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In an alternate universe, Sana never quit and decided to stick it out and stay.
How different would things be with hololive?
Do you think she would change or stay the same over the years?

>> No.74786260

>>74786088
she'd still stream less than Gura and Ame

>> No.74786315

>>74786088
we might not have gotten holoburg so I don't know.

>> No.74786349

>>74786315
oh fuck, you're right

>> No.74786368

>>74786088
>Irys would probably have stayed part of her own gen
>Sana would almost definitely be part of the Tempus scandal that hit later that year
>She would have got amodel rework similar to irys
Cant think of any other changes desu.

>> No.74786429

>>74786315
What's holoburg?

>> No.74786591

>>74786088
Who? Aloe had a bigger impact than her lmao

>> No.74786799

>>74786088
HoloEN most likely would have kept the same management and not outlawed nepotism, so things wouldn't exactly be better.

>> No.74786995

>>74786315
what the fuck is holoburg

>> No.74787059

[Facts] Sanalite was the worst treated fanbase in Hololive history.

>> No.74787243

>>74787059
In retrospect, her streaming schedule wasn't that bad, at least compared to what gura would become after she left

>> No.74787352

>>74787059
It was also the most artificial.

>> No.74787401

>>74786088
Pros:
More fat brown tits in fanart.
Pako-san's smile is protected.

Based on how Ina turned out, I doubt she would really contribute much to Hololive though.

>> No.74787476

>>74787243
The difference is Gura streamed regularly for 2 years before not streaming while Sana didn't stream from the very start
Gura's absence starting in late 2022 wouldn't have been as pronounced if we had gotten Advent that year instead of homos

>> No.74787525

>>74787476
Gura never had to cope with her dog dying doe.

>> No.74787887

>>74787401
We need more brown girls vtubers, Flare nerfing her skin colour still hurts me to this day.

>> No.74788404

>>74787401
Cover TRIED to get Ina and Sana to do art, the thing is they got the debut art from them, but i dunno how true this is, they are both suppose to be very established artist with quite the workload and Sana especially didnt wanna do art as well in hololive.

>> No.74789204

>>74786088
I would've liked to have seen her interacting with Fuwamoco, she has a similar energy to them but was more willing to troll with people.

>> No.74789253

>>74788404
If you're familiar with Sana's work I seriously doubt she could have realistically kept that up while also streaming and doing art for hololive.

>> No.74789400

>>74786368
>>Sana would almost definitely be part of the Tempus scandal that hit later that year
????????????????

>> No.74789784

>>74789253
Which is ultimately why i think she left, she simply couldnt keep up with the work, this is before council even got 3D and had to travel to JP at least once a year for extended periods for fes recordings.

>> No.74790023

>>74789400
During her graduation she mentioned talking alot with the Tempus boys prior to their debut, she 100% would have collabed with them and been lumped with kronii during that entire fiasco

>> No.74790472

>>74790023
>she 100% would have collabed with them and been lumped with kronii during that entire fiasco
See, that's the thing: WHAT fiasco? You still haven't explained the actual """scandal""".
>inb4 The scandal is that males exist

>> No.74790607

>>74790023
>thinking Sana would handle it as badly as Kronii
It wasnt the collabing part that cause the fiasco, its how Kronii handled it. Bae collabed with them too and nothing happened.

>> No.74790721

>>74790472
The scandal itself was the sheer backlash girls like Ame and Kronii got for interacting with them.
Not saying the males are bad in themselves, but you cant pretend there wasnt a meltdown over what happened cmon.

>> No.74790746

>>74790721
Kronii had more backlash from playing minecraft offstream than from collabing with males.

>> No.74790967
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>>74790746
>Kronii had more backlash from minecraft than the male controversy that got so bad that it prompted her to respond to it several times on twitter, ignited a large exodus of her fans from Hololive to small corpos, and is still talked about on /vt/ to this day
What world do you live in?

>> No.74791003

>>74790967
>large exodus
Yeah just like the large exodus from Fauna after she told you you weren't friends, right?

>> No.74791286

>>74790607
this.
didn't kronii have a member stream where she tried to listen, but then took a break and then decided to womanly twist the knife?

in an alternate world where sana and magni and vesper didn't leave, perhaps tempus wouldn't have their sails kicked out of them.
i wonder if they could have been tardwrangled better.

