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And why is it Gen 3?

>> No.896387

>>896302
Eh i got nothing, aside from flare being kinda boring that 3rdgen really is godtier

>> No.896408

>>896302
It's obviously [your oshi's] generation, which was mostly carried by [your oshi]

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>>896302
I could write a book on gen 3 being the best, but gen 3 really is the best. The have some of the most individually talented members and also a lot of synergy, minus Pekora who needed to come out of her shell at first. They also work amazingly well with other girls across all gens.

>> No.896700

>>896546
Pekora really gels well with Marine above anyone else I find. Like a recent Ark stream where Pekora added a very funny bit of black humor where if Marine died from doing a backflip Hololive would announce the next day she had suddenly graduated.

>> No.896719

>>896302
>why
Marine

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>>896302
Hololive gamers is the best gen because Fubiki and Korone are 2 of the best and Okayu and Miyu are great too

other candidates are obviously gen 3 and En gen 1

>> No.896884

>>896546
Posting the soulless camwhore and the failed manga artist, while talking about talent. Sankishits and Holowhore fans in general are mentally ill.

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>>896546

>> No.897675

>>896408
miko is my oshi but i agree gen 3 is the best overall

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>>896827
en 1 cmon

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>>896827
Gamers really has no weak points as well as having the highest concentration of delicious hags.

>> No.898483

>>896827
This, we need a Gamers gen 2

>> No.898499

>>896827
>hololive 'gamers'
>suck balls at most games
no

>> No.898502

>>896884
post vtubers with talent then

>> No.898532

>>896302
its the best gen because it has Marine in it.
Pekora and Rushia help bump it up a little as well, but honestly gen 3 could've just been Marine and it would still be the best.

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>>896827
I lovie gamers the most but I feel like they lack the same family dynamic that gen 3 has. That and they aren't that great at games

>> No.898591

>>898532
see >>896408

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because marine created this banger
https://youtu.be/gZL4-f3jRoE

>> No.898603

Can anyone explain the point of Holo Gamers? It's 4 girls who aren't even that great at games and who still do singing/idol stuff + fbk for some reason?

>> No.898621

>>898596
she's soooo small. i always imagined her to be 5'5-5'9

>> No.898629

>>896302
for me it's gen5

>> No.898639

>>898603
They all debuted at different times too, its more like a miscellaneous categorization because they fit into several gens. They do play games mostly.

>> No.898651

>>898621
she's way taller irl, and that's probably also why the tracking on her 3D model looks so janky

>> No.898685

>>898629
>gen5
>2 literal who's and a graduation
what

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>>896302
As a full package generation, I'd say Gen5 is actually the best. Even with the nerf of having lost Aloe, they still easily have the best chemistry and dynamics of any Holo generation, to the point where they manage to bound of eachother in entertaining ways even when not directly collabing with eachother.

As individual talents though, I'd have to concede that Gen 3 is the most stacked. You've got Pekora, Rushia and Marine in one generation, its going to require a lot to top that.

>> No.898786

>>896302
Best to worst
>gamers
>gen 3
>id gen 1
>gen 4
>0gen
>gen 1
>en
>id gen 2
>gen 5
>gen 2

don't watch holostars so idk where they would fit

>> No.898811

>>898502
He can't, because he's a seething chinksect or a nijinigger.

>> No.898840

>>898786
I get ID gen 2 because Anya but gen 5 easily trumps gen 1 and EN in both stream content and synergy.

>> No.898843

>>898786
>id gen 1
Risu...

>> No.898888

>>898786
I respect your right to your own opinion, but I frankly think your opinion is shit.

for me its:
>Gen5
>Gen3
>En1
>Gen4
>Gamers
>Id2
>Gen1
>Gen2
>Gen0
>Id1

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>>898786
>gamers 1st
>ID1 that high

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>>896302
Literally no other gen can top this combo

>> No.899052

>>896302
I don't think anyone can deny Gen 3 is the best,
Gen1 is too blank with 3 blonde girls (Haato stood out by sheer genius)
Gen2 doesn't have the best dynamic between each others
Gamers are basically OkaKoro alone
Gen4 has Luna and therefore cannot be best gen
Gen5 cought itself in a tragedy

