/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Sayu's reacting to a video about the smear campaign she experienced in Nijisanji as Zaion.
https://www.twitch.tv/sayu

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>>75543193
please move the fuck on

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>>75543293
Sayu deserves to be able to talk about what she experienced. Hopefully reacting to this video will provide some closure for her.

[Anonymous No.]

this 3 view sure gets a lot of threads, very natural

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>>75543657
doki mint kuro mata and michi are all enjoying themselves and raking in sponsorships and shit while this bitch is just milking a shitty job she had for a month a year ago while writing twitlongers and feeling sorry for herself. she needs to get over it already.

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>>75543193
BASED. Might as well get something out of a miserable situation.

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>>75543953
She gets more views than your oshi nowadays though

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>>75543193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6g3mkqhFzo
SISTERS

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>>75543993
Yeah cause Matara and Kuro are not taking shot at niji regularly.
Sisters literally too scared to go after the others because they're too big.
Reminder that you subhuman actually hard doxed that woman, i hope she keeps making you mongrels seethe until your dying branch shut down.

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>>75543193
Why is this bitch incapable of moving on? Every ex-nijien already did, including the ones that were treated much worse like Doki and Mint.

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>>75544286
>mint
>treated much worse
lol
lmao even
rumao dare i say

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>>75544286
Not until (you) stop reacting

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>>75544279
i don't watch niji you dumb tribal ape scumbag. choke on riku's dick idiot sister. after that blow me.

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>>75544286
Shitting on Nijisanji is always great content, I hope she never stops.

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>>75544286
>treated much worse
You have got to be trolling

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>>75544347
Niji didn't deny zaion a once in a lifetime opportunnity. Niji didn't fucked up zaion's 3d and then never fixed it. Yes, Mint was treated much worse. Seethe about it sayukek.

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>>75543193
we already have /ss/ baked today. We don't need a second one. Just let her cope how she wants to about this.
>>75541170

[Anonymous No.]

Sayu kind of belonged in Nijisanji, desu

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Why is everytime sayu is being shilled here she's attached to some fucking drama. This is the reason everyone is avoiding her everyone is trying to move on from all bullshit they went through in kurosanji this girl obviously is incapable of moving on.

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>>75544550
>shill
Yeah, it's totally fans of sayu throwing her into the fire all the time and not people trying to hurt her more.

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>>75543193
BASED BASED BASED TOTAL NIJI DEATH

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>75543193
>So mindbroken by Sayu sisters must bring her up when she does anything
Sister why would anyone here outside of her thread care?

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>>75544431
NIJISEETHE

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>>75543293
she's a woman

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>>75543193
I'll feel bad for sajudas when she apologizes to kiara for depressed nousagi doxing her behind a paywall

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>>75543293
nah that shitty organization deserves to be dragged through the mud all day every day until they collapse

[Anonymous No.]

Sayu is so boring she needs to latch onto drama from her fifteen minutes of fame to remain relevant. So glad the indie scene is giving us such great content.

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>>75545215
So boring she has all this support. Seethe harder

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>>75545267
Just ignore the pathetic Nijisister

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>>75543193
>numbers going down ?
>drama buff going down ?
>lets talk bad about the company that rightfully fired me after i make inapproriate jokes in a horror game, teehee.
>hopefully that will buff up my numbers again.
again sayu ? just apologize to riku, do a naked dogeza and he might just unblacklists your name.

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>>75544476
Pomu chose to stay for a long ass time in spite of that treatment it may be a meme at this point but she literally could've just left and moved on never to be character assassinated like Sayu or Doki

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>>75545543
>>75545543
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>>75546281
What's different about that thread?

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>>75543657
yeah right because rebounding to your old trauma is what helps you heal from it, if it did it would the last 50 times she did it.
it wont change the past the only way you can get closure from trauma is to separate yourself from it and figure out a way to make sure you wont get into the same situation again and if its impossible figuring out a way to make sure that you will be safe if it repeats.
also it fucks with her reputation because even tho she is in the right it looks dogshit if you constantly bash other peoples reputation so unless she can sue them for damages she should just shut the fuck up because it will only make her look worse if she doesn't and its not like it will magically fix the world.

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>>75544874
cry it out into a vodka red bull dumb bitch

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>>75546943
Because it's the shit posting on Sayu one that sisters want to control the narrative in. I only ever see sisters redirect threads.

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>I'm not a good person
>some people who left just want to move on
>I want revenge
Holy based.

[Anonymous No.]

damn shes going in for the kill based

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>>75547570
The only kill she's getting is killing whatever is left of her vtubing career rumao

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>>75543193
zaion's model was so much better than this

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>>75548376
Until it moves.

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>>75548376
no

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>75547978
two more weeks, sis. She's definitely not still growing strong while the company that burned her is freefalling.

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>>75547057
You paranoid nigger. It’s a discussion thread

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>>75548642
>>75547978

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>>75548693
I think she'll be fine.

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>>75548743
>those unnartural spikes
Oh yeah that's bots lmao

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>>75544127
Why would anyone want their oshi to have a thread on /vt/? 80% of the users are here to make-up gossip like bored housewives.

[Anonymous No.]

Sayu had a mental breakdown over this fanart KEK

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>>75549059
>why does anyone want views and money??

[Anonymous No.]

>dramatranny grifter is being a dramatranny grifter
The leaf falls not to far from the trees as they say and sayu learned from the best

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>>75549009
Raids, moron. Note how it never goes back down to the initial number, but stays at somewhere higher.

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It's insane how nijisisters have taken the hitpiece on her as gospel, this goes beyond cultism

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>>75549113
Sayu's threads are almost never positive and more drama fucking to tempt more morons to harass her.

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>>75549290
She does that fine herself retard. These threads do nothing

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>>75549113
Clearly that is the only way this can be perceived.

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>>75544550
>Why is catalog bait catalog bait
We have a perfectly fine time when she's actually streaming and she recently got back from a trip. If you watched last weekend's outfit reveal and pokemon infinite fusion you would have had a great time.

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>>75549464
NTA but I think Sayu is boring as fuck unless she's involved in drama. I only tune in for these kinds of streams.

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>>75549542
Not gonna like every stream. Chatting's comfy and games you're interested in are comfy.

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>>75549542
thats because you’re a low iq nigger with small attention span though

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>>75549754
>>75549669
Which one of you is her ex husband? How much does sayu pay you in child support?

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>>75543193
She sounds terrible.

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>>75543193
BASED BASED BASED GO FOR THE THROAT

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>>75543993
Doki, Mint, Kuro, Mata and Michi weren't doxxed, harassed and smeared (except for Doki). You sisters don't get to decide when a traumatized girl moves on. If it was you in her place you would've already killed yourself

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>>75545021
Why are you retarded? You know what a dox is? What you sisters did to Sayu and to Aloe. Talking about PLs is not dox no matter how hard you cry

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>>75545449
> Numbers going down
> Higher CCV than ever
> More than anyone in NijiEN
> More than Quinn and Kuro
Sister does it hurt having your balls twisted so hard?

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>>75547978
No that's Vox and Elira

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>>75549113
Since when 4chan threads generate money?

[Anonymous No.]

Can anybody give me a tl;dr of her reaction?

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>>75543193
Why is every thread about this person complete unintelligible garbage
Like some of the worst threads you'll see on this board always tend to have this specific chuuba in the OP, I dont get it.

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>>75556275
nigga i like sayu a lot and it pains me to see her having gotten stuck like this. why is articulating that making you so angry?

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>>75556490

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>>75556539
nijisisters are chinese or sea, dramakiddies are sea or latinx, neither are very good at english

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>>75556490
the biggest tl;dr is she's still bitter because of how people ghosted her after the termination notice. She tried really hard to fit in with Niji and keep her head down, but they turned on her anyways.

As far as the actual organs goes, she had some insights into finana, kotoka, and hex.

Finana was someone she was very close to and met up with in person predebut, etc. After the termination, sayu and finana got into DMs and talked everything out about what happened, though stupidly, she forgot to keep receipts of that conversation... Then a few days later Finana had her whole "ZAION GASLIGHTED ME" which basically pretended that the conversation they had never even existed, completely flooring sayu when she heard about it.

Kotoka was someone sayu was very, very close to to the point of being actual besties. Her betrayal hurt so badly that she never actually watched Kotoka's video before today, only heard about the context from transcripts or people talking about it. She was really choked up and tried to even cover for some of the sections by saying she was ESL, but she still couldn't get away from just how mean and obviously bullshit the things she was saying were and how they painted Zaion like some kind of selfish monster that couldn't be reasoned with who intentionally hurt Kotoka's "friends."

