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It was changed from kanji to katakana.
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1432984323490148353?s=21

>> No.9047136

great thread

>> No.9047147

>>9047086
Her kanji has meaning beautiful voice..
Kek King cover was so bad they decided to change it to katakana.

>> No.9047180

>>9047147
I believe.

>> No.9047182

>>9047086
>"""HoloEN"""
>It's all in fucking japanese
Thanks Cover.

>> No.9047224

>>9047086
It was probably changed for more discoverability on social media sites and even on Spotify

>> No.9047284

>>9047086
First it was Sana as their first POC representative vtuber. Then Omega Alpha as their LGBTQ representative. Now we get this. Do they really need to do all these just to appease the western audiences?

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>>9047284

>> No.9047379

>>9047284
>Omega Alpha as their LGBTQ representative
this is like calling a minotaur a historical furry rep because hes a fucking animal man hybrid

>> No.9047408

>>9047182
Amebro...

>> No.9047410

>>9047284
All managers are men until proven otherwise.

>> No.9047415

>>9047284
because western audiences can read katakana any more than they can read kanji, retard

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>>9047147
King by Kanaria?

More like

Changed to Katakana!

>> No.9047485

>>9047415
You can learn to read katakana in like a couple hours. Kanji takes forever even when you try.

>> No.9047506

>>9047419
good one

>> No.9047517

>>9047410
This, i wouldn't trust a woman to manage shit if i were a top dog, even secretaries got old and busted by cellphones and PCs.

>> No.9047542

>>9047410
I think he claims to be "no gender" specifically to avoid upsetting schizos.

>> No.9047552

>>9047485
>You can learn to read katakana in like a couple hours.
No way you remember all of it in a few hours, katakana seems way harder to remember than hiragana to me. Haven't actually tried though so who knows.

>> No.9047555

Do you niggers ever get bored of making massive deals out of literally nothing? Why not just watch streams instead?

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>>9047147

>> No.9047621

>>9047555
What? Take meds

>> No.9047651

>>9047552
It's really easy with mnemonics. Katakana and hiragana are very straight forward and intuitive.
I've not gotten any further than that with my nip reps, though.

>> No.9047696

>>9047552
I got all of Katakana in 3ish days, while Hiragana took me a full week. Probably helped that a lot of the pairs look similar/are the exact same + me getting used to non Latin characters.

>> No.9047780

>>9047086
Checks out, this is the company whose CEO underwent a name change because a fellow nip couldn't read the kanji right, so youd expect a little more kanji sensitivity from them.

My only worry is that they might the change Ina's kanji which would be a shame because it's a great fucking pun.

>> No.9047795

>>9047410
>We're timelooping so hard that people forgot the Mel fiasco

>> No.9048586

>>9047780
>this is the company whose CEO underwent a name change because a fellow nip couldn't read the kanji right
Source?

>> No.9048596

>>9048586
Yagoo's name when read correctly is supposed to be Tanigo

>> No.9048620

>>9047086
Eww lame
>>9047147
Kek
t.deadbeat

>> No.9048660

>they changed it because Mori can't read her own name

>> No.9048720

Well it's a new ateji so there's no way that a nip seing this name for the first time could read it
Names like these are cringe
I think people there tend to dislike parents coining ateji names for their kids as it is seen as chuuni and cringe
hence the name change
you get me

>> No.9048742

>>9048596
no way! holy shit...

that explains everything

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>>9047147

>> No.9048771

Kanji is just retarded. It's a system where you can write something but pronounce it completely differently. The kanji for Calliope is almost always read as Bisei. The only way you would know it was pronounced Calliope is if someone told you, there are a lot of chinese that think her name is Mori Bisei.

>> No.9048773

>>9047086
>Calliope's name changed from Kariope to Kariope.
S-s-sugoi.

>> No.9048820

>>9047780
>My only worry is that they might the change Ina's kanji which would be a shame because it's a great fucking pun.
I don't think writing Inanis in katakana would break the pun, or I'm missing something.

>> No.9048891

>>9048820
The kanji for Ninomae is 一, the kanji for "One", because Ninomae means "Before Two" (二の前).

>> No.9048929

>>9048891
ina's name is written as 一伊那尓栖 in kanji though, am i missing something? https://www.hololive.tv/portfolio/items/ninomae-ina-nis

>> No.9049011

>>9047224
mori truly is a hidden numberfag

>> No.9049028

>>9048891
If Cover keeps "ー" for Ina's surname, like it kept "森" for Mori's surname, the pun would still stand, right? There is nothing in the way Inanis is currently written (one kanji per syllabe) which hints to the correct pronunciation of Ninomae, or I am really missing something?

>> No.9049058

>>9048929
Yeah, yeah, the 一 is Ninomae and the 伊那尓栖 is the Inanis bit. The Ninomae is almost as bad as Calliope's kanji, if not worse, in that it's almost never read that way in real life.

>> No.9049111

>>9048771
Not true for the last part. It’s not Bisei in Chinese. It’s Měi Shēn, which means ‘Beautiful Sound’.

Source: Me, Ching Chong.

>> No.9049126

>>9049111
Thank you Ching Chong

>> No.9049157

>>9049028
The thing is, Mori is indeed a common reading of 森. Ninomae is almost a made up reading of 一 the same way Calliope is an uncommon/made up reading of 美声

>> No.9049189

>>9047147
Koe can be read like that? Fuck this language

>> No.9049264

>>9047086
The only place the kanji was even used was on the website, which they recently did an overhaul of. Mori has had the katakana spelling in her Twitter profile since debut

>> No.9049269

>>9049189
This aspect of Japanese hasn't been too badly abused in my own memory but I do recall one egregious example outside of hololive being Accelerator from the To Aru series, his name is written 一方通行 but the furigana instructs you to read アクセラレータ (Accelerator). I dont know how much the Japanese truly abuse this nanori aspect of Kanji to just go wild with it, but the fact that ive now seen it thrice is worrying.