Meanwhile Gen3 is soon to reach All its members over 1 million and perhaps Pekora will be the Holo with highest subcount

>> No.899065

>>899003
>Top streamer
>Top earner
>Top sex appeal and leader
And then add yuribait between a busty asmr mehera and a handsome tan elf, its not fair

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>>899052
>Gen4 has Luna and therefore cannot be best gen
gen 3 is the best, but fuck you

>> No.899214

>>896302
hard tie between gens 3-4, i think gen 3 is the most well rounded but i like gen 4 cause towa and watame are my favorite holos

>> No.899248

>>896700
And Pekora calling Marine's character fat and laughing in her face.
https://youtu.be/If2QQ0yuWlY

>> No.899274

>>896302
They're all talented, all have pretty unique streaming experiences, and collab well with one another. I don't know who was the scout for 3rd gen but they need to get back on the team. Not that the other gens aren't great but the other gens don't feel quite as diverse but still buddy buddy as 3rd gen.
5th gen is pretty close, if things were different with Aloe I wonder if they'd be closer to 3rd gen.

>> No.899283

>>899214
Gen four has five amazing members but I feel like Towa, Watame, and Luna aren't really friends like gen 3 and gen 5 have while Coco and Kanata are practically married. Might be the strongest overall in singing talent

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>>899248
KEK holy shit

>> No.899578

>>898603
It was back when Holo was still figuring out what they want to be, they were also supposed to focus exclusively on gaming but then theybwere incorporatedwith the rest of Holo, Okayu was infamously pissed and she almost quit when they told her that now she had to sing too.

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>> No.900036

>>899578
Even though she has such a nice singing voice? She's probably one of the best in hololive (not that that is a high bar to cross)

>> No.900239

>>900036
She wasn't confident about her voice back then
https://youtu.be/GFY77_wcCM4

>> No.900289

while my oshi is from EN, no doubt sankisei is the greatest gen of hololive

>> No.900425

In terms of cohesivenes gen3 and gen5 are pretty much tied, but in terms of sheer talent gen3 wind by a mile (and that comes from someone who likes allnthe gen5 members quite a lot)

>> No.903704

>>900289
>my oshi is from EN
go back

>> No.903844

>>903704
No, you go back
>>>/jp/ホロライブ

>> No.903922

I just realized I don't have any kind of connection or actively watch gen 2 at all.

>> No.903940

>>896387
What's wrong with her?

>> No.903944

>>896546
That asmr stream was great even if marine was lost

>> No.904087

>>896302
Gen 4
EN Gen 1
ID Gen 2
Gen 3
Gen 1 = Solo = Gen 2
Gamers
ID Gen 1

Keep in in mind I'm not shitting on anyone, they're all very close, but this is just going by the amount of members I like per Generation. In actuality I'd prefer to just rate my favorite individual members rather than by generation since I only follow one or two per gen, except for the top 3 or 4 I listed where I follow more members. Gen 4 and EN I basically follow all of them except one or two members, and ID is soley carried by Ollie but I also like Reine a lot so that's already 2/3 of that entire gen. But with gen 1 I only somewhat follow Mel. I somewhat like Aki and Haato but I don't follow them nearly as much as members from 4th Gen which I basically keep tabs omn everyone from that gen. So it's not really a fair comparison in the case of another gen I haven't ranked as high.

>> No.904306

Gen 3 is overrated. Flare and Noel are both forgettable. Marine is just a skank with an admittedly catchy theme song. Rushia is oji-san bait. Pekora is funny the first few times you watch her but she always does exactly the same thing so once you've seen a Pekora stream you've really seen them all.

For actual best I'd be torn between 4 and 5. Leaning 4 though. Towa, Kanata, and Watame are three of the most genuinely talented people in Hololive period. Coco and Luna are both natural born entertainers and extremely enjoyable. There are no duds in Gen 4, all five of them are excellent in their own ways.

For Gen 5, I think Nene is the only one who is a bit of a slouch, but the other 3 are all Top-tier Holos.

