/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why is she such a bitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577129
Because her dad is more entertaining than her.

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji's policy on prioritizing "personal expression" is a mistake

[Anonymous No.]

what's wrong with it? I love bitches

[Anonymous No.]

hana was right!

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>>7577129
She was right btw.

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>>7577170
I don't know why people on this board parrot this. I'd expect more to complain about how he's literally said on Hana's streams "Donate to the DSA" and things like that.
That aside, Hana was right!

[Anonymous No.]

hana was right

[Anonymous No.]

>Why is she such a bitch?

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>>7577129
She callef herself an egirl and is now treated as such

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577257
>Donate to the DSA
Based

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>>7577224
Hana was wrong though. An essential part of being an egirl is posting selfies on instagram or twitter of your body, it's pretty much all they do apart from some simp-baiting tweets. And no, posting your design is not the same as posing your ass or tits in revealing clothes for coomer retweets.
Hana's just annoyed that if she wasn't a vtuber she'd be doing that kind of stuff and thus her current 'fans' would hate her guts.

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>>7577328
It was a funny thing to say to an audience that at least had a strong indo minority, if not a majority (and also a bit irresponsible, since IIRC being a communist is still technically illegal in Indonesia), but aside from that yes, he is. It's just surprising more people on here haven't seen those clips and started calling him a SJW.

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>>7577129
>Why is she such a bitch?
What did she do that made you ask this question? I haven't been keeping up with her recently.

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>>7577654
Probably just dragging up old drama, as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>Why is she such a bitch?
>What did she do that made you ask this question? I haven't been keeping up with her recently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577307
majority of her fans are chink though

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>>7577728
>>>/b/

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>>7577328
What isn't the dsa deaf seniors of America what does that have to due communism

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>>7577389
Holy cope

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>>7577866
Please tell me this is an actual question. I don't think it is but I want to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577389
based
>>7577991
I think you're the one coping, anon

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>>7577389
Extreme cope, people use egirl to refer to way more than selfie posters. And many vtubers coomer bait constantly anyway.

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>>7577654
OP is a clueless faggot and/or trying to stir shit for no reason to attract her whiteknights, and making a normal Hana thread or writing about her in the usual Niji thread is too much effort. This isn't even a thinly veiled /yah/-like attempt at making a thread.
>>7577991
>>7579521
>people use egirl to refer to way more than selfie posters
Newfagchamas, "e-girl" is just a euphemism for whores and whore-like behaviour. Which Hana doesn't showcase on streams nor main Twitter account, you would be accurate if you cited specific examples like Melody and Veibae (hell, you could even argue with Marine and Choco using hentai fanarts as thumbnails, go ahead), so Hana using e-girls as blanket term for vtubers is not just plain incorrect, but also utterly fucking retarded. The anon you replied to is right, if you use a term applicable to thots for people and activities that have nothing to do with being a thot, then you're the ones extremely coping here. In which case I say: go fucking back.

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>>7581723
>Newfagchamas, "e-girl" is just a euphemism for whores and whore-like behaviour
Wrong, you're just flat out wrong, you don't know what the word means.

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>>7578076
Yea don't follow her but that was the first thing that came up on a search so idk the other was for a church group and another was for socialism but I don't the group she's part of would allow her to endorse an American group. And even if that was the case what does she know about American politics?

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>>7582757
Concession accepted, cuck.

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>>7584475
Oh.
In that case yes, it was the socialism one.
It was her dad doing it in a stream he was on, and both of them are American (Hana specifically is US/JP with a scholarship in ID) anyway.

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>>7584538
Glad you accept you were wrong since you no longer have a response, thanks.

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No, she was wrong. The fact that she had such an incedible head start over the entire EN Vtuber scene and has gotten lapped by even self-supporting indies is proof that she was wrong. Making it might depend on luck, but falling after you have made it is entirely your fault.

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>>7584786
>has gotten lapped by even self-supporting indies
Who? Genuine question, because I can't think of any.

