/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>is amazing at games
>is a former predator in Apex, a game dominated by men
>is highly entertaining
but many won't give her a chance because she isn't in Hololive. Weird, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Nah, the voice and constant laughing are a filter.

[Anonymous No.]

>is amazing at games AHAHAHAHAHA
>is a former predator in Apex, a game dominated by men HAHAHAHAHA
>is highly entertaining HAHAHAAA
but many won't give her a chance because she isn't in Hololive. Weird, huh? AHAHAHAHAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Fat bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Better than any holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615767
>>8615783
Filtered by the best part, lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
it's better this way, look what Hololive fans did to Matsuri. They are crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
She has that obese woman laughter and voice. I will not watch that blob.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
she is really great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615914
>>8615817
But you watch Polka. And Marine.

[Anonymous No.]

>30k will watch someone be bad at superhot while 3-4k watch Selen entertain for hours in either Apex or retro games
>people assume she's "bad" cause of a smaller number
You know, Pekora was a literal who on NND once too btw.

[Anonymous No.]

/vt/ convinced me to give her a chance, and my personal experience with her has been terrible. Sure, she is actually crazy skilled at games but half of what comes out of her mouth is filler laughter, her jokes often don't land, i just cannot see what her fans like about her. To me she will always remain a medium-low tier chuuba (there's MUCH worse).

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>>8615817
Being obsessed with other people's weight is fatty behavior
Are you obese anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615975
But I am not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Is she in any global or national leaderboards?

[Anonymous No.]

She is amazing but
>Apex

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616121
she was predator in an earlier season, after that she said she reached her goal and now plays for fun with friends, not ranked 24/7.

[Anonymous No.]

Her Serious Sam streams are absolute peak of entertainment. I don't remember last time I've had this much fun watching any stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Niji really lucked out with her

[Anonymous No.]

Stop being a numberfag and enjoy Selen before she burns out and graduates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616303
I will fuck her memories out so she won't be burnt out anymore if that happens.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine watching english streamers lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615975
Why? I don’t understand a single shit there saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616276
Her and Pomu were phenomenal picks. They can really bring everyone together as well.

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>>8616000
No, just pointing out the facts

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616485
What facts?

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>>8616424
>>8616433
Classic /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616520
That she’s fat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
She isn't a tranny and she doesn't have a boyfriend, so it's not surprising that Holocucks wouldn't want to watch her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Sorry rather watch that gorilla vtuber if its for apex gameplay

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615987
This.
If we talk only about Holo audience:
70% won't watch her, because they don't know she exists;
20% won't watch her, because they see low numbers, compared to Holo and won't even give a chance;
5% won't watch her, because they are retards and niji antis;
5% give her a chance and either stay or just leave, if it's not their type of content.

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>>8616627
>she doesn't have a boyfriend
Yes she does, me

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>>8615717
I don't like fat people ok?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616841
I don't mind, smaller chats mean more interaction directly, but it's still weird that people have the "low views = bad" logic. Where do people think indies come from? 10000 viewer streams?

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>>8616870
So you don't like Polka, Okayu and Mio?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616894
Directly interact with superchat anon cmon

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616870
Come on anon, Learn to love yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616894
Most holofags don't give a shit about indies. They think that Hololive is the definition of vtuber, and others are just copying them.

[Anonymous No.]

In the EN community, vtubers aren't known as vtubers, but as hololives. That should give you an indication why quality doesn't matter, if it has the hololive stamp it's automatically more popular.

[Anonymous No.]

APEX? holy shit noone else plays that, i have to sub to her right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617107
Any other female vtubers, who were top 500 preds in the past?

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>>8615833
God i love her so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615817
>>8615914
>>8616570
>>8616870
She used to compete in track and field. Her design and her mascot's design are based on racing. You have absolutely no proof that she's fat. Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617303
You say that, as if it's a great achievement. I could also say did any Nijis get 100M views on a video in the past?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617303
Idk anything about Apex but Matsuri is a predator

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just impressed that she is able to fill a lot of the dead air that usually plagues Apex streams. Sure, some of it is just her laughing, but she does talk a lot about the ongoing game itself. Not something I see often in many female EN vtubers. I like that she is an aggressive player too, and doesn't try to hide all game (borefest).

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>>8617465
Matsuri is master-ranked, stupid.

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>>8617501
He's not talking about the game, stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617458
I know when I hear a fat person, you dumb faggot. You can watch her all day, but I can't stand that obese voice. It is grating on my ears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617588
>fat
sorry but she is just chubby

[Anonymous No.]

Where are the clips of her being completely out of breath and gasping for air? The clips of her gulping a drink loudly? Yeah that's what I thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617461
>You say that, as if it's a great achievement
I said that, because previous anon sarcastically said that she is not unique among many vtubers playing apex.
I answered that I want to watch female vtuber apex predator, and those are much more unique than regular apex playing vtubers.
>I could also say did any Nijis get 100M views on a video in the past?
Comparing an actual skill level with a dumb numbers that can be generated by some lucky hype streak... Ogey...

