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8178031 No.8178031[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

She's right you know.

>> No.8178085 [DELETED] 

Nice OP. Haven't seen this thread a thousand times before or anything.

>> No.8178191

Lol no she’s not. The parasocial mechanism is completely different. But why would a vtuber understand complex psychosocial phenomena, it’s not their job nor their talent.

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>> No.8178282

>>8178031
Yes, she is totally right and /vt/ will still defend this.

>> No.8178297

Why she is a bitch?

>> No.8178314 [DELETED] 
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8178314

She's right
That's why i watch japanese e-girls as well now

>> No.8178341

>>8178031
I guess she's got a camgirl roomate then eh?

>> No.8178367

>>8178314
okayu?!

>> No.8178370

>>8178031
She isn't because there isn't a lot of hentai of e-whores but there is of v-tubers.

Until someone makes a "Rape Shion" quality doujin of your retarded twitch whores they can't ever compare.

>> No.8178449

>>8178370
Well most e-girls aren’t asking for it as much as Shion is…

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>>8178031
she thought she was being smart when typing this isn't she?

>> No.8178575

>>8178314
Holy shit, who the fuck is this?

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>y’all
she’s probably parroting some comment she read

>> No.8178643

>>8178031
The difference is they're crushed under the thumb of corporate which is based. The argument works for vshitshow and nijisanji but not hololive.

>> No.8178683

>>8178314
Why did I find this hot? What the hell happened with me..

>> No.8178688

>>8178314
BASED?!?!?!?!

>> No.8178728

Vtubers are liked because they try to portray an idealized version of a woman. E-girls openly exude all the qualities that make women awful.
Sure, if you take away the model and the character persona from a vtuber you're just left with an e-girl but the game of pretend between both the vtuber and the viewer is what makes them special.

>> No.8178734

How would you define e-girl though? A girl who streams? If you use such a broad definition then yes, but if e-girl is meant to signify a camgirl specifically, who shows off her body and undresses for money and attention, then vtuber no longer applies.

>> No.8178774

>>8178314
mogu mogu mogu

>> No.8178796

>>8178683
Obese people are addicted to pleasure

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>>8178452
>>8178599
Hana's dad is an unironic supporter of the indo socialist party. Add that with how much Hana loved to do these old 'woke' tweets, her disdain for chan humor that 'belittles women' and other twitch/thot pandering it's no wonder she went from a streamer with thousands of live views to now getting a couple of hundred. Noone is sticking around for some no fun allowed slut that's always got something to whine/complain about in the vtuber community.

>> No.8178834

>>8178314
Holy BASED. Give name, now

>> No.8178870

>>8178683
you're getting older and staying single for so long making you desperate, hence lowering your standard.

>> No.8178880

>>8178031
Not all girls are the same. Not all vtubers are the same. This statement has no point.

>> No.8178888

>>8178031
Hana your dad is more entertaining than you.

>> No.8178893

Vtubing is ethottery
It's just that they give an easy out with "They don't actually show their bodies on stream"
This isn't awarded to actual ethots, if your watching amouranth for example everyone knows whats going on.
The reality is the fans are the same breed and its painfully obvious once you go into their generals to read the "discussion" about them.
Every wah general is made up of atleast 70% of them hopelessly in love with the person behind the avatar and not the character Ina.

>> No.8178897

>>8178314
Japanese food isnt that fattening, wtf

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>>8178314
WHO?

>> No.8178913

So what? E-girls is a child's play.
VTubers are e-celebs. This is a celebrity board.

>> No.8178916

>>8178815
yeah that's what happened, her entire audience "did their own research" all at once
it's not like she suddenly got 12 additional competitors in less than a year or anything

>> No.8178918

>>8178314
Okayu, Polka and Botan (hag version).

>> No.8178927

>>8178897
>there's no junk food in Japan
Anon..

>> No.8178936

She is irrelevant now, a literal who. She isn't even remember to be a Vtuber anymore, she is only remembered for these shit tweets.