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>>7584786
t. someone who never watched her and only looks at numbers
She stopped trying to grow because she didn't want to do the content she was growing with.

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>>7577389
wtf anyaposters are based?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7584914
Yea, based on incorrect information.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7584702
>scholarship in ID
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7585003
Probably costs next to nothing

[Anonymous No.]

Why did hanafags choose "vtubers are e-girls" as their hill to die on? E-girls are synonymous with Twitch whores, the narcissism of parading their personal face and body is at the core of being an e-girl. Vtubers who keep their IRL identity and appearance strictly under wraps could only ever get the same narcissistic thrill if they RP so hard they start believing they're their character, which is so autistic and pathetic it becomes charming.
It also means male vtubers can never be as obnoxious as someone like Markiplier or Cr1tikal.
Hana went with this argument purely to express her distaste that a portion of her audience was politically incorrect neckbearded weebs that her westernized too-online wannabe American woke ass naturally loathed. You think she was arguing for the sake of technicality? There's no point pretending otherwise, her own father shills burger socialist groups on her stream. This is your oshi, bros, you should embrace who she is and go send her a YAAAS QUEEN on twatter.

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>>7585218
Nobody actually believes it, they just keep saying she was right because it makes holobronies seethe

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>>7585218
Likely due to extreme cope. Hana herself chose this hill to die on when she decided that moralfagging was more important than her career. She went from being one of the most prominent english speaking vtubers to a literal who.

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>>7577389
>being an e-girl is posting selfies on instagram or twitter of your body, it's pretty much all they do apart from some simp-baiting tweets.
>And no, posting your design is not the same as posing your ass or tits in revealing clothes for coomer retweets
These 2 things are not mutually exclusive. The coomers that masturbated to e-girls might as well be doing the same thing to vtubers too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7584730
> I can only write one sentence responses.

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>>7585218
>her own father shills burger socialist groups on her stream.
holy based

[Anonymous No.]

Hana did nothing wrong aside from reducing her streaming hours and the crippling PSO2 addiction she had

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>>7577328
>>7585315
>it's another lefties parroting outdated /pol/yp memes back at them episode
man, these writers have been phoning it in for years

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>>7585218
For someone who supposedly "died on a hill" for a single bad take that faggots can't let go of she's streaming to 1k viewers right now.

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>>7585530
"Based" did not come from /pol/ and is not contained to there

[Anonymous No.]

>>7585218
And vtubers with their coomerbait bikinis, crotch and ass-view thumbnails, and pedobait designs are no different? They are the literal whores that you described anon.

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>>7585574
You can't expect a 2016fag to know about Lil B

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>>7584786
Lot of pre-2019 vtuber who can speak eng are kinda anti-numberfag anon. Hana & Lily are few of the examples, they sometimes recommend their vtuber friend on stream. Well rn they doing that less because less tourist than used too.

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>>7585562
Did I say Hana died on a hill? I mean, she did, but anonchama, your reading comprehension reps...
I'm not interested in numberfagging. It's true 1k viewers is enough to live off of, it's also true she'd have much more if she wasn't such a hateful and ungrateful bitch to her audience. But I'm talking about the source and quality of her argument, not where it landed her.
>>7585600
>can't tell cartoons apart from people
>can't tell acting apart from identity
Were hanafags retarded to begin with or is this what constant coping does to a brain?

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>>7585414
>crippling PSO2 addiction
I dropped her the moment she started playing the same lolsorandumb games as every other grey blob chuba. PSO2 gambling zatsus were her niche. Now that Hana's gone cold turkey, WHAT DOES SHE HAVE LEFT?! Not me, that's for sure.

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>>7586135
>I-it's just acting
That has to be the most pathetic excuse I've ever heard.

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>>7586135
>"can't tell acting apart from their identity"
The fucking whores that you described can only "act" like that because it's literally their personality. They built their personality using coomerbait trash that you otherwise won't tolerate if it's not performed by an anime character.

They. Are. Literal. Whores.