Hex is a piece of shit, and Zaion had no idea about his SA story prior to making those jokes. She would've avoided that kind of humor had she known, but Hex's words in particular were obviously weaponized. There's no way his words weren't chosen specifically for this though, as Hex and Zaion talked quite a lot about content creation, and he knew the weight of words like that and how they could hurt somebody's career.

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>>75543293
If someone makes a documentary about me, you can bet I'll want to react to it

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>>75543293
This
The drama pity train act is getting really old, she shouls follow doki's example and drop any talk of her PL for good.

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>>75556755
at the end of the day most vtubers are just kids or young adults even more retarded and mentally ill than normal people (they became vtubers after all). i don't know why people expect more from them, especially not someone as successful as sayu who already won at life. she's too good for this retarded industry and it's mind-boggling that she ever got involved to begin with. i just hope for her sake that she can get past this trauma because it's not worth destroying years of your life being depressed about

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>>75556984
Unfortunately, she got traumatized really, really fucking badly from the whole ordeal, which hit her much harder than the others due to the whole "nobody really believed her" thing. She said flat out that if Yuniiho hadn't come out to help her during it, she'd probably have killed herself, and I really do believe her on that.

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>>75543193
Archive?

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>>75556984
Anon what in the fuck are you trying to say here, none of your post makes any sense.

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>>75557107
She has to manually put in the archive after review. It'll be up later.

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>>75557111
i'm ESL, please understand

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>>75543193
>farming drama all day
guess this is why she slept with doxxsagi

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>>75543193
Handled this pretty professionally but a bit summarized:
>once again pointed out the similarity between her and Doki being terminated being smear campaigns to assemble a mob to both yet Niji was silly to think it works on Doki.
>Admitted to have made a lot of mistakes herself and that criticism is valid, which she does take to heart but not the way people are going at her.
>Confirmed Doki is a good person who deserves all the good things that come to her
>Confirmed she is envious of her but understands that Doki deserves the support more than her for knowing from her short time in Niji that she has been great
>Said she doesnt know what the future may bring for her as a streamer as she did lose viewers
>Confirmed that if by any chance she ever somehow gets the money, she wants to buy the "Dee's Nuts" company
>Someone asked if she could join VShoujo. She answered she asked but they didn't want her. Said Vshoujo saved many people but that is a clique where you have to be friends to get in and she ain't in the circle and that applying is useless if you arent part of their circle.
>Joked about sueing the people who slander her online cause she was told she can easily win every case and someone said to do a "Sue-athon".
>Said she wants to talk and collab with certain people but a lot of people she regarded as friends left her

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>>75557390
>>Joked about sueing the people who slander her online cause she was told she can easily win every case and someone said to do a "Sue-athon".
The western Michael Cat...

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>>75556275
>memoryholing /b/omu

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>>75557390
>Vshoujo saved many people but that is a clique
we knew since nina joined

[Anonymous No.]

>>75543293
Take your own advice sister

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>>75557390
It is honestly sad that so many of the big Vtubers still absolutely refuse to acknowledge her existence. Really lowered my opinion of the seemingly more compassionate members of VShojo like Ironmouse or Melody. Then again they’ve shown absolutely no support for Doki either so I guess it really is just all about if you are in their clique

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>>75557645
well the cat part fits

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>>75558071
The sad truth is nijisanji succeeded in their character assassination of sayu and people don't care to change their opinion anymore. This is why I wish a painful death on all nijinigger families

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>>75558135
I just hope she doesn’t lose more friends now. She raided Saruei yesterday and they were both super kind to each other, it was nice to see Sayu interacting with new people,

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>>75543193
dramatubers are shit.

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>>75558135
>and people don't care to change their opinion anymore
But they did? The difference is that Doki is known to normies so she get big numbers, while Sayu is just known in the vtuber community. The general consensus has done a 180 on her tho.

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>>75557390
>but a lot of people she regarded as friends left her

Can confirm this one. There is a JP streamer called Kuro_Ken who used to have a Vtuber channel in his discord.
The Zaion/Sayu news hit the channel and he said that he does know Sayu and raided her a lot before Niji when her doc was brought up.
He was never much into Vtubers and the channel was mainly there for people in the server cause they brought the topic to the anime channel. He really doesnt know much about it.
He said he doesn't know anything about Niji only what he heard from people that brought it to the Vtuber channel.
Learned it was Sayu behind Zaion and how he regrets ever raiding her or knowing her.
Deleted the channel ever since the Doki stuff cause he didn't want the drama.

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>>75558071
You'll now remember the rat's thinly veiled bitchfest about Holo fans not liking them or beg tweeting at HER. It's always about them.

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>>75558325
Ugh, god I hate this kind of shit.
>>75558226
Sadly, not everyone. There's still a lot of people who still don't want to deal with it, like with >>75558325
.

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>>75557390
God I hate Vshitjo

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>>75556551
nta but maybe you should be more articulate, so everyone else including me won't just interpret your post as victim blaming.

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>>75556984
>she's too good for this retarded industry and it's mind-boggling that she ever got involved to begin with.
did you actually watch the stream or the previous one? she can only get fulfillment from befriending and entertaining people.

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>>75556755
It's confirmed then that cuntoka fucked over Mel.

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>>75543993
And neither of those had a big smear campaign against them like Sayu did

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>>75558865
Nah, zaion had nothing to do with mel.
But kotoka definitely fucked over zaion.
>>75558913
Doki had one, but it failed due to Selen actually being a big name in the scene for years.

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>>75557077
wherever she is now, Yunii will have my eternal gratitude for saving Sayu.
>>75557263
you're too esl, we can't lmao
>>75557983
and why Sayu can't join now.
>>75558071
Mouse follows her according to twitchtracker, no idea about Melody tho.
>>75558195
don't forget she got raided by Bao today. the rebuild is slow, but it's definitely happening.
>>75558865
it's not confirmed, people even tried to bring it up in chat.

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>>75558913

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>>75558722
maybe you should stop catastrophizing and assuming the worst of people? that's actually a mental illness, you know?

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>>75559041
>wherever she is now, Yunii will have my eternal gratitude for saving Sayu.
She's still on twitter. Hell, she's still Sayu's model artist. She's not dead or anything, just not streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone got the vod? twitch messed the audio

[Anonymous No.]

>>75559638
wtf, you're right. Why is the audio desynced? Apparently some people did record vods, so it'll probably be reuploaded later.

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>>75559200
good to know, thank you anon. I don't use twatter
>>75559638
>>75559688
it's not desynced for me, but the video she was playing is too quiet on my end. maybe the vod audio wasn't set up correctly, it was fine live.

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>>75543193
You believe her?

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>>75558443
Vshojo doesn't owe Sayu anything, retard.

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>>75559041
It's worth mentioning that Mousey has previously acknowledged the termination in vague terms but has said she didn't want to voice her opinion. She knows her words hold sway so she holds her tongue on it, a move the Nijis could have learned. Hell, her corpomates Mata and Kuro could've learned from her too lmao

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>>75556755
Interesting she's willing to give kotoka and feesh a lifeline but absolutely hates Hex when he probably has the most valid reasons to do what he did, in isolation at least.

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>>75563259
>listening to sayu go on about how she loved kotoka so much she was willing to die for her
Fuck man, not like this...

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>>75546968
It unironically does help.
"Help" doesn't mean permanently solved you fucking retard. The word itself means that it doesn't achieve it fully. It's not something simple you can turn on or off with single action you dumb lizard.

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>>75563456
That's only because kotoka is hot irl.

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>>75562819
Then how about they don't fuck with her behind the scenes?

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>>75562819
Doesn't change the fact they're virtue signalling hypocrites and that's a good reason to hate them.

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>>75563754
She got some support from vshojo and 2 members collabed with her. Take your meds.

>>75563780
That's not a fact, that's your delusion.

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>>75544286
Mint didn't get her name dragged through the mud so badly that she's had to spend the last year or so building herself back up.
Had niji not tried the same thing with Selen, we'd probably be having a different conversation right now.

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>>75563259
I mean, Hex has countless red flags on him even without the entire Sayu situation.

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>>75563780
im sorry your dramafag of an oshi is too much of a liability to get accepted into another corpo

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>>75563259
She has come to terms with Kotoka never thinking of her as a friend and just playing the corpo idol game, and Finana... being retarded, I guess?

Hex was a friend, but he never tried to talk with Sayu about his feelings. Instead, he used his own trauma to attack her in public, encouraging the harassment and supporting the false claims of Zaion being terminated because she did a dumb joke.

That cunt is probably the worst snake of the branch.

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>>75563754
the only thing vshojo has done is given her two free collabs and she still bitched about because she couldnt leech her way in

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>>75564167
That's why I said in isolation. And I thought they weren't close.

