Hololive fes favouritism

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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree there was major Suisei favouritism in play?
>final day
>final solo
>medley
>final duo
>final MC
>gets to make a hag cry on stage

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She earned all that.

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nothing new, didn't she appear on both days during 4th fes too? or maybe it was the EN concert. some concert anyway.

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Nigger

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Yeah and her suddenly reading out a letter for AZKi was kinda weird. It really just seemed like she did that for brownie points.

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>>71753782
She worked for it.

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>>71756045
>Wants to thank the reason she's even where she is in front of the largest audience both of them can possibly get
>Weird

Are you stupid

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>>71753782
I’ll forgive it once we finally get a company event that’s Marine centered. And no, Blue Journey doesn’t count.

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>>71753782
And all of it was earned.

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>>71758460
Why not? Blue Journy was a nice concert and the outfits don't get as much love as they should

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Suisei is the ace of Hololive.
Miko is the protagonist of Hololive.

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>>71760151
Pretty much

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>>71753782
first holofes?
enjoy your miComet finisher in x years

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>>71753782
She deserves the favoritism.
>>71760151
And thats why they are girlfriends.

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I mean, the INNK was absolutely kino and deserved to end the show.
I admit I was a bit miffed that Sora wasn't the one closing the HoneyWorks concert though. Feels like a waste.

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>>71763623
It just works

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She's easily their biggest star despite what some other talents' subscriber counts may indicate. You can say Pekora, Sora or Miko is the face of the company, but she's literally their Ace. They go to her for all their biggest events. Look at the past Holofes, Summer and New Year events.

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>>71764043
Sora's song didn't have closing energy though

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>>71753782
You are a retard. A FUCKING RETARD.

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>>71753782
Same as last year fes lol
She even appeared on day 1 for shiraken

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>>71764043
>Honeyworks stage was all about “school life RP”
>Suisei’s song is about graduating school and going forward to the next step in life

I wonder why she was last

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>>71765160
You're joking, right?

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>>71764043
Everyone felt the same about the Honeyworks stage, even Suisei, Suisei's performance was good but Sora's performance was just on another level

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>>71753782
but she wasn't the only one with a medley. i do wish cover would allow more holos to make a hag cry on stage though, very true. they need to do something about that.
(also i don't know why people feel like having the last song is such a big deal personally.)

>>71764043
even suisei talked about how that felt odd but i guess at the end of the day the producers felt like the high school graduation-themed song was better suited for a closing act.

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>>71760151
You're not wrong

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>>71753782

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>>71765160
kys

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>>71753782
not favouritism if it's deserved.

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>>71753782
It's called meritocracy.

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>>71753782
That Capture the Moment ended with an emotional moment with AZKi elevated what was already a great holofes to one that for me will remain unsurpassable for years to come.
I love this hag and I love Suisei for writing that letter to her.

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>>71753782
Timestamp?

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>>71759964
Just wanna say I really respect artists that actually draw out plaid clothing instead of just using a flat texture with the fill tool.

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>>71753782
Say it with me:
PRIDE
OF
HOLOLIVE

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>>71753782
>Most successful concert performer in Holo
Mfers really think it's not a good idea to make her the finisher of a concert coz favoritism. Keklel

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Don't forget she appeared in 2 stages for Holofes last year. She got an extra cameo for the Shiraken group song. No one gets this much attention as her from Cover.

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>>71753948
>>71756687
How? And what is different with her?

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Lmao what is this bait thread about Suisei

She is literally THE singer of Hololive. She even voluntarily go to 1st stage in 4th fes because she wanna join with Shiraken and she was ready to make staff greenlight her decision if they decline it

You would be absolutely fucking retarded if you think the staff would try to nerf her ass just because some fear-mongering of "muh favoritism" when in reality the members themselves would have 0 problem about it

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>>71753782
I think you should get the final curtain call if you had earned your sweat over the past year, and AZKi as well. That was the best ending the festival could've asked for btw.

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>>71753782
maybe this will feel like doomposting but am I the only one who got "retirement soon" vibes from the Suisei-AZKi moment back there? like its heralding the end of an era and they're pretty much achieved everything they wanted to do in Hololive. Something like that dunno.

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>>71753782
And all the HoloChads cheer for her continued success.
So does the other talents, they respect her.
It's not Niggersanji, they actually care about each other.

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>>71753782
Some of it also has to do with how much work she personally wanted to put into the concerts. I'm sure a lot of holos are fine with just 1 song + the major group songs and maybe some would even prefer to do less, but suzy wants to sing.

