/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

At Nijisanji EN, who is the most fake and who is the most authentic? This is important

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
Rosemi
Rosemi

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
Can you clarify what you mean by "fake" and "authentic"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462254
This. She makes it work.

[Anonymous No.]

Rosemi is probably the most fake in the sense that she's very dedicated to her keyfabe. Whether this is a good or bad thing is up to you.
Finana and Petra are probably the most "real". They tend to give their opinions without censoring them and Finana in particular blurts out things without thinking on the regular. It's kind of her shtick, in fact.
But I don't think any of the girls are better or worse than each other for their levels of commitment to putting on a certain role.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
I dunno about most fake but Elira's pretty genuine

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462264
Which ones are better at faking it than others, probably.

>>7462227
Pomu, Finana, Selen and Pengy come off as sincere, if only because the last one is believably boring.

Weed and Elira seem more like they're punching a clock before pissing off to back to their real lives.

Weed is awful at faking it though, so she comes off as sincerely shallow. That's not a compliment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462380
>Weed
I'm going to start calling you stoner, because you might as well put on a trip with how obvious and obsessed you are with "weed", Rosemi anti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
Selen most authentic. She is just here to have fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462425
>stoner
Woah there, even I wouldn't do that to a chuba. And criticizing an entertainer doesn't equate to obsession or hate. In fact, there's nothing like a good shit post to brighten up the day, my overprotective no fun allowed friend. I think I'll call (You) Stan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462495
Okay Stoner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462506
Stan culture on full display.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462254
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462380
Elira is sincere too, look at it this way, you think she is going to exchange the connections and friends she has done in nijisanji?, also all of them obviously have talked in private discord calls about hololive and they know they are not as talented as the ones on therem, also even tho finana apparently was about to enter holoEN, in this current moment the bar must be sooo high after the success of EN1, so yeah elira is happy to be in Niji cause of friends and cause there is no better option.
Now rosemi to put it simple, has already betrayed a company so its to be expected that she comes of as fake and oportunistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462837
Moving to a different workplace isn't "betraying" a company, faggot Tsunderia manager-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462837
>also all of them obviously have talked in private discord calls about hololive and they know they are not as talented as the ones on there
Meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462902
then tell me what talent they have compared to holoEN, you could only compare them to honestly kiara and ame cause mori(singer,composer), ina(artist), gura(singer,past life success)
the only thing nijiEN has better than holoEN is group collabs and having actual social skills, in that regard they destroy holoEN lineup

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463108
also selen apex but cover doesnt seem to be searching for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462837
>stepping stone company gets used as stepping stone
wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
Fake: Pomu
Authentic: Selen
And yes, I'm a Pomudachi, but even I can tell she hams it up sometimes with being "endearing". I'm okay with it because it fits her character

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463108
Petra, Rosemi and Selen can speak more languages than any HoloEN member. Selen was a top 500 Apex player. Elira, Pomu and Petra are all excellent singers, even if Petra fucked up her debut. Petra was even an utaite in her past life. Elira and Selen are excellent conversationalists and can entertain their chat for hours on end.
To say that they're less talented simply because they're in a different company is completely ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463108
>I know what they're talking about in discord
>source: dude trust me

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463108
It's almost like you need social skills in order to be an entertaining streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463108
Eigo reps, friend. Anyway, this isn't about comparisons. It just the feel you get for how sincerely affectionate, grateful and humble they are towards their audience.

If Elira's actually sincere then she's sincerely...normal, in the fairweather friend sense. But I'm assuming a topic on the parasocial relationship board isn't so much about literal sincerity where they act like they always do in public rather than a chuba being willing to open up to her chat and show some of her more guarded qualities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
Tell me which holo you think is fake and which holo you think is authentic. I can help you once I figure out how you imagine fake and authentic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463212
But it's simply the truth, Hololive EN has proven to feature the best talents in the world at this point and it's hard to compare and compete against them since they're world class.

