/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Just you wait until monday when Anycolor stocks keeps on going down! I can't wait to see to see all the Nijisisters cope on Monday

Well? Anything to say for yourselves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
week just started
none of you fags understand anything about stocks

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Wrong subreddit? What does this have to do with vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728833
>'"Just you wait until monday! They'll fall even lower"
>Monday starts and they're flying up
>"Just you wait until the end of the week! They'll fall even lower "

So you HoloDrones don't know what you're talking about. Tragic but not unexpected

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729027
>flying up

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729027
>"but but hololive"
what about it sister?,why you so mindbroken by them? you want to suck cover dick or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
rent free

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Its called a cat dead bounce anon, it repeatedly rallies as those who have bought in hard try to keep it afloat, and opportunists buy repeated dips and sell off as it rises. This is ordinary in the world of stocks, you would know that if you traded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
>>71729027
Go on anon, spend your entire life"s savings in it. You want to make that easy money, right? Buy the dip or whatever.

What is the worst that could happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
People were trolling and clearly this isn't /biz/ so like 1/100 of the posters actually knew what they were talking about. Taking anyone's opinion on any matter that isn't Vtubing seriously on this board is a fool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
BUY BUY BUY!
Put your money where your mouth is if you're so confident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729027
Sisterchama if you honestly believe that a multi billion dollar company will fall in a single day then you are a full blown retard. Well you already are retard by being a nijisister

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729115
*fool's errand

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729050
>-22% to +5%
>Not flying up

Kek. This cope I'm seeing here is hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728833
>>71729069
>>71729111
>>71729159
And let the coping begin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729124
I didn't come here to buy. I came here to laugh at you Dokifags. Imagine having the support of all these normies and still not being able to tear down a single company. Pretty embarrassing

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>>71729292
What, so you don't have confidence that it won't drop again? You don't think it's just going to go back up? Why did you even make the thread then if you think it's going to drop again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729273
>Oh no the laughing stock managed to pull its pant back on and hid in the corner
Whatever we will just laugh at it when it do freefall again thats it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Tell that to all the Anycolor stockholders before Friday. 22% DROP. They are still crying. Hope it gets high enough so they recover with lesser losses. No one deserves such, even Nijitards.

tldr: BUY BUY BUY Nijisisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729402
2 more weeks sister!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729429
Prove us wrong then. Show us you have the utmost faith in your company. It's only going up from here, right? It's free money!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729333
>Why did you even make the thread then if you think it's going to drop again?

>>71729292
Read this again

[Anonymous No.]

Anycolor will never crash, Riikus daddy will always bail him out. You retards don't understand that he established the company at 21 with $15m in equity, how do you think he managed to do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Unusually high traded volume implies someone tried hard to stall the trend, for now. Maybe Riku called some family favors, or maybe institutional investors. Either way, let's talk if the trend is reversed, not stalled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729486
So you're expecting it to drop? Wow, how boring. I thought you had so much faith in your company coming back from this that we'd be crushed at them recovering.
Get back to us in two weeks then and see if they're still going up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Pop quiz!
Which company is in the red? And which one is the green?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Good job, cyster.

[Anonymous No.]

Call me when they recover what they already lost, not before. They were trying REALLY hard to keep it over 3200 not two weeks ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729069
Isn't comparing the two kinda nonsensical?
Anycolor is fully public. Cover just has a third or so public.

[Anonymous No.]

Real investment advice that will better your life:
Always bet on the S&P 500. It has never not eventually gone up in its entire history of existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729537
Cover already recovered fully? Holy shit. Sasuga yagoo sama.

[Anonymous No.]

look up the term Dead Cat Bounce.
Also BUY THE DIP

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728833
I am going to quote this tomorrow, the day after, and the next!

[Anonymous No.]

Good. So more idiot will be fooled into buying the dip while Riku bailout with other big investor. More fun than watching it implode right away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729586
Don't worry. If you don't, we will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729570
>It has never not eventually gone up in its entire history of existence.
This applies to quite a few stocks as well though, like MSFT

[Anonymous No.]

Yessss my parasocial fucks, keep stirring shit up.
Keeping warring like troons!
The rrats feast, they grow plump desuwa~

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729537
It's not good to cherry pick, holobronies. Why don't you post today's stats? Because 6 seems to be a bigger number than 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729292
She's not even trying to tear down the company though, she is just doing her own thing and letting them dig their own grave all by themselves. Of course Nijisanji will do only half-heartedly. You can't rush the art of self-immolation. Leave no gram of flesh untouched by the smallest flame, lest the werewolf corpse has a chance to resurrect as a vampire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729429
Niji stock imploding is just a side dish for us to enjoy anyway sister. It will happen eventually but we can live without it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729731
...What? Because the only thing that matters is the drop on friday.
The people who spent real money prior to friday lost a fuckton of cash thanks to your company's fuck-ups. This isn't just a game of haha number go up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729776
Never mentioned Doki, just Dokifags. Keep on waiting for the giant company worth more than Cover to go down though, it's good to dream. You'll probably get what you expect around the apocalypse starting

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729807
It's just how the game works, holding through earnings is always a bit of a gamble

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729807
>Because the only thing that matters is the drop on friday.
Nah, the only thing that matters is that retards were wrong as usual. Now all the retards that sold their stocks because of a dip got fucking filtered because of vtranny retardation. Shouldn't investors know stocks are inherently volatile? Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729731
Cope. Cover finally climbed out of the pit. Nocolor will just fall back in it yet again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728833
>week just started
What is this holocope?
Holonigs were clearly saying that niji will instantly fall until the selling limit (1900) when Monday stock market opens.
Another proof that holokiddies are just a bunch of retarded children who have no clue about economics and finance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729939
>>71729939
...You don't even know if we're wrong yet. They still have a long, long way to go to recover from this. Not even just the stocks. The audience is gone, too. The superchat money is dwindling. Some of them don't even have the sub milestones anymore.
And many of them are STILL falling each day.
I don't know what world you're in that you think the company is doing fine.
...And then comes the june investor's report where they're going to have to explain what happened in february. Hoo boy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729709
The S&P is an index, as in you're betting on the health and growth of the overall top-end economy of a country. And it may be hard to imagine Microsoft dying, but big individual companies have died in the past, and they can and will be replaced. It's just a lot safer to bet on the country and on indices.

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>>71729857
The fact that you are fixated on Doki at all in even a tangential, proxy capacity when literally the entire Vtubing community is waiting and watching for your inevitable and ongoing failure. Your indignant obsession with one pesky birb's brood is not becoming to your master's fate, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730072
>You don't even know if we're wrong yet
It's Monday. There was no drop. Instead they flew all the way back up and started rising past Hololive. You were wrong. Pretty simple. You can cope however you want. I'll laugh regardless

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730141
Holonigs are coping hard after their pathetic holofes got absolutely mogged by last year's nijifes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730184
Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730184
>>71730141
Have you ever even considered why people might want the company to crash and burn? Honest question here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730184
Great. Now do it again this year while you are in a tailspin death spiral.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730230
That's absolutely elementary:
>Success breeds Jealousy

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>>71730099
That's strange because you seem to be a Dokifag praying on Niji's downfall that was just BTFO'd. Seems like I was right to assume Dokifags were the retards praying for a Monday dip.

All of your Doki's success is because of Nijisanji btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730269
>tailspin death spiral
Is this tailspin death spiral in this room right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>stock dropped off a cliff last week
>went up a bit with cover
>holy shit we won sisters!
sisters are so fucking retarded, desperately lick the floors grasping at the straw just for some "win"

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730312
>buy the dip
>actually deadcat bounce

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730184
No it didn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728833
This is only slightly less of a compliment than "none of you understand anything about bitcoin"

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730361
You are actually right. I didn't get mogged by the nijifes last year. It got mogged by the caffeteria in the nijifes 2 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730272
>Nijiparasites still trying to take credit for Doki's hard work when they did everything in their power to snuff it out
There is a reason your company is buckling to stay afloat once its pillars have already departed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729537
nice cliff sisters, where is that BTFO mega win you sis are talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730184
Interesting, can you back it up with say, linking stats of the two side-by-side?
I will be here laughing while waiting for you.
Please do deliver, bwahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730087
It is safer and should be a part of everyone's portfolio, but the gains aren't that impressive

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>>71730271
No, it's because they were seriously hurting people by exploiting their employees. I couldn't care less if the people were successful outside of the company. Hell, I'd prefer it. I'm not jealous, I just want them to stop attacking and trying to smear the people I support. For fuck's sake, if they just promised or declared that they wouldn't attack Dokibird or Sayu anymore, a lot of us would've just left it at that. Even the people still working there are consistently getting crunched up and destroyed mentally, and everybody who's left has talked about what a horrid place it was to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>HOLOSEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730336
>nigga says deadcat bounce every chance he gets

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
buy the dip and hold on to deal life! Diamond hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730336
I don't know, the dead cat has been bouncing for about a month now. Doesn't seem very dead to me. Do you retards call every dipping stock a deadcat bounce? Because the stock dipped harder last year and they're still here. Genuinely curious

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730310
Yes. That room would be the whole of reality outside of your ostrich-head-sized hole in the ground.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730184
Do you even remember what happened in that Nijifes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730528
NTA but QRD? What happened there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730452
>t. holonig who falseflags as a fan of Dogi/Sayu, but never watched them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730509
Anon, the cat can bounce for ages, with a downward trend, also look into cellar-boxing while you are at it. They are fucked if you look at viewer engagement, SC's and membership counts. Its a downward spiral across the metrics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730560
Try again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730521
Go back to your reddit nest, holonig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730503
Sisters are literally stupider than children

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730424
The only one snuffing herself was Selen in multiple ways. The pillars of the company are still there too like Elira, Rosemi, Petra, Enna and Luxiem. Selen was more trouble than she was worth, should have been canned the instant she started harassing her manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730616
Nice "Inspect Element" skills, holobrown, quite impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730636
>stupider than children
Nah, nobody is more stupid that hololife fans.