>>8617465
Noice!

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>>8615717
but i hate apex. anyone know some vtuber that plays dota?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617688
Many play League. Interested?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
She’s ugly and Chinese

[Anonymous No.]

>Apex

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>>8616870
Self-hating is not healthy fat-anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
>Is not Lumi from CyberLive
Sorry anon, you need meds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617618
Still fat tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
The best thing /vt/ ever did was convince me to watch vtubers outside Hololive and it made me realize how superior most are at just being fun at entertaining. It made me realize that it wasnt just me getting sick of the hobby, it was just HoloEN being incredibly boring to watch.

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>>8617726
clearly you're not a dota player if you dare ask me that. we hate lol like /a/ hates /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617843
I have a bunch of friends who play both. Go figure

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617822
Whatever you say fatty. You sound like you were bullied in the playground with how weight-focused you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617822
don't care, i will keep watching and supporting my Dragon wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
You lost me at
> Apex

[Anonymous No.]

The best thing /vt/ ever did was convince me to watch vtubers outside Hololive and it made me realize how superior most are at just being fun at entertaining. It made me realize that it wasnt just me getting sick of the hobby, it was just HoloEN being incredibly boring to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>8618010
>wojack
>no green text
i accept your defeat

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617829
Same goes for me, but I had to lurk my way out of holoprison with my own hands, without any help from anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8618268
Hah, for me it was the hololive fan community who gave me a big help. They showed their true colors, so I could quickly and painlessly unmember/unsub the holos and never looked back since then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617829

For me it was the utter state of the /jp/ hololive thread that eventually drove me to look here for some non-schizo falseflag hololive discussion, abouttwo weeks or so after Lazulight debuted. I saw the NijiEN thread in the catalog and thought their models looked cute, lurked, watched a Pomu stream and was instantly hooked. Now I watch NijiEN even over HoloJP most of the time (except for my kamioshi Pekora).

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>>8615717
I don't like the design or the voice

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>>8615817
>he believed the rrats without question

[Anonymous No.]

>For me it was the utter state of the /jp/ hololive thread that eventually drove me to look here for some non-schizo falseflag hololive discussion, abouttwo weeks or so after Lazulight debuted. I saw the NijiEN thread in the catalog and thought their models looked cute, lurked, watched a Pomu stream and was instantly hooked. Now I watch NijiEN even over HoloJP most of the time (except for my kamioshi Pekora).

[Anonymous No.]

>>8618502
I feel pity for poor ignorant people, who stay in hololive bubble and miss out so much fun stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8618960
You don't have to worry, soon Hololive will have their own ecosystem. And of course, they'll lock the algorithym even harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617458
The reps are incredibly easy to do, anon. Selen is an architectural marvel.

[Anonymous No.]

I normally only watch VOMs and indies, but when I do watch a corporate vtuber it does tend towards holos. Anyway, someone posted her in a holothread the other day and I gotta say she's pretty damn funny in collabs. I like how her stoner voice contrasts the anime-girl voices the rest are doing. You've got a good chuuba here, Anon.

I'll never watch her apex streams though. Fucking despise that game.

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>>8615717
To be fair she could probably expand the influence of vtubers in general if she was good at something else. Nobody outside of a select group of autists gives a fuck about Apex Legends. If she was good at something that people actually care about like CoD, Rainbow Six, or CS:GO, maybe should would expand her audience.

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>>8619104
I despise everything about Apex and never watched more than five minutes of it prior to Selen, but the combination of her competency and running commentary have somehow made them enjoyable streams.
Playing a bunch of RTS or 4X classics would definitely win her a neglected and eager niche of manchildren, even if she sucked at them. Strategy filters girls so hard it's funny.

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>>8615717
fuck off this is hololive board, bring ur shitty streamer to >>/jp/ instead

[Anonymous No.]

>Apex. dominated by men.
Being good at a video game, just because you're a woman is not a particularly high accomplishment. That makes it seem you set the bar low to get higher praise for doing the bare minimum. That tactic reminds me a lot of Chopped. You wouldn't know how many times I've heard a woman chef saying how she "wants to be a role model in a male dominated industry". Kind of funny that's the go to statement when the cliche for women is that they should go or stay in the kitchen. If being a woman chef is such an accomplishment, then shouldn't that sexist statement of going to the kitchen be turned into praise instead? I'll telling you to go to the kitchen so that you may reclaim your authority in this male dominated industry. Making a sandwich for me is just one step toward that lofty goal.

[Anonymous No.]

Rosemi is the better niji, she's the best EN niji

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>>8615717
I'm an Apex fag and I can’t stand her for more than half an hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619223
You should get a gold medal for mental gymnastics

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619249
finally some reasonable anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619249
Losemi

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
She's high-spec and I like her, but she kind of wears you down over time. You really have to be in the mood for Selen because she will drain you.

