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Remember when many of the JP chuubas were gonna "learn english"? I member

>> No.8972171

Remember Aqua blowing a hole in the second floor of Shion's house? I member.

>> No.8972238

>>8972067
Didn't Ame say tge same?

>> No.8972241

>>8972067
They had a litreral decade of practice beforehand. JP simply don't want to learn a new langauge bc they're actually all retarded.

>> No.8972273

Kanata promised she'd start, but she never did shit about it

>> No.8972283
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>>8972067
I remember them stumbling through Duolingo exercises with no understanding of English and making no improvements.

>> No.8972305

Good thing they are lazy so that I can't afford to be as much. I couldn't begin reading this sentence a year ago and I can now. Thanks, chuubas.

>> No.8972325

>>8972067
who wouldve known that trends are actually a thing. mindblowing stuff i know

>> No.8972340

>>8972067
lots of people improved significantly.
turns out learning a new language is a serious commitment.
Especially one with so little similarity.
But the cute anime girls struggling to speak english with their cultivated entertaining personalities?
So very cute and inspiring.
We all won

>> No.8972381

>>8972067
Summer is done and school is back in session

>> No.8972438

>>8972067
Nigger you faggots were crying about the EOP pandering and you were told they were throwing throwing EOPs a bone. The only one that took the English learning seriously was Temma.

>> No.8972466

>>8972067
Nijisanji EN, Vshojo, Hololive has 2 English groups now, why would I ever watch some Jap learn broken english?

>> No.8972506
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>>8972067
It's the delusion if Duolingo. It's like going on a diet by switching to diet soda...it's a feel good exercise.

>> No.8972587

>>8972506
especially with the condescending animations

>> No.8972625
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>>8972067
They weren't doing it so they could communicate with foreigners, they were doing it so their JP simps would laugh and clap, and eventually they stopped laughing and clapping.

For what it's worth, Pochi and Tomoshika are both still working on their eigo.

>> No.8972675

>>8972438
I don't know how seriously he takes it in term of actual studies, but Aruran also got better and very quickly. He almost stopped with the english streams, but he has very little trouble understanding and even replying to english superchat and stuff like that. He may just be naturally talented with this and doesn't actually do reps, I can't say.

>> No.8972721

Duolingo is probably one of the worst platform to learn a language, also they didn't want to learn english, they just did a few "study english" stream to pander to the en audience

>> No.8972742

>>8972675
> He may just be naturally talented with this and doesn't actually do reps, I can't say.
It's called being a man. It makes you vastly more intelligent than humans that weren't born men.

>> No.8972839

>>8972067
Most dropped their classes and dualingo streams, but a few vtuber are still learning

Like Moona, Aki, Tenma, Rikka and a few others

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>>8972675
I haven't watched izza papa in a long time, but he always caught me as a genuinely intellectual guy, so that's not surprising.

>>8972742
As it should be.

>> No.8972935

>>8972067
They realized the EOP audience aren't worth it. They'll drop you for the next fad.

>> No.8973007

>>8972675
Temma also improved massively with his english study streams and he did them for like a month or so, guy was seriously dedicated and serious about it, too bad Apex got in the way of him doing them, hope he continues soon...

>> No.8973043

>>8972273
she lives with coco so shes still probably gettin some impromptu lessons regardless here and there

>> No.8973102

>>8972935
Yeah, I’m sure no one over in the promised land has ever shifted allegiances before.

>> No.8973130

there are a lot of indies that stick to language learning even after months

>> No.8973181

>>8972506
>It's like going on a diet by switching to diet soda
there are actual studies that show that actual 0 cal diet soda is just as good as water for losing weight, just obviously in moderation and not as something you should drink during a workoutduolingo is still trash though

>> No.8973290

>>8972067
Remember when Ame and Gura were gonna learn jap?

>> No.8973310

>>8973007
kek, I'm glad I have no interest in even trying this game, shit seems addictive.

>> No.8973338

>>8972067
They were never going to become bilingual and stream English only more than once a year. That was a fever dream.
What they wanted was to be able to understand basic conversational English since they had started getting more English superchats.
For the most part, they followed through on their commitments.

>> No.8973490

>>8972067
as it turns out, learning a language is a lot of work and it takes years to gain conversational fluency

>> No.8973575

>>8972067
I think the only ones i've seen that actually improved their eigo are Pekora, Flare, and Aki. Really suprised by Pekora, guess shes really commited to being the #1 streamer in the world

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>>8972067
those EOPs fell for cheap pandering

>> No.8973616

>>8973575
berybery paafekto engurish

>> No.8973665

>>8973575
Aki is very impressive indeed, Her streams pretty much qualify as bilingual at this point. She's obviously very far from fluent, but speaks a lot of english all the time, due to her audience.