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>>71790807
the fact that she simply asked to be in day 1 of holofes and she was allowed made a bunch of holos go "wtf I didn't know I could even do that". this year it looks like a few of them actually realized that means they could ask for things and chances are cover would have no problem, which is why there were a handful of holos who did medleys instead of single songs (and apparently they came up with that independent of each other).

I do wonder why the fuck when a holo asks for something and cover says yes they won't tell the other holos that they can do it too.

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>>71792366
They (Holo gen 0) have been around for almost 6-7 years, and they even outlived Kizuna Ai

They will graduate sooner or later, and I will be impressed if they can make it to 10th year. My only wish is that they will have a happy ending instead of abrupt termination like Mel

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>>71789576
watch streams.

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>>71753782
Yes, Suzy is the protag of Hololive, deal with it chud.

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>>71793484
Suisei breaks the mold of course.

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>>71753782
Idk but id rather listen to 10 other girls sing than Suisei. Shes so boring she has no variety in the way she uses her voice

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>>71765160
Kys faggot

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>>71793484
>which is why there were a handful of holos who did medleys instead of single songs
Did they talk more about what gave them this idea?

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>>71753782
You're a jealouse motherfucker. You deserve to get sacked hard.

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>>71756045
>It really just seemed like she did that for brownie points.
You somehow have it completely backwards. This was a total power move on Suzy's part.
>You know how your shitty little defunct music group totally fucked me over while you didn't lift a finger to help me when I needed it? Well, the tables have turned, now I cab force you to perform WITH ME as the ending performance and am going to publicly forgive you in the biggest spectacle possible just because I have that much power over you now.
AZKi fears the Suicock, that is why she was crying.

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>>71753948
>She earned all that.
Yes, she earn all those sweet profit
We have gone past the stage of pretending Suisei favoritism is because she work for it
Because if we go with your logic, you're implying there was no Suisei favoritism in the past because she didn't work for it

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Ngl, it's kinda funny how much they exaggerated this "INNK bond", Suisei was on INNK only like 6-7 months, not even a year before she plans to graduate then got transferred to Hololive with A-chan help and afterwards they barely interact either, there is no real "long lasting friendship" element but it's great for the show I guess to make their performance "memorable"

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>>71753782
keep yapping sister your nijicocks will never reach this favoritism they can cope on 2nd place where they belong

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AZKi didn't have to let Suisei into Shitest Start

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>>71753782
context
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Um1Ra8LAF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Um1Ra8LAF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Um1Ra8LAF8

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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that there was major Messi favouritism in play ?

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>>71756045
?

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>>71753782
Deserved. AZKi and Suisei are arguably the most talented singers in Hololive AND they have history together dating back to Cover's little project INNK Music, before 0th Gen was even a thing. I've been wanting Sui+AZ to happen for years now and it seems like SorAZ or DeathStar was all we were going to get anymore, this was fucking great. Think of all the oldfags who weren't expecting this finale and all the newer fans who never heard that song before hearing it for the first time. It was the right choice. As for the rest of the "Suisei favoritism" idk stay mad I guess.

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>>71793725
Nothing there that a lot of holos don't already do. Explain the favoritism please.

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>>71756045
Tourist-chama...

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>>71753782
Suisei is the best

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>>71801638
Penaldosister, slay!

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>>71753782
They deserved that, and honestly letting the best singer perform last is the right move

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I had always hoped for Last Frontier to close out a HoloFes concert and I finally got my wish.

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Suisei is the best!

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>>71753948
fpbp

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>>71805912
Tourist-chama... your reps are lacking...

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>>71805912
Do you know so little about Cover that you don't understand the significance behind the INNK pair and that letter? Or the significance of the lyrics they changed in Final Frontier?
It's a year late, to be sure, but still an emotional re-reunion to a lot of long-time Hololive fans. AZKI's finally home.

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I’m in Tokyo right now and had tickets to Day 1 Stage 2, and can’t explain to you how disappointed I am in the entire experience. I get to the venue and see the sheer amount of people and expect to have the worst seats imaginable. But surprisingly enough I have an incredible spot in the very middle of the arena with a perfect view of center stage.

But when the show began I realized how it actually operates and knew immediately it was going to be a shitty experience. The three stage setup is fucking STUPID. I understand there’s an insane number of people there and want to give everyone a chance to see something, but you can’t please everyone and this method only makes it a terrible live experience. The only girls I had any real interest in seeing were Subaru and Pekora. Subaru was on the east and west stage the entire night so I was stuck watching the monitors which made me feel like I should’ve just stayed home and seen the stream since it’s the same shit. Pekora on the other hand was the big draw on the lineup artwork, and she was hardly even there it seemed. Had a quiet cover and a duo with fucking Nene of all people.

