily morning exercise show in July, which has low VOD views due to being 30 min streams.

>How does that affect like rate?
The more VOD views you have, the more likes you need to make the Like rate not look like shit.
Pekora getting 13-19k likes regular is already on the high end for vtubers (only Marine and HoloENs beat her), but because she regularly gets 400k+ view VODs, the like rate is low.
On the other hand, you have people like Risu, who has a 15% like rate because her VODs have 30k views but 4k likes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528927
Fuwa is more of a yumejo bait streamer than Kuzuha, ez
Women like streams more than men

[Anonymous No.]

>>9527312
Tournament king I kneel...

[Anonymous No.]

Anya used to be probably the most liked/ratio vchannel over 100k subs, with 19.7%.
She's been getting a lot more views nowadays though, many from Japanese viewers during collabs.

Think it's a very much worth it trade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528716
isstill nclining so probbaly will reach 30k depending on how long she keeps going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528927
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCpRXCTyNNa-MnjhK6gisnRw
>14%
KNEEL!
Do you see how retarded comparing like ratios is now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528478
I think it’s more fair to say shilling an obscure (to the west) JRPG didn’t absolutely tank her numbers completely. There’s something to be said for Hololive having some diversity in their talents even if some of them end up being niche. A successful campaign leads to better company relations and opens the doors for future collaborations. Nip corporations are still old school in that they value relationships and respect over efficiency sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

WHO WOULD WIN THIS SUPERCHAT FIGHT?

>the most powerful cooking entertainer of the vtuber agency with the biggest western presence, powered by over 1M subs doing her signature cooking stream?
>one meek blonde memelord singing the same song whose lyrics are written essentially repeating her name over and over?

THE ANSWER WILL BRAINWASH YOU!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528716
How dare you doubting True Holo Vsinger
Jp Azki and EN Azki don't look

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529127
It's hard to tell if she would theoretically reach 30k. But in reality... look how many people will start streaming in 10 minutest from now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529116
It's actually so silly.
Indogs and EOPs like to like videos in general, but seeing some NijiJPs get "middle" for Like rate because eventho their VOD views are in the 50k range, they have 2k likes and that's 4%.

>>9529151
You're preaching to the choir, anon. I've been saying Like rate is a fucking retarded metric all over this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529151
>getting mogged by Anya >>9529116

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't companies ever seek out Vshojo for sponsorship anyway? They get much higher viewershio than even some of the more popular Hololive members. Besides, being based in the US, they are much easier to reach as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528750
Why is this thread shitting on Bae?
She's just continuously playing debuff games and doing chatting streams.
Her minecraft numbers are much better than Sana's

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529254
i guess it is true. last time the karaoke was a little latter and eops could catch up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529244
Usually she gets 30k at this. But usually her karaokes is scheduled at 10pm JST or late nights. So timeslots matter. In conclusion, she doesn't get that much on this slot, but gets close to 30k near primetime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529244
>Announcement buff...
That a shame

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529292
>Why is this thread shitting on Bae?
>She's just continuously playing debuff games
Anon, in the numbers thread people get shat on for hurting their numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529244
>Shitting on Azki as Suzy announces Azki as a guest for her upcoming live concert

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529282
i recalled that nyanners got a FFXIV sponsorship before it got viral, and melody got FAKKU sponsorship as well. that's all i know though, maybe normie corpos just don't like coomerbait content?

[Anonymous No.]

Jun isn't a vtuber, but this is pretty interesting.
He might be dying in front of our eyes. I don't think I've seen him this low (33k) in a long time. His like/dislike ratio is also hilarious (2.3k likes/800 dislikes). Dude is getting targeted or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVqh-Z7AwLk

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529433
FFXIV was across multiple streamers on twitch.ifi recall. but yeah no sane company would look to sponsorship them.
>>9529507
arent those twitch numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529282
>>9529433
Being associated with Projekt Melody, on one hand, helped them ride that HUGE wave of notoriety that came with thighs seething about Melody encroaching on their turf.
On the other hand it hang a scarlet letter on their neck because the US is so averse to anything R Rated they almost caused OnlyFans to leave the thots business (and caused PornHub to leave the “anyone can upload” business) because bank regulations was used to choke their moneyline.

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>>9529507
Which site is this

[Anonymous No.]

