/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

So its pretty much confirmed all the famous jp artist are under exclusive contract with Cover, this explain why the most high profile artist in Nijis so far are Korean & Chinese

[Anonymous No.]

rent free

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>>8033157
Now explain why the nijiEN designs are so much better

[Anonymous No.]

Of course they do, why work with #2 when you can do it for #1

[Anonymous No.]

yeah at least we won't experience something like iRys

[Anonymous No.]

>>8033157
>redjuice is a good artis-

[Anonymous No.]

>>8033439
But they aren't falseflagger.

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>>8033507
Rent free

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>>8033157
they are just scamming cover lol

[Anonymous No.]

>exclusive
But A lot of them share artists I mean if you’re gonna make bait at least make it make sense.
Also inbf they’re all rigged by Umiushi.

[Anonymous No.]

I would just pay Pochi to make 5 models.

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>>8033520

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>>8034276
Fuck no

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>>8034276
only wada arco and rrat are good

[Anonymous No.]

>>8034276
Come back with the numbers after their debut and then we'll talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8033157
I want to paizuri Time

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>>8034276
Soul vs soulless

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>>8034276
Personally I don’t think either are bad but the bottom can be considered over designed.

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>>8034276
love wada titties
love pikazo rrat
left and right are boring
brown is ugly (and i'm mad, brown is the best color for anime girls)

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>>8034276
that doesn't even include the gen 3 witch girl which is better than all of those.

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>>8034276
The only decent here is Pomu and Rosemi for NijiEn. EN2 has Chaos, Civ and Nature for me. People are loving the brown girl though. The 2D rig looks good on her as well. People seem to like the blue girl because of their designer alone.

Can you guys give a rundown who the EN2 designers? I have no idea who they are

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>>8034361
If we relied on numbers to appraise quality... I don't really need to bring up examples.
A single glance is all you need.

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>>8034694
Time girl is the Fate/Extra artist
Chaos is the Kaguya Luna artist
I don't care enough about the rest to look them up.

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>>8034225
Preach, brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8033157
HAIR VENTS
>HAIR VENTS
HAIR VENTS
>HAIR VENTS
HAIR VENTS
>HAIR VENTS
HAIR VENTS
>HAIR VENTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>8034694
Nature is Girly Air Force's illustrator
Space is Pako
Chaos is Kaguya Luna's artist
Time is Fate/Extra's artist
Civilization is Wandering Witch's illustrator

[Anonymous No.]

>>8035097
>>8034852
Thanks dudes

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>>8034276
Man, I guess NijiEN is here to stay, if holoEN 2 can't kill nijiEN this time for good then when the witch comes, everything is over for holoEN

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>>8035097
Shame Pako tuber dont really scream his style

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>>8035097
Ah, so that's why Nature is easily the best.

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>>8035605
She's just going to be another Petra anon. Niji clearly is giving the good designs to their worst talent.

[Anonymous No.]

I actually know the artists behind NijiEN more than HoloEN ones. And they are japanese.

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>>8033157
God. How can a design be so perfect?

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>>8035097
Is Pako known for anything?

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>>8037507
Then you're in the minority since 3 out of 5 of HoloEN2's artists are extremely popular, like professional artist-tier.

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>>8037676
12 FGO servants and a lot of OG NPCs, like Karna, Nobu, Arjuna..etc. Mostly known for dude designs tho.
https://twitter.com/pakosun
Generally treated like a God by his peers.

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>>8034276
HoloEN just feels so homogenized. All of them feel straight out of gacha (it's actually the case for a couple) and they all wear the same type of fanservicey get-up despite the fact you won't see most of the design most of the time. A design like Selen's would've never gotten approved by Cover. It's amazing how much of a downgrade this is from the first gen.

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>>8034361
Holo could hire literally anyone who isn't physically unable to draw, come out with the worst design imaginable, and still pull better numbers simply due to brand strength.

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>>8033157
I don't see Takeuchi

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>>8034276
DAMN ELIRA GOT SOME BIG ASS HANDS

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>>8038113
it's to get to your prostate better

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>>8033507
I mean, he unironically is and is famous as fuck. IRyS is really cute if you watch her and the derpy design works with her clumsy personality.

