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8839660 No.8839660 [Reply] [Original]

When you think about it, everything really IS their fault.
If they hadn't debuted a Chinese branch, Hololive wouldn't have followed suit, and Coco would still be here.
If they hadn't courted clippers back in the early days of vtubing that moved on to Hololive, EOPs wouldn't have flooded and the current state of the fanbase could be avoided.
Subaru wouldn't struggle to gain gachikois if she wasn't permanently associated with that Maimoto faggot. Several girls' images are damaged thanks to collabs they did with Nijis before the company took off.
If their fanbase wasn't so rabid and didn't mass report anything they felt was a threat, we could still have bikinis and the permissions' arc could've been avoided.
If NijiID didn't set the precedent for mixed-gender collabs in the country, Ollie wouldn't have be degraded with her constant e-celeb collabs.
We could have Pomu and Selen instead of Mori and Kiara, if their faggot management didn't grab them first.
Past dramas such as the Mizuryu Kei and NKODICE situations were aggravated by antis, Nijiniggers of course fanning the flames.
Lulu would still be around if they didn't stalk and leak her information.
Matsuri wouldn't have felt the need to act unbecoming of an idol and cause drama if she wasn't a Nijisanji superfan inspired by their antics.
We could still have Aloe if they didn't feel the need to defend the "honor" of one of their whorish ex-"talents". Maybe gen 5 wouldn't have been such a failure if she was still around.
And if they hadn't set the precedent for botting in the vtubing community, HoloCouncil's subscriber problem would have been fucked.
It is unironically, literally, factually, all their fault,

>> No.8839780

>>8839660
Meds now schizo

>> No.8839789

Wtf I love Nijisanji now

>> No.8839957

>>8839660
I always knew Holofags on this board were fake when I checked Delta's general one day and even they are sick of you fags using her as bait all the time. You say you care about her but she's going through mental crisis after mental crisis and none of you care, only her regulars do, but you Holofags just click Aloe boob pics and continue on. Coco's fans went to Kson easily, yet you can't even bear to keep up with Delta who needs support. It's sad and really gave me perspective on how shallow Hololive fags are. That plus the several generals that hit bump limit over literal images before EN2 opened their mouth. You're all just a bunch of shallow female minded men.

>> No.8839996

nigga who cares
just watch the cute anime girls talk
it aint that serious

>> No.8840129

>>8839660
I enjoy shitting on Nijiniggers as much as anyone else, but this is getting into real schizo territory, also didn't read.

>> No.8840193 [DELETED] 

>>8839660
I love Pomu!

>> No.8840218

Coco can come back, as even the head guy at Cover said she’s free to return whenever she wants. Send Hololive’s JP department a flood of emails that you want Coco to have her freedom & her projects greenlit. You know where to find her if Cover relents.

>> No.8840311

>>8839957
Why the fuck would a normal holobronie care about Delta? Holocouncil has been longer in hololive than she ever was, the only ones who followed her long enough for her to become Delta was fanatic saviourfags who essentially forced themselves to build a connection by following her roomates's every move.

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>>8839660
Anon, please take your meds. We are all worried for your safety right now.

>> No.8840366

Didn't read but I want to fuck Kanae.

>> No.8840369

>>8839660
>If they hadn't debuted a Chinese branch, Hololive wouldn't have followed suit, and Coco would still be here.
If Coco wouldn't have showed off her YT analytics like an attention whore she would still be here. I still don't get why she thought her viewers would care about that stuff.

>> No.8840475

>>8839957
95% of people who claims missing Aloe doesn't even support her in her new persona, and surely they never watched any stream. If you think about it not only are being fake here, it happens everywhere (Discord, Reddit, 4chan, even in Yt comments), too many people ''miss'' Aloe, too many people thinks all girls are the best but they don't bother to watch another chuuba besides Gura or their oshi, too many people are always trying to excuse Cover's incompetence even if this is obvious (But I think it also talent's fault, but nobody will say this). Most Holofans are like robots who doesn't have any public criticism because they don't want to be the weird one

>> No.8840597

>>8840475
Literally any criticism of COVER outside of here is Zhangposting. Cover could make a model that is literally a door that doesnt speak; 10k would watch, and 15 clips would be made. This is the problem of becoming too insulated as a company.