Gura is a world class talent singer with a god tier charisma
Mori is the best rapper in the world
Ame is one of the best streamers in the world going through many games and showing off her creativeness in making new content never seen before in streaming
Ina is pure seiso herself and her art talent is beyond professional grade
Kiara is not only fluently bilingual but she has the most experience being an idol as well as having the ability to connect to anyone out there

Not to mention they just added Irys who's a world class singer and incredibly talented. At this point NijiEn are all just second class talents who dont have any ability or niche that comes close to HoloEN at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463396
Did you not read what I said at all? I can't even tell if you're falseflagging at this point. What's the criterion here? Petra can speak more languages than Kiara and is a better singer, but Kiara has idol knowledge so she's the better talent?
>Mori is the best rapper in the world
You must be trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463456
Obvious troll is obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463396
If this is your attempt at bait, get better kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462380
t someone who's never watched any of elira's streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462380
Not sure why you're calling Elira insincere, she literally just talked about being an IRL Karen to her ISP

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463396
>not ignoring Ame
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

i only know that she is the best girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463539
I mean...she's not exactly entertaining, and I unironically watch vtubers for entertainment.

>>7463396
>Hololive EN has proven to feature the best talents in the world
If I didn't enjoy shitposting about vtubers so much, I'd already have caught up with my anime and toku reps. There are much more talented performers in the world. They tend to go pro.

Vtubing is more like underground wrestling. Corpos are involved, but it's mostly a bunch of self interested performers looking to earn their keep and maybe use it as an inroad to going pro outside of the usual route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463212
-first of all Petra will never get in hololive in general we all know why (chinese)
-Rosemi : yeah she talks more languages, but kiara does the same while also having previous idol experience of how that world works also abble to connect with everyone (even tho maybe some of them not like her)
-Pomu and Elira: kinda the same, good entertainers and good singers but remember Suisei, hololive tell to her they dont want someone who is good at everything or lots of things they want the best in 1 particular aspect
-Fish: failed holoEN audition so probably wouldnt be able to get in for gen2 or 3 cause after the success of gen1 the competition would be titanic
-Selen: i believe this is the only one that had a real chance at joining hololive in place of Ame, she has a talent the apex talent also being super entertaining and making every game even if some of us hate it enjoyable

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
from most authentic to fake (top to bottom)
selen
pomu
finana
rosemi
elira
petra

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463925
Selen
Pomu
Elira
Finana
Rosemi
Petra

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463913
>first of all Petra will never get in hololive in general
And? That doesn't changer how talented she is. You just keep making excuses for why their talents don't actually count for some inane reason. Petra isn't even a mainlander you moron, she's a Hong Konger.
>hololive tell to her they dont want someone who is good at everything or lots of things they want the best in 1 particular aspect
What the hell are Mori, Kiara and Amelia the "best" at? My god, I can't believe there are actually people in this world that think Mori is the best rapper in the world. She makes ironic weeb music. I don't even think Ledditors are as deluded as you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
Rosemi's the most fake by far no matter how you slice it. Pretty much nothing she says ends up adding up as you watch her and she's very obviously baiting for paypigs while denying any pandering is happening very hard.

Finana or Selen are probably the most real mostly on merit of how little filter either seems to have.

Special mention to Elira who does seem a bit fake but seems to mostly be so because she's taking it seriously as a job and doesn't want to fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463925
You don't even watch NijiEN and I can tell because you have Elira so low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463890
>she's not exactly entertaining
First a stoner, now you're a faggot as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Elira real
Pomu fake
Finana real

Rosemi fake
Petra fake
Selen real

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464028
Finana is very clearly playing a character the thing is she simply a better actress/entertainer than Rosemi.

[Anonymous No.]

>Vtuber
>Real

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464102
>Admits being a rabid lesbo to btfo Unicorns
>Fake
Pomu is just professional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464148
This. Anons are retards and can't tell the difference between professional and fake. All three of Lazulight are genuine, they just remember that they're still technically playing characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464148
Unicorns are /u/fags, though. And she never once insinuated she didn't like men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464022
calm down, Petra may have talent but you know she is terrible at entertaining, there is a lot of threads talking about her being boring
- and for Mori yeah she may not be the best one at rapping and thats obvious it all comes down to personal preference but she composes her own music and has a team behind her (previous life reps) thats a big+ in the eyes of cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464199
The point you were trying to make is that HoloEN has the best talents in the vtubing industry, and that NijiEN falls short of these talents. Petra alone objectively has more talents than Kiara and Amelia. Saying "well they didn't make it into Hololive" doesn't change this. Saying "well she's boring so it doesn't count" is inane and nonsensical. NijiEN is just as talented as HoloEN, tribalism and "not muh idols" be damned. Quit making excuses to attempt justify a view with no merit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464178
This. She's not going to mention on stream that she likes and has dated men. She knows that most people are okay with lesbians

[Anonymous No.]

Selen
Miki aka Rat aka Plant

The others are also rans and the penguin might as well not be in NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

Realest is probably Finana, because she doesn't have the social skills to go "maybe I shouldn't say this on stream."
I don't think any of them are particularly fake. I agree somewhat with other posters that Rosemi is somewhat most dedicated to the Kayfabe, but she's also told plenty of personal stories and already used chat to vent when she had a bad day, so she can't be THAT insincere. Anyone pointing to her having (GASP) multiple past lives as evidence she's fake is retarded.
>>7464314
>She's not going to mention on stream that she likes and has dated men.
Why? She's in Nijisanji, no one would care outside here, same as the lesbian thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464414
Her fanbase comprises of goslings. If she upsets them she would be hemorrhaging viewers and therefor money. It's no accident that she's the top SC earner in her branch and the first to sell out of custom voice packs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464648
Her fans are goslings HERE, and the lesbian thing upset them too. Possibly more than an ex-BF would've, since not all goslings are unicorns. I don't think that had an impact on her decision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464648
She mentioned disliking parasocial shit several times, if people still unironicallt gosling for her then they're brain damaged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
Petra is by far the most fake. She managed to make her voice more fake than Kiara, an impressive achievement.
The most authentic is a bit harder, but I would say Elira, because she doesn't seem to play a character.

[Anonymous No.]

You know we've gone low when people are talking about "fakeness" and "realness" when it comes to entertainers who use anime avatars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
Rosemi
Rosemi

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463396
>But it's simply the truth, Hololive EN has proven to feature the best talents in the world at this point and it's hard to compare and compete against them since they're world class.
Someone actually typed that. I know it's just bait, but I wouldn't be even capable of typing that without killing myself in shame in the process. Very impressive bait anonchama, and thank you for the laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7463925
Found the guy who doesn't watch NijiEN and is just here to shit on every thread.

[Anonymous No.]

fake: rose
authentic: fish

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462876
It is when you plunder the coffers and act like a total shit. Fuck her, she's is a sociopath and hates her fans.

Watch the shit plant go to sony before the year is done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464781
Yea it’s pretty sad honestly. They’re all fake obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know how you can have Elira as the most sincere she makes small lies all the time. You can argue that they are white lies of no big consequence sure, but still not the most sincere
>Pretended to have no knowledge of Twitch, and to have never used it.
>Continued to claim that she wasnt canadian for a while until she donod in CAD
>Pushed a stream so it didnt overlap with Irys announcement, but claimed it took sooo long to download the 1gig game
>Said multiple times she never had any friends. Which of you watched nova just seems like such bullshit, she had so many friends and collabed constantly, and a good chunk of all Nova streams was her talking about her friends and how close she was to her group. And even if you completely disqualify internetfriends, she has talked about other friends. Yesterday I watched the l4d with pika and Pomu and in it Elira talks about how she always used to play that game with her friends from school. So either she is using a very very narrow definition of Friends or she exaggerates a ton.
None of these matter really, except the last one which I got a bit annoyed by, but even if you don't care about them, I still don't think you could have her as the most authentic when every other week she days something that doesn't make Sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464958
>Use resources company provided for you
>This means you are indebted and can't leave the company ever
Tsunderiafags are so delusional, it's not even funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465021
Stop simping for her, she hates you. She is by far the worst person Nijisanji could have picked for anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462876
Shutting down your YouTube monetization before your donations have been processed to the company then forcing them to pay you anyways is "betraying" a company on the other hand. People keep forgetting that it's basically public record that she stole from the company.

[Anonymous No.]

I like NijiEN but besides Selen the newer bunch is just under par. I'm glad Selen is the most successful since she is the most talented. Elira is kinda boring but I can see why someone could like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465070
>Shutting down your YouTube monetization before your donations have been processed to the company then forcing them to pay you anyways is "betraying" a company on the other hand
No, it is not. What she did is equivalent to being trained at a job and quitting on the first day. Inconvenient for the company, but not evil. If you have a problem with this or consider it "stealing" you have severe brain damage. She owes nothing to the fags at Tsunderia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465070
If it's public record then show proof.