>> No.904340

>>898559
Korone and Okayu feel the most like family

>> No.904350

I love them all

>> No.904373

>>904340
They really feel like a couple

>> No.904384

>>903940
"Flare is boring" just means they don't watch her, she's actually a shoujo protagonist, great at minecraft, into loli, and has fun drunk streams

>> No.904424

>>896302
EN 1
Gen 3
Gen 5
Gamers
Gen 4
Gen 1
Gen 2
ID 1
ID 2
CN 1 & 2
>Homostars

>> No.904436

>>904306
>Lame-y
>ORUKA
>top tier
sit the fuck down.

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>>904306
atrociously terrible take

>> No.904441

Gen 3
Gamers
Gen 4
Gen 2
Gen 5
EN
Gen 0
Gen 1 (Not counting FBKing)
ID1 = ID2 (Each gen has its respective carry, YMMV, and literally who)

>> No.904449

>>898651
wasn't it because of her character model having high heels?

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>>904373
a couple of besties!

>> No.904678

>>896302
ID gen 1. Noel and Flare can fuck right off. Moona, Risu, and Iofi are the ultimate package.

>> No.904806

I think what helps Gen 3 is that it was the first to realize comradery goes a long way
Like I love Miko, Haato...etc. probably more individually, but Gen 3 really is the best gen seen as a whole

>> No.905081

As far as chemistry, closeness and overall group and solo success

Gen 3 >> Gamers >> Gen 4 > Gen 5 >> HoloEn >>> Gen 2 >>>>> Gen 1 >>>> HoloID

>> No.905110

>>905081
>>>>>>>>>> Holostars
(as much as I like them)

>> No.905378

>>904678
Do you REALLY believe this statement anon?

>> No.905508

>>896302
Agree, we peaked with Gen 3 followed by Gamers and EN, Hololive really is the gift that keeps on giving.

>> No.905562

>>904306
The only right thing on your first paragraph is the Rushia part and it's not even a bad thing.

>> No.906863

>>904384
>>904306
>>896387

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-sTLUG9Lc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr5-M7dPoEA

>> No.907988

>>906863
wtf okay maybe ill start watching some flare

>> No.908876

>>904306
>think Nene is the only one who is a bit of a slouch
Are you trying to anger people here? Nene is the core of Gen 5.

>> No.909705

noel and flare are kind of forgettable

>> No.914461

>>898629
>>898724
Objectively right

>> No.916258

>>896302
3>4>5>2>1>en>id1>id2 (although ollie alone is better than id1)

>> No.916545

>>916258
Where's gamers?

