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>>7661471

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ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

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>>7667672
She mainly plays extremely long hours of JRPGs, and usually does an SC reading after most streams pulling avg CCV down further

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>>7671154
>>7670958
The YT viewer count changes impacted people with a mostly domestic JP audience less. You could see this pretty clearly within Hololive - it had a much smaller relative impact on Flare than Korone for example.

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>>7671685
>impacted people with a mostly domestic JP audience less.
Before I ever entertain the idea answer me this: if I would show the relative drop for at very least five (5) JP members was similar to the EN branch would you abandon that idea?

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>>7671685
towa is majority eop yet she didnt suffer any drops

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>Ayame cover at 200k already
Did she sell her soul or something?

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>>7671777
>>7671802
It's obviously not the only factor (Towa didn't really drop, and Lamy and Mito got hit pretty hard) but in general the ones with more overseas viewers seemed to see more of an effect.

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>>7671534
Damn Kuzuha!

Also, Shion's Minecraft solo - 33,696 peak

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>>7671802
>majority eop
She has a large eop base but to say majority eop is a bit much. her chat is max 30% english , and that's with all her romanji memes. Not fool-proof numbers, but the only numbers we have.
https://twitter.com/hololyzer

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>>7671802
Towa had a pretty massive influx of JPs in the last 9 months, mostly because of the Apex tournaments but still,
>>7672059
the main expected culprits are 'adblock, region, tabbing out' which EoP are presumed to do more.

Until we actually test it out with some accounts these are just speculation based on possibly erroneous observations.

About observations, that time Oga posted a poll and out of his 2.3k live viewers, 2.7k people somehow voted within 5 minutes... for a jp poll, where 1/2 of his audience is En...when poll participation is usually 40%

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>>7671534
How the fuck did aqua score so high?

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>>7672236
Anniversary totsu.

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>>7672156
we are talking about december 2020

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>>7672236
Akukin is SSR as far as Holo JP Micra server is concerned

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>>7672236
Today is her 3 year anniversary. it was a call in stream too, they do good numbers.

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>>7671777
If you handpicked 5 with similar %s while hiding the other 30 who got much less of a fall you wouldn't be proving anything, anonchama

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>>7672220
If you look at Towa's VOD views you can see that she started gaining a lot more on average at around the time of the drop so she definitely did incline.
I also don't think we have any recent demographic data for her, the data in the past that I've seen for her is about a year old now and was based on superchats.
It makes more sense that the drop would be based on something that the viewer is doing rather than Youtube just throwing out a set percentage of views.
While not a perfect representation of how many viewers are lost, the graphs can probably at least give a hint when a stream is heavily affected.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/lezMEBmDB_M
This is from a recent Towa minecraft stream. There is a little bit of oddness in the graph but not too much.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/0AI7J0uxKv0
Compare it to this recent Ame stream that had similar numbers. You can very clearly see those weird plateau shapes on the graph.
Those plateaus are a common standout feature in all EN streams. JPs have them in varying degrees with Korone having similar looking graphs to EN at times.
As a general rule though, those plateaus are nowhere near as obvious in JP streams as they are in EN.

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here are the numbers of the november-december live numbers fall due to the new spamviews filter/bug:
JP: 29%
EN: 42%

Branch Streamer Nov 2020 Dec 2020 %
JP Pekora 46101 35496 -23%
JP Marine 27032 23025 -15%
JP Aqua 23692 21673 -9%
EN Gura 46006 26101 -43%
JP Miko 23807 14562 -39%
JP Haachama 14605 10207 -30%
JP Ayame 22959 16160 -30%
JP Korone 24632 15411 -37%
JP Shion 22819 13901 -39%
JP Subaru 14530 10707 -26%
JP Suisei 14212 9178 -35%
JP Rushia 18265 13394 -27%
JP Botan 12666 10673 -16%
JP Okayu 10738 10618 -1%
EN Ina 20493 12959 -37%
EN Mori 16939 10345 -39%
JP Kanata 10244 7321 -29%
EN Watson 21679 10880 -50%
JP Fubuki 15315 9888 -35%
JP Watame 15808 9322 -41%
JP Mio 12325 5648 -54%
JP Noel 12764 9085 -29%
JP Lamy 7082 6356 -10%
JP Polka 9699 5505 -43%
JP Flare 11159 6531 -41%
JP Nene 10531 6512 -38%
JP Coco 11659 8439 -28%
EN Kiara 13275 8692 -35%
JP Azki 5953 1815 -70%
JP Luna 5581 4614 -17%
JP Sora 6349 3011 -53%
JP Towa 6844 5910 -14%
JP Matsuri 5569 4350 -22%
JP Choco 4035 3057 -24%
JP Akirose 5565 3380 -39%
ID Moona 3228 4167 29%
ID Ollie 3435
JP Roboco 4036 2442 -39%
ID Reine 3076
JP Mel 3146 4548 45%
ID Iofi 1864 1305 -30%
ID Risu 2064 1590 -23%
ID Anya 1909

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>>7673024
JP: -29%
EN: -42%
are negative, to make it clear

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you know they simply nuked bots right

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>>7673024
Is this mean or median?

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>>7673060
Yeah, 43% of Sora audience and 70% of AZKi was bots for some reason

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>>7673065
I think it is median, according to the picture title, source was someone from jp boards. I used this picture attached.

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>>7673060
We've heard from Kiara that she had more votes in a 5-minute poll on a member stream than the dashboard said she had viewers. Are bots paying for membership and voting in polls now?

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>>7673152
>>7672220 misremembered how short the poll was
Same thing happened live for Oga, 12:01 to 15:36 the vote lasted.
2739 votes, when there were just under 2400 viewers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_iRI9mA0Ss

It was his big announcement video, you don't just show up to vote in some poll you don't understand and dip within 3 minutes anyway, much less for these.

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>>7672844
There is chat data obviously not perfect but it's there

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>>7673425
why do holobronies type in language streamer doesnt understand?

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Is Fubuki insomniac or something? Started streaming 5:30AM

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>>7673102
Mio is a super odd case that I wonder what's going on with.
Looking at her graphs, There's a huge variety in how much they seem to be affected.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/9vif97naFK0
This one looks much closer to an EN graph than a JP graph.
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/mio
On the other hand this one looks normal. I wonder what her stream demographic are.

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>>7673644
>Mio is a super odd case
Only because you have a conclusion beforehand and is trying to find evidence to corroborate it

Here is you
>it affects EN more
>weird, Mio isn’t EN but she’s being affected as if she were
>I wonder if her audience is EN-like

Here is where you should be
>it affects EN more
>weird, Mio isn’t EN but she’s being affected as if she were
>maybe my theory isn’t right and it doesn’t affect EN more

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>>7673745
ENs without exception always have very obvious plateaus on their graphs. This isn't the case for JPs as theirs vary by stream and streamer.
Shouldn't this give more credibility to the theory that it's something that EN viewers are more likely to do?