[Anonymous No.]

Finana is fake as well, I don't know why people don't think her personality is a character she made up.
People who definitely don't have any patience to play a character are Selen, Petra and Elira, but that just shows being authentic is not always a good thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7464299
>Petra
I would have agreed with you had you said any other NijiEN member. Petra is low tier in any context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465304
She's boring, but objectively talented. Speaks English, Japanese, Cantonese and Mandarin. Good at singing. One of those "good on paper" types. She's fun in collabs too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465354
>Good at singing
No. Not in the least. I don't find her entertaining when she bothers to stream when I am awake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465372
Well we must have different definitions of what qualifies as good in this case. She flubbed her singing in her debut but she's sounded a lot better since she dropped the tryhard moe voice. There's a good reason it's what she was known for in her past life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465182
>>7465186
https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1391225182392655881
With context, this is in reference to Ria's graduation stream. Keep in mind that YouTube generally pays out on the 7th, Ria graduated on the 8th of April, and this post was made on the 8th of May, this means that all of her graduation money likely went towards her May payout.
People who donated to her graduation stream found out they were getting refunds from YouTube due to Ria shutting down monetization. Tsunderia had to clarify that they paid her, but everyone who knows how the payment system works knows that it would mean that they paid her her cut and then received no money from her graduation which means that she straight up stole money directly from the company if she got paid. Not "they invested in her and didn't get a return", but they actually lost money to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465440
>Tsunderia had to clarify that they paid her, but everyone who knows how the payment system works knows that it would mean that they paid her her cut and then received no money from her graduation which means that she straight up stole money directly from the company if she got paid
Not how it works. If you run a business and you pay an employee and that employee fails to earn a profit for you, they have not stolen from you. Tsunderia took a risk by investing in a talent and they lost, simple as. You are so desperate to push this narrative that it hurts.

[Anonymous No.]

Let me preface with this, I don't hate Petra at all. It's just apparent she is very rusty with streaming. She seems a little too insecure at times, and seems lost when the chat is moving fast, which makes sense considering the small size of her past life. She also isn't good at games, so good on her for not picking ones that require skill, even then it isn't as fun to watch her be mediocre at MK8 than it was to watch Rosemi fail at CSGO.
If she is going to grow out of her shell and act the way she did in the MC collab, I look forwards to it, her shittalking is funny and she does it on Twitter too. It's just that her solo streams aren't too fun either in EN or JP. The zatsudans are something to listen to while winding down as she just rambles while reacting to chat. If she's aiming for the niche of quiet vtuber that's fine.
Her singing suffers from nerves, even in her last utawaku, but she improved near the end.
So when anons say she's boring, sorry but but's true. Enjoying boring chuubas is a taste not everyone has. I watch Hajiki and he's a boring motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462227
Petra is honest and true to her heart. Nerves affected her at first and her voice didn't pan out but I will always respect her for being anti-Coco and supporting people going after Coco.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465162
Petra and Rosemi are essentially neutered because they're both Yumejou shitters and it might be difficult for them to stream the content they're actually interested due to both VN devs knowing that their stuff is extremely straightforward in content, and Unicorns that probably seethe at girls enjoying ikemen

[Anonymous No.]

I came here to see people's opinions on NijiEN's group specifically because that's what's asked in the OP.
Can you fuckers really not have a debate about Nijisanji talents only without bringing up Hololive?
I don't even watch Nijisanji and this thread annoys me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7462254
This. It's what makes her great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465551
Anon that is literally how it works. Ria could've done nothing and the company would've earned money off of her. She would have to manually navigate her YouTube settings in order to turn off monetization or delete her account.
No one is talking about the rest of the claims against her. This is a case where there is money sitting on the table, which legally belongs to Tsunderia, and Ria had allegedly received her cut out of it already, before the rest of the money vanished in refunds instead of being paid out.