Please tell me why is Kuzuha always in all the tournaments?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529709
Playboard

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529716
Because he enjoys them and it brings numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529716
That's why we call him "tournament king"

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529716
pew pew streamer likes playing pew pew games with friends and there are a lot of pew pew game tournaments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529716
Because he is the main character of a shounen manga, his life is an never ending tournament arc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529716
he is the shooter guy. if he isnt ina tournament he cant get big numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529716
Because he gets invited, duh

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529716
i don't know, why do soccer players do so many soccer games anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529864
Someone post the Resident evil stream numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>RatGirl doing a EN movie watchalong on JP primetime and 8AM East Coast
Wtf is she thinking? She’s lucky she peaked in the waiting room above 1k because she could be the first EN to get 3 digits in recent memory

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529864
yeah without tournaments, regular apex streams, pokémon, horror games, zatsudans, baseball, also if you take away his pc, break his arms and legs, rip his work permit in two and deport him to the philippines his channel is basically over. what now nijicucks?

[Anonymous No.]

You know that 177k stream Kuzuha got? Yeah this is the power of Johnny's member.
It's not the same person but it still applies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529900
Maybe she's hoping that her sister getting a summer edition will naturally boost her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529900
She only wants Australians like her to watch it I guess.
Funny that people accuse Holo management of numberfagging when they allow Sana and Baelz to waste their debut buff and sabotage their numbers right off the bat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530013
Just how much did that stream trigger you that you still need to mention it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529900
$200 stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530013
He got 140k IIRC.

>>9529895
>>9529971
Just call him a retard and move on. Shit bait is not worth the effort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529900
>Japanese don't watch EN movies
Anon, Fubuki does watch alongs of Marvel shit all the time and Marine just did a watchalong of all 3 Pirates of the Carribean movies

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530061
where am I triggered? Just showing some context buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529900
she is australian and it is firday night there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529895
re8 is a shooter tough.

[Anonymous No.]

Even a debuff game like R6S turns into good numbers for Kuzuha since it's a tourney. That's the main advantage he has over Pekora. The only tricks up Pekora's sleeve are non-split POV collabs and rare special events like Usaken. Kuzuha participates in these tourneys all the fucking time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529971
Shut up kuzushit
Toya is the real king of niji
>Not even half of kuzu's subs
>Just talking
>Beat the shit out of kuzu playing FPS

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530013
STAYYYY
WIIITH
MEEEEE
everyone knows this anon stop letting kuzuha + random SEA shitters using him for bait live rent free in your mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530231
not sure wy poeple get mad at saying he is a tourney guy, most of his good numbers come from there and his popularity comes from there.
Even if he doesnt win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530240
MOCHI GET BEHIND ME

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530240
>Imagine losing to a pedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530231
is he meant to decline the invitations? he IS a tournament guy, and this is the only good thing he does that buffs his numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530231
If you take away non split POV collabs, special events, Minecraft and also break her fingers, sarin gas her neighborhood, unbraid her braids, seal her in a soundproof box covered in wire mesh to serve as a Faraday cage and ship her to Afghanistan where she’ll be forced into marriage with a Taliban fighter WHAT KIND OF NUMBER CAN PEKORA EVEN GET HUH?

[Anonymous No.]

wanna ask, is it more profitable to not release your music on youtube, and only releasing it to music streaming services? cuz picrel lilypichu's songs got massive amount of plays on spotify but she didn't release them on youtube.
kinda makes sense cuz spotify got a better cut than youtube per play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529716
>why do popular shooter guy get invite to shooter tournament
he brings in views duh

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530240
seething holobrony, nijichads reign supreme

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529716
why do you think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529507
so this is it for today numbers huh, doubt miko can beat kuzuha while splitting with korone, pekor doing jump king, the only hope is kanata and marine which by the tweet kanata made saying marine got sick and possibly postpone today stream...

[Anonymous No.]

If Vshojo ever holds a free live show on Twitch, how many people do you think will tune in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530775
>Both lost to Roboco
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530665
anon... look up comfi beats
Hell just look up the fucking song titles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530781
man leo is really having a hard time finding new content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530826
Twitch has Raid
Help Vshojo's numbers a lot
But I never see their collabs over 20k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530903
eh.. i thought comfi beats is a reuploader? is it really lilypichu's sub account? kinda weird it got less views than spotify.