>> No.8178941

>>8178031
She's also shit. Stupid fragile cunt

>> No.8178944

>>8178314
Mogu mogu yummy~

>> No.8178947

>>8178031
Depends on how much the Vtuber leans into the kayfabe of their character. I'm guessing this bitch just played it straight in which case yes, shes basically just a regular e-girl streamer who is too lazy or ugly to be successful using a facecame.

>> No.8178968

>>8178314
looks like my sister...................................

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>>8178314

>> No.8178982

>>8178936
And other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself!

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>>8178916
Her numbers dipped massively before HoloEN anon. There was another, smaller exodus when EOP could finally watch someone who wasn't miserable and whiney though. Good job sticking around anyway cuck, Hana has a lot of respect for people that simp for vtubers.

>> No.8179033

>>8178314
Suddenly architect thread ...

>> No.8179038

>>8178982
Cope

>> No.8179058

>>8178031
I still like Hana. Granted, I don't simp her because impure. But sincerity is definitely my niche. Maybe it's because I'm too old for zoomie bullshit.

>> No.8179092 [DELETED] 

>>8178947
Hana thinks having a character is cringe and embarassing. She's atleast polite enough to not act like a dick when she's collabing with someone that tries tho.

>> No.8179139

>>8178367
>>8178575
>>8178774
>>8178834
>>8178910
>>8178944

https://twitter.com/a1_fuwa

>> No.8179187

The fact that Hana could have been THE English vtuber but crash and burned everything because she was under too much pressure says a lot about her. Everytime she could get good numbers for herself she self sabotages so it'll go down. She's hopeless.

>> No.8179274

>>8179187
Yeah I'm sure everyone wants to have Gura's fanbase.

>> No.8179301

>>8179187
literally risu

>> No.8179320

>>8179058
>I don't simp her because impure.
>But sincerity is definitely my niche.
Nice cope.

>> No.8179332

>>8178031
If she's right, why did she become completely irrelevant after this?

>> No.8179379

>>8178031
Is she really indonesian? She tweets like a trashy girl from California

>> No.8179410 [DELETED] 

>>8179332
The losers willing to put up with a vtuber that puts 0% effort into their character and engages in twitter culture/liberal politics are already sucked up by vshoujo.

>> No.8179436

>>8178314
This is just obese... not hot

>> No.8179449

>>8178449
Debatable
You think Fed raped Pokimane and LilyPichu because they weren't asking for it????

>> No.8179471

>>8179379
She isn't Indonesian, if I'm not mistaken, she was studying there.

>> No.8179494
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>Coco graduates
>everyone instantly moved to her 3DPD e-thot roommate channel acting like nothing’s changed
The fuck do you think? Of course she’s right. You’re a hypocrite if you think otherwise

>> No.8179587

>>8178031
>The tweets that torpedoed a career

>> No.8179591

>>8179379
iirc she's only part indog and lives in the states

>> No.8179612
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>>8179092
Meanwhile she and all her fans pretend the guy who sounds 30 at most with a completely different accent is her father

>> No.8179647

>>8178916
How come this doesn't happen to other vtubers? Why didn't the previous hololive generations lose views and superchats when gen 5 debuted? Why is it only bores who insult their own audience?

>> No.8179654

>>8179494
>Coco graduates
>Everyone instantly moved to another vtuber named kson that sounds like her

>> No.8179667

I watched her stream a couple days ago.
It was pretty good.
I think she unintentionally provides GFE by just being herself and talking to stream. Her stream personality is just her without any acting.
She talks about everything whether it be any triumphs or insecurities or just mundane things going on in her life.
She seemed pretty happy though maybe numbers wasn't her goal?

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>>8179139
>Tfw it fat JP onlyfans account

>> No.8179695

>>8179449
I mean that's fucked up but you have a good point

>> No.8179714

>>8179612
It's plausible. We don't really know much about her family situation or where she grew up.