Rosemi stream though no, that's a very good balance and I'll watch her all day. Petra is a good xanax.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619249
The best NijiEN is Finana but this is a conversation that plebs aren't ready to have yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619249
>>8619322
Why are Rosebuds like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619349
Your cunt is annoying as fuck and is only notable because she is really good at one of the most popular games in vtuber circles. Otherwise she sucks. Just accept this truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619383
The only reason I started to watch her is because she played SC and SS. But good try, pink sock faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>8618998
To be honest, I really doubt that they would succeed at creating an ecosystem. They are already past their peak and sliding downhill. I give them only 6 more months until they lose their leadership in the west.
I am not trying to cope, just stating that all their recent "big things", like alternative, error, en2 and others are much lower quality than holofags expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615767
fpbp

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>>8615717
APEX ruined Matsuri, I'm never gonna support any vtuber playing APEX no matter what

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Nothing against Nijis but she's kinda toxic and a bit 1-dimensional. If Niji fans love her then good for them I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617466
I really like how she commentates her own plays so I know what the fuck is happening, it's really nice for casual fans like me

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619569
Don't worry anon, Selen don't play in ladder anymore, she even have the reasoning as you. In one of her streams she talked about people playing Apex to get Predator rank and going insane. She just play normals for the lulz

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>>8615717
I find her filler cackle and the way she speaks (like she's telling you a really funny story but it's not funny, ala El Risitas) extremely annoying, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619631
>She doesn't
>she even have the same reasoning as you
fuck, sorry its too late here... i will go to sleep

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619607
I see, another holofag who didn't watch her at all and tries to speak about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619607
>she's kinda toxic
Wow, Selen is tranny repellent? This just keeps getting better and better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
but I did give her a chance. I don't mind the casual Apex streams but her voice and laugh filters me. Tried couple more streams then I realize its just a hassle to do.
t. Holofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619527
You absolutely have no idea what you're talking about
>holofags
>I'm not even trying to cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
I don't know if her laughter would count as a personality but her voice reminds me of a badly done dubbed anime voice.
Besides, Hololive already has a hag gamer girl and her name is Botan and she is wholesome as fuck. She's smart, competent, reliable to her mates and has this contagious laughter that is not forced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
I'm allergic to chinks and I really fucking wish she didn't exposed herself with speaking Cantonese. She seemed cool though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619873
Just based on your last two lines, it becomes completely obvious that it's in fact you, who absolutely has no idea of what you are talking about.
>holofag sees someone criticizing holo
>cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620034
She sounds like Artia, it was obvious from the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Let people get filtered, Selen's chat is comfy

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619991
>Botan
>Nip, cannot put 2 words in English
>Boring, weak personality, compared to Selen
>Shows off her skills only against other holomembers, who are incompetent in a game, or in a low-ranked lobbies
>Lied about her apex rank

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617801
>>8617458
>>8617025
seems like I hurt some fatties feelings, sorry anons but you should take care of your bodies instead of shitposting here

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620115
It's alright, i don't have to "argue" with you further, I'll be there when EN will have it's 5th Gen, utterly dominating the west. Afterall, i've been with Holo since they were making noise to the Vtubing scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Spoonfeed me some streams or clips that's not Apex so I can give her a proper chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620337
There are none.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620337
She has never played a non apex game

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619527
>I give them only 6 more months until they lose their leadership in the west.
Kek. Like NijiEN all you want, but don't OD on the copium man.

[Anonymous No.]

You can easily tell why Hololive rejected her

[Anonymous No.]

>A Gorilla
>Is amazing at games
>Is currently a predator in Apex, a game dominated by homosapiens
>A Gorilla

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619527
>en2 and others are much lower quality than holofags expected.
Idk what bubble or split threads you're in, but even in this cesspool, people are very pleased with HoloCouncil.
Just take a quick look at /hlgg/. The viewcount numbers don't lie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620337
Her Serious Sam 1 HD or Metal Slug playthroughs are both great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620312
I am sorry to say that, but there won't be a 5'th gen. So I guess you are staying here forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
she's entertaining, but i find apex fucking boring no matter of the skill of the streamer
i liked her minecraft streams
also stop with the tribalism bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617458
>She used to compete in track and field.
Every competitive athlete gets fat as fuck when they retire from competition. They turn into couch potatoes but maintain the same caloric intake that they had while competing. Easy targets for journeyman architects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
I love selen but I can't watch her more than 30 minutes before my head hurts from the constant laughing
it is actually filtering me, I look forward to her settling down.
but you're right many wont give her a chance because she isn't a holo.

