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These are my rrats

A
>Riku gives up on them
>no more new waves
>the graduation queue is renewed
>most members are gone by 2026
>the last remaining members are merged to the main branch

B
>keep ACCELERATE
but 2% and shitty management
>no one mildly talented will apply anymore
>only 2views dessperate for any exposure
>liver quality decreases
>everyone is a finana

C
>fuck everything
>terminate everyone
>restructure the organization
>start from scratch

>> No.74532427

B until A

>> No.74532750

>>74531985
B, and the only strategy they have with NijiEN is acceleration. They won't fire the toxic livers, they won't replace EN management, so they will keep releasing more waves. Riku doesn't have a clue how to manage a foreign branch so they will never fix anything.

>> No.74532860

>>74532750
Does he manage anything? Why wouldn't he hire someone else who knows what they are doing to do it instead?

>> No.74533054

They will recover once the holobronies stop their harassment campain and everyone moves on

>> No.74533148

>>74533054
Unsubscribing and pointing out hypocrisy in a mongolian pottery club is not a harassment campaign.

Weaponizing your audience to attack a woman on her first scheduled stream back, though? That's a bit more comparable.

>> No.74533449

they are already recovering, hex has higher ccv than pippa today and vox had nearly 1.1k live viewers on a debuff tekken 8 game. some members like kotoka, vanta, wilson, vivi, kunai, claude, bandage and meloco are increasing in subs. luca, shu and ike are still pulling out 40-50k vod views per stream. the branch is not showing signs of it being truly dead yet, as you faggoons would have liked kek.

>> No.74533644

I still haven't gotten an adequate answer as to why there needs to be a thread up 24/7 on the state of Nijisanji.

>> No.74533676
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>>74533449
>vox had nearly 1.1k live viewers

>> No.74533777

>>74533449
>celebrating finana numbers

>> No.74533801

>>74533644
Broken women with nothing else going for them.

>> No.74533949

>>74533801
So if women are the nijiantis spamming these oh no no no le yacht threads and writing fanfic about nijisanji stocks, and women are the nijifags spamming negligible, this entire board is female?

>> No.74534021

>>74533949
yes
>>74533449
>higher Finana than pippa
I thought the coffee merchants were no competition?

>> No.74534103

>>74532750
>They won't fire the toxic livers
Here's go with the assumption that Elira, Enna, Millia, Vox and Ike aren't guilty of anything. You can't fire them, but the public perception is still shit. How do you fix that?
>they won't replace EN management
LMAO, they keep replacing that 3 times per year on a good year.

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>>74533676
>>74533777
so ? 4views ccv is still good numbers for milord. i saw main branch niji deron and hajime both having lower numbers than our liege but you guys just loves to crap on milord more than niji jp livers. biased much ? or you scared that milord is actually a legit threat to your hololive oshis and thats why you guys are targetting him lately with milord's new model ?

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>>74533449
>hex has higher ccv than pippa today
are you sure about that?
>vox had nearly 1.1k live viewers
what the fuck. This can't be real. Wasn't he on par with holoEN at one point?

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>>74534140
>shitting on chadjime, the guy who's been fucking hololive girls since before they were cool and will still be streaming to 50 viewers (all antis) when nijisanji shuts down in 2030

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>>74533449
>hex has higher ccv than pippa
[citation needed]

>> No.74534531

>>74534140
>4views ccv is still good
That's such a cope when he is like half a finana to 3views lmaooo
Even michael cat gets better numbers after the divorce saga

>> No.74534632

>>74534140
>bait this blatant

>> No.74534788

Honestly. I'd rather not have Niji sink. What I want Is for them to be better. To improve and to stop being black. Show a little remorse for what has happened. If they fixed their shit and improved themselves and the treatment of their talents, i would be happy for them. But all that I see is desperation, hiding and doubling down.
>>74534021
Anyone saying that phase is not a threat to nijisanji en is lying to your or themselves. After this fiasco and the success of Gen 3 lifting them up even more, they are right on their coattails.

>> No.74535018

>>74532427
FPBP
Accelerate until new members get so little interest/viewers that it isn’t profitable to launch more. They will think that their classic way works until it doesn’t.

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74535165

Nice fanfiction retard they're already recovering and they've invested too much in sucking EN's dick to quit now because Dragoons got their feelings hurt

When are you going to start doomposting about the Holostars though? They're in pretty bad shape!