I'm fairly certain that this is legally actionable by US laws right now and Tsunderia probably just doesn't have the means or desire to pursue it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465012
>Pretended to have no knowledge of Twitch, and to have never used it
Keyfabe
>Continued to claim that she wasnt canadian for a while until she donod in CAD
Keyfabe
>Pushed a stream so it didnt overlap with Irys announcement, but claimed it took sooo long to download the 1gig game
Source: Your ass
>Said multiple times she never had any friends
You answered this yourself. You can easily come to the conclusion that she meant irl friends she was very close with, of which apparently there were none. Stop being so fucking autistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465811
>Ria could've done nothing and the company would've earned money off of her
And yet they didn't due to their incompetent management. Rosemi didn't do shit but change companies and she lives in your head rent free. Amazing. Quitting a job before that job has earned a profit off of you does not mean you have stolen from them. Cope forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465682
Miki's bread and butter is gachikoi retards giving her their paycheck but Petra doesn't seem to be the type to draw them in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465892
Holy shit what the fuck is wrong with Riafags. You're saying that some small bumfuck company should've foreseen that this girl might cancel monetization despite there being no benefit to her if she's already getting her cut so they should've just completely removed her access to her own content and work in advance, when the window she had to fuck them was a month long and we don't know how quickly she cancelled.

There is actual hard evidence suggesting that she stole money from the company. That's a fact. You're moving the goal posts and trying to change the story after asking for evidence now that evidence has been delivered.

How fucking insane are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465985
>You're saying that some small bumfuck company should've foreseen that this girl might cancel monetization
Yes. That is what a competent business needs to do, prepare for all possible outcomes. But we already know Tsunderia isn't a competent company, which is why their talents cry about it on stream.
>There is actual hard evidence suggesting that she stole money from the company
No, there is not, unless you honestly think stealing qualifies as you not earning a profit for a company which it does not.
Your company will never be popular, relevant or even well-run. Go back to poorly attempting to astroturf instead of leeching off of a Nijisanji talent for some semblance of relevancy, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465985
Stealing? Holy shit lol you have no idea how jobs work

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465440
>>7465811
>>7465985
Did they say somewhere that she's the one who shutdown monetization?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm Pomu is now official boys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466258
LETS GOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466184
No but the only other possibility is that for some reason a company decided to refund hundreds or thousands of dollars cutting off their revenue source after handing cash over to a leaving talent anyways.
It's extremely clearcut theft in this case in any country that has digital protection laws. I'm absolutely mindboggled that there are people defending this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466340
So you're just schizophrenic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466340
You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466340
Have you ever had a job before anon, because if what you are saying is true, there would be a major controversy and lawsuit right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466340
>No but the only other possibility is that for some reason a company decided to refund hundreds or thousands of dollars cutting off their revenue source after handing cash over to a leaving talent anyways.
You're assuming that whoever did it (whether it was her or Tsunderia) knew it would refund the money. There's no reason for that to be the case (and I have no clue why YT would work like that), so it's entirely possible it was a genuine accident. Why not include that possibility?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466480
It literally is not true and there is nothing pointing to it but because the IQ of this board is room temperature, he has been repeating this so people believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466524
>Why not include that possibility
He's a butthurt Tsunderiafag, that's why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466367
>>7466395
Let's walk through the chain of events.
>Ria holds graduation stream
>Fans donate money, let's say 1000$
>YouTube takes their cut, then holds let's say 700$
>Tsunderia pays Ria her cut, let's say 350$ in advance
>700$ held by YouTube is legally entitled to Tsunderia at the next payout, meaning Tsunderia profits 350$ and Ria profits 350$
>Monetization on Ria's account is cancelled before payout
>Money is automatically refunded on the system
>Tsunderia loses the 700$ being held for them
>Because they paid 350$ out to Ria, it becomes a 350$ loss. Ria gains that money despite a failure to uphold contract.

>>7466480
Have you ever lived in society before? Legal proceedings are expensive and complicated. Most potential charges are never pressed.