>> No.8840665

>>8840369
>If Coco wouldn't have showed off her YT analytics
Haato did it too, but people somehow forgot this

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Can't believe you wrote all that shit just for no one to read it OP

>> No.8840767

>>8840665
Both did, dont know why Coco is the only one brought up over it. I know the antis targeted her more but still.

>> No.8840775

>>8840311
If they don't care why can't you faggots shut up about Aloe?
>>8840475
Same people saviorfag and beg about Holostars yet won't watch them. It's interesting.

>> No.8840837

>>8840597
>Cover could make a model that is literally a door that doesnt speak
They were already praying to a fucking cube, it wouldn't surprise me

>> No.8840879

>>8840767
IIRC bugmen determined that Haato said it by accident while Coco somehow did it on purpose. They probably had a grudge on the reddit dragon for a while and now had an excuse to fuck with her.

>> No.8840976

>>8839957
Aloe situation was actually one of the moments of unity between holofags and nijiniggers on 5ch that improved their relationship. Aloe was rightfully harrasssed by both sides(Nijis for spreading rrats and Holos for being a lying whore). Only EOPs and people with a massive savior complex who eat up her sob stories think of her as a "victim".

>> No.8841039

>>8840775
There is a difference between muh Aloe and stating the fact that Nijifags persecuted Aloe because she talked about how shit Nijisanji was as a company.

>> No.8841049

>>8840879
I mean its not hard seeing the angle that Haachama showed her analytics without any intent while Coco showed her analytics with definitive intent.
You can debate what the intent actually was but why would she do this after seeing the backlash Haachama got unless she was trying to make some statement?

>> No.8841088

>>8840879
Coco is American, that for chinks give as much "everything they do is evil" bias as say, a Jewish person is for half of this website.
Of course she did it on purpose just to hurt the glorious nation of China! Don't you know how tricky these Americas are?

>> No.8841122

>>8839660
You don't even need all that.

if Niji didn't exist, Holo wouldn't have to rely on CN to stay afloat, and vtubers would just be another successful idol group spinoff. No CN, EN, ID. No Coco to try and bring an EN audience. Just pure idols.

>> No.8841130 [DELETED] 

>>8841039
>ecause she talked about how shit Nijisanji was as a company
She said Chitose graduated because her face got doxxed. It's a complete lie that denies her the honor behind why she actually graduated - she got picked up by a record label. The narrative makes it sound as if Chitose graduated in shame rather than pride. That's why people were mad. She was about as informed as Veibae talking about how Hololive treats their talents.

>> No.8841137

>>8841049
1. Haato got it at midnight, Coco got it in the morning
2. Asacoco was pre-recorded

>> No.8841145

>>8840775
>why can't you faggots shut up about Aloe?
I have never once talked about Aloe except telling people who parade her corpse around that they are retarded for worshipping someone whose only claim to fame is being DOA. Better yet, read what i wrote about it earlier.

>> No.8841227

>>8840879
Coco did it on a prerecorded segment

Meaning she had ample time to review it before she aired it. Or Her managers could've seen it before it aired. Also shes a burger.

>> No.8841320

>>8841227
To be honest I didn't even know that China and Taiwan had that bad relations until the Coco drama

>> No.8841485

>>8841130
Nobody cares nijinigger

>> No.8841556 [DELETED] 

>>8841485
Don't cry when people tell you you're wrong on an anonymous mongolian basketweaving forum.

>> No.8841585

>>8841130
Lmao you are an actual Niji Internet Defense Force out here spewing that old narrative that was the only thing, or what Aloe said at all in the video, no mention of the cliques, no mention of the harassement?
Time after time again we get people complaining about the cliques in Nijisanji.
The 180 you just did on Hololive and Aloe are very noticeable, are you on Ichikara's pay as well?