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>>8034276
How tall are the new HoloEN girls?

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>>8037726
>like professional artist-tier
anon... everyone they get is a professional artist...

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>>8038113
They gotta be in order to wrap her finger around my monster throbbing turbo nigger cock

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>>8037850
>Arjuna
I don't know how he fucked up the brown girl so bad then. Clearly he knows how to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>HoloFGO
Thanks Ina you fucking bitch

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>>8039042
His female designs are weak, Nobu wasn't his design originally and Chacha is pretty unremarkable.

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>>8034361
>Come back with the numbers after their debut and then we'll talk.

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>>8034276
Nijis: Forgettable
Holos: Overdesigned eye vomit, except for #4 and 5

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>>8033157
>So its pretty much confirmed all the famous jp artist are under exclusive contract with Cover
Where? Did I miss a tweet or something? Seems dumb to sign an artist to an exclusive contract.

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>>8039242
You know what, I take it back, #4 is also eye vomit.

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>>8034361
that's not nice to say to our niji friends...

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>>8039357
He's just a ret. Doesn't even realize that there is artists that made character designs for holos and nijis

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>>8034361
>Come back with the numbers after their debut and then we'll talk.

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>>8039564
Surely we don't have anons that are that stupid right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8039673
>holobronies
>not stupid
impossible

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>>8033157
Holy fuck she's actually cute. Wada is the only artist that delivered. I'm about to turn gosling just from design alone

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>>8034361
>>8039626
oof

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>>8033157
As usual fanarts will save Wada design from his horrible anatomies

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>>8037918
They really gotta stop hiring gacha artists if they don't want their entire roster of girls to look like cheap and generic.

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>>8040630
>Wada
>his

[Anonymous No.]

>>8034276
god the dragons are so hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>8033157
Some of their korean artists are based tho...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8043162
Thank you Nagu for giving us a fucking FGO gen

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>>8034361
>BUT THE NUMBERS
holocope

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>>8034361
>Come back with the numbers after their debut and then we'll talk.

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>>8042429
kimoi

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>>8034361
It's kinda sad that Holofags can't even form their own opinions anymore. At least back then, they could make some funny or amusing arguments and jokes if they were creative enough. Now it's just the same ad populum fallacy again and again, and it's just so boring.

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>>8035097
Nigger, that looks nothing like Pako, are you for real?

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>>8033157
Niji's artists never fucked up as hard as redjuice, so this isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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>>8044580
That's the weird part. It IS Pako and yet it manages to look nothing like his art.

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>>8044580
same with Huke and Kiara really.

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>>8039220
>>8039626
>>8043411
>>8044187
>>8043347
I fail to see your points. The art could be absolute shit and the rigging non-existent. As long as there's a hint of personality the brand power pushes the success. That is where HololEN succeeds and NijiEN fails. /vt/ is not the majority. It is the minority. Deal with it.

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>>8044580
>>8044956
So we should blame the chuuba for giving fucked up feedback?

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>>8034276
NijiEN deosnt have needless asymmetry. Anything as metrical has a point

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>>8035605
I dunno, I am not a Ina fag but I know that Ina is better than that overly designed witch bitch

Even Shion is better than her in the same catagory

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>>8042429
That one is a fucking clone and you know it

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>>8045027
I'd put more blame on Cover. I doubt the chuuba has more control than them, and they might think it's not their place to say "this looks kind of fucked, change it", while for Cover that absolutely IS their place.

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>>8033157
Where the rest of her skirt? Why couldnt staff make up their mind, if they didn't want to give her a skirt hey should've went with a leotard

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>>8045022
So Holobronies are mindless brand NPC? I see. Got it.

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>>8045022
>The art could be absolute shit and the rigging non-existent.
Why are you admitting this? At least TRY to defend your chuuba. Saying "it's shit, but I'll eat it anyway", just makes you look like a pathetic braindead worm with a weak mind and no thoughts of your own.

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>>8045022
>As long as there's a hint of personality the brand power pushes the success
You're not wrong but in HoloENs case the brand has far more weight than their personality. That's a whole other issue they have.

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>>8045022
>i love eating shit
Alright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8038551
delusional

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>>8033157
>pic related was uploaded little over 10 minutes after the debut
did Kronii draw this?