[Anonymous No.]

You retards are hilarious to watch sometimes. I don't give a fuck about either of these corps but seeing this is a laugh. Both sides do it too, just depends on who op shits on.
>1day looks bad for x, "post the extended graph faggot, then it looks good"
>extended graph looks bad for x, "OK but who cares, the 1day number is bigger"

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>>71730648
>Big chuuba quits
>"Eh it's actually good she was a liability"
Were Pomu and Nina "trouble" too?
Will the narrative change so that Rosemi was "trouble" all along after she leaves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730693
Wise words, cyster.

[Anonymous No.]

>niggas never heard of a bull trap

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730737
Even Mysta was "trouble" apparently.
How many people will be "trouble" before they realize that maybe the company had issues?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730694
We mock tribalfags for a reason. Its like watching the animals fight over a patch of dirt, or failures fight over street corners to sell drugs / their bodies on. Enjoying chuubas is for Chads, the rejects belong to the catalogue slob.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730737
>Big chuuba quits
Why are you mocking Doki's obesity? That's a serious health problem and should be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730737
>Nina
anon?
>Pomu
my opportunity of a lifetime that Big Bad Nijisanji took from me
Of course sisters see those as trouble

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730614
>Anon, the cat can bounce for ages
So you do say dead cat bounce every time a stock dips. Got it. JP is fine and Petra just got 25k - 30k on her 3D debut which BTFO'd Doki's streams and they had 30K on their project sekai tournament. Niji is eating good

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730796

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730864
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730864
Evil Elira is making me feel things in my balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730737
Nah, they weren't notorious for being abusive gaslighters that couldn't take what they dished out. Sad to see them go but they're doing fine and are in talks with each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730858
>*twists reality*
>Got It
No, clearly not anon. Go back and read it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730858
So that means she's going to consistently get higher numbers than Doki from here on out... right?
Clearly all of the Nijisanji EN organs with the full might of a company behind them will do better than one traitor working alone... right?

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>>71730858
how much money did that 3D bring to the company again? 3D that required a lot of shooting and staff that needs to get paid to produce. What was the return on that big event? Oh

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730858
Not sure if ironic shitposting or delusional sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729731
Kek retarded takes as usual
Anycolor is below starting price and still hasnt climbed out of the drop
Go back to the kitchen sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730858
>25k - 30k on her 3D debut which BTFO'd Doki's streams
I'm sorry are we comparing a 3D debut to regular streams or real big events like, oh I dunno, say, a 125K return stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730864
Let me lick your toes mommy

[Anonymous No.]

Indies are trash too, troon contrarians. You exist in the shadow of giants, live in the house better men built, pick at table scraps.

You should kneel and GIVE THANKS to Nijisanji for innovating this industry into something more than a masturbator's daydream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Stock looks really good. You should buy it.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it surprising that people started buying the dip when it didn't immediately drop again at the start of the day?
I think we all know that if there wasn't a 700 yen limit on Friday, Niji stocks would have dipped much lower. I'm pretty sure that's all anyone who wasn't deliberately trolling you would have said on Friday, regardless of whatever headcanon you want to make up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730969
Hard times call for unconventional Ws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729998
Holonigs live rentfree in your head so thats something at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730796
>no argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730858
>brags about lowest 3D ccv in niji history and proseka viewership that reclined 50% vs last year
this must be falseflagging, sister can`t be this retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730989
The giant seems to be on the ground, with the rrats eating it.
Nijisanji used to be a better player on the scene, now it no longer is anon.
That contract leak was eye opening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730969
Wow. Dokifags really are still counting a drama stream. That stream wasn't hers, people were watching for Niji and stayed for Niji. Now she's back to being a 5k that can only get views by doing callbacks to Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729537
Are nijikeks seriously arguing anycolor has btfo cover here
Why do these idiots talk about stocks again and why do we listen to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730648
Doki was so much trouble that Sonny's 3D chibi stream from a few months ago was made almost entirely using assets she commissioned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730999
JP lunch break stalled the sharp drop. A pathetic saving grace.

[Anonymous No.]

>What happened?
Cover got mogged
>What is the result?
Holonigs seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730989
Wow, you used the no-no tranny word! I wasn't on your side before but now you sure haclve me convinced, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731039
Even the weakest Nijisanji 3D can still BTFO Doki!
Keep seething HoloHombre, the Yacht is UNSINKABLE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731069
Oh, so we're only counting normal streams, then? How many of those 20k people stayed for the after talk?
...Oh. Huh, I guess all those people really WEREN'T there for petra, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731069
>That stream wasn't hers
>people watched Dokibird for Niji
A real Olympic Mental Gymnastics Champion in the wild.
People really are right that you use the talents and do not care about them.
What the fuck are you saying anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Dead cat bounce. They’re already screwed in three months when the year end report comes out anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729227
>only 5% gain after having lost 22%
Still a net loss. Tell me when they actually do recover.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: holofags seething at Riku's success

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731165
People were there for Petra's 3D and watched her 3D. That's what they came for. People were in Doki's stream for drama, stayed for drama and then bailed. Keep coping, Holomonkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731171
It's like we always say. They don't give a shit about the organs. That's why they weren't outraged by the contract. That's why they never complain when they hear the organs are getting crushed and chewed up by their shitty management. It's why they immediately turn on somebody who they were singing praises of two days ago because they ate a cake at fucking starbucks. As soon as you leave the company, you are the enemy. The only oshis they care about is Riku Tazumi. The actual organs can just fucking die as long as the corpses keep the logo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731069
sis... petra only has one (1) singular 5view stream this year

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731165
So can we say that people watched Petra3D for rrats, that the ''stream wasn't hers''. LMAO
>>71731069
Are you listening to your logic being applied here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731069
Kill yourself and your whole inbred retarded kind pagpag

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731311
Unsure why they don't just recycle the corpses of organs and have someone else play as Selen at this point. Their fanbase obviously couldn't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731304
So tell me... What drama has there been from her? Anything? None?
...So why is she still getting double the numbers of your organ's big off collabs playing random bullshit like Hoofobia or ADGAC?
Are you telling me that your organs are so worthless that they can't even reach half the numbers of a single traitor? Or are you telling me that the only way they could ever match her is by having a 3D debut for every single stream for the rest of their careers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731069
>Now she's back to being a 5k that can only get views by doing callbacks to Niji
When the fuck did any of her streams tap out at 5K? Which would still be mogging an average organ stream these days I might add. But no, let's keep comparing the apples and oranges of your lowest performing 3D debut yet that only managed to do double over a stream >>71730924 where yellow bird does nothing but go on a Steam shopping spree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731126
>Cover got mogged
>Cover had the biggest event in the history of vtubing
>Cover only has 30% of it's company on the stock market
>Cover is worth 78% more than it was when going partially public
>Anycolor had a stock split, a buybabk, and loan margin trading, and crashed 25% below it's starting price when going F U L L Y PUBLIC
>Anycolor has a dead cat bounce and rises not even half of the way back up to where it had crashed from
>inbred jobless trolls smear themselves in shit and call it victory
>It's another day ending in Y

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731428
>sister lying to save face
No, they wouldn't do that. Would they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729537
So Anycolors bad financial report actually sucked down cover? are stock bros retarded? Did Airbus stock suffer because of the Boeing problems?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731304
still getting better views than nijiorgans tho, sounds like you subhumans are the one thats overdosing on nijicope

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Yeah, if the stocks fluctuate under 3000 for too long for even 3 weeks everyone with basic financial understanding is abandoning ship, including Riku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731069
>>71730969
>>71731165
>>71731314
>>71731428
Go back to your containment thread already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731512
Is this DALL-E?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730443
6% average gains yoy doesn't seem impressive on the surface but if you are buying regularly it adds up extremely quickly do to Dividends, dip buying and compounding interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731438
It's honestly embarrassing how the JP branch has to suffer because of the ineptitude of EN. WHEN they merge the clique and all the boys are going to get stomped on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731311
>Holotards still false flagging and blaming Niji fans for harassing Scarle

The cope never ends. The only organs that people rightfully shit on are the traitors named Sayu and Doki. Imagine being made famous by Nijisanji and instead of being a good sport and accepting that you're the problem, you instead try to smear the company for firing you after constant fuck ups like an entitled cunt. I sure couldn't . Keep it up guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731438
Bro this is just completely incorrect. Cover has a higher percentage float with less held by institutions than anycolor.
We don't even have real /biz/-tards here, you're all wannabes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731438
Tbf, stock split, buy back and loan margin is totally fine, except it almost back to back in a span of ONE year.
Something might going behind the scene that we don't know it yet.
For now, grab a glass and cheer for Anycolor recovery and bless the Nijifan that hold on their stock (they should get more btw)

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731477
Anycolor likes to brag about being the biggest vtubing company, so dumbass investors who bought that line will assume the whole industry is fucked if they go down. On the other hand, articles on Anycolor hitting the circuit breaker on Friday called them the second biggest, and Holofes seems to have reassured people that the industry itself isn’t about to collapse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731501
...Every single one of those streams adds up to 2k less than her steam sale sim.
Yeah, I guess the dramagoons have left, alright. Clearly her time in the sun is over and everyone will leave in just two more weeks. Clearly nobody loves her or wants to watch her streams.