>> No.916551
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>>896302
>And why is it Gen 3?
>>Rushia
She came out of nowhere and just started swinging super hard, she might be incredibly unstable but man if she doesn't know her way to the heart and wallet of a man, she's kinda distant but despite that it seems like no matter how much time away she spends from sankisei the moment they get together it's like they have been friends for life. Even then she isn't only a girlfriend simulator but has the actual skills to back up her place at an idol company, also just straight up one of the best designs at holo
>>Pekora
Pekora is a living movie, the universe conspires in her favour to make every step she takes into kino and she is not one to waste a single opportunity, her being pretty much the biggest streamer in japan is nothing but a rightfully earned position through sheer charisma and hard work, she might be a shitty inkya but she has never backed down from an opportunity to help be it Miko, Marine or even Noel peker knows how to value a good friendship yet still understands that i you can't shit on someone they really aren't your friends. Theres no one in streaming that can make such gold out of story heavy games at this point it feels like Kojima was created with the sole purpose of making games for Pekora to play eventually
>>Marine
Fucking hell, where to even start with this monument of a person, being realistic is there anything she can't do? she might be on the path to self destruction from overwork but man if she isn't going out with a bang, someone who unabashedly chased her dreams and got there all without expecting things from other but pulling her own way through the skills she spent years refining, just thinking about how far Marine as come bring a tear to my eye at times, this MCpotatos addicted /x/ obsessed honorary hag is just a natural at being an entertainer and damm good friend
she should really do her dick reps tho, they look awful
>>Noel
She's my favourite so of course i'm not going to hold back on praise, but man i really want to grab a drink with her, there's zatsudan specialist and there's Noel who could honestly just go on for a life time, no matter where you come from, your gender or age Noel pretty much can entretain someone with a conversation about literally anything, if it wasn't because she's a nervous mess she would idealy be on her way to TV because not even people then can match her at times
She really is just a grab bag of everything NND has had to offer over the past decade, and hardly anyone in hololive has a grasp on streaming as a medium as her and yet it doesn't stop there her technical skill at ASMR is unrivaled and her tech expertise regarding audio might as well outdo the actual audio engineers at cover with how much they fuck up, if you want to hear you oshi's voice at it's crispest just look for their offcollab with Noel, add the strange time where it leaks that she's actually a very smart person and while I'm going to be the first one to accept that she's an acquired taste and a huge EOP filter man if she doesn't feel underappreciated at times because of her roommate
one of the few holos that genuinely loves games from the bottom of her hearth no matter how shitty she might be at them, square permissions please, i want her to play DQ11
I hope one day She and Shion can get something going because she's basically a mirror perfect image of JK Noel
>>Flare
Been a fan of her for a while actually, pre hololive mostly because I'm a years long Patrafag and she's just a good time all around, she's just a few utawakus away from her lungs collapsing because she goes HARD on songs like no one else does in hololive, and has the best taste in music on hololive period, expected nothing less from a fellow denpafag
She might suck at them, but it's refreshing seeing someone who doesn't shy away from playing action games and her minecraft streams are the comfiest. She's among the most beloved in hololive and she deserves that place more than anyone else because she's really fucking good friends that goes above and beyond for her girls, there's no better testament to her being just a fantastic streamer in general than her incredibly loyal fanbase and in all honestly i wouldn't have it any other way because the fact that she can enjoy comfortable being on the middle to lower ground of hololive truly allows for her laid back personality to flourish, no need to worry about sponsors let's just sit back and play minecraft for 6 hours
and above all thanks for thanking care of my dumb knight

Sankisei is the fucking best and the closest thing to a miracle vtubing has ever experienced

>> No.917009

>>896302
hololive EN0

>> No.917024

>>906863
if only she wasn't a dumb elf, id watch her. no point only listening to her talk.

>> No.917297

>>904678
Ok, Risu.

>> No.917355

>>896408
Kiara is my oishi but yep can't disagree that gen 3 is great

>> No.917385

>>916551
nice writeup

>> No.917838

>>899283
Doesnt Watame live with Mom in the countryside?

Would explain why she wasnt able to be buddy buddy but Watame and Kaichou call each other "aibou" so theres that.

Also Coco treats Luna like a literal princess. Matsuri has stated that Luna was pretty lonely in the beginning, whether that was cuz she was shy or just didnt mesh well with the others, idk.

for Towa, how early along was her incident? thats the only thing i can think of for why she isnt as buddy buddy. Also Coco noted in one of her asacocos that she didnt know when tf Towa was active to have her join in as a face for the asacocos

Asacoco in the mornings pretty much solidified their friend status for me cuz they always worked together with Coco and gave her little skits.

>> No.918523

>>916551
>knew about flare as a patrafag
Was flare the retired honeystrap?

>> No.919405

>>918523
They are friends and collabs together once in a while. She also introduced her to Noel which both of them bonding over their shared audiophile-autism

>> No.919442

Anyone tallied the Gens by combine subscriber counts?

EN leads in this category, and Gen 3 should be 2nd. Off the top of my head.

>> No.920030

My ranking is more based on how much I like each member rather than as a whole, but team synergy does play a bit of a role