>> No.8179732

>>8179654
I'll kill you

>> No.8179749

>>8178191
>The parasocial mechanism is completely different
lmao imagine coping this hard.

>> No.8179750

>>8178916
She lost viewers before EN right?

>> No.8179774

>>8179667
And she finds you heckin invalid for thinking of her as gfe friendo, y’all I can’t even with this heckin guy

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>>8179714
>copium mines are running low sir

>> No.8179867

>>8178031
Nah, it is different. It's hard to tell exactly what is, but they obviously feel different, otherwise we wouldn't watch one and exclude another. I'll let some keen anon explain it on my behalf.

>> No.8179893

>>8179139
I want to stuff that nip with western meat

>> No.8180021

>>8178031
>vtubers are actually just virtual e-girls
Not they are not. Lots of people follow Hololive for the idol stuff, and regular e-girls don't provide that at all. It's an hybrid between e-girls and idols I'd say. There's also the fact that people act differently when they don't have to show their faces, and that lots of vtubers are in agencies that organize stuff while most e-girls are independent.

A better tweet would have been to tell people to stop spending time talking about things they don't like as it doesn't serve any purpose, and just talk more about things they like

>> No.8180022

>>8179867
They're just japanese and therefore cute, that's the difference

>> No.8180107 [DELETED] 

>>8179612
>Picks up all the weird memeshit quickly
>sounds late 20s/early 30s
>Loves lefty shit that's popular with young men on twitter
Hmmm.....

>> No.8180296

>>8178314
HNNNNNNNG THICCCC

>> No.8180328

>>8179867
It's because your love for 2d is overriding your 4chan grown aversion to the 3d realm that our hamster brains are able to lie to themselves and act like there's some actual different when it's the same shit with a different coat of paint

>> No.8180390

>>8179732
mad?
Yup!!! you're mad!! I'm right!!

>> No.8180391

>>8178314
hot

>> No.8180496

>2D = 3D. same
I DONT FUCKIN THINK SO

>> No.8180501

>>8178314
>>8179139
I thought this thread was gonna be garbage baiting. Very nice.

>> No.8180514

>>8180328
>it's the same shit with a different coat of paint
Therefore it's not the same shit. I know that there are a lot of autists here that like to pretend that appearance and presentation don't matter, but it does, a lot. Thing like vtubers rarely mentioning their romantic/sexual life matters a lot

>> No.8180686

>>8179612
It's funny how shitty American health and living standards are you can't sound a certain way to be considered a father/mother etc. Like no, not every american is a haggered fat sack of shit that sounds like they're 60 and out of touch by the age of 32.

>> No.8180801

>>8180686
He's a seanig, they're already genetically defective

>> No.8180804

>>8178031
>y'all
Opinion discarded, wigger.

>> No.8181124

>>8178815
>Hana's dad
>indo
Stopped reading there, you don't know shit.

>> No.8181179

>>8178370
>She isn't because there isn't a lot of hentai of e-whores but there is of v-tubers.
Every other argument against Hana is retarded, but this one is based.

>> No.8181241

>>8180801
Not as defective as white Americans, who age like milk.

>> No.8181274

>>8179612
>with a completely different accent
Have you actually watched her? The Bostonian slips out often enough it's pretty clear she grew up with the guy, if not in the city itself.

>> No.8181276

>>8181241
>t.white American

>> No.8181302 [DELETED] 

Is there a bigger sign of low test than having Hana as your oshi? She thinks people like you are lower than dirt, the only positive angel you could get out of it is if you like NTR (which seems likely from her fanbase)

>> No.8181312

>>8181241
>white Americans
No such thing

>> No.8181367

>>8179449
Based

>> No.8181389

>>8180801
Please at least pretend you've watched her...
Her dad is American. She's not indo in the first place, she's there on a scholarship.
You guys don't ACTUALLY go on /vt/ and complain about chuubas you don't even watch clips of, right? You aren't that sad? Right?