it is called brand loyalty, not it is not healthy for the industry, yes brand loyal viewers do miss out.
but there are enough holos that holofans are content.
if you have a life, work and friends, just 2-3 holos will produce enough content that you wont keep up without neglecting work, friend or your health.
They have no reason to step outside the holobubble and trying to shame them about it wont fix that.
the best you can do is tolerate their choices and do the things you enjoy doing.
but this is /vt/ so all we're going to do is whine and rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620485
Wtf!? Who cares about your threads when it's obvious just by holoen2 viewers alone. They reclined massively, compared to holoen1. Just compare their post-debut stream and you'll see what I am talking about. Or even better yet, wait 2 more weeks to see how disastrous it really is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
no, I just won't give her a chance because people have used her avatar to shitpost so often that I've just become predisposed to dislike her whenever I see her. I can't in good concience say I'd be able to give her a fair shake at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
If she were actually entertaining then people would watch her regardless of company

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620419
I didn't say a word about Niji. VShojo alone will be enough to overtake Holo by then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Is amazing at game (APEX), not games. Unless she was trying to hide her powerlevel, so far,outside of APEX, she was pretty average in other games at best. Still funny, though

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620669
And in 2 weeks NijiEN will be 2 views.

Oh wait they already are lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620731
I will bet you 1 BTC they won't

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620513
I just watched some clips of the metal slug collab and Finana was a treat. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620209
This is why I will never watch Selen. No matter how entertaining she might be, I don’t want to be grouped together with retarded Dragoons like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620513
I just watched some clips of the metal slug collab and Finana was terrible. Fuck you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620772
>And in 2 weeks NijiEN will be 2 views.
Ok, waiting 2 weeks. Are you gonna eat your shit, if by then youtube won't show "2 views" in at least 1 of their VOD's view count?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
you do know that fans are representative of the streamer and selenfags here are fucking obnoxious, so no

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620780
To bad, a retarded neet children like you, living in their parent's basement don't have 1 btc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620840
For a shitposter, your skin is surprisingly thin. You're actually seething lmao.
Go to sleep, kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620840
*tips fedora* In 2 weeks I'll unsheathe my katana of darkness in order to protect m'lady Selen, be there or be square sunday 2pm pst bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620866
if you're too scared to put your money where your mouth is just say so

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620824
>someone spoken facts
>I don’t want to be grouped together with retarded Dragoons like this
Clearly shows a state of idiocy, most holofags are in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620669
Kronii: 35k/33k
Baelz: 20k/19k
Fauna: 22k
Mumei: 27k
Sana: 10k/9k

>you'll see what I am talking about
I don't. I just see very big numbers for EN vtubers, like 2-3x their closest competition and a very promising start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620840
They already are 2 views when you take out anykara's bot numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620874
Lmao, looks like we have a newfag right here. Now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620897
Why do I need to put something against a retarded neet kid, who could not possibly match? Now be a good member of society and go finish your homework.

[Anonymous No.]

>Selen said that she is worried that she couldn’t make connections in EN Vtuber scene
>”Selenfans” try to pick a fight and burn bridges all over
Do you guys actually watch her, or are you all falseflaggers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620912
>>8620866
Zhang?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620940
Read my post again more thoroughly and don't say stupid things next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8621030
>Selen cried and whined about being unpopular and stuff
>while being the most popular in her generation
Kinda fucked up desu. How must that make the others feel when she acts like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620942
Oh really? Well, in this case, holo has no views at all without their bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8621052
See you in 2 weeks then, nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8621088
See you, and prepare yourself to eat some shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8621123
Try not to kill yourself when most of them still have 2-3x your oshi's numbers in 2 weeks.
You CAN kill yourself in 6 months tho when they don't lose their lead in the EN market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8621175
>when most of them still have 2-3x your oshi's numbers in 2 weeks
Lmao, says anon, without even knowing who my oshi is.
>You CAN kill yourself in 6 months tho when they don't lose their lead in the EN market.
Well, it's a long time till March. The more important thing is that you'll have to eat your shit if no one from NijiEN will have at least 1 vod with 2 or less views in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8621368
>The more important thing is that you'll have to eat your shit if no one from NijiEN will have at least 1 vod with 2 or less views in it.
Talking to the wrong anon, I don't hate on NijiEN.
But if you took >>8620772 seriously, you might be actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615975
Curious!

[Anonymous No.]

I don't watch nor play apex

[Anonymous No.]

>>8621484
>Talking to the wrong anon
Then don't get in other's conversation.
>But if you took >>8620772 seriously, you might be actually retarded.
Retarded are those who imply that others will respect their way of phrasing. He said a thing, he has to answer for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
>brand is the most important thing for numbers
>Selen will make a decent living anyways with her current fanbase and with how she will grow in the next few months
>Having too much success would only make her complacent.
I hate gatekeeping on 4chan since it is elitism and 2021 4chan is incredible garbage not deserving any degree of elitism. But in case of Selen I am glad she isn't getting the holo crowd. Also it isn't really gatekeeping since she is just there and everyone can watch her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620707
So you're just gonna ignore the fact that 90% of /vt/ are tribalfags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619043
There are 3 nijiEN threads per day, going through them all is pain

[Anonymous No.]