>Gen4
It took a while for them to gel as a team but, solo they all but more than make up for it. Coco, Watame, Towa and Kanata are the most unique feeling of most of hololive in that they feel very free in their personalities. Not to say others dont, but, 4th gen feels less like a gen of idols and more just friends taking the piss
> Gen3
There is literally no way to put this gen lower than 2nd or 3rd, they have extreme synergy AND solo appeal. Even as someone who doesnt much care for Flare can see her collabs with Noel and feel comfy as fuck with them. Rushia goes without saying is one of the most fun due to her volatile nature, Pekora is a chaos god and Marine outside of H O R N Y is super fun to listen to with some of her stories and her art is great to watch.
>Gamers
While I love Korone, the other two dont do much for me. Mio has some great moments with her contagious laughter and Okayu is comfy with her deeper voice, but, outside of that I cant really watch their streams and while the synergy is there I cant help but feel like Okayu and Mio will always be the "Janetty" to Korones "Shawn"
> Gen 0
I like every single member of this gen, but no real synergy and I often forget they even debuted solo (I kept thinking Roboco was a super late addition for the longest time)
> EN 1
Ina is comfy as fuck and is probably one of the only ones I can watch a full stream without clicking off of. Ame is great to watch since shes just that level of toxic I can stand. Gura while shes fine for a while has been grossly over rated due which I can sorta get but, she still has her moments. Calli is just ok, I kinda wish she'd be a bit more open about her personality rather than obviously toning it down for the audience. People can tell when you're holding back. Kiara is annoying as fuck, she tries, god bless her she tries, but she reminds me of too many theater broads from my time that I want to throw in a wood chipper.
>Gen 5
Nene is cute, Lamy is eh, Botan is kinda boring, but Polka holds this entire gen together. She feels way too good to be in this gen and I wish she was a Gen 3 rather than Gen 5. It doesnt help that they got kicked in the balls straight out of the gate which wasn't their fault in any way.
>Gen 2
If it wasn't for Aqua being a complete retard I would forget this gen exists half the time. Not to say her gen mates are untalented just, unremarkable. I love Subas duck tendencies, Shion has a chill vibe to her and Ayame/Coco are cute to watch, but outside of that there isnt much there. Gen 2 is basically clip only for me at this point.
>Gen 1
Besides Haato carrying this gen for me now there isnt much there. Mel is...Mel. Fubuki has some great moments like her stream waiting for the girls to wake up but she has slowed down a lot in the past few months. Aki, bless that girl, but she can be BORING, and not even comfy boring. And Matsuri just isnt good. She gets some down the rabbit hole due to her wild ero nature but, shes got nothing out side of that.
>ID 1
Besides Moona being a babe and Risu having fun little moments this gen is just there
>ID2
Lol
>tl;dr
>4
>3
>Gamers
>0
>EN1
>Gen5
>Gen2
>Gen1
>ID1
>ID2

>> No.920260

It sucks that Aqua and Subaru are tied to such a shitty gen.

>> No.921067

>>920260
Aqua deserves better

>> No.921255

>>921067
subaru deserves better

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>>921255

>> No.921332

>>896302
You misspelled yonkisei.

>> No.921598

>>921268
suck a pepeloni stick

>> No.921904

>>921598
Way ahead of you

>> No.922045

>>920260
Aqua is autism and fake as fuck, even pekora don't like her

>> No.922060

>>898603
Gamers was created by Fubuki as an excuse to hire her real life friend Mio. They didn't have enough people to start a new gen so they picked up OkaKoro. This was back when the other girls didn't focus as much on gaming, Youtube hadn't mass-demonetized ASMR streamers for example. Once the rest of Hololive got shoehorned into doing nothing but gaming and karaoke they kinda lost what made them special. Though it's funny cause Mio fucking sucks at games but she's an amazing singer.

>> No.922143

>>920030
If you see the solo success of Gen 2, you can say that they are all quite successful in their own right. Choco is struggling but she has her moments.

The problem with this group is that the Gen2 brand was never a thing for them. It was only a marker to say when they debuted. I don't know when they started that 1 month restriction collab outside of your own Gen but boy they need some serious team building at the very start. Having 3 introverts is very hard.

Not to mention that Gen2 found more chemistry in other people. ChocoxMel, AquaxOkayu, OkayuxShion, ShionxAqua AyamexFAMS, SubaruxSMOK.

I'm just glad Shion is quite close with Aqua and Okayu. That girl sounds like legit loner,

>> No.922177

>>922060
Mio has the most interesting types of Collaborations, Second would be Miko. Her ideas are always original. They always give her guests opportunities to be funny, smart, clippable or just down right bottom left. She can be a Variety Show Producer. She's great.