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>>8047959
That would be kind of hilarious. Imagine if Nagu uploaded Ina art super early on just because she could.

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>>8047959
There are other clues on her Twitter feed that Katzchen may in fact be Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh shit what was she thinking? Is she going for the any % graduation speedrun. Anyways if true it will be good to have another protier arist beside Ina maybe they can do drawing colabs.

Dug through her twitter some and found loads of holo en art retweets and pic related so if her birthday turns out to be aug 8 its pretty much confirmed its her.

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>>8048698
>Oh shit what was she thinking? Is she going for the any % graduation speedrun.
They aren't going to graduate someone just for having a known roommate. Mori put a fucking dice sound at the end of her first song.

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>>8033157
Why is no one talking about how she literally identifies as a helicopter. Funniest thing I've seen all day.

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>>8048698
What who?

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>>8035605
Petra had like the best design.
Selen has now surpassed her in subs despite Petra's head start.

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>>8048698
Also her retweets that aren't hololive related are mostly girls with big booba. And not like normal big like really fucking big. I'm now 99% convinced.
>>8048805
I was being dramatic for comedic purpose I realize she might get a slap on the wrist at most.
>>8049008
name is literally in the op and screenshots my dude

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>>8049216
>name is literally in the op and screenshots my dude
No, what i meant was is katzch someone on EN 2? Like, how the fuck do you guys know this already. There's also speculation about namgoreng.

[Anonymous No.]

She's not. She just has insider info. Kronii isn't kätzchen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8049327
It's all baseless speculation. Wait until their debut streams when we get their voices and interests and then maybe people will be able to dig up something concrete.

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>>8049327
She put out fullly rendered art of her within like 10 minutes and made time puns tweets. She's definitely intentionally hinting at it even if it's not actually her.

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>>8035605
Gura Killer rumao

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>>8047959
So they possibly got two chuuba artists with Namie being the other one since she did the promo art?

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>>8044790
She doesn't have unique Pako shading

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>>8049516
Isn't it a little bit absurd that someone with a following of 180k on twitter move to becoming a chuuba?

[Anonymous No.]

Katchen doesn't have streaming experience. She's probably Kronii's friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8033157
>her right thigh

[Anonymous No.]

What's the probability that Katchen saw the debut and drew that fanart within 10mins?

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>>8049886
Nagu...

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>>8049886
Ina Ina Ina...

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>>8049995
Did ALL five EN1 have prior streaming experience?
>>8049790
If she's another one of the holos, then most of this gen seems to be more of an art-swap between FATE artists. Still we have to wait for the debuts for anything concrete or get the same anons that correctly predicted who the NijiEN streamers would be. I'm interested in Sana, but those ESL tweets...

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>>8049886
Ina.......

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>>8050162
I don't recall Mori's roommate being a streamer, no

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>>8050091
Incredibly low IMO and for all the memes that people will draw a pokemon design quickly I have never seen something that detailed so quickly.

Like the only "fanart" (more like official art) that comes that detailed is from the original gacha artists themselves whenever a design gets revealed.

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>>8034361

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>>8050091
0%

Nobody can draw much less color and shade that fast, a drawing like the OP takes hours to complete.

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>>8033157
>So its pretty much confirmed all the famous jp artist are under exclusive contract with Cover
Kamioka: Eh i work for both
Nagishiro: Eh i work for both as well
Oshio: Why are we all work for both??
Fukahire: I heard we have exclusive contract with cover according to vt?
Komeshiro:ogey
Shiratamako:ogey
Yasumo:ogey

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>>8050522
Go back to /jp/, you don't understand
Clearly only those who has exclusive contract with cover are considered FAMOUS JP ARTIST

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>>8048698
>>8048346
God I really hope that’s not the Wada Arco holo. Really wished for another Ina/IRyS kind of vibe and from what I’ve seen in her twitter she’s not like that……

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>>8034276
They all suck. I thought the same about Gen5. I hated them all, especially Polka's design. But as soon as I heard her voice, it fit.

What matters the most is the personality of the Vtuber and their ability to be entertaining. 2nd is the design. We won't know which are good of this generation till we see them stream. But honestly they all suck.