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't we wait for a week or two to actually see if it bounces back to 3k+?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731580
Once again a delusional sister using mental gymnastics to erase thr fact NijiEN management EXPOSED themselves indecency in the public. Put some clothes on invisible robes don't exist lol

[Anonymous No.]

ITT, Trolls who aren't even nijisisters recycling insults against dokibird to rile up /vt/ cause they know nijisisters are hated by the entire rest of the vtuber fandom, Sensitive /vt/ers eat the bait hook line and sinker and quintuple down with their "facts and logic" while the trolls continue to feast, bravo OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731544
Neither of these companies have ever distributed dividends and likely never will. The number here just randomly spouting shit they've read once on biz or Reddit is hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731438
>Cover had the biggest event in the history of Vtubing
And that didn't reflect on the stock market at all. Foiled again by Riku Tazumi!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731616
That weekend + market cap really saved riku's ass kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731580
>>71730654
I don't even know why I bothered to attempt to reason with actual children.
By the way, if a single girl leaves, and a single one of her regular streams is worth more than everybody else in the branch combined, maybe she didn't need the branch, but it was actually the branch that needed her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731603
>This, Hololive has already established itself that despite the lower returns on investment it isn't going to go the way of NijiEN that is about to dry up at any moment. People are trying to sell off their black company stock for as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731580
>must be hololive
>cope
>traitors
>Niji made them famous
>be a good sport and accept you're the problem
>constant fuck ups
>entitled cunt
It is like listening to Twittertards make an argument. If changing reality and throwing ''the other tribe'' under the bus is how you want to face this, that is okay anon. But we are going to laugh at your delusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731616
Sisters are jumping the gun because the worst case scenario didn’t happen. They don’t have the patience to see if this isn’t just a pump and dump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731551
>It's honestly embarrassing how the JP branch has to suffer because of the ineptitude of EN
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VtIfkDY-0l6xtr7Usp-vPPM_GM3KqGdZbCANhixnvoA/mobilebasic
Their suffering is absolutely karmic. NijiJP is just as rotten as EN, they just have the advantage of a language barrier and a domestic audience completely culturally conditioned to corporate cuckoldry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731657
Much like how twitter and 4chan aren't real places that effect the actual vtubers, The stock market doesn't effect the company, Or well.. it doesn't as long as the CEO doesn't care about it, I'm not against nijisanji or hololive, I find all this stock talk fucking retarded, You numberchimps are so inbred it hurts, Enjoy the chuubas and stop shitting everywhere like apes

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731645
Doki isn’t even relevant to discussion anymore, I’m not sure why people bring them up as if she wants anything to do with Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

Here sister, try cope on this
>inb4 anycolor are higher than cover
Lol sister already failed elementary math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731645
I blame NijiEN, Vshojo and Phase Connect for bringing this entire chimp circus down on the hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731823
Because it's all they can think about. To them, apparently Doki is jealous of Niji's success and is some kind of shadow mastermind that's sapping all of their subs and viewers and tricking us hating nijisanji. They think if they can just kill her for good that Nijisanji will grow back stronger than before.

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>>71731645
Imagine thinking people will defend a company for nearly killing their talent. Muh trolls. It's worst than that, you have the worst of schizos applying pressure everyday for Nijisanji to fuck up and they hold a proven belief that thry are right. Your nightmare isn't going to end. Blame it on the more toxic part of your community thinking they can get away with it. Chat reflects streamers after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731753
>Much like how twitter and 4chan aren't real places that effect the actual vtubers
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731823
Nijifags have her living in their heads rent free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731713
Then how come she only got those numbers post Niji? Where were all her fans before Niji? Could it be that Nijisanji made her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731833
What happened between mid 2022 and early 2023?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731727
>listening to NDF make an argument
>It is like listening to Twittertards make an argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731833

>>71729731
Holofags haven't passed elementary English

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730428

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731882
If they let her go properly Selen would of disappeared / they still would have power to write their narrative. Instead their reputation came crumbling down. They forget that their losses need to be recouped. Meanwhile fresh competition is going to enter the industry this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730141
> It flew all the way back up
Mate they got less than 6% back that's litteraly nothing and it can still fall back down like it did on Monday when it got 2650 to 2580, if someone said that about Tesla stock I would laugh them off as anyone would knowing about stocks would, you're talking as if they are back at 3140 but they won't get there anytime soon and if anything Monday was a failure since they only got a slight increase while the rest of the Japanese market as a whole got a pretty big surge meaning, anycolor grows very slightly when the market is having an upsurge and is in the lead among the losers when the market is going down.. and that's not good, Monday not going as well as it should have will cause problems as times goes on and the price gets stable

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731914
AR Live got "postponed".

[Anonymous No.]

Lulu

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731905
Because all she really needed was exposure. Nijisanji gave her that, and then they fucking squandered it with a lack of support. Now that she has the support she needs and she has the exposure, she's been able to actually start and complete projects, as well as focus on her content without constantly worrying if management will actually fucking let her release a project after it's completed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731962
t. ESL pagpag sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732013
It's typical sister cope tactics. If it bumped all the way back up they should feel justified, instead the increase is negligible so they spin it as a fantastic turn of events that has never occured before!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732046
I still jack off to Lulu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731877
They only exist if you acknowledge them, Give them attention and let them live rent free in your head, Try to capitulate or spite them instead of zoning in on making your content, Any vtuber who frequents twitter OR /here/ is a retard who needs to be tardwrangled, Like moir has been tardwrangled, she hasn't had any twitter outbursts in over a year now, And it shows

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731905
Why isn't Elira or Enna as popular as Pomu or bigger than Selen? Nijisanji made them but are doing a horrible job of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732013
Mate, you're a retard. A stock going from negative 22 to plus 5 is the stock flying up especially when it's higher than their competitor who just recently had a big event. Acting like it's not the exact opposite of what VTrannies said would happen is just seething and coping, Brit

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732146
they will say Pomu was always a runt and only got popular thanks to MGS. You know how it goes, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730648
>Elira hasn't streamed for 1+ month, avg ccv @ 1500 at best
>Rosemi avg ccv @1500 at the very best incl. funnels
>Petra avg ccv @1000 incl. funnels
>Enna avg ccv @1500, income slashed by more than 50% compared to last year.
>Luxiem runts can barely sustain 4view, Vox hasn't streamed for 2+ months


NIJISANJIEN THRIVING!

PEAK COMEDY, well-constructed bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732209
No, they'll say that pomu and selen were never as popular as elira and enna. Just look how many merch releases they got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732246
The trolls and the dramafags are eating good, and sisters seem to be feeding them. Catalogue threads read like something out of twitter these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731925
NDF are literally Chinese teens who tweet about Vox and Kpop boybands. Most of the NDF are probably 13 year old kids. It's sad. Social media has ruined their generation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732181
For the last, god damn time
>Cover Corp entered the market at 1250 per share
>Anycolor entered the market at 3250 per share
>Cover corp being above 1250 means they grew
>Anycolor being below 3250 means they shrank
BUHHHH BUUH 2592 >2400!
>Also anyolor did a stock split, buyback, AND applied for loan margin trading to float their stockprices up, Yagoo told cover corp investors to fuck off when asked to pinch pennies and cut back expenses for the talents
BUT... BUT COVER DIDN'T GROW FROM HOLOFES
>Investors don't follow the industries they invest in, They follow quarterly earnings reports and whatever notices they get, The ONLY reason they crashed during the selen termination was because riku told them about it during the "negligible" fiasco, It was the singular reason they lost so much, EN dramafags don't cross the language barrier

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730930
She made approx. 800 USD after taking into account youtube and anycolor cuts. 3600 USD gross.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732181
You just got owned by someones big financial dick filled with economics. Get pumped in your bussy boi

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731981
That’s the dumbest thing. Her telling people to pirate the MV was objectively wrong, no way that wouldn’t have consequences. If Niji didn’t write that multiple page termination letter, there’d probably be more people siding with them than Doki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729731
>It's not good to cherry pick, holobronies. Why don't you post today's stats?
lol love your irony, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732181
Do you not know what those numbers actually mean? First of all, that would still be -17%, all other factors being equal. More importantly, the -22% is derived from the price before the drop, while the 5% is derived from Monday’s opening price, so they didn’t even make that big a dent because those factors aren’t equal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732449
Yeah, if they didn't write the letter, people probably WOULD have thought that she snapped and had a serious menhera moment. Instead they self reported out the ass and kept digging themselves deeper every time they tried to talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732449
>Her telling people to pirate the MV was objectively wrong
No shit. Why else did she tweet that immediately. To get the fuck out.
That was her plan for a while if she couldn't graduate normally

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732449
Thank fuck that Anycolon are a bunch of retards!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732522
Get the fuck out, maybe. It sounded more like a suicide note to me.
"At least the dragoons have a way to see it now."

