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Why do /here/tubers never go well?

>> No.7268765

>>7268735
Because all 3 sucked and you guys have bad taste. They were never good and you guys just liked them because you feel like you got acknowledged.

>> No.7268793

>>7268735
Wait what did koopa do?
And Beatani is still based she just realized letting schizos dm her was a mistake

>> No.7268939

>>7268793
Koopa fucked one of her gosling turned vtuber and handled the fan pushback really poorly.
Bea started her discord yesterday and one of her paypig gosling just turned into a vtuber with her support.

>> No.7268946

>>7268735
Because 95% of their potential audience will stop watching them once they realise that their fanbase is from 4channel. And it's pretty understandable.

>> No.7268969

>>7268735
1 and 3 are still pretty good
Delusions of a few schizo in this mongolian basket weaving forum don't really matter much

>> No.7268979

>>7268735
green hair. never trust a woman with green hair.

>> No.7268980

>>7268735
Green women bad.

>> No.7268984

>>7268735
All vtubers make some kind of misstep in their carrer. I don't see anything special.

>> No.7269022

>>7268735
Because using 4chan and having the mental fortitude to deal with a fanbase of anons are two completely different things.

>> No.7269041

>>7268793
She made a weird shitpost and her schizos have been clinging to it for months

>> No.7269044

people who are /here/ are typically not mentally well

>> No.7269069

>>7268939
>Koopa fucked one of her gosling turned vtuber and handled the fan pushback really poorly.
It's astonishing that /wvt/ can push rrats comparable to /hlgg/ in retardation despite being 10% of its size in population. I swear every time I check there's some new insane bullshit, I guess that's what having a homebase on /trash/ with no moderation does to you.

>> No.7269385

>>7268735
It's hard and exhausting to manage a 4chan fanbase. Sure the unfiltered feedback is a plus, but at what cost. At some point the schizoposting is too strong and the vtuber starts reading less, which leads to more schizposting and them more and more retreating to other places that are less of a pain, with the downside of basically stayig with yesmen.

>> No.7269396

>>7269069
They even have dedicated people going as far as to manipulate evidence to push their narrative, it's just another level of insane.

>> No.7269405

>>7268765
Bingo

>> No.7269420

>>7268735
>person who allowed /vt/ to push her around and wised up to it
>
>person who revels in letting /vt/ push her around but went in too far
And then there's those two girls, the ghost and bunny, who anons are hosting a 24/7 grooming general for.
The reason why they all suck is because the chuuba being /here/ means she has direct access to (You) turning threads into a direct messaging center, aka DISCORD. You only like them because they give you more attention than a SC or chat message could give.

>> No.7269422

>>7268939
>Koopa
>Literally zero dislikes on recent videos because of how literally who she is
Anon of something like that happened surely there'd be comments or dislikes relating to it.

>> No.7269423

>>7269069
Far from the first time too. They're willing to push vtubers to retire unironically with fabricated rrats if they can. It's the effect of such a small echo chamber where if someone is repeated enough everyone starts believing it and any opposite opinion is put on some boogeyman. Pretty scary stuff.

>> No.7269429

>>7268735
Eilene...

>> No.7269440

>>7268765
fpbp

>> No.7269443

>>7269429
Moe...

>> No.7269447

>>7269422
No, people who disliked just left, no reason to waste your time goig to every stream of a vtuber you don't like anymore just to hit the dislike button
Plus youtube doesn't even show dislikes anymore right

>> No.7269458

>>7268979
>>7268980
Blue women will always be superior.

>> No.7269476

>>7269420
This. It turns this place into discord for autists, groomers and LARPers

>> No.7269486

>>7269476
That's what /vyt/ was back on JP and that's what /wvt/ always have been until it became 70% posters being vtubers jerking each other off

>> No.7269503

>>7268735
schizos/saviorfags never learn, they get dumped by a new indie every season as soon as she can get in with the normie and woke crowd.

>> No.7269522

>>7269486
/vyt/ threads before /vt/ was made had some disgusting and manipulative shit going on in there...