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>>7577389
i know i can rely on anyaposters to have the correct opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577389
oh wow, anyaposters are pseudointellectual retards who don't know shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7586399
running danger close to copium overdose here anon
>>7586564
>whores whores whores
This is your second post like this. Are all hanafags illiterate? The subject is narcissism, anon. Narcissism. I called Twitch girls whores once, and then wrote a paragraph about narcissism. Of course vtubers can be whores, VShojo's entire comedy routine is 50% bodily functions and 50% slut jokes.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's be honest, aren't we tired of these threads? Can we move on please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7587496
How new?

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine seething over a tweet for 10 months.
Almost as pathetic as seething at a pink cat for the better part of a decade

[Anonymous No.]

7587558

Long enough to know someone really butthurt is hellbent on making these threads since the literal creation of this board.

Just move the fuck on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7587624
I wish they'd at least pick new bait with her. They call her a bitch and then can point to one (1) tweet. Like fuck man, if you're such an anti at least e-stalk her to get new material.

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7587624

Keep seething, I'm sure you will convince the shitposters to change their ways eventually.

Or you could stick to the threads that aren't complete shit.

[Anonymous No.]

You know what? Good idea.

Let this nigger enjoy his timeloop. Whatever makes him happy I guess.

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>>7587669
What more do you need to know she's not worth watching? The fact that she got so jealous of the attention her """dad""" got that she refuses to stream with him again

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>>7588677
oof, combining 2 bullshit rrats into one. efficient at least

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>>7588826
Still clinging to that hope, huh? I know INdogs breed early since it's basically a 3rd world country but he couldn't have been more than 30, unless he had Hana at 12 there is absolutely no way

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>>7577224
She spoke the truth

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>>7577129
She resents the fact that her dad is more popular with her fans than she is.

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>>7587323
>the topic is about narcissism
And you think that the cumbaiting contents that they make isn't fucking narcissism? They make that shit so that they can garner attention from the coomerheads, what else?
Of course, no need to mention that there are vtubers that complained that their daily views aren't equal to their subcounts, begging viewers to do something for them when they're having birthdays, advertising themselves in other people's stream, and all the e-girl checkboxes that they easily ticked.

The fact that they're using an anime avatar doesn't invalidate that fact.

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>>the topic is about narcissism
>And you think that the cumbaiting contents that they make isn't fucking narcissism? They make that shit so that they can garner attention from the coomerheads, what else?
>Of course, no need to mention that there are vtubers that complained that their daily views aren't equal to their subcounts, begging viewers to do something for them when they're having birthdays, advertising themselves in other people's stream, and all the e-girl checkboxes that they easily ticked.
>The fact that they're using an anime avatar doesn't invalidate that fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7587230
seething

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>>7592095
Yeah, gura is a bearded onions slut, good thing I don't watch her.

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>>7592050
No, I think that's shilling, you delusional moron. The narcissistic vtubers are the ones who try to create an IRL connection to their persona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7592249
Soo, the GFE vsluts then? There's a billion of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>No, I think that's shilling, you delusional moron. The narcissistic vtubers are the ones who try to create an IRL connection to their persona.

[Anonymous No.]

>Soo, the GFE vsluts then? There's a billion of them.

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>>7592299
No, that's cynical milking of desperate men, AKA advanced shilling. You're listing nasty behavior common to vtubers and calling it narcissism; you've done it three different times now. It doesn't work like that, bro.

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>No, that's cynical milking of desperate men, AKA advanced shilling. You're listing nasty behavior common to vtubers and calling it narcissism; you've done it three different times now. It doesn't work like that, bro.

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>>7592650
>no that's advanced shilling
Not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not. By definition, narcissism is having a sense of inflated self-importance. If you're not having any of that feeling, then you wouldn't be complaining about how small your live view numbers are, or only a small percentage of your viewers thinks that you're a GFE and want to make those numbers bigger.

These are complete non issues for the average person, yet they need to make a fuss of it, like an e-girl.

