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Nijisanji's "top" members are actually as popular as Holo's middle-bottom tier, and most of them only get like 1k subs per week or some shit. How can anyone look at this and still think 'they're doing fine' is beyond me.

>> No.854529

something something number nigga

>> No.854534

>>854502
gee, i don't know different fruit maybe.

>> No.854563

>>854502
Are they at risk of bankruptcy? No? Then they're doing fine retard.

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>>854502
Hey check this out. This is Aloe's current sub count. Below her is chigusa, the best performing of the five nijis who debuted above her. Not only does she have more subs than them, her DEAD CHANNEL is gaining subs FASTER than three out of five of them.

>> No.854642

>>854502
rent free

>> No.854668

>>854502
Nijisanji is losing to Hololive, but it doesn't mean it's doing badly.
There's no guarantee Hololive will be able to keep its leadership with many new competitors appearing and Cover's incompetence.

>> No.854689

>>854502
Nijisanji does pretty well for being purely Japan-only generally. They also have smaller sub counts but their top ones have pretty damn loyal viewers in comparison to lots of deadsubs for top Holos.

A lot of the top Holos are between 10-20% foreigner subs or more, who knows. This isn't even taking into account the Holo ENs proving that having a language userbase 10x the size of Japan's + successful tubers will naturally make JOP vtubers look weak.

>> No.854702

>>854668
They're carried too hard by their talents, only way they go south is if they lose them.

>> No.854712

Superchats matter. Highest from Nijisanji belongs to Kuzuha I think. Hasn't broken 1 million like some of the top hololive girls but not chump change either. The problem is the mass volume of members that it's hard to dedicate time to them all so you only pick a select few and stick with those. Quantity over quality like it's a netflix model. Maybe that new EN branch will boost visibility for the others like it did for hololive but time will tell. Not really in trouble at the moment.

>> No.854751

>>854712
It's not really that matter for Niji actually, since some of the CHOSE not doing superchat.

>> No.854796

i dont think hololive numbers are the standard in the vtuber business.

>> No.854797

this is like saying that every restaurant that isn't McDonalds is about to go away because they aren't as big as McDonalds

>> No.854910

>>854502
they don't rely on the western market. I don't want holomongoloid EOPs to start swarming all over nijisanji.

>> No.854995

If you want my take on it it's because there's a difference on how japanese and western audiences view subscribing. The westerner is more likely to subscribe even if they don't plan on actually watching the content later.
A better measure would be the actual view count.

>> No.855024

UUUUOOOOOOIIHHHH NUMBERS
GIVE ME NUMBERS AAAAAAA

>> No.855053

>>854702
A large enough scandal or just Hololive continuing to stagnate would do enough to damage them. Most of their talents do the same goddamn content every single day and their viewership relies more on whether Pekora or Marine are streaming to take all the viewers. Nijisanji isn't exactly speeding up their growth but any day now some new agency might pop up and explode in popularity overnight.

>> No.855176

>>854995
>view count.
I think the nijis are arranged by viewers bands and the first number is a count. 25k for kuzuha sounds like akutan numbers. Or if pekora had a bad day.

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>>855176
No, that's how many subscribed in a week.
Here's Kuzuha's viewcount lately.

>> No.855252

>>855053
What are you even saying? Fubuki has 27k viewers right now. Holo isn't just Pekora and Marine carrying everyone but Niji is literally Kuzuha and some adds that most people know they're Nijisanji members but don't really care enough to watch their streams.
>>854995
Hololive is destroying Nijisanji in views, viewers, subscribers. They're simply inferior in every way possible.

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>>855232
And here's Fubuki with double the subscribers.

>> No.855306

>>854502
something something sponsors

>> No.855314

>>855232
>>855255
>nearly all of Kuzuha's streams are around 6-10 hours long
>most of Fubuki's are only 1 or 2
shit comparison

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>>855314
Here's Sasaki then, she's getting about the same amount of views, with less than half the subs.

>> No.855410

>>854502
If you're gonna numberfag, at least use numbers that actually matter.

1. Live view count / VOD view count
2. Total revenue, whether it's from YouTube, sponsorships, merchandise, promotional events, live concerts, investors, etc.

>> No.855457

Niji's main issue for overseas people is you need to wade through a lot of trash to find the gold vtubers in their line up. Or the better scenario you start off as a fan of a vtuber who does a collab with one of the talented Niji vtubers and become fans through that connection.

>> No.855506

>>854689
>A lot of the top Holos are between 10-20% foreigner subs or more, who knows.
More like 50% honestly. Hololive's biggest problem is EOPs sub to every talent but never watch their streams, only clips. They're effectively dead subs. Especially the weaker talents, they haven't actually grown in viewership since mid-2020 when EN debuted even though their sub counts have doubled across the board.
>>855252
>What are you even saying? Fubuki has 27k viewers right now.
Because literally no one else is streaming and it's one of the few times she's not playing Apex. If Pekora was streaming FBK would be at 10k or less viewers.
By no means am I saying Hololive is carried by Pekora/Marine but the viewership gap is quite significant during primetime. Maybe not as significant as Nijisanji who are 100% entirely carried by Kuzuha, but a lot of Hololive talents are pretty much just coasting along doing virtually no new content to draw in viewers.
I'm saying this as a Hololive fan so no need to call me a Niji shill or Holo anti or whatever. Their talents need to be more willing to do experimental stuff like Haachama and Marine if they don't wanna stagnate in the shadows of the top performers.

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>>855232
>from 300k+ to 520k
>2m and 1.2m subs
its over holobros...

>> No.855567

>>855410
But the pic is average live viewers of all streams in this month? And both companies have all the thing you listed but Hololive probably makes more money anyway due to the sheer amount of fans.
Also, japanese Nijisanji communities have been doomposting non-stop for a long while now so it's pretty clear that they think Nijisanji is inferior.

>> No.855674

>>855567
>but Hololive probably makes more money anyway due to the sheer amount of fans.
This would be true if Hololive had any actual merch you could buy that isn't limited availability shit. As it stands Niji probably makes up the lack of superchat/membership volume due to their superior merch/sponsorships. Unfortunately Cover were unprepared for this insane growth in 2020 so they're still suffering growing pains.
Even Marine, one of Hololive's indisputable top 3 performers, admitted she had to pay for her upcoming project pretty much entirely from her own pocket because the company has no money to support her.

>> No.855682

>blatant conso- I mean fanbase wars bait thread
>28 replies and counting

>> No.855734

>>855232
Yeah, Kuzuha is a monster. His clique is also doing well.
But a lot of Nijisanji have stagnated.
Basically, all female Nijisanji that aren't Sara, Chihiro and some others are slowing down their growth and getting less and less viewers, because they are losing the competition to Hololive.
I'm not a holofag btw.

>> No.855856

>>854620
that's not fair, aloe is a meme at this point

>> No.856023

>>855506
To make matters worse, people who like to watch Vtuber playing Apex are going to watch Kuzuha and his clique because they are actually good at it
So, every time Hololive is streaming Apex at the same time as Kuzuha are going to lose viewers

>> No.856072

>>855567
>doomposting non-stop for a while
Uh?