>> No.9049289

>>9048771
The sinograms for Calliope (美声) are never read Kariope, according to my dictionary at least, it's NOT a phonetic transcription, it's a calque : "美" ("beautiful") stands for "calli-" ("beautiful", like in "calligraphy" for instance) and "声" ("voice") stands for "-ope" ("voice"). The retarded one here is Cover, not the writing system. It makes me thing of this clip from an anime (something like "When Supernatural Battles Become Commonplace") where the male character is roasted because it gives chuuni-level readings to kanjis.

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>>9047086
I fully support Xer decision for the transition! Im so happy for Cover be inclusive of transgender people.

>> No.9049331 [DELETED] 

>>9049289
>s/me thing/me thing/
>s/it gives/he gives/
I was thinking of this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHd3xfDzTg8

>> No.9049358

>>9049269
It's very common in chuuni shit, still relatively common elsewhere

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>>9047284
take (you)r meds

>> No.9049404

>>9049289
>/it makes me thing/it makes me think/
>/it gives chuuni-level/he gives chuuni-level/
I was thinking of this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHd3xfDzTg8

>> No.9049523

>>9047379
to be fair hes the historical bestiality rep

>> No.9049798

>>9049289
>>9049269
Sounds like a kirakira name
https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%83%8D%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0

>> No.9049837

what's in a name

>> No.9050109

>>9049058
>>9049028
The difference is that the Ninomae thing is known goroawase, while phonetic Kanji is a mess nobody uses outside of Chinkland.

>> No.9050243

>>9047147
based

>> No.9050522

>>9049269
>一方通行 becomes accelerator
OOF

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>>9049269

>> No.9051926

>>9049358
Yeah. Light from Death Note's name kanji is literally 月

>> No.9052208

>>9048596
He didn't actually change his name to Yagoo.

>> No.9054299

>>9048586
Yagoo's name in reality is Tanigox Motoaki, but our lovely duck mistakenly read it as Yagoo.

>> No.9054907

>>9052208
he should, tanigox is a weak salaryman's name, yagoo exudes power

>> No.9054930

>>9047086
She obviously doing it to scam welfare.

>> No.9055013

>>9054907
I approb

>> No.9056952

>>9047542
It upsets me more
t. schizo

>> No.9057000

>>9047086
>they have to make this kind of legal statement

holy fuck bureaucratic cover, is you lawyer didn't have any work or what

>> No.9057010

>>9048596
>>9054299
I thought it was an official name change not the meme.

>> No.9058341

>>9049798
This is so stupid, looks like what that AI reddit big chungus guy (not saying his name) did to his son.

>> No.9058860

>>9047086
Wait a minute. Her name is often pronounced Kollaiopi or Kallaiapi, but the new kana spells Kaliope with a single L. The English romanization is confirmed to be incorrect now. It appears her name is actually pronounced with a similar pitch as "jackalope" or "cantaloupe."

>>9049111
Sen Mei Shen (jp: vocally beautiful forest) is unironically a cooler name than Moli Kaliope/Forest Caliope. Maybe they should've just romanized the Chinese reading. The government may be communist, but the words themself aren't.

Forest Caliope...well, whatever. From now on I'm calling her Forest, Kaliope, or just Mei Shen when I'm feeling respectful. Because at this point calling her by her chin name is the most flattering response to updated canon.

>> No.9061944

>>9049189
No, but the Greek name Calliope means ‘beautiful voice’ so they just wrote that in kanji originally.

>> No.9061981

>>9047415
western audiences can read fucking english more than they can read katakana, retard.

>> No.9062250

>>9048660
This, unironically. She never bothered writing it in anything but katakana right from the start.

>> No.9063280

>>9047147
even without the king cover, clearly they realized that calling her "beautiful voice" was a bad joke.

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>>9047147

>> No.9064808

>>9047419
kek

>> No.9064874

>>9054930
sasuga 日本のニガー

>> No.9065104

>>9047086
THEY ARE DESTROYING THE HOLOLIVE WE LOVE, NEXT THING THEY WILL MAKE GURA CHANGE HER NAME TO SAME GURA

>> No.9066029

>>9050109
So you don't like the second half of Ina's name?
The Inanis is written phonetically in Kanji, but it seems more like it is intended to evoke ancient japanese than Chinese.
I just like that her name is Japanese, written in Chinese, phonetically spelling ancient Latin.

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>>9049111
>beautiful sound
>Mori's face when deadbraps catch wind of this

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>>9062250
I said that to troll, in a 'haha Mori stoopid, doesn't know japanese' way, but now I have the context, and know that it's actually the japanese who couldn't read it because it literally doesn't mean 'Calliope' at all, I have to wonder how it even got okayed.

>> No.9071074

Is this the final yab every single rrat was talking about for so long?

>> No.9071315

they finally accepted that her voice isn't beautiful

>> No.9071533

>>9049269
the whole "kanji is read as an english word" is a different thing, they're not giving the english reading as a way to read the kanji, but telling people that are reading that the english word being used means whatever the kanji means. it's like a character being called "chaos" and then it's written as "混沌". accelerator's case is kinda stupid cause 一方通行 doesn't mean accelerator lmao

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