[Anonymous No.]

>Sayu: I'm straight.
>Also Sayu: I'd die for this gyaru I just met a couple of months before. I don't care how many times she backstabs me, I'll there for her if she ever wants to be my friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>75543657
>some closure for her
she says that all the time and here we are she still havent moved on

[Anonymous No.]

>>75544286
every ex nijien keeps bring up niji back with a safe word
>matara
holywood
>mint
heaven
>kuro
back there

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>>75543193
>>75543293
>>75543657
>>75543993
The thing everyone has to understand about these dramatubers is that they're defined by the fact that they're ex-Niji talents. They have nothing else going for them besides the fact that they were once part of the evil Nijisanji. They have to jump through all sorts of mental loops to disassociate themselves from it, but at the same time it's their sole defining characteristics. It's the only reason any of them have any audience now, more than what they had before they auditioned in the first place. Fans also can't move on, because they tied their whole personality to Nijisanji and now they have to pretend to hate Nijisanji, too.
That's why all of them seem to be struggling with coping in their own ways. Riku was their Bison, and for him the defining drama of their careers was just Tuesday.

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>>75563832
It is a fact. They showed up to console Kenji but didn't do the same for Sayu.

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>>75564754
>Sayu will move on when she gets some kind of closure
Good, you are very close to understand why she can't move on.

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>>75564149
Make your own site nijinigger.

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>>75564957
>get out of my safespace
youll always have your discord anon

[Anonymous No.]

Heres a genuine advise for sayu or any vtuber who does want anymore drama

for fuck sake stop reacting to every drama being brought up to your face
literally just ignore them like they dont exist
these drama faggots will never stop as long they get a reaction from the one they targeting

either this or they continue to being a drama source for free publicity

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>>75543953
Sorry a 4 view, quite better than most of niji EN. And ironically she made a better job defending your shit niji talents in this stream than you and your retarded sisters ever did

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>>75564912
>if you don't publicly shed a tear for every bad thing that happens online you are a virtue signalling hypocrite
In reality they didn't even know her at that time while they did know Kenji.

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>>75565138
She wasn't giving them any reaction for months and they didn't stop. Don't speak about things you have no idea about.
Ignoring the problem does NOT always solve it.

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>>75565341
Cy Yu absolutely did - he was one of the friends that abandoned her but he showed support for Kenji.

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>>75565341
That's a massive cope which is simply untrue.

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>>75565533
Not a vshojo.

>>75565535
Show me one Hololive member who showed support for Sayu getting doxxed and I will concede.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75565602
>holoseethe out of nowhere
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75565602
>hololive out of nowhere
>I'll concede
Hello sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75557390
>vwhorejos """saved""""
she's still this dumb huh. That garbage den of whroes only sees those failed ex organ as an opportunity. Vwhorejos is net negative to the vtubing industry.

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>>75565704
>>75565753
>Vshojo doesn't say anything about Sayu doxx
wow fuck vshoujo!! so evil
>Hololive doesn't say anything about Sayu doxx
....nothing to see here.

That's your logic, retards. You're just incapable to make a honest argument.

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>>75565850
Hololive wasn't reacting to Kenji you dishonest nigger. Hololive has always been consistent in not reacting to drama. Vshojo on the other hand are virtue signalling clout chasing hypocrites who always show up when there's some cheap public bux to gain.

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>>75543193
Her entire personality is being a victim.
I hate that she frequently asks my oshi to collab I wish she would stop collabing with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>75565995
Are you a momo?

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>>75565995
No, she has plenty of personality beyond that.

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>>75566068
as much as momos hate Sayu I don't think so:
>I wish she would stop collabing with her
methinks it's a deranged phasecuck and likely talking about Shiina

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>>75565143
>And ironically she made a better job defending your shit niji talents in this stream than you and your retarded sisters ever did
That's what really gets to me. Sayu has always defended the organs, even those who backstabbed her. But by reading the sisters, anyone would think that she is constantly shitting on them or leaking personal stuff.

If the sisters just had an issue with her personality, I think that would be fine. But they have based every single drop of their hatred on misunderstandings, misinformation, things taken out of context, and downright easily proven lies. And I'm sure they are, at some level, aware of what they are doing, but they just don't care. At this point, they don't see Sayu as a person. Instead, they see her as a convenient target to project their frustrations, hatred, and just plain and simple boredom.

And that's fucking terrible, awful and sad.

Congrats to Nijisanji for creating the perfect punching bag, and to the dramafags of this board for helping them by using Zaion as their spearhead for their retarded console wars.

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>>75565965
Of course they weren't. You're missing the point brainlet, which is your expectations that Vshojo needed to adress the situation.
Kenji getting doxxed itself was not really "drama" only because Sayu decided to involve herself later.
Neither was it drama when some Vshojo members who already knew him for a while showed some support. It's really nothing to call them hypocrites for when nobody of them had contact with Sayu at that time and I don't see you blaming other orgs she had nothing to do with for not commenting.

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>>75566283
the sisters are literally nothing more than evil bullies. they don't have any complex motivations, just to punch down as hard as they can.

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>>75566257
Momos wouldn't hate sayu if sayu fags weren't such schizos about mata. Although you have occasional sayufan in vsj claiming how it was all a false flag. Makes me wonder if mata actually ended up talking to her and it did not go well would she bring it up for dramafags too? Perhaps her not interacting is the best possible choice.

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>>75566553
>Momos wouldn't hate sayu if sayu fags weren't such schizos about mata.
It's just a few very vocal schizos, but I guess that doesn't matter too much at this point.

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>>75564879
Absolutely grim to think only Doki and U-san somewhat escaped that fate. Putting that aside, Sayu needs to move on. Niji deserves to be dragged to hell and back, but you can tell this is mindbreaking Sayu, that can't be healthy

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>>75566553
There are barely enough sayufags /here/ to keep her general alive when she's streaming. I fully believe that it's mostly falseflagging - just like all the catalog threads about her. The only thread I've seen that I actually believe was made by one of them (other than /ss/) is the one about her charity stream.

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>>75566283
Sayu defended those organs that she had a soft spot towards. Consider Hex, for example. what he did was reprehensible of course so I am not saying she would be wrong to shit on him. But just responding to your statement.

It's funny, redditors were saying stuff like how his sexual assault did not even happen and he made it up to attack her and it was fairly well upvoted. Not even the most rabid sayu fan here said shit like that. Even the ones who wanted to completely end him. Makes you think

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>>75566368
You're the one who showed up ignoring half of what was said. Kill yourself you dumb hypocrite. You don't have right to tell anyone they're missing the point when you're the one most guilty of doing so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75543293
Scared?

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>>75566918
Ah so you're just a sperg who calls everybody you don't like a hypocrite. I get it now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75566694
It actually is healthy. Moving on is a complex process and completely cutting yourself off isn't always preferred. Interacting with past trauma in a controlled manner can be much more beneficial to mental health - and that's what she's doing. She watched this video quite a while after it released, prepared herself for it and had support of chat while watching it.

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>>75566981
Retarded nigger. Go back to nyfco.

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>>75557390
Nina left Nijisanji because the clique didn't orbit around her. Ironmouse is dying and possibly have about 2 years left of life Nina becomes the roach and is being groomed by gunrun to take over Ironmouse responsibilities since mouse can't go through stress due to her deteriorating health, Roach is now the clique in vshitjo and you know what's saddens me is Henya becoming the people that made her life a living hell growing up due to being a hafu. And the possibility of mint also being a niji clique orbiter and vwhorejo next big signing. Matara and vshitjo can go and burn in hell.

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>>75566553
>Sayu gets blocked on twatter
>does a public apology on a dramafag's show
>2 days later the roach starts the spiel about "maternal instincts" which leads to her shilling the guy who actually hard doxxed Sayu
>at an unknown time the roach unblocks Sayu but there's no proof she didn't just mute her instead
we are here.
>>75566771
yes, the charity stream announcement was one of us, and I made a Wife thread a few days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75563672
I should play valorant...

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567076
nyfco is dead that's why nijiniggers like him are here

[Anonymous No.]

>>75566855
> Not even the most rabid sayu fan here said shit like that.
I actually saw them saying stuff like that not that long ago. My best guess is that the same unhinged retards from /here/ are the ones shitting the subreddit. Not that I really care, anyway.

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>>75567098
Truly a pink woman to replace a pink woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567076
>muh sister
pathetic. you're a disgrace to sayu, if you're even a fan of her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567113
>>at an unknown time the roach unblocks Sayu but there's no proof she didn't just mute her instead
How do you check stuff like that?