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>>7593071
btw is this bitch realy shaming ppl into watching her?

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>>7577170
Who's her dad?

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>>7577170
>>7584702
>>7591617
>>7593155
>"dad"
do you mean bf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7593220
Is it fishing dad?

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>>no that's advanced shilling
>Not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not. By definition, narcissism is having a sense of inflated self-importance. If you're not having any of that feeling, then you wouldn't be complaining about how small your live view numbers are, or only a small percentage of your viewers thinks that you're a GFE and want to make those numbers bigger.
>These are complete non issues for the average person, yet they need to make a fuss of it, like an e-girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7593149
Well duh, this isn't her first time

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>>7593439
>Well duh, this isn't her first time

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>>7593439
to be honest i do not even want to try to verify. competition will filter untalented toxic self centered bitches in one way or another. vtuber's market already is overwhelmed.
but vtwitters can keep seething to their nonexistent fanbase

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>>7593071
How exactly is numberfagging inherent to GFE, anon? Please read your posts and make sure they make sense before replying.
Your menhera pic is a narcissist, but it has nothing to do with her IRL identity and apperance which filters the overwhelming majority of narcissists, such as the millions of instagram/twitch/tinder/etc. bitches. I already covered your menhera in my very first post.
>>7585218
>could only ever get the same narcissistic thrill if they RP so hard they start believing they're their character, which is so autistic and pathetic it becomes charming

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>to be honest i do not even want to try to verify. competition will filter untalented toxic self centered bitches in one way or another. vtuber's market already is overwhelmed.
>but vtwitters can keep seething to their nonexistent fanbase

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>>7593886
Not exactly a vtweeter, she was once close with Moona before she was abandoned

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>>7594209
>close with Moona
does it realy means anything? Ollie close with e-celebs and Vwhores
>she was abandoned
ah yeahe, more consumers(viewers) blaming pls. classic tactic of untalented people in any industry
>not a vtweeter
i just assume she is since i never watched her, but seen her twitter posts a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577389
It's so on point and correct all they can reply with is 'cope'

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>>7594025
I never talked about anything being inherent to GFE though, since the point that I was trying to make is that begging for views and wanting more people to think of you as a GFE is caused by having an inflated sense of self-importance, or narcissism. I mean, why do you care so much if only a fraction of your audience thinks of you as a GFE as long as they're still giving you money?

>IRL identity
Virtual identities doesn't necessarily replace their IRL personalities. In fact, how do they act IRL is going to pretty much influence their virtual characters. That's why some vtubers display the same kind of attitude similar to the millions e-girls that you mentioned.

[Anonymous No.]

I like Hana but I haven't followed any of the drama following her.
Not even a little.
I discovered her during her hosting Lazulight's debut and have watched her ever since.

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>>7594754
She often collabs with Moona before Moona had her watershed moment in Usada Kensetsu. After that, I never seen they interacted with each other.

>consumer blaming
I don't mean to blaming anyone here. She's abandoned as in she's getting boring for her viewers.

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>>7595053
I didn't want this post to sound aggressive.

>consumer blaming
i didnt try to put this words in Your mouth, sry if it felt so. just engaged facts in a way you put them in front of me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7594209
>close

Moona's just really nice and even did collab songs with her. Kureha expected a popularity explosion from the leeching but it never happened.

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>>7589712
I don't gachikoi so I don't care that much (aside from disliking someone I watch being called a liar), but
1. Her dad isn't ID
2. He's said he's 44 or something like that, and that sounds about right to me as someone with a dad that's got similar taste and is about that old.
That combined with the fact that there's literally no reason for her to pretend her bf is her dad (it's not like he was a voice heard in the background she made excuses for, and even if he was she's in fucking Nijisanji, they don't care. There's members that are openly married for christ's sake) makes it nonsense. I know for Holofags they constantly assume they're being secretly cucked, but it's different elsewhere.