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Wow I should have found my way in to these threads earlier, this shits right up my alley. I'm really interested in understanding English speaking fan demographics so if anyone can spoonfeed me what sites and data will get me up to speed that would be really cool. Otherwise I'll just lurk.

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>>7673644
>>7673745
The one they linked is the only recent Mio stream I could find that shows that 'sawtooth' pattern, and it's a special occasion singing stream that I assume brought in a lot of tourists. Unfortunately holostats didn't record views for her 777777-subs stream.
Incidentally, that 'sawtooth' pattern is extremely common on Korone's game streams, but not common at all on her zatsudans.

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>>7673859
You’re still reaching, no matter how may counter examples you are presented with you never seem to consider other alternatives.
Is there even ANY evidence that could convince you otherwise?
What would be the one public available data that could dissuade you from believing in that theory?
Without being “falsifiable” you don’t even have a theory, just a “dogma”. What could possibly convince you to the contrary?

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Man the views on our favorite void priestess' original song have taken off like crazy! Thank you to both the dedicated takos and other lovely folks that gave her a chance. I dunno if we can see her break 1M by the time she returns from her well-earned break, but it's worth a try, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZdLXELdF9Q

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>>7673948
This thread is often just hundreds of posts from the same 20 IPs posting falseflagging tribalist bait, unfortunately.
https://holo.poi.cat/ has the highest resolution viewer data, but only covers Hololive. The site lots of people used to use (vnuma) was permanently shut down. There's also https://playboard.co/en/ for stuff like superchat data.

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>>7673948
>I'm really interested in understanding English speaking fan demographics so if anyone can spoonfeed me what sites and data will get me up to speed that would be really cool.
Here anon: https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/index.html

Thank me by posting a cute pic of your oshi

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>>7673948
>>7674094
Also see >>7671543

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>>7674087
>This thread is often just hundreds of posts from the same 20 IPs posting falseflagging tribalist bait
And midgets. Don’t forget the midgets

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>>7673948
The only stats we have access to concerning EN fan demographics is that chat searching site anon just linked. Also, you've entered the thread during a rare calm time.
Otherwise, you have to wait for a vtuber to show their personal stats and if it's a Holo, you're out of luck, because that is never happening again.

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>>7673966
I don't think I'm reaching at all. Those graphs only started to have those plateaus when Youtube made the change so it can be assumed that they are connected.
The EN streamers always have very obvious plateaus on their graphs while JP streamers do not.
Looking through the graphs will also show you that the JP streams where the plateaus are more apparent are more likely to have non Japanese viewers.
What reason is there to believe that it isn't the case that EN viewers are more likely to be dropped?

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>>7674229
>What reason is there to believe that it isn't the case that EN viewers are more likely to be dropped?
Because it lacks evidence.

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>>7673644
Mio played a lot of debuff games in December. Like, 10-12 of her streams for the month were debuff streams.

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>>7674087
>>7674094
>>7674136
>>7674172
VTubers caught my eye because I have a few friends that I make fun of who watch them. I'm more interested in number stuff and fan demographics. I don't really watch any VTubers or have an oshi but I think Rosemi has a cute design. Thanks for the help and hopefully I'll be able to help contribute meaningful analysis to the thread eventually.

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>>7674277
>says it lacks evidence
>graphs and data says otherwise

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>>7674277
It doesn't, there has been plenty of evidence shown already that it is more likely to affect EN streams..
The Minecraft festival also supports my theory. Going off of live views and time streamed Pekora should have had many more total views than Gura because she had both more live views and time streamed.
This wasn't the case though as Gura constantly had more total views.
There has to be some reason why the views are getting dropped because it's very unlikely the algorithm is just randomly tossing live views without cause.
EN streams show a consistent pattern that isn't as consistent or apparent anywhere else. It would be ridiculous to overlook this fact when considering the cause.

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>>7674662
The pattern is actually consistent in one other place: Korone playing video games. Her FF9 and Spongebob streams all show that weird sawtooth pattern, while the non-game streams in between don't.

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>>7674424
The usual discussion in this thread is showing the top live viewers of the day, the top superchats of the week, and predicting. There's 1 or 2 anons who make graphs and charts for Hololive and Nijisanji. Then there's speculation about how Youtube live view counting works. Actually almost all of this thread is speculation since Youtube doesn't show their hand numbers wise. You won't find the statistic numberfag analysis of your dreams here other than "wow she got big numbers today"

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waht the fuck is going on with kuzuha
someone stop him

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>>7673644
Mio can either do a lot of morning solos, or a bunch of high-tier collabs, or a mix of those. Depends of the month,.

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>>7675301
He was playing Powerpro. It was the last day to play the game and train your team in preparation for the tournament.

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>>7675412
How much did his Powapro stream average increase over last year (if he did it) I wonder? Any data on how the Niji baseball streams in have done on average/median compared to last year?

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>>7675301
>>7675503

He also had a massive incline of viewers thanks to that apex collab, I wonder how he’ll fare without playing power pro in the meantime

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>>7675544
her pokemon unite collab wasnt that differnt from his last one. his next apex might get boosted tough.

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>>7675503
Had a hell of a month joining CR cup, Collab with Hikakin, Collab with a male idol, chronoir ads on a popular area and one of the most popular livers on niji in this year's baseball event is playing. So you can easily imagine the numbers. In previous month's, he was around 20-27k on Apex, pretty standard numbers for him but soon he's gonna get that 1M buff and whole lot of supas probably this week or next week if they decide to pair it with another 3D concert.

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>>7675301
To be more specific, he was getting very lucky and kept winning these very close games that was filled with tension. Koshien buffed Kuzuha is a monster, but he was buffed even more than usual.

>>7675544
He got a massive increase in subs, but until he plays Apex again, we don't know if his CCV inclined. His pokemon unite numbers yesterday were similar to before his big collabs.

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On one of Miko's latest streams she talked about a possible interview/podcast/collab with Ned Luke, the VA for Michael from GTA V. What kind of numbers would this bring if it ends up happening?

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>that stream title
>that thumbnail
Ame really doesn't care about numbers lol

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>>7675857
To add to this, I'll be predicting that he'll at least get 130-180k based on Coco's grad superchat. Coco had like 180k from yen currency, 50k from NT currency, 33k on US currency etc. 100k from yen and 25k NT is the minimum I'll give to him since his fans are mostly JP. Fuwa's 3D earned 144k.

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>>7675968
she is near her break so she is slowing down.