>>8622003
>being unironically rep-illiterate
It's for the better though.

[Anonymous No.]

no her design just sucks, instant turn off desu

[Anonymous No.]

I like the dragon. She's cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
>Is in Nijisanji
>Is good at APEX
>Isn't a male
Theres your answer

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Not weird at all. Look at her JP senpais like Utako.
>well known member of Nijisanji
>produces unique content
>3D live garnered over 50k viewers
>barely gets over 5k viewers for her streams
And she isn't the only one. Like it or not, people do know about Nijisanji espeacially on the JP side but something is clearly filtering people to most of their content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620519
If one thing's Hololive ever taught me, it's how they persist to die, and rebound harder.

>Mel
They should've died from that, but no, the issue is almost completely burried
>Permissions yada yada
Capcom or whoever stroke them could've sued Hololive, and thus, limiting a small amount of games, resulting for talents to quit, but no
>Aloe
Hindering JP5's growth and affecting the gen's mental health i guess
>China debacle
2 moves, graduate Coco, or choose the west and if they did graduate Coco, they would've died right there.

This is once a very small of a tech company that took upon a chance on Sora and A-chan, took a Virtual Youtubing as a side project, by chance. Only for it to grow as the Behemoth that it is today. The more Generation it creates, the popular it becomes. I'm very optimistic for their future, even fans in different market is brewing, such as KR and ES, Hololive will conquer, And as a fan, i couldn't be more happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
She acts like a teenage boy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8621655
So you're just gonna ignore the fact that a large part of NijiENs viewers are also HoloEN viewers? How many KFP names appear in their chats? The fact that many of the same SC names appear on both NijiEN and HoloEN streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
I don't watch any FPS streams no matter the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616183
The earlier seasons had a glitch to never lose RP if she actually did make it she did it by cheating shes worse than the average plat player which is saying a lot aonce everyone under diamond spends the whole game eating glue

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619527
They already barely collaborate outside of their own company. Only ID and some of the early generation girls bother anymore, and since ID is having more auditions it's probably going to take the same route. It sucks that we are missing out on potentially cool collabs but numbers take top priority now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8622975
t. gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
>apex

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620751
Watch the video of her playing with an apex pro, she did nothing but get shit on and cackle the whole way through, it was disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

sorry OP, I can barely keep up with 3 of my Apex obsessed oshis...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8623399
Anon... sweating at a game and streaming are 2 different things

[Anonymous No.]

>>8623595
>laugh in Noah, Bora, Puti, Sumire Kaga, Kisaragi Ren, Pakael.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8623819
no Met, no love

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615817
Yes and

[Anonymous No.]

So anyone guessed who the next week guest is? Octopus? Alien? Tentacle? It cant be Ina since she's not an apex addict. Pikamee then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8623847
I always thought Met is part of VSPO. Turn out she was from 774inc. Incidentally, I also thought VSPO is one of 774inc's branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8623779
And shes not good at either

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619527
Holofag here who also watches Rosemi and Pomu, Hololive losing their lead in the industry doesn't bother me at all. As others here have put it, even if their audience shrinks that just means more for people like me who have been following for a long time. I'm already satisfied and proud with what they've achieved, already carved their names onto the history of vtubing like Kizuna Ai so while I'll be sad if they lose their leadership, I'd still be following them like I always have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620337
https://youtu.be/VWT3RHaR-dQ
https://youtu.be/LFmGtubWFaQ
https://youtu.be/2xPce1JTt1Y
https://youtu.be/mtaeNJZZLAA
https://youtu.be/XjE-8uOI5Ss

[Anonymous No.]

>>8623958
Jellyfish?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8623958
>>8624884
Bao maybe? Does she play Apex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8624648
What a respectable anon, I hope there are more like you in this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
I certainly won't give ever her a chance because her obnoxious fans shill her and spam the catalogue with her all the fucking time. Fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

I don't watch her for the same reason I don't watch The Big Bang Theory. I hate when people only laugh for the sake of laughing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8624924
Bao doesn't have tentacles. She played Apex with Uto but normally she doesn't play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7omPKr2CVq8&ab_channel=MurasakiRingoVtuberClips%26Compilations

You were saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620479
You forgot that he's good at singing.

[Anonymous No.]

she isn't bad at apex but you can tell the selenfags on here don't know shit about apex because when they gas her up all they say is FORMER PRED FORMER PRED as if she's shown us anything else than plat at best in terms of gameplay so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>8622943
>being loyal to one company
ngmi

Just watch what you like. No need to limit yourself like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625466
she's even said herself that she isn't pred level and people keep saying this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617458
On her debut she said she liked playing volleyball. I think she just made up some stuff so we wouldn't all realize she's a fat nerd that plays vidya 16 hours a day. I don't really care how much of a hamplanet she is as long as she's entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625466
She isn't bad. But these Selenfags should have known that Selen isn't going to be actually good at Apex either.