>> No.8841804 [DELETED] 

>>8841585
Go ahead and quote what Aloe said about the cliques and harassment, since you're so well informed. Since Aloe is so supposedly well informed. She was eating up Narukami's narrative about Coco too after she graduated, don't forget.
I'm not a tribalist, so I brought up a similar situation. Veibae talked shit about Hololive in a misinformed way. So she got attacked by Hololive fans. Aloe talked shit about Nijisanji in a misinformed way, so she got attacked by Nijisanji fans. Of course the latter had much more of a volatile reaction.

>> No.8841862

>>8841804
>holobronies
>being hypocrites
shocking

>> No.8841879

>>8840837
Yeah, that is why I said that. I dont even hate Cover as a whole, but the mere fact that they are an apple like cult in vtubing is hilariously ridiculous.

>> No.8841911

>>8841130
>honor
>shame
>pride
Which asian are you? Larping samurai or starving insect?

>> No.8841927

I mean, you're not wrong, but you're not going deep enough.
The Live2D vstreamer model of vtubing was popularized by Nijisanji, specifically Mito. Everyone else adopted it because of its cost-effectiveness. Even Hololive was 3D-focused at first.
Without Nijisanji, vtubing would still be focused on Kizuna Ai-like 3D and videos instead of 2D and streaming.

>> No.8841970

>>8841804
>Implying Coco wasn't right about it
People buried that rrat because they think Yagoo = Cover management, but things aren't so simple.

>> No.8841975 [DELETED] 

>>8841911
Ken-sama, ackshually. That's how the Japs think about it, like it or not.

>> No.8841989

>>8841927
But hololive's 3D tech is ass compared to Nijisanji's and Sora's early 3D model looked like a total piece of shit (and still does)?

>> No.8842016

>>8841927
You really cannot say that for certain, because for all we know, Hololive would have adopted it anyways. Or another company would.

>> No.8842027

>>8841927
But the shift to 2D was a good thing, by the end of it only HimeHina was producing good 3D content.

>> No.8842114

>>8841927
Those 3D videos fucking sucked and literally was leeching off of other content, omg Kizuna Ai reacting to food videos for the 100th time!

>> No.8842125

>>8841879
Why is that tolerated at all?

>> No.8842214

>>8841970
>Yagoo = Cover management
Yagoo doesn't have any power in management if directors' board is not with him which it seems to be happening right now

>> No.8842258

>>8842125
Because of China really. China made any criticism of cover = zhangposting. Fuck China.

>> No.8842316

>>8842214
He has no control over EN at all i think.

>> No.8842350

>>8841049
Their streams were a few hours apart though. It can be argued that Coco didn't even watch Haato's stream yet.

>> No.8842467

>>8842214
That is literally what I said?

>> No.8842508

>>8842350
Cocofags will claim she did it to save Haachama. Funny thing is a heard another story from Coco herself saying that it was Haachama who provided her with support during the suspension which leads me to believe that she did it without knowing Haachama did it.

>> No.8842700

>>8841879
Being Apple-like isn't just about being a recognizable name, don't use it as a meaningless buzzword /v/tard

>> No.8842912

>>8839957
She hated agencies, she became a 2view, it was what she chose

>> No.8842926

>>8842508
people really like pretending coco was some sort of martyr

>> No.8843016

>>8842700
Yeah thats why people pay 4000$ for their computers when you could spend 4K and get a Beef PC.

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I see holobronies have selective memories and are forgetting that China and Chinese clippers was literally what made them popular in the first place. They were already very popular there before Niji debuted VirtualReal (which isn't directly associated with Nijisanji).

The rest is all bullshit/bait as well since OP is the SEAnigger iToddler obsessed with making threads like this that everyone should learn to ignore by now.

>> No.8843292

>>8842926
She is to many. She “saved” Haachama from zhangs, and Yagoo backstabbed her, making her retire. She is correct about Cover in many aspects but she aint no martyr. Unfortunately, one of the worst legacies she left was that any criticism of Hololive is chink schizoposting. And do not even think of saying a bad word about her.