>> No.8974005

>>8973575
flare just uses deepl

>> No.8974424

>>8974005
An improvement from Google Translate!

>> No.8974584

They did learn English. Just not much.

>> No.8974631

>>8972067
Remember when many holos did loli streams? I do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M-vAqNqdwA

>> No.8975328
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What was her problem?

>> No.8975820

>>8972067
thank god they didn't, cry more americuck

>> No.8975998

They figured out EOP schizos weren't worth the effort. Seethe, dilate, etc.

>> No.8976247

>>8972067
It's almost as if learning a new language is actually really difficult to do even for your chuuba gods.

>> No.8976331

>>8975328
she needs a big bed to fit all that woman on, not your tiny tiny smol herbivore bed

>> No.8976361

>>8976247
it's not difficult, they just don't have any reason to do it because they live in a first world country already

>> No.8976367

>>8972067
>pump and dump retarded EOPs for subs
dare I say, based.

>> No.8976511

>>8973007
He seems to be aware that his fans want it, so maybe the English will come back now that he isn't playing Apex

>> No.8976575

>>8973490
>years
It's a couple of months for simple stuff like small talk, but it does need to commit at least an hour a day.

>> No.8976862

>>8972675
>>8972067
Anyone serious about learning isn't going to stream shitty duolingo, they'll get tutors to actually help them. Korone's english is damn good now and a bunch of others are able to read SC's and comments, whether they reply in english is up to them.

>> No.8977027

>>8975328
That one was the funniest one of these streams by far.

>> No.8977095

>>8976862
Most of the girls who went to real tutors ended up dropping them too.

>> No.8978242

>>8975328
She simply stated that she's a fatfuck who needs queen-sized beds

>> No.8978367

>>8973181
>studies funded soda companies
>americans fall for them

>> No.8978661

The ones serious about it will barely bother with Duolingo anyways, it's a shit way to learn a language

>> No.8979704

They learn english but not on duolingo, Marine talked learning english with actual teacher

>> No.8979943

>>8979704
Didn't she pay for some expensive classes and then quit going after a couple lessons?

>> No.8980290

>>8979943
Marine now knows all the words she needs to get white dick

>> No.8980548

>>8972438
Sora was studying before the Duolingo trend... not anymore though.

>> No.8980588

>>8972067
Subaru actually has improved a lot.

>> No.8980735

>>8972067
Uto's English is ridiculously cute.

>> No.8980890

If the 72 iq menhera bear managed to learn english, I don't know what is their excuse.

>> No.8981060
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>>8972283
>Polka's english voice

>> No.8981098

>>8972067
Luna's the only one that was still doing it and improving.

>> No.8981191

Maybe this board needs it's own /djt/. A lot of lazy fucks going around.

>> No.8981268

>>8972067
The only Vtuber I've seen who took it seriously was Uto, but then she stopped streaming consistently anyway.

>> No.8981376

>>8972506

The funny thing is diat sodas actually make you fatter since the non-nutritive chemical sweeteners used in place of sugar disrupt the body's metabolic processes.

>> No.8981457

They were pushed to learn English last year due to EOP explosion, but now with an actual EN branch and most of the EN/ID being able to speak Japanese, there are no incentives left for them to learn. Korone's and Marine's English actually regressed.

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>>8972067
How many times do we have to tell you no one is ever going to learn a language from duolingo? It was only ever cute pandering and everyone was fine with it.

>> No.8981524

>>8981376
Aren't diet sodas for people who can't drink sugar, instead of fat fucks who don't want to drink sugar but also don't want to drink water? No wonder it's not a great water replacement, it was never meant to be.

>> No.8981719

>>8980588
Subaru already knew English to an extent, all she’s done lately is shake off the rust

>> No.8982111

>>8973043
That's not what Coco meant when she told Kanata she'd teach her about her tongue until she's a cunning linguist, anon.

>> No.8982113

>>8973290
Gura can read a bit at least, and she spoke some in her last JP/ID collab too. Ame, uh...

>> No.8982279

>>8982113
Ame will time travel and learn JP from her future self

>> No.8982520

I get the feeling Subaru is still studying, just not on stream.

