Mizuryu Kei Disavowing Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Check out his Twitter right now, it's going to soon turn into a shitshow.

What of Alternative now? Bandai Namco cranking up the pressure on him because they're scared for IM@S?

Bilibili/NGA trying to cancel him as a VTuber because he's working with the filthy American devil?

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I cannot decipher these moonrunes

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>>861185
Translate this for us, faggot

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Already a thread up check the catalog

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>>861185
Are u saying he got brainwashed/hypnotized/mind-controlled?

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>>861224
Do your reps, dipshit

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Seems salty that he couldn't get more out of the deal when dealing with a corporation. Flew too close to the sun and got burned like Icarus.

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>>861185
More food for Shirataki's Vtuber Flaming report

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>>861185
Hero Hei video incoming

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>>861491
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

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>>861491
The Clickbaiting Fag?

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>>861491
what kind of faggot unironically watches shit like this?

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he is replacable though. what can be damaging is whether or not he was really given a bad deal. but it seems to me he's been profiting quite abit from hololive already

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>>861185
Great now hire a real artist like Oda Non

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More active thread here
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>>861968
I don't even know what that is

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>>861968
His nyanners video is a good one because it redpilled normies on her

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>>862265
>his videos are good when they confirm my bias
you are the reason this cancer exists

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>>861185
He then proceeded to backtrack not even 10 minutes after posting this, then deleted them all, then began streaming on bilibili. This man is a natural born shizo.

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There's something hilarious in seeing a lot of chinese fucktards giving support to a Nanking rape denialist

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>>862397
If it means people realize the truth it can only be a good think. Vshojo a shit, and the more people realize how crooked and garbage it is, the better off we as a species will be.

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>>861491
When Hero Hei called Gura "Gawr" (just Gawr, not Gawr Gura), that's all I needed to know about his expertise in the subject.

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>>861185
Posting a thread about supposed "drama" without providing English translation on an English board. What a retard. Your thread is now hidden, good sir. Please learn proper protocol.

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>>861185
tl;dr
>be hentai artist
>want to be part of a official project
>get asked to stop doing hentai (this is a common thing that all artists get asked when going official, rarely do you get away with it, see: megaman artist)
>say no
>get shafted
>throw a bitchfit on twitter

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>>864885
You mean just like people around here say Mori instead of Calli?

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the bilibili streamer wasnt even him and people close to him are saying cover wanted a cut of his profits for stuff that he did on his own. Sorry, i'm siding with him on this one

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>>865466
>and people close to him are saying
>sources say

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>>865374
The Mori thing is just weird autism at least.

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>>865374
Mori and Calli are interchangable. Gawr just sounds weird.

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>>865466
>sources familiar with his thinking
Good job anon, your rrats sound like real journalism.

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>>861185
Never hire an fans artists especially if they're famous.

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>>865790
as opposed to what, trying to paint an image of him from a streamer that wasn't even him and some memes from rabid fans? Over people that worked with him and involved with his work?

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I nominate Junji Ito for the manga replacement

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>>865833
Who are the people close to him?

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>>865374
Mori actually refers to herself as Mori from time to time. Gura has never just called herself "Gawr".

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>>865833

>>864711
>>861967

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>>861185
Literally who? Probably a shit manga artist anyways.

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>>865972
How did you normalfags even end up here?

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>>861185
>Bilibili/NGA trying to cancel him as a VTuber because he's working with the filthy American devil?
So this is the chinks fault again, somebody tweet the tiananmen square copypasta at the ones trying to cancel HoloAlt.

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>>865972
You're incorrect in your assessment my friend, try again next time.

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>>865374
>>865762
>>865894
>I'm your Mori, hope you'll remember me!

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>>862177
>998 replies
I think I'll stay here

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>>862397
If the content bothers you so much just block his YouTube channel

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>>861185
Earliest at the bottom

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Is it a story of Cover being incompetent, or a story about an artist being a little bitch? Maybe a bit of both? Who can tell.

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>giving a shit about retard face tier artists like Mizuryu Kei

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>>866196
He was probably angling for a night with Marine but negotiations fell through, I would be pissed too

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>>866196
For now, the sane conclusion that it's both, with the latter slightly winning out with his twitter meltdown. I can easily buy the bad communications from Cover, but he himself as a hentai artist should've known that it was stupid to try to publish a doujin on a project he was working on since most artists don't do that for obvious reasons, or at least should've published it under a different name or something.

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>>866196
>Cover being incompetent
Cover doesnt know how that big artists are fucking crazy theres a reason why corporations NDA the shit out of them

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>>861185
Based Mizuryu exposing Cover for what a shitty company they actually are beneath all the Yahoo memes.

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>>866282
That picture always creeped me out. It looks like she is infested with the chestburster from alien

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>>865306
Isn't it even probably worse than that?
>be hentai artist
>draw doujins
>get hired by company to write their manga, sign contract
>Start drawing Hololive doujins months into the contract
>Company probably didn't ask you not to do this initially because they're incompetent but also didn't expect anyone to be able to survive with so few brain cells
>Get asked to not be retarded
>Bitchfit

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>>866196
I have no faith in Cover so Cover

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Oh no, not a shitty h-mangaka
How will they ever recover?
There's just no way that they could ever get another mangaka with comparable or better skill and actual experience with serialization to draw their manga for them!
Oh wait

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>>866370
I don't know that sounds like you were traumatized by the Alien movie

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>>866455
they can't cuz they're incompetent

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>>866533
Not that incompetent, especially not at hiring people / talent. There's literal thousands chomping at the bit at a chance of a succesful serialization that were either failures or only semi succesful. Fuck man, shonen magazines churn out a dozen each a year.

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Is this the non-narrative thread?

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>>866455
Mizuryu Kei is very influential

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>>865374
Calli herself included? Shitstirring cocksucker.

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>>866578
>"very influential"
He's a hentai mangaka with some OVA series made from his h-manga. He's a nobody in the actual mangaka world. He doesn't even have any sway in the industry, he's not like someone like Nihei who's not neccessarily super commerically succesful but has a lot of sway in the industry and other mangaka.
He's just another h-mangaka.

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>>866629
That's the problem anon. He's just like any other h-mangaka. This would mean that other h-mangaka would see this and will now think twice about working with Cover. I mean even someone who relatively made it in their industry is fucked.

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imagine throwing a fit and burning all bridges when managers tell you no, you can't get in contact with the sexy boomer pirate you're dying to fuck/rape

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>>866761
Well, he's obviously a retard too, so there's that.
Not to mention that Cover is basically over needing to hire pure h-mangaka. And h-mangaka have no "loyalty" to their ilk anyways, 99% of them go legit if they even have the slightest chance. Even fucking Tosh is a pure Jump mangaka now.

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>>866798
It isn't about loyalty. It's about how you will be treated. Jump treats everyone equally and fairly. Cover won't. They are a bad company.

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>>866786
The managers are already doing that themselves.

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>>866845
>Jump treats everyone equally and fairly
You literally just outed yourself as someone that has no fucking idea what he's talking about.

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>>866849
god I wish I was a manager too

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What's the trumpet right now?

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>>866761
1 schizo hentai mangaka x a hundred other artists who had no problem working with Cover. And that's not even counting the free publicity and amount of pay you can get if you know how to read a contract before signing lol

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>>866455
>There's just no way that they could ever get another mangaka with comparable or better skill and actual experience with serialization to draw their manga for them!
No worries, I got your man.

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>>866857
Anonchama. Everyone new is treated equally as shit. Everyone is on the chopping block for cancellation. You have to make it really good for you to not get cancelled. When you make it, you fucking earned your due and won't be cancel for quite a while. I'm still sad that they axed Agravity Boys but at least they gave it a chance.

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>>866908
Second trumpet.

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>>866966
You literally do not know jackshit dude. Or what, are you a Torikofag? Or a gag fag?

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>>866908
I don't browse general but going by the image I'd say the third one, Cover can still hire another mangaka and act as if nothing happened.

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>>866908
2nd or 3rd

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>>866929
Mizuryu don't need publicity. He knows what he wants to make. He have dignity and self-worth. He won't sell himself short for a quick buck.