>> No.74791447

>>74791003
You must have not been around here back in 2022. Both Kronii and Ame's handling of male interactions had longtime fans seething and wanting to find alternatives. Combine that with no gen 3 for that entire year and it's safe to say that time period was one of the very few where /vt/ was united in being anti holo.
Its uncomparable to the nothingburger that was Fauna's "yab"

>> No.74791972

>>74791286
Tempus weren't sabotaged or smothered in the crib by drama, their viewership has remained consistent since debut.
There simply isn't a market for EN Holostars. They were never going to be more than a niche.

>> No.74792181

>>74791447
Ah, fair. Sorry then for spreading misinfo. I only really got dissatisfied enough with shit to come here in 2023.

>> No.74793566

>>74791972
This

>> No.74793597

>>74786088
So the Bad End of Promise is having Sana around.

>> No.74794287

>>74786088
>How different would things be with hololive?
She would be like Gura is now

>> No.74796764
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>>74786088
I think if she had better lore she would have stayed.

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>>74787401
>>74787887
>Sana graduated
>Flare 1.0 retconned
>IRyS 1.0 outdated and upgraded
At this point the only "girl" with melanin is an april fools joke of a homo from last year
And that design is the probably the hottest one, as a viable /choc/ character anyways...
This is practically the design of a tan, mesugaki, demon brat that's begging for correction

ID was always an option for some too but they never went with it for whatever reason
Maybe if Sana stayed, they probably wouldn't feel like darker skin is their Mori Mario Party curse, but what do I know?

>> No.74797546

>>74789400
she literally had holostars en/jp during her graduation stream, follows them in her other account, and talked to the tempus guys before graduation, anon. Also Sana was very outspoken with her chat too. shes a cgdct enjoyer but she was very quick to shut down people trying to tell her what to do during her streams.

>> No.74797596

>>74791972
>their viewership has remained consistent since debut
anon there was a time where Axel was a solid 4view and Vesper was getting 5-9k on his streams. the views have dropped incredibly

>> No.74798742

I do know this: The Palworld stream would've been kino.

>> No.74798801

>>74786315
why not?

>> No.74798875

>>74797596
Turns out Magni and Vesper were highlights in the Holostars EN scene.

>> No.74799415

I will say I liked that when she got into a game, she REALLY fucking got into it and it was a good time.

>> No.74800030

>>74786088
My dick would have been harder longer. She was perhaps the hottest from Council. We need another EN big-breasted, tan/dark skin girl. I want to see those brown tits move in 3D. She was also seemingly very innocent and kind which was nice.

>> No.74802074

>>74798875
pretty much. at this point the only star in EN is Bettel and maybe Ruze but even then the peak of stars EN has passed. get 1k on a stream is a good day for them now when back then Vesper and Magni getting 1k was a sign the branch was reclining.

>> No.74802174

>>74786088
Would she have been a homo collaber or did they just use her graduation as a way to promote DA BOIZ

>> No.74802224

>>74786088
I would have jacked off to her 3D model's sideboob

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74802493

>>74802174
She didnt show interest in collabing with stars JP when she was still around despite her showing them in her graduation stream. dunno how she wouldve been around EN, but something tells me she wouldve done the Shiori route of being amicable but not having a desire to stream with them. From knowing of her for years before the hololive stuff she has no interest in males kek

>> No.74803826

>>74786088
Leave her be, she's fulfilling her artistic vision of toiling in the Chinese gacha mines.

>> No.74804599

>>74803826
She just had her own art gallery in japan...

>> No.74804823

>>74787059
Funny how the only brown EN girl got the worst treatment huh? Just saying.

>> No.74805337

>>74803826
shes living her true dream of doing art for a living so im sure shes very happy yes

>> No.74805522

>>74790023
>fiasco
>only place "people" cared about was 4chan
Nice fiasco you got there

>> No.74805601

>>74792181
Ironic since the post you replied to is the one spreading misinfo.

>> No.74806246

>>74786088
Lecherous 3D debut camera angles
Nerissa gushing over Sana's huge chocolate milkers
More Australia collabs
Ina continues to stream in solidarity

>> No.74807472

>>74786088
We'd have those giant chocotits bouncing in 3D.
She denied us even that...

>> No.74808508

>>74786088
The saddest thing is everyone missed out on 3D breasts with their own gravity field each. Also quite possibly a grown/shrink toggle.