[Anonymous No.]

But she's in NijiEN and that's fine. I will not watch her even if she is really talented. If she was in hololive I would but since she isn't I never will. There is nothing wrong with that, NijiEN has fans and they aren't me.

[Anonymous No.]

lmaoooo women on predator is the equivalent of a men playing on platinum

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625726
none of the flexing is coming from her it's 100% just idiots who have never watched an apex stream before so they don't have any frame of reference. it's valid not to know the game or to dislike apex but then don't use it to shill your oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625775
it makes me wonder if those people even watched vtubers before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8624190
Only thing that matters in 774 is Rene.
I think someone needs to make a flow chart of these groups because shit is confusing to follow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625825
It was clipped, you can watch it.

>>8625799
Absolute retard

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7omPKr2CVq8&ab_channel=MurasakiRingoVtuberClips%26Compilations

Just to remind people

[Anonymous No.]

>female
>amazing at games

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625922
toastie roastie

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625922
what was clipped, dragoon? because i'm talking about what i saw on her stream as selen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Imagine bragging the "apex predator" badge on us Holobronies when we could care less about apex after it fucked up Aqua

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625922
coping fanboy kek
shes not your friend or certainly not your lover, you dont have to shill so hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625939
>>8625951
>>8625982
Woah, triggered.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>8625906
it's really not, the only reason why >>8624190 got confused is because VSPO and VAPART are similar in some ways. I don't blame him because the name VAPART is never mentioned compared to VSPO


rene is nice but there's a lot of great cute girls in 774

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625975
She's definitely not pred level so they don't even know what they're bragging about

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626007
tourist outed. feel free to crawl back to discord any time

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626050
The irony in this meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626050
It's literally the opposite, holofags have nijicucks rent free and spout numbers all day

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626050
*CLAP CLAP*
NEXT MEME!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626303
Because Nijis live rent free in their head and try to one up them with more variety

But lack numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625466
Diamond I would say. But not any higher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626303
>n-no you
Sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615817
>he doesn’t enjoy fat bitches

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626050
See what so many threads shitting on 2434 really means. Desperate tribalism screaming in anger

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626483
/vt/ is always about tribalism

I mean its not our fault that Selen isn't that good in Apex

[Anonymous No.]

Tribalism is fucking gay, let me enjoy whoever I want. I can disagree with some nijis yet enjoy some of their streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626548
>"S-she's not even good!"
Still better than you.

[Anonymous No.]

which season she got her pred?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626050
>>8626483
>restricting yourself by watching a single company because ???
i'll never understand this

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626641
Good cause Battle Royales are cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626548
Show me someone that's good by your standards then or seethe harder

[Anonymous No.]

>8626641
and i thought gura was the one with an underage fanbase KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626641
The average diamond player is far above her

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626698
I would if I care about apex

[Anonymous No.]

No one said she's shit at apex, she knows how to play she's just not the Shibuya Hal you guys say she is

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626704
please andastand, babby's first vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626721
you sound like a mad cuz bad case

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626675
i like to hope no one actually does this and /vt/ tribalist posts are just LARP

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626873
Simply by the numbers it's proven that holobronies do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626870
You must be at least 18years old to post on 4channel dot org

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626870
Nah, its because of Battle Royales is what created Fortnite and god knows you niji spergs would flock over to that game if Selen or any of your EN cucks play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626900
i'm not sure that they do it for tribalist reasons. sometimes they don't know other vtubers, other times (most of the time) hololive already has a lot of vtubers and they don't have time to watch any more. i think that's different from deliberately avoiding chuubas because of the brand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Since you mentioned Hololive, Gen5 only had Botan who was watchable. Nene had her "nenenenenenenenenenene" shtick which was annoying as hell and she droped it a month later. Lamy had her wahwahwahwahwahwah thing and while she still goes easy into panic mode she isn't as vocal anymore about it. If Selen finds a sweetspot and reduces her laughter i might check her out again in a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626931
You should graduate from this site after you hit 21 old man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626900
i think it's mostly because hololive have more exposure in the west because of clippers, but nijien is catching up

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Not into chinese chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>8626952
It's okay anon, I bet you rock a sweet dirt block house in minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

>Is a Niji
>Is a chink

Nah. I'm fine with ignoring her

[Anonymous No.]

>>8627178
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>8627178
>holochink is a okay
>nijichink is not
/vt/, everyone. >>8627178

[Anonymous No.]

>>8627241
Which Holo members are chinks? Koreans arent soulless bugmen

[Anonymous No.]

>>8623135
Literally what does that have to do with anything? Or are you going to say that /vt/ autists make up even 10% of vtuber clicks?

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisanji
I don't care if she is the best vtuber of all time. I will not watch her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619322
>You really have to be in the mood for Selen because she will drain you.

God I hope so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8627266
>don't even remember the chink division
Tourist chama...

[Anonymous No.]