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>>75567191
here comes the nijinig exliver deflect

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567246
never watched that black corpo and never will so the only one deflecting here is you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567229
IIRC Sayu last month responded to one of Mata's posts about how happy she is now in VShojo. She obviously would not have been able to do so if still blocked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567161
Other way around. It's redditors who come here after seeing screencap threads. Remember how the Mococo edits only started beign spammed in catalog after that retarded twitteroid posting /vt/ screencaps gained traction?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567312
Watching you two is really fun. You both just go 'No U' over and over at each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567327
I read someone who said the same thing a week ago or so, but they didn't post the tweet. And I'm pretty sure I'd have seen it by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567384
I actually dropped out of that conversation earlier and other person joined. And no, it's not "no u". One person was presenting arguments, other one was a fucking retard, other people joined to call out the retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567432
Here you go literally took 5 seconds, just go Sayu's twitter and sarch 'Matara'.

https://twitter.com/sayusyn/status/1780573906199621677

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567312
>uwuuu never watched that black corpo
>here saying things a nijinig would say
Nothing beats the pathetic nijinigger, who still use ex-livers as a shield
uwuu but she told you not to harass niji anymore uwuu you are such a disgrace uwuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567161
It's just incredibly. You know I've seen sayu occasionally say stuff how she did more to stay in niji. But had she stayed there, these same schizo would have taken all her 'harmless jokes' that they defend her for and would have reinterpreted them to make her look even worse than any nijisisters would have. She would have been declared as one of the "bad ones". At least that's what I think. Sometimes we forget how unhinged a number of people on Internet are and just because they are on the "right side of history", it does not make them any more reasonable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567505
I guess Mata unblocked her out of pity or something. Has not responded in any way or shape to the post so probably still ignoring her, but I guess unblocking her is something

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567571
Nijiniggers cry about vshojo just as much as you do, retard. Kill youself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567098
so, the rrats about Zen quitting next year might be true after all. considering that the OG founder (Melody) doesn't want to be the public leader, Zen would be the best to replace Mouse as the figurehead.
>>75567229
that's the "best" part of the mute, unless you see screenshots while she's logged in, you can't.
>>75567611
Sayu even acknowledged this, and knows it's just brainworms, but getting rid of those will take a huge ass time.
>>75567613
indeed, but we don't know if she didn't just mute Sayu instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567613
Sayu was having a "moment" ,so to speak before this and it was all over the catalog. The member's post if you remember. I guess mata saw that and unblocked her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567698
Why would you believe random schizo conspiracy theories on here about VShojo? This person literally just made up a spiel and now you're acting like this is reliable information?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567698
Brainstorms? I think you responded to the wrong post buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567698
Even if she's muted doesn't change that Matara took the conscious decision to unblock her for some reason,

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567721
Yeah I imagine Mata just did it out of pity.

Look, I'll be honest, Sayu is my Oshi, I don't get why she fucking keeps following Matara. The two never had any meaningful bond, I imagine it must feel weird to Matara that Sayu is consistently throwing fits over her not reaching out to her.

The two have no relationship. Sayu was only close to Finana and her genmates. Just fucking stop following Matara around Sayu, you have so many people who want to be friends with you, just please care about them instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567758
Because he's a random schizo like most Vshojo antis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567910
I'm a VShojo anti. I think they suck and are inscinere. I just also think you'd need to be stupid to believe rrats on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567758
Is not random conspiracy theories is happening you know people have eyes and ear too and can see shit happening in front of them? Yes people don't believe your hearing and seeing eyes because this bootlicker just became offended at the truth. Mouse has to inject drugs and food through a hole in her chest for fucks sake I know you don't care about the mental and physical well being of other but for the love God open your damn eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568093
Oh you're larping

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568036
My condolences to your braindamage. But hey at least it doesn't seem as severe as with the others of your kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567015
...I honestly don't think that doing stuff like this helps her even a little. The core problem of Sayu is that her "friends" abandoned her, and she just can't accept it. Watching the armchair video and reacting the Kotoka and Hex throwing her under the bus is just fueling her current brainworms:

>I'm the victim
>The company is evil
>I was backstabbed by my friends
>This is not fair
>What they did to me was terrible...
>........but I'd still forgive them if they reached out to patch things up

Every single new niji drama just reinforces the same idea inside Sayu's mind:

>NOW they can't keep ignoring reality, they will realize they were in the wrong and become my friends again!

And that's just not going to happen. If Sayu wants to keep being a vtuber and be more or less happy, she needs to let go of her past. She will probably never fully move on because that's the kind of scars that never fade away, but she has to give up her wishes of getting her old life back, and just focus on building something completely new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568150
Wow vshitjo and nijisister being alike not surprises there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567901
She can reach out her. Just try doing privately and give it time. You are a sayu fan and you just saw that whole discussion about anons arguing about "moving on". You can apply the same logic here. Now that mata has made it clear that she's only friends with rosemi from niji at least there won't be rrats about some hyper clique organisation headed by the roach

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568160
VShojo cultists are fucking creepy. You all speak like you think you're an anime villain

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568468
I don't think anyone needs to reach out to anyone. If none of the ex-Nijis like Sayu that's their choice, that's fine. Just want Sayu to fucking stop caring about them and then put her energy into the many, many, other chuubas who do like her

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568500
I get not watching or liking the group but being an anti to people like henya or the company itself requires a special kind of retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567758
>muh conspiracy theory
fuck off back to red dit, will ya?
>>75567776
brainworms, you illiterate turd
>>75567809
which could be as simple as getting flak for blocking Sayu and trying to improve her public image. we simply don't know.
>>75567901
I agree with you on this, Sayu gets too hung up on being rejected by people. I wish I could fix her.
>>75567910
I'm not a VShojo anti, retardchama, but my kamioshi takes precedence, and the roach seems to be an enemy by the looks of things.
god forbid I don't go full corpocvck and betray my kamioshi for the one out of the 12 I disliked at first sight anyway!
>>75568336
these are where she's correct:
>I'm the victim
>The company is evil
>I was backstabbed
>This is not fair
>What they did to me was terrible...
and here's where she's wrong
>I was backstabbed *by my friends*
>........but I'd still forgive them if they reached out to patch things up
>NOW they can't keep ignoring reality, they will realize they were in the wrong and become my friends again!
Sayu, if you happen to read this thread by chance, I'm really sorry to tell you this, but you HAVE TO let them go.
>>75568468
>She can reach out her.
not if she's muted...
>>75568500
corpocvcks come in all shapes and sizes mostly obese blobs kek
>>75568696
why are YOU bringing Henya into this?

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>>75567721
That reminds me, a few weeks ago Matara talked in the podcast about how she never abandons a friend, but she also admitted that she is sometimes a difficult person to handle, and said that she is working on improving herself. Maybe unblocking Sayu was part of that. Even if they are not friends, there's no need to have bad blood between them.

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>>75568696
Where the fuck did Henya come from? No-one is discussing her

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly think everyone here does way too much assuming they know what is actually going on in these girls' personal lives and connections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568738
>>75568922
Because Henya is my oshi and I strongly dislike when people talk ill of her company or her friends inside of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569012
Don't be an overly sensitive schizo. Nobody means Henya when they're shitting on vshojo.

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>>75569012
I strongly dislike when the company visibly offers condolences to a fucking creep who used his massive platform to tar Sayu as a pedophile and child rapist. When VShojo walks that back I'll walk disliking the company back.

[Anonymous No.]

The Sayu generals are slow but at least they aren't just the same 3 arguments being repeated forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568738
>these are where she's correct:
That's precisely the problem.
>She IS a victim, the company IS evil, she WAS backstabbed, it WASN'T fair, what THEY did was terrible...
>...so obviously they will come back when they realize they were in the wrong, right????
Sayu has admitted multiple times that she has an issue about trusting people too much and never giving up on them, no matter how much they hurt her. So I'm sure that she realizes what she REALLY needs to do to finally move on... but I don't think she wants to do it, because that's literally how she has lived her whole life.

It sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569116
It really just goes to prove that these drama threads are made and kept alive by niji sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569012
>people talk ill of her company or her friends inside of it.
How do you use this board...

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569049
i've seen enough of you bvtm thirdie retards to know that you mean you hate every single member including henya and kson

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569181
>sudden schizo ramblings
Retard. Henya would be sad to know something like you identifies with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569166
Everyone is a sister on here now. Literally every single fucking board on this entire site can be summed up as two falseflaggers accusing the other of being a sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569220
i think she likes her friends a lot more than some drama obsessed shitskin like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567901
>any meaningful bond
Didn't Mata talk to Sayu about her imposter syndrome?
Are these not the conversations you have with someone you are close to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569049
I've seen some freaks who do exactly that. But you should also read my full sentence.