>> No.7269528

>>7269522
It was a common thing to "hide your indie" sometimes there

>> No.7269539

>>7268765
Fpbp

>> No.7269560

>>7269522
>>7269528
I remember those. Good thing that groomers now have a bunch of 4chan vtubers so they leave the jp indies alone.

>> No.7269568
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7269568

Some chuubas are here but dont selfpost and follow chan culture. Pic maybe related.

>> No.7269599

>>7269568
Please don't post CEO in a shitpost thread, she deserves better.

>> No.7269781

>>7269568
Most EN chuubas visit, or their mods do. Once in a while someone references something that hasn't really leaked past /vt/ but eh, who knows what they get out of it. Though it is a bad idea to probably kotow to 4chan's demands.

Though, a chuuba being a commentator on the next 4/CC would be kinda fun

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7269813

but temako has been great i enjoy her streams

>> No.7269844

>>7268735
Because no one here actually watches VTubers

>> No.7269863

>>7269420
>24/7 grooming general
>neither have a thread
ogey

>> No.7269894

>>7268765
/thread

>> No.7270073

>>7268765
Savage but accurate

>> No.7270187

>>7268765
this lmao
koopa just hijacked a concept and appealed to desperate retards whose only exposure was hololive EN, then made a circlejerk discord of her most loyal followers and abandon the threads with them
we all know how the gypsy shit went down
bea is getting groomed by yellow fever faggots who left /wvt/ after the majority of the people there are self posting chuubas and discord cliques became normal

>> No.7270226

What happened with middle

>> No.7270229

>>7269863
Because it's bedtime in America, I was exagerrating but they have regular threads despite there being no content. 100 posts to discuss a tweet.

>> No.7270276

>>7270226
Got caught doing underage, fanfic, roleplay with some french faggot. Got called out by some flip ninja vtuber. Same french guy has latched onto the one on the right now.

>> No.7270278

>>7270187
Koopa made the discord after the threads were completely unusable by schizo raids, also for watchalong and multiplayer games. And she has directly answered to posts in threads while streaming. She's linked to 4chan as she's spent most of her time here in various boards and it's not like she's going away. Personally I appreciate oldfags who remember the good ol days after 9/11.

Bea seems crafty and aware enough to handle the groomers.
Chernobyl reactor was a complete shitstorm though.

>> No.7270323

>>7270278
>koopa inner circle still at it
Anon... stop...

>> No.7270356

>>7270276
>Zia still hasn't learnt his lesson
That idiot is on the fasttrack to prison time, what a twat.

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7270465

What about small company /here/ chuubas like Pippa or most of Tsunderia? They seem to be doing fine.

>> No.7270538

>>7270465
Pippa wants to collab with Beatani, and Beatani seems receptive.
https://twitter.com/beatanichisato/status/1421072947947597829?s=20

>> No.7270574

>>7268735
>Why do VTubers from the cespit of the net not do well when the majority of the world is normalfuck?
GEE I FUCKING WONDER?! WHAT A MYSTERY?!

>> No.7270598

>>7270229
I went into the archives and found the single Nadeshiko thread in it, and it was a stream, two in fact because it's a pretty slow general. The stream, aka content, was talked about and the thread eventually hit bump limit, there was some random twitter shit from some retard posting DMs that lasted for the last 50 or so posts of the thread as a result of some fanart. As for the bunny I couldn't find any, looks like they get deleted on the regular so you could be right about her. She has posted a video or two though. Nade's not posting as much in the threads, and doesn't even post on twitter too much, so it seems she's smarter than a lot of other vtubers /here/.

>> No.7270664

>>7270598
Bunny is deleted often because it's basically a thread orbiting a tweeter. Just today there was a thread with just a screenshot of her tweet. I saw the threads where they groomed her into getting on Twitter and starting a Youtube. She'd just post as an anon wondering how vtubing worked and didnt get a name until a week later.