>> No.922223

>>899052
>Gen4 has Luna and therefore cannot be best gen
based take

>> No.922277

>>922143
I think for me its just that outside of certain collabs and moments Gen 2 just is. It sucks too because I can tell that girls like Choco and Shion have maybe a bit more to bring to the table then they show, and Ayame is just a travesty since she can barely get any traction due to her condition

>> No.922406

>>922277
They don't have group intros like Gen3. They don't have a song like Gen5, They don't have daily skits like Asacoco. They don't do regular group zatsudans like ID1. They present themselves as themselves. That is it. Kinda sad.

Ayame is doing fine in spite of her health conditions. She's in 3 original songs I believe for Bloom right after HoloFes. She's in a lot of Officlal Holo Channel collabs and with F A M S vs OKBR. She did that Apex Tournament. And she does stream on her channel. She just doesn't pile them on. She can't stream collab and stream afterwards on the same day that is why it looks bad in numbers. I hope she participates in more original songs.

Shion and Choco are the underdogs. Choco has always struggled trying to find a game that can make her click with her viewers except ASMR and MC. She loves nerfing herself with Apex and ARC. Shion is Shion. I love her.

>> No.922439

>>896302
4th is probably my favorite gen. Besides Coco - i don't hate her but i just cannot find myself enjoying her energy.

>> No.922529

>>922406
I think if they showed themselves off more with their own unique talents and such they could probably hit big. Which makes me wanna root for them since they are such under dogs but, at the same time I can only give a pity sub at this point. Who knows though Choco/Shion may be next in line for that next big push

>> No.922536

>>922277
Eh I feel like most of the talents in Hololive are about where they should be based on the amount of effort they put into it. Except Aki, who genuinely tries her hardest and seems to never get anywhere unfortunately.

Choco certainly has the talent and personality to be successful but she doesn't push her content or try to stand out at all. Like just compare her cooking streams to Haachama's, Choco's streams use no camera and its just listening to her talk while in the kitchen. She also has potential to be a better gamer than she actually is. Her autism level in Ark and Minecraft are quite impressive and could make up for her lower natural skill/reflexes but she just never plays the popular games like the current Undertale trend, or even plays unpopular but comfy games like Animal Crossing. Hell she doesn't even like Minecraft so while everyone else is bonding in the JP Minecraft server she's by herself playing Ark or collabing with some indie vtuber on their channel.

Shion is pretty deservedly very middle of the pack. Her visual design and voice/personality are probably top 5 in Hololive but she's another one that prefers doing tons of zatsudans instead of unique content, and she has no real signature games or anything. The only thing she's notably good at is singing but there's better singers like Towa or even Ayame in her own gen, resulting in her being forgotten most of the time even though virtually everyone likes her. Being overall likeable but no one's oshi can hurt your growth if you stream only during primetime. If she streamed during more flexible times like Polka or Kanata she could make up for it like they do.

Honestly I don't have a preference for strongest gen but undoubtedly gen 1 is the weakest gen. Aki/Mel/Matsuri have all been struggling for so long, if it wasn't for Haato and Fubuki it'd be quite the sad state. There's also the fact they pretty much never interact with eachother or collab because "gens" weren't a thing back when they debuted so there's no bond between them at all.

>> No.922585

>>899052
>gen 4 has Luna, so it can’t be best gen
As much as she can get flack, she’s easily one of the more talented members of the entire company. It just comes at a nerf with being a NEET and frail health

>> No.922608

>>922536
>Except Aki
Fucking THIS, she went out of her way to make an entire song in a made up language and make it GOOD to boot and she isnt even close to 1mil. Aki is the hidden gem of Hololive and I hope she gets her time to shine someday


>Choco certainly has the talent and personality to be successful but she doesn't push her content or try to stand out at all.

That is also really sad, because you just know she has IT, if she tried. She has the obvious sex appeal, the voice, and she has sparks of brilliance with certain ideas. I think her cooking streams are probably the biggest missed opportunity for her.

>> No.922667

>>922608
Was kinda depressing when Aki did a lounge singing stream a month or so ago and didn't even break 5k viewers with no one else streaming, even while picking the exact songs Gura fans wish Gura would sing and doing them better. She's struggled for so long no one even wants to give her a chance anymore. Really unfortunate.