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>>866985
>>866966
Oh wait you are a fucking gag fag.
If it wasn't a fucking comedy manga it'd been cancelled after like 30 chapters dude. It sold 9k for four volumes straight. It's danger zone if one to the next doesn't increase, but AA still got five fucking volumes.

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>>867010
>dignity

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>>866985
Don't know what you dumb fuck. At least fucking explain what you mean. Jump uses actual ranking. It's as fair as it can get for newcomers. People that's been long in the industry of course will get special privilege since they worked with Jump longer. Fuck off with your stupid jump hate. Cover fucked up, jump didn't.

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>>867058
>Jump uses actual ranking
>He thinks the TOC is a ranking
Oh nononononono

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>>867010
t. Mizuryu

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>>867047
That's pussy. Not a quick buck. The man has priorities and if you can't respect that, just cut off your dick dude.

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>>867058
Not him but your shit runs down to

Cover = not fair because they treat rets like shit
Jump = fair because they treat everyone like shit

Really makes you think

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>>866929
What other artists are doing official manga work for Hololive?

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>>863895
>He's a natural born schizo
What did you expect? Have any of you read his doujinshi? The dude has got a screw loose.

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>>867082
He's never ever going to get anywhere with her and still funneling her money and awkwardly coming onto a co-worker out in the figurative public where everyone can witness his awkwardness.
This man has no dignity.

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>>867010
>Mizuryu
>dignity
>self-worth
loooool you mean the guy who had an actual JAV company threaten to report him to the police because he couldn't stop harassing one of their talents?

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>>867070
It is. It's your own fault if the editor thinks you manga is shit.

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>>867123
yeah they should hire an artist that never drew naked people ever

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>>866254
/thread

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>>867146
Do I have to show you the fucking interviews again you retard? Do I have to show you their own goddamn propaganda manga that directly goes against this statement.
Just shut up about shit you don't know about.

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>>867142
Source?

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>>867133
Why do you think he's stupid? I'm sure he himself knows that but if you don't try, you won't get anywhere.

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>>867174
Because he backtracked from this nonsense not ten minutes later and everyone bore witness of his dipshittery.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY6-OCQWsAYqB0x?format=jpg&name=large
guess who made this

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>>867142
old rrat but this has nothing to do with what's happening

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>>867168
Post it then dumbass. Propaganda is a bold fucking word. Do it.

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Guess I can't express my love for Mizuryus work here anymore. This news is the worst. I wish he'd never been involved in hololive.

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>>867195
Only ironic weebs like his shit anyway

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>>867186
an artist with creative freedom? Why don't you tell everyone what's wrong with it instead?

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>>865374
Only faggots call her Calli. It's Mori on here.

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>>867216
Kill yourself.

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>>867185
You mean Cover threatened to sue his ass for telling everyone what they were doing to him?

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>>867226
Personally I prefer deadbraps

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>>867219
He denies the crucifixion of christ. A fucking heretic I tell you.

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>>867236

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>>867236
more like spilling his spaghetti would've brought some undeserved heat and grifters towards his oshi

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>>867195
I'd rather support self-publishing artists like mizukei that's been at it for over a decade than that corp with a cancer fanbase tbqh

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>>867256
Uhhh?? Based??????

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>>867280
>>867185

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>>867285
t. nijinigger

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>>867195
I don't care much for his doujinshi/eromanga work. I find his themes and style to be boring and samey. I won't deny I enjoyed them initially years and years ago but the fetishes they cater to aren't something I like for their own sake so I just lost interest, and he didn't have any particularly impressive or interesting ideas to make up the difference.
You do you though anon.

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>>867256
k

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>>867194
Source: The right way to make Jump!
https://www.viz.com/the-right-way-to-make-jump

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>>867285
>hololive sux
It's getting really hard to be a fan of Hololive, VShojo, Touhou and Mizuryu Kei on /vt/.

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>>867300
He literally deleted his tweets dude.

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>>867311
What he draws is precisely what interests me (public/normalized sexuality) and I haven't seen any other artists that specialize in it. He's my favorite hentai artist by default.

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>>867333
>the order is bases on the reader survey, but there are other factors as well
>in the order of their popularity, but not necessarily

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>>867367
What about Abubu?

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>>867360
He deleted the ones where he was basically big mad. It doesn't change that he's still cutting ties with Hololive.

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>>867360
He did but what he did delete are tweets that demeans Cover and hololive >>866079

It's obvious that cover was going to sue his ass for saying bad things about them.

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>>867186
>Denies the Crucifixion of Christ
>Denies the Holocaust
>Denies the Nanjing Massacre

Uhhhhh

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>>867367
As I've gotten older I think I've become desensitized to overt oversexualization.

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>>861491
Faggot with the Smallest Balls here!

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>>867425
If they threatened him with suing him for slander then why didn't he delete his last tweet before the apology where he accuses Cover of ghosting him and calls them an unprofessional company?

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>>867415
I know about them and I do like quite a few things they've made, but man... that artstyle...

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>>867427
considering it also denies "child pornography" whatever the fuck that means there's probably mistranslation happening

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>>866610
>only faggots
>her coworkers call her that
No anon, (you) are the shitstirring cocksucker. >>>/trash/

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>>867503
it's just a obvious satire, but it's probably denying the connection between lolicon and child pornography.

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>>867487
Because that tweet is vague as shit. He didn't say that they were ghosting him. He said that they aren't acting as professional as a company.

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>>867256
>the same people calling others schizos also call others antichrists

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>>867427
uhhh...based department?

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>>861185
>What of Alternative now?
Cover will just hire another artist

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>>867425
>>867236
>>867551
>Cover threatened to sue him, that's why he deleted his tweet about never SCing Marine ever again but left the one calling Cover a black company
meds

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>>867186
>bugs are coming out to the defense of a guy who denies the Nanjing Massacre
Someone should post this up on their boards for a kick.

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>>867625
Yes because he didn't call them a black company. He said their response is unacceptable.

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Imagine defending a corporation over a hentai artist. This place really is reddit.

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>>867427
>Denies the Nanjing Massacre
uuuhhhhh chinkbros........

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>>867671
well, maybe you should go to 4chan then.

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>>867671
He is a menhera why should I defend him?

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>>867682
But we are on 4chan, anon.

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>>867711
I thought this was reddit!

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>>867671
/a/ is truly the only place for the original 4chan experience. This /a/ related board like /jp/ and /vt/ are always full of shit people.

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>>867709
qt gachikoi on the wild
hes harmless

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>>861530
Yes

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>>867726
still not a good reason

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>>867725
lol

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>>867186
He denies child porn? I've seen child porn, it's very much real, what an idiot.

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>>867230
So you never grew out of that phase, huh? Sad

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>bat-eating chink bugman

And nothing of value was lost.

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>>867671
Imagine jumping to pick sides with literally no information. What causes this kind of brain damage?

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>>867792
this character which he drew said it. For a community that goes up in arms about lolis, it's pretty dumb at discerning the difference between fantasy and reality

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>>867725
>/a/ is truly the only place for the original 4chan experience.
out of all the takes in this entire thread, this one is the most retarded

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>>867671
Imagine defending a fucking chink

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>>867671
Schizo artista having meltdowns have been alwaus moked, even on /a/

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>>867842
4chan isn't a single community, /vt/ seems like it's mostly normalfags

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>>867898
>/vt/ seems like it's mostly normalfags
literally no one who could qualify as a normalfag visits this site

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>>867671
Ayyy the chink said the R word

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>>861185
>Hololive starts looking for an artist for their new project
>some of the holo talents recommend an artist who has drawn doujins of them before and seems to be a fan
>cover, favouring nepotism more than actual talent hires the artist
>artist works for half a year hoping to build better relationships with the holos he admires
>cover continually prevents him from getting too close to them
>artist tweets dissatisfaction on being unable to sail on the same ship as her
>initial reception to the announcement very positive. There is no turning back now
>ego inflates
>demands special time with her
>rejected

>I'M NEVER WORKING WITH THESE SLUTS AGAIN

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>>867863
>>867778
You fucks don't know about original /a/. Fuck off.