>> No.856194

>>855252
>Hololive is destroying Nijisanji in views, viewers, subscribers. They're simply inferior in every way possible.
If you are talking about average, then yeah, Nijisanji average number are horrid because most of its talents are crap
But top from Nijisanji against top from Hololive have comparable numbers. Moreover, there are no one in Hololive comparable to Kuzuha's viewership numbers

>> No.856257 [DELETED] 

>>856194
Was Niji's strategy just to flood the market with over 100 hired vtubers as quickly as possible in as many places as possible? The impression I get is that they didn't have a particular vision at all and that is why to an outsider it looks like a mess.

>> No.856281

>>856194
Was Niji's strategy just to flood the market with over 100 hired vtubers as quickly as possible in as many places as possible to make bank? The impression I get is that they didn't have a particular vision at all about what would group their talent together beyond some shared fantasy themes among some of theme and that is why to an outsider it looks like a mess.

>> No.856304

>>855543
You can thank vod length for that.

>> No.856340

>>856281
Niji's strategy is a bit outdated. They probably planned to just create as many vtubers as possible and then have 100% merchandising rights for those characters if they ever blow up. Because operating costs are basically 0 for a vtuber they don't care about the duds as long as a couple are successful enough to secure sponsorships and merch and a brand. It's just throwing darts at a board and seeing what sticks.

Their management style is much more loose and so they don't have character cohesion or planned ships and shit that Hololive does. It's literally just hiring randos and giving them a vtuber model then expecting them to do vtuber shit on their own.

>> No.856343

>>854502
Once you take off all the holo EOPs, Niji is way bigger than Hololive

>> No.856392

>>856343
>Once you remove part of their active viewership, niji wins
No shit.
Why not remove all the underage viewers then? And all the women too because why not?

>> No.856393

>>856343
So you only need to take away most of the entire planet (including bilinguals), for Niji to suddenly be worth something? Is this really a good flex to use even among weebs?

>> No.856453

>>856343
>once you take off 30-50% of their subs Niji is way bigger than hololive
Antartica temperature IQ

>> No.856455

>>856393
Niji doesn't pander to EOPs (for the most part) and their numbers are huge.

>> No.856531

>>856455
>>>/jp/ is that way, bud

>> No.856613

>>854502
If Nijisanji aren't doing fine then how every other agency is alive even?

>> No.856683

Why are you all taking the bait

>> No.856754

>>854620
I really feel for Chigusa because she's actually talented. She would be having Polka's numbers by now if she went to Hololive instead.

>> No.856852

>>856392
The difference is those people can actually understand what they're watching and are able to appreciate it on a deeper than surface level

>> No.856862

>>856754
Funny thing is. She's friends with Suisei and Kanata too.

>> No.856882

>>856754
Why do you think she would have Polka's numbers?

>> No.856888

>>856852
But that's not what the topic is now is it?

>> No.856905

>>856852
Irrelevant and objectively false anyways, you're a fan too, aren't you?

>> No.856915

>>856455
How do you explain Reddit then? Last time I check, Holos didn't call themselves 'We are Reddit now'

>> No.856953

>>856915
They actually post more than the holo's do too. LOL. Coco posts like once a week (meme shit review), Kanata like once a month. The others haven't in like 4-5 months. Meanwhile fucking Akane posting on their sub like 3-4 times a week. With others coming and going often.

>> No.856978

>>856953
Marine posts all the time, right?

>> No.857046

>>856978
I don't go there often. Took a look and she isn't even a mod there.

>> No.857065

>>854502
But you didn't include the dreaded merchandise numbers OP

>> No.857081

>>857046
I checked her profile and she posts like every second day at least. Guess she's not all talk when it comes to the whole english thing.

>> No.857120

>>857046
She's a mod, just doesn't show up on the shortened list.

>> No.857213

>>856754
In for that she wouldn't have to reunite or collab with her old male friends like Polka. or have to play with an Apex pro and Aka

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>>854502
>>855232
Tokyo Ghoul plays something other than Apex and half his viewers drop him. Not to mention that his like metrics are extremely low for the numbers he regularly pulls.

>> No.857446

>>854502
I'm not familiar with the hololive fandom so I would appreciate an honest answer
Why do their fans take this "rivalry" so seriously, and especially this point
>How can anyone look at this and still think 'they're doing fine' is beyond me.
If someone is not pulling the same numbers as Hololive, they are "not doing fine"?

>> No.857498

>>857243
Likes doesn't matter much.

>> No.857553

>>857446
hololive's boom in popularity last year unfortunately dragged in a lot of ddiqs who care way too much about numberfagging and console war mentality

as someone who was a fan before the boom, it's a bit depressing to see

>> No.857630
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Nijisanji has

More money
More permissions
More fans
Their chuubas are more talented (according to nijisanji fans)

And things look like this at the end of the day

>> No.857699

>>857446
Because for years Holofans posted daily in /v/.
You know how those autist act with company and numbers

>> No.857733

>>856862
Yes, but she's closer to Kanae, Akabane, Tsukasa and Akkun.

>> No.857734

>>857630
>A fucking mobage shilling stream has more viewers than any Nijisanji streams
Damn. She isn't even a Hololive.

>> No.857750

>>857630
The only reason why you would watch Nijisanji is to be a contrarian I think.

>> No.857752

>>857243
Why does theres this guy keep mentioning "like" are important?

>> No.857762

>>857750
https://youtu.be/eNpjIOwMwzo

It would be to watch proud nip streamers who don't need no eops

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>>855674
> if Hololive had any actual merch you could buy that isn't limited availability shit
The fuck are you talking about, Hololive merch sells out so fast most people have to buy it from Yahoo auctions. The fucking curry was sold out lol

>admitted she had to pay for her upcoming project pretty much entirely from her own pocket because the company has no money to support her
Cover put in 50k and Marine put in 50k, she talked about wanting to put more of her money and take less of Cover's as to not lose creative control of the project.

Cover is not struggling for money, they've been on a mass hiring spree trying to catch up to their explosive growth.
Here's the article in the pic https://signal.diamond.jp/articles/-/527

>> No.857779

>>857446
Because for three long years Niji has been dominating the scene and rubbing it into small indie hololive's face so now that hololive is in the top dog position the fans love rubbing it in the former top dog's face.

>> No.857821

>>857750
When watching a streamer stopped being about the streamer first and foremost?

>> No.857832

>>857446
>If someone is not pulling the same numbers as Hololive, they are "not doing fine"?
Not just someone, If you compare a random indie vtuber and Marine that's unfair. But Niji and Cover are both big vtuber company, so it's fair to compare them

>> No.857851

>>856754
Ultimately, hero had more friends in niji and is probably happier there. Also maybe she understood that working closer with matuli might crash their friendship hard and didnt want to wreck it.