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732320
No proof. Apparently Holo investors are retarded and Nijisanji is still worth more than Holo so keep on seething, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732578
yeah i still wonder if that song was a suicide note or a graduation note, because i don't believe it was meaningless

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732590
Go ahead and buy some anycolor stocks then. Show us how much you believe that AC is worth more than cover. Buy as much as you can. It's free money when they recover from this, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732578
that was my implication...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732634
It was definitely her graduation song or whatever. It was one of the last things she did in her original graduation stream. She sang that specific song. It's still on the vod on the youtube channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732425
Well that's new

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729027
>flying up

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732590
>No proof
You can literally google their stocks, zoom out to max, And mouse over where the line was at the start retard
>Apparently holo investors are retarded
ALL investors are retarded
>And Nijisanji is still worth more than holo
If i buy a car for 3250$ and its worth 2592$ now,, and someone else buys a car for 1250$ and it's worth 2400$, My car might be "worth more", But i am still the loser cause i paid more, Fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732578
Damn! Apparently she was planning her suicide for a year! Must have been a pretty elaborate scheme that ended up with her not dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732449
Imagine a world where NijiEN was professional and silently terminated Selen. Instead of making it a public execution only for everyone to horribly realize when they put the noose on themselves to check the fit they fell forward and killed themselves with Selen standing there perplexed. Like what are the fucking odds of that ever happening? Cause it did. Very stupid Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732738
Her parents found her in time before she died, she had been missing for hours, That's the only reason she survived, It's funny, Even the retard trio in the black box stream BEGGED viewers to not make light of her suicide attempts despite everything else they fucking did, You'd think nijisisters would atleast listen to their god damn oshis

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732738
nta but we all know women can't actually neck themselves successfully, just look at the cat

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729227
-22% at 3100yen
+5% at 2451

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732791
Their oshi is the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732791
this is the same group of "people" that constantly brigade /here/ with:
>Dooki wanted drama
>Dooki encouraged harassment
>Dooki started it and kept throwing fuel on the fire
and completely ignore that Anykuro instigated it every time and she repeatedly told people she was done and not to harass anyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732509
>people probably WOULD have thought that she snapped and had a serious menhera moment
People do think that, and she did. Nijisanji didn't count on the fact that Westerners and normies actually feel empathy for people being pushed to the brink of mental collapse by a slavedriver organization, however. I love my situational menhera oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732755
>NijiEN was professional and silently terminated Selen.
So cover is unprofessional too then, right? It definitely wouldn't be unprofessional for a talent to just be disposed of without a word
>killed themselves with Selen standing there perplexed.
Yeah, she didn't do anything. She just sent lawyers at them, wrote up a document accusing them of multiple different things including harassment, blackmailed them with said document pined her suicide attempt on them, claimed they broke the law again later on, then when she was wrong about that she walked back on it and revealed she was hiding a SECOND suicide attempt. She didn't do anything though

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732915
You mean she had internal disputes and tried to resolve them internally in private so that both sides would be able to split amicably, and then ANYCOLOR spat in her face and made it public only to realize that people sided with her and that they were a shitty place to work? Woah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732829
This genuinely feels so anathema to me, If yagoo one day was replaced by some riku type and started neglecting or abusing the talents i'd drop support for them in an instant, Vtubers are about the fucking VTUBERS, i hate these fucking brand worshipping fucks, the nintendrones and disney adults of vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732915
wow, she had her laywer send a legal complaint to company that encouraged and turned a blind eye to workplace harassment and bullying she was receiving and threatened legal action?
unconceivable! that absolute wench! she should burn!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732721
To add. How many shares does Niji have compared to Cover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732791
The one making light of her suicide attempt are you schizos saying she used a fucking music video about coffee as a suicide note. The suicide attempt where her parents found her wasn't even the one she was in the hospital for. If she was actually going to die, she would have ended up right back in the hospital during January and she wouldn't have been able to even negotiate with Niji like she said she was doing

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732915
>silent terminations
Yeah Niji has done this before how did they fuck up this time? O wait, because they maliciously wanted too.
>Selen standing
You bet your ass, those documents weren't intended to be viewed by talents, a direct lawyer to lawyer situation that would have been quickly escalated to upper management. Instead what did the NijiEN branch do? Take responsibility of the situation and fumble. Fumble HARD. OWN GOAL! The grand finale is over! Nijisanji are absolute fucktards, what is wrong with this team? Are they retarded, what is their problem, the goal is on the other side of an entire fucking field?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732915
>A single canadian threatened the BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION with lawsuits and scared them into acting irrationally
Every single time i see this argument i get an aneurism, There is literally NO reason why they should have been scared of her lawyering up, Unless of course they broke some MAJOR major laws they really didn't want uncovered, But if they are oh so innocent they should have told her to bring it on, How would she be able to keep up with them pressuring her and stalling her out to bleed her legal fees dry?, Seriously any time i see this argument all i can think of is some inbred third worlder who's only experience with lawyers was a pirated copy of Ace Attorney

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733085
What? No. We're saying THIS sounds like a suicide note.
There's no world in which you flat out tell your community to pirate your company's IP and expect to go unpunished, let alone employed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733134
The fact Niji didn't strong hold this situation in the background suing her means they can't touch the situation with a 10 foot pole, but still want to come out of the incident being the winners. Talk about hubris, that word sums up their entire existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733134
Because an accusation of a crime that ends up going to court is bad for the reputation of the company even if they're completely innocent. You get an aneurysm because you lack common sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733019
An entire generation breed to behave that way. They are pretty useful though, easily manipulable if you've taken a vague interest in their hobbies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733062
Wow! It's almost like the company turned a blind eye to harassment and bullying because it never happened! You know what that say about Occam's razor

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733317
The suicide attempt is real though, hospital recorded and even addressed in Niji's own words when they couldn't contact her.. when she is hospitalized. Fucking morons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733137
Or it reads like an emotional tantrum she sent out because she was malding at her manager for following the rules again where she expected to just be let off the hook again like the fall guys tournament

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Based 3view pengy

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732502
To note if the stock followed market average it would have been at 2800

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733399
>Niji's own words when they couldn't contact her
And they never said this! They, in fact, said the opposite! Typical drone. Lying to save face

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733411
Why do you assume Management are the good guys? They took a year to do their job and still cancelled a project they should have been actively reviewing, they are inept. Incapable. Lazy. Pathetic. But more sinful, untrustworthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733502
lol do you know what an emergency contact is and why they would use it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732721
Wait hold on, a comparable thing would be if your car split in two complete cars, both half as valuable as they were before the split.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733137
>pirate your company's IP
Selen's video that she put her own money, time, and had permissions from all that were involved.

But this all the black company and supporter sees. Company coming up with the most petty excuses to take it all away.

In other agencies, they recognize that it's the talent that built that IP. Nijisanji and the remaining talents deserve all that is coming to them. No one should dare show them any ounce of sympathy.

[Anonymous No.]

The idiots buying in absolutely deserve to lose their money

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733502
Harassing Selen's emergency contact in order to shape the situation is a terrible look to have, put into their own Termination letter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733503
>They took a year to do their job
Actually they had a day where getting perms was abruptly thrown onto them during Christmas
>still cancelled a project
Project was not cancelled
>they should have been actively reviewing,
>Please, manager! Do my job for me and remind me to send you stuff for my vanity project I shouldn't even be doing in the first place because I can barely afford it!

Work a real job

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Buy more Sisters, I will be right behind you

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733662
>Actually they had a day where getting perms was abruptly thrown onto them during Christmas
lmfao jesus sister your revisionism is funny but this really takes the cake

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733545
Yeah , an emergency contact can be requested to be contacted to assist in matters relating to mental health. Doesn't have to be only when someone is bleeding out on the floor and dying, you dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733265
>Because an accusation of a crime that ends up going to court is bad for the reputation of the company even if they're completely innocent
Retard, Any lawsuits would have been private, and if doki tried blabbing about it, She'd MASSIVELY damage her case and look like a fucking fool, All niji would have to do to discredit her then would be to disprove her claims with discord screenshots, and then sue her for defamation, The ONLY reason she won the court of public opinion is because THEY shot themselves in the dick 10 times over and over while she didn't do a single thing

[Anonymous No.]