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>>867920
There are people jobs, girlfriends, no mental problems, and stable living conditions on this site. Yes, there are normalfags here.

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>>867925

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>>867920
The fuck are you smoking?

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>>867925
Not what happened.

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>>867898
>>867920
>>867671
It's not possible to take the /b/ and /pol/ out of any board on here, and you're deluding yourselves if you're thinking this will be possible and even /vt/ will approach anything close to reddit.

I yearn for a sane imageboard without leddit's circlejerk-enabling upvotes, and without the /pol/tards and low effort rrat trolls shitting up every thread, but that kind of paradise will never be found.

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>holoniggers literally defending their jewish company
the absolute state of this place, thank god Nijifags are normal

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MK is throwing a sperg fit, Cover is fucking MK, or both. I'm wondering if we will actually find out the reason why or if its rrats all the way down.

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>>867830
it's fun anon
im having fun

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>>867142
Chad

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>>865374
>calimori
>calimari
They should've saved this name for Ina

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>>868039
Stop falseflagging, retard.

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>>867936
Well according to you current /a/ is still the "original 4chan experience" whatever the fuck that means. Explain your logic retard

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>>868137
Shonentards are still at large on the board like old /a/ used to be.

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>>866254
Its more about someone being so asshurt with cover that they would do this kind of shit, it's more about cover and hololive than that edgy, schizo fuck

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From the previous thread:

So heres the recap for late-tuners:
>Mizuryuu Kei gets hired to do the hololive alternative manga
>a few days later he has a public meltdown in twitter, deletes all his Holo stuff from pixiv, fanza, etc and vows to never work with Cover or support the holo girls ever again
>he immediately starts backpedaling hard deletes half the tweets and issues a "I got too emotional, plz don't spam the holos chats, kthx" tweet
>someone (possibly Mizuryuu's liason in China or his translator) starts streaming on Mizuryuu's bili channel about how he has brought cover several gorillion dollars in exposure and now they have betrayed him
>zhangs embrace Mizuryuu as Coco's latest victim and turn him into the new symbol of anti-Cover
This is all that has been confirmed do far, anything else you hear is just rrats

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>>868198
>shitting on slant eyed jews is bad
>>>/r/eddit

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>>868230
>days
Months

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>>868230
t.rrat

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>>868230
that's literally a rrat, quit trying to pass it off as true

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>>868230
How likely is the "Cover asked him to stop distributing his Marine r18 doujin after he already put however many months of work on it" story likely to be true?

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>>868300
it's arguably the most plausible one

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>>868297
>>868299
Exactly what part of it is a rrat?

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>>868300
It's the most plausible but also the most idiotic one - from his perspetive, that is. Of course would they ask him to stop.

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>>868337
everything? The only thing true we know is he tweeted that he didn't like cover's response to his work and he doesn't want to work with them again. The who, what, when, where, how is missing and everything is a dumb narrative

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>>868230
Not what happened.

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>>868337
the two final sentences and the part where it says he was hired and quit in a few days

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>>867111
Pochi-mama is a ero artist and she seems perfectly happy working with Cover.

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Does someone have an archive of just all of his Holo stuff they could toss my way?

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>>868300
Likely, but that's par-of-course when doing comissioned work for a company, just like Kancolle/FGO/etc artists, aren't allowed to draw porn of the character they designed

Retard should have read the contract before signing it instead of throwing a temper tantrum on twitter months after the fact

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>>868475
yes goy read the deceitful contract that binds your soul, good goy

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>>868429
https://exhentai.org/g/1854093/ed07fc2c46/

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>>868401
sure if you say so, zhang

[Anonymous No.]

and? what happened? why?
its china thing right?

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>>868428
Can you imagine Cover asking her to throw away all what she did for the past couple of months or share her income with Cover?

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>>868521
Thanks, bro.
To be fair, I probably should have checked panda first rather than asking straight away considering he's a bigger name.

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>>868521
Eh. Nothing of value was lost.

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>>868504
>What do you mean, I actually need to do the things the contract says to and not do the things it says not to to get paid? This is bullshit, I should be able to do whatever I want and they pay me for it!

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>>868644
20 shekels deposited on your account

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>>862073
Or Fumihiko, Choco loves his stuff, after all

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>>868521
>yurishit
Okay holofags. I'm with you now. Lets cancel this fucker.

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>>868504
t. NEET

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>>868654
You don't understand what a contract is, do you? You enter a binding agreement to do X in exchange for Y. If you don't abide by the terms of the contract, then... You don't get X.
Fucking lolbertarians

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>>868346
Yeah, pretty much every professional smut artist that works for these companies usually has a clause telling them not to draw porn / distribute doujinshi of the work they're hired for. RAITA, ReDrop, Saeki Shun, etc. all come to mind, except maybe Taka Tony, but even then that's just a crippling case of sameface. Then you have the many artists that go into the mainstream as regular mangaka that distanced themselves from their old works. Many artists from Nanashi to Masaki Kajishima to fucking Tezuka pic related all went clean. This has been the norm for several decades at this point, which is why it's baffling why Mizuryu Kei would not expect this kind of request to stop drawing smut from a partnership with the very company he's deriving his paid doujins from.

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>>865791
Ina...

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>>868701
You don't get Y*
Whatever, I fucked up my variables. >>868689 nailed it anyway
>What, I can't just get free shit? This is BULLSHIT!

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>>868595
I mean, no. But she doesn't seem to be the type to try to sell a R18 doujin of a holo while working for Cover so.

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>>868701

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>>868716
Maybe because they asked him too late. He must have been making his shit for fucking months.

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>>868654
$6 for a single shitpost? God damn, where do I sign up. And to think people do it for 50¢

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>>868716
wait you mean he shouldnt get special treatment for being marine's pseudo-friend?

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>>868755
If you don't like basic capitalistic concepts like "contracts are a two way obligation", fuck off to a commie utopia for your gibs, shitstain

[Anonymous No.]

Cover fucked up.
People would have bought official doujins instantly since they can just claim "oh but its the ALTERNATIVE world! its not actually them!" just in case someone bitches about them overlewding the idols

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>>868786
yes goy, money is your god and capitalism is the only good system, if someone criticizes it they're commies

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>>868786
Japs have no concept of legal signed contracts. Most of their terms are verbal and implied. They must have not told him to stop 6 months ago. Telling him now all of sudden fucked him over.

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>>868701
>>868786
You're right if this was written in the contract, but maybe it wasn't. Maybe they didn't sign a contract. Who knows how they're doing things.

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>>868300
Did you not read his tweet? He said that he will be removing his work and will not make hololive content anymore. Meaning he himself will remove it. It was not enforced.

Most plausible scenario is he want to be part of the alt team but was rejected

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>>868834
yes, all of Cover's IP,models rightsor payments work via verbal contracts

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Regardless of the outcome of this, MK is going to get a fuck load of publicity from this and his porn is probably going to sell more, whether you people like it or not.

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>>868701
>>868786
>libertarian
>commie
I think that every political view since the dawn of time believes that contracts should be honored once made.
It's only worthless and untrustworthy faggots that don't.

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>>868833
>t. neet

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>>868833
Go back to /pol/ retard

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>>868757
Right, but there's better ways of handling it professionally rather than blowing your top on Twitter about it. This kind of behavior and fallout is poisonous to future business relations, just ask Inazuma about that. Regardless of whether Cover or MK was in the right or wrong, he really shouldn't have vented like that and rather just reach an accord or excuse himself from collaborating with Cover. Nobody should be defending his behavior here, especially since even he knew it was a bad look when he deleted most of his tweets.
>>868772
Of course not, the dude already had a bunch of red flags on him before this which is why I was one of a few people who didn't like him being brought on as (one of) the official artist for the manga.

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>>868906
Apparently mutual trust is an eBiL jOoZ conspiracy, going by that mouthbreather's posts

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Saw this posted but no idea where they got the specific info from

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>>868772
Or matsuri's pseud-friend? Or friend's pseudo-friend? He was subscribed to a lot of holos.
The biggest sticking point is he didn't read a contract properly and went nuclear too quickly, now Cover is hesitant to want to work with such an individual. Everything else is rrats from antis.