>> No.857853

>>857779
>>/jp/thread/S22743486#p22743810

One detail people fail to notice is that nijifags started numberfag culture and they WILL lean to it when they think it's convenient

>> No.857890

You people are actually the consolevsPC of this board
Grow a fucking brain and watch whatever you want to watch and don't let company wars get into your mind, I've veen watching chubas since 2018 and I watch the talents that I like without looking if they are Niji or Holo
Holo fans need to drop that "small" mentality that they have, Niji was bigger than them, but now they are doing better so they are like the new rich that shit on everyone that doesn't have the same amount of money
Niji fans need to drop that "cult" act that they have "muh EOPs" "Niji is the premium, Holo is pleb" and start helping people to reach to their talents instead of keeping them isolated because "I don't want them dirtied by dirty ____"

>> No.857906

>>857890
I think you should calm down.

>> No.857908

>>857750
Cause Holostars are fucking dull as fuck

>> No.857919

>>857853
They really didn't though, search further back in the archive and you will see AI fags going on about how nobody will ever surpass her numbers and Kaguya Luna should just give up.

>> No.857995

>>857890
I don't really think your idea of Nijisanji fans is accurate to begin with. If you take a look outside this website you will find plenty of places that are warm and welcoming to newfags, willing to spoonfeed and everything, with many more Nijisanji fans than here. The people on /jp/ just didn't want their threads to end up like the Hololive ones did so aggressively gatekept newfags and refused to spoonfeed.

>> No.858036

>>857446
vyt and the niji thread in /jp/ loved to shit on Hololive whenever they could because they got popular with western fans. Nijisanji fans would often raid Hololive's general thread to shitpost and shit on the girls with impunity. The real reason is that Nijisanji fans have gone out of their way to handicap Hololive whenever they can by mass reporting their videos, trying to get their talents in trouble and most importantly by sending death threats / harassing Aloe into graduation. vt has no niji meidos to protect nijisanji and their fans so the holofags are shitting on them for once.

>> No.858064

>>857995
Then you have the guy like >>857630 who just want (you) daily visiting. He from /jp/ because he was ignored there.

>> No.858078

>>858036
The niji thread on /jp/ doesn't talk about Hololive at all and tells the people that try to do that tribalistic bullshit there to fuck off.

>> No.858094

>>857995
I mean the fans here in 4 chan, of course that the fans outside this shithole are better, but here they are too elitist and behave like they are better just for being there first, don't get me wrong, I was originally a Niji fan, now I just don't care about companies, only for the talents, but the Niji fanbase in 4chan is as bad as the Holo fanbase

>> No.858117

Nijisanji revenue comes from their business collaboratiobs and events. Even newfags should know this. Numberfaging with them is ridiculous.

>> No.858120

>>858094
I really don't see where the crime is in telling people to lurk more and refusing to spoonfeed. Those used to be basic requirements on this website.

>> No.858123

>>858117
Ah yes the >muh merch argument that nijikeks love to bang on when the numbers don't line up in their favour.

>> No.858127

>>857890
This is a good take.

>>857995
What places? The official subreddit is just like the niji thread, a link dump with almost no discussion because the nijifags on reddit want to keep it dead.

>> No.858150

>>858117
>>857630
Things look like this because nijisanji fans are too busy buying merch to watch them, I see

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do holofags really?

>> No.858170

>>858120
So you are in the "I had to eat shit to find that so you have to do the same" that's retarded, I never had any kind of spoonfeeding when I started here and I don't mind helping newfags
With that said this board has a fuckton of trolls and the mods are too biased, so I kinda get why do you feel that way

>> No.858184

>>858127
When I looked at it not long after they started taking it over there were regular threads for spoonfeeding information about specific members and people answering questions to new people?

>> No.858231

>>858170
I mean look how the majority of this board and 99% of Hololive fans act towards Nijisanji, especially this thread
You surely can't expect existing fans to welcome them with open arms can you

>> No.858233

>>858170
Not really no. It is generally a good thing to encourage people to find out easily found out information for themselves? People who aren't willing to at least do as much as that probably aren't going to be great contributors to a community.

>> No.858244

>>858117
You said it like Holo doesn't have those. Holo just did live event recently with multiple big reveals, when was the last time Nijisanji did anything?

>> No.858264

>>858244
Next few day?

>> No.858271

>>857890
Gatekeeping threads is necessary, otherwise you get the /v/eddit menace plaguing this board.
Not answering newfag questions is a good thing, because doing so will drown out the thread with spoonfeeding.
EOPs should stay out, since nijisanji has barely any subbed content. This is for their own benefit. They will have more fun with hololive and its army of SEA translators.

>> No.858282

>>858244
Kaede's live concert three days ago.

>> No.858317

>>858271
You saying that on thread that pretty much console war

>> No.858342

>>858231
It's true, but this thread is pure bait, that's what I said abou the Holo fans, they have the "new rich in town" mentality, even if most of them weren't there when the Niji fans used to bully them

>> No.858378

>>858271
Remember that (you) were an EOP once

>> No.858380

>>858244
Anon, I...

>> No.858387

>>858264
>>858282
Whoops, didn't see anything trending on twitter, nor any vtubers that I followed(which is around hundreds people) talked about it.
I was talking about the event of the same scale though, not just some small live event.

>> No.858433

>>858387
Anon do you even know what next mean?

>> No.858471

>>858244
Niji puts out free concerts with better animation than hololives $120 concerts

>> No.858493
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Nijisanji fans feel like actual paid shills LOOK AT THAT EXPENSIVE COFFEE MACHINE ISN'T NIJISANJI SO RICH THEY PAID MITO TO GO TO HAWAII

>> No.858530

>>858378
>Remember that (you) were an EOP once
Implying that I shitted up the threads when I was basically an EOP during the golden age of .LIVE
Or that the EOPs I'm talking about are even planning on learning japanese.

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858533

fuck tribalism, just watch both

>> No.858540

>>858471
somebody post the webm

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>>858540

>> No.858593

>>858533
Don't most matsuli fans want her to stop the act already? She doesn't get anything out of this pretend yuri bait

>> No.858600

>>854502
Niji is really living rent free in holofags head for an unpopular company huh

>> No.858614

>>855506
>Hololive's biggest problem is EOPs sub to every talent but never watch their streams
this isn't really a problem, having a sub that does not actively watch your streams is not a negative or a positive
it's just a thing that happens to all channels
all that matters is their viewership numbers and other sources of revenue

>> No.858625

>>858600
But Nijisanji is the most rich sucessful and talented company around

>> No.858640

>>855352
>no reply
Kek, holofags really have thin skin

>> No.858668

>>858557
NO NO NO NO THIS CANT BE TRUE DELET THIS RIGHT NOW!!!!

>> No.858670

>>858557
While Nijisanji's motion tracking is a lot better than Hololives, not really fair to compare a concert meant for an online stream vs a real life concert.
Though it would be interesting to see how sales fare during a paid Nijisanji concert vs Hololive.
The only numbers we have for Hololive is that they sold 10k tickets for Holofes 1 which was before they blew up in popularity.