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Yay for Towa. I'm so proud of her.

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>>7675503
He didn't do it last year.
The coaches who returned this year are Shiina and Deron.
Last year coaches were Shiina, Deron, Kenmochi, Yashikizu, and Lize.

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>>7675503
He wasn’t a coach last year

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>>7676014
Also Maimoto, it was a 6 team affair

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>>7675928
Miko can't even speak enough english to collab with HoloEN yet. I doubt this collab could happen.

>>7675987
I don't think Kuzuha has done a 3D live in a long while so numbers and SC wise, it'll be insane if he does do one. 120k+ viewers and more SC money than Fuwa for sure, but I can't predict his peaks. They can be anything.

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>>7675968
Isnt that how kuzuha thumbnail all of his stream? Ame can play any games too since its misleading thumbnail

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>>7676188
>Miko can't even speak enough english to collab with HoloEN yet. I doubt this collab could happen.
Yeah, she'd need someone like IRyS or Kiara to be there for it to work.

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>>7676244
Its not misleading thumbnail*

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>>7676244
Kuzuha at least has a stream title. A generic thumbnail is also better than a troll one lol.

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>>7676244
Kuzuha writes down the title of what he's doing even when using his red thumbnail. But I don't see what the problem is with Ame. Seems like something that would make her fans want to click.

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>>7676013
Towa getting 67k is kind of a miracle, could've been even higher if Haachama wasn't such a dumbass.

Not sure if it's individual incline, Hololive's incline, the promise of guests, or summer hype, but Towa and Flare both massively outperformed their previous 3D lives.

Towa Anniversary Live (32k): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/TjhOZn1vNW4
Towa Birthday stream (67k): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/NuOJhtBC7R4

Flare Birthday Live (39k): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/_rJhAn6ZPuU
Flare Anniversary Live (60k): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/ZMlPAsIJslA

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>>7676013
Those were actually pretty bad numbers if you consider only the all-star cast she put together. Goes to show how important advertising is.

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>>7676188
I imagine she would bring a translator along.

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>>7676713
she cant catch a break....

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>>7676660
>>7676713
The duality of numberfagging

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>>7676838
It's not bad though, it's good numbers.

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>>7676660
The hako-oshi number is growing since 2020.
EN1 is slowing adapting to the idol culture.
It will be interesting to see what EN2 would bring the scene.

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>>7676854
I said if you consider "only" the cast. There's a bunch of other factors, like the host channel itself or Haachama taking a sizable chunk of potential viewers, not to mention >>7676838.

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>>7676713
You're overestimating Towa's popularity. Having lots of guests helps, but it won't help someone like Mel or even Matsuri get massive 100k+ numbers.

Towa's 3D debut (usually a vtuber's most watched stream after their debut) was only 68k peak, when Coco and Kanata got 100k. She almost beat it with an anniversary live.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/UlemRwXYWHg

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>>7676975
What do you mean not to mention that? Kuzuha watchers are not watching Towa.

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>>7677032
Somebody posted twitter statistics the other day showing that niji and holo as a whole have about a 50% intersection of followers on twitters no matter from which side you consider. Big events that draw the fanbase as a whole sure as hell influence each other.

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>>7676838
Kuzuha at only 11k? Is this the fastest crash in viewers ever from the other day. Proof that it was mainly tourists tuning in to watch him. What a terrible performance.

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>>7677280
That was from last year anon where he wasn’t a captain

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>>7676838
11k for Kuzuha? I never want to hear anybody say he is in Pekora's level again.

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>>7677280
LOL You fucking idiot. That screenshot was from July 2020. July 26th 2020 to be exact since it was Towa's 3D debut. Kuzuha was not the monster he was now a year ago.

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>>7676838
Is Kuzuha really only at 11k? Looks like his incline was massively exaggerated.

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>>7677392
>>7677352
>>7677280
Stop spamming the thread, samefag

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Just don't reply. How fucking hard is it to not reply? He did the same shit with Ibrahim and Fuwa and everyone ignored him, but since it's Kuzuha you can't help but reply?

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>>7677503
>everyone ignored him

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Lauren's stream is still ongoing (11+ hours) and he's already got 3.4k USD. Just doing Apex only, nothing special.

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>>7674424
Less than 7k, the debut buff is already gone?

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>>7677792
ENTER

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WHERE IS EN 2

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>>7677971
Stuck inside a cube, please understand

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>>7677971
>WHERE IS EN 2
The olympics are over now, so probably soon.

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>>7671534
>not even koushien time yet
>Kuzuha wins again
based tokyo ghoul

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>>7677971
5 more ugly Irys variations, have fun

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>>7678140
He was playing Powerpro and achieved Koshien you stupid tourist

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>>7677792
6k? Their success didn't last long. What a flop of a new wave.

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>>7678140
King Kuzuha, thot's Slayer, the Hololive's nemesis

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>>7678283
it's not even the tournament yet. If Kuzuha makes the finals he might break records.

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>>7677792
Another money magnet Nijimale

>>7677824
Lauren had 9k peak earlier in the night, which is still really good for Niji apex. At this rate, it does feel like the debut buff is wearing out.
These are everyone's latest streams (keep in mind some are debuff games):
Axia (4.4k): https://playboard.co/en/video/gDG2tz1gtwU
Oliver (3.9k): https://playboard.co/en/video/NHwOtQWt5cs
Lain (5.9k): https://playboard.co/en/video/30NGMEUNprk
Leos (6.2k): https://playboard.co/en/video/ycSgmaXJ6zs
Lauren (9.4k): https://playboard.co/en/video/KERcl78ZiJM

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>>7678300
THE VANGAURD OF VAMPIRES
THE GHOUL OF GUNS
THE ACES OF ACES
THE KNIGHTED OF THE UNITED
THE HARBINGER OF HOPE
THE BRINGER OF BASED
THE SUPERIOR OF SOUL
THE EMPEROR OF EXCELLENCE
THE POPE OF PURITY

ENTER, KING KUZUHA

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>>7678539
Those are pathetic numbers

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>>7678539
Zelda is such huge debuff game, even Kanae only got like 5k people watching him playing Zelda yesterday.
Axia still consistently getting ~2k supa every solo stream is pretty good, granted part of this is because he reached 150k subs. Doesn't seem like he'll do a celebration stream.
Lauren's fan's spending power is crazy holy shit. Imagine the day he gets his 3d.

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>>7678898
zelda is a debuff game for him because his audience is composed of apexautists. People like noel or kiara get regular numbers from it.

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>>7679449
Unless you're doing odd stuff like Speedruns or Challenge runs in Zelda, it's a pretty debuff streaming game (with some exceptions).
Especially since they're much better games to be played than watched usually.