I only like blue and brown council members

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>>8051045
Why not? From what I have seen she strikes me as an unashamed artist that embraces booba. Contrast to Ina who acts prude on stream because she thinks she's on a kid's channel.

[Anonymous No.]

She's not Kronii...
It's too obvious of a bait. You're just giving her attention. The Holo Myth girls had video or streaming related content. This artist only draws R18 and fanart.

Namgoreng is more plausible because she is Nagu's friend. She drew the art in the video. She streamed a few times on Twitch and she is very energetic. Holo Gen 2 won't have 2 artists in one gen.

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>>8050284
based Toshiaki

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>>8050522
Who can you consider famous artist tho?

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>>8048346
Is that a German name? Are we gonna get another stupid copy of the chicken who pushes her lame country on everyone?

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>>8049886
UI...

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>>8051314
Namie is Sana. Too much connection for that

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>>8051442
only those who has exclusive contract with cover obviously
if they exist

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>>8037918
>HoloEN just feels so homogenized. All of them feel straight out of gacha
Isn't this exactly what people were saying about LazuLight? Just give it some time to get used to the designs. I wasn't a fan of Pomu and Finana's designs at first but now I appreciate them and they feel perfect for their personalities even if they aren't the best designs out there.

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>>8051045
I want blue Nero but unironically
if it's not a girl I can believe would wrestle lions with her tits out I don't even want to see her.

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>>8049818
Yeah, well redjuice gave their "unique shading", and look how that went. At least Pako understands somethings don't work for vtuber/l2d

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>>8035605
Assuming this design will even debut in the future

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>>8033439
This. For all the faults that gooks and chinks have... they make pretty damn good anime character designs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8049886
oui oui baguette...

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>>8050253
She did stream sometimes, but she isn't a streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8049331
Said Kronii as she nervously deflected instead of sleeping.

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>>8047959
nah i don't think so
Someone who have connection ? definitely

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>>8051789
I sure hope so!

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>>8048698
What the fuck are you retards talking about, she's talking about vtuber BIRTHDAY, not debut day or teaser release day or whatever. Neither of them fits by the way, because international cat day is Aug 8, the day she tweeted it. And we don't even know Council birthdays yet. I can understand people willing to create drama from thin air sometimes out of boredom, but this is just pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

we'll get
>namie the aussie
>katzchen the german
>kyo the russian

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>>8033507
Art is gorgeous. Rigging that art was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8060495
And Shacimu(?)

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>>8048805
Kiara basically shared her roommates patreon on twitter. Mori's dice is nothing compared to what shitbird did

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>>8034276
>No more simple designs like Mori and Gura
>All EN2 overdesigned eye clutter(except maybe the last one)

NijiEN looks way better and I don't watch them. One of them HoloEN2 has a fucking helicopter hat ffs.

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>>8061759
Elira and Selen are bland designs. They only look good in fanart. Pomu is generic. Rosemi and the penguin are good. EN1 all had designs that are just overdrawn as well. Mix matched hat, tentacles that was never used, scythe that you never see. Gura is plane but since she is cunny it's fine. Ame has the best balance. EN2 is the same but just like EN1 their cosmetics are probably removable as well. Base design which is the face and upper body which you will always only see are what is important. They all look great just with that. Their casual 2D will probably look great.

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>>8034276
The niji ones look unironically better, too bad the VAs are whores like the rest of niji.

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>>8062134
>VAs are whores
based, I'm now watching NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>8045433
Don't deny that you are as mindless in being contrarian as those who put literally everything coming from a brand on a pedestal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8062134
All women are whores including your oshis. Especially your oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8062385
Better than being brand NPC. Liking Hololive is fine. But calling other shit and think Hololive is the only quality and talented because they have big numbers is fucking disgusting. Cover don't deserve the success they get. They are legit horrible company who have done lot of fucked up. Covering sexual harassment, leaving their talent on mercy of stalker, bending to seisofag, Holocaust aka massive VOD purge, whole Taiwan scandal, shitty 3D and rigs, probably more. And people still worship them. If they didn't strike gold with algorithm and chink and Seaniggers clippers they would go down under just like Upd8.