>> No.8181524

>>8181389
Then why does she have the same indog accent as Reine? It’s subtle but enough to know she’s not American

>> No.8181545

>>8181389
>She's not indo in the first place, she's there on a scholarship.
Why the fuck would she be in Niji ID if she's just on a scholarship? Genuinely asking, I don't watch her

>> No.8181616

>>8181545
Because she knows Indo and applied when she was just starting college, so she planned to be there for a few years anyway.
(She also applied as a joke, but they liked her enough that even after she told them during interviews she's not like her application video they wanted her anyway)

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>>8179139
>3773 fans in Fantia

>> No.8181734

>>8178893
>Every wah general is made up of atleast 70% of them hopelessly in love with the person behind the avatar and not the character Ina.
Damn I didn't know takodachi had it that bad

>> No.8181777

>>8178893
>Every wah general is made up of atleast 70% of them hopelessly in love with the person behind the avatar and not the character Ina.
That's bullshit, no one in /wah/ knew Ina pre Hololive, they just like daydreaming about her and thinking about how she is when she's not streaming. People are in love with Ina, everyone that pretends otherwise is a lier unless he can prove he followed her in her [REDACTED] days

>> No.8181972

>>8181389
No, she's Indonesian through and through. Do you even listen to her? She speaks like a total ESL.

>> No.8182041

>>8179379
>>8179591
American/JP hafu, lives in ID.

>> No.8182177

>>8179139
I was expecting an ura aka joshi hashtag

>> No.8182219

>>8178031
This is what people were mad at her for?
She's right though. If anything vtuber girls are even worse since you're simping for ugly girls hiding behind an avatar.

>> No.8182303

>>8178031
Then how come I enjoy watching cute anime girls but not real twitch camwhores?

>> No.8182336

>>8182219
And they keep coping about not being simps. At least the others admit it.

>> No.8182410

>>8181777
>no one in /wah/ knew Ina pre Hololive
Speak for yourself Secondary-kun.

>> No.8182415

>>8182219
You know you can watch without paypigging right?

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>>8178314
MICHERIN-CHAN??????

>> No.8182466

Even if she is right. she doesn't need to tell her fan about it. Even ethot know that shit. Personally her "dad" are far more interesting.

>> No.8182471

>>8178683
Your american genes are acting up

>> No.8182656

>>8182415
>then
simp = sad men investing their whole savings on e-girls under the delusion they will have sex with them one day
>now
simp = watching streamers of the opposite sex

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>>8182656
what if I look like this

>> No.8182753

>>8181777
I never said they knew her pre-Holo
Theres a difference between enjoying the character versus the actress.

Its one thing to say
>This actress was so sexy in the action scene
Compared to
>Can you imagine her showering her naked body after filming that scene?

>> No.8183012

>>8182415
Yeah, and that's what I do. So why should I take offense at Hana btfoing simps?

>> No.8183123

>>8178314
HOT
O
T

>> No.8183438

>>8178314
lol she looks like me except im male

>> No.8183494

>>8181241
Quit seething and serve those chalupas paco

>> No.8183710

>>8178031
Is this why this bitch became irrelevant?

>> No.8183912

>>8178897
Dude its all carbs and protein. You'd struggle to find greens unless you go to conbini for a salad

>> No.8184148

>>8178599
anon your filename reps

>> No.8184180

Does this bbw have any public nudes anywhere?

>> No.8184282

>>8178031
E-girls are shit. Vtubers are cool. Her argument is invalid.

>> No.8184471

>>8178031
Hana is retarded. She doesn't understand vtubing despite being one of the earliest adopters.

>> No.8184565

>>8178031
Don't care, still watch and enjoy her, also her latest collab with lily was wholesome, she is the reason hana considered and started streaming.