>> No.7270702

>>7268735
Its almost as if interacting with subhumans posting here is not a good thing

>> No.7270719

This thread's been an interesting read.
Always just figured anyone from here trying their hand at bringing a character to life was in it to rack up experience in case they get the opportunity to take it to another level.
Like most of Holo/Niji EN just started out small and found varying success up until joining a more sustainable operation, right? Actually, did Ina even really stream before? Probably her art process.

>> No.7270790

>>7270719
Ina was streaming on twitch to 20 or so people yes, even had a few virtual avatar.

>> No.7271000

>>7270790
Thanks for the insight.

>> No.7271344

>>7270598
Nadeshiko is probably the nicest /here/tuber, not that that's saying very much. She genuinely likes streaming even as a poorfag kid & cares about her audience. She's more or less the ideal vtuber to watch if you care about a self-improvement journey - has a lot of unrealized potential in entertaining, singing, & whatever else she puts her mind to.
She's gonna stream soon if you want to check out her content. Max SOVL time: https://youtu.be/SEM1EygdbW0

>> No.7271382

>>7271344
Too bad her mic is so garbage, I can barely understand her

>> No.7271440

>>7271382
Idk why either, it sounded clean as hell when she recorded. Either way I'm saving buxx for when she opens donations to get her something decent.

>> No.7271463

>>7268735
There are tons of heres, it's just /vt/ favorites that suck ass. Terrible /wvt/ taste

>> No.7271767

>>7269781
>Though, a chuuba being a commentator on the next 4/CC would be kinda fun
Wouldn't happen in a million years, take meds please

>> No.7271971

>>7271767
lots of people hate vtubers so I don't think it will happen, but I can see some /vt/ promo made by koopa or beatani, since they are aware of the league

>> No.7272232

>>7271344
Peak groomer post, you even call her a kid. You only care about her because she replies to you, direct contact with an (underage) girl.

>> No.7272315

>>7269599
It's what happens since she is friends with her.

>> No.7272944

About time that /vt/ got a groomer general

>> No.7273395

>>7270323
Koopa is in her threads ya goof. Your rrat has no power here!

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7274361

Everything was going fine until the Gauls showed up in two of those cases. It's the Romans' fault for not ethnically eradicating these subhumans.

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>>7274361
Woah, I didn't know she became a vtuber too!

>> No.7274861

>>7268735
i miss carol

>> No.7274877

>>7272232
This. It's a ticking time bomb too.
She's pretty obviously lying to them about it all anyway and these desperate losers believe her. She's very clearly not Japanese, SEA with Japanese knowledge and very much over 18.

>> No.7274909

>>7268765
Pretty much this.

>> No.7275024

>>7268765
fpbp

I still think it's cool that /here/tubers exist at all, but yeah, their appeal wears out quickly and it never takes me long to realize that there isn't much beyond the surface. Makes me feel a little embarrassed that I'm pandered to so easily

>> No.7275162

>>7268735
koopa is the one that hurts to most, nobody ever cared about the pedo girl and bea is still doing fine

so much lost potential in koopa, but i don't blame her really. she found something that makes her friends easily, which she may well have been lacking in up until this point. i'm happy for her but i haven't watched her streams or followed her for a pretty long time now because her entire community at this point feels like a discord circlejerk

>> No.7275448

>>7268735
>Carl is /here/

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>>7275448
Carl was /here/
She may still be here but she doesn't stream anymore.

>> No.7275592

>>7275162
I pop in now and then because otherwise my productivity will suffer, but isn't it only natural to recognize people if you have a relatively small community and as always regulars are smaller than that? And you actually like the idea of community game nights? I even remember in that last one, some C&C shooter mod, she was telling people to take it easy if the game doesn't suit them since they'll play other things in the future.

>> No.7275613

>>7268765
This, i'm glad i jumped out of the beatani ship when i realized things were going south with the constant menhera episode.

>> No.7275708

what doesn't go well is anons spamming these threads every time a /here/tuber dares to do anything besides stream and post anonymously in their general. At least own up to being buttblasted over them trying to get more than 100 average views instead of acting like it's the next nyanners every time

>> No.7275736

>>7268735
Cope, seethe amd dilatate all three are great and i enjoyed watching carol a lot

>> No.7275776

>>7268765
Koopa never has been a good entertainer, yeah, if anything, her threads were probably better then her streams. Carol is more like one time joke, there's not really much do discuss. But Bea, despite /yah/ being a total garbage and dads pure fags, is interesting to watch herself, just because she doesn't really care about anyone who watches her and does whatever she want's.