>all Doki has to do to end these arguments is post reciepts
Why wont she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733662
They should review a project once a month, they are called monthly meetings idiot.
>getting perms
yikes dyrbi that any of those ex-livers would have said no to being apart of the music video?

>>71733502
Niji are their own worst enemy, a company filled with incompetence and the good ones left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729227
>>-22% to +5%
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733810
>all Nijifags have to do to end this argument is stop saying stupid shit
Why don’t they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733837
Imagine being the instigator and hassling the talent to come clean on why they attempted suicide but in a manner that doesn't incriminate the cause. Fuck offffffffffffff, sigh, so tiring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733411
Or it was the last fucking straw after TWO fucking years of projects being shitcanned and stonewalled and her just taking it like a champ until she couldn't anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733873
Retard probably thinks there’s a common zero between them, meaning they went up 27% and came out ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733799
>Any lawsuits would have been private
Sure, whatever you say. Ignore that she also blackmailed them with making her claims public which definitely is an attempt to attack their reputation.
>THEY shot themselves in the dick 10 times over and over while she didn't do a single thing
Doki dindu nuffin. Ignore the blackmail, suicide attempt that was pined on them and the verbal harassment towards her manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733941
This, sadly is also why Pomu doesn't have a lot of love for being a vtuber. I do believe she lacks confidence after coping with a bad situation for too long despite having a lot of support even when she wants to hide and rest for a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733941
I mean all she had to do wss play Apex every day. Why all the projects at all? She never did that stuff before Nijisanji...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733998
Yeah deflect away from my responses you spineless twit. Lost grounds for objective reasoning already? So why did Niji out themselves in their 'master plan'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733998
>verbal harassment towards her manager
what harassment and what manager, lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732590
>Nijisanji is still worth more than Holo
..that's not how stocks work

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733998
My favorite was how she conveniently mentioned how it was two attempts after the black screen stream. Why was she withholding that? Just to bring it out if Niji did anything? Seems sus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733837
>They should review a project once a month, they are called monthly meetings idiot.
They do. THEIR projects. Not the talents personal projects. She didn't even need a meeting to throw more work at her manager, she just threw it and was upset there was problems with it. Childish
>Hey, do you want me to continue profiting off you while you already left the company? Actually never mind, I won't ask, of course you'll say yes

Even if they would have said yes, not asking is just blatantly disrespectful as well as being against the rules

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733998
An attempt to attack their reputation can be sued for slander anon (and in japan it doesnt actually matter whether the slanderous statement is true or not, just prove that it caused damages)

But they didn't sue
Because they know it's not worth it
Because they know they'll lose more for pursuing it

why is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734087
https://youtu.be/JKKWlrZikHc?si=MLc-IASngTum47HM

She sure sounds like she has a stable, non abusive relationship with her manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734109
is her personal medical information any of your fucking business?
does she also need to report every time she takes a shit to you so you can thoroughly inspect it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734109
Niji stopped playing nice with the Black Screen attempt idiot. Why even bother trying to ambush her the same time she streams. Why reveal to the public they were reading legal documents at all. Why be involved in the process. Why use Talents to distribute this kind of news? The sus came before Doki remarked their were multiple incidents, she actually was the most professional thus believable. Cope with the result.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
retarded OP doesn't know about the term known as Cat Dead Bounce. Don't forget your beloved Niji stock crashed so damn hard last friday it triggered the safety measures put into place by the Tokyo Stock Exchange just so it won't crash all the way down to bedrock. That in itself is so damn embarassing for a supposed esteemed (esteemed according to you Nijisisters btw) company like AnyColor. Your company is basically now the Laughingstock of the whole vtubing industry.

Come back and brag back to us when Niji's stocks actually rise up to 3500+ in two weeks or less. 2,594 closing value is not the win you think it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734134
Cause she's broke by her own admission so they'd get no money out of it and winning a slander suit wouldn't change the problem that are Holotards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733662
>Actually they had a day where getting perms was abruptly thrown onto them during Christmas
So you're ignoring the input of artists and producers who gave input about how MVs are supposed to be made and released specifically in response to this drama?
>vanity project I shouldn't even be doing in the first place because I can barely afford it!
Oh, so you're thinking in terms of "a nail that's sticking out gets hammered down", do you? Go fuck yourself. That shit DOES NOT fly in the Wast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734200
So she was fine talking about the first one, but mentioning the 2nd is too much? She made it our business when she used the first attempt as a weapon to attack nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE /#/TRANNIES HELP ME IM GOING INSAAAAANEEEEEEEEEE WHY ISN'T NIJISANJI DEAD YET AAAAIIIIEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

Why is everyone ITT suddenly a finance expert?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734041
Kill yourself, collectivist scum. Talented people should be able to use their talents are be rewarded for it.

[Anonymous No.]

you guys defend and go to war for these companies like little babies

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734243
>So you're ignoring the input of artists
Yes. They weren't there
>Oh, so you're thinking in terms of "a nail that's sticking out gets hammered down", do you?
No, I was thinking more of a "you do your job, I'll do mine " mentality while also having the brain capacity to not waste money on shit when you're already low on money

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734269
Little brother syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734236
holy ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734278
>talented people
>selen's singing
Good joke. Her singing is awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733662
Work outside a sweatshop, little sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734322
Her talent is networking and establishing contacts, I didn't say shit about singing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728833
>>71728922
>>71729069
>>71729111
>>71729112
>>71729159
>>71729402
>>71729537
HOLOSEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729537
Why did they lose 20% in 5 days? Serious question, I don't keep up with drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734364
Her talent is eating a lot rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734119
Ever heard of story boards moron? Do you think managers allow their talents just do anything they want and check on it later? There's a fucking concept that gets followed and the project has been cooking long enough that a decent manager who is aware their talent wants to release by this date would check up on.
Those ex talents don't get shit, they lost the rights over their IP when they left. It's fucking Nijisanji who ultimately has the final say. You feel for a basic bait dumb ass. It was managements intention all along to deny her project and did it at the final minute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
Well, what will you do when the stock drop to near 2k in this friday...
Will you sell your other organ after sell your kidney..?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734382
holochads don't give a fuck lmao
we're eating good everyday sis
like it's literally been AMAZING for years EVERY SINGLE DAY
You will never experience anything like this ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734384
they lost 22% in one day*
because their financial report showed NijiEN was down 40% YOY and the investors know EN is fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733998
>blackmail
You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734190
>''verbal harassment''
Grass hurts-moment, got any other links? This is tame af anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734190
So, old story and old manager. And the harassment is some "heated" messages without mentioning the context, so we don't know if the heat was justified. Ok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734450
Verbal harassment is what drove her to attempt twice. Must be something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734300
I'm gonna spoonfeed you, since i'm generous. If you don't know archive sites, go fuck yourself.
>>69153579

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734384
A big investor pulled out

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734307
That is projection. Ichikara is in the gutter with nothing to show for it. The Little Brother is Nijisanji anon?

[Anonymous No.]

The fact is /vt/ isn't a safe place for Niji assholes to discuss in anymore. You lost that right when you decided you can use and abuse talent like Pomu & Selen. No one would want their oshis to go through a similar situation. You aren't even an easy target to abuse, but you will get mogged forever since there is no more good will you can express. Black company's get rich scheme is drying up and if you are a talent in Nijisanji you better consider a back up plan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733548
yet still both combined would be worth less than what i paid for them when they were whole, thus not changing what i meant in the slightest

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734407
they say this retarded shit lmao but logs niji released doesn't show any complains from "manager". He wasn't asking why the fuck she's dropping prems shit on him 1 day before deadline, wasn't bitching about how many many permissions he'll need to get for mv of that scope etc LOL
fucking clearly manager knew about EVERYTHING, perms were given for EVERYTHING. Fucking niji is PAYING (LOL) artists who got commissioned.
This fucking retarded "she gave them 1 day" cope doesn't make any fucking sense at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734404
You're 12, fuck off from this website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733810
Because she already won?, You know this goes BOTH WAYS right?
>All nijisanji has to do to end these arguments is post reciepts
If they are so innocent, Why aren't they doing it?, And don't go MUH LAWSUIT cause there ARE NONE

[Anonymous No.]

The fact is /vt/ isn't a safe place for Holo assholes to discuss in anymore. You lost that right when you decided you can use and abuse talent like Coco & Mel. No one would want their oshis to go through a similar situation. You aren't even an easy target to abuse, but you will get mogged forever since there is no more good will you can express. Black company's get rich scheme is drying up and if you are a talent in Hololive you better consider a back up plan.

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>>71734493
You are right, like I said, sisters' verbal abuse angle is a tame one. Literally crying about prickling grass, your link supports that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729998
>something something hololive
what about it sister? what about hololive? they are just doing fest if i remember,why they are living rent free in your head?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734307
>nijisanji: the number 2 competitor is the big brother to
>hololive: the top company in the vtubing sphere
Rumao

[Anonymous No.]

ninjasanji is done

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734597
That's why copycats fail, you can't apply the Black Company to Hololive at all and it just reminds everyone that Nijisanji exists. Talk about playing with fireworks and blowing off a finger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734597
But Anon, neither Coco nor Mel got harassed by Hololive fans. Do you even read what you are copying? Or is it just mental illness on your part?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734526
>>71734642
I'm not going to watch hololive with you unless you sit on my lap

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734407
>Do you think managers allow their talents just do anything they want and check on it later?
Why would it be a bad thing to be hands off in someone else's personal project unless they ask for help?

