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75488878 No.75488878 [Reply] [Original]

Vtubing industry would be better off if Nijisanji never took off. They popularized Live2D low effort streams and endless new generations to overwhelm the oldschool-style vtubers until they couldnt keep up and fell into irrelevancy. Nijisanji indirectly contributed to downfall of Ai, killed Akari, and hurt Siro. Think of random vtuber you liked from before 2018-2019, if they stopped growing or retired altogether, its Nijisanji's fault. The creative landscape full of new gags, concepts, and gimmicks that characterized early vtubing during oyabun's reign was replaced with samey boring stream format. Everyone else like Hololive are forced to adapt at the end. You can see this clearly on the fact that Sora, Miko, and Robocco were 3D since their early days.

>> No.75488905

qanon tier drivel

>> No.75488995

>>75488878
>Vtubing industry would be better off if Nijisanji never took off.
But they make other vtuber look good

>> No.75489052

>>75488995
But they also killed a lot of good vtubers, both within and out of their companies

>> No.75489064

>>75488878
Listen, anon. A lot of people will agree with you to varying degrees. But we’re stuck with this reality where Nijisanji is what it is. Their fucked-up, stupid past only serves to inform people’s decisions now.

And that decision should be to stay the fuck away from any name associated with Nijisanji. For as long as people give a single view, a single donation, even a single nod in the chuubas’ direction, it will serve to support them in some way.

The true answer is apathy. Nijisanjis Vtubers are cubicle entertainers. Nothing hurts an entertainer, and by extension the corpo they work for, more than getting apathy as a reaction to their efforts.

>> No.75489069

>>75488878
>/vt/
>vtuber you liked from before 2018-2019

>> No.75489097

>>75489052
Well wouldnt that cancel it

>> No.75489121

>>75489097
No, total Nijisanji death

>> No.75489141
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>>75488878
Correct me if i'm wrong, but what you're saying is without nijisanji we wouldnt have live 2D streams be a thing?
You mean the very aspect of vtubing that got the entire industry and almost every modern corpo where it is today? What the fuck are you even saying?

>> No.75489158

>>75489121
TND transcends all

>> No.75489167

>>75489141
They are the one who popularized the format. Not the first, but the one that perfected accelerate and endless 2D stream slops hence oversaturating the industry

>> No.75489197

>>75488878
But even wiithout Nijisanji, someone else sooner or later would figure out 2D stream meta is the best to generate profit

>> No.75489229

>>75489141
Vtubing was better as short skits and edited videos. Big JPs used to get regular English TLs, you know? That's because streaming is garbage slop.

>> No.75489251

>>75489197
But then it wouldn't be Nijisanji
I see that as a win

>> No.75489268

>>75488878
If Nijisanji never existed then Hololive will become a black company existed. Ever heard of the multiverse theory? Somehow somewhere at this very moment Holo is getting bombarded with the same type of drama our current Niji has experienced.

>> No.75489294

>>75489229
But using this, then the one who killed old vtubing was Youtube since they killed community translation. You can even stretch it back to blame SEAniggers who abused it as the cause

>> No.75489297

>>75489167
Put down the rose tinted glasses anon.
You could definetly argue that the 4 heavenly king days had just as much if not MORE corporate mandated slop than now. Just look at how kizunai went from a normal vtuber to japanese micky mouse with zero SOVL left.
Streaming and live 2Ds saved this industry and made it so much better.

>> No.75489308

>>75488878
a thread died for this

>> No.75489326

>>75488878
I miss old vtubing more than most, but hololive is what I like now. Hololive would have not taken off without this style taking off, so killing off the old skits and edited video meta was a sad, but necessary sacrifice.

>> No.75489331

>>75488878
Go back to youtube dramanigger!

>> No.75489351

>>75489294
I like that narrative lol

>> No.75489373

>>75489294
That's half true, yes. The bigger ones like Kizuna AI had in-house translators. But I get what you're trying to say. I just miss the good old days...

>> No.75489389

>>75489197
Honestly this, even without Nijisanji it was inevitable. I dislike Nijisanji as much as the next guy but Nijisanji-like corpo evolving was a natural conclusion of the industry

>> No.75489399

didn't read all that but i only watch hololive, there's already more content than i could possibly consume so no need to venture outside my comfy quality assured box

>> No.75489438

>>75489389
Wtf vtubing evolving into black corpo is inevitable

>> No.75489517

>>75488878
This but unironically

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Thread theme https://vocaroo.com/1fBia2Bontmo

>> No.75489800

>>75489167
How about 3D streams as the new meta? Siro was streaming in 3D, there's a chance that one took off as the main meta instead of 2D

>> No.75489869

>>75489800
Expensive equipment, there's a reason why only few indie/small corpo actually able to do vtubing back then
You gotta have some VR set and it wasnt good

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Cool thread, bud!

>> No.75490681

>>75489268
They already went through that in 2020

>> No.75490781

>>75489869
I don't buy that argument. Here's Sakurazuki Kanon, a literal who indie 2view who survived since 2018. She got her 3D before joining upd8 as an indie (and now is indie again).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zl0YEXcUcE

If she can make interactive 3D zatsudan like this since 2018, alone as an indie, then wtf are big companies like Nijisanji is doing?

>> No.75490934

>>75490781
What they are doing? Bigger profit margin. Face it, any companies, including Cover, will do anything to cut corners. It might be not a big deal as an indie just needing some changes to live on but companies ain't gonna accept just small profit

>> No.75491070

>>75490934
Holofags dont understand how business works

>> No.75491144

>>75491070
Wow this thread was relatively civil until a sister like you show up, what a surprise

>> No.75491217

>>75491144
yes, very civil nijisanji bait thread with premature hololive damage control in the op

>> No.75491269

>>75491144
>Civil
>Holofag
Choose one

>> No.75491872

>>75491269
Nijisisters were the original uncivil tribalfaggot
Remember when you retard attacked Idolbu back then before Hololive was relevant?

>> No.75492248

>>75491872
You were not there, newfag. Stop larping

>> No.75494921

>>75488878

>> No.75495047

>>75494921
Don't bump this shit thread

>> No.75495191

>>75492248
nta but i was and yeah nijitards did harasss gamebu and .live

>> No.75495878

>>75489229
>Vtubing was better as short skits and edited videos
Polka does her weekly legend of polkas and it gets shit views. People wana interact with the chuubas.

>> No.75496153

>we could have high production value quality vtubing content if nijisanji didn't exist
>instead because of them 98% of the industry is retarded women playing minecraft for 8 hours a day and sucking at it while raking in cash from pathetic losers with zero friends
Grim. I hope Youtube removes streaming capabilities from their site entirely.

>> No.75496195

>>75495047
NIJISEETHE

>> No.75496253

>>75491070
you need good PR to run a business too. Surprised, nijitard?

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>>75488878

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>>75488878
Niji remains unaffected.

>> No.75503104

>>75488878
ok

>> No.75503372

>>75495047
It's a bot that keeps bumping the thread the moment it's about to die, saw it happen a couple of times these last days

>> No.75503390

>>75488878
the ultimate newfag

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I like the blueberry, she is cute.

>> No.75505338

>>75489141
Like or not Mito popularized modern vtubing

>> No.75510166

>>75488878
ogey

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>>75488878
I agree with you, OP.

>> No.75514877

>>75505338
Why lie?

>> No.75515231

>>75488878
With how many times this thread has been made, it might as well become a general by this point.
Examples:
>>/vt/thread/74983226
>>/vt/thread/74983981
>>/vt/thread/74985170

>> No.75517302

the vtubing world would be better off if niji and the shitter fanbase they cultivated completely disappeared

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