[Anonymous No.]

>MikoKoro = 55k
I kneel...

[Anonymous No.]

quick anon, add all the POVs of the R6S tourney and korone/miko collab and find out which one got the most viewers!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530665
Idk this eceleb has 4m monthly listeners. Crazy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528229
Even the nijiEN girls is doing fucking better, what the hell happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530977
It is her account.
The songs have music videos that is obviously Lily's artstyle. And the song channel is linked on her main channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530850
>4 mans collab with top holos
>barely beating a one man zatsudan shitpost
kek, do holobronies really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531121
They do say men are stronger than women. What are you if you can't even beat four petite girls at once?

[Anonymous No.]

Top 5 right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531177
>four petite girls at once
depending on their ages this sounds like kenmochi's wet dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531121
>Whole company tournament
>barely beating a girl showing her new clothes
Same energy

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531121
Roboco's channel is debuff
If they collab on Pekora's channel at least 50k

[Anonymous No.]

Since HoloEN2 is a complete and utter failure, will this discourage future generation from auditioning? This has me hopeful of a Hololess future

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531238
Mikokoro 30k each! Crazy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531301
Weak duo. PekoNoel was better

[Anonymous No.]

>>9525032
>>9525114
>>9525114
Mafumafu is a trendchaser who has failed in just about every endeavor he has strived for. He was a failed Vocaloid producer and after he got booted out of that community he latched onto the next trend, Kpop. He is a lame Kpop femboy reject who so despertly wishes he was Korean. He needs to realize that, no matter how much he wishes to be, that he will never be Korean.

Now he is trendchasing vtubing. Its just one trend to the next with this pathetic fraud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531288
>Since HoloEN2 is a failure
Still 10 times better than nijiEN
One Kronii or Mumei can mog all of them combine

[Anonymous No.]

>Miko still inclining
This surely is cutting close.
>RUN KING, RUN!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531376
i love you mafumafu schizo do you want to skip english class and kiss on the roof

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529292
>Her minecraft numbers are much better than Sana's
Well when you've got the 2 top members of her gen as well as cameo of Gura, it's not hard to have high numbers for that Minecraft stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531476
Image if a "tourney king" in a FPS tourney losing to a baby girl playing getting over it

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531584
She already pulled like 15k by herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529244
Wow, Gura's karaoke streams totally mog Suisei's

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531476
Save us Ayame san

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531476
Miko is already among the royalty and them beating each other on certain days isn't anything surprising. All of them are strong as fuck which is why we call them the royalty.

[Anonymous No.]

>Jun is done!
Stick a fork in it!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531121
>zatsudan shitpost
Try harder shitposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531818
Muda
No one can beat tournament king if he's in tournaments

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531856
How can we save Jun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532001
can't save him he will be in the streets pekora will be forcefully arrange married to kuzuha change her last name into lagusa and forced to do apex streams forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531856
King is losing to a valorant tournament watchalong…

[Anonymous No.]

The amount of NT superchat ayame get is crazy, i think only kanae is getting more then her

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531956
>Jump King Pekora
Seems like an endurance. Your days are outnumbered, king.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532137
knock on wood please we don't need another kuzuha channel valorant spam arc

[Anonymous No.]

If leech angel doesn't beat Kuzuha she should just graduate. She has Marine with her, no excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

Not good enough to challenge the king but MiKorone:
>I KNEEL!
IT's been a long time since I saw a multiPOV collab have two people nearing 30k

[Anonymous No.]

The power of gachashit...

[Anonymous No.]

Holo isn't Nijisanji where they all funnel into one stream, They get 10-20k across 3-4 people which Niji can't do so Kuzuha ends with some ridiculously high numbers.
The King might be eating good but the people under him are starving.

[Anonymous No.]

you guys just buffed Kuzuha, he just clutched the match. Impressive since his team was supposedly the weakest out of the four.

Also, some numbers: Kuzuha's team already secured 3 million yen prize, will get another 3 million if they win the last match.

[Anonymous No.]