>>75569062
Sayu and Kenji already apologized to each other and you're just a dramafaggot looking for excuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568975
welcome to /vt/.
>>75569012
bullshit. if Henya was your oshi you would be defending her, not the corpo she's at. I'd bet if she ever decided to leave and either go to mythic (just an example) or true indie you'd shit on her the hardest.
I have been a regular in /999/ for a long while, until I saw they can keep on chugging without my help, now I'm just reading it.
>>75569149
>she has an issue about trusting people too much and never giving up on them
quoted for truth
>>75569292
>shitskin
she'd instaban you just for this, you racist fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569314
Definitely not. Have you never worked a job before? You can get some serious conversations with coworkers, particularly when they understand how fucking much work sucks, without them actually being particularly close personal friends.

I think 80% of the shit about Sayu and the ex-Nijis comes from the fact that people on this board don't actually know what a job or co-workers are

[Anonymous No.]

>>75565492
>for months which is a small amount of time for any drama to die out
and like every niji drama comes around every week like a manga chapter and shoves it to her attention

anon was saying that if you ignore a problem that isnt your problem then why stick your nose into it and make it your OWN problem

dramatubers are basically kids literally if they get response equivalent to "oh i see" or "k." they will probably lost interest on you and move on to the next drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569383
I do defend her and if she leaves I will continue to watch her. And yeah she herself hates faggots who shit talk vshojo or her friends so why should I be ok with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569364
Sayu and Kenji aren't in VShojo. When VShojo walks back support for somebody who painted a massive target on Sayu's back to the point she had suicidal ideation, then I will stop disliking the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569489
The only support they offered was saying that it's terrible that he got doxxed, which shouldn't be a controversial opinion at all, especially coming from a Sayufag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569484
Henya is actually more mature than you give her credit for, and realizes that not everyone will get along, especially if she knows the reason why. Not that I'd tell her, because honestly, it's none of her business.

[Anonymous No.]

On a positive note seems so far to have been remarkably little fallout from Sayu watching the vid. Honestly surprised, happily so.

Now we can go back to actually fun enjoyable things again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75556755
>. Her betrayal hurt so badly that she never actually watched Kotoka's video before today

so she threadwatched her bestie's betrayal? KWAB

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569181
It always makes me laugh that every single group on this board has some kind of boogeyman that they start accusing others of being without any evidence. For holos, sayufags, dragoons it's nijisisters - for vshojo it's bvtm - for nijifags it's holos, for Phase and Idol it's Kiwi Farms (for some reason).

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569577
except the fag signal boosted Sayu's doxx and made false PDF allegations against her, based on... wait for it... genshin shota jokes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569577
It is a controversial opinion when none of them said it was terrible Sayu got doxxed or that it was terrible that he happily fed that shit around her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569585
Just because you think it's not harmful that retards openly spread rrats or negativity about vshojo and her friends doesn't mean it's not based in reality. Fuck, Michi nearly didn't debut in Vshojo because she didn't want to contribute to the "retirement home" meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>sayu thread about her reacting to a vid on how bad niji is
>somehow this has become another vshojo seethe thread
lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569648
it's called pattern recognition

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569577
Nah this is bullshit. VShojo fucking didn't give a shit when Kenji happily was calling Sayu a rapist and pedophile, was happily getting his jollies from cheering the mob on, and then they all get weepy because a year ago his friends doxxed him.

Fuck that company. When they stop supporting such shit then I will give them a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75543293
Yeah seriously, her whole personality is "I was fired by nijisanji." She is quite literally what this board makes dokibird out to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569412
The other problem is that Sayu really isn’t making the situation that much better for herself. She seems to be upset that even people smaller than her like some IdolEN girls or some girls from V4Mirai or ex PRISMs have better chances of collabing with Doki or Mint. But with how the brainworms keep fucking her over and how her outbursts are, it’s going to make things extremely awkward and make it even less likely for a collab to ever happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569768
https://twitter.com/search?q=kenji%20(from%3Avshojo)&src=typed_query

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569742
Really just wish Sayu and VShojo would split for good. They don't want her. Fine. Sayu can be happy with her other friends. Wish VShojo didn't have to keep being fucking brought up in every Sayu vid. We all know she's said she won't get in. Why do people keep asking her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569768
>Kenji happily was calling Sayu a rapist
Proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569842
Agreed. Sayu has made any prospect of a collab between her and them a thousand times more awkward than it was already going to be.

I just want her to fucking stop even thinking about them. If they don't like her fuck 'em, just ignore them and hang out with your fucking friends Sayu, you've got a ton of other chuubas willing to collab and be friends with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569279
really says a lot when catalogfags make the ACTUAL sisters (who are mostly confined to /MANS/ and /NijiEN/ and just talk about how gay the boys are and fantasize about them getting raped and MPregged) look sane and reasonable

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569917
A pedophile is by definition a statutory rapist, are you a fucking idiot?

What, so you just happen to be a Henya and Kenji fan? Bullshit, now it is obvious you're just a Sayu-anti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569742
Everytime

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569961
That won't happen. Sayu has said again and again that she wants revenge. Against the company and the livers who went off on her. She has the magic wand that she can point at anyone and every single dramafag will hound that person. And she intends to make full use of it. This time it was Hex, finana and kotoka. The latter two will be shielded because they are girls and sayu still has some soft spot towards them. But Hex is utterly fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569666
Ok, he's a piece of shit then. But he still doesn't deserved to get doxxed, just like Sayu.

>>75569677
They didn't even know Sayu at that time and she was involved in big drama. It's not the same situation at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568975
Yeah, I agree. Pretty much all I ask from the chuubas I watch is that they not go out of their way to seriously injure each other. The working conditions at Kurosanji don't permit that, so they no longer enjoy my business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569742
the pippa/rima/legalmindset/grxit/sayu people cannot go 5 seconds without crying about vshoujouou, the source of all evil

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570188
No he won't. This is fucking delusional. Sayu has absolutely no clout at all. Hex will be as fine as he's been since the Doki shit. You way, way, way overestimate Sayu's popularity. She is still largely a nobody.

She'll never fucking get revenge because it'd be delusional to think she would. that'd be like some kid slave thinking they'll get revenge on Nestle. Sayu has fucking no power. Niji is a massive corpo.

She should stick to actually trying to be happy, not fantasizing over shit that can't happen.

And fuck Hex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570035
>A pedophile is by definition a statutory rapist
"by definition" a pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children, the statutory rape doesn't factor into it unless she actually offends

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569412
What I meant was, was she close to every other co-worker just as she was close to Sayu. Did she DM/talk about her imposter syndrome with every other liver she ever interacted with. Granted we may never know that. But this conversation doesn't feel like the ones you have at your smoke break where you complain about your boses and managers. This feels way more personal and vulnerable to have with your co-worker.
Also I am not sure about the timeline, but she may have had these conversations with Sayu after Sayu was publicly smeared and terminated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570198
Zen barely ever interacts with Kenji. She's streamed with Sayu, heck she'd streamed with Sayu within that last month even.

Geega barely interacts with Kenji either.

If they walk back supporting a guy who openly used his platform to paint a massive target on Sayu's back then I will stop disliking them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570360
Yeah and they were saying you have to hide your kids from her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569715
>retards openly spread rrats
do you actually believe Henya is actually reading through 4chan every fucking day? her general and vsj+ maybe, but I really don't think she gives a fuck about the rest of the board.
>inb4 twatter
I'm not there, not my problem.
>Michi nearly didn't debut in Vshojo because she didn't want to contribute to the "retirement home" meme.
and how is that OUR fault? Sayu got rejected during the original auditions and knows as well she'd be rejected now too... yes, because of matara, no one else. Kson is an IRL friend of hers a real friend who stuck by her during the worst and Zen didn't have a problem collabing with her either.
>>75569877
>Wish VShojo didn't have to keep being fucking brought up in every Sayu vid. We all know she's said she won't get in. Why do people keep asking her?
because vshojo beggars and phase beggars are two sides of the same coin. they keep begging without asking themselves whether they should.
>>75569852
>>75569917
all nuked after the public apologies and implied legal threat.
>>75570188
if the rrats about Mel's firing turn out to be true, then holo fans will enter the war.
>>75570198
except kenji's "doxxing" was just scrolling far enough back to his fleshie years under the same username, while Sayu's home address and passport number were posted on both twatter and nyfco.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm sure sayu will move on once the burning wreck that is kurosanji implodes

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570384
Yeah, it isn't. People have fucking serious conversations with their coworkers, particularly when in work conditions which are as traumatic as Niji clearly was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570324
She doesn't have clout by herself yes but now you can picture her someone with the anti niji dramafag 2000 gun. Anyone she points it as is finished. There will be clips with thousands of views about Hex. You have reddit of all places claiming how he made up his sexual assault to fuck over sayu and. Drama fags absolutely will make video about this. That is why I think kenji backed off on her I think. Hex will be somewhat safe as long as he is within niji but after that once the branch folds unless he has strong connections like quinn or sayu is willing to forgive him he is screwed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75569917
He was calling her a diddler too.