I don’t know how it looked on the stream, but Kobo had the most muted response from the crowd. I knew that she’s mostly popular with Indo and EN fans, but it was such a weird feeling. I’m not saying she was booed, but it was very much a pity applause. Not as bad as when Flare was on stage, though. I love her singing, but she doesn’t stand out at all and the crowd was not into it.

I can go on and on, but really I was just soured by the experience.

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>>71818355
It's called Tourists who are new to the hobby or just plain trolling. Hell, I'm deep down in the rabbit hole & even some of my best Hololive fan friends had to have Inonaka Music explained to them since that shit is ancient.

Hell, Suisei's involvement with INNK is 100% pre-pandemic.

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>>71818716
I attended all 4 stages. Yeah, switching stages sucks if your oshi is on the opposite end of the hall.
But honestly, the main thing about the concert is the atmosphere of supporting the girls with thousands of others together. it's that experience that makes fes special. Even normal fleshie concerts also have issues with seeing the person on screen for most people.
Kobo's crowd responses wasn't muted. She's just stuck between 2 hard hitters which were Sora and Nene.

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>>71819983
Sure, but your best Hololive fan friends aren't making dumb threads like this. If they want to know, they would actually take 5 seconds to do the reps to find out for themselves.

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>>71818341
>>71818355
>>71819983
>Suisei is better than all the other Holos because just trust me
Gotta cool aid bros. No need to say anymore.

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>>71766082
Suisei's was about graduation and moving forward but it felt melancholic and weak as a finisher
Sora's was about keep fighting for your dreams.
It should have been Suisei and then Sora.
Graduation blues -> Never give up your dreams fire up

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>>71826119
>>Suisei is better than all the other Holos
Nobody's saying she's better, just that she deserves it. If during the next holofes AZKi got all the closers she'd deserve it too.

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>>71753782
But enough about Luxiem

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>>71753948
fpbp

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>>71753782
Azki and Suisei deserved 10000% to be the closer, more so with Last Frontier of all songs. I cried with them too, and was extremely happy about it. The only thing I didn't like much was Suisei closing the holohani instead of Sora with Proud Idol just because it doesn't feel right not to

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>>71826180
NTA and I agree that Sora should be the one closing Holohani stage but simply because Sora is better not really because of the song as the meaning of the song itself isn't really like your usual idol song and is considered as "anti-idol" song by many, because there is part that basically "mocking and fooling fans" but well Sora did a very good job to make that part like it's disappear from the song image and only leaving the being proud and never give up image

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>>71793484
It's not that simple, Miko has explained it a bunch of times why Suisei succeeds when asking and others don't. Most holos including Miko, when they ask for stuff, will get a response like
>"Hmm that would be difficult because of x"
and they give up and don't ask further.

Suisei, when she asks for things gets that initial rejection too, but then follows it up with
>"But if we do x, y and z then wouldn't it be possible? Who is in charge of z? I will go ask them myself. Hello staff did you read my proposition for this project? No? Could you please do so and respond to me with your opinion by tomorrow?"
This is how she punched Hoshimatic through despite the studio technically being booked, she just goes into the fray and organizes the staff and schedule herself instead of waiting on a manager to do it for her. She even mentioned before that she goes out of her way to remember staff names before it became impossible, so she also knows the office hierarchy and who to ask for what.
Suisei should probably become a project director when she retires.

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>>71829682
You're not wrong but that's in the context of pushing for projects in general. For holofes in particular as I said there, pretty much none of the girls's ideas were met with much resistance, even Suisei's petition to make a surprise appearance which she thought would be turned down initially. I guess the girls are so used to being met with resistance for some of their complicated projects that it didn't even cross their minds to ask for stuff for their holofes performances.

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>>71753782
>GIWTWM
You wish you were a hag?

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>>71801409
>get together and cry
Do w*men really?

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>>71829316
It's more like "Don't give up because of haters. Use your own pride to push through and follow your dream"
It's a different take, not really opposite, from Fansa where you push through the bad times by reaching to the fans and being grateful for it.
I can see why it can be considered anti-idol in that it takes away power/influence from the fans, and vows to go on by her own will and strengh.
That can be seen as disrespectful on the more hardcore idol fans

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>>71833655
Well obviously it's the hardcore idol fans that would find it disrespectful but they are different than a hater that simply just hate/anti idol, hardcore idol fan is more like that they have more extreme view about idol so it's not that simple like "don't give up because of haters", a part of Proud Idol song is basically about putting a fake personality on screen to fool people
Also Fansa comparison is off, it's more like Idol by Yoasobi