>> No.8184578

>>8178683
half her face is missing from view and resolution is too low to see her greasy skin texture

>> No.8184606

>>8178031
Watching latest kson videos, clips,and comments makes me think she is actually very true

>> No.8184632

>>8178031
Regardless of whether she's right, she's an idiot for saying that to thousands of fans who are not into e-girls.

>> No.8184637

>>8184578
imagine dragging your greasy stinky chubby neet gf into the shower and washing her all over

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>>8178031

>> No.8184743

>>8178031
>give your attention to meeeeeeee

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>>8184637
imagine scrubbing between her rolls with your bare hands. Imagine getting all that mold and jam underneath your fingernails. Imagine the smell

>> No.8184832

>>8178031
2d>3d
simple as

>> No.8184866

>>8179494
I got filtered right away. 3dpd = unwatchable.

>> No.8184926

I think bad vtubers, like Hana, are pretty close to e-girls. But good vtubers are closer to actual streamers and content creators.

I like when vtubers do fun collabs, release music, and learn about their audience so they can put out content that people will enjoy. When they don't do that, all you're left with is virtual e-girls like Hana, just a cute face in the corner while they lazily W+M1 through a game.

>> No.8184929

>>8178297
Western feminism is deeply rooted in her identity. She doesn't have an actual sense of humor, just the ability to react to comical situations and words to keep the audience interested. Hana doesn't want to be a vtuber.

>> No.8185076

>>8184926
>I think bad vtubers are pretty close to e-girls. But good vtubers are closer to actual streamers and content creators.
Anon, that's literally the point she was making.
The entire point of the tweet is just "You can't pull 2D>3D with vtubers, because the person behind it is the same idea either way."
The only reason people here care is that she said "e-girl" and they decided on the worst interpretation when she very obviously just meant "female streamers" by that.
If you've ever went "X Vshoujo member is the same as a tiddy streamer on twitch" then congrats, you agree with her but are too autistic to see it.

>> No.8185088

for me its mostly personality, people i relate to are also introverts who are too insecure to be outspoken without some kind of facade, so just happens that they use a 2d avatar to do so. more of a correlation than causation i think.

>> No.8185154

>>8179139
She's got a cute face on that 5'2", 220lb. piece of eastern architecture.

>> No.8185197

>>8185076
You think they use their brain here?

>> No.8185215

>>8185154
shes got that silver ratio

>> No.8185359

>>8185076
Have you tried applying to the Supreme Court yet? They need someone who can reinterpret the 2nd amendment to mean people can't own guns.

>> No.8185391

>>8178191
>parasocial mechanism is completely different
>comes out an e-girl has a boyfriend
>same reaction occurs
DO YU REALLY BALEEB

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>>8178314

>> No.8185431

>>8185076
Take you and your logic somewhere else away from here

>> No.8185445

>>8185197
No, but I can try to explain it to those that might.

>> No.8185462

>>8179139
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
ARCHITECT
PERFECT AMOUNT OF FAT
BEAUTIFULLY SPREAD THROUGHOUT
EROTIC

>> No.8185501

>>8178314
>TFW NO FATASS JAPANESE GF
KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL

>> No.8185514

>>8178314
>no stretch marks
If she stays that size forever it’s wife material

>> No.8185546

>>8178870
Dude, I’m 19.

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>>8178031
>y'all

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>>8178314
tfw you will never have 100 kilos of prime japanese beef bouncing on your cock.

>> No.8185773

>>8178031
E-girls selling face
vtubers selling personality

>> No.8185953

>>8185773
Don't kid yourself.
If people are willing to jack off to drawings over 3d porn why wouldn't they be willing to watch 2d face over 3d?

>> No.8185971

>>8185076
>"You can't pull 2D>3D with vtubers, because the person behind it is the same idea either way."
But you can. Female streamers who use their real names and faces are generally extreme narcissists. The fact vtubers use stage names and avatars means they're at least vaguely humble and therefor better people. This is why 2D eternally blows 3D the fuck out.