>>71734545
KEK Apparently the manager not bitching and moaning but instead remaining professional and immediately getting to work is proof they knew about the graduated members being in the video. You fuckers are genuinely clowns

[Anonymous No.]

>>71733998
>A single canadian girl is SO POWERFUL she can blackmail a billion dollar corporation in japan with just some discord screenshots, also her blackmail is fake and she is making it up #amberbird #dookiebitch #dookiebird #amberbitch
You fucktards are so stupid, She didn't blackmail them at all, THEY POSTED THE TERMINATION LETTER BEFORE SHE SAID A GOD DAMN THING

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734597
Sister projecting and stewing in impotent rage, must be a day that ends in y

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734689
Post bussyhole with timestamp and I'll consider it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730272
>All of your Doki's success is because of Nijisanji
there is no doki in nijisanji sister,the IP is own by doki and her alone,have nothing to do with niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734426
HOLOSEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729227
People in the last thread said this would happen. It’s a desperate attempt to keep things afloat and people buying the dip

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734646
The market dipping is a huge sign of horrible things in store for their future. Instability that we know will go untreated because that's not the type of business Riku designed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734689
Nobody is going to watch shit with you anon, you are a laughing stock on a place like /vt/
That is how bad things are going for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734699
This was never about the graduaded livers, it was always a bullshit excuse. Maria's MV and the Lazulight MV had graduated livers no problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729537
I guess this is why HoloFes is scheduled when it is, huh? It's essentially a Show of Power to the investors.

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>>71734703
What's funny us that they found in the position that either they say their company fucked over themselves due to immeasurable incompetence or they say that their company was so instable and fragile a single canadian girl could topple all of it in about two months

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730768
>tribalfags
there is no "tribalfags" left when the tribal war has ended long ago,only couple of schizo retarded nijifag/sister who still coping where their enemy at the throne and ignoring them and their fellow triballist hide in cave

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>>71734703
They engage in ''alternative facts'' to keep the cognitive dissonance at bay. The community watched Nijisanji ruin their own case with; first the termination letter, then the spiteful social media posts, and finally the black screen. It was an event, and it pissed off people across the community, not just disgruntled ex-Nijisanji folks or Hololive viewers.

t. Indie viewer

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>>71734782
Because they had perms and Dokicunt didn't, it's pretty simple. Follow the rules or get kicked out.

[Anonymous No.]

I think people have very unrealistic expectations on how the stock market works. It was highly unlikely that it would continue flushing down as it did on Friday, because there's no strong reason for that to happen. Even if many people who wanted to sell on Friday didn't get to do it, the price sucks ass now and there's no point in selling anymore. It's better to wait for it to recover a bit before selling.

Niji is still earning revenue, it's still making a profit. It's actually more profitable now than it was last year. So there is no threat of the stocks reaching a valuation of 0 (bankruptcy). The next time you'll see a big move in the stocks is likely going to be after 4th quarter results. Depending on how good or bad those are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730858
>JP is fine and Petra just got 25k - 30k on her 3D debut which BTFO'd Doki's streams and they had 30K
JP is not fine,look at stock,doki is an indie who mog the ENTIRE nijiEN go check it yourself,3D? what 3D? the only thing ppl know recently is holofest,and 20k for a niji 3D who probably mostly bot? thats REALLY GRIM

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>>71734699
Funnily enough it's more about legality issues of projects. Selen's tournament was blocked due to JP's laws regarding cash payouts, but such an event can be held since tournaments are a thing, just Nijisanji didn't see the potential in such a large in house collaboration. The company was so abysmally short sighted they killed off Pomu's dreams as well. These incidents are public and now anyone with grand aspirations know that it can't be found in Nijisanji. Black Company labels stand as well due to denial of any culpability to the reason why Selen attempted suicide. Protecting the perpetrators and keeping them in house. This is why Niji is a sinking yacht, it has holes and just one good rumor will tear into it and combine with the other holes making a big one.
There are the few who are actively looking to poke at it everyday as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731501
Jesus. The fleshtwitchers I watch pull more than those for christ's sake.

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>>71734703
She blackmailed them before the notice. If you could read complex English, you'd know that and you'd know she followed through on the blackmail. Then when they kept fighting back, she revealed a SECRET NEVER BEFORE SEEN SECOND ATTEMPT. I wonder what she'll reveal next after there's more push back

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734834
>Yagoo keeping alive the tradition of ancient Roman triumfs while your enemies lie in shambles
We're just lacking the ritual executions at the end in front of the Temple of Jupiter

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734897
Again, perms from who? Nina and Mysta? They don't own the fucking IP and they never did. Nijisanji owns the IP and as such they had all the say. They fucked Selen over god only knows why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729124
>not buying the dips over and over

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>>71734989
>They don't own the fucking IP and they never did
Says who? You? Cause Nijisanji clearly states the assets and works belong to them. And I know you don't know more about Nijisanji then they do

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734980
NDF isn't really trying anymore huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734951
maybe nijisanji is so reluctant to do big projects because they're too cheap to hire real lawyers lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729537
>5 days
WOOOOOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734897
Elira changed the rules to make selen look worse and screw her over, NijiEN is a cesspit of mediocrity and the only two talents worth a fuck, Selen and Pomu, Where both kicked out for trying too much and not coasting on horniness and luck like the rest of the retards

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>>71734897
>the rules
that she didn't know even existed before they were applied to her
makes you wonder if such rules were made up just before just to fuck with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731580
>thinking holofans in twitter like nijisister
someone can be this retarded and clueless KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734384
This one’s not directly drama related, they’re saving that bombshell for Q4 and the year-end report. Q3 report (before any of the real drama happened) showed them missing their growth targets after failing to do so previously. This is paired with EN, which is supposed to be a major engine for growth, declining by 40%. Nijifes being moved to Q3 barely softened the blow of JP’s stagnation, and they’ve shunted a portion of the merch sales for that to Q4 to try to staunch the bleeding there. Q4, which is historically their weakest quarter, will have to outperform their best quarter ever by 20% just to meet their growth targets for the year. Riku has no plan on how to accomplish this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731580
You faggots harassed Nina the same way you harassed Scarle, but worse. Holofags didn’t have to do anything, you did it yourselves

[Anonymous No.]

Hold on, what is with the esl retards calling it a 'cat dead bounce' instead of a 'dead cat bounce'?
Is it their languages' svo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734980
and Nijisanji was so scared of her "threats" because the blackmail was fake? lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735096
ESLs can't into word order

[Anonymous No.]

>>71729731
Shit sister you're right, zoom in enough and there really is a micropenis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735021
They have numerous hurdles they can't logically pass anymore. >>71735016 is a good example of it. Nijisanji is very clear in termination clauses that they will obtain all rights of their IP, fuck they will even take the livers equipment out of their homes if they live in Japan. Keep in mind EN profited off Selen's termination contained in the last part of the termination letter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735120
Just like how false murder or rape accusations look really bad for people, being accused of any serious harmful crime looks bad for companies too. Glad you're learning

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734980
This has to have been written by a bot made to shit the threads further.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735184
so let me get this straight
Selen said, "If you don't pay me $100,000, I'll tell everyone that you bullied me."
And Nijisanji said "NUH-UH" and shot themselves in the face in response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734733
NIJICOPE LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734834
Not quite. Q4 is usually fairly weak for streaming revenue because of the post-holiday slump, so they’re offsetting it with their biggest event of the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735215
nah they're sisters and they DO IT FOR STEAM GIFTCARDS

[Anonymous No.]

>>71732915
>She just sent lawyers at them
so shes smart and you are dumb?