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>>868920
>BACK TO /POL/ YOU CHUD, YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE SLANT EYED JEWS HERE!

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>>868965
>t. edgy* neet

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>>868943
It's some literal nobody on a Discord channel, take it with a grain of salt.

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>>868895
yeah man I totally can't wait for faggot hei and skankaku cuckplex to spin this into some retarded censorship culture war bullshit LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>868965
Whiter than you, muhammed.

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>>868943
from that chink staff of his talking on bilibili. 100% trustworthy

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>>868985
suck your Israeli overlord cock harder, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

I really do want /pol/ to stay in /pol/, talk about cover and MK not about jews liberals and politics.

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>>869017
>t. edgy neet who's mad that his welfare check isn't bigger*

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>>869023
We're talking about MK and Cover, Cover is a jewish company

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>>869037
I can see your nose, rabbi

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>>868928
As >>868716 mentioned, other smut artists have experience with this. Likely he didn't know, went to twitter too early, then a legion of friends and insiders told him that made a huge misunderstanding. Likely he did not get such a contract clause when he did Sekkaku Cheat because that one was smutty as hell despite not being hentai.
Mr. park manager is not a gigantic name in the manga industry but I doubt he doesn't have a network of contacts he could have consulted first. I know for a fact he's friends with Tosh and Hiroyuki.

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>>869065
>t. edgy neet who's mad that his welfare check isn't bigger who blames his own failure of a life on DA JOOZ rather than admit he is a waste of oxygen*

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>>868943
Interesting that none of the Live2D artists ever talked shit about Cover being unable to pay up. It's also interesting that MK conveniently has a billi2 translation channel that was created very recently. How quaint.

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>>869124
No one who actually (have to) use bilibili has the capability to find out how fishy this is.

[Anonymous No.]

Marine addressed this in her stream.

Says she knows about the situation and that the management is in chaos (like always) but that she had heard nothing from management themselves. Making reference to Okayu's birthday stream having technical difficulties as well.

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>>869124
Ame sniffs Sharpies?

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I'll just leave it here.

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>>869164
management in chaos was about okayu's

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>>869197
go back

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>>869197
this has nothing to do with his sperging out on twitter though

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>>868830
I agree but I suspect its one of those weird Japanese formality things rather than actually wanting to ban porn of holos, because then why would you hire a doujin artist to do an official manga? That is catastrophic levels of incompetence.
The fact he tried to apologize later seemed to tell me he got someone to tell him what this actually meant but he already did a lot of damage.

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>>869197
First go back, second, Marine doesn't have any say in whether or not official artists can draw porn of her while on a Cover paycheck. You can argue whether that's good or bad, but there's 0 chance any of the artist contracts allows them to draw porn of the characters they draw officially.

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>>869088
>t. mad

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>>861185
>Mizuryu Kei leaves
>Hololive hires Miura
>HoloAlt becomes a bi-annual
>Duranki becomes annual
>Berserk on hiatus till 2027

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>>869238
True, but relevant to the rrats said about Mr. Park manager in the wake of his meltdown. He's not lyger or mel's manager, just a fan who made a really stupid mistake on twitter.

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>>868663
God no, his faces are ugly as sin

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>>869332
>just a fan
The whole point is that's he wasn't "just a fan" anymore.

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>>869309
My ideas for replacements:
Fumita Yanagida
GEN
Gentsuki
Hisasi
Kiasa
Mengo Yokoyari
Mikuni Mizuki
Pochi
Nagu

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Majority of you fags are acting like MK has never worked with companies before and only does self-published work. His shit shows up in serialized h-magazines, and his work has been animated. He knows what it's like to work with a publisher. This is (almost) all Cover's fault, but MK probably didn't help matters behind the scenes.
Also, all your rrats suck

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>>869423
None of the companies he worked for are outside the adult entertainment industry. Huge gulf of difference in Japan due to their weird fucking structures of formality.

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>>869423
No one who wasn't posting obvious bait was not trying to alleviate blame for Cover, if you managed to read the thread instead of blowing a gasket.

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Did anyone save all the lews Holo art because it sounds like he scrubbed that shit

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>>869416
>Pochi
Why would Pochi draw some dogshit "17" year old when she could draw an Onee-san instead?

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>>869541
you better watch that goddamn mouth anon

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>>869441
Asking money for works that already happened is fucking unheard of and has zero precedent outside of lawsuits. If Cover wanted that money they wouldn't be able to hold a job hostage for it. "That's that and this is this", as they say.
Now, I totally buy that they told him he couldn't continue to make/sell fan works while contracted, R18 or otherwise. That makes sense and is a very clear boundary that most companies on both sides of the Pacific have.

Basically, at this point, either Mizuryu Kei is trying to fuck over Cover and they outplayed him, or Cover didn't make certain terms of his contract transparent and he feels fucked over. So in essence, Cover may have fucked up doing Cover Things, but Mizuryu fucked up even harder by making it a bigger deal than it needed to be AND dragging it out into public. He'll likely never get professional work again from any company.

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>>869309
Miura likes idols though.

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>>869707
Imagine him actually sticking to a monthly schedule on this

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>>869676
His sudden announcement and then release of his R18 marine doujin makes me think the former. At the time he released his doujin it was 4 months into his contract with Cover.

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>>869676
As far as I know Japanes copyright law doesn't actually protect fanartists, companies just choose not to fuck with them because of the monumentally bad PR it would mean due to the existence of events like Comiket. But that doesn't mean an especially stupid company can't try to overstep those bounds.

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>>869676
>hire a fanartist
>he creates a PR disaster because menhera
>be the fanartist
>ruin your future prospects because menhera
This has the potential to be a very sad story, doesn't it? Hopefully this shit somehow ends well.

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>>868035
Well, hello there, Hero. Here to fish?

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We will never get a Pochi Reine R18

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What are the chances we get another book from him starring Marine except that it's ryona/human daruma/snuff etc?

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>>869416
>Fumita Yanagida
Wishful thinking, there's zero overlap with him and Hololive's content.
>GEN
See above.
>Gentsuki
Doesn't really do action, too much of a slow burner.
>Hisasi
Too much of an actual idolfag for that.
>Kiasa
This is the only choice on this list that feels valid.
>Mengo Yokoyari
Preoccupied with her current ongoing work. Style doesn't really mesh with Hololive's much.
>Mikuni Mizuki
Done work with Yostar several times, I highly doubt they'd risk their current relationship to go work with Cover.
>Pochi
Not a bad choice, but I feel like she's more than happy just doing what she's doing right now.
>Nagu
Cheeky, aren't you?

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>>869857
Yagoo snuff, he probably likes Marine very much.

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>>869676
Apparently he has been working for them for months and not just days, while in contract they own every art of work he does for them. He probably did some paid hololive work outside the contract like fanbox or some shit? I dont know what they use, they would own that work as well under contract and apparently asked for a cut of those profits too. Its all speculation from other artists that did professional work and had situations like this though. Doubt we'll know the truth until either of them say what really happened.
Also they just removed his art from the website today

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>>869794
The main beef with the "you have to pay royalties to us for your fan works if you want this job" rrat is that I can't think of a single first-world country where that's even remotely legal or even logical to pursue that way over just suing the guy for the money. It doesn't make a lick of sense, even in the context of Cover's usual stupidity. They'd just refuse to hire him.
Following that logic, either he agreed to something he had no intentions of following through on, or Cover is the dumbest company in the world. As dumb as Cover can be, I doubt they're THAT dumb.

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>>869794
>But that doesn't mean an especially stupid company can't try to overstep those bounds.
Kodansha already tried that ages ago and it ended up with Akamatsu axing Negima and torching the franchise, he eventually came back, tho

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>>869197
Take it and fuck off

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>>869857
0. As far as we know he has no issue with Marine, and even then Mizuryu doesn't typically draw snuff or guro outside of that one kancolle doujin years ago, and the time one of his gigasluts rode a dead guy's dick.

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>>869423
The adult entertainment industry and the regular entertainment industry are a world apart, retard.

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>>869873
>As dumb as Cover can be, I doubt they're THAT dumb.
Anon, I keep the myself every single day

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>>869873
Oh that's fair, I'm not really hung up on the exact details but I could see cover trying to fuck him up in a similar fashion.

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>another person coming forward to talk about how scummy cover is and the business tactics they use
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHH IT'S CHINESE CCP SHILLS XI TOLD HIM TO LIE ABOUT COVER!!!!
this is why they got kicked off bilibili. they got a long history of it.

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>>869873
The only way I could see that being true is if either cover is incredibly fucking dumb, like you said, or Mizuryu is incredibly fucking dumb and there was some fanwork clause about his productions while working for Cover and he just didn't read his contract

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>>869794
Without knowing anything, it could be that Cover may have overstepped or mishandled things. Its not the first time they fucked up this badly when working with third-parties.

However I'm more willing to accept the menhera rrat since I know personally that japan is full of weird formality stuff that more experienced artists would understand better, and its been done before - Tosh and other hentai artists managed to work on both their mainstream and lewd works. I see this as two inexperienced parties (cover and Mr. park manager) fucking up what should have been a fairly practiced collaboration.

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>>869920
The mix of pure incompetency and the target audience being the spurgiest sort of people short of those calling themselves deerkin will never fail to be amusing.

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>>869896
Not in Japan, retard.
Adult entertainment and regular entertainment are incredibly intertwined, especially in anime/manga. Pretty much every well known artist has done porn at some point, and most of them started with porn and transitioned to SFW shit when a producer saw their loli rape doujins in the R18 section of some doujin shop. Look at the shit the Made in Abyss author forces into his supposedly SFW works just to satiate his piss and guro fetishes and nobody really cares or dares to call him a degenerate except in the puritanical west.

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>>869873
>or Cover is the dumbest company in the world. As dumb as Cover can be, I doubt they're THAT dumb.
Did you forget that just a few weeks ago they made a shitton of antis mods in cocos chat by accident instead of banning them?

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>>869955
Don't, you have a Coco or a HoloCN thread to shit zhang? Just cut the chase already and start shillin about bilibili stocks already

>inb4 reddit schizo

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>>869857
Marine would probably love that but chances are low because it's not his fetish. Maybe if it was Harasaki or Asanagi or some other well-known guro/ryona artist that likes to troll people.

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>>869955
>knows actually nothing other than Kei throwing a temper tantrum about hololive
>Cover is evil, guys. Believe me I know everything about them, my dad is Yagoo!

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>>869920
As another anon pointed out, Japan has virtually no protections for fanartists other than social/PR constructs making it potentially suicidal to do so. If they wanted the money, they could litigate for it and they'd get it no problem, and they could even hire him as "consolation" for the lawsuit and give him the money back (and then some) as earned wages in an official capacity. Hell, you could even frame it as "fanartist paid their due but made amends with the company they wronged, now they're even more successful" or something, although I don't know Mizuryu Kei's position in doujin circles well enough to know how that'd go over. Save face AND get publicity for both parties.

>>869995
That's that and this is this, though. Management having a Towa Tech Moment is a bit different from hiring being incompetent.
Then again, we don't know the full details and this happened off business hours. Maybe it IS managerial incompetence that caused MK to flip his shit.

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>>869955
>defending a man who can't even keep up a professional front on Twitter regarding his job instead of raging to the whole world, then having to delete most of those tweets after getting contacted by insiders and fellow artists who told him to shut up before he completely implodes his career
>Satania poster
Fuck off lel

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>>870002
>Don't, you have a Coco .. thread to shit zhang?
you wish, faggot. i wouldn't post in your crappy threads if you begged me. if you cancer stopped raiding cn threads i wouldn't even notice you losers exist.

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>>869980
>>869423
>comparing publishing your *own* original works under a label with a comission contract involving a 3rd party's IP
Retardchama

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>>869980
Reading comprehension, retard. Artists that did NSFW generally don't do NSFW works of their SFW works. Citing examples like Made in Abyss doesn't really count since it's not actual pornography either, retard.

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>>870010
doujin artist that publishes on their own and makes pocket change versus some company full of rrats that makes millions hmmm

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>>870043
We got to give more credit to cover because he tried to backpedal HARD mere hours afterwards.

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>>870008
I know Marine LARPs about being masochistic, but is she actually into hard M stuff?

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>>870043
>cover tries to scam him
>scummy retard hololive fans threaten him otherwise with violence and or a ruined life
>SEE? WE'RE GOOD BOI WHO DINDU NUFFIN
thanks for proving it's a good thing bilibili laid the smack down that black company cover and removing that tumor was a positive thing.

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>wahh cover is a black company
>FBK still hasn't quit yet
Of course, I think that spiel about her playing canary was bullshit all along, but if you want to take it at face value, nothing happening yet should be proof that this is a steaming load of nothing.

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>>870072
it wasn't even an hour lol

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>>870067
>>869980
Also, this is Japan. A country that supposedly bans all graphic depictions of genitalia but you can get around it with a mosaic or a really tiny black bar. Likely the contract was written in word but spirit could be loosely interpreted.
I'm very inclined to think MK wasn't versed in the subtleties and Cover just copied a contract given to other mangakas without explaining the details to him.

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>>870010
>>870043
Ignore him, he's a literal zhang who keeps taking any chance to throw dirt at Cover and le evil dragon woman
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/image/F76aXWxQEE65_WZC7IvPJQ/

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>>870122
thanks for your input zhang

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>>870122
>>870133
holy meds

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>>864885
He is unironically at least a little retarded. He pronounces foreign words wrong repeatedly, corrects himself, then does it again for the same words in subsequent videos.

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>>870133
Even taking it with a grain of salt, Friend has really cemented her position as the canary.
Of course, she's still Friend. A reminder to chinks that she literally didn't bat an eye to losing her billi channel and half of her SC revenue.

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>>870107
She's mentioned being a big fan of Quzilax before. Look up the kinda loli stuff he does. She also follows that punching bag vtuber iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870157
Like him sucking Bilibilis dick wasn’t an obvious enough indicator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870157
fucking kek

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>>870157
>gotta mention your reddit dragon constantly
you're so desperate schizo. don't you become a moderator for reddit dragon and cleanup all the china men living rent free in your head? i don't care about your reddit dragon. it's you subhumans who always mention her and cry in cn threads.

you're just really angry cause you get btfo and cry like a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

Unrelated, but why would you even defend bilibili What about the shitfest BB users threw about Mushoku because Paul had two wives? TWO. WIVES.

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>>870230
>reddit dragon
Say her name, xiao zhang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870252
china invented the phrase 3 wives and 4 concubine. maybe try taking your schizo pills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870252
No one outside bugland defends bili because no one outside of that shithole uses it, that's one of the easiest ways to spot a zhang

[Anonymous No.]

If you seen ONE of his doujins than you've seen them all. Same shit every time. Super slutty girl doing retard face, has zero shame about fucking bascially anything that moves.

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>>870301
Tell that to the chink companies who started cutting ties with them because they streamed MT.

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>>870276
>thread about cover
>HEY WHY DON'T YOU GO INTO A REDDIT DRAGON THREAD???
>get told fuck off i don't go into reddit dragon threads
>OMG HE'S SO OBSESSED WITH REDDIT DRAGON!! LOOK AT THESE POSTS IN CN THREADS NOT MENTIONING REDDIT DRAGON
>get told he's a schizo
>HEY REDDIT DRAGON SAY HER NAME!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>hey pochi
>That retard of kei throwed a tantrum and quit
>Wanna draw a manga for us?
Probably asked and she declined because she has her hands too full for the job btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>870359
Those are a lot of words, Zhang, but none of them are her name. Why is that, I wonder?

[Anonymous No.]

>>870230
how about you stop sucking CCP dick and kill you self faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>869880
Negima was axxed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>870388
Isn't she like Ina and very busy with other stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>870347
>*companies make a business decision for whatever reason*
>tell that to my schizo fantasy involving shippers and china bad!!!

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>>870252
Unrelated, but Mushoku is probably the last anime worth dying on a hill for over its tastelessness. It's full of complete degeneracy and every male character is scum even compared to other harem anime. I understand that anyone is entitled to like whatever they like, and I enjoy it personally, but it's really unsurprising that the majority of society doesn't wanna see an anime where a guy who died after getting caught jacking off to child porn reincarnates into a rapist toddler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870407
>new IP

[Anonymous No.]

>>870157
What a cocksucker. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Word of advice, try more outlandish rrats instead of spouting one that everyone has gotten sick of since the permissions holocaust. You might be able to derail a thread properly.

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>>870335
Honestly I used to love his stuff ages ago back whe he was doing the mind cobtrol school series and his first Mizuryuu Land stuff, but yeah after a while his stuff gets really repetitive, it always ends with the girl becoming an ahegao gyaru turboslut wearing a fishnet bodystocking

[Anonymous No.]

>lesbian reddit dragon
this one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>870335
This. Cover probably just fired him because he can't write a story longer than one chapter

[Anonymous No.]

>>870252
I'm not sure if you have the story wrong, but BB users were the ones defending MT. The problem was that MT was pretty high profile, and it was unfortunate enough to eventually catch mainstream attention which shit on it really hard. BB had to take it down because it was getting tons of complaints and was being pressured by their partner brands.

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>>870418
Can you Zhangs get the fuck off the western internet. Nobody else throws a fucking hissy fit anytime anyone mutters the name of their country under their breath. Seriously go fuck off and die. Literally every thread on this board is infested with you bugs.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are Nguyens so obsessed with Zhangs? In any kind of thread. They can't even see how embarassing it is to share a community with them

Going back to Kei, I kinda wanted more Shion works

[Anonymous No.]

>>870359
>>870059
>keeps posting rat pictures without knowing what it actually means because he got called a rrat laat thread
How cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>870421
My beef with the situation is that stuff like Redo of Healer gets a free pass. I mean, if you're gonna complain about fictional immorality, I think Healer is the worst of the two (even if it feels more like a comedy).

[Anonymous No.]

>>870454
no they mean this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>870414
The original one yeah, it came back a few years later as UQ Holder tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>870495
I mean, thats the thing. Redo of Healer comes off as a comedy. Everything feels so unbelievable and contrived to make you horny. Mushoku actually seems like a "real" anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>870335
The childcare one at the park is super based.
The park is my fetish buffet despite the sameface, and he's done justice to my oshi. I feel sad at this development but its typical of Cover's fuckups. Less malevolence and more incompetence on both parties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870486
you redditors are so fresh off the boat you didn't even know what ogey and rrat was a couple weeks ago. i really enjoyed when your fellow reddit dragon schizo fan told me i call him a rrat cause rrat is related to chinese culture [insert schizo shit].

[Anonymous No.]

>>870484
You're implying only slant eyes use this korean ricepaper-basketweaving-forum.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine living in a country where you're not allowed to appreciate the figure of this catwoman

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: spergs on both sides of the politico-autistic spectrum wax poetic about how they're in the moral right when everyone else just wants to know more about this Cover/Mizuryu fiasco

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is going from zero to OGEY fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870594
we already know as much as we can so it's really just the former now

[Anonymous No.]

there were 1150 replies on the last thread about this, do you really need to read more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>868475
>Kancolle/FGO/etc artists, aren't allowed to draw porn of the character they designed
Reminds me of Jiji deleting his KC stuff when he got hired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870495
I think the difference is Redo of Healer is basically a hentai, and anyone who read the basic plot summary before it aired had a good idea that it'd just be a rehash of Shield Hero with a equally angsty protagonist and actual porn. It's like when Ishuzoku Reviewers came out, everyone knew what to expect except a few women on Twitter who were outraged over it.

Mushoku is actually a high budget anime with good animation and music and by all accounts could've had the potential to be an instant classic if the source material weren't so sleazy. Half the criticism is people who went into it thinking it was a typical iyashikei isekai like Ascendance of a Bookworm where a hikki NEET gets a second chance at a good life by reincarnating as a child. It had all the recipe for that kinda series, so normies were pretty offended when they went into it and one of the first scenes is the protagonist getting kicked out of his house for jacking it to cp followed by groping his own mom's tits as a baby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870658
>t's like when Ishuzoku Reviewers came out, everyone knew what to expect except a few women on Twitter who were outraged over it.
Remember that Funimation didn't know either. Always a good laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870500
Sex....

[Anonymous No.]

>>870658
Huh. Sounds plausible. Fuck normalfags, tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870658
Too bad the director for mushoku fucked off after episode 3 and you can clearly see the dip in quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870733
>"wait, what do you mean it's a show about a bunch of guys reviewing brothels and hookers written by a hentai artist?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>870594
We already know all there is to know, we are just funposting now

[Anonymous No.]

Mizuryu denied the Holocaust and the Nanking Massacre, even in fiction, so it would be impossible for Cover to do business with him anyway.
Cover is a genius at making money at least, but please, pick the right people to work with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870553
didn't read

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't it amazing how twatter artists will fly off the handle randomly and people will act like it's totally reasonable thing to do and immediately jump in their defense as if they were a child being helpless beaten to a pulp by championship boxers

[Anonymous No.]

>>870904
i like how fast you guys go from wishing for/denying nanking to saying mizuryu is a bad guy for denying it. i would bet money one of you guys posted how based he was for denying it somewhere on /vt/ prior to this stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>871101
Corporations are evil, and artists are all innocent, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>871147
>Corporations are evil
true

[Anonymous No.]

>>871101
I swear this board must have one of the lowest age averages in the entire site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>867047

what does it say

[Anonymous No.]

>>871227
”please let me suck your fat cow tits, you subhuman menhera bitch. love you teehee"

[Anonymous No.]

>>871101
You must be really new to the internet if you think artists are hailed as heroes by the corporations they work for.
Since you are clearly clueless, go read up on what happened with Girls Frontline and Punishing Gray Raven. 2 different games, 2 completely different teams ruining their own game because they shat on their artists and treated them like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>871373
>Girls' Frontline (simplified Chinese: 少女前线; traditional Chinese: 少女前線; pinyin: Shàonǚ Qiánxiàn) is a mobile strategy role-playing game for Android and iOS developed by China-based studio MICA Team

>Punishing: Gray Raven (“战双帕弥什”, P:GR) is an online, free-to-play 3D action role-playing mobile game developed and published by Kuro Game (库洛游戏) (广州库洛游戏, KuroGames inc., Guangzhou)

OH NONONONONONO

[Anonymous No.]

>>870904
I'm more surprised how much the zhangs support him despite denying the nanking massacre.

[Anonymous No.]

>>871101
>>871373
Also, if you want on-board examples of it, since it's /vt/, go looke up the shitshow that happened at the Gamebu. I'm still mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>871510
They probably don't know anything about him besides COVER MAN BAD, it'll be pretty hilarious when someone tells them

[Anonymous No.]

>>871373
I've read several posts about GFL and look like some of the artists aren't any better than the company itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>870230
Zhangchama you have to try better to not stand out so much

[Anonymous No.]

Just checked out of curiosity.
He announced the Marine doujin at the start of December and then released it at the end of December.
Then in January made 2 more hentai pics.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the "cover = bad" thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>871610
MICA certainly has a talent for finding artists that are absolutely fucking insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>871996
Right now it's the schizo free-for-all thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>870202

Bullshit lol. She's a larper

[Anonymous No.]

>>871996

It's true. Fake ass shit like WWE

[Anonymous No.]

That honestly sucks for him, but I would much rather Cover have a hentai artist with cuter artwork do the manga instead, like Yukimi or Igumox.

Or maybe Cover should hire Shiro Usazaki, who can't find a good writer to go along with her good art.

[Anonymous No.]

Wasn't the manga announced this weekend? Why would Cover suddenly cancel everything and fire him right after the announcement?

[Anonymous No.]

>>870157
Hilarious stuff, good of you to share anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>872832
>I would much rather Cover have a hentai artist with cuter artwork
Very much this. This fiasco might end up being a blessing in disguise.