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>>7679449
>>7678898
Zelda is long so it's automatically a debuff the longer you play it. But Leos was not playing a zelda game, he was playing a rhythm game with a zelda skin called Cadence of Hyrule. Not sure how big of a debuff it is considering Korone got 22k with it last year. Different audiences and all.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/k57-mkoHM4E

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>>7679952
leosfags are the new cumbuds.

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>>7678721
Selejo never even hit these numbers outside of their first week so it's already pretty good for a new wave.

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>>7675928
Her usual numbers. It's doubtful if Ned Luke will bring in GTA fans to watch the livestream. Maybe increase VOD views. The only way it will bring substantial numbers is if GTA 6 comes out and increase interest in the entire franchise again.

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>>7678539
>. At this rate, it does feel like the debut buff is wearing out.
last one had 15k fro apex
so he is still on decline with his buff or main content.
is no surprise but debut buff already seems to be wearing off.

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Today's superchats, honourable mentions to Emma August, Sakura Miko and Kaida Haru who all made over $3k and would be on this list if today wasn't so full of events.

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>>7679952
leo appealed to the retro gamers autism but his regular game content outside isnt that interesting.

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>>7680454
>The only way it will bring substantial numbers is if GTA 6 comes out and increase interest in the entire franchise again.
Nah, GTA V still has the hype despite all the re-releases with barely any improvement outside the online. Is still among the top most played games in all the platforms is available.
Which means GTA V is now a normie tier franchise with the public, and those people will not give a chance to vtubers.
Hell, i bet they would be mad if a vtuber is the one to get the exclusive of a new GTA.

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>>7680549
Did Kson take the day off?

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>>7681168
No, just a slower day than usual for her

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>>7681526
Looks like a watchalong. Yeah, those are terrible for SCs. She'll be back in the charts tomorrow I imagine.

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>>7680366
I'm still don't understand how is Selejo flops badly.

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>>7684163
They were debuted as a group (same uniform, same club) but kinda didn't deliver on this prospect

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>>7684163
No one in Selejo had ochinchin

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>>7685555
Lain...

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>>7684879
That, and they went head-to-head with JPGen5.
As bad as gen5 may be CCV-wise, Botan has done well for herself, and Lamy is a goddamn SC queen.

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Miko killing it again with her daily noon Minecraft streams. This has been a great time slot for her.

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Does playback hurt ccv

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>>7684163
Edengumi had the buff of being the first JP livers to debut in a year of no debuts, plus their group actually has cohesion as they're always talking about each other (lets see how long that will last)
And they don't have a dud like Kohaku who makes it hard for them all to stream together. No offense to the girl but I don't get why she signed up if she doesn't care, they're having trouble doing their anniversary stream now.

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>>7687130
I'm saying this because there's 12k likes on Irys but only have 7.5k CCV. She has playback on. Miko has 6.4k likes with 22k CCV. She does not have CCV on.

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>>7673607
She's been doing early morning streams and will be doing it for the entire summer break if I'm not mistaken

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>>7684163
>we are Hololive but more boring, we also hate unicorns so we Collab with males too btw
Why would anyone watch them when they can watch Hololive instead? The only way Nijisanji can survive is to avoid clashing head-on with Hololive. Think about it, Hololive has
>female, unity, idol, unicorn pandering, yuribait
While Niji has
>male, clique, offpako, yaoibait, hetero shipping

[Anonymous No.]

So this is the power of the most subbed NijiEN........less than 1k views.......

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>>7687227
It does, you aren't counted as a viewer if you aren't watching it live

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>>7687227
>EOP audience
>4 hours stream

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>>7687385
SC reading after a long game session, what do you expect?

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>>7687311
This is why tribalism is stupid. Despite the fact that they are both vtuber agencies, Hololive and Nijisanji really couldn't be anymore different. Both companies do a fantastic job of marketing to the audience that they attract and are both mega successful because they don't try to be something they are not.....for the most part

Some good example of each company trying to do what the other does but failing to gain the interest of the specific audience that watches each agency are Selejo and Holostars. Cute female idols are Hololive's thing and Male vtubers are Nijisanji's thing.

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>>7687525
Selejo aren't idols if you have watched any of them, they are so disinterested in the whole thing that the ones who have got alt outfits exclusively use their alts and give off a completely different vibe. Also you guys are insane if you thing Chigusa is a failure by any standard.

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>>7687647
They want nothing to do with how they were pushed I’m guessing?
Didn’t NijiEN pretty much drop the whole “rival” pretense the moment they debut? I rememeber they were heavily leaning into it during pre-debut.

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>>7687525
Yeah I'm not sure where you guys are getting Selejo=idols from. They're a schoolgirl group.

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>>7677105
When hiyoko was still alive we saw that niji and holo shared less than 10% of the same viewers, and even people like Hoshikawa or Inui had at best 20% of overlap, also do you really fucking believe holofags are going to watch Kuzuha? Wake up.

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>>7687647
Chigusa is a huge failure, what are you talking about. Chigusa debuted with a ton of hype because of their past vtuber personality.

>1090 Avg. Live Viewers
>33,349 Avg. VOD Views

That is low end HoloID tier (Iofi, Anya). For somebody with that kind of hype that is dreadful performance.

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>>7687880
>using Hololive as a benchmark
Okay.

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>>7687918
If you want we can use Lain Paterson, a literal nobody, as a benchmark instead.

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>>7687918
I mean, Nijisanji is the other heavy hitter in the vtuber industry so using Hololive as a comparison is totally legit since they are pretty much on equal ground. Its not like I'm comparing PRISM Project with Hololive or something like that, lol.

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>>7687525
They not idol, they are drama club.

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>>7687880
> Chigusa debuted with a ton of hype because of their past vtuber personality
Lol. Reincarnation is not a buff nigger, reincarnation is a debuff, it's the reason why she had antis day one, same for Lauren and Polka.

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>>7687754
No? Selen and Elira being half-sisters and Pomu being Rosemi's boss at her internship are mentioned on almost every stream. They weren't supposed to be rivals, just opposites to pair off. Petra and Finana are the only one who have limited interactions, but they work great as the opposite ends of the seiso scale for NijiEN.

>>7687880
She's 5 times bigger than her past life in subs and 10 times bigger in viewership, that's not a failure... By these standards Polka is a failure.

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>>7687987
I think you can only use other agencies as comparison of how popular they are or can be given the circumstances but not as to whether they are successful since only money is the defining factor for that. All of them earn their coin through merch, sponsorships, ads and SCs. If they are earning more than twice the cost to maintain them they are a success. You won't know those numbers though since they vary.

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>>7687525
If Serejo were actually idols, they wouldn't have flopped this hard. Especially Hisui.