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>>71734980
>She blackmailed them before the notice
Nijisanji claimed she did, they claimed a lot of things that were also lies, Like how they said selen was lying when she said they privated her video.. before saying they privated her video a paragraph later, also lying about damaging 3rd party brands when she wasn't in violation for that either... hmm.. who's word do i trust again?
>If you could read complex english
"If you could just please suck down my fetid bullshit" no i don't think i will
>You'd know that and you'd know she followed through on the blackmail
Actually she said nothing and said she wanted to drop it, said she hadn't even thought about them since she got fired, said she wanted to leave the past in the past and let bygones be bygones, but THEY forced her to keep RESPONDING to THEIR attacks
>Then when they kept fighting BACK
>Fighting BACK
They were the only ones fighting inbred invalid, kill yourself
>She revealed A SECRET NEVER BEFORE SEEN SECOND ATTEMPT
Which was entirely irrelevant to killing off nijisanji cause everyone ALREADY HATED THEM FOR COUNTERPROGRAMMING HER NEOPETS STREAM, TRYING TO INCITE A PUBLIC BREAKDOWN IN HER, CALLING HER NEGLIGIBLE, AND FIRING HER WITH BULLSHIT LIES, YOU FUCKING INBRED RETARDS S E R I O U S LY THINK THAT HAD ANY RELEVANCE AT ALL?, FUCKING SHUT UP
>I wonder what she'll reveal next after there's more push back
There will be no push back, Unless you count inbred invalids like you shitting up 4chan more, but she doesn't come here like your retarded organs do, She has moved on,l been moved on for over a month now, She couldn't give less of a fuck about you shit skins and she never did, How about for the "next attempt" You do it yourselves and show her it can be done in one try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734426
>EVERY SINGLE DAY
Come on man, we just lost mel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734668
chinese hololive fans harassed coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735262
More like she said to unsuspend her or she'll go off the handle, they said no then she sent evidence she would sue them so they immediately fired her and told everyone that she planned on smearing them to which she actually did. You're nearly there

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734935
Would stock even reach 0 if they have actual physical assets (and IP)? Wouldn't bankruptcy just be stock price below value of all physical assets so they're not liquid anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734269
>Why is nijifag ITT suddenly a finance expert?
because they are a faggot? or have you ever heard nijisister? aka asylum patient

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735414
>told everyone that she planned on smearing them
lol why are you just making shit up now
show me where Nijisanji said this

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735326
>s-she moved on!!!!
Thats why she copied her niji fanname? Thats why she gloated about the youtube playbutton? She'll never move on. Her entire existence was being Selen and still is. Niji lives in her head rent free forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734597
>You lost that right when you decided you can use and abuse talent like sayu & selenl
they are nijisanji sister,not hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735326
She blackmailed Niji into writing a very revealing Termination notice of their actions and faults. Always makes me smile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735184
Oh you are one of those
>Being falsely accused of rape is worse than being raped
Inbred rejects, Lemme just make it clear, The ONLY side saying that selen was going to publicly accuse Niji of ANYTHING was Niji themselves.. doki has said multiple times she just wanted to move on... and now she HAS moved on, so... now nijisanji look like a bunch of retarded liars.. and they ARE a bunch of retarded liars cause they've lied about so many OTHER THINGS constantly already, Where as selen/doki hasn't lied about anything at all, Or atleast anything that can be proven to be lies unlike nijisanji which literally proved themselves to be lying in their revised responses

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735273
Except they don't really follow a typical financial year don't they? Since a bulk of SCs and merch probably come right after/on 3D lives, birthdays and anniversaries? So they can strategically position future talents' (or current ones') lives/streams appropriately for maximum profit?

[Anonymous No.]

Selen: Give me what I want or I'll make you look bad.
Nijisanji: Not if we make ourselves look bad HARDER!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734689
>I'm not going to watch hololive with you
no one want to watch holo with mentally ill twittard sister,no thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735548
Sure, like Enna's birthday... when she got mogged by a piece of paper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734897
>they had perms
nijisanji OWN then sister,pls use brain atleast once

[Anonymous No.]

i will say its nice of nijiniggers to keep bringing this whole debacle up so we wont forget. its not like theyll try to completely memoryhole this entire event

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735576
>no one want to watch holo
Fixed

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735483
Dragoons is a real word and cannot be trademarked. Lmao.
The playbutton thing is and always has been complete bullshit. They cost like a 100 bucks to duplicate. Cover gives one to the talent and buys the duplicate to display. Anycolor doesn't even allow the talents to buy the duplicate with their own money. Why?
All the things you've listed are BASED on her part.

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>>71735414
>unsuspend her
alright, "nearly there" anon
what was the term of her suspension? indefinite is a funny word
what was the requirements for her unsuspension? for her to take all the blame to make niji look clean, after suicide attempt that their actions caused
what did she really want? out but with her channel archive kept alive

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735326
HAHAHA. An actual holokiddy is here. They never said Selen lied about them privating the video, they said she omitted context for why they did. You can't read. She also did damage third party brands after getting her Resident Evil stream perm nuked and claiming to have perms for a fall guys tournament she didn't have. Keep on sucking Dokicock though
>"If you could just please suck down my fetid bullshit" no i don't think i will
Clearly English isn't your strong suit. sorry for asking
>Actually she said nothing and said she wanted to drop it,
As she releases multiple tweets about them and accuses them of multiple crimes. It's not good to be so angry as a child, it could lead to anger management issues. Please calm down and drink your juice box or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735483
>She copied her niji fanname
Anycolor doesn't own the word dragoons, She made that up the first time, she gets to keep it, keep seething
>That's why she gloated about the youtube playbutton?
So did Kuro, So did Matara, So does E V E R Y single youtuber who has ever gotten a silver playbutton, Cope harder
>She'll never move on
She already has, YOU'LL never move on though, and that is delicious.. also very sad
>Her entire existence was being Selen and still is
Nah, Nijisanji EN is nothing without her and pomu, They can rot in the ditch of irrelevancy they dug themselves
>Niji lives in her head rent free forever
Nope.. But dokibird lives rent free in the niji organ's heads forever, And their retarded inbred third world dickriders like you ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735016
>Says who? You? Cause Nijisanji clearly states the assets and works belong to them
are you really that dumb? or BLIND? nijisanji OWN them,not nina or mysta

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735715
So you want me to trust you over the people who actually know who the assets belong to? Fuck off, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735422
Debtholders are first in line to get anything from bankruptcy, and they will surely have plenty of debt before going bankrupt. The stockholders will get wiped out. In any case, there is no chance they'll go bankrupt at least based on current financial information so it's not important anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735582
? I was talking about Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735483
anon... the name 'Dragoons' is a real world term, Nijisanji CANNOT copyright it. Nijisanji CANNOT own it. Doki has all the right in the world to choose that name as she pleases. and Nijisanji as no right in the world to be assmad that Doki used that word for her fanbase. Please stop being so retarded ok?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735796
Okay, fucktard, why is Matara still not Nina to this day? Why is Kuro not Mysta? Why don't they stream as their previous selves? Why did they need to design new characters for reincarnations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735682
Usually when you fuck up at work enough, you get fired. The fact she wasn't immediately fired and instead only had to own up to her blatantly breaking the rules is more generous than the average employer. Instead she tried to side step accountability by blackmailing people and getting her way. If she wanted out, she'd have said so instead of waiting until the end of January to say anything about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735639
>>71735704
>>71735863
>Dragoons is a real word!!!
So? She literally had a fanbase name already. Bark knights. You'd know that if you were a real Doki fan that followed her before Niji. She had no reason to change it other than the fact she couldn't move on. It would be sad if it wasn't so funny. Your argument is nothing but pure cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735907
Joint IP ownership. Simple concept

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735699
>They never said Selen lied about them privating the video, they said she omitted context for why they did
Context they then lied about, Saying she lacked permissions from IP holders related to the video.. which she didn't
>She also did damage third party brands after getting her resident evil stream perm nuked
Reimu was the one who got RE perms nuked for the whole branch, Just like how Luca got perms nuked for all fromsoft games forever by "forgetting" to turn off superchats while streaming elden ring
>Claiming to have perms for a fall guys tournament she didn't have
She had fall guys perms from epic games, She just didn't suck elira's clit hard enough to be allowed to stream it so it got shit canned
>As she releases multiple tweets about them and accuses them of multiple crimes
She did?, I don't think she ever did, You're thinking of nijisanji which did that multiple times before doki ever said a single thing, Kill yourself, and your whole inbred retarded kind, invalid

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735911
>more generous than the average employer.
Average employees don't generate millions in revenue. Holy fucking shit TND can't come soon enoug

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735801
The Yacht IS a physical asset anyway
I wonder what happens to the characters' IPs in the event of liquidation. Like, can you (another company) actually buy or repossess the Selen Tatsuki character rights?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71734699
>KEK Apparently the manager not bitching and moaning but instead remaining professional and immediately getting to work is proof they knew about the graduated members being in the video. You fuckers are genuinely clowns
nijisis
obviously if she threw new project on him with 1 day till release he would be like "uuuuh it will take a lot of time to get all the perms to I'll get to you" or something like that
instead he was ghosting her for hours and hours and got fuck all perms without proper explanation (or more like niji didn't show us explanation as it's compromises their fucking bullshit. we know what it was anyway)

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735990
The yacht is owned by the corporation? And yes, IP would be sold. Can't imagine it being worth all that much, though, since Selen without the tomato inside is kind of pointless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735943
If she joined any other vtuber corp as a dragon, she was going to call them dragoons. That's not a Niji trademark idea. They funnily enough don't own any IP to the name besides the mascot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736055
Probably iconic branding at least. The Gura and Peko character IPs are probably worth a lot even without Gura and Peko voicing them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735962
This is just full of blatant lies. They said graduated members own assets so they do because they know more about the company then you. RE perms and From software perms were never nuked. Ike had a dark souls stream two days ago. She didn't have fall guys perms since they weren't renewed by her own words. And the only person accusing people of crimes is Selen. Keep trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735911
Early January she was recovering while ghosting the source of her trauma.
Mid January said source got to her anyway and demanded her to take the blame, or else. Resulting in another attempt
Late January actually smart people got lawers involved, shielding her from direct abuse.
Niji simply didn't fire her asap because they thought they could milk her more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736090
>>71736055
Actually, I just realized, the character IPs would probably be workable as anime or game characters in the event of the company's demise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735974
I agree. Nijisanji is very generous. Even a 23 year old like Mysta is rich enough to buy a house in this economy. It takes a special kind of bitch to betray them