>>7466524
See this one is possible. Everyone else who's denying an event that we can prove occurred is fucking insane.
And I'm fairly certain about two Rosemifags on a crusade because people weren't coming out of the wood works until any real substance came out against her.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466763
>Monetization on Ria's account is cancelled before payout
I hope you realize that YouTube cuts off monetization for no reason all the fucking time and there's quite literally nothing tying Rosemi to it but your own hateboner for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465354
Exactly. objectively Petra, Rosemi and Selen are more talented.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466763
Where does it say in the contract that Tsunderia is obligated to that 350?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466763
Dude, that might be true, but you really do not think that this would have been a major controversy? That is why I disagree

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466763
Why would they pay her in advance? Seem like normal procedure would be to wait until the company gets the Youtube monetization check. That's how Hololive works. Talents don't get anything other than their base salary until like a month in when the first YT checks clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466763
If money was owed on Rosemi's side there is a 100% chance Anycolor would rather pay it than have their talent face legal issues over it, especially if it was >$1000.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466558
If you repeat something enough, people will believe it. If it were true, it would be a major controversy outside of /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7465862
>that she meant irl friends she was very close with, of which apparently there were none. Stop being so fucking autistic.
If you've watched Nova's streams you'd know that she met her internet friends irl too. They've already became irl friends.

[Anonymous No.]

Notice how he's providing 0 proof

[Anonymous No.]

I refuse to play mahjong

[Anonymous No.]

>>that she meant irl friends she was very close with, of which apparently there were none. Stop being so fucking autistic.
>If you've watched Nova's streams you'd know that she met her internet friends irl too. They've already became irl friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7466763
>>>7466367
> >>7466395
> Let's walk through the chain of events.
> >Ria holds graduation stream
> >Fans donate money, let's say 1000$
> >YouTube takes their cut, then holds let's say 700$
> >Tsunderia pays Ria her cut, let's say 350$ in advance
> >700$ held by YouTube is legally entitled to Tsunderia at the next payout, meaning Tsunderia profits 350$ and Ria profits 350$
> >Monetization on Ria's account is cancelled before payout
> >Money is automatically refunded on the system
> >Tsunderia loses the 700$ being held for them
> >Because they paid 350$ out to Ria, it becomes a 350$ loss. Ria gains that money despite a failure to uphold contract.
> >>7466480
> Have you ever lived in society before? Legal proceedings are expensive and complicated. Most potential charges are never pressed.
> >>7466524
> See this one is possible. Everyone else who's denying an event that we can prove occurred is fucking insane.
> And I'm fairly certain about two Rosemifags on a crusade because people weren't coming out of the wood works until any real substance came out against her.

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>>7463832
Fucking based Japs holy shit...
.t teamate

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>>7462837
who woke upp tsunderia's manager ?

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>>7463832
This had to be a bait. Japs love Ame

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>>7466991
Why would they continue with this contract if they know she's owed money and had sketchy activities in previous company?

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>>7470345
Dunno, but obviously they did. If I had to guess, there was some payment required but nothing actually sketchy, and Anycolor wanted her enough to just pay to get her out of the contract.

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>Dunno, but obviously they did. If I had to guess, there was some payment required but nothing actually sketchy, and Anycolor wanted her enough to just pay to get her out of the contract.

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>>7463832
>Multilingual planner Shit bird
Made me audibly kek.

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>>7465610
I kind of admire you for watching Hajime, that's a challenging thing to do.

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>>7476944
like actually
>>7465610
bro nevermind the rest of your post and this thread, what's got you so down in life you feel the need to self harm by watching hajiki???

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>>7476944
>>7477432
It started off as curiosity when I was getting into vtubers because people made jokes about the hate he got, then I ended up watching his zatsudans when my favorites weren't live. I also like low energy streams. I avoid the FPS streams he does like the plague though. He was also pretty funny during the ARK craze with him being an emperor and leading around the little ones.
He's just a guy I keep up to date with, but don't watch regularly especially with the FPS spam
Of course I'm not comparing him to Petra. She's far more livelier than him.

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>One retard gets clapped and half the thread vanishes
Every time

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>>7467063
Okay? That was very recently then and not in reference to how "She never had any friends before".

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>>7462227
Selen is clearly the most authentic. Her deal is playing FPS/Apex and she's a Predator level player.

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Until any of the others tell all their fans that they eat muff, Pomu is by default is the most authentic.

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>>7462254
/thread

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>>7465070
how long are you going to cry little baby?

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>>7465440
You have entirely misunderstood this tweet and it's implications, and you need to go to bed, child. This is a website for ages 18 and up. Thank you.

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Everything a woman presents to you is a lie. Even more so in this situation. You are talking about women who are making a living by emotionally manipulating lonely men. Don't try to sugar coat this.