[Anonymous No.]

I personally believe he really wanted to get his hands on the ship's wheel and thrash that rudder around and is angry it won't happen.

Lots of random holos still follow him, but Marine doesn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>868039
>nijews are normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>868346
Probably refused thinking there was room for negotiation

>Tweet about cutting ties with Hololive
He got Cease & Desist in mail, this was not a negotiation

[Anonymous No.]

>>869309
>Berserk next chapter wont be released until 2024 due to this

[Anonymous No.]

>>870157
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

I'm trying to think of a way that this situation makes Mizuryu looks favorable and not a menhra and I'm at a loss.

>>873420
One of his deleted tweet did say that he was unable to get on the ship supposedly...

[Anonymous No.]

>>873716
>I'm trying to think of a way that this situation makes Mizuryu looks favorable and not a menhra and I'm at a loss.
Same. Every scrap of info we have paints Mizuryu negatively. Even the rrats where Cover fucked him over make him look worse.

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>>869004
Video is out
>people are mad I make videos
>here are 3 tweets
>here are two comments some nips did where they say we don't have enough details so either one could be in the wrong
>yeah seems about right
Wew, you fags always make a big deal over ye ol' tabloid style news that youtube forces people to become.

[Anonymous No.]

>>873895
Wow, it's fucking nothing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>866282
Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>866254
This is more about starting sht with cover, again.>>866455

[Anonymous No.]

>>866455
Oh wait
This is more about stirring cover's shit than the artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>865306
>rarely do you get away with it
fucking pochi got away with it

[Anonymous No.]

>had a working contract agreed upon by both parties to make the manga
>found out about HoloAlt, tried to squeeze out more money despite the contract
>was told "no"
>meltdown on twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>867876
>Imagine defending a company run by chinks

[Anonymous No.]

>>868039
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Class A retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
I will believe this

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Yeah looks like this one's his fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Fucking kek if this is true.

Inagine burning all bridges and getting yourself in a bunch of blacklists over a few extra sheckels

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
I fucking knew it.
>Either he tried to screw over Cover and they outplayed him, or Cover wasn't transparent about something in his contract and he feels screwed over as a result.
Also how the fuck was he unaware of the size of the market? They would've contracted him shortly before or during Gen 5 premieres at the earliest. He would've known.
Also, he'd better check the contents of that contract, because he may be obligated to deliver on the product anyway. Cover may not publish it, but he could be forced to deliver if he doesn't want to buy out of the contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>869
>Holoalt is never gonna be released because Miura is still playing Idolmaster

[Anonymous No.]

>>869920
Anon, have you ever heard of Management fuckup when Coco gave them a list of zhangs to be blocked only for them to do the fucking opposite and make them mods of her channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Oh nonononono, Mizuryuubros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
So he wants royalties on things other than the manga he was contracted to work on? How big is his nose IRL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>870904
Well, there goes my opinon of him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
It's just another case of "I deserve more". Must've been sleeping with Jacob in bed too.
Fucking hell, what is it that nu-artists didn't learn to not kill the messenger. They're so fickle and burn bridges that easily.
They're ruining the gig market as if its not bad enough, now every company will ask a psych test before giving out contracts.

Also the way chink publisher would do nowadays, is offering a middleman company contracts and let them source the artist indirectly. They know artists are prone to these outbursts.

[Anonymous No.]

>holo-related work on pivix/dlsite will be removed
Holy shit do any of you autists have a folder of this shit saved anywhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Top fucking kelk, what a greedy retard, hope getting himself blacklisted and throwing away any prospects for any future corporate commissions was worth it

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Ayy

[Anonymous No.]

Always remember, before signing ANYTHING:
>Read up on the company you're signing paperwork with.
>Read up on the reason you're signing paperwork.
>Read the paperwork.
>Make them sign something for you, too.
>Don't leave until you have copies.
>Make more copies ASAP and put them in various places where they will be accessible.
>Don't be a retard and try to weasel your way out of a contract just because you decided to play take-backs later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874917
Somebody in this thread posted one. There's probably a few others up by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
So basically he gambled, lost, and had a meltdown that basically made things worse for him. if this is all true which sounds likely at this point I doubt we'll ever find out the truth from cover or mizuryu

[Anonymous No.]

>>875044
Cover will probably just release a statement citing breach if contract as usual, if they make a statement at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
>Hololive aint shit
>one MV later
>OH SHIT Hololive is a big deal. Time to jack up my prices.

Artists are so fucking bad at business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
You know what they say about playing stupid games, congrats to the latest winner

[Anonymous No.]

>>875044
He didn't even gamble. He was getting paid. Probably not poorly, either. He just thought he deserved more as the "first" HoloALT project, which is completely bullshit.
If his pay for the manga was that low, he should've done more research on the company and Hololive. Cover didn't even give him the boot for asking for more money, they just told him he wasn't getting more than was already agreed upon. He's the one that threw a temper tantrum on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874917
check the booru

[Anonymous No.]

>>875167
oh geez that's even worse then

[Anonymous No.]

>>874816
Its better to work with a quality obscure artist and make him famous than work with an already 'famous' artists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
so that's why the chinkshill mods on r/vyt don't wanna talk about what was said on that stream, kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>869871
>twitter comics
Like Merryweathery?

[Anonymous No.]

>>875345
no, because the comics would have to be original and ongoing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>875390
I like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Is there any sort of source for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>875390
touche
imagine if they sign Ghostys for this project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>875565
https://twitter.com/zvNWvmLaOdfnP6G/status/1363904446585995264

[Anonymous No.]

>>875676
Random twitter account...

[Anonymous No.]

>>875345
probably oneshot mangas is my bet that will be loosely interconected.
Nice to expand if one is a hit and
>>874484
i want to think the zhangs are beign fucking liers becasue the he is reatarded as fuck if he never realized how big hololive was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>861185
>What of Alternative now?
Oh no, we lost a single hentai artist.
If we only we had 100 more that can replace him...

[Anonymous No.]

>>875707
Don't shoot the messenger

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Oh shit, did Cover's MAX LUK kick in again and a schizo jew was outed before any important work was started and not after?

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Wow. This is who NGA is rallying behind now?

[Anonymous No.]

so cover lowballed him for his work and he put them on blast on twitter. Good to know cover is at fault yet again

[Anonymous No.]

>>875710
>he is reatarded as fuck if he never realized how big hololive was
Anon, remember that APEX player that got (relatively) lots of subs just because he gave a purple armor to Aqua and when told she was a vtuber, his first thought was Nijisanji. Most elevenese still think hololive is just a child playing in giant's land.

[Anonymous No.]

>>875799

[Anonymous No.]

>>875344
is wors than that, is a Chink Leaf mod.

[Anonymous No.]

>>875799
>Work on single piece of a project
>Be so retarded that you don't realize it's popular franchise
>Demand 17% of all profits from franchise, not mange, franchise
>After being told no leave the project and tell them to suck a dick
Yeah, Cover fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>875820
It's not an APEX streamer's job to know every player he's interacting with, and he still knew her by name, even if he got her company wrong (and remember, Nijisanji was more dominant in JP at one point).
If you are approached or apply to do paid work for a company, you should come to the table knowing how much you're about to make that company. Even cursory research would've shown how big Hololive was in and out of Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>875799
>get hired for a webmanga
>sign the contract
>realize that the manga is part of a larger multimedia project
>ask for a higher cut and/or royalties from all other parts of the project
>"lol, no"
>throe a shitfit on twitter
Yeah, totally Cover's fault

[Anonymous No.]

Also I guess this throws the rrat about it being about the winter doujin out the window if he wasn't outright prohibited from making them.

[Anonymous No.]

I heard cover is replacing him with Healthyman

[Anonymous No.]