>> No.8845039

>>8840879
to be fair alot of people assumed coco did it on purpose to bring attention away from haato, so it was in part the efforts of fans joining in creating that narrative

>> No.8847414

>>8839660
fuck off and die, tribalfag.
>continuing to push the meme that nijifans are anything to do with aloe quitting despite the known sins of kusodad
for this faggotry especially, fuck off an die.

>> No.8847467

>>8847414
Cope

>> No.8848041

Reminder that:
>Watame's dad left her because of Nijisanji
>Subaru has a hole in her heart because of Nijisanji and Ichikara burnt down her house
>Kanata is deaf in one ear because of Nijisanji
>Moona was about to be stoned to death because of Nijisanji
>Ame's mom whored herself out because of Nijisanji
>Kiara was forced to participate in amateur intergender wrestling tournaments because of Nijisanji
>Korone divorced with no custody of her kids because of Nijisanji
>Haachama has schizophrenia because of Nijisanji

captcha: 0RATG

>> No.8848802

>>8848041
damn niji did all THAT?
how do i support them further?

>> No.8848961

>>8845039
Yeah, and the fans push this bullshit narrative to this day.

>> No.8849010

>>8848041
>Nijisanji opened Matulis door, whoops. It was Iinchou!

>> No.8854865

>>8839660
People against mixed gender collabs are entirely the fault of Hololive though. Subaru was the one who reached out to Maimoto.

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>>8839660
Wanna know something else Nijisanji did? Yeah, they fucked your crush. That one who was super invested in you? Yeah, Nijisanji shoved his ten inch bonbon deep inside of her pussy. Nijisanji made her cum. All those sappy Tinder messages she sent you? Yeah, she wrote those while she was getting anally ravaged by Ichikara. Explains all the spelling errors.

You know, the universe is deterministic. Nijisanji scientists determined that long ago and exploited that fact to fuck any female that even remotely associates with you. In the past and for the forseeable future. Your oshi. That cute college student you bumped into. In 2018 that random girl who would later become the reddit dragon would guzzle Alabama backwater cajun cococks to wash down the Percocet and titty pills.

Oh yeah, your mom. Nijisanji fucked your mom. She was even moaning out your father's name too. Your father that Nijisanji also gave the best prostate-simulating sex of his life. How does it feel knowing you're the son of a man who, despite all his best efforts, would always love it up the ass? I guess it runs in the family.

One day, Nijisanji will fuck you in the ass. That isn't a probability, that is a fact. The world is deterministic, you know. Every event in this world has a cause, everything in this universe is predictable. By the time you scrolled to the last line of this essay your greasy fingers are already hammering away at your keyboard to fill out the captcha. Just know that one day, you will be thunderfucked, like the worthless buttslut you are, and you will love it.

So yeah, you're gay.

>> No.8855809

>>8841122
just fucking watch lovelive or idolm@ster then faggot

>> No.8856968

>>8839660
Gas the Niji's!
Tribe War Now!

>> No.8863082 [DELETED] 

>>8856968
Based

>> No.8863348

>>8839660
You got a lot of (You) so you must be based or right or both

>> No.8863876

>>8848041
>Nijisanji raped Pekora and blamed Migo

>> No.8867704

>>8840369
Chang moment.

>> No.8868711

>>8839660
nijibros.........

>> No.8869221

>>8841585
Nigga it was clear as day that Aloe just speaking out of her ass and believe in stupid rrat. Chitose quit cause she got scouted by fucking Kamitsubaki! The place that fits her musical style and guranteed her success going forwards. She already has 2 Live Concert and Album since then with musics that fits her own style. Why would she stay in niji with that kind of oppurtunity and freedom? It has nothing to do with whatever rrat Aloe was believe in, it was all about better fit oppurtunity, same case as Luna.

>> No.8876682

It's all Mito's fault, we could still have scripted videos in 3D.

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