If leech vampire doesn't beat the angel he should just graduate. He has tourney with him, no excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532565
How is Korone getting so many viewers lately? I thought she was a midget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532621
>The King might be eating good but the people under him are starving.
That's not true for today. Mito,. Ibra and Kanae can hold their own weight and today, despite the good showing by Hololive, was a weak day in general so far.with 10k getting you as high as #12
>pic related

Not the final score for the day but unless Kanata overperform massively there won't be much change

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532621
No one cares about the rest of niji
just look at leo

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532621
That's not how it works. Kuzuha has a different fanbase and I'm sure most Nijisanji fans aren't interested in R6S.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532640
>Korone
>midget
This is why numberfags are retards only watch numbers don't watch streams
If Korone stops playing debuff games she will always be top holos
Look at all the collabs ,Korone always gets big numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532754
Watchalong nonetheless, that's a very strong showing by Gura mama

[Anonymous No.]

Why does this thread suddenly include normal JP streamers as well? They are not exactly vtuber related anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532621
when i click a kuzuha stream i want to watch and give views to kuzuha not some random. they may be his coworkers and even his friends but they are nothing to me so i have no obligation to give them a view, sub, supa, whichever. why would i do that? pity? feeling like i did something nice? i can donate or volunteer to local organisms instead if i want to make myself feel good about helping someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532761
>If Korone stops playing debuff games she will always be top holos
Anon, stop taking bait, that anon is clearly trying to rile you up and succeeding.

Korone is a retro game specialist, not a generalist. She's not in to attract a huge crowd, she's in to attract the exact crowd that appreciates what she plays and the sponsorship she got from Sega is a demonstration that numbers are not everything, but market fit.

In this thread, tho, big numbers > small numbers so don't get riled up when people shit on chuubas for their numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532750
Two of fubuki's horror harmonica meme streams were not detected it seems. Both of them had a peak around 11.5k.

[Anonymous No.]

FOR FUCK SAKE, is Ayame mounting an outside run?

HOW DOES SHE DO IT? IT'S RING FIT FOR FUCK SAKE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532854
I'll likely just add them manually when JST clock rolls over

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532859
Precisely because it's Ayame doing Ring Fit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532859
Meanwhile, the Marine-Kanata Wario collab is doing piss-poor numbers wise. Doesn't make sense. Did Cover fuck up and redirected their view bots to the wrong stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533032
>26k is bad.
You're an absolute spacker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533032
>view bots
They are not niji anon...
It's because they collab on Kanata's channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>9529282
Being associated with Melody hurts them as a company because advertisers don’t want a porn star associated with them.
The thing is while going viral helped Melody and the Vshojo girls individually, it means everyone knows who she is and what she did.

[Anonymous No.]

>K-King ....
MAAAASAKA!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9531956
Whos gonna tell the nijinigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533195
This doesnt make much sense to me, american entertainment is filled with this kind of shit. Hell look at the music industry, its more porn than music.
Im glad it doesnt happen though, vshojo is not the direction i want to see vtubers go to

[Anonymous No.]

>Today's top 10 will be 9 Holos and 1 niji
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532790
Because of NUMBERS.

[Anonymous No.]

Ayame's number makes no fucking sense. Am I supposed to believe that she's more popular than Kanata and Marine combined?

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/lFQW5S_xH1o

This actually got to 1m in 3 weeks. So they just need to do covers of popular id songs, not sure how copyright work on that front.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533394
Kanata's channel makes it a slight debuff. They'd probably hit 30k easily if on Marine's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533394
???, people wants to jack off while hearing to her panting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533431
It's a national song m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533309
There’s a very fine line.
You can be as sexual as you want, do as much coomer bait as you want. But the moment you do actual porn, you get ostracized.
It’s similar in Japan from what I’ve seen.
>>9533394
Ayame has always been very popular and she’s doing RFA which is coomer bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532859
Truly the strongest of gen2, sasuga ojou...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533394
>>9533447
>They'd probably hit 30k easily if on Marine's.
You know you don't have to speculate about that, right? They've got 42k on Marine's channeru

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>>9532793
So much this. Why would we care about his coworkers? They're all leeches anyway. Of course, I'll try to watch as many Holo streams as I can cause they're awesome and fuck Nijis. Hell, if I'm going to watch Kazuha, I'd rather watch clips to deny him of his views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533394
>Ayame
>Known for cute giggles and noises
>RFA
>Known for making female make lewd noises
I wonder why...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533309
>This doesnt make much sense to me, american entertainment is filled with this kind of shit.
No it's not.
>>9533498
>You can be as sexual as you want, do as much coomer bait as you want. But the moment you do actual porn, you get ostracized.
It's not even that. Kim Kardashian and before her, Paris Hilton and Pamela Anderson did just that
>uops, our sex tape leaked! Oh, well, better capitalize on that, sell the rights and branch out

It is not just being associated with porn, it is willingly advertising yourself as a sex worker.
Video clip thots, instagram and twitch thots (that don't have a onlyfans side business), fitness thots, they are all peddlers of content at very least as sexual as Projekt Melody
>but they pretend it is either wardrobe malfunction, art, health and wellness or being a liberated woman
You can show as much skin and be as lewd as you want and approach sexual themes as boldly as you can (see: Haachama, Noel, Marine) but if you say
>I'm a sex worker and proud
that's the line that gets you blackballed.

Bottom line is: you can sell sex all you want, you just can't be upfront and call it sex

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the first time an Hololive En talent failed to sustain atleast 1k viewers

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>>9533573
sounds unnecessarily petty but good for you i guess? if i'm interested in a stream i'll click it regardless of who it is or what organization they're from, i just don't feel like forcing myself to watch people just because they're related to kuzuha in some way and i like watching him. that's dumb.

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>>9533778
I'm not sure of other watchalongs had this poor of a performance but likely yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533778
the watchalong already ended

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533778
movies over so some have already left but yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533778
Petra 2.0

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>>9533793
>i just don't feel like forcing myself to watch people
People don't do that, they're roped into doing it
>Marine is doing a collab with Kanata on her channel, let's watch it
>Oh, she's actually entertaining, let's see what is in her VODs
>fuuuuuuck, I love her undertale fail run, she's cute too, I think I'll just subscribe and see what she streams next
>Kanata is my new oshi
Box pushing works because of the individual strengths of the streamers keeps an audience they share between them

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533778
The movie ended retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533778
Saved for the future ty anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533891
obviously nobody is forced to watch hololive and people get into them because they're fun and it's easy to discover new girls through interactions. it's just that
>The King might be eating good but the people under him are starving
comment had me confused. what am i supposed to feel about that? bad or something? kuzuha is doing good so i feel great actually. the others aren't even doing so bad but i know smaller numbers aren't usually on topic in here so i'll leave it at that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9524072
>sana and rrat going on jp primetime
>So another 3k for sana and Bae is a watchalong so doesnt matter
Was right.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/phGHz9PC2s8
Weekly new songs (8/30-9/5)
4.23M vs 0.62M is kinda bully

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533778
>Numberfagging a watch along
Do nijiniggers really?
I wonder if nijiEN can break double digit if they do watch along

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534127
do they even do watchalongs?
they are scared even from unarchived karaokes

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>>9534059
>it's just that
>>The King might be eating good but the people under him are starving
>comment had me confused. what am i supposed to feel about that?
ANGRY, BAFFLED, CONFUSED AND THROWING EPILETIC FITS!

Seriously, stop replying seriously to clear shitpost

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>>9533394
> Am I supposed to believe that she's more popular than Kanata and Marine combined?
yes, you are
(stronger than kanata channel collab, but not marine`s channel collab)

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>>9534105
both sana dn rrat have a floor of 3k with the debuffest of all content, sana is doing warior ware tonight also.
Watchalong are pointelss to numberfag unless they are a acollab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534127
Some Niji tend to be focused on finding low HoloEN2 numbers, not whether or not there are explanations for them, or whether they are still higher than NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534353
High numbers > Low numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>it will be just Kuzuha and a bunch of thots underneath him today
BE GONE THOTS
Specially Ayame. Fuck you whore. Your paypig cuck fans are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

So, what was rrat's talent again? Why did Cover waste a good model on her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534448
??? VShojo fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534405
What does that say about NijiEN then?

[Anonymous No.]