At least Choco broke 10k viewers for her unarchived valentines day ASMR stream so she certainly can bring in viewers when she tries.

>> No.922753

>>922667
We seriously just gotta get something going for Aki. I wanna see my based Interdimensional Half Elf Singer to get to 1mil

>> No.922830

>>916551
This. should be a copypasta for everyone asking about sankisei. Personally i think marine has best choice of songs because we are the same era. Noel falls of a little for being such a menhera

>> No.922835

>>922753
Honestly I don't know what can be done for her.
>Has unique content
>Plays some cool games
>Great singer
>Collabs with popular holos
>Participates in high viewership streams like the Akukin relay and Coco's 3D debut
>Panders to EOPs
>Streams both during primetime and EOP-friendly dead hours
>Got a cool as fuck new costume
>Releases original songs and covers fairly often
It's times like these you wish it was possible to re-debut or something for a clean slate.

>> No.922841

>>922753
She is quite loved by her viewers. Her SC is consistent. Her fanbase is like Towa and Luna levels of loyalty.

>>922536
Shion yo... her zatsudans is the reason why she's loved. It's an EOP filter though. The only thing is that her streams has been inconsistent. She's been slowly starting to get active again so yeah. I hope she does a collab with Coco. Their pairing has always been a favorite of mine.

>> No.922858

>>922835
The only thing that can be done for her is hoping there is something on Twitter that gets the normies rolling. I know we dont need anymore EOPs in this shit but, as long as it gives her some of the recognition she deserves I dont care

>>922841
That is something to be proud of at the very least.

>> No.922905

>>922835
Like a Nene overhaul? Maybe. I think the issue here is that she doesn't get clipped a lot. Her last memorable clip was that akukin relay. The last one after that was Kanatan talking about her.

You can see a lot of Indie Vtubers that throws so much effort but don't get traction because they just can't get viral. As long as her fans stick with her though she would be fine.

>> No.922908

>>917838
Luna is their precious and I think all of yonksei adores her. Watame wrote on that card of hers that she thinks Luna is cute right away, and they definitely recognize each other anyways. It just sucks because yonksei is always broken apart and never together at the same time

>> No.922937

>>922908
I know that Coco is planning on a new project that will replace Asacoco. I hope 4th gen will be involved like before

>> No.922951

>>922937
Id actually prefer if coco branches out because she hasn’t collaborated with anyone in a long time. Again, yonksei is a very talented group but it sucks that they’re never doing a group stream like sanksek or gosikei does

>> No.923106

>>922951
I wouldn't say never. They were all in one group during the Holo Sports Fest. We know now that Luna has been struggling with her hand and when she said she going to get surgery, all of her genmates were quick to respond so we can infer that they do communicate or rather have an open channel. In time buddy. They will collab eventually again.

>> No.923394

>>923106
Speaking of her hand, I think it’s at least getting better.

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>>898724
G O K I S E I F O R E V E R

>> No.923604

>>896302
3/5 are goat tier
the other two are really popular

Zero dead weight

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Gen 5 just bc of Nene

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Best gen is objectively Gen 5, they have the total package and the best chemistry of any gen.
>Best retard: Nene
>Best gamer: Botan
>Best cabaret: LAMY !!!
>Best debu: Porka
>Best menhera: Aloe (too menhera to continue)
After Gen 5 the list goes:
Gen 3: packed with top tier talent but lacking the chemistry and collabs of the GOAT Gokisei
GAMERS
SOLO
EN 1: breakout international success even with some shit tier members in Gura & Kiara
Gen 2 = Gen 1 = Gen 0
ID 1
ID 2
Gen 4: YONKISEI HATE

>> No.924148

It's en1 you weebs

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you will never match up to the dorky energy that yonksei pulls off

>> No.924206

>>896827
>and En gen 1
stopped reading there

>> No.924473

>>924206
Well done retard you read to the end of the post

>> No.925187

>Mel
>Aki
>Matuli
i want to save them bros..