>> No.858676

japan is the only country that matters with this fad. If you live in a country with no anime roots people won't stop bullying you for being a loser anime otaku just because you like vtubers, get over it

>> No.858682

>>858593
You're not only new but you also pretend like you know jack shit about Matsuri or her fans. It hurts my brain.

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>>858533
They're such good friends...
>Later, at the hotel

>> No.858823

They're doing fine

>> No.858868

>>858676
Nah people still hate anime shit in japan.
There are even vtubers hate group there

>> No.858901

Thanks god none of you watching them.

>> No.858943

>>854502
>company doing worse than the #1 company in its field
truly pathetic

>> No.858949

>>856194
Viewership numbers? Perhaps. Viewership per hour streamed though?

>> No.858978

>>858682
You want her to keep interacting with irrelevant company people?

>> No.859255

>>858682
Lyger, go make me some live TLs. Your かわいい!is getting old

>> No.859273

>>858949
Anon, that Kuzuha guy's VODs have a ridiculously high viewership count... the fact that people even watch the archive of a long ass live stream is beyond me desu

>> No.859307

>>854702
The irony of it few of them are niji rejects

>> No.859452

>>856281
Cover's strategy was better than Ichikara's and we're seeing it here, no arguing that.
I'm just saying nobody watches the bottom tier of Nijisanji, not even diehard Niji fans, so I think that's the dissonance here.
When people say Nijisanji is doing well, they are thinking of Kuzuha and his clique (Kanae, Chihiro, etc.) doing well.

>> No.859473

>>859307
Really quite telling of how shit Niji's selection process is.

>> No.859824

>>858271
It seems to me that Nijisanji wants EOPs boost and money, seeing they are on Reddit all the time, so your actions are opposed to their wishes.

>> No.859861

>>859824
They're in hard denial, nijimeido threw NijiEN discussion into trash when it was announced.

>> No.859978

>>858557
Wow, Nijisanji did a better job!
But the difference in quality might be because of the platform, not each company's technology.

>> No.860517

>>858557
I don't get it. Kizuna Ai and Kafu's events are way better than both of these but they're not really that popular.

>> No.860666

>>860517
Hololive and Nijisanji have a solid fanbase.
They will eat anything up that their oshi produces.

>> No.861463

>>860666
Yeah and that means the quality doesn't matter because the fans are okay with anything.

>> No.861681

Meh, they have bigger corporate money backing, so it’s whatever?

>> No.861800

>>855232
>75% APEX
Nips really have shit taste

>> No.861930

>>861800
Which is what gets me about the permissions argument.
Does it really matter when all most of them play is Apex/MC/Splatoon?

>> No.863708

>>861463
I mean the Niji one is free and not even some long prepared event, they literally announced the concert at Among Us collab a week before.
People are expected anything other than 3D concert.

>> No.863833

I'm a hololive fan and let me be the first to admit that sub counts are never a measure of success. I've watched a few Nijis and plenty of smaller vtubers and enjoy them very much, hololive just has the spotlight right now due to meme appeal. Many of the top girls of hololive don't even get that many views and we're flooded with EoPs spreading like cancer from our english branch. I wish we could go back to gen 3-4 days with less viewers and more intimate chats.

>> No.863939

>>856754
Who needs big numbers when 50% of the total count is retarded EOP ?

>> No.864110
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864110

>>854502
Numberfagging aside I'm surprised at the designs they are able to make work. Like the fat old guy in a bathrobe in the top tier. Who is even the audience for that?

>> No.864282

>>864110
What? you never hear of Maimoto?
I'm pretty sure Holofans at least hear or know about him.
For your question, bro's and housewives.

>> No.864377

At least they still have chinese sponsors and they're allowed on bilibili :)

>> No.864400

>>861800
He says as he goes to watch the millionth minecraft stream this week.

>> No.864438

>>859273
You realize that even playing a 10 hour video for a few minutes is counted as a view by YT?

>> No.864489

>>864282
Maimoto is a fucking treasure

Ui-mama and Subaru don't deserve this good man.

>> No.864522

>>854502
Okay, and what do you want me to do with this info?

>> No.864552

>>856754
You forget she is a koreaboo so obviously she would go to the company with the KR branch.

>> No.864599

>>864552
Can Holo allowed her talking or shilling BL/shota?

>> No.864630

>>855053
>Hololive continuing to stagnate
They're not anywhere near stagnation. Did you miss the whole Hololive Alternative thing?

>> No.864677

>>856754
Lol. I bet Polka regret her decision and should have joined Nijisanji. Her vtuber style suit Niji more than Hololive.

>> No.864723

>>854529
fpbp

>> No.864766

>>855352
I mean, Fubuki is playing some pretty shitty games in that screencap (apex, Venom, death stranding) while Sasaki is playing some popular games (mario 3, Geshin, Among US, Fall Guys).

Notice the views Fubuki has when playing Undertale, which is something a lot of people actually like.

>> No.864803

I watch a couple of holos and a couple of nijis regularly. the production quality of the videos from the holos is on average better, but with the nijis I can actually interact with the streamer. Interaction, you know, that thing that sets a streamer apart from being just a television show host. It's nice.

>> No.864902

>>864766
Fall Guys is hardly popular nowadays, and Onedari Shogi or Gnosia sure as hell aren't.

>> No.865065

>>857120
>She's a mod
All holos are instantly made mods as soon as they make a reddit account.

>> No.865181

>>858433
Hololive Alternative hasn't released yet either, numbskull. They managed to go trending with just the announcement and the teaser.

>> No.865212

>>856343
I buy holomerch and can't understand a goddamn thing that Marine or Fubuki says. I mostly mute them in the background and wait for clips.

>> No.865294

>>854712
I'm very interested to see their EN branch launch. While it's an inevitability, they're in danger taking too long to actually get off the ground, and may miss the wave entirely.
While HoloEN is going to be the immediate comparison due to direct competition, that meteoric rise was a complete anomaly and should NOT be considered the standard. I feel like the smaller groups like VShojo and Tsunderia will be their main targets, otherwise they're at risk of being completely overshadowed in an increasingly saturated Western Market. Unless a lot of resources are dedicated to their success and they establish a quick niche, I don't see it going as well as numbers would have predicted months ago.

>> No.865311

>>864377
Chinks will manufacture some outrage and kick them out like they kicked out kpop and korean dramas.
It's a controlled country with capital controls, CCP policy is to not allow RMB to flow to the outside.

>> No.865424

Why are you guys like this

>> No.865520

>>865311
it's coco manufacturing drama half a year later about china. she refused to get moderation for half a year and you guys still cry about "chinese trolls". it's questionable if there's even any chinese involved or if it's all imaginary/fake wrestling stuff at this point. you schizo alternate between claiming victory and defeating china and bawwing your eyes out how you're a victim and china has their army raiding you 24/7.

kpop got kicked out cause south korea wanted to host missiles aimed at china.
hololive got kicked out cause they're filled with scammers like coco.