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>>7593220
I'm in the "her "dad" is probably her boyfriend pretending" camp as well, but we have zero evidence beyond the chemistry so pushing the rrat poor form.

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>>7594754
>she was abandoned
>ah yeahe, more consumers(viewers) blaming pls. classic tactic of untalented people in any industry
she is trying to take one of moonas top gachikoi on moona meltdown arc and get close with her annoying ex, maybe thats why

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>>7585414
To be fair, she was sponsored so she was obligated to stream pso2, she likely wouldn't have streamed at all during those times if not for her being required to promote the game.
not saying she was forced though, just it gave her a reason to stream.
If anything her ff14 addiction was killing her streaming more then pso2 was, she basically lived in ff14 for 3 months.

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>>7596870
FF14 didnt hurt Rin or Meiji.

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>>7595009
She really hasn't had any drama as of late because she was barely streaming for the last few months.

The drama that the OP and other anons are referring to is from last year and her point was likely meant to be/how i read it as at the time is that; vtubers and e-girls aren't that much different and they share more then some people want to admit, and she has no respect for people who play favourites by saying e-girls are bad but vtubers are fine.
This is a general problem people seem to think that being an e-girl means its automatically trash, but will excuse things with basically the same properties as an e-girl if its something or someone they're into, what people call an e-girl is not consistent.
The fact that the anons were arguing about the definition of an e-girl is proof enough that what people see as an e-girl is so variable that vtubers often fall in and out of the definition based on an individual views of what an e-girl is and Hana was calling people out on this.
Honestly, most people who say she was being a bitch or whatever were the people the statement was for.

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>>7598676
why do you think these threads are being made to this day? Someone realized her points applied perfectly to him and he's been seething ever since.

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>>7577129
Stop collab with that leech luna guy or something, taka bonni rai and riksa are much more respectful ... and funnier

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577129
All Indonesian girls are like that, or so /vt/ keeps telling me. That seemed to be the consensus when https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM came out.

[Anonymous No.]

She used to be popular with JOPs too
Pic related are clips that ranked in the daily trend in NND back in the day
What happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577257
Disability Service America? Based

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>>7604040
Hana isn't Indonesian, she's American. Bostonian at that. Much worse.

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>>7604577
it could be that because of the english boom of vtubers caused JP clippers to focused more on JPtubers.
But hana hasn't been doing much JP streams and her content wasn't anything special or of note for a few months.

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>>7604577
Her JP clipper busy IRL, but still watch her

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>>7577389
It seems that the responses are one agreeing and then one disagreeing
Guy before me agreed so I have to say that you are cringe and a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577129
Western indoctrination.

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>>7598676
That's alot of words to explain away how she posted "vtubers are the same as ethots and if you disagree you're wrong" on her twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>7594854
just sayin what it is bro, cope is cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>7577129
She isn't.

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>>7606509
I disagree, you need to change your opinion now sorry

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>>7606941
Oh shit, the reverse uno card

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>>7577129
Be honest /vt/.
If your oishi started streaming 3d (and didn't also stream with a model like Coco) then would you still watch her?
I'd still watch Haachama but a lot of the magic would be lost.

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>>7606613
More like communism

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>>7604040
Ollie was 100% right there lol. It's the same shit as "SPEAK ENGLISH" in JP chats, and either way you're a shit and I wish more non-ID chuubas would call that shit out.

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>>7577129
She isn't.

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>>7608083
There is literally no reason for a v-tuber to stream with their real face or post face reveals on Twitter, if they do that it's a sign that something has gone wrong and you should drop them sooner than later. That said, if they decided to stream without a model or a facecam that would be completely fine

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>>7608083
only if they're more attractive than their model (they won't be)

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>>7604577
She and riksa have their own exclusive jp clipper but her clipper seems busy.

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>>7611816
>riksa have their own exclusive jp clipper
Interesting how out of all at NijiID, fuckin Riksa has a JP clipper? He's the least EOP pandering liver in all NijiID and suddenly nihonfags turned at him???