It just seems funny how many of these people in here love to find the tiniest reason to pull down Hololive, especially EN2. Like, at the end of the day, they are not going anywhere at least so keep seethinf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534489
well you see, if we use these coping mechanisms and account for Hololive buff, NijiEN is actually doing better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534564
>especially EN2
Because they blame EN2 for the lower NijiEN numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534564
how long until we start numberfagging how much shitposts our oshi gets in this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534583
If you calculate the ratio between CCV, subs, people on this board threads badmouthing, add the initials for each member and then throw all the numbers away and simply pick your favorites NijiEN is way ahead of HoloEN!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534489
That they're midgets, there's a reason people make fun of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534448
Enjoy your victory today, king
There is no tournament tomorrow!

[Anonymous No.]

did holostats die for a few hours yesterday? would fucking suck if it went down as well leaving us with one less numberfagging tool

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534685
>midgets
holoen2 are midgets
nijien are lower than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534810
>did holostats die for a few hours yesterday
Yes

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>>9534489
The problem they have is that they never expanded beyond the 6k CCV ceiling as a group. They overlap and share the same viewers so they just eat each other.
HoloEN is in the situation where fans who wouldn’t be watching otherwise are tuning into the new talents now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534857
>Kronii & Mumei
>midgets
Rumao

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>>9533394
Ayame always gets disproportionately high viewership if she's streaming after a period of inactivity, since she basically streamed 3 times in the last 2 weeks people go to her stream. If she ever goes back to streaming more regularly I expect her viewership to normalize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534950
>NijiEN
6 talents
>HoloEN
11talents

>Talk about overlapping
kek

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>>9534997
>high viewership if she's streaming after a period of inactivity
is this a thing or not? because last time i said this about someone else i was told it isn't a thing, yet this is how it seemingly works for ayame and kenmochi. does it depend on the chuuba?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534794
Not yet... there's still the Nijis Degraded League of Legends Tournament!

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>>9535049
6 talents and they all decide to stream at the same time. Add in 4 more from the next wave and I wouldn’t doubt that they decide to stream at the same time as well.

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>>9534462
She's supposed to do well on 1-to-1 EN/JP collabs apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535064
Idk about Ayame, but if >>9534997 is correct then
Kenmochi is more active than her.

[Anonymous No.]

Here is something interesting that's happening with Hololive, here is all their streams tracked by Holostats

>27351/35140 :: Ayame
>24956/32982 :: Miko
>21594/29938 :: Korone
>20266/26124 :: Kanata
>13836/25696 :: Suisei
>20169/25152 :: Pekora
>9283/13658 :: Aqua
>6660/11710 :: Fubuki
>6422/11375 :: Fubuki
>9182/11153 :: Shion
>7337/10214 :: Watame
>6024/10042 :: Noel
>7950/9699 :: Nene
>6590/9401 :: Fauna
>7746/9357 :: Ina'nis
>5866/7918 :: Haato
>5676/7683 :: Kronii
>6003/7298 :: Calliope
>5636/6944 :: IRyS
>5162/6730 :: Amelia
>4252/6471 :: Luna
>5582/6349 :: Okayu
>4938/6055 :: Fubuki
>4243/5122 :: Flare
>3314/4214 :: Botan
>2854/3787 :: Ollie
>2743/3460 :: Sana
>2476/2980 :: Polka
>1908/2680 :: Aki
>1849/2252 :: AZKi
>944/1239 :: Reine
>309/444 :: Anya
>282/413 :: Reine

The median of the averages is 5866, median of the peaks is 7683. And yet, there are six streams peaking above 25k and then the rest peaks below 13k and averages below 10k.

My theory is that the girls are getting smarter with the whole "box pushing" thing and sharing the audience in collabs like today's MiKorone, or yesterday's on Roboco channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535151
her japanese is really good and you can see plenty of jops on er chat.
Still need to see how council does after collab ban

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still seething at that Ayame number. Fucking whore. Only Pekora should be able to compete with Kuzuha. She's disturbing the balance.

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>>9535064
I think it was more of an Ayame thing, although i think it also happened with Shion after her long break, now that she streams more frequently her viewership is more normalised, with a slight increase as is usual after a member returns from a break

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>>9532807
People really underestimate fitting a sponsor to a talent and are confused when Luna or Kiara get sponsorships ahead of other Holos who have “better numbers”. The granularity of the data Cover uses to sell sponsorships would be orders or magnitude more detailed than the baseless flailing here.