>> No.926905

Gen 3 > Gen 5 easily
Nene is the only good gen 5 the rest suck

>> No.927271

>>925187
Man I dunno what the fuck happened to Matsuri, she suddenly fell into obscurity without any reason

>> No.928927

>>927271
Matuli in the beginning of the holoboom's was mainly clipped and meme'd by the CN fanbase, without CN its only Lyger carrying the torch but he sorta fizzle out after achieving modship. Add on top of her usual real menhera outbreaks(as seen on her 5 twitters) she sorta became distant from the rest after Luna.. And something horribly went wrong after the blonde bimbo of niji became her deepest obsession. With all the shiny new colors of Gen 5 and EN, why would newfags look back?

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>>896302
yea hololive peaked with gen 3. although it was not very apparent when they debuted. who knows, maybe nene will be appointed japanese prime minister next month and boost gen5's status.

>> No.929220

Who is your favorite member from your least favorite gen?

>> No.929235

>>928927
>as seen on her 5 twitters
She only has 4 anon, or do you something that I don't know?

>> No.929363

>>929220
azki

>> No.929382

inonaka would be shit without her

>> No.929399

>>929220
Watame

>> No.929448

>>929220
Inaaaa

>> No.929655

>>896302
Golden gen after all

>> No.929693

>>905110
I love the homos but the chemistry is a bit weak

>> No.930195

>>896546
First time I heard heartbeat ASMR. That really did something to me...

>> No.930385

>>896302
Sankisei just has way too much going for it as a Gen compared to the rest.

Beyond Gen 3, I'd say Gen 5 is actually well on the way of becoming the second best gen despite (or maybe because of) the hardships they faced at the beginning, followed by Gen 4 and GAMERS because there isn't really anyone in those gens that I find bad or unremarkable. Gen 2 has Aqua, Ayame for comfy feels, and hidden gem Subaru. Gen 1 has Fubuki, riising star Haato, and hidden gem Aki, and Gen 0 I both count and don't count as a gen (I like Miko and Suisei; Sora also has a comfy voice).

>> No.930493

>>929235
fuck I brainfarted and lumped all the socmed I know of hers into a "twitter".

>>922667
If you think about it in another way, only real fans stayed after the saviorfagging event ended and she got her motivation back? Because the earliest memory I had of Aki was always about being drunk when I didn't watch her then, which I don't see much of at all these days? Feel free to correct me on her lore and call me a clipfag but I don't mind knowing since I'm a believer now and her archives are nuked. As for what we can do for her other than having clip channels churn out clips I believe its kinda hard because I feel Aki has this unique flavor that endears her to me alot but every zoomer I know calls her boring aside from her ara-ara shtick. Those who like her loves her even if she's not their oshi, but most just move on for some reason.

But yeah I would be lying if I wasn't a little sad that even her kino birthday countdown stream was around 5k views i.e only her usual rozetai and people who loves the entire hololive.

>> No.932949

>>929220
Ollie

>> No.933430

>>898888
numbers check out

>> No.933563

>>905110
yeah the Homostars are great as individuals, but their chemistry just isn't there. I genuinely feel Astel bounded off Ollie better than he did any of the other guys

>> No.933655

EN gen 1 of course, kiara and gura is the reason why hololive jp could be popular on overseas, without them hololive jp is nothing

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>>933655

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Alright there's gotta be some ichimi in this thread, one of you fags start a general for Marine please cause I wanna talk about her streams but she's not my oshi so I don't want to make it myself, she's one of the only big JP Holos who doesn't have her own thread

>> No.933884

>>927271
The endless APEX arc

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>>929220
Shuba

>> No.934076

>>929220
Aki

>> No.934117

>>898651
>she's way taller irl
This is not the case. Marine's roommate is well-known, and she's quite short. I think she might even be 150 cm tall like Marine is.

>> No.934579

What is Suisei's official generation again?

>> No.934635

>>933798
is there a point to making a thread just for people to discuss how much they want to bang/marry her?

>> No.934756

>>934635
I mean that's what we do in my oshi's thread but we talk about her streams sometimes I guess

>> No.935493

>>934579
0, same as Sora and Miko

>> No.935698

>>904306
>Marine is just a skank with an admittedly catchy theme song.
>Coco natural born entertainers and extremely enjoyable.
>I think Nene is the only one who is a bit of a slouch
holy fuck stop posting any time

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