I will suffer not a holo, a niji, or a vshojo to enter my mind.
I am loyal to my indie 2view, your tribalism has no power over me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8627266
Imagine thinking there is one Korea

[Anonymous No.]

I gauge good vtubers by coming to this shithole and see who you retards make the most negative threads about because then it shows who you cannot stop watching them. I only see positive saviourfag posts about Selen so I know it is going to be absolutely shit, because it means she is going to be behave like you fucking idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

>I gauge good vtubers by coming to /vt/
Opinion discarded post hidden not gonna read more than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>8627810
Once again, but with less grammatical errors, please, Zhang?

[Anonymous No.]

If you see multiple hate threads about vtubers where the only repeating complaints are superficial shit then you know that they're actually worth checking out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
She could be the world's best and most entertaining stamp collector. It doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck about stamps, so I'm not gonna watch her. Same logic applies to least common denominator dogshit like Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620772
says the guy who watches a company that needs to bot a sub count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8628330
I like how this is the only complaint about her when she's the only single vtuber who plays games like Starcraft.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you want hololive fans to see it? Didn't they say they don't care about visits and would you rather see someone with 13 people looking at them? rest assured that we never will

[Anonymous No.]

>>8628506
There is actually some indies that play Starcraft too

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625466
Selen is an actual pred though, not like your autistic onion Aqua who can't even get into masters.

NA is harder than JP btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8628487
Not our fault Nijinigger black company can't pay for their own sub bots, they don't even pay wage for their own failing liver >kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619322
>You really have to be in the mood for Selen because she will drain you.

[Anonymous No.]

I love how all the tourists say she is only an Apex player when she literally plays retro games almost as much as Korone does.

Yeah, Starcraft, Metal Slug, and Onimusha are totally Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Selen made me realize that english chuubas could be good

[Anonymous No.]

>>8628506
>she's the only single vtuber who plays games like Starcraft.
you need to get out of your hole, jesas
>>8628506
>ignores complaints about her guttural voice and annoying laugh
sure thing anon. she's not your friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>8628642
>nijinigger
I don't see Sana in nijiEN do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
sounds like niji needs to pickup the support then

[Anonymous No.]

>>8628669
this desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
you guys know this shit don't work here right? this ain't reddit where people will give her pity views. and you're wasting your time and money on this holo vs. niji rrat cuz no one cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8628533
Indies are automatically on a higher tier than niji/holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
since selen is /here/ it stands to reason she'd know others who visit here at well
you fags can stop astroturfing anytime now

[Anonymous No.]

>>8625466
>>8625775
>>8625825
>>8626172
>>8626548
>>8626716
I'm guessing you all are using twitch sweats as reference and never made past gold yourself?
>FORMER PRED FORMER PRED
Getting pred is a matter of communication and having a tight squad, it's next to impossible to do it with your own pure skill. Refer to matsuri getting masters and astel doing it on his own, there's a clear skill gap between the 2 and they are the same rank. It goes the same for selen, she got to pred but with her bros offstream, like everyone else. Lastly she made the point multiple times that she doesn't sweat anymore and streams it for fun because grinding apex is soulsucking and not fit for making entertaining streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8631006
I solo queued to pred the day the new season was released. It's fairly easy at the start because former Masters and Pred are dilluted into the sea of diamond shitters and so long as there isn't 751 Masters everyone at 10k RP is pred. Hell I'd say Aqua could do it offstream since she woldn't have to contend with streamsnipers then.

[Anonymous No.]

I enjoy vtubers. I hope one day (you) can enjoy them too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Watching someone outside hololive? I just consume hololive products and get excited for next hololive products so get fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>8631572
? But did you keep the rank until the season ended? Selen got 2 badges. You also seem to be implying she cheesed it as well.
>>8633175
Love selen

[Anonymous No.]

>>8631572
>I solo queued to pred the day the new season was released
Not the anon but using yourself as an argument against a statistical fact (and the statistics of apex ranks are well-known) does not disprove it. At most it proves you are an outlier. Assuming you are not bullshitting, that is.

[Anonymous No.]

Also pred badges don't show what season. She could have gotten carried in season 2 for all we know.
I don't think Selen is bad I just think people latch on that badge just to justify tribalist shitposts about a chuuba who actually doesn't care about tryharding on stream. Selen will never tryhard on stream, I can already tell she will be insufferable if she starts taking salt for anything about apex. Please, Selenbros, don't give your oshi salt. It wont be funny nor will she get very far on ranked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615833
Matsuri did that to herself, playing solo for so many streams and breaking down under pressure during tournaments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8633818
Anonchama... every badge has different art for its season

[Anonymous No.]

>>8633818
If you know her previous persona even before vtuber, then you would know she was a top 500 Overwatch player multiple times!

Also she was pred 3x in Apex, 2 in the easy seasons and 1 in top 500 playing in different teams.

She hardly streamed ranked because the vibe wasn't it when she did. But she wasn't carried from the games she did play back then.