>>875991
Not even, if this translation is accurate, he knew going in that it was a piece of a multimedia project, he just didn't think Hololive was as big as it was. Kinda fucking dumb considering he's a doujin artist doing work of a Holo. Surely he got a lot of Twitter traction on that Sion/Marine art he did.
Either this guy is a complete idiot that played himself, or this is an attempt for him to save face from an even bigger fuck-up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>875942
Her handle was her name, and the guy didn't even know she was a vtuber until they pointed it out, and after that, he thought it was niji until they said it was from holo.
Though admittedly, he wasn't much into vtubers before that incident. He now RTs Aqua every now and then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>876007
does it really? This newest rrat is just as bad as the other ones and is done by a dead account

[Anonymous No.]

>In alearns how to dodge
>Forgets how to jump

[Anonymous No.]

>>876071
Streamers are also REALLY fucking common in APEX. I'm not even high-ranked and I'll run into 3-5 a night if I'm playing with randos. After a while you just start filtering them out, so he probably didn't even pay attention initially.

[Anonymous No.]

>>876007
Probably not, but it's a stain in his record. He was asked to refrain, but corporative speech, moreso in japanese, asks you to get the mesaage without having to outright state something. Japanese companies more often than not won't say "No", just that the request is "difficult"

[Anonymous No.]

>>875710
>he is reatarded as fuck if he never realized how big hololive was.
a lot of Japanese are stuck in 2019 and think Niji is the only big vtuber agency

[Anonymous No.]

>>876111
checked, but wrong thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>876122
True and judging by his actions he doesn't exactly strike me as the type to understand that sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>876053
imagine the shionXgura

[Anonymous No.]

>>876187
>Go nuclear on twitter
Not the sharpest tool in the shed

[Anonymous No.]

>>876057
>he just didn't think Hololive was as big as it was
not surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>876111
Kek, I still remember how she forgot she could double jump during a boss fight

[Anonymous No.]

>>876057
>save face from an even bigger fuck-up
What kind of fuck-up would be worth outing yourself as a greedy retard who can't take a hint as evidenced by >>874484 to hide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>875991
yes that's literally what was said. The original rrat of cover trying to fleece this artist was right

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
>that level of retardation
I was honestly ready to blame Cover. I know rrats were flying around, but I don't put it past Cover to do some dumb shit.
This retard fucked up hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>876339
He fucked Marine and got her pregnant, this isbjuast a smoke screen to give a plausible reason for him to get distanced from Hololive. Expect an announcement about Marine having tontake a break for "health reasons" in a few days

[Anonymous No.]

>>876339
you're aware that the image is also a narrative right

[Anonymous No.]

>>876466
As is everything here, but if you didn't believe at least one of those, you would just be lurking until the actual truth came out instead of posting, wouldn't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>876466
Checked a few places. This should be pretty accurate on what was said on-stream save for the part where it was framed in a way that makes Kei look like a small artist being bullied by a large company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>876352
This implies Cover is somehow in the wrong, which doesn't appear to be the case. You don't try to force contract changes 6 months later (and only after the company's finally made their official announcements) unless you're seriously lacking braincells. Maybe Cover lowballed him and he was getting ripped off, but if that's the case, the proper thing to do is to fulfill your end and then put them on blast after you've actually fulfilled your legal and professional obligations.

[Anonymous No.]

i still can't believe mizuryu didn't realize hololive is a large market seeing hololive doujin sales always topped the charts on melonbooks

[Anonymous No.]

>>876809
if he was smart about it he would have suck it up, do a fucking good job, and then demand a small fortune to continue it further

[Anonymous No.]

>>876820
>seeing hololive doujin sales always topped the charts on melonbooks
I think Mizuryu is being an unresearched idiot about it, but I had the impression that digital and physical doujin sales were almost entirely FGO, 2hu, or gacha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>876820
probably arrogance, thinking he was the sole reason for its success

[Anonymous No.]

>>876820
We don't know the exact amounts, could be he was getting paid well but wanted more because his was the first work in the "franchise"

[Anonymous No.]

>>870133
That's only in regard to protecting holo members.
Cover being incompetent and 3rd parties are not included.

[Anonymous No.]

>>876945
fwiw nothing happened following Marine's $100k thing or Pekora's cancelled thing that made her want to refund SCs, either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>869852
only if the artist is willing to get their fingers broken once her politically connected family finds out some one is sullying their precious pure daughter

[Anonymous No.]

rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>877221
translate it weebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>877221
the fuck does it say

[Anonymous No.]

>>877221
Link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>877221
ching chong rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>877242

He previous deny the existence of Nanjing Massacre in his Doujin. He then try to rephrase it and accept it after some Chinese raise question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>877221
[EN] pee pee poo poo fuck hololive lmao, china numba wan

[Anonymous No.]

>>877242
>>877245
damage control about >>867186, saying that he's not actually denying nanking, if I understood correctly
>>877314
https://live.bilibili.com/22386431
he's still live although about to end soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>877447
is ti actaully him or his transalto group

[Anonymous No.]

>>877497
watch the stream retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>877618
cing cong is not a nice language ti hear

[Anonymous No.]

>>877697
>MZRK doesn't know bugspeak
>cing cong is not a nice language ti hear
Retardchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>866067
YouTube blocking doesn't work like that retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>861185
Mizuryu Kei is based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.]

>>877447
>trying to backpedal everything now
he knows he's fucked isn't he

[Anonymous No.]

>>877787
Item one, Urban Legends are self-evidently not true, else there would be a German lady in strange garb living in gaps transporting trains and lonely young men into a shadow realm to be feasted upon.
Item two, マイナスイオン (Minus Ion) is a Korean-tier myths to stop the selling of Air Conditioners, humidifiers, wrist watches, and public baths, all good markings of civilisation and the well functioning of a human being
Item three, Pseudo-Science, is self-evident as anything truthy would not be classified as Pseudo-Science, though of course conventional Science too is full of self-defying hypocritical lies such as "race is only skin-deep" and "God does not exist"
Item four, Dowsing, does not work unless you're a rat girl or Doraemon
Item five, Crucifixion of Christ is a self-evident spook, a punishment from God to decadent hedonistic Romans and anyone aping their fallen barbarism
Item six, Comfort Women is of course true, as there is no need for an occupying Power to forcefully recruit women to act as prostitutes, for nearly all women would rather sell their own body in hard and lean times without their husbands, fathers, and brothers to safeguard them.
Item seven, Child Pornography, is self evident because there is no such thing as distinction between normal pornography and those depicting a "child". See Australia's Australian Classification Board decision in 2010-01-05 on "Small Breast Ban for Pseudo-Pedophilia"
Item eight, Holocaust, self-evident
Item nine, Nanking Massacre, self-evident
Item ten, Flat Earth, self-evident unless your Pekora
May God grant us wisdom in our temporary life in this marred world, Amen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>878030
based and redpilled mizuryu kei BTFOing jews

[Anonymous No.]

>>877447
all of my kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>861185
>hololive alternative
so they really want to be the next touhou huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>868833
>if someone criticizes it they're commies
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe they can hire Asanagi to draw it now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
So basically he’s a retard who should’ve done more research when he negotiated the contract. Ended up fucking over his oshi for a few dollars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>874484
Any proof this is actually true?

[Anonymous No.]

>>869017
tfw no Israeli bf

[Anonymous No.]

>>868920
>>868985
this is what holoEN did to the vtuber community
those SJW whores kiara and mori infected vtubers with tranny and gay jewish propaganda

[Anonymous No.]

>>878688
The show's over, dude. Try again next scandal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>875119
there's a reason why they're artists

[Anonymous No.]

>>868028
How do you know?

[Anonymous No.]

He deleted all the posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>879010
As if we didn't need even more proof he fucked up, good lord.

Can't believe I wasted my time worrying over this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>879010
Holy shit you weren't kidding. He wiped out all his twitter stuff so his last tweet was a day ago.
I think he just realized how fucking stupid he is burning all his bridges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>879010
Place your bets, people. Time for the rrat race:
>Cover goons told him to take it all down or they'd sue.
>Cover saw the thing on BilliBilli and decided they'd rather kneel than go through the trouble.
>He took it all down himself because he realized (read: was told) it made him look unemployable.
>He's charging up for his ultimate shitpost and needs the energy from his previous posts to fuel it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>879010
OH NONONO