>> No.8186086

>>8185971
>he doesn't know about the constant menhera drama among both JP and EN vtubers
Nah, streaming in any capacity is inherently a job that attracts attention whores. Even if people aren't looking at your real face, the fact that people will be fawning over you will ALWAYS attract that kind of person.
It's the same as acting or something: Most of them aren't narcissistic, but you bet most narcissists would jump at the chance to be a famous actor. Same goes for streaming, same goes for vtubing. They'll take what they can get.

>> No.8186091

>>8178314
that's my fetish

>> No.8186170

>>8178031
It's a shallow take depending on what you're going for. If an e-girl weeb cared for the aesthetics to the extent that she would put artistic effort behind voicing an anime girl, then she would no longer be just some e-girl. It discounts the creative work to say otherwise. It would be like saying vloggers are actually just filmmakers.

>> No.8186245

>>8186170
The problem here is there is no definition for e-girl

>> No.8186356

I remember this. Didn't Risu say the same thing later but with about 10 times more tact?

>> No.8186458

>>8179139
architectbros, I will officially join your ranks if one of you reuploads her onlyfans content

>> No.8186471

>>8185953
That's not what meant. E-girls on definition sell their cute looks with personality tossed to the side. They're all young and braindead because of it. Vtubers sell the image of kind girl, who loves her friends, who doesnt get into the politics and is simply there to play video games for (you).

>> No.8186527

>>8186471
Then why are vshoujo so popular?

>> No.8186662

>>8186356
>but with about 10 times more tact
That's the thing. Hana wasn't trying to make a point, she was trying to put down a portion of her audience for virtue points (which becomes more obvious if you look at the followup tweets).
The real problem isn't what she said, but that she used her own followers as stepstool in the most ungrateful and disrespectful way possible. Only masochists and cvcks (same thing really) can enjoy the full Hana experience.

>> No.8186813

>>8186471
>Vtubers sell the image of kind girl, who loves her friends, who doesnt get into the politics and is simply there to play video games for (you)
And the kind of fans that come out of that relationship are called simps.

>> No.8186847

>>8186527
None of them bring politics directly to stream and zen was forced to deleted his tweets because of said no politics in vtubing rule.

>> No.8186861

>>8186458
Me too

>> No.8186865

>>8185076
>she said "e-girl" and they decided on the worst interpretation when she very obviously just meant "female streamers" by that.
Doesn't help people can't decide on what 'e-girl' means, and too many take it to the most derogatory side possible.

>> No.8186882

>>8186086
>Nah, streaming in any capacity is inherently a job that attracts attention whores.
The person playing a vtuber only receives indirect praise. Everybody calling Gura cute is just calling her 2D avatar cute. They aren't saying the girl playing Gura is cute. But all the worst attention whores crave direct praise so vtubing filters them.

>> No.8186989

>>8186882
>They aren't saying the girl playing Gura is cute
If people only gave the avatar surface level praise, sure. But most of the praise people give is based on their personalities.
This is like saying no narcissist would become a VA because people only like their voice, not their face.

>> No.8186995

>>8178314
>>8179139
>mods will delete an image of a perfect fat girl that isn’t naked but a roommate thread with a shit tonne of nijis and holos is approaching 48 hours up
MODERATORS THIS IS THE LAST FUCKING STRAW
IVE FUCKING HAD IT
(you) WILL CLICK MY SUSPICIOUS LINKS I SEND YOU
AND (you) WILL GET YOUR IP LEAKED

>> No.8187062

>>8186086
This is why some people hate Kiara but love Gura. One wants you to look at her, subscribe to her, give money to her, the other just wants to have fun.

>> No.8187088

>>8185076

if she used 'egirls' to mean 'streamers of the female gender' then she fucked up. that's not what it means. if she keeps making errors like this people will start thinking she's stupid

>> No.8187161

>>8187088
People do use it that way though. Either by calling any female facecam streamer an e-girl derisively, or just using the word overly generally.
You can say it's stupid, and I might even agree depending on the day, but she didn't start it.