>> No.865533

>>865181
Yes, announcement and anime PV, so? People talk about something that has been shown, what a surprise.
Also you should worried about Mizuryu Kei first.

>> No.865577

>>865424
You're effectively asking why do people spread fake news, or why are they more likely to support the side they're already on, and the answer is always confirmation bias and tribalism. Luckily, most people don't really give a shit about any of this. Unfortunately for you, it only takes about 2 people on each side to bait and eventually hit a bump limit with shitposts.

>> No.865623

>>865520
The point is China doesn't want to pay RMB for foreign cultural products that they don't control.
NijiSanji can try to break into the market but it's a fool's errand.
iPhones and EVs are going to be wholly chinese in the next decade too.

You sound like a chink but I aint going to judge. Not worth my time.

>> No.865652

>>865623
>The point is China doesn't want to pay RMB for foreign cultural products that they don't control.
If you knew anything about China you'd know that this is straight up false

>> No.865661

>>865652
Ok tell me more about China Zhang.

>> No.865690

>>865623
>You sound like a chink
Not him but what he said is plausible and sounds like something an ewhore would do.
It just sounds like you're coping and don't have an argument so you reply with "bug" or "Zhang"

>>865661
China is literally dominated with foreign cultural products
You don't even have to be chinese to know this, I swear Cocofags have a collective IQ of 8

>> No.865721

>>865623
>The point is China doesn't want to pay RMB for foreign cultural products that they don't control.
The country that constantly calls for foreign investment doesn't want this
The biggest weeb country doesn't want this?
What the fuck is wrong with you

>> No.865727

>>865652
You're the retard who doesn't know shit about China.

The moment the chink scandal with taiwan blew up I knew what was going on and bought a shit ton of BILI at $40. It has tripled since then.

I also own TCEHY and PPD.

What the chink companies do is they notice that there's a market for goods that is currently foreign sourced then they manufacture some bullshit to stir up nationalist sentiment then they can monopolize that market themselves.

>China is literally dominated with foreign cultural products
Yeah. But that's now and not the future. Brainlet shit for brains, stocks trade on what will happen in the future.

>> No.865752
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865752

>>865623
https://live.bilibili.com/21463219
here's sasaki who more popularity rating than most all of hololive got at 9k. she's only the 17th live streaming right now. nijisanji is doing fine on bilibili especially their cn branch

here's the nijisanji cn branch
https://live.bilibili.com/21696950
their guy is always #1-2 when he streams. he was at 70k popularity.

nijisanji is doing great in china. they aren't trying to leech and scam like hololive. they treat their cn branch great and while not everybody is super popular there's a lot of really popular ones. vtubing has exploded in popularity in china and it's all directed towards people other than hololive.

>> No.865763

>>865727
>that's now and not the future.
Are you retarded?
I don't care about your autistic stock market scandal, that has nothing to fucking do with what I said.
Fucking hell take your meds

>> No.865792

>>855506
They need to turn into a children channel like Pekora if they want to be successful

>> No.865798

>>865752
Top vtubers on bili are all chinese and from chinese corps. That was the game plan all along.

>>865763
Lol stay poor you chink fuck. Man how is it that the chinks don't even know how their own corporations work. China is a captured market.

>> No.865807

>>865727
why are you guys always lying like this? the stock price of bilibli went up cause all the anime production and other stuff they're doing is super well received. hololive doesn't got shit to do with bilibili, schizo. while they were a drain and messing up the vtuber scene that's not worth billions of dollars.

>> No.865816

>>865798
You're autistic

>> No.865841

>>865727
Lmao, it's the same /biz/ BILI guy. Always a treat to have a schizo out themselves.

>> No.865844

>>865752
the fuck is that metric? this is not a chink board fag, convert it

>> No.865849

>>865807
Wrong BILI went up well at least for my investment thesis is that in China there is a huge male to female imbalance ratio and a lot of incels. Housing is unaffordable required for relationships, huge population of singles.

Incels gravitate toward anime and vtubers, so that market is there. China kicking out Hololive is their corporations being smart and kneecapping their biggest competitor.

>> No.865864

>>865807
This
Something wrong with these schizoids

>> No.865873

>>865841
I have a net worth north of 800k. I'm not even thirty.
Maybe you're the schizo.

>> No.865879

>>865798
>the bdp of schizo is shown once again
you guys spam "NOBODY EVEN LIKE CN VTUBER THAT'S WHY CHINK WATCHES JP VTUBER" now you're astroturfing they don't watch jp vtubers? lol

paryi's group isn't a chinese corporation. kagura nana isn't a chinese corp. there's plenty of popular japanese vtubers. there's even a really popular english streamer who way better than anybody in hololive.

she isn't the fake "i'll learn language xD" she's the real learn it.

>> No.865897

>>865873
you just made it very clear who the schizo is, schizo

>> No.865898

>>865873
If you're implying that net worth has anything to do with whether or not you're right about China maybe you're onto something. Because I'm north of 1.5m below 30, and you're a moron.

>> No.865919

>>865849
chinese females are huge on bilibili, retard. their most popular stuff is all oriented towards females too. this is why the person who exploded in popularity the most is the nijisanji cn guy. all their stuff tier production stuff is fujo baits too.

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>>854502
the holos and the nijis are frens and collab from time to time, is very sad to compare

>> No.865943

>>865879
>you guys?
Who? Anyways the way China is moving they'll consume more domestic cultural content going forward. It happened with Hollywood movies so it'll happen with Vtubers.

>>865897
Sure my man. I believe you. Did you make that all yourself like I did?

>>865898
whatever you say ricel

>>865919
Whatever anyways BILI has been a good stock so far.

>> No.865980

>>865922
The talent sure, but the viewer aren't especially on this site.

>> No.865983

>>858557
I felt robbed watching Rushia's and Haato's duo at the holofes, one of the worst "dances" I've ever seen in a professional show, and I didn't even pay for it! If not for Matuli and Sora it would've been a shitfest.

>> No.866000

Subs don't matter as long as the revenue keeps coming in. Coco and Rushia are the top superchats. I don't know how Nijisanji is doing when it comes to superchats.

>> No.866014

>>858557
>>865983
Didn't these motherfuckers take dancing lessons? Aren't they supposed to be FUCKING idols? what is this shit

>> No.866021

>>865943
Bro seek help you sound literally insane

>> No.866041

>>866000
Different take on superchat for each person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i01AKcuLfdA&t=3s

>> No.866047

>>865980
You're just looking at the wrong threads. If you post something blatantly off-topic, people will shit on you regardless, but there are plenty of HoloNiji threads that work fine for a while, and Holofans sincerely trying to get into Niji don't get told off except by that one dude.

The /aud/ thread ironically has more normal people than these schizo threads, and while most people watch Hololive as expected, people will honestly take whatever company they can get.