>> No.7275822

>>7268735
I noticed this problem on both here and reddit /here/ posters, I'd say it's because they're in closed communities.

Anyone here remember comdost, sure went places when they hooked up with someone else with a small if admittedly niche fanbase, and now seemingly standing alone but with a decent audience.

I miss their free art and shit but it's for the best moving in with the twitter and twitch crowd, more visibility on twitter even though you need to keep in with the good crowd, and twitch seems to server them better than youtube

>> No.7275939

>>7275776
Yeah, Beatani is a pretty good watch. Her fans are insufferable though

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>>7271767
a chuuba has alredy been a /v/ awards host, anything can happen

>> No.7275996

Are you fags retarded or something?
You guys know that 4chan loved nyanners for being /here/ and then hated her leaving but then you let history repeat itself.
Being /here/ is only temporary until you actually get people in you life you tend to leave this place behind for my stable people who wont schizo out on you for minor to no reason.

>> No.7276036

>>7275592
you're not wrong, which is why i said i don't blame her, i think most people would adapt to her circumstances very similarly. most people aren't built to be entertainers, streaming to a regular audience while keeping relative distance and treating them all as equals even though you're more familiar with some than you are others. i just miss the early months following her debut where everyone in her chat was equally unknown, all pretty much strangers. i don't think she's a bad person or a bad streamer, just doesn't have the mindset to keep all of her viewers at arm's length is all

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7276103

can you tourists leave already

>> No.7276123

Because they pander to <300 mentally-ill retards. What do they expect? That as long as they got the subs Youtube algorithm will be more favorable?

>> No.7276191

>>7275954
pink cat...

>> No.7276210
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7276210

if you all hate this site then why are you here

>> No.7276265

>>7276210
I've been trying to leave for 15 fucking years.

>> No.7276395

>>7276210
hell is real and its this site

>> No.7276556

>>7276103
kyou mo chiisai

>> No.7276570

>>7275996
tourists really simplify how thoroughly nyanners burned every bridge she could find on her way up, which leads to the schizoing every time a femanon tries to grow her career past this website

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>>7276556

>> No.7276629

>>7276600
Just turn up your volume!

>> No.7276638

>>7268765
>>7268735
i call samefag

>> No.7276658

>>7276638
smells more like a discord thread to me

>> No.7276665

>>7268765
Fpbp

>> No.7276757

>>7276638
It's probably Carl herself shitposting.

>> No.7276761

>>7276210
You're here forever, my friend. Like it or not.

>> No.7276834

>>7272232
She's 14, of course he'd call her a kid.

>> No.7277070
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7277070

If you are a chuuba who turns 'goes on /vt/' into your personality, you are a failure. There is no bigger faggotry than flouting a secret club membership so everyone else who also flouts their secret club membership can see. It's worse than taking it to Reddit and it's worse than talking about it in stream chats, because the streamer is held to a higher standard than the idiot consumers.
To note that the three in the OP have imploded for other reasons is indicative of their gross misunderstanding of how things work to be a chan chuuba.

>> No.7277238

>>7271767
Beatani already broke the ice by restreaming a match, causing a domino effect is not excluded.

>> No.7277256

>>7275822
Yeah, I'me surprised how far comdost got, I was a lot into Eilene 3~5 years ago and I remember comdost being one the top orbiter and included in a few projects, then did a few scuffed streams with some weird voicechanger. Nowadays she streams regularly to like 70~100 people which is very good for indies, and have a very clean Speech to Text to Speech and good model.

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7277339

>>7276210
I literally can't leave
I hate it here but there's nothing for me outside

>> No.7277378

>>7277238
And she wanted to do the other but overslept and now /vt/ is eliminated.. life is pain

>> No.7277385

>>7269069
She pretty much confirmed that's what happened though

>> No.7277419

>>7277339
>he's not preparing to go to the official Polka meet and greet
do it

>> No.7278259

>>7274861
Same, she was a retard but she was at least fun. Fuck Zia for ruining everything.