>> No.8982619

Tenma did his reps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUv0JUz2sAo
Gura and Tenma dead by daylight collab when.

>> No.8982620

I'm still waiting for Mr. Koro's EN collab she promised. Mori doesn't count.

>> No.8982850

It's kinda disappointing that not a single one managed to learn even a little bit of english. Learning a new language is a cool experience even if you don't really need it for your job.

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>>8982113
>Gura can read a bit at least
Gura could somewhat read hiragana which takes all of two days to learn.

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>>8982619

>> No.8983522

>>8981524


No, diet sodas are for people who are cargo-culting. The good that buying and drinking a 'diet' soda provides to someone is the feeling of going through superficial forms or motions of 'healthitude' - but without any substantial relationship with such an object, of course.

>> No.8983975

>>8983522
Are people actually addicted to soda? This seems like such a weird roundabout measure to avoid just quitting soda that only addiction can explain.

>> No.8984069

>>8972067
learning Korean is the new fad now.

>> No.8984434

>>8983522
>bring up cargo-culting in reference to fucking diet soda

Ok pseud

>> No.8984628

>>8981376
>>8973181
Who do I believe??!

>Uploading files from your IP range has been blocked due to abuse

What the fuck? I don't post nsfw shit or anything

>> No.8984804

>>8977095
Soracchi...

>> No.8985547

>>8972067
I can't criticize her for being a hardline linguistic nationalist. Western cancel culture and ching chong commie culture are pozzed as fuck. Japanese need only continue to be bbased. She need only continue speaking Japanese.

>> No.8985792

>>8984434


'Cargo cult' is a term for someone, or group of someones, engaging in activities that bear a superficial relationship with a desired object, but which are ultimately useless for actually bringing about the desired object, or indeed are even antithetical to the desired object.
Someone drinking 'diet' soda because it makes them feel like they are upping their 'diet points' with every chug - while also not actually requiring any major effort or change in behavior - is a perfect example of this.
So yeah suck my dick.

>> No.8986382 [DELETED] 

>>8972067
I don't blame them. Learning a new language takes years and it's difficult. You gotta really immerse yourself in it and WANT to do it. By the time they start to get good they'll be leaving Hololive anyway

>> No.8987968

>>8985792
you don't have to go out of your way to prove his point, you know

>> No.8988186

Like playing Ring Fit once every 2 months and expecting to lose weight

>> No.8988339

>>8980548
Marine literally paid for 6 months of Eigo classes but OSGs told her it was a waste. I think she kept it up because her English has noticeably improved since 2020.

>> No.8988466

Subaru's English continues to improve and that should scare every EOP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UII-aZkUXic

>> No.8988575

>>8988466
why does twitter have to suck so much. my oshi needs to know about my rape fetish

>> No.8988743

So what resources do you recommend for chuubas that REALLY wants to learn anglospeak?

>> No.8990036

>>8972067
>implying that they can't be working on it offstream while doing stuff that actually draws views onstream

>> No.8990042

>>8982619
homobeggar you didn't even spell his name right

>> No.8990117

>>8973181
>artificial sweetener
yeah no. your brain has a tendency to make you give it what it wants when you try to bullshit it.

>> No.8991396

>>8973575
>>8974005
Flare has good pronunciation for stuff she often says at the end of the stream, and can generally understand what the superchats sent to her mean

>> No.8991901

Real talk, Suisei's mom has a college education to be a translator. Why doesn't/didn't she teach her child english?

>> No.8992066

>>8972067
Is there any JP chuuba that manage to actually learn english from english learning stream?

>> No.8992271

>>8992066
Temma and Aruran from Holostars, though to be fair Aru's were more cultural exchanges than actual learning, but he still learned quite a bit from those.

>> No.8992326

>>8981060
>oh, Canada is big

>> No.8992401

>>8988743
Raab C Nesbitt

>> No.8992476

>>8991901
Most English teachers in Japan can barely speak English themselves. That's why one of the few reliable ways foreigners get into the country is as JET teachers, because Japs can't be arsed to actually learn it and would rather pay American weebs poverty wages to single alphabet sings and do monkey dances.

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>>8973181
I mean makes fucking sense, no?
If you're a fat blob that normally drinks 2 litres of coca cola a day but now switched to coca cola zero instead,
then you've just cut 840 calories out of your daily diet.
Just because your diet is unhealthy doesn't mean you can't lose weight on it.
On average you lose weight if you consume less calories than your TDEE and obviously gain weight if you go above your TDEE.