>> No.74535342

>>74535165
>mintposting
>mint is currently streaming
kek

>> No.74535595

>>74534467
oops pippa got the better of him and milord today with her phase wars stream but 1.3k ccv is not bad at all, hex can pat himself on his back.
>>74534436
i dont hate hajime, i like him more than the retards that got fired like zaion, selen and gundo :) but hajime is still team E niji main branch unless he can somehow turn into a 3view in the future.
>>74534531
tekken 8 debuff game anon, please understand and kindreds are mostly vod watchers.

>> No.74536236

>>74535165
Nobody cares enough about the homos to even doompost about them
>>74535595
Aren't those spikes bots? For most of the stream he is a 3view

>> No.74536280

>>74535595
Sounds like cope.

>> No.74536505

I really want to bite the bait cuz I want to see what else that faggot anon can come up with, but I'm feeling too much resent and pity over Niji to bother.

>> No.74536702

>>74531985
We'll get a clearer picture when the annual financials come out but I don't think they can afford to merge enough as it's literally their last chance when it comes to overseas expansion.
What I want to happen is a massive structural shake up, removal of shit management and the hiring of actual competent people, removal of brand risk talents - they can be neutral graduations if need be just get rid of them and I want nijiEN to be a viable competitor to holeEN
What will probably happen is B with niji as a whole slowly declining till riku finally decides to bail and sell it to some idiot

>> No.74536846

>>74531985
B then A. It’s the best milking strategy. EN market at this point is past Niji and they are giving no sign of wanting to jump back in. Riku is gonna make sure he gets up to the last cent before dropping them and going back to his Chono concert.

>> No.74536977

>>74533449
>Vox had 1.1k view, we winning
>Pippa during mass cross streaming of Phasewars is a close comparison
Ok, this has to be a trollpost, right? I refuse to believe someone this moronic has not accidentally killed themselves already.

>> No.74537097

>>74535595
>Pippa mogs both of them with mass cross stream over 3 gen debuff.
Grim days ahead when Phase is the one winning even the debuff war.

>> No.74537478

>>74536702
Do you know when the annual financials will come out?

>> No.74537764

>>74531985
The problem is that there's zero to negative growth among nearly all the current talents. Plus, Niji EN's reputation has been tarnished so heavily, that only truly desperate indies would even consider applying -- meaning the quality of the prospects will be much lower. I don't see a future for them, save a complete restructuring.

>> No.74539534

>>74531985
For the next year or so it's going to be a test to see to what extent people forget or move on from the drama. Yes you are going to have a core group who never forget, but through a lack of drama and maybe some nice content for fans (Luxiem and Noctyx 3D, more concerts, nice collab/sponsorship opportunities etc.) I think they'll be gaming out the viability of the branch going forward.

There was already a dramatic falloff last year in terms of new debutes, well before the Selen drama. So they can go a while longer without new debutes without questions being raised. The issue is that any prospective talent now knows that they are in for relentless abuse if they choose to join.

I see it as a higher likelyhood that they fail than succeed, because Niji have consistently shown that rather then manage and develop their talents' skills while offering them new opportunities for growth, they much prefer surprise smash successes that they can exploit out of the gate before wrining them dry and tossing them aside. I hope for the best and prepar for the worst.

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>74535165
>shitposting with Mint of all people
I hope the gullible catalogfags are aware that this is a clear indicator for bait

>> No.74539929

>>74539534
Enna is going to make sure they don't go without drama for more than a week

>> No.74540213

>>74536280
what cope ? milord's vod views has always been steady and good. this drama only damaged our liege's subs amount.

>> No.74540235

>>74532427
Fpbp, however is it possible to get rid of Riku? If a company/individual felt for whatever reason that they wanted to set a shitoad of money on fire, would they be able to buy out Riku's shares? With the way that the stock is going, there has to be a point where the shareholders start going after Riku.

>> No.74540820

>>74534788 #
Also to kept those sister menhera stay there, and nowhere close to holo

>> No.74541286

>>74537478
Probably June 14th through the 16th. Niji releases their financial reports every three months. The last one for Q3 was released on March 14th.

So we got less than two months until then.

>> No.74542158

>>74541286
Thanks I'll make popcorn for the whole board

>> No.74542485

>>74540213
I'm not going to bother checking his stats but you said HoloEN numbers so I'll guess he used to do 10k streams. He has 1k now.
Is a 90% loss in ccv "steady and good"?

>> No.74543014

>>74542158
Not a problem. I wish that Niji streamed their shareholder meetings. It would be assuming to see if anything happens during them.

To give an example, Disney always broadcasts their shareholder meetings where Bob Iger talks about the company's performance. He usually takes some questions from the shareholders and there are times where they do call him out on certain topics. He is usually kinda slimy when he answers their questions.

I would love to see Riku be in a position like that. I know that the Japanese shareholders are too polite to call Riku's crap, but considering how poorly the company is doing stock price wise, maybe someone will say "Fuck It" and tell him off.

>> No.74546945

>>74536236
From what I've heard when it spikes like that it could b e bots or a youtube glitch. Either way it should be ignored.

>> No.74547149

>>74542485
In 2022 and 2023 he had his birthdays reach as high as the mid 20k ccv.
This year? He only broke 4k with multiple raids at once... for less than 8 minutes...

>> No.74547215

>>74531985
Most likely we'll be seeing a lot of graduations for the next year.
Depending on the number of graduations, we could see EN being folded into Nijisanji just like ID and KR.
Then 2-3 years later they'll try to jumpstart EN again.

>> No.74548004

>>74531985
stock delisted, insolvent, restructuring fails, fire sale auction of VOD channels.

>> No.74548437

>>74547215
>Most likely we'll be seeing a lot of graduations for the next year.
call me a schizo but I believe the opposite. Most of the Livers dug their heels in instead of trying to jump ship. We may see a few graduations this Fall. Likely TTT girls. Others unlikely.

>> No.74548771

>>74548004
>fire sale auction of VOD channels.
>Implying that NijiEN channels have any value

>> No.74549105

>>74548771
someone will be stupid enough to buy them.

>> No.74551094

>>74549105
I'll buy up selen's channel in a heartbeat to grab all the membership nonsense again that I missed last time.

>> No.74551458

>>74534788
As long as Riku has a controlling stake in Anycolor this will never happen. He is a pathological shitbag.

>> No.74553581

>>74535165
why do nijiniggers like to use mint photos

>> No.74554115

>>74553581
They're trying to fool people into thinking actual Mintfans think that way, to get the board to hate on Mint. Fortunately they're too fucking retarded to realize how transparent they are being.

>> No.74554244

>>74542485
>milord's vod views last 4 streams : 162k, 36k, 183k, 30k.
thats not bad, sure it would be nice to have big ccv but i rather have a good vod viewership than a botted ccv that wont count to the overall views.

>> No.74555008

>>74549105
I would buy Millie's channel for shits and grins. I will do exactly one stream where I will teach people how to make pagpag.

>> No.74558428

>>74531985
I have a better one.
OP marries an unicorn and have babies.

>> No.74564644

>>74531985
NO FUTURE

>> No.74567683

>>74540235
hostile takeover by another entity buying the majority of shares somehow, as riku has most of them iirc

>> No.74567820

>>74548437
as time goes on i'm believing this more and more. Why rock the boat (by leaving) if something like the branch shitting itself and locking itself out of the western market over that selen stuff didn't affect your bottom line?

>> No.74568048

>>74553581
they were trying with pikamee/henya last i've checked. Or it's the same schizo using them on rotation with mint's

>> No.74568208

>>74542485
the kid has gone out of his way to get rid of his fanbase.

>> No.74568274

>>74547149
Back in 2022 Vox almost got 100k ccv during his 1M endurance iirc
Turns out being a two faced bitch don't pay

>> No.74568788

>>74535595
>oops
Fuck off from here why don't you if all you can do is spread misinformation to cope.
>debuff
Rosemi was pulling big numbers before and Nijisisters were gloating about that alongside their Pokemon perms, Vivi also had a significant boost while streaming it at the time

>> No.74568894
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>> No.74569084

>>74531985
d.
like niji kr and id
>en is disbanded
>they're all recalled to back to being "nijisanji" aka jp
>after a while support for them will be axed, no more updates no more anything so they'll be forced to graduate
>mass graduation

>> No.74569968

>>74568788
bit harsh on milord there, rosemi was playing tekken 8 when it came out and that was before selen got terminated and the nijisanji en message stream from elira that started an internal conflict from the branch. ok, congrats to pippa for winning the ccv battle but her vod total views for that video is still below milord's recent tekken 8 stream. ccv can easily be botted, thats why total legit vod views are more important in the end.

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>>74531985
The future

>> No.74574200

Nijisanji just got mogged by a small ass Hololive concert in Australia. It's over for Nijisanji no one will join them to get non existent 3D.

>> No.74576688

>>74531985
Wait till wosemi leaves. Then you can go all Doompost you'll ever want.

>> No.74577092

Closing or merging the brach is not an option, the best thing you can hope is a rebrand and management convincing the most problematic members to graduate. The most likely scenario is that nothing will change and they will keep trying to milk the remaining fans until the company goes under or gets eventually bought.

>> No.74579723

>>74541286
Probably Friday, June 14, after market close and hoping that the weekend saves their stock performance once more.

