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why the fuck is she not doing drawign streams? It's literally her only selling point at this stage. Could have easily snagged some of the artfags from Ina,but she refuses to do so. What is she thinking.

>> No.9004508

Part of her contract not to steal Ina's market share

>> No.9004553 [DELETED] 

On of the rules the nepotism gook set to allow her in (via nepotism) was that she wasn't allowed to compete with her via art streams.

>> No.9004570

it's so fucking annoying cause she is just as good if not better than Ina. What a moron

>> No.9004622

>>9004477
because drawing streams are boring

>> No.9004633

>>9004477
corporate stuff, I guess
Ina is THE art chuuba of HoloEN or maybe Holo in general, that would seriously cut her numbers and she has one of the most devoted fanbases
Also she's Ina's friend afaik so that would make sense that she doesn't want to fuck her up

>> No.9004648

>>9004477
They are waiting for ban lift so that first collab is between her and Ina with a drawing competition.

>> No.9004734

>>9004477
She’s a pretty good gamer too, along with artist. Her only real issue is trying a bad time-slot for US IMO.

>> No.9004742
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9004742

>joined hololive simply to have fun
>doesn't give a shit about numbers
>doesn't worry about impressing everyone
>is enthusiastic and charming on every stream regardless of the game she's playing because she's simply having a good time
I'm simply thinking she's based in a way that breaks /vt/'s mind

>> No.9004760

>>9004622
they can be boring,but they bring in consistent audience. Her weir debuff games aren't helping her

>> No.9004855

>>9004742
>joined hololive simply to have fun
>doesn't give a shit about numbers
I would be SO relieved if this was true. I sincerely hope it is the case. Is it even possible though, not to compare yourself to your most immediate peers when there are such clear numerical ways to compare success and engagement?

>> No.9004861

>>9004760
The only real debuff was streaming in a timeslot directly opposing the one she streamed the most in during her first week. Also during a lot of these she was overlapping with Gura and Ame. I think it's good that she's building her core, loyal fanbase right off the bat, in my opinion.

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>>9004742
based chuuba, based opinion

>> No.9004885

>>9004742
/vt/ will never understand pure blissful fun because it's all about numbers here
https://streamable.com/4cpc1a

>> No.9004910

>>9004855
She seams like someone who actually watchs vtubers in her free time, so being one is probably a dream come true already

>> No.9004915

>>9004855
It must definitely be in the back of her mind, it's just human nature to instinctively compare yourself to others. The catch is whether it lets it get to her and so far she's shown the complete opposite.

>> No.9004986

>>9004742
do you honestly believe a single chuuba joined hololive for fun? are you really that retarded?

>> No.9005372

>>9004986
I absolutely do yes.
Especially when a few of them were rich as fuck and also with high paying jobs before joining.

>> No.9005427

>>9004986
Noel never needed to join Hololive. She's probably not the only one.

>> No.9005458

>>9004881
Woah! This girl looks so cool!!!

>> No.9005462

>>9004742
based and CHADpilled Sana

>> No.9005485

>>9004622
>>9004760

Reminder that almost 300k people tuned in to watch Mumei copying a photo of a peacock over 2 hours. I think Sana art stream would do well, even if she draws slower than Ina.

>> No.9005491

>>9004986
not everybody is a poor fuck like you.

>> No.9005622

>>9004742
Hololive is a business

>> No.9005657

>>9004622
Being the 100th chuuba to play Soma probably is worse.

>> No.9005716

>>9004986
Ina and Sana both have very successful art careers. Kronii probably was getting a good number of indie game VA spots and could probably could have gotten a big break if she kept going, even without Hololive. Botan was a pretty successful commentator in the Japanese esports scene and definitely could have pursued a different kind of media career if she wanted to.

This isn't even mentioning the ones who are still young and will just marry some salaryman someday.

>> No.9005743

>>9004633
That's not how a fanbase works at all. I watch Ina because she's Ina, and even though I would definitely tune in if Sana ever held art streams, I will still stick to Ina.
>Also she's Ina's friend afaik so that would make sense that she doesn't want to fuck her up
I know these are autists' thoughts but if Sana ever has that thought, then she's an arrogant little fuck (which is obviously not true bc she's Ina's best friend irl).

>> No.9005811

>>9004986
Ina literally said that she auditioned on a whim because she was overwhelmed with art stuff atm and thought HL would be a nice change.

>> No.9005825

>>9005622
Yes, and? They still get plenty of money from less popular vtubers and don't pressure them to increase their numbers.

>> No.9005885

>Perform lower than your mates
>Numberfags shit on you and call you useless
>Perform higher than the rest
>Numberfags throw your name around to win petty arguments
They are pure venom.

>> No.9006054

>>9005743
It’s dumb to even think they’re competing if they both do art, because they don’t even stream at the same time. People can watch both.

>> No.9006153

>>9005885
Numberfags never really gloat over higher Sana numbers. When she did get some higher numbers, the only thing I seen was some threads that assumed they had to be bots. Granted the guy was an idiot, but it happened. I guess some may have responded with some numbers in response, but not as a general thing to be proud of.

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>>9004742
Pretty much. She tried her very first serious first person game and horror game today, and away from the better timeslot that gave her high viewership just so she can have more fun playing an horror game during the night, which fucking mindbroke numberfags into sperging out about it. Sana is really fun to watch and will do great as a streamer as long she finds joy in it.

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9006453

Numberfags are full of shit and never have good intentions, they want others to worry about numbers so they can feel that they have power over people. When they find that girl that actually stress over numbers, that's when they show their true colors as they start harassing her and her fans non-stop.

It doesn't matter for them, if the girl cares, they shitpost, if she doesn't, they shitpost. The only winning move is calling them the shallow pathetic faggots they are and enjoy your entertainment because luckly for you, you don't need the validation of random anonymous people to feel enjoyment.

>> No.9006556

>>9004477
>be artist
>get in because artist
>do no art after becoming a chuba
Hololive EN

>> No.9006635

>>9006556
Literally the only reason we know she's an artist is because of roommate shit, she never sold herself as an artist on debut

>> No.9006702

>>9004742
its still too early for us to see her crying about numbers, anon

>> No.9006796

She might now enjoy drawing in front of others is my only guess.

It can be weird having a few thousand schizos judging you while you're having a mental break about symmetry.

And if you draw for a career, your relationship with your art can get exhausting.

>> No.9006879

>>9004855
Yes. Just look at Korone.

>> No.9006982

>>9006702
she kinda already showed indifference towards her numbers
https://youtu.be/32qr8wO1mV4?t=8900

>> No.9007039

>>9004742
Just a reminder, corporate vtubers never do things that are meant to be directly in support or against the zeitgeist of /vt/ as a whole. >We are not that important.

>> No.9007086

>>9007039
That's true, but nobody said that.

>> No.9007131

>>9004477
>why is she not doing exactly what I want, why does everyone else not think like I do about everything and have everything she does that isn't that?
neck (you)rself.
>>9004986
not everyone is a reject incapable of enjoying things like (you), anon.

>> No.9007163

>>9004477
She was going to but then Ina reminded her not to bite that hand that feeds and if she started stepping into her turf too soon that video of her sucking dick in the bathroom of that one animecon was gonna mysteriously end up online.

>> No.9007935

>>9004570
there's better artist in the world then Ina? doubtful.

>> No.9008170

>>9007935
nah sana is a legit professional, she's better than ina. She's doing the official art for hololive now

>> No.9008311

>>9004986
Your poor soul. The fact you can't understand that people can do things out of passion and enjoyment says a lot about you.

>> No.9008358

>>9006453
based as fuck

>> No.9008453

>>9008170
Let's not compare the two good friends. They're both in the same ballpark imo, just with slightly different styles.

>> No.9008493

>>9007935
she has her art in fgo and shit, Ina has too,but i would argue that Sana's art is cuter and her characters don't all look the same like Ina's does

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>>9004477
Silly anon, have you considered the backlog that stacked up in her years of art? Try counting the amount of pre-Sana arts that took the maximum amount of time to make.

>> No.9009827

>>9004570
Her artstyle is cute, but she is nowhere near as good as Ina. Her proportions are fucked up, and Ina has a better grasp on perspective.

>> No.9009888

>>9004477
I mean, she might in the future, but for now, I will guess she wants to focus on another type of content and only do art when collabing, adter all, drawing seems to be more for Mumei.

It's like nene and Ollie can draw good as well, but they just choose not to make it their main stream topic

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>>9004477
>Could have easily snagged some of the artfags from Ina
You don't do dirty someone you slept with before unless he's/she's a whore.

>> No.9010125

This board cares about everything more than Sana herself, you can tell she's enjoying it so far. No point in pushing anything, we know collabs will be legendary.

>> No.9010135

>>9004622
No they’re not, they’re nice and cozy.

>> No.9010153

>>9004477
That she didn't want to become a streamer for the sake of doing art streams. If anything her schedules have shown a proclivity towards videogame playing and that appears to be the audience she wants to cultivate.