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>>8972067
My oshi has been doing pretty good improving her English though.

>> No.8993173

I'd bet money that the next JP gen has at least one conversational English speaker. Coco was very successful, so I'm sure they're looking to replace her income.

>> No.8993185

>>8980735
Stop watching her a while ago. Did she ever get any better at her english?

>> No.8993235

You reminded me on how Nene tweeted out that EOP's forgot about her.
You gotta do more than just duolingo shit if you wanna keep the eigos, especially with he EN market expanding.

>> No.8993259

>>8982619
Homostars collab beggar right on cue i see

>> No.8993345

>>8982850
Roboco and Subaru have improved a lot

>> No.8993352

>>8972839
Nenechi's progress has been incredible. She likes her overseas husbands a lot.

>> No.8993440

>>8993129
Its actually pretty cute to see roboco’s English improving over time

>> No.8995310
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8995310

Remember when you were going to learn Nihongo?

>> No.8995895

6 overlapping duolingo streams in a day wasn't a dead give-away that management asked them to stream it?

>> No.8995939

>>8993173
Why would they need a JP who speaks English when they have an English branch?

>> No.8996046

>>8972067
Temma got better

>> No.8996092

>>8972067
What's the point when gaijin can just learn Japanese?

>> No.8996102

>Expecting Chuubas to make a full, real commitment to English
>Expecting fluency to ever be the goal ever
>Implying several Chuubas haven't made meaningful improvements in English already

This is how I know you're an EOP

>> No.8996112

>>8972067
Based, fuck EOPs

>> No.8996167

>>8973290
Gura is clearly trying, talk shit as you want, that is the one thing you cannot take from her.

Ame is a different story but instead of her not trying, I feel more inclined to say, some people are naturally difficult to teach them anything.

>> No.8996232

>>8973338
I suspect Korone and Pekora are probably the only ones who genuinely want to try.
Korone for actually wanting to communicate beyond just basic things and Pekora probably more so she can cause more chaos with EN and ID.

>> No.8996281

>>8996232
Add Subaru to this list. She regularly collabs with EN/ID, and has surprisingly good reading ability.

>> No.8996294

>>8996232
>I suspect Korone and Pekora are probably the only ones who genuinely want to try.
They gave up a year ago
Well Pekora didn't even start, she gave up on the idea
Now that there's EN vtubers there's no reason for them to do so

>> No.8996303

>>8993345
Roboco strikes me as the type who wants to know English for gaming sake. For collabs, for voice chat to coordinate, you know the idea.
Subaru, actually, I would add her to Pekora and Korone as the ones who definitely do try for the language sake.

>> No.8997036

>>8972067
Name the last stream in which Korone did not speak any English

>> No.8998849

>>8997036
Korone knowing how to bait EOP fans doesn't mean she's making a real effort to learn english.

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>>8972067
They've realized that the majority of HoloEN can speak Japanese so learning English is not necessary

>> No.8999568

>>8975820
You'll never be Japanese kys

>> No.9007472

>>8972067
Towa tomorrow.

>> No.9008922

>>8981376
I was reading this paper yesterday, kinda obvious in retrospective

>> No.9009007

YOUR
BED
SINGURU

>> No.9009401

>>8982619
Ignoring the collab begging, i am proud of the Knight progress, he clearly did his reps

>> No.9009625

>>8988339
What the fuck is an OSG? If it's the EN speaking fanbase then fuck them. They probably get off to the fantasy of fucking a retard or someone barely able to speak English like shitty yellow fever porn.

>> No.9013732

>>8972067
Ah, good joke.

>> No.9014015

>>8972067
called it. only delusional lazy eop fatfucks expected them to keep learning it for eops

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Wasn't there a thread just yesterday about how you niggers whine about Hakos and Kiara speaking too much japanese? Then why are you bitching now about jp girls not using english you bunch false flagging faggots

>> No.9014769

>>8972067
hololive EN makes it kinda pointless now that eops have their own anime girls to simp for

>> No.9014901

>>8972067
Hey come on some actually do know decent English

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>>8981191

>> No.9015144

>>9015090
Based Astel

>> No.9015223

>>9008922
Link pls.

>> No.9015635

>>8972067
Remember when holo council debuted? Ah the good ol' days

>> No.9015734

Meanwhile Ririsya is actually trying and can read all your comments and understand them.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2NHryusoqg

>> No.9015880

>>9015090
You can ask most people around the world "Can you teach me your language?" and they'd try in some manner. But if you ask Japanese person to teach your their language? Most of the time they go "Oh....ummm...it's really hard, even for us. Sorry." They have a needlessly difficult language and stick to it because of tradition and all that crap.