>> No.866051

>>865844
popularity is a mix of chat activity, donations, and viewers. it depends on the moment when it's happening. it's not 70k but 700k i mess up the conversion. it's like 100k viewers

>>865943
It happened with Hollywood movies so it'll happen with Vtubers.
this line of thought is stupid. they always restricted hollywood imports from the begin. their own movies and entertainment was always more popular and wide spread. they gave hololive carte blanche and now we got coco manufacturing drama and anti-china sentiment cause she refuses to moderate some trolls or is directly doing it herself.

right now there's still very popular jp vtubers and as long as they don't turn into scammers like hololive then they'll be fine.

>> No.866064

>>854502
Massive success is not the only kind of success.

>> No.866077

>>866051
Ok ching chong. Was showing a video with google analytics with "Taiwan" in it really such a huge problem?

Chinks are so easy to rile up. I remember in 2014 the economy wasn't doing so well so the CCP just told everyone to smash japanese cars and businesses.

>> No.866088

>>866014
Haato had the excuse of being in Australia for quite some time, Rushia has none, being menhera isn't an excuse, get help.

>> No.866113

>>866077
>with "Taiwan" in it really such a huge problem
No not really which is why no one really cared when Haato did it
>economy wasn't doing so well so the CCP just told
Making up schizophrenic theories doesn't help your case

>> No.866147

>>866088
I mean even then there's no excuse for that awful fucking animation for their paid "concert"

>> No.866164

>>866047
The problem is that some sentiment that came out from these thread is also spreading on some normal headed person as in when the meme keep repeated it somehow become reality to outsider.
As i for one wish both company relationship are back to 2019.

>> No.866170

>>858978
It's not about business. Never was.

>> No.866185

>>866077
>WE JUST SHOWED A PICTURE OF TAIWAN!!!!!!!!!
then why didn't coco apologize and recognize it's the chinese province of taipei and there's only one china?

cause it's political and she wants to appeal to redditors who want to free hk and taiwan. so she's not allowed on bilibili and her company got kicked off. not everybody is dumb fuck like you, little retard kid.

if cover doesn't recognize it as a province then they're moved from doing business in china. airlines and billion dollar corporations can't avoid this let alone little grifter company cover.

after they got kicked out the "raids" was just cover milking drama by refusing to get moderation. cause you're scummy and retarded. everybody else on the web deals with trolls by banning them but a cover just pretends like technology isn't there yet so donate more money.

>> No.866219

>>866113
It was actually 2012. Bug people are soulless, their their government has such an easy time manipulating their thoughts and emotions.

No it's from the CCP playbook, something bad happened internally, let's direct anger towards Japanese or Americans or something.

>>866113
https://www.businessinsider.com/pictures-of-the-anti-japan-protests-in-china-2012-9
Yeah all of this is just made up. Lol try harder chink.

>>866185
>Apologizing to chinks
LOL really? You think chinks would stop at an apology? The chinese have no souls if anything they would be encouraged by an apology to do more damage.

>> No.866226

>>866185
>ike technology isn't there yet so donate more money
This
Also cry on stream and have your gen mate come "comfort" you
Get all those supachats

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866229

>>866185
*insect noise*
Ok open your mouth

>> No.866240

>>866185
I don't even watch holo but that shit's just unreasonable.

>> No.866253

Only good thing that China has for them is that they treat their workers like slaves and work them to death. Great companies to own.

Smells like rice in here. I'm out. China is a slave race.

>> No.866258

>>866219
>Yeah all of this is just made up.
Yeah you did
Where is the CPC telling people to go out and protest against Japan?
take your meds
>government has such an easy time manipulating their thoughts and emotions.
500k died

>> No.866260

>>866219
>apology is proven to work
>HAHAH WE DON"T GOTTA!!! [insert racism]
yeah and that's why cover is kicked off bilibili and blacklisted.

i don't really care either. the most annoying part is how you hololive subhumans continue to pretend like the ccp army is raiding you constantly cause you're so mentally ill you don't get moderation for a youtube chat. you're really sick in the head.

>> No.866267

>>866185
Wow there are actually people with 3 digit IQ here I'm genuinely surprised

>> No.866280

>>866185
>then why didn't coco apologize and recognize it's the chinese province of taipei and there's only one china?
because it's not.
taipei is the capital of the independent country of taiwan.
your country is fractured and ready to collapse.

>> No.866284

>>866240
I mean Cover action about chink raid and Coco mod is equally unreasonable.

>> No.866287

>>866185
imagine being a chink, must be fucking hell

>> No.866293

>>866253
God I love seeing you westerners seethe and cope at China's success
You get so mad about a country thousands of miles away

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866309

>>866253
And cute vtubers

>> No.866310

>>866287
>Send Coco gore pictures and death threats for months for a google analytics screenshot
>It's because Hololive is a bunch of scammers
Chink brains everyone.

>> No.866317

>>854620
These numbers... these are bad numbers...

>> No.866323

>>866293
you get mad at an anime girl reading youtube analytics

>> No.866324

>>866280
>taipei is the capital of the independent country of taiwan.
Not according to Japan
>your country is fractured and ready to collapse.
You said the same thing 40 years ago kek

>> No.866337

>>866240
>HEY YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DIVIDE YOUR COUNTRY! THAT'S UNREASONABLE!! YOU GOTTA GIVE YOUR MONEY!!
no dumbass. if it's not the province of taipei then you aren't welcome.

>>866280
sorry but you're so mentally retarded you can't even figure out how to moderate a chat on youtube so your thoughts about geopolitics are ignored. maybe when you evolve enough brain cells to figure out the technology call "ban" i'll humor you. even twitter lets people moderate their tweets so there's no excuse. you guys are just subhuman retards just proving how pathetic and wrong you are.

>> No.866350

>>866293
If you're so superior to the western hemisphere, then riddle me this, Chinkman:
Why are you currently speaking English on an English speaking website created by a white man to emulate a Japanese website?
Shouldn't you be spending your precious time on superior chinese websites?
Because believe me, literally every party would gain from it. You could browse your superior chinese internet and we wouldn't have to... bask in your brilliance.

>> No.866354

>>866310
Imagine being a cuck schizoid such as yourself and caring about that shit
What, are you going to give her more money whenever she cries on steam again from all the "harassment"
And even then that still ain't shit compared to what fucking Aole got

>> No.866361

>>866323
the funny part is that Taiwan was first because chinks were using a VPN to watch Coco. It's just too funny

>> No.866389

>>866337
>that want to divide your country
Literally all that was done was reading youtube statistics as is. China must be weak if that is enough to break it apart.

>> No.866392

>>866354
Aloe had it bad too. Some Chinese people also stood up for her which was good in my eyes. But then they turn around and try to fuck up Coco for a youtube analytics screenshot.

>> No.866398

>>866323
I'm not even subscribed to fucking Coco
Hated the bitch since she debuted, awful voice.
>>866350
>Why are you currently speaking English
Because I'm not Chinese you autistic schizoid
You're absolutely seething at Xi's success
You can't fucking stand the fact that China isn't collapsing or collapsed
But guess what, you seething on a Mongolian basket weaving form ain't going to stop China's rise
Seethe and cope

>> No.866405

>>866398
>Because I'm not Chinese you autistic schizoid
Uh huh

>> No.866415

>>866398
>Because I'm not Chinese
Doubt.jpg

>> No.866417

>>866361
Meme, they have an actual taiwanese following and it's big.