>> No.8187164

>>8186995
based

>> No.8187272

>>8186527
People like peepeepoopoo and sex jokes.

>> No.8187642

>>8186989
>But most of the praise people give is based on their personalities.
Vtubers don't use their real personalities Anon. They're all fake and filtered to some degree. So praising a vtuber's "personality" doesn't mean the person behind the vtuber feels like their actual personality is being praised. That's why so many roommates are depressed and/or insecure despite their 2D persona getting fawned over.

>> No.8187685

>>8178982
>Coping this hard
Next thing you'll say is that, she's better with 100 views so she can be "herself" compared to having 3k -4k views

>> No.8187804

>>8187642
No most vtubers aren’t well adjusted people hence why a lot of them are depressed menheras.

>> No.8187963

>>8186527
Vshojo are popular?

>> No.8188005

>>8178031
Speedrun of how to lose your vtuber popularity

>> No.8188107

Vtubers can be literally anything while a roastie will always just be a boring old roastie we've seen a billion times before. Why would I care about the most plain and bland boring cunt when I can have a Zombie, a talking humanoid shark or a cosmic horror?

>> No.8188161
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>>8178031
>ya'll

>> No.8188164 [DELETED] 

>>8178031
>The parasocial mechanism is completely different
I like this level of cope

>> No.8188171

>>8187804
>No most vtubers aren’t well adjusted people
Streamers aren't well adjusted people period. But vtubing filters out the worst of the worst. It's okay to admit 2D > 3D, Anon.

>> No.8188253

>>8187642
>he thinks regular streamers use their real personalities any more than vtubers

>> No.8188276

>>8178191
How do you know? Why do you assume all vtubers are just idiots?
We literally know for a fact some have been in the medical industry before.
You're as dumb as those fucking idiots that claim to know everyone on 4chan is a "fuck-up" because "haha le shithole of da internets!!!11".

>> No.8188287

>>8188107
This would make sense if vtubers actually played their characters like an actual story, rather than act as your usual streamers 99.9% of the time.

>> No.8188418

>>8188287
It's not alwyas about the story but they craft a wholer personality around themselves unless you're Vshoujo of course where they're the exact same but with a 2D representation of something irrelevant to what they are.

>> No.8188596

>>8188418
You say that like 95% of vtubers don't drop their kayfabe 2 months in.
I mean hell, you mention Vshoujo when Melody is EXCEPTIONALLY committed to her "AI that got corrupted by porn" bit. From what I've heard even off stream she's still in character enough that she says stuff like "I need to download some food"

>> No.8188609

I'm here for the technology and entertainment. I will unironically unsubscribe from GFE shit which is why I unsubbed from HoloEN.

>> No.8188724

>>8178031
Clearly, some are.

>> No.8189134

>>8188596
Nice made up numbers and praising someone doing the absolute bare minimum.

>> No.8189634

>>8178031
Even if she's right, isn't that taking a dump on a big portion of her fanbase? I mean, pretty based, but that's a weird decision to make regardless

>> No.8189744

>>8189634
Nah fuck'em, if anything these losers like being berated like this.

>> No.8189894

>>8189634
IDs are always like this. It's the same as them going "Stop complaining I'm not speaking Indonesian enough, learn English or wait until I do an ID stream" It's based and I wish more English chuubas would put their foot down like that.

>> No.8190014

>>8189894
if they did /vt/ would be calling them whores and stacys and on a going full-on meltdown over western femoids.

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>>8178031

>> No.8190539

We're just here creating completely arbitrary definitions of e-girl when the only actual sticking point is "female streamer/content creator" which is why Hana's right and based.

Fuck, even /vt/'s definition for vtuber is arbitrary besides what it actually is.
Using what Hololive tells you it is as what vtubing entails as a whole is like using McDonalds to define dining as a whole.