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>>9534950
>>9535049
He's not wrong tho, NijiEN is DUMB AS FUCK with the whole "overlapping" thing. It's not just that they were overlapping, they were
>collab overlapping
That's so dumb because it negates any benefit of having guests in your channel, if you are splitting your audience between your own peers

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>>9535332
That’s why the scarlet nexus sponsorship was such a disaster. Mori and Gura clearly weren’t interested in the game (unlike Kiara who was hyped).
They went for biggest numbers, there was a large turnout only to see the streamers disappointed.
Not to mention they didn’t even get to keep the Xbox unlike Kiara who was gifted a PS5 to keep from her Tales of sponsorship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535334
you don't get, anon... niji is supposed to be more FREE and not policing their talent which a black company would do.

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>>9535332
Hold on, you mean to say that the EN talent that's known to play jRPGs might be a good fit for a jRPG sponsorship for the EN audience?
You don't say?
Next you're going to tell me that sponsorships from a drawing tablet company should go to Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9533900
Still the first time that someone has dropped bellow 1k

[Anonymous No.]

>2view
>Stream up for ten minutes
>More likes than viewers
Always cracks me up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GducOvMa_OQ
Also janny applications are open if you guys care

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535415
There’s some truth to the mantra all publicity is good publicity. Pure exposure to the largest number of eyeballs possible works pretty well a lot of the time, but for niche interests you have to court opinion leaders/targeted demos more. Hopefully KFP hammers her referral link the marketing types love that type of direct conversion metrics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535489
any exist tough

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>>9533394
The rescheduling of the collab definitely affected it, since it moved away from their usual timeslot and clashed with both ayame and mikkorone

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535517
Not in HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

Top10 today

[Anonymous No.]

>>9528812
Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535713
>the King and his harem

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535713
>1 niji
>9 holo
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535334
NijiEN has only been streaming at same time as an attempt to bring viewers back who had left, by trying to generate interest again. In that case, it’s not about numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535713
Hololive keeps winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535161
>Kenmochi is more active than ayame
no he`s not lol
>Kenmochi: 2 streams in last 2 weeks
>Ayame: 3 streams in last 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535812
>as an attempt to bring viewers back who had left
>In that case, it’s not about numbers.
That doesn't even make sense! How not spreading out a little bit and limiting the streaming time prevents them from doing the same thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535713
all of those cope replies kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535332
weaker performers also cost less for sponsorships. Theyd be spending 5x or more if they had picked gura instead of kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535689
It did, but the shitposters didn't get to screenshot it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535713
Added #11 and #12 to show the "Kuzuha moat"

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536173
Cover also does a thing where they bundle a high performer with a low performer for sponsorships. Especially for VARK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536313
>Especially for VARK.
No they don't you fucking idiot, Why do you talk about Holo when you have no knowledge of it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9530078
Not to mention Miko's twitch watch alongs have been a massive success and those are primarily western movies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536258
>Here comes Rushia #11

[Anonymous No.]

>>9535713
HoloJP: 31 members, 8 spots.
HoloEN: 11 members, 1 spot.
NijiJP: 104 members, 1 spot.

If Gura or Kuzuha didn't stream...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9532790
Literal shitposting, anon. Please read the manual before operating the basket weaver machine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536538
>HoloJP: 31 members, 8 spots.
>HoloEN: 11 members, 1 spot.
>NijiJP: 104 members, 1 spot.
>If Gura or Kuzuha didn't stream...
1. VTubers are more popular in JP.
2. Females are more popular than males.

[Anonymous No.]

KING might reach 5 M less than 10 days(12:00 pm JST )

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536509
Too late for midnight JST

[Anonymous No.]

>>9534794
There's in fact one the day after tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536874
>the day after tomorrow
>Sep 12
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536956
he'll obviously get mogged but his numbers won't be lower than usual because there is no overlap between his audience and myth's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536956
TBF....that's the 13th in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536956
Yes? I'm talking about Nijisanji Pokemon Unite Tournament.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536874
That day HoloEN1 anniversary collab will happen as well. I think it will be close if Nijis decide to funnel views into kuzuha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9537096
>>9537030

[Anonymous No.]

>>9536956
>>9537012 (Me)
actually i'm retarded and can't read those two things won't even happen at the same time, doesn't matter at all

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, let's have a less shitposty thread next, now that blatant bait isn't going to be the next OP.