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866429

Forget about this shit and post Tia.

>> No.866434

I don't know about you, but the fact that Hololive is cucked by a lot of video game companies and are still ending up making a huge profit while Nijisanji who has permission from every video game company but the most viewed member is someone playing a F2P battle royal that everyone can play is pretty pathetic.

>> No.866444

>>866392
>and try to fuck up Coco for a youtube analytics screenshot.
Good
I hate that bitch, but she hasn't seen fucking anything when it comes to anti bullying
She's literally just milking the shit for more money and you fucks are defending it.

>> No.866466

>>866398
>Because I'm not Chinese
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

>> No.866472
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866472

>>866354
>>866310
>be a schizo subhuman
>spam chink and gore about china on 4chan
>decide being a regular schizo isn't enough so you go full schizo and believe typing tiananmen square disconnects chinese wumao hacker army spies from the internet
>be part of a niche audience that spams death threats and other stuff so much a girl from cover had to graduate to avoid it
>ignore japanese antis graduating aloe
>ignore westerners doing insane stuff everywhere on the web
>pretend "OMG HOW CAN A CHINESE ANTI DO THISS!!!!!!!!! IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!! HOW CAN THEY DO IT!!!!"
>don't moderate any of it at all. pretend banning technology doesn't exist and play the victim constantly while not banning or moderating like every other sane person on the web
>HOW CAN CHINESE DO THIS!?!?!?! [insert racism, gore, genocide threats, and wanting to destroy a country with 1,4 billion people].
>THEY'RE SICK

>> No.866473

>N-nooo they sent a gore picture and said they'll cut me!!!
>Meanwhile Aole gets a call to her literal house and has her ex boyfriend fucking harassed
You people don't fucking know what harassment is

>> No.866495

>>866472
Seethe all you want it won't change shit

>> No.866505

>>866472
>>866473
I thought harassment toward Aloe and Coco were both unreasonable.
China is kinda hated now around the world though, they covered up the start of the virus.

>> No.866538

>>866495
Meant for
>>866466
.
>>866505
>China is kinda hated now around the world though
How do you people keep repeating this shit? Dk you just live in your own little world?
Daily reminder it doesn't matter what the citizens think it matters what the government thinks and their trade policies

>> No.866550

>>854502
I'm conviced these threads are made by falseflaggers just to make it seem like ppl care more about niji than they actually do.

>> No.866559

>>866505
Aloe deserved it tho for slandering Chitose and Niji.

>> No.866574

>>866538
I do live in my own little world behind a great firewall established by my authoritarian government which controls all media and all online discussion forums with an iron fist.

Oh wait that's you. I guess that's why you're here and not behind your firewall.

>> No.866581

>>866550
I convinced that you and your dumb narrative bitch should commit suicide.

>> No.866583

>>866505
>China is kinda hated now around the world though
take your meds.
>*chinese gdp goes up*
>*china signs largest trade deal in the world with sea countries*
>*china signs a trade with europe*
aloe had people calling her house and got ptsd.

coco refused to get a moderator for half a year so she could milk donations. cover getting kicked out of china is natural, but refusing to ban the chinese trolls is cause cover is scummy and milking anti-china redditors like yourself. both twitter and youtube allow cover to remove any chinese anti who is trolling.

>> No.866584
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866584

>>866505
>they covered up the start of the virus.
I'm about to get banned, but this bitch literally reported early signs to the Wuhan CDC who then reported to the WHO and America's CDC
There was no fucking cover up at all, Americans just didn't think the virus would affect them at all so they decided to do nothing

>> No.866616

>>866574
dude stop seething and maybe you'll make sense

>> No.866697

>>866616
If you hate the west so much why are you on 4chan? Go on NGA or something.

Am I seething? I don't think I'm seething. I think you're seething. You'd probably seethe more if I mention how I fucked few chinese exchange students back when I was a junior getting my finance degree. Easiest scores of my life.
They don't fuck their own for some reason.

>> No.866713

>>866583
>both twitter and youtube allow cover to remove any chinese anti who is trolling.
talking from experience?

>> No.866720

>>866697
See
>>866616

>> No.866730

>>864110
He's not fat

>> No.866760

>>866584
China decided to spread the virus to the world by not stopping international flights and quarantining everyone in Wuhan.

>> No.866823

>>866581
You first.

>> No.866836 [DELETED] 

>>854712
>SC matters
Not for 2324

>> No.866837

>>866713
experience of having a brain? yes. i also got twice your iq. i read twitter allows people to delete stuff in their own tweets in a news article. i know youtube has chat moderation that can ban too.

>> No.866846

Nijiniggers in 4chan are actually chinks? Now everything makes sense.

>> No.866858

Man chinks are really fragile huh?

>> No.866883

>>866713
Yep these are chinks you're dealing with.
They'll create hundreds of twitter accounts to spam you with gore and death posts and turn around and say you're being racist by not blocking their harassment spam.

>> No.866886

>>866473
How come you can't spell Aloe?
You keep spelling it as "Aole".

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866912

>>866858
>be so fragile you develop some schizo fantasy typing tiananmen square disconnects chinese
>spam it while it does nothing but keep trying cause they btfo you hard
lol

>> No.866913

>>866883
>>866858
>>866846
Are these bots or Americans really are hiveminded animals?

>> No.866937

>>860517
Stop spewing this stupid ass "kizuna ai" isnt popular. You don't live in Japan and you don't see how wildly successful she is in that country.

>> No.866949

>>866858
anon, they're still seething in a amateur honduran beatbox practicing forum because an anime girl say a no-no word in a website they shouldn't be watching on the first place. Can you actually be more pathetic than that?

>> No.866952

>>866913
>hiveminded
That's rich coming from a chinkoid

>> No.866959

>>866883
>HUNDREDS!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HUNDREDS
100 clicks and they're gone. you click more times browsing reddit in a couple minutes than it requires to remove them.

you little pathetic retards aren't the only people on the web dealing with harassment. they didn't add those tools cause little retard redditors are battling chinese anti. they added them cause other people are harassed by way more people and for longer. they deal with it easily, but somehow you're still bitch crying.

>> No.866960

>>866913
I'm french.

>> No.867009

>>854502
Hololive utilize the typical whitebox method,
Nijisanji is of a monte carlo approach.
Even though the performance of nijisanji is not as good as hololive, it is a pretty safe and reasonable approach.

>> No.867011

>>866959
Yes my chink brother.
Truly it is the dirty westerners who are being racist by not blocking our gore and spam.
The chinese are victims in this scenario like always.

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867014

>>866913
I'm argentinian

>> No.867029 [DELETED] 

>>866260
Apologies do not on people who have no soul. For example, apologizing to libtards never works because they only use it to fuel their hate more and will use it against you. The same with the chinks because the chinks are commies and commies are just violent libtards, but libtards none the less.