>> No.8190596

>>8190539
why are nijifags like this

>> No.8191291

>>8184723
"It's just a prank bro"

>> No.8191375

>>8189894
>It's based and I wish more English chuubas would put their foot down like that.
I wish they would finally enact sharia law so I don't hear anymore shitty opinions. Ollie and Moona can be granted asylum though.

>> No.8191555

>>8189894
>I wish more English chuubas would put their foot down like that.
I wish they would do that too, then the abomination that is the English vtubers will finally become irrelevants again. 99% of them truly are e-girls using anime avatars and aren't entertaining at all. English chuubas will just be admitting what they truly are by saying this kind of thing.

>> No.8192144

>>8191375
Funny, when Ollie telling off her comments was the exact ID example I was thinking of.

>> No.8192569

>>8184723
The absolute state

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>>8184723
>>8191291
>>8192569
Are you niggers really too dumb to look up context for things. For all you know the tweet wasn't even real in the first place.
Like jesus, it wasn't "stop being mad at me" it was "the first tweet was obviously a joke, please stop replying seriously"

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>>8178031
not really? E-girls main pull is being an attractive person who can lean into a cultural sphere of internet culture. This requires them to be physically attractive, up to date with current meme culture, and maybe be able to cosplay.

Vtubers main pull varies a lot from chuuba to chuuba, but as a generalization the most successful vtubers (Pekora, Gura, Ironmouse, Kuzuha, Kizuna) got big by being larger than life comedic characters. This requires a completely different set of talents. Namely being able to maintain a likeable kayfabe over long spans of time. In this way I think a better comparison would be pro wrestling.

>> No.8193665

>>8193431
>a better comparison would be pro wrestling.
Not really, because a lot of promotions keep a shitty no-charisma wrestler around because they look good and manage to push merc--Oh wait, it's just like prowrestling.

>> No.8194480

She's not wrong but why did she say it? Doesn't she realize she brings hate on herself and her company by saying shit like this? Coulda kept it on her roommate's twitter

>> No.8194541

>>8193344
Fuck the context.

>> No.8194586

>>8194480
No one cared outside here.

>> No.8194720

>>8179139
Im gonna furiously beat off while watching this girls vids and listening to Okayu ASMR

>> No.8194959

>>8193665
Yo dayo-eh?!

>> No.8195030

>>8178031
No. I've already thought about this a lot. V-tubers are virtual wrestlers, you simply can not change my mind on this

>> No.8195622

>>8195030
Wrestlers are athletic e-girls

>> No.8195921

>>8178191
https://twitter.com/pinkyweb_tw/status/1151576670123380736
lmao, this is you oshi behind the scene btw

>> No.8197381

>>8195622
>athletic
When are we going back to the time where vtubers are just random drunks picked up from a shitty bar, to take bumps for $50.

>> No.8197505

>>8195921
this is why I don't watch Ollie.
schizos can rratpost all they want but when you hear suspicious moaning sounds, that's when you bail and unsubscribe.

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>>8178031
This is braindamage and the people who say “she’s right” are hard confirmed to be in parasocial relationships with vtubers. I watch pekora and nene because they make me smile and laugh, just like any other content creator. I and 99.5% of all vtuber fans dont send chuubas money to get our dicks wet. Anyone that agrees with that woman is mentally unwell, and should take a break from watching chuubas.

>> No.8197655

>>8179139
Who is this she cute, give me a hint

>> No.8197750

>>8197655
Just a streamer who does lewd camstream sometimes
She's a nobody but she's cute

>> No.8198037

>>8180514
>Thing like vtubers rarely mentioning their romantic/sexual life matters a lot
Matsuri literally exists

>> No.8198190

>>8179494
You don't think it is because they liked Coco and still wanted to support her?

>> No.8198269

>niji
>SEA
Found your problem buddy.

>> No.8198294

>>8198190
Anon, people that agree with Hana on this watch vtubers to pretend they are in a relationship/get their dicks hard. Dont communicate with filth

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