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>>7687647
She IS a failure considering how hard they try to push her with countless events and she's still not doing well, they used Kenmochi to boost her in the past and they used Maimoto and 5 newbies to boost her again recently and she's still a sub 1k viewers nobody.

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>>7688074
Polka is a failure, as is most of gen 5 since their closest suitable benchmark is EN which debuted only a month later and have already surpassed them in every metric that matters.

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>>7688189
Keep coping. Maybe one day your rrat will come true

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>>7688160
She's just doing it because she's good for those types of streams not because Nijisanji wishes she had more views. If Nijisanji cared about boosting them they wouldn't leave Ako who's an amazing singer, alone in the dust. I know this may shock you but Chigusa is friends with people and collabs with her friends.

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>>7688189
Thankfully that's not the case in the real world and is only a thing for the schizos on this board. They are all making bank, you don't need to concernfag so hard about people who are more successful than you would ever be in your life.

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>>7688074
Didn't polka earn less than 300.000 yen in her 3D debut? I mean jesus fucking christ, I see indies with 50k subs that earn a lot more than that.

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>>7688261
>If Nijisanji cared about boosting them they wouldn't leave Ako who's an amazing singer, alone in the dust.
Do you know about Niji's preferential treatment? Just like how they didn't give a shit about people slandering other Nijis but they immediately put out an official statement when Morinaka got slander, they don't care about other selejos, only Chigusa.

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>>7688317
She earned 1 million yen from her 3D

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>>7688617
why are you even replying to him

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>>7688617
that is pretty low though.

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>>7688317
1M yen actually.
Also polka doesnt promote SC rather Membership.
She has minimum 2k memebers and might be hitting the 4k giving some of the views on her member streams

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>>7688261
Who?

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>>7689258
Someone I just made up in my head

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>>7688433
I wonder if Mel will finally get her solo live after Aqua's, I think, fifth this year?

[Anonymous No.]

So is miko top 3 in holo now? She pretty much gets 20k consistently

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>>7689579
Top 5. Still below Peko/Aqua/Marine.

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>>7689579
It honestly depends on what Aqua is doing. I'd say that rn, Miko is 3rd because she's been streaming more than Aqua, but Aqua has traded streaming time for sponsorships + Idol reps.

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>>7689579
>She pretty much gets 20k consistently
>only 3 streams with 20K or above
>out of 12 streams this week
Anon do you have brain problems?

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>>7689875
We both have one

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>>7689579
>23414 (median) :: 24664 mean :: pekora (249 streams)
>18576 (median) :: 22676 mean :: marine (152 streams)
>17290 (median) :: 19802 mean :: gura (120 streams)
>13874 (median) :: 17259 mean :: aqua (092 streams)
>11918 (median) :: 13425 mean :: miko (214 streams)
>11885 (median) :: 13452 mean :: ayame (037 streams)
>11765 (median) :: 13677 mean :: korone (146 streams)
>10861 (median) :: 13067 mean :: subaru (174 streams)
>10580 (median) :: 12969 mean :: haato (082 streams)
>10206 (median) :: 11696 mean :: shion (030 streams)
>09574 (median) :: 12534 mean :: suisei (143 streams)
>09204 (median) :: 10744 mean :: rushia (150 streams)
>08924 (median) :: 10356 mean :: inanis (145 streams)
>08550 (median) :: 19175 mean :: irys (011 streams)
>08131 (median) :: 10151 mean :: botan (192 streams)
>07892 (median) :: 10680 mean :: kanata (201 streams)

Here's your answer

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>>7690210
Now that I look at this again and compare to Niji's top livers, I don't know what would happen after Hololive adds 2 more gen into it. Irys is at most a mid tier holo looking how her debut buff wears off completely already. They really do need more gamers in the gens.

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>>7690210
I love Irys but I don't think it's fair to include her yet with 11 streams. She's only now sticking with a stable schedule and is only starting a regular karaoke on a weekend. I will give her another month to really see her constant numbers. I was watching her today and her stream grew to 14k likes throughout the stream even though her CCV never jumped beyond 8k. Someone needs to teach her how to turn off playback

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Weekly VOD numbers
https://panora.tokyo/archives/31491

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>>7689579
first, it was CAMP, then 4 kings (+Korone -Coco), then +Miko -Korone, then +Subaru. The last one is debatable because Aqua is still strong.

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Is it plausible to make a competition on who could reach the farthest with remaining members or kill the ender dragon the fastest in minecraft hardcore? It makes up for a good story and team building between generation members. They don't need to fight at the same time, just one gen picking the best time they could spend hours with, record the time and achievements made. The time stops only when all members die or when the ender dragon is killed.

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>>7690495
Eh, Holo has short anime and songs, there's no way Nijicucks ca...NOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>7690495
>every POV of that scuffed soccer game made it in
lol

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>>7690495
>Nimu Ch.
Wow, i didn't know ARS had their own vtuber with big numbers.

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>>7689483
>I wonder if Mel will finally get her solo live
Actually, Mel got her 3D live in May, and it's not like she would want a solo liveanyways since she is one of the most collab-friendly holos
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/W0szWI6e87A

>after Aqua's, I think, fifth this year?
Aqua got her first ever youtube solo live in May as well. Her previous lives were in 2020 on bilibili. Her Nissin live wasn't given to her by Cover, and her 3D live tonight is her anniversary one, same as Mel's.

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>>7692078
Actually, I was wrong, Mel's anniversary 3D live was a solo live. There were no guest performers.

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>>7692078
I'm talking about the solo event Live and not anniversary/birthday lives.

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>>7692131
Then Aqua only has 1 this year (2 if we count NISSIN, but that one is sponsored) and holos pay out of pocket for their solo concerts, like ones Okayu and Nene got, so many of them opt not to do them.

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>>7692131
I mean Aqua is definitely not getting preferential treatment with the constant steam of events she receives, right? Hololive can't be as bad Nijisanji in that respect, right?

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>>7692235
Aqua is getting preferential treatment insofar that companies want her for advertising. The reason she's been so busy from June through to July is that she hadn't realized just how much shit she had accepted in such a short period of time. Red Bull sponsorship->Anime ED->Nissin, plus all the dancing + singing practice she took on.
From how sponsorships with multiple holomems looks, it appears that outside of 'units' formed for specific purposes like NegiU, Cover offers 1 'high profile member' and then stipulates that you also take 1-2 lower tier members so that no one gets left behind. See the recent Valkyrie of the End netflix sponsorship, where it was Pekora, Roberu, and Aki.
Cover doesn't give preferential treatment for their support for things such as Songs, 3d lives etc but doesn't restrict members from striking out on their own for song production etc if they want to spend the money to do it outside of the First In, First out queue they have which takes a while between red tape and having to deal with so many members' requests.
BACK TO NUMBERS
Aqua's live is tonight, post your predictions!
Reminder that Aqua's last 3d Live managed to hit 100k Solo, and that wasn't on a special event like an anniversary either.
I'm predicting 115-120k, depending on what guests she has lined up.

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>>7692907
>See the recent Valkyrie of the End netflix sponsorship, where it was Pekora, Roberu, and Aki.
Nijisanji got a shitload of those sponsorships but nobody here tracks this so people will keep talking about the preferential treatment shit anyway.

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>>7692907
I'm gonna lowball it and predict around ~100k. She has been promoting it a lot the past few weeks and like you said, she got 100k solo in May. We have idea who she has as guests or if there even are guests, so idk if it'll go higher to like 120k. Hope I'm wrong tho.

idk if its because ever since Kanata had like 10 guests and got 97k, every holo anniversary/bday has had a bunch of pre-recorded guest performances and idk how much guests actually boost the numbers.

Just look at Okayu's bday 3D live in Feb. 79k without any guest performers sounds really high nowadays, but maybe it is possible for the most popular holomems to get 100k without any guests. Well, Aqua is an example at least.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/RxytWppYJq8

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>>7690210
You should probably cut down the number of streams to the recent 100 to get a more stable average count

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>>7693060
There was an anime that showed over half of the girls in Nijisanji. WIXOSS anime.

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>>7692907
I'm gonna lowball it and predict ~100k, which is what she got last time. We don't know what guests she has lined up or if there even are guests tonight. Her last live being in May also seems a bit too close and might affect her peak numbers. Hoping I'm wrong and she gets 100k.

I'm curious about how much of a boost guests actually bring. It's undeniable that guests do boost numbers, but we have seen some solo anniversary/bday streams get high numbers too, like Okayu's bday live in Feb (79k) and Aqua's recent solo 3D live. Interestingly enough, Okayu's solo bday 3D live outperformed the Okakoro anniversary 3D live (66k peak). Now THAT is a weird number.

Okayu solo Bday: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/RxytWppYJq8
Okakoro: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/v8tFy6_6R84

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>>7692907
170k+, she got 100k on sololive and 50k totsumachi yesterday, no way it's gonna be that low.

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>>7692907
I think the ED was greenlighted because the managaka is a vtuber who collabs a lot with Nene's mama and is good friends with Ui Mama. Nene has a great relationship with her mama. The mangaka probably likes Subaru and Aqua so instead of the OG Nissin trio they replaced Pekora with Nene. https://www.youtube.com/c/%E6%98%86%E5%B8%83%E3%82%8F%E3%81%8B%E3%82%81/videos

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>>7693292
Gets 120k*

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>>7692907
150k

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>>7693409
lol

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>>7692907
Will also lowball it and say peak might not even touch 100k. Sure guests (if there are any) and the 3 celebratory streams of Towa, Noel, and Aqua yesterday might have helped the hype wave but keep in mind that differing from the last 3d live that was held on Sunday, this time it's held on Monday. Would love to be proven wrong though.

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>>7693709
It's a falseflagger classic. Throw out a stupid prediction with tiny odds of coming true and if it doesn't, pretend that any result otherwise was a massive disappointment.
Reminds me of the anons who kept predicting Leos would get 30k every stream and then act like it was a colossal failure that he peaked at like 20k.

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>>7693779
Debut buff was screamed every day then when it wore off everyone acted surprised.

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>>7693758
It's a Japanese holiday today, so the day of week has less of an effect then you might think.

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>>7693977
it's not.

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>>7694015
It is, they pushed "Mountain Day" forward

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>>7694015
>>7693977
To be specific, YESTERDAY was a public Holiday, Mountain Day (August 8th). Generally this results in the next work day being counted as 'off' for work purposes, unless it works differently in Japan than it does in NA.

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>>7694070
See above: >>7694051, it is usually in the 11th but they pushed it to the 9th because Olympics or something like that (tho I thought the closing ceremony had happened already?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694084
Ah yea, I only googled it to check, but moving it back because olympics makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/be944d9913c6025f713ee494a323196be1b9aeab

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>>7694267
>その女性アイドルグループ「ホロライブ」のメンバーの魅力を紹介するコラムも今回で2回目。
>女性アイドルグループ
>イドルグループ

[Anonymous No.]

>>7693977
>>7694051
I stand corrected then, thanks for the information anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Daily reminder chumbabies

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>>7694267
Damn, Akutan has so much history. Compared to her, Niji has...nothing. Nijisanji hasn't done anything memorable, their members only do braindead, zero creativity stream everyday and their braindead fans just eat that shit up without any question.

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>>7694341
>>7694353
All me btw

[Anonymous No.]

No seriously, what the fuck does Niji have? They have Apex and baseball and uhhhhhh, yep that's all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694353
Can we just praise someone without speaking ill of others please.

>>7694267
Also since this is the numbers thread technically that Yahoo article has no relevance here, except if you're trying to tie it to something involving numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694472
This is pretty much the news thread now as well as the numbers thread.

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>>7694464
The KING of vtubers who has better numbers than Chinqua. Enjoy your dislike bombs lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694472
>except if you're trying to tie it to something involving numbers.
>>7694529
>This is pretty much the news thread now as well as the numbers thread.
There is an indirect tie with numbers in when news of the talent gets released, or new merchandise is advertised, or new partnerships are revealed which is the
>measurement of popularity
both for the talent, the company and the industry as a whole.

It may not have an explicit figure associated but it is an indicator

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694532
>using Kuzuha for anti Chinese posts when he LITERALLY sang and danced in Shanghai for the Chinese and spoke Chinese to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694464
>>7694532
Also all me, ain't I a prolific shitposter? I thought nobody would notice I'm samefagging so I'm announcing it to make it more obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694532
Right, I almost forgot that Aqua is the queen of Chinks. Thanks for reminding me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694558
Understandable then. It's just kind of hard what to make of a post containing a single link without any context whatsoever in the post directing you to some Yahoo article about Aqua.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694652
Yeah, it's an imageboard, at very least a print screen of the article could have been posted to save a click

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694558
This is the numbers thread, unless you can somehow quantify the popularity of that article this shouldn't be the place to discuss it.
Not that it matters

[Anonymous No.]

>this is the numbers thread
no it isn't, It's the tribal thread for Nijisanji vs Hololive including numbers.
don't fool yourself.

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>>7694563
You realise that none of the people posting about Kuzuha in this thread have ever actually watched any of his streams

[Anonymous No.]

Weekly superchats

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers are interesting and I believe that one day, in one thread, we will be able to discuss numbers purely for the sake of numbers, being armchair analysts to wonder what causes their rise and fall without using it for shitflinging or advancing personal narratives, but that thread is not this one.

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>>7693060
Nijisanji's Raindrops got a song for a TV drama ED (one hour until the first affair) and Mito, Honhima, Sasagy, and Utako are singing something for some game called Knives Out, for recent stuff (within the last week)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694987
I too have a dream. But sadly for that to happen we would need better tools overall.

[Anonymous No.]

Gotta churn daily shittenning

[Anonymous No.]

One more member for the MC HC pile. Peaks for MC HC today
>Pekora, 27,714 (Still going)
>Miko, 24,057
>Polka, 11,382

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694886
did you filter kson?

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>>7694464
Dunno... maybe the only vtuber album to reach #1 at Oricon?
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000210.000030865.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>7695257
That's a great feat. Also
> stop falling for shit bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>7695254
Yeah, she would've been 4th but did a bunch of facecam streams during that period

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694886
Lauren got almost 2 times more than the second place, what a monster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694886
How is Lauren earning more than his bf Axia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694886
>2 boys in top 3
dont show Yagoo this

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe it is because it's a holiday in Japan but
>aren't the girls getting way better numbers than the usual?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7695521
He was doing apex gacha thebfirst part of theb stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>7695521
He opened SC for the first time then streamed 20 hrs of apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7694563
lol

[Anonymous No.]

im glad the EN girls asked for Simulator permissions it makes for a new flavor on tthe list for non event streams that are not just apex and minecraft.

[Anonymous No.]

whoever keeps talking about special treatment, sponsors pick (and pay for) the streamers they want/like, not the vtuber company

[Anonymous No.]

>A-Aki chan...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7695554
These are all around their usual numbers.

>>7695758
They have MS Flight Simulator permissions. I want to see holos trying to fly a 747 in full autism mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7695885
she just returned to stream so hopefully she gets back to 5 a week

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>>7695893
wasnt ms simulator part of the sponosorship?
i know gura also asked for lawmoner and powerhose simulator so we might see that soon.
I find hard to top police simulator tough. Miko chasing niggas on the streets is good numebrs content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7695926
Goat simulator is A+

[Anonymous No.]

>>7695758
I'm curious how popular simulation games in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>7695993
they have transaltions so tey have a market at least

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>>7695885
>>7695899
It is not only fault of her bad luck (and she has plenty, the must have forget to throw beans at the devils or something) but somewhat her personal fault too.

Here is her recent schedule
>ARK, ARK, Subnautica, Subnautica, Subnautica, Subnautica, a couple of collabs

Then one cryptical scheduling for a talking stream where she announces her hiatus.
Then she comes back from the hiatus and WITHOUT EVEN MILKING IT goes to Minecraft in some dead hours (to her best numbers in quite a while) then
>back to Subnautica

I understand Mel, she gambled on juggling two jobs, any of them could have launched her to stardom (if Susan hadn't cracked down on the most exquisite one) and the gambled didn't pay, but Aki?

>she's a pity magnet
>she can belly dances the money out Uncle Scrooge safe
>she's charismatic, talented and have a better voice than many in her company

And yet she spams debuff spells on herself (ARK, Subnautica) and doesn't cast buff spell even when she can do it for 0 MP (like Haachama and Ayame do once in a while very successfully).

I'm not privy of Aki's roommate stuff other than she got unlucky by some illness near her debut, had problems with her mom and had another illness right when "cute anime girl says nigger" boosted Holo numbers.
And I don't want to get anyone into trouble so I'll only ask one question
>does her roommate has any activity that makes her not give Holo priority?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696021
honestly Aki could be as big as Noel if she played her cards right. Danchou is at 15k right now, despite the heavy competition, because of her 3d cosplayer collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696021
I remember someone posting something about her name is bad for algorithm or something like that on here

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>>7695926
Luna playing it was sponsored (and extremely funny, the game didn't have a Japanese translation at the time), but they have an agreement with MS outside of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696077
3d bellydancing collab...

[Anonymous No.]

>https://twitter.com/kakage0904/status/1424690846306168834
In news tangentially related to numbers, kakage, known for designing the character once used to promote gen 5 auditions, appears to have confirmed that they're now the proud parent of a holo. Looks like new hololive debuts can be expected soon.

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>>7695993
The Japanese made train sims since the 80s, there's definitely some interest in them

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696114
It's a joke, Holo artists all got that portable charger.

[Anonymous No.]

Boy, I really wasn't expecting the KING to hit 1m so soon. Get ready to kneel in a couple of days, holobronies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696114
Anon he's been comissioned by cover or the talent themselves to do a lot of work, Summerfes/Towa so you're looking for something that doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>22万人突破記念配信
This bitch is so boring, yes it's Lain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696175
ccant be worse than your first long series being pokemon sword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696142
meanwhile Holostars...

[Anonymous No.]

ugh, the kuzunigger is back. As if half of hololive isn't already past the 1 million sub mark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696092
>I remember someone posting something about her name is bad for algorithm or something like that on here
That was the same poster that posted >>7696021, which is the same poster that usually brings up Aki.

>>7696077
MUCH MUCH BIGGER, Aki is naturally talented while Noel is growing through sheer hard work and persistence (and through the hardest process possible: in front of an audience).

IMO Aki is even more naturally talented (at artistic stuff like singing, dancing) than even Haachama (my beloved oshi) but she fails hard at the one thing that is necessary to succeed in a field of equally talented players
>THE HUSTLE

Watame does it through perseverance and hard work, Haachama does it through courage to defy the norms and do something different.
Aki does neither and fails.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696232
Just ignore it, he will do some stupid threads if he doesnt get attention and get banned again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696210
>Lain spamming SC bait streams
>Axia playing Pokemon yet somehow still ranking in cash
>Leos not playing into his pseudoRTA/challenge streams, still didn't open monetization
>Oliver... idk what he's doing
>Lauren admitting he's a gachafa who dumps thousands of yen into games then abandons them in one day, yet still gets SC for his Apex gachagfagging

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>>7696240
i also think that aki is hareder to associate with hololive, not in the company sense but in firends sense.
Pretty much her most common game collab partner is polka and was coco on ark. Even in MH she barely interacted with the others.
I hope she can find a common ground with the other girls to stream togheter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696021
She needs to start streaming regularly. Even if it is a debuff. No content whatsoever means no numbers. She gets decent SCs through them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7696210
Axia seems like a genuine cool guy just unpopular.
Lain seems obsessed with numbers.
Leos doesn't give a fuck.
Lauren seems to be playing the game, monetization > apex gacha.
Oliver, He seems cool.