[Anonymous No.]

I’m not watching Sayu

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570550
No, there won't.

Kenji is doing fine. Quinn is doing fine. Cy Yu is doing fine. Matara is doing fine.

Sayu has no clout.

Doki had clout. The people who got screwed were the people who fucked over Doki. They got screwed because they fucked over Doki, not Sayu.

Sayu is just an outsider whose had some marginal benefit from the fallout of the Doki situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570624
No-one is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567098
Ironmouse is a grifting spic, she is the climate change of vtubing. She's been at death's door for ages now. I bet you also believed Al Gore when he said California would be submerged underwater by 2000.

Nina was a literal communist breadtuber, often called the female Hassan. She is a leftist caricature, and you only need to watch one of her fleshtuber streams to get an idea about how morally insolvent and duplicitous she is. I am positive she is jewish and only larps as ukranian, like most skinwalking kikes.


Mint was friends with Hanamori and collabed with them a bunch of times. She's known Nova and Lyrica for several years now. I don't understand why people treat her like an inculpable angel. There's simply not enough info to be certain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570687
I do.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah the /pol/ is here now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570449
>already rejected previously
>"yes, because of matara, no one else"
>Zaion left in March
>Came back as Sayu in May
>Sayu still didn't join
>Nina left in July
>Joined in October, fun fact, around the same time Sayu said her stuff about Nina and this supposed hatred started.
But yeah, it's ALL Matara's fault right faggot? VShojo (the Company) isn't a charity and doesn't see profit on adding her. Out of all people they had close to invite them over, Sayu had always the lowest chance. Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570770
That's good, apologies, I have no beef with Sayu, I just think this thread sucks.

If you're having fun watching her then more power to you, enjoy it. I hope one day she finally stops feeling as if she needs more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75543293
You start

[Anonymous No.]

>>75567098
>Ironmouse is dying and possibly have about 2 years left of life
DYRBI

[Anonymous No.]

>NOOOOOO! STOP TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT OF A SMEAR CAMPAIGN THAT GOT HER ALIENATED FROM THE VTUBE SPACE AND INHIBITED HER CAREER!

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570639
I mean not trying to abrasive at all but your are wrong. Kenji backed off before permanently fucking himself over.

Quinn has connections outside niji and there is no proof of him fucking her over (no catalog rrats don't count). Sayu has not actually said anything about him on stream.

Cy yu also did not fuck her over either. He did not support her yes but that is the extent of his sins. Sayu also did not explicitly say anything about him. He is also more connected and successfull than her.

Dunno why you mentioned matara. Sayu is literally trying to be friends with her.

Now put hex in all this. Or his PL at least. As soon as Niji En folds, unless he has strong connections he better be ready to do naked dogeza in front of sayu's house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570188
If Sayu wants revenge, then she has no right to complain that non of the ex-Nijis will want anything to do with her from here on out, even those that had nothing to do with her like Doki or Mint.
Even if they were maybe thinking about a collab sometime down the road, last night’s outburst ensured that will never happen, because all it would take is menhera prime to be upset that they didn’t want to collab again or respond to a DM on time, and then they’d be dragged into some drama. Doki or Mint might as well be friends with Michael Cat and get the same outcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570797
>VShojo (the Company) isn't a charity
they run on venture capital money, anon, it's pretty close.
>Came back as Sayu in May
>Sayu still didn't join
take a peek at her twitchtracker and you'll see a sharp increase in her numbers thanks to a subathon, meaning she passed the number requirements during/after that.
>Sayu had always the lowest chance.
yet she already has the numbers to join, but she'd be vetoed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75556275
nigga are you newfag? LMAO KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570797
>VShojo (the Company) isn't a charity and doesn't see profit on adding her
I get that people like to rag on Sayu but I don't believe for a second that she would have been a less profitable addition then the likes of Kuro, Haruka and Geega

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571069
Honestly vshojo have better candidates than the eternal dramamagnet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75548376
I agree

[Anonymous No.]

Throwing a theoretical out there...
Could Sayu has done something to upset the other livers?
Could they have some legitimate grievences with her?
Is it possible she refuses to apologize when being in the wrong?
>But the doxxing...
Was wrong and it's not what I'm asking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571258
such as? mythic talent vtubers don't count, considering 3 out of the 4 who left joined them instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571258
Vshojo’s candidates are other Niji members right now so I don’t know how if Sayu is actually worse tbdesu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571318
As much as people shit on Niji for going scorched earth on her, Zaion’s termination announcement did give me the impression that she wasn’t exactly easy to work with, even if she didn’t deserve the treatment she got in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571328
>>75571341
Just one example
https://youtu.be/W1kwOTQtNQQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571328
>>75571341
I love how you niggas only get your news from catalog kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571341
If Sayu was given a chance for real closure and a 'redemption' of sorts she could easily settle in comfortably as a solid streamer. Does she carry un-necessary weight? Absolutely. Does she continue to carry it because everyone treats her like a irredeemable leper? Absolutely. This is like some cocked up game of chicken and seeing which side will blink first

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571212
its less about her numbers and more about her getting into constant drama at any turn, the same reason they wont take quinn either

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571212
Kuro is one of the most profitable VShojo talents in merch, which is highly regarded to them since that's where VShojo gets their money. Haruka participated in the auditions, and got added out of their consideration that might differ from them taking a talent. The only one you could apply it's to Geega, but she already had a great relationship with everyone and literally didn't changed a thing, so why not, they could also profit from her, which they did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571553
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571212
kuro is a merch selling god, his stuff has even close to mouse's sales when they annouced his plush, haruka literally got a collab with a bunch of voice actors from baldur's gate and geega is already a 3k ccv streamer that does a bunch of collabs with everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>75570504
And you don't have those conversations with just about any co-worker. Common ground, trauma in this case, is also one the many ways people bond over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571665
Also sayu never applied to vshojo post zaion. She just said how even if she did apply they would reject for "reasons" half jokingly. While that may be true its still different from saying that she actively got rejected after applying. If she really wanted to get in vshojo she would have tried developing a relationship with other members instead just simping after matara would not have called the company a clique just after getting a collab with them. But hey each to his own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571318
>Could Sayu has done something to upset the other livers?
>Could they have some legitimate grievences with her?
such as? nothing remotely close was ever said by any of them.
>Is it possible she refuses to apologize when being in the wrong?
considering she over apologizes even for things where she did nothing wrong, no.
>>75571474
literally who?
>>75571610
quinn is a literal 1-view, anon. also, fuck kyo btw
>>75571665
>since that's where VShojo gets their money.
only some of it, the majority is still venture capital. once that dries up...

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571803
oh yeah, she didn't even try and even when someone gave her a chance she just choose to shit up on the whole group. Doubt even zen will be willing to get close again

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571803
If one thing is true, is that VShojo learns from their mistakes. They hired Nazuna/Mike because they were blind from the money that a potential ex holo could bring, despite her not having a single relationship with the people in the org (outside of Kson) and look how that turned out for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571874
>literally who
oh anon... You are so innocent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571458
I wouldnt even attribute that to her termination notice as much it would be due to some of the decisions she made during her post NijiEN career. And this is with Rae working as her manager on top of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571874
A literally bigger streamer than Sayu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571803
yeah i used to have sympathy for sayu until she painted a target directly on matara's back just because she didn't want to get dragged into her drama, and then talking shit after zen was nice enough to give her the vshojo collab she kept begging went and burned the bridge in a hissyfit

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571874
>once that dries up.
If they got investors, all while having fucking Nyanners and Veibae in the company, a scandal and a bad reputation. I'm sure as hell they can get investors yet again, while having good reputation now, less drama surrounding them and literally Ironmouse under their wing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75571998
so what's their page? "cotton" isn't descriptive enough.
>>75572077
then you conveniently ignore the fact that the roach started shilling Sayu's doxxer after she apologized.
>>75572099
there can always be an economic shock, and vshojo won't survive it if the VCs have to pull out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572077
To be fair I think the only people targeting her were catalogfags. Sayufans would already shit on her ever since she started being friendly with quinn. I did see some of them posing as momos outside here and going how are they "criticising " their oshi but were told to fuckoff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75558071
>seemingly more compassionate members of VShojo like Ironmouse or Melody.
The Nuxtaku situation was the most clear cut example. Nux was originally the larger channel and it was his exposure that brought a lot of them out, Ironmouse in particular had a clear before and after Nux began to promote her. And the second they had a chance they got rid of him in a very merciless and malicious way.