>> No.7278336

>>7275996
>You guys know that 4chan loved nyanners for being /here/ and then hated her leaving but then you let history repeat itself.
Lurk at least 2 years before posting

>> No.7278401

>>7277385
I'm sure there's plenty of evidence to support that and that it's not just another samefaggingg schizo replying to himself like that Kratos faggot.

>> No.7278448

>>7278401
Just read between the lines in her response

>> No.7278832

>>7278259
They didn't even interact for like a month and it was going fine before the other vtuber started his whole twitter thing

>> No.7278882

>>7278448
Meds

>> No.7278937

>>7278448
I don't even know what response you're talking about because I don't go out of my way to keep up with this faggotry.

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>>7277070
This, the best /here/ chuubas are ones like Selen who barely acknowledge it beyond a few random throwaway references to indicate awareness that this site exists.
The moment they start pandering to this place is when all the schizos and groomers show up to ruin their content and they stagnate to only attracting the 10-40 viewers that post in their groomer threads.
Especially since anyone that's been here longer than 5 years finds that kind of containment-breaking behavior to be really cringe and doesn't like being pandered to. So even by trying to be a /here/ chuuba your only audience are underage tourists who get easily obsessed whenever they find out a girl visits 4chan, like the autistic kid in school who never shuts up about 4chan memes the moment someone acknowledges awareness of his jokes. Literally the same mentality we shit on redditors for regurgitating the same 5 jokes constantly.

>> No.7279778

>>7279260
based and anti-pander pilled

>> No.7279913

>>7275822
The problem with comdost is that the ES vtuber cartel led by Niwatori is trying to kill them

>> No.7280007

lets crowdsource a vtuber

>> No.7280058

>>7275584
>>7275448
She was for like a week or two before menhera'd out of reading the threads, I recall on her last month that whenever she saw anything related to 4chan she had flashbacks and mental breakdowns.

>> No.7280277

>>7279913
I remember seeing some allusion to that story but it was out of nowhere with little context and was impossible to understand

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>>7268735
Pippa seems to be doing fine.

>> No.7281337

>>7281275
The benefits of having a manager.

>> No.7282273

>>7278401
It was fucking obvious from what she responded to and how defensive she was in her pastebin and in her posts here. If she never said anything you people could have easily pretended your chuuba did nothing, but she's too fucking stupid to keep her mouth shut

>> No.7283032

>>7277070
Ouch I feel Rokko/Gael/Melchior/Spooki/Rin getting called out on this.

>> No.7283259

>>7275996
A lot of people hated Nyanners when she was here, it was mostly the anti-weeb types that were on /v/. She always was a controversial figure around these parts even before she abandoned this place.

>> No.7283517

>>7283032
Best of /wvt/

>> No.7283992

>>7268735
Alright, let me break it down for you. 4chan humor is brutally honest and derisive. Trying it in public is bad for PR, hurting growth and appeal. Slight pandering while trying to also be a normie tier only makes you look like a flaming hypocrite.

There's also the fact that 4chan is traditionally an incel site. It was primarily targeted at westernmale otaku, lolicons included. I wouldn't be surprised if there's still a furry thread on /b/ at this very moment. The kind of chubas who come from here don't realize that being a woman or one of the guys doesn't mean you're exempt from the same criticism directed at all media and content creators discussed on 4chan.

What 4chan wants and expects from here's are successful, skilled chubas who only make occasional small, distinct dogwhistles to 4chan memes or rrats. If a chubas only appeal is being from here then it's a non starter, as we already interact with and get (You)s from other anons for free whenever we post on 4chan.

Membership in the secret club is just supposed to be the cherry on top of an appeal sundae. If there's nothing in the bowl but said cherry, anons would rather just have a sundae without one. Knowing about vt isn't really important. If anything, being able to learn and grow from criticism is more for the chuba's benefit than our own.

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