>> No.867033

>>867014
I love this meme

>> No.867055

>>867033
good for you but being argentinian is not a funny meme to me

>> No.867062

>>867029
I thought there was an apology. Hololive sent a letter saying they agreed with one china policy and put haato and coco on suspension for three weeks.
From what I remember it made them angrier.

>> No.867064

>>867011
seething subhuman. they got those tools cause western people on twitter and youtube harass and spam that stuff. they didn't add them to battle chinese antis you pathetic sack of shit. you're such a fucking retard loser you can't even figure out how to ban some antis so they get bored and go away. even if they're persistent all big celebrity deal with worse and they just have the person who manages their twitter remove/report it.

you're a retard slave so you should be able to do this much, but somehow you're such a idiot failure at life you can only cry about some antis while being a little limp dick.

>> No.867090

>>867055
Stay strong hermano

>> No.867102

>>867064
Lol and the chink says i'm seething.
I'm not the one who is seething my good micropenised friend.

>> No.867125

>>867062
There were 2 apologies. The one china policy wasn’t in the JP and EN ones for obvious reasons. No idea how they thought they were going to get away with playing both sides there.

>> No.867134

>>867014
Argentina is in America so you are American

>> No.867165

>>867102
you're such a little dick micropenis sissy you are crying about a tiny group of antis half a year later cause they post a meanie on twitter and your iq is too low to remove it.

oh wait lemme guess it's not a little group of antis instead they're wumao hacker chinese spies army sent by the ccp?

>> No.867204

>>867134
no, in english no

>> No.867206

>>867125
So if they put it in the JP apology then it would have been enough? They should have done that.

>> No.867215

Enough bots from dedicated losers can be overwhelming for a system even with moderation. Why do you think 4chan has captcha despite having moderators?

>> No.867269

>>866952
It's how they work.
They're a hivemind so they accuse you of being hivemeind.
They seethe so they accuse you of seething.
They are micropenised so they accuse you of being micropenised.

>> No.867279

>>867165
why are you so angry? and why are you talking about your sissy fetish now?

>> No.867287

>>867125
Makes me wonder if Hololive would have lost much if they kept the same statment everyone that they support the communist regime? I doubt much considering how much the west consumes Chinese products despite their hate of China, and zommers support communism.

>> No.867316

>>867215
Because the mods are lazy like in any work environment. People will always do the least work if they can get away with it and they still get the same amount of pay.

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867362

>>867287
Not enough they should have done this unironically.

>> No.867381

>>867215
>NOOO IT'S NOT JUST SOME ANTIS XI JINPING PERSONALLY ORDERED IT!!! I SWEAR THE ENTIRE CHINESE NATION IS DOING IT!!!!!!
you are so pathetic. you're a sissy bitch crying about a meanie on twitter and pretending 1,4 billion people are raiding you.

>Why do you think 4chan has captcha despite having moderators?
i love how you're pretending that somehow youtube doesn't have captcha even more restrict than 4chan. you're also pretending it's difficult for a moderator to read a chat on a stream and ban people like they do on twitch and every other chat program for over 30 years now.

it's actually comical how retarded you guys are.

>> No.867395

>>867362
well haachama already eats disgusting shit so it's something

>> No.867407

>>867362
hot

>> No.867434

I'm just glad Holo keeps /pol/ shit out of their streams while some Nijisanji has members who don't have a problem bringing up /pol/ shit like Hana.

>> No.867469

>>867381
Why do you chinks keep mentioning 1.4 billion people like it's a get out of trouble card?
Most people don't hate china so much if you would just act more civilized.

>>867434
Ars had a youtube analytics video with Taiwan in it too but the chinks didn't care enough to harass her. Nice of Coco to take the bullet for her.
Video's deleted now but you can still find it in an archive.

>> No.867470

>>867434
Huh?

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867495

>>867362
This is simultaneously hot as fuck and disgusting as fuck.

>> No.867556

>>867469
The problem isn't with the youtube analytics. No one got mad at Haato or Ars.
Trump was being extremely hard on China at that time a lot of people lost their jobs and Coco was a nip who grew up in America.

>> No.867638

>>855506
Hololive needs to hire official clippers to get those views back, every company needs them desu

>> No.867677

>>867362
Where tf fuck u get this? Post more pls I'm sucker for ryona stuff

>> No.867708

>>867677
I got it from 4chan

>> No.867966

>>867556
So... what you're saying is... China dindu nuffin?

>> No.868186

>>858670
>not really fair to compare a concert meant for an online stream vs a real life concert.
that's actually more embarrassing for the real life concert

>> No.868460

>>858670
They were both online

>> No.868759

>>857243
Tarkov is mostly uneventful and a bore to watch for a lot of people, so it's a given he has comparatively low viewership when playing it. Right now he has 17k at 4 in the morning playing Smash Bros. It is true a lot of people only watch his Apex stuff though

>> No.868880

>>864902
And as you can easily see, those three games pulled pretty bad numbers for Sasaki compared to everything else. His point still stands and applies to all vtubers; blindly comparing numbers without context is foolish.

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868993

>>857446
>Company A fans relentlessly taunt Company B fans over their inferior success for years
>After a while, Company B surges far ahead of Company A in popularity
>Company B fans begin to taunt Company A fans in revenge
>"I don't get it guys, why are Company B fans so obsessed with numbers?"
>>858078
Because they got blown the fuck out so hard for their past pro-niji numberfagging that they now play the "c-cmon guys, lets get along" card in an attempt to save face. Fuck off with you revisionist history you tourist.

>> No.869195

>>858557
They obviously hired professional dancers for the motion capture on the left.

>> No.869246

>>869195
Even then it's fucked that Hololive, an IDOL company, has motion capture that bad
And fucking charges for it

>> No.869464

>>868880
I don't disagree that it's pointless to compare numbers without context. I'm saying that he's right that Sasaki has a higher sub:view ratio and that "shitty games" isn't a defense, but I'm in agreement that it doesn't mean anything.

>> No.869659

>>869195
Ah yes, obviously, because you are so familiar with them you just know they can't pull it off.

>> No.871796

>>866837
You can't delete other people's shit on Twitter, at most you can block them.

>> No.872878

>>868993
>>858036
>Company A fans relentlessly taunt Company B fans over their inferior success for years
Out yourself as newfag and your bullshit tribalist narrative huh? even samefagging yourself, embarrassing

>> No.872901

>>857890
This is an extremely good take.

>> No.873256

>>859307
Only Luna is. There's no other ones on there.

>> No.874337

>>857446
Nijiniggers have always been uppity. They got mad about fubuki doing the scatman and it has become an even worse shit flinging contest ever since.

>> No.874472

>>874337
what's wrong with fubuki making scatman noises?

>> No.875616

>>867062
>From what I remember it made them angrier
Well, yeah. If the only punishment that the ones who threatened your country stability got is 3 weeks of suspension, then anyone would be mad.

>> No.875948

>>867362
so that's why haachama's DID/schizofrenia grow stronger

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