Even if you don't like the guy, his content or his attitude he at least deserved better than being blatantly slandered the way he got in what was clearly a setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572159
>Sayu's doxxer
oh yeah that thing you faggots can still never get proof of while sayu publicly associates with doxxsagi and other actual shitstirrers

also sayu and mata were never close she doesn't owe her shit, and of course she's gonna support an actual friend over someone who keeps trying to get her featured on false videos

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone needs to move on.
I don't watch stream but I like Sayu and highlights of her, but everyone, herself included, farming periodically on the clock about her mental scabs from kurosanji needs to stop, I think not even rape victims or people with PTSD relapse this fucking often, it really does make it look like her streams are just 24/7 venting about it instead of doing her things. Sayu fans really need to drill into her (heh) that she needs to fucking stop looking back waiting for approval of people that don't matter at all. Also

>Got rejected from vshitshow
Good, dodged a fucking bullet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572235
Nux recorded a call between Ironmouse and him. Mouse already hated his guts and decided to break the friendship even before the whole drama started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572159
It literally is enough, especially since it's in the video description.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572224
sayu purposely called vshojo a clique while implying mata being the reason in the same sentence
>she doesnt know the meaning of that /here/!
the same person who replied to her own bait thread on twitter? yeah she did it purposely and maliciously

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572326
>Sayu fans really need to drill into her
stopped reading there. say no more. im on my way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572407
Both would work. What this menhera really needs is a good hard dicking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572308
Funny thing is majority of them don't know whether he truly did doxx her either. If you press them for more info they will say shit like they don't remember or do you reps or just call you a sister. One guy even said that he is utterly clueless, but sayu hates quinn so there must be a good reason so he believes that quinn doxxed her.

Also at one point during the kenji fiasco they suddenly changed targets from quinn to kenji. Then after their beef was settled they went back to quinn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572159
>erm what if this hypothetical thing happened and vshojo cant make money anymore?
not sure what that has to do with sayu joining or not but you do you ig

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572159
>there can always be an economic shock
Yeah dumbass, if that happens, we all be worried about a Vtuber talent agency

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572308
we have the proof, retardchama, but posting it on 4chan is a bannable offense, and then you'd keep pretending it doesn't exist anyway.
>>75572326
>it really does make it look like her streams are just 24/7 venting about it instead of doing her things.
that's because you don't watch her. if you did, you'd know she only talks about it after too many "people" bother her about it.
>>75572381
you'll have to spoonfeed me, yt is having issues here.
>>75572487
read this very post, faggot.
>>75572502
I was nitpicking just because I felt like it.
>>75572505
>posts an ex-member
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572468
with a heavy heart i will take one for the team.
no dont hold me back, im willing to make the sacrifice.
wish me luck bros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572159
Nta but I think her name is cottontailva. She has an onlyfans and she fleshes on her main.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572577
posting any doxx /here/ is bannable, doesnt mean the jannies know if its true or not, i could post a picture a random lard and say its sayu and still get banned, there are many ways to prove an account is him without doxxing but the only thing you faggots have on file is the sayu doxx post itself and nothing else

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572577
>you'd know she only talks about it after too many "people" bother her about it.
And that's the fucking problem you stupid nigger, way to go around a circle like an animal with what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572487
As seen by Sayu v. Kenji, Sayu would have no issue throwing shit due to something as damaging as doxing. The reason WHY they hate each other is still unknown. Could be shittalking each other, or something else, but doxing would be easily something Sayu could have posted during his debut. But instead you get nothing but conjectures

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572605
hey, get in line!
>>75572657
thx
>>75572787
there's no way to prove something is a doxx without posting it, retardchama. you'll just pretend that the thing obscured is not a doxx.
>>75572834
then maybe restrain your vsj beggar buddies? just a thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572577
we love nazuna and despite her leaving she was still able to not drag vshojo into uncessary drama, something sayu is still unable to do

[Anonymous No.]

I can confirm ,as someone who personally called Kyo a faggot on twitter while the Zaion shit was going down, that he didn't actually dox her and the worst he did was vague shade-throwing

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572928
She steamed as Nazuna with the VShoujo tag well after she had graduated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572952
liar. the doxx is even in the archives, but merely quoting the post in question = ban

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572468
Sayu has children I believe, so if anything she needs to lay down on the dickings and become a proper mother for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573053
No, you're just spouting shit and have a convenient excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572887
It's not conjecture. Just a small bunch of absolutely schizo fans who act like attack dogs. Some good natured who are sympathetic to sayu in general so they humour these schizos and the rest who shit on them. Their rrats vary from time to time too and all they have to show for it is that comment he made agreeing with a sexual assault victim which he claimed to have believed was not about zaion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573100
she denied it on stream tho
>>75573122
following the rules is an excuse now?
lol. lmao even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573159
I'm sure you're smart enough to find a way to prove that he doxed her without actually linking the dox

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573053
>>75572910
I don't know why either of you are arguing with them about the doxx, they know it's true, they know everyone else knows it's true. They're just trying to bait you into a ban or continue to frustrate you. I know you sayufags have trouble not being baited but for the love of god just think for a second.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573251
in a way that you can't deny it? literally impossible.
>>75573262
that's me twice, and I know what these retards are trying to accomplish, but it's quite transparent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573100
I'm not convinced Sayu is a mom. Beyond her frequent travels, it would be extremely difficult for her to stream at the late hours of the night while raising her kids and making time for sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573262
> they know it's true, they know everyone else knows it's true.

Not one single person has managed to prove that Kyo actually doxed her though, "trust me bro, it happened, EVERYONE KNOWS IT BRO" isn't a convincing narrative

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573100
The belief existed merely because some one in kenji's chat said that she has kids. Sayu has said in stream she is a childless hag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75544286
>Every ex-nijien already moved on
Only Dokibird

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573491
They think we are stupid. Every single drama fag would have made a gorillion videos on this by now had any proof about quinn doxxing her existed. And yet they want us to believe it as fact and assume the outside world will somehow act accordingly. Then they seethe at anyone who collabs with him because in their schizo minds he is le "doxxer".

[Anonymous No.]

>>75572999
she used it in her first and second stream because she was still unused to using twitch solo since vshojo staff usually did everything for her, she got it removed and praised vshojo for helping her get everything ready before she left

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573355

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573646
I'm amazed that they've even convinced themselves that it happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573646
whats even funnier is that the doxx thing is only known by frequent /here/fags, matara is notoriously bad with technology and is most likely fully unaware of the quinn drama anyway while sayu takes everything on a fucking 4chan board as gospel

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573491
except for all the twatter and nyfco screenshots in the archives... but as I said, even linking the threads = ban
>>75573646
sure, because corpos have never DMCA'd inconvenient shit, right?
lol. lmao even.
>>75573673
?
>>75573735
>oBvIoUsLy
except for the timing

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573776
And not ONE video documenting it slipped through the cracks? It was just successfully purged from the internet? Are you taking one Nyfco post calling her a crazy bitch and extrapolating that Kyo did it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573100
No she does not.
Yet.
I will give her children.

[Anonymous No.]

honestly sayufags just seem underage

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573904
theres no use in trying to reason with schizos, let him yell into the void

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573776
It just proves that it was a South American sister who used to follow the Quinnfag that posted the doxx.
There is no proof that Kyo did it, other than a leaker/larper confirming biases, again with no proof though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573776
You are right sayu bro. Quinn is a fooking doxxer. You probably have archives saved with you . I think we should get rid of this doxxer. To do that you should send these archives to falsyed or evenstaar or even kyo or maybe legal mindset. Yeah that will do it.

Try to avoid nausagi though, I know your oshi loves him but still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75573646
You're are vasty overestimating dramafags. If it's not trending on twitter or a top result on Reddit, they wouldn't know about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574028
he boosted it, and it was likely an alt account of his, otherwise why would Sayu heart that specific comment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574142
because the same bitch that was crazy enough to reply to her own catalog thread on her public twitter account is stupid enough to believe in 4chan rrats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574045
dramafags cried about Niji posting "CONGLATULATIONS" to the Mario Kart tourney winners and they hyped up a Niji concert not having enough attendees as some kind of branch-ending yab, do you actually think they'd let that go

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574142
Maybe she was ovulating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574246
or, you know, "maybe" she had inside info when it happened.

[Anonymous No.]