>> No.74579998

>>74531985
Seeing what's happening in NijiEN and what people are left there, the only way to "save" them would be just killing off the branch, waiting few years (meanwhile Riku can be hanged publicly and replaced with better CEO) and starting again from zero.
There's nothing to save there, the few "okay" ppl left there are quiet ones that will do what clique will tell them to do to not end like Sayu and Doki.

>> No.74582592

Riku should do what that new corpo is trying. A battle royal where last one standing gets to keep their job and merged into the main branch.

>> No.74584474

>>74576688
God I hope she's getting out of there. Even just lawyering up and walking out without a graduation stream would be fine - I think most people would understand.

>> No.74584697

>>74568788
Nijisisters can't handle the truth.
They can only lie to maintain their sunken cost fallacy.

>> No.74585126

>>74534140
Uhh no? Guy's the golden boy of niji aka the "gura" of niji if he's dogpiling on that shit then there's a problem, don't compare it to the likes of deron who just streams and doesn't care about numbers unlike vox

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>>74531985
>What is the future of nijisanji EN?
I don't care, I want girls, bullies or not, to get out and go get some proper therapy. Niji is grinding them into mental dust.

>> No.74585321

>>74535595
> Mostly vod watchers

Now that's new here I thought vod watchers are rare

>> No.74585731

>>74585284
>One must imagine Reimu happy

>> No.74585777

>>74531985
I have a better idea
Since nijisanji claims that instead of going to expand west they're just gonna hire more people why not just converge EN the ex-ID and ex-KR branch into one Foreign Branch? I mean they're EN twiiter account is called Nijisanji World why not just make it the new branch?

>> No.74586093

>>74531985
I have a better idea
Since nijisanji claims that instead of going to expand west they're just gonna hire more people why not just converge EN the ex-ID and ex-KR branch into one Foreign Branch? I mean they're EN twiiter account is called Nijisanji World why not just make it the new branch?

>> No.74586276

>>74585284
Can't wait to not see her attempt to push the rock. Attempt...lmao.

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>>74532427
This pretty much desu

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>>74531985
Best case scenario: they get absorbed into main branch and go the KR/ID route where nobody gives a fuck about them until they graduate
Worst case scenario: pic related

>> No.74593031 [DELETED] 

>>74531985

>> No.74593614

>>74588867
I miss Noor's design man

>> No.74595442

>>74531985
all of the above

>> No.74596322

>>74534103

>Here's go with the assumption that Elira, Enna, Millia, Vox and Ike aren't guilty of anything. You can't fire them, but the public perception is still shit. How do you fix that?

a simple apology to Dokibird for starters but it's obvious they don't want to do that, they would rather suffer trough harassment and embarrassment of their company than simply apologizing since they are acting like victims in this whole thing.

>> No.74602566

>>74596322
No one cares about Selen

>> No.74606543

>>74531985

>> No.74610434

>>74531985

>> No.74613423

>>74531985
B

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>>74531985
None of the above. Instead they'll take a fourth option:

D
eeznuts
>portions of the other three options, but not the complete set of any one of those options
>no one mildly talented applies anymore
>no more new waves, despite the desperation of the small handful of 2view applicants
>graduations and terminations resume, potentially beginning with Kotoka's upcoming departure in early May
>everyone continues doing their streams and pretending that nothing bad has happened or is happening, despite the evidence of their own eyes and ears
>everyone continues doing their streams and pretending that everything is normal, until and unless management published their respective graduation announcements
And then the Q4 report is published in June
>then either fuck everything, terminate everyone, picrel

>or everyone continues doing their streams and pretending that everything is normal, until the shareholders meeting in July
And then the shareholders meeting in July happens
>fuck everything, terminate everyone, picrel

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>> No.74619723

>>74531985
I'd say it will go like this:
>coast until week or two before annual financials to see how far EN has fallen
>if outlook is terrible (99% sure that's the case), merge into main branch with no more support to EN (same as it was with ID and KR)
>mass graduations after that due to contracts expiring and talents just leaving

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>>74535165
>Holostars
Sister you clearly don't see the Stars strat at play. It's already over for Luxiem and they'll only feed into making Stars stronger
>NijiEN forces Ike to do blackscreen and he was devastated
>Ike is still thought to be innocent and forced after the whole thing
>Hakka befriends Ike and comforts him
>throws him some collabs that puts him in a good light in these trying times
>Vox and Luca are slowly perishing and Mysta already gone elsewhere
Ike will eventually be convinced to join Stars, play the victim card and pull many of the Nijifans with him. Stars will then complete their sweep of the maleEN market.

>> No.74619854

Had to go to bed last night after the free dreamhack thing. Did the boys concert save NijiEN?

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