Hope this helps for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8633318
It was way easier to keep the pred before Master rank and the 750 limit were introduced. #1 #8799 made no difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8634063
Her previous career obviously didn't go far if she's in Niji now. She didn't go pro either so I have no idea why you guys keep pushing this narrative that she could with those stats. And finally, you says she hasn't been carried but she's been playing with groups. Can you tell me how well she contributed? She literally said on stream she's too reliant on getting carried multiple times when talking about ranked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8634319
>750 limit were introduced
The first limit was 500 people in season 4, she got pred for seasons 3 and 4.
>>8634326
>Can you tell me how well she contributed?
By what metric?
>She literally said on stream she's too reliant on getting carried multiple times when talking about ranked.
She talks about how she can play aggressive and not worry about having your teammates not follow up or fail to cleanup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
I checked out a few of her streams, she was alright. But I'm hard filtered by the apex shit, there is pretty much nothing that turns me off from a vtuber more than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
Her voice is shit, it makes me want to strangle her everytime she talks

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, I HAVE A REALLY GOOD POKER FACE

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635625
sorry she is already my wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
I love her quite a bit, Selen's great.

[Anonymous No.]

>schizo chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616173
She's the actual vtuber that plays a variety of different games anon. She's playing through the Starcraft campaign and just completed Serious sam remaster

[Anonymous No.]

>>8617588
>I know when I hear a fat person
No you don't you fucking schizo retard

[Anonymous No.]

Just goes to show people on this board really just get their impressions of vtuber from this board and decided whether to watch them based of it.
>fat
>apex
You people are sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8635486
Your brain is shit. Strangle yourself instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
>is amazing at games
She wasn't that good at Star Craft, but her fuck ups made it even more endearing.

Also, would Selen be able to work for Hololive? I always thought Hololive was more strict in what they let people do than Nijisanji. Especially the amount of sexual innuendos

[Anonymous No.]

Oh nooo... Anon, you came inside? You said you'd pull out I trusted youHAHAHAHA! And you came so fast HAHAHA you said you can edge for an hour when you jerk off HAHAHAHAHA! YOU LIED TO ME GAHAHAHA! It's okayyyy I lied too when I said it was a safe day HAHAHAHA DON'T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD PULL OUT AND THEN YOU WENT AND CREAMED YOURSELF IN 15 SECONDS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE THE REASON THEY MAKE FUN OF VIRGINS HAHAHAHAHAHA! Woo... bum ba ba bum, bum bum ba bum bum... Man, my boyfriend is going to be sooo mad when I end up pregnant hahaha... Wait, no, he doesn't know! HAHAHA I'LL JUST TELL HIM ITS HIS KID, HE DOESN'T KNOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*wheeze*AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638913
watch more stream instead of clips then

[Anonymous No.]

>>8639426
I did, though her metal slug stream was a turn off when the chat turned out to be reddit normalfags who all started to spam reddit cancer like booba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8616059
Yes you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620277
yeah, your feelings

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638913
>Also, would Selen be able to work for Hololive?
Yes, but it wouldn't be the same in terms of content... in Niji she has more freedom since the permission shit is faster... In HoloLive she would still be my HAHAHA wife but... in HoloLive she unironically would transform herself in HoloEN RBC
>Especially the amount of sexual innuendos
tomboy dragon tends to ignore the yuri pandering and sexual jokes, unless her collab partner keeps pushing (see Petra collab). Ofc sometimes she slips (see Resident Evil stream)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8639876
>RBC
Eh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8619488
Selen is slowly turning into the nostalgia game streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8639925
Apex chubba
since HoloLive takes too much time for permissions Selen probably would take Apex streams more seriously while waiting for games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638433
You need to say "we" as in "we're sad". You're not exempt from this either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8620277
Projection is not healthy desu.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638992
i haven't seen this pasta in a while
glad to see ntrfag still going strong

[Anonymous No.]

>>8638336
>>8640152
>replying to 10hr old posts
you need to curb your obsession anon, it's not healthy for you to be this crazy about defending someone. it only provokes more shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8642567
>you need to curb your obsession
sir this is /vt/ parasocial relations are the norm
and i will die defending my chubby dragon

[Anonymous No.]

>>8642567
I just read the last few posts.
Someone recently replied >>8639704
and there's a convenient link which shows you what post they replied to.
Looking at the time of each post and mentally computing whether it is still acceptable to reply seems dumber to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8643350
https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1430581411774226434

[Anonymous No.]

>>8645015

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
I don't watch her because she is not in Hololive, but because she is in Nijisanji.
I do watch indies and some vtubers in smaller groups, but the Nijisanji fandom kept me away from everything associated with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8615717
I don’t watch Selen because she is fat and her nervous tic is annoying, simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8647063
Nijisanji will deny you, but they don't welcome Holo fans, It's always been like that since they were making rounds on the west and JP. facebook, reddit, youtube clips,