You're really not helping her by throwing out random accusations then refusing to back it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574377
ah yes of course how could i forget her inside connections like doxxagi, well known for being reliable and honest

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574142
Where was the comment she hearted? Was it a youtube comment?
Could have been because he liked that post about SA criticizing Zaion and other 2-faced things he might have said on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574449
i dont care for him but does anyone know what was really in that discord?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574449
or people who still are still trapped at niji and she doesn't wanna compromise them?
>>75574495
>Was it a youtube comment?
yep, but yt doesn't show it anymore. I posted the screenshot of that comment way way above.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574396
They don't realise how dangerous it is for her. Imagine she ends believing these rrats and in a moment of weakness ends blurting them out on stream. The shitstorm it will create will be one of a kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75574276
If they found out about it? No. But they got the Conglatulations and the concert from Reddit. They don't do deep dives or research.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75543193
BASED BASED BASED!
TOTAL NIJI DESTRUCTION!
ZAION LEADS US TO VICTORY!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

I, for one, don't want Sayu to get into VShojo. It is pretty clear at this point the VShojo fanbase hates Sayu even more than the Sisters do so I'd rather she not be subjected to more of that.

I had no idea VShojo fans hated Sayu so much. I've only ever seen them go after Silvervale and Nux before to this extent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575163
The VShojo fanbase seems to hate all EN Vtubers that aren't in VShojo, trying to get into VShojo or Nijisanji-adjacent.

[Anonymous No.]

>this thread
Jesus. Just shut the fuck up and send a juicy donation to Sayu when she shows her tummy. That makes her happy, and if she is happy she will keep showing us her tummy. Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm glad Sayu has Megaladon and Rennie. She needs some friends. The sheer amount of hate just constantly flowing at her online has to be mentally taxing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575267
Wayu cute

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like the biggest problem with Sayu's base is that half of them want her to be their vanguard against every corpo and person that's wronged her and the other half just wants a great streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575381
Fans reflect their oshi.
>Inside you there's 2 wolves

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575163
You really have to give it to sayufags who waste no opportunity to antagonise vshojofags and shit on their organs at every turn, spreading all kinds of rrats and clique bullshit out of their own schizo mania and have the gall to say such stuff. Truly the worst fanbase. Irredeemable cunts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575467
This. This is what I mean. Just nothing but invectives. I really would rather Sayu not get anymore of these then she already gets constantly online.

But, I am glad we are no doubt both in agreement that we don't want Sayu in VShojo, so that must make your black little heart at least a little happy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575381
The first half are idiots and I wish they would shut the fuck up.

Sayu wants to be a good vtuber with friends. Not their weird vicarious queen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575467
My dude VShojo is a clique.

It isn't even an inherently bad thing. Bascially all companies, at some level, are just nepotic cliques.

If you're going to get angry that VShojo is called a clique then you're just being delusional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575267
Synchroknight are dramafags, Sayu has cultivated that type of a fanbase, intentionally or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575467
Sayu isn't joining VShojo, relax, your perfect company will not be tainted by the pedophile child rapist who defied Nijisanji, just chill.

What battle are you even fighting? Sayu has 0 chance of ever getting into VShojo and is a tiny, insignificant, Vtuber with a failing career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575746
Sad but true.

I like her but there are way too many of her fans, particularly on here and twitter, who fucking jump on every bait and actively want to make her relations with any other Vtuber awful.

Her discord is the best forum for her actually because they just allow 0 drama at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575467
Relax. You act like you are the VShojo girls or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575838
>Her discord is the best forum for her actually because they just allow 0 drama at all.
It kind of falls apart when you realize the most active members are probably the retards who jump on every bait in /here/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75568336
>I'm the victim
>The company is evil
>I was backstabbed by my friends
>This is not fair
>What they did to me was terrible...

None of these statements are untrue though.
Whatever your opinions of Sayu are, you can't argue that niji made a deliberate attempt to destroy both her professional and personal life. Up to now they'd more or less succeeded.

[Anonymous No.]

>can tell a niji sister just from her post
>can feel the seething yeast infected pussy through the typed out words
HAHAHAHA!
YOURE FAT HAHAHAHA!

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575930
I don't think that's true and it still doesn't fall apart. Even if it were true, which I don't believe, still the best forum for discussing her since it allows 0 drama and shitting on other tubers.

Even during the height of the Kenji thing place didn't devolve into just a circus of slandering Kenji and hurling racial slurs which is impressive for a Discord.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575974
And is constantly dwelling on it helping her at all? Is it making her new friends? Is it growing her audience? Is it making her happy? Is it getting her collabs? Is it making her more widely accepted in the Vtubing scene?

These are the things Sayu has explicitly said herself she wants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576036
That's actually pretty darn impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576036
I have been lurking in the server since forever and I saw some popular members who act retarded as fuck in twitter. Won't say names, of course.
>Even during the height of the Kenji thing place didn't devolve into just a circus of slandering Kenji and hurling racial slurs which is impressive for a Discord.
Because mods take their job seriously, Say hates that behavior and most of the members don't want to take part in that kind of shit. It's just a small minority, but very vocal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75575974
I followed those thoughts later on >>75569149

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576245
Yeah. That's what I said. Still the best forum for discussing her since it allows 0 drama and shitting on other tubes.

[Anonymous No.]

>75575467
>Least obvious bait for sayufags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576312
And as I said, it kind of falls apart when the most popular members are the shit stirring retards who eat every single bait in twitter (and /here/) and throw hands with literal kids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576394
No. It doesn't. It is still the best forum for discussing Sayu because it allows 0 drama and shitting on other tubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576394
I also still don't think the broad statement 'the most popular members blah blah blah' is true considering your only evidence for that is 'I have lurked there long trust me'

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576433
You can repeat that as many times as you want, it won't change the fact that no one cares about how much some users hurt Sayu's public image.
>>75576482
I won't name names because I don't want sisters to start harassing them, but one of them has been discussed in another bait thread that it's up right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576570
Yeah, there are schizos in every fanbase saying psycho shit, that is literally irrelevant. I didn't say 'Sayu's fanbase has no schizos' I said Sayu's Discord is the best forum for discussing her because it allows 0 drama and shitting on other tubers. You are not even remotely responding to what I said, you're just talking about something else.

As for the other point, again, if you're evidence is just 'trust me bro' then I don't trust you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75543193
It was a nicely edited video. Learnt a few terms I didn't know and it had a banger outro.
Hope the dude doesn't make shitting on Nijisanji his entire identity

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576659
Anon, you are the one who is moving the goal. My point is that "it falls apart" when you realize what kind of people some of the most popular users are, and they are not particularly shy about it. If you are happy with the discord, good for you, have a good time. That doesn't change the fact that, again, some of the most popular members are the same shit stirring retards who are always making things worse for Sayu.

>As for the other point, again, if you're evidence is just 'trust me bro' then I don't trust you.
I already told you why I'm not giving you any name, so I literally don't care if you trust me or not. I'm pretty sure you already know who I'm talking about, anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75577010
My goalposts haven't moved. I made the original statement. The original statement was that the Discord is the best place to discuss Sayu because it allows 0 drama and shitting on Vtubers.

That statement remains true. No goalposts have moved you just keep talking about unrelated matters with no more evidence than 'trust me bro'.

Again, I won't trust you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75576570
If you are talking about the guy who confronted the artist or something, then that's just the symptom of being a tribalfag on Twitter...or just being on Twitter in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75577093
Oh, so you are autistic. It's ok, I understand.
>Again, I won't trust you.
Cool, let's continue talking the next time that Sayu has a twitter meltdown and the usual retards start picking up fights with kids and spreading rrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75577129
No, I'm being correct. What you're doing is realizing you didn't actually have a point and so backpedaled hard and employed semantics to try to disguise the fact that you blatantly didn't actually respond to what I said, but just to an imaginary point in your head.

If you think people need to believe you because you say 'believe me bro, I know' then it is pretty clear why you are so bad at this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75577247
Anon, I already gave you my point. If you don't like it, too bad.

>If you think people need to believe you because you say 'believe me bro, I know' then it is pretty clear why you are so bad at this.
No, I already told you where to look and why I'm not giving you any names. Also, >>75577129 it's a good first step to find the retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75577303 (me)
My bad, I actually meant >>75577114

[Anonymous No.]

>>75577303
Thank you for admitting that you didn't actually address what I said but just made your own separate point.

Your reasons amount to 'believe me'. I'm going to go on a limb here and not believe what a random anonymous person on the internet who has displayed incredibly poor rational faculties insists is true based on no evidence.

Again, your point wasn't 'schizos exist in Sayu's fanbase'. That is true of any and every fanbase in the history of humanity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75577355
>>75577114(me)
That still doesn't change this >>75576659