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736122
Kill yourself, and your kind, Kill your whole inbred retarded kind

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736141
Wait. Selen tried to kill herself TWICE?
Was it pills both times? Or did her dad find her half-asphyxiated hanging from a ceiling fan or something? I just remember her saying her dad crying broke her, didn't realize that was probably the second attempt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736142
anon you could make Gura stickers after 40 years of her retiring from streaming completely and chumbuds would still be buying them

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735956
https://watanabe-rc.com/2022/06/25/japanese-government-to-tackle-problem-of-jointly-owned-patents-between-universities-and-industry/#:~:text=Joint%20ownership%20is%20an%20easy,all%20the%20other%20joint%2Downers.
Joint ownership is an easy compromise for both parties, but it can lead to troublesome problems later on. This is because the Japanese Patent Law stipulates that no joint-owner may assign his/her share of the patent or grant a license to any third party without the consent of all the other joint-owners

There. Now, who is it more likely to have fucked Selen over with the MV if your stipulation about joint IP ownership was true? Nina and Mysta? They never had any animosity with Selen. However, having witnessed the utter disaster they inflicted upon themselves by smearing her, it's far more likely that it was Nijisanji who fucked with her during the production of the MV since they were seen fucking with her during her termination and its aftermath.
AGAIN. It is VERY unlikely that joint IP ownership is applicable in case of Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735548
Yes, Cover has done plenty to counter the general trend. Biggest event of the year, a lot of birthdays are in this quarter (Mumei is the only one in Promise who doesn’t have a late February/March birthday, for example), with the associated 3D Lives, you get the idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736220
>chumbuds would still be buying them
I know.
I'm one of them, man.
>Gura daki 2040 edition

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736229
sisters are going fucking crazy with the cope holy shit...
now they came up with joint IP ownership nonesense...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736213
She tried the rope but was too fat for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735636
>no one want to watch holo
get out of /vt/ sister,a lot of ppl do,just not with you

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736229
I very much doubt that Nijisanji grants joint IP ownership to any of its talents, especially if the leaked contracts have any kind of veracity

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735943
>You'd know that if you were a real Doki fan that followed her before Niji.
Don't you dare fucking claim in my face that you were a Day 1 bark knight when you are the one ATTACKING HER, you colossal cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735943
>>71735943
you are the retard if you seriously believe that Doki mandatorily HAS TO choose a different name other than Dragoons just because she previously used the same name in her tenure as Selen. There is no rule against it. Nijisanji canot claim that word. and a large majority of her fans wanted to retain that word, why deny them?
>b-bu-but she couldn't move on!!!!
again retard, other than the sheer coincidence that she used the name Dragoons for her fanbase, what else did Doki said/imply in her recent streams that has something to do with Niji at all? Did she directly
Amentioned anyone from Niji in any of her recent streams? Did she directly mentioned something about Niji from any of her recent streams? If so then you could argue that "sshe couldn't move!" Come on, tell me or show me links that directly show her mentioning any of that in her recent streams/collabs. Coz as far as I could see she is moving on, absolutely successful, absolutely MOGGING NijiEN in views and occasionally even SCs, and Nijisisters are absolutely SEETHING at the fact that Doki is winning and their beloved oshi company is being dragged face-first into the mud.
Go ahead, show me DIRECT PROOF that Doki is seething and malding and coping at Nijisanji like the Nijisisters continue to claim, cmon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736267
Wait, you're right. Bae->Fauna->Kronii->IRyS all had shit within 30-40 days of each other wtf. Omega you sneaky bastard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735943
She wanted to change the name and put it to a vote. If you want to blame someone on that side for not wanting to move on, it’s the Dragoons themselves for even suggesting it as an option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735796
>So you want me to trust you over the people who actually know who the assets belong to?
yeah and Nijisanji are the one who OWN it,so you dont trust them or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736326
naw, her neck was too long. by the time the rope slipped up to her chin, her feet were already on the floor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736229
So basically it's what they did and you don't like that they had to actually get permission from them instead of just ignoring an IP owner so you'll ignore it. Got it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736188
That's not fucking kindness you obnoxious cunt. It's protecting your own ass at that point. Especially when she saw a fraction of it. No one is denying Nijisanji (can be) a profitable gig. There is a reason new recruits aren't fleeing them in droves. In fact, it's the only reason.

That "special kind of bitch" did more to bring up that branch you Nijiniggers fawn over than most of the management in the company ever has. If anything it's crazy their company was so fucking poorly run it could squander someone so loyal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728782
not the 1st thread of these kind , only for a few days later another kurosanji yab happen and well well well

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736339
they won't even give their organs youtube play buttons... idea that they would give them joint ownership is fucking psychotic

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736363
I voted for Freebirds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736122
>They said graduated members own assets so they do because they know more about the company then you
Blatant lies and retardation, They never said anything like that, Actually the contracts state nijisanji owns EVERYTHING an organ interacts with when working under them, So its provably false, also it's "Than", Not "Then" ;)
>RE perms and Fromsoft perms were never nuked
RE perms WERE nuked by reimu shittalking capcom, And Elden Ring perms specifically were what was nuked, Not Fromsoft as a whole, so that anon was partially correct
>She didn't have fall guys perms since they weren't renewed by her own words
She never said anything of the sort, All she said was that she wasn't allowed to hold international tournaments of any kind anymore, Presumably cause management didn't like her taking initiative and making them look bad by not being a lazy POS like the rest of her retarded branch
>And the only persona ccusing people of crimes is selen
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT TERMINATION LETTER AND THE BLACK BOX STREAM THEN?
>She delayed paying artists who worked for her
>She got us in trouble with third party IP holders
>She threatened to dox other livers
>She recorded vox without permission
>She was "blackmailing" us
All of these are claims Nijisanji or the retard trio made against her, Are none of THOSE crimes to you???
>Keep trying
Actually please do, Please keep trying cause you become more and more retarded with each response

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735956
actually retarded,got it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736388
No, schizo. That's your prerogative. They said the assets belonged to the members so they do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736431
I can't wait for 2 years from now where Nijisanji might start to offer play buttons as an option (+ a premium fee) and sisters revise history and try to gaslight everyone into thinking it has always been that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736484
Nah, They'll start offering Livers the chance to buy a framed photo of the Play Button. Deducted from their monthly pay of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736267
>>71736359
I think it's more like they picked those days because they already filled up the more desirable seasons with previous talents. They did it so that Council wouldn't be competing with JP and Myth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71735956
>source: came to me in a dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736464
They don't belong to the members though

[Anonymous No.]

>>71731657
You know that the effects of holofes on the stock will only be visible at least 1 month from now right ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736398
Classic sister, ignoring presented arguments.
Let's back up a bit.
>>71735016
>And I know you don't know more about Nijisanji then they do
>So basically it's what they did and you don't like that they had to actually get permission from them instead of just ignoring an IP owner
Do YOU know for sure that the Nina and Mysta IPs are in joint ownership between Nijisanji and Matara/Kuro? No you don't.
Do YOU know that if it was, it was Nina nad Kuro who fucked Selen over? No you don't. That one also straight up does not correlate with context of subsequent behaviour of NijiEN's management - i.e., the release of the fucking termination notice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736574
Maybe even later.
When does SPWN and/or the venueor the ticketing service remit Cover's cut anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736464
>They said the assets belonged to the members so they do.
Who's "they"? Are you claiming that Nijisanji said the talents own the IP?

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>>71736437
>Actually the contracts state nijisanji owns EVERYTHING an organ interacts with when working under them,
Article 12 paragraph 1. Gonna need some proof of any perms being nuked
>She never said anything of the sort
https://youtu.be/_G_G8mF4FVM?si=pYdj2yrtM3aYWmL5
>WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT TERMINATION LETTER AND THE BLACK BOX STREAM THEN?
Your mask is slipping. They never accused her of any crimes. Delayed payment isn't illegal. Streaming a game without permission isn't illegal. Elira never said she was doxxing her address, just alluding to her location. Blackmail in negotiations also isn't illegal. Threats to sue for harassment aren't illegal either. Learn the law

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736531
There’s plenty of JP birthdays this quarter as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736607
>>71736229
>>71736316
>>71736339
>>71736388
>>71736437
>>71736438


Holofags seethe

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>>71736188
>Nijisanji is very generous. Even a 23 year old like Mysta
mysta .literally shit on niji after joining vshojo about how awful and incompetent niji is

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737063
BELONG TO PARTY A
YOU FUCKING IDIOT

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737125
Not that ,you retard. Read the whole thing.
>Third party with license granted by party
>The entirety of article 5

It's right there. ESL faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737063
you just posted a section that says everything belongs to Nijisanji, and even if it belongs to the talent, it actually belongs to Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>71736437
>RE perms WERE nuked by reimu shittalking capcom, And Elden Ring perms specifically were what was nuked, