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Defend this without invoking drama that no one cares about or remembers anymore.

>> No.75805659
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>>75805503
Seems like you cared enough to make a thread out of it and to rig it in your favour.

>> No.75805671

>>75805503
The song slaps and it would be a huge waste if not re-used

>> No.75805736

>>75805503
It's cute

>> No.75805734

>>75805503
it's based

>> No.75805844

>>75805503
What to defend? It's the same intro.

>> No.75805976

I have no idea who either of these "people" are.

>> No.75805996

>>75805503
Defend what? Two similar intros?

>> No.75806014

>>75805503
It’s based and funny

>> No.75806067

What needs defending? Niji doesn't own the dance

>> No.75807625

>>75805503
copyright free music,copyright free animation the only thing nijisanji owns is the character which clearly Doki is not using, if you wanna make a bait post at least post something that needs more effort

>> No.75807723

>>75805503
She commissioned both animations.
The song isn't copyrighted.

>> No.75807778

>>75805503
Defend your decision to go off your meds

>> No.75807910

>>75805503
The dance isn't even the same...
It's only similar because of the music and the chibi character having limited expression.

>> No.75808409

Even if you made Doki look bad it wouldn't save your reclining branch.

>> No.75808773
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75808773

>>75805503
She commissioned it with her own money. Her fans love it. It's hers.

>> No.75808840

>>75808773
it's infringing on Nijisanji property

>> No.75808875

Describe why this needs to be defended without invoking drama that no one cares about or remembers anymore.

>> No.75808928

>>75808840
you can't own a choreography

>> No.75808936
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75808936

>>75805503
Defend what? It's awesome

>> No.75808948

>>75808840
Where?
The dance is copyright free, the song is copyright free, there's no Nijisanji IP in Doki's intro. Nijisanji has no case.

>> No.75809006

>>75805503
Don't use royalty free music next time Sister

>> No.75809028

>>75805503
i like how she keeps rubbing it in.

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>>75808948

>> No.75809078
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>>75809035
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QttNz2li728

>> No.75809084

If only there was a way to not pay for something to be created, but still own the rights to it anyway. Anycolor should really look into that.

>> No.75809131
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>>75809084
They already have it.

>> No.75809168

>>75809078
ALL THE WORDS ARE REAL YOU STUPID FUCK

>> No.75809173

>>75805503
Easy, she payed for it back then and now. Typically if you pay for something, you become its owner unless you are working for Kurosanji
I get it that for the chinese this is a strange concept, "private property", but yeah that is how it works in the civilized world

>> No.75809200

>>75809131
is this real? did they really create an ad with all the people that left? or did they do that before shit went down?

>> No.75809280

>>75809200
it was before eerything went down

>> No.75809506

>>75809131
After thoughtfully reviewing this image, in my opinion it does not constitute evidence of how fucked things have turned

>> No.75810058

>>75805503
She loves the character
She loves her fanbase

>> No.75810143 [DELETED] 

>>75808840
nijisanji doesn't own shit outside japan, the international community does not respect their arcane interpretations of intellectual property

>> No.75810335

>>75808928
Not That Retard but yes, you absolutely can copyright a dance just like with any artwork. Thats why Doki's is legally distinct and Nijisanji doesnt own it, but the author of the animation.

>> No.75810529

If Nijisanji tried to do anything, the person who made the animation (they probably did both) would actually have a legal case against them. There's nothing to defend and trying to damage her at this point will loose any little good will they had left.
Sisters need to let go. If your remaining talents are still good and worth supporting then do that.

>> No.75810608

>>75805503
The animation is cute and fits the tune quite well.

>> No.75810776

>>75810335
You would have to look at the contract they signed to know who owned it. If they signed a contract specifically including the rights to any choreography, Niji would definitely own it, and if it included a significantly broad definition of what rights were being transferred but short of specifying choreography they still might own it. However it would be completely stupid from a PR and financial perspective to go after Doki or her artist even if this was the case, so they'll never do it either way.

>> No.75810861

>>75810776
It's stupid to make a smear video against a suicide victim after publicly attacking their career, but they did it anyways.

>> No.75810995

>>75805503
Holy sisters are demented. They think everything belongs to nijisanji, despite that's a external artist style owned by the respective artist.
Reminded me of holotards trying to sue Mikeneko because they think her art mama's art style is owned by cover.

>> No.75811165

>>75810861
Nijisanji has a weird PR strategy where they seem to believe that going scorched earth on terminated talents is the best way to get people on their side, (maybe this works better in Japan, no clue, but not in the West). But that doesn't mean they want to get into costly lawsuits over inconsequential IP violations, notice how they didn't initiate lawsuits over e.g. Khyo or False's videos that included clips/stills/etc. of Niji IP.
I wouldn't say it's impossible that they might send a C&D over this, because they are petty, but C&Ds are meaningless, I can send you a C&D for disagreeing with me online. The chances of a lawsuit are essentially zero, though maybe they could scare Doki out of using it.

>> No.75811428

>>75810335
As far as I know the Selen intro, including the dance, is based on a previously existing work that's licensed under a creative commons license. So the only IP Niji has from either of those videos is the character Selen Tatsuki.

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>>75805503
It's cute fun intro which would be a shame to give up on or not reuse in anyway. Simple as.

>> No.75811489

>>75809200
that's from before, but they were still selling selen merch for weeks even after the whole suicide thing, so eh.

>> No.75811773

Defend what?
After getting fucked over, she decided to carry over intro and fanbase name so everyone gets to pick up where things left off, and she knows Anycolor is too incompetent to file a lawsuit for them.

>> No.75811895

>>75810776
>However it would be completely stupid from a PR and financial perspective [...] so they'll never do it either way
that never stopped them before

>> No.75811988

>>75805503
Cute intro with royalty free music. I’m sure the original authoer would call out the user if there is a problem.
Oh wait, it’s the same person, so no problem at all.

>> No.75812234

>>75805503
There's nothing that needs defending. It a cute intro that was made by the same artist for the same person.

>> No.75812546

>>75805503
what's there to defend. I highly doubt Nijisanji paid for any part of either intros so the only thing they own is the Selen character rights.

>> No.75812812

>>75808840
lol no it aint idort

>> No.75812993

>>75805671
The song is and was already royalty free btw.
https://youtu.be/MkGRIr1rAhs

>> No.75813241

>>75810335
As someone who actually looked into this earlier, Doki's in the good. While the music is royalty free, it is not copyright free. Thus, the dance (which could theoretically have been copyrighted) can't be, because it's an unlawful (because unapproved) derivative work of the song. Unlawful derivative works don't get copyright protection. Thus, Nijisanji doesn't own the dance, so Doki can steal it.

>> No.75813544

>>75813241
Also, even as late as Luca (per Raziel's document), NijiEN expected the livers to do all of that work. There's no chance that Selen wrote up a contract with whoever made the animation, as opposed to simply commissioning the work normally. It's not a work made for hire (choreography isn't one of the nine special commission types), so the contract would have to include a transfer statement accruing to Nijisanji. Given this, ANYCOLOR probably doesn't even own the rights, not to mention the fact that they don't really exist in the first place.

>> No.75813748

>>75813241
Dancing to music does not make the dance a derivative work.

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>>75808840
Good.

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>>75805503
The charges, officer?

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