>> No.74808690

>>74786088
She ends up destroying her career anyways she was one of the main tempus supporters in the female branch.and eventually she would've collabed with them and go through the same harassment mori and kronii were subjected to.

>> No.74808782

>>74786088
Promise will not exist and Irys will continue to cling into Council and pretend she's their genmate.

>> No.74810306

>>74786088
I mean if you're using an alternate timeline where she didn't quit, the alternative timeliness could also have the rest of council and myth mass graduate, which would mean she would be like a three view at best

>> No.74812966

>>74786088
I miss her

>> No.74813886

>>74786088
she realized how much fun she could have streaming within the holobox just before graduation so she may have improved after that. she would probably still be relying on bread and beeg though

>> No.74814082

>>74791447
>Both Kronii and Ame's handling of male interactions had longtime fans seething and wanting to find alternatives.
No, five or six autists keep posting about it, most people don't fucking care and it had no real effect on viewership numbers.

>> No.74815975

I feel like Advent wouldn't have an entirely different cast, since Cover wouldnt be burned by the idea of nepotism.
Instead of it being full of former 2views it'd most likely have some of Mori or Kiara's friends

>> No.74817959

>>74815975
So basically more Biboos.

>> No.74818143

>>74798875
>Turns out Magni and Vesper were highlights in the Holostars EN scene.

It's funny, I see this sentiment on here all the fucking time, that somehow these 2 were kino or what they wanted to see in male vtubers or whatever actual praise they give. When in reality those 2 were the biggest assholes of Tempus and went out of their way in the last 6 months to antagonize as many anti's as they could.

And then whenever someone asks what they should have done, they give the old staples (stay in their lane/don't leech/find other people outside Holo to collab with)...that's all shit the other 6 Tempus guys (and now Armis) did and do. They guys who spammed the collabs they hated and did nothing for their own brand? Yeah, that was...Magni and Vesper. Fucking ironic.

>> No.74818654

>>74818143
They can be both assholes and entertaining. In a perfect world/management, their bad sides would get wrangled and their good sides would be displayed.

What's your opinion of Rushia and Coco? And now of Nazuna and kson?

>> No.74819087

>>74797359
Oga's a man of the people.

>> No.74819633

>>74818654
Get the fuck out zhang.

>> No.74819660

>>74802493
I think the only one she might have considered would be Magni, for a one off art stream or something, I could see them vibe over sonic autism

>> No.74820228

>>74802493
Both her and tempus talked with eachother before her graduation.

>> No.74821103

>>74820228
>talking behind the scenes means they will collab
Vesper let out that Mumei talked to them bts as well pre debut but that doesnt mean shit

>> No.74822481

>>74821103
Unicorns are delusional if they really believe that HoloEN was completely ignoring Tempus on their shared discord. Several of the talents have dropped hints they do talk with each other but they have to pretend like that doesn't happen. While model redesigns seem to be the main issue with the EN branch the unicorn pandering is most likely a controversial issue.

>> No.74822619

>>74790023
Naw, sanallites aren't unicorns, mate
>Inb4 literally neighbula

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>>74804599
The priestess sent her flowers

>> No.74825096

>>74822967
I still miss her :(

>> No.74825686

>>74804599
Really? That's fantastic. Really happy for her.

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74825739

>>74805601
Fucking lovely. That's on me for taking anon's word on anything.

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>>74791447
>>74825739

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>>74825096
Me too

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74826423

>>74826096
Tbf, when I watched that stream I thought the same thing. Kronii up until then had always been low energy stoner laughing. But with altare in the dbd collab she laughed harder than before and was getting really competitive.

>> No.74826877

>>74787059
Full of unironic reditards and troons, what a loss...

>> No.74826930

>>74786088
beeg brown breasts bouncing on the stream (in 3D)

>> No.74826994

>>74822619
most sanalites i knew were stars fans for a while (ironically they were fans of magni and vesper) kek

>> No.74829599
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74829599

ok hear me out
You want beeg brown booba. I want more pettan kusogaki. We meet in the middle with a smol mocha frapp.
Pros
>smol jk
>cute
>feisty
>protective
>is into scrawny neets

Cons
>...not mega milk
pic related, she could be like the EN Matsuri

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I'm so sad we never got to see Sana become beeg in 3D

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74831558

>>74826994
yeah, that was me as well. too bad it didn't work out for those two, but i'm glad leader and the dog stuck around to get their 3d.

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