That doesn't put art streams off the table but there could be many reasons for their ommission.
Maybe she's concerned that art streams would produce a lot of dead air and she's more focused on cultivating a connection with an audience first so she can better play off their interactions?
Maybe she's saving them for membership streams?
Maybe she's trying to avoid tribalism by people making comparisons between her and her friend or at least establishing herself so she's on better footing first.
Maybe she's in the same situation that Ina is in that she doesn't rely on the Hololive gig for income but as an outlet for her other interests, and whereas Ina's is using it as a platform to inspire artists and making friends, Sana's may be more about in spreading her love of games and astrology.
I've liked her streams so far and so I'm not particularly bothered. If she wants to do them then she will but if she feels obligated to do so, either by management or her fanbase, then it'll likely lack the enthusiasm and energy that are a big part of why I enjoy what she's doing now.

>> No.9010409

>>9004477
>Not selling herself as the artist of the PV illustration
>No drawing streams
I think she is just trying to avoid to associate her chooba persona to her artist account. Maybe she doesn't want the general HoloEN fanbase lurking around in her artist twitter (like it happened to Ina)

>> No.9010527

>>9008170
Ina is also a "legit professional".

>> No.9011527

>>9009827
She works quicker though and is probably a better speed artist, which is where Ina is (by her own admission) weakest.

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9012525

>>9004986
reps.

>> No.9012607

JUST BECAUSE ART LIVES RENT FREE IN INA'S HEAD TO THE POINT WHERE THAT'S ALL SHE LIVES AND BREATHES DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE SAME FOR EVERY ARTIST. SOME PEOPLE SEE IT AS A JOB. SOME PEOPLE SEE IT AS THE AVERAGE HOBBY.

For fuck's sake maybe she doesn't WANT to stream art. Maybe she doesn't want to be pigeonholed like Ina does to only drawing holos because of permissions garbage that Ina can only bypass with fucking sponsorship shit.

>> No.9012821

>>9005811
Everyone knows thats bullshit. Ina was recommended by a lot of the artists and got in that way. Then management got 4 of the worst applicants so they could make Ina the branch star.
t. EN was a mistake

>> No.9012879

>>9012821
t. not a japanese

>> No.9012922

>>9009827
Ina literally copied Korone and Pekora for gacha shit, but with Ina face

>> No.9013547

>>9004477
Ina put is cutthroat bitch and doesn't want her niche taking away from her by Sana.

>> No.9013585

>>9004477
she is burn out and looking for a reason to do art

>> No.9013680

>>9004477
I spend 5 hours masturbating before my prostate exams. I edge, and edge, and edge, until a butterfly sneezing on my taint could bring me to orgasm. I tactfully shuffle my way down to the doctor's office and when he lubes up I nearly cum every time. But I've trained my keggle muscles enough to the point where I can hold in Mount Vesuvius's wrath. then as soon as he puts the smallest bit of pressure on my prostate | unleash with the fury of a lion hunting it's prey. As the room gets covered in my hot sticky juices the doctor looks on disgusted and leaves the room. I always go to a hospital far away from where I live to get it so that I don't have to go in for surgery under the doctor that | busted to. Best thing is we have free healthcare here, so the doctor gets me off and it's covered by taxpayers. That's my fetish.

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>>9004742
Based beyond belief.

>> No.9013770

>>9004477
My guess is she either draws very slowly and rights guesses it would make for bad streaming content or she doesn't want to bring her normal work into something that is supposed to be a fun diversion for her. Mori is also a semi-professional illustrator and very rarely does drawing streams, the vast majority of which are paywalled.

>> No.9013879

>>9011527
Ina is super fucking quick, what are you even talking about? She even made Pochi look sluggish.

>> No.9014085

>>9013770
Maybe art isn't entirely her passion in the same way. Again with Mori, she wants to do music, even if her highest profile work is animation for music videos and album art of other artists.

>> No.9014180

>>9012922
Jackie was cute though.
Just a shame she is a brawler....and a 4*.

>> No.9014267

>>9004986
Reine

>> No.9014325

dunno why people say retarded shit like a drawing stream would be the same as actual illustration work, its like comparing going for a stroll with an olympic marathon

>> No.9014720

>>9014267
She is literally richer than 99% of the Indonesian population and her job is a streamer.

>> No.9014867

i like the schizo rrat posting here

>> No.9015172

>>9014720
I mean that she joined mostly for fun and friends.

>> No.9015281

>>9004477
I don't even care about the kind of streams that she does, just please, for the sake of god, please tell me why the fuck she consistently streams at the worst possible time for almost all EN audience?

>> No.9015475

>>9004477
She should just play those improv comedy games and use her cultural disposition to be the first actual comedian in hololive.

>> No.9015527

>>9015281
You're thinking of Rat who streams at no EN audience
>Aussies- Good time
> JP- good time
>ID- good time
>Euro- really early to mid morning
>NA East coast- middle of the night to
>NA West coast West coast prime time to middle of the night

>> No.9015867

>>9004855
She said so in her Celeste stream. Forgot the timestamp but it was such a breath of fresh air.

>> No.9016651

>>9004855
>>9015867

>>9006982

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