>> No.9016089

This is why pochi is the best. She's stuck to it and her English is pretty solid all things considered.

>> No.9016128

>>9016089
pochi? more like poopi lmao

>> No.9016134

>>9016089
Her and "Not son" (Lenri). I'd be surprised if they actually learned another language on top of that.

>> No.9016195

>>8992271
that's all what language learning is, screw grammatical rules just have fun

>> No.9016906

There isn't any reason for the girls to learn English, but I hope Temma does. He took the language seriously and enjoyed having actual conversations with the EOPs his chat. That shit was kino

>> No.9018020

>>8976862
>getting tutors to learn english
this is as good as trying to learn through duolingo

>> No.9018637

To...TOWA!?!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdHdJNHY77E

>> No.9019303

>>9018637
mein herz ist stereo

>> No.9019353

>>9018637
mach mich zu deinem radio

>> No.9019458

>>9018637
eine kleine nachtmusik

>> No.9019535

>>8988466
I hate and cringe at the fact that a lotta of EOPs comments on Subaru's videos/clips are extremely cringe and cursed, and Subarus reads them all

>> No.9019772

>>8987968

Maybe 'he' should reflect on why 'his' insecurities get triggered by someone using highfalutin' diction instead, because there's no actual argument to make here.

>> No.9020186

>>8972067
Some of the newer streamers, like Monaka9659, do speak English pretty well, but there are some cute moments when the Japanese English (katakana) words don't have the same meaning in English.

>>8993129
Mine, too :3
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1135364416

>> No.9020401

>>9018637
>Literally learning English for better Apex play
sasuga team play apex

>> No.9025619

>>8972067
They’re all lazy

>> No.9026077

>>9018020
Then what try and get State/Foreign Ministry tier teachers?

-

But let's turn it around. How many of (YOU) learned Japanese in the last year?

>> No.9026163

>>9026077
You can learn english by yourself, the only thing you need to know is how

>> No.9026199

Nene and Marine are noticeably better at English

>> No.9026223

>>8972067
English is hard for Nippons

>> No.9026423

>>9018637
>>9020401
>literally learning English so she can fuck that apex pro that she keeps interacting with on twitter
ftfy

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>>8972067

>> No.9031920

>>9015734
Good for her, the video is cute

>> No.9031978

>>9016134
Honestly i am surprised that Lenri stuck with it, he seemed like he was doing it more because Pochi asked him to, nice to see he actually cared and put in the effort

>> No.9032253

>>8972067
They can understand it a hell of a lot better than they did before, which I assume was their initial goal before wanting to collab with NA Holos

>> No.9032415

>>8972067
My mother-wife Pochi didn't forget.

>> No.9032471

They were gonna “learn it” for the views none of these bitches actually take it seriously except Pochi, Towa, and Tenma. Not even Ame’s dumbass took Japanese and Korean seriously.

>> No.9032521

>>8972067
Based on the sankisei hardcore minecraft, they did improve. Still shit at it but they improved.

>> No.9032570

>>9026423
hell ya lets go rpr

>> No.9032796

>>8972067
I suspect they just realized duolingo is kind of shit for learning any language and decided to either quit or get lessons from a teacher instead

>> No.9032828

>>8996167
>Gura trying
When has she ever?

>> No.9033042

>>8980290
She didn't need that, even, but I appreciate her making the effort.

>> No.9033047

>>9032471
Also I mean Tenma from Phase connect
https://youtube.com/c/TenmaMaemi

>> No.9040489

>>8982111
anon, please. i'm trying to think pure thoughts

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>>8983975
>>8983522

Im late 20's and i have two friends who do not drink water...ever. Diet soda 6-12 cans a day is there literal only liquid intake. One of them told me she has not drank water in for over five years. Apparently the taste makes her want to vomit ?

They give me shit for watching vtubers but iam unsure if they will make it 30.

>> No.9043397

>>8973575
Marine and Subaru have gotten much better

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>>8972067
She's already the queen of english

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>>8972067
My oshi's English skills have improved substantially, but most of her audience is EOP anyway

>> No.9047009

>>9026423
I can relate to that.

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>>9042824
I'm almost 30 and have rarely drank anything that does not have cafffeine or alcohol in the last 10 years. It helps with the crippling adhd/depression but causes ibs and a overactive bladder.

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