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>>7696279
i belive oliver was going to play ace attorney which is fucking stupid becasue you need to censor each case ending.

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>>7696280
If only Miko hasn't dropped her after she got her gamer moment boost.

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>>7696175
SC spamming while holoJP6 is not ready. Shes pretty based

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>>7696313
i dont mind their content but they pretty much lost all their momentum.

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>>7696232
Kuzuha is way more impressive because he doesn't have EOP/third worlder buff and has debuff from being a male in a female dominated industry. How many subs does holostars have again, holobrony?

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>>7696114
ONEE-SAN PLEASE

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>>7696365
Ouch.

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>>7696280
I think one of her goals was to be able to collab more. She really should do that. Find common ground and actually organize party games herself. She's a big fan of Okayu and Towa but is yet to collab with Okayu 1on1. It's been awhile since she collabed with Towa. She has to keep up and interact more even if gen1 or kanacoco isn't available.

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>>7696365
All those faggots doomposting Eden-gumi when this is the absolute state of Selejo rumao

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>>7696394
>dunking on midgets

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>>7696423
Please don't call the Holostars midgets

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>>7696365
They really should have done a group anniversary stream rather than on all their channels, at least funnel a good 7k on some girls channel... come on Selejo...

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>>7696365
>>7696021
i-i can save them

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>>7696175
gotta milk it while she still can

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>>7696280
>I hope she can find a common ground with the other girls to stream togheter.
>>7696412
>I think one of her goals was to be able to collab more. She really should do that.
She could just go the easy route and embed herself into MInecraft.

Does she suffer from motion sickness or something similar that would prevent her?

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>>7696423
>all holostars have 100k subs
>using the midget meme to cope
Like clockwork

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>>7696434
im pretty sure astel is really short.

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>>7696437
It doesn't seem like holoJP gen 5 is doing a group stream either, opting for individual 3D celebrations. I'm sure Selejo's heavy hitters Hisui and Chigusa will do better than Suo

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>>7696459
i dont think she likes MC as much as other survival games.

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>>7696459
She plays Ark. I doubt she has motion sickness. She can just pop a pill for that. Lamy has motion sickness too

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>>7696279
I've never seen Lain's SC bait streams. How is her stream's quality when compared to Rushia and Lamy? Lauren seems to be the same type as Fuwa and Minato, but I doubt he'd retain the same SC buff for long. Even Kuzuha doesn't get the same SC buff from his fans on daily Apex.

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>>7696528
My brain got downed bad, Fuwa and ibrahim*

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is aquas anniversary going to be 3d?

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Korone trying to build a cult
Pekora MC
Noel Boob power two fold.
Miko playing cop
Rushia on her sc reading. Lots of red donos. Nothing new.

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>>7696582
>Thumbnail says "3DLIVE" in giant letters
I don't know anon, you tell me

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>>7696461
There is very little correlation between sub count and CCV.

>>7696434
>Please don't call the Holostars midgets
I am not, the analogy is that saying
>something is impressive because it beats the lowest performers in a company
is the same as saying
>someone is tall because he is taller than a group of midgets

Imagine how silly it would be to compare any female talent of any company to Suo Sango (mentioned above) as if it had any meaning at all.
>X is doing great, look at Suo Sango numbers and compare

It will always be silly, never be any different from a tallest midget contest

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>>7696607
I'm going to be fucking sad for Aqua if she doesn't have any guest... again. I mean sure it will be fun to see her perform but it looks depressing when a holo is alone performing.

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>>7696499
>i dont think she likes MC
Minecraft is not Minecraft, not the JP server. Minecraft is
>a shared multiverse where the talent gather and do impromptu collabs
and
>an "action zatsudan" where talent talk to their audience doing some menial task
and
>an "interactive soap opera" where the talent create and act on various role playing activities

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Pekora, there's 4 minutes left to Aqua's live. What the fuck is the managers doing not reminding them, it's the same for haato last night

>>7696642
Go back. No one here gives a fuck about your feeling.

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>>7696642
She got Haachama on her totsu, that was something unusual as fuck, seems like Aqua is growing

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>>7696528
I'm sorry, I have never watched either of their streams. By bait I mean all these celebrations for milestones since she has no idea what to stream, and reading SC. Her SC reading is kind of vapid, and her zatsudans are cute but not really engaging, just talking about her day and reacting to chat, nothing crazy. She does a lot of SC reading though, the most out of her group.

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>>7696642
I trust shioncha, she wouldn`t leave her literal best friend behind

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Thinking about 70-90k for Aqua live.
>But she got 100k before man!!!
She's barely delivered this year and took so many on/off breaks.
I wouldn't be surprised if it went past 100k but it could very well not.

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>>7696660
Pekora has PERFECT time management and ALWAYS ends her stream at the last possible minute (which she just did)

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writing this for memory
before pekora ends her 37k mc, aqua had 18k waiting. Lets see how many go over

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>>7696365
Actually managed to squeeze 3k at the last moment.

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105-115k for Aqua's stream

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>>7696499
Gura doesn`t like regular mc either, but she enjoys it when collabing with others or doing challenges

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23k at start... i dunno, will it really go to 100k? 80k or so looks more likely.

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>>7696660
>>>>>>>>7696672
>>7696681

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>>7696660
Pekora usually never streams over important event, except for that subaru costume thing where she had to complete a challenge with little time left.

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>>7696685
45k 3mins in

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>>7696612
And WHY are they lowest performers? Because they are male. Kuzuha, despite being male is the most popular vtuber in Japan bar none. Those collabs with popular Japanese e-celebs have all but solidified that. Hololive has inflated subs and views from EOPs/third worlders.

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>>7696765
>50k 5min in
is gonna reach it.

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aqua is actually live live, nice

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>>7696612
Anon your shitty midget cope is ignoring the fact that low subcounts are beating 500k+ channels.

Take your shitty midget cope somewhere else, numbers are numbers

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>I-Iofifteen ....
I can only assume Iofi completely gave up the JP and international market and is focusing EXCLUSIVELY on ID market because she doesn't seem to be even paying attention to her senpai anymore.

>b-but Haachama
Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi (What is permissible for Jupiter may not be permissible for a bull)

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Destroy...Nijisanji....

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>>7696906
>Anon your shitty midget cope is ignoring the fact that low subcounts are beating 500k+ channels.
There is littel correlation between subs count and CCV.
I agree with you, there are channels with
>high sub count and low CCV,
>low sub count and high CCV
>low sub count and low CCV
>high sub count and high CCV.

that seems to point out to the direction that there is not a lot of correlation between sub count and CCV

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>>7696672
>>7696681
This girl looks like has no guest. Oh well. She's at 60k

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Why do I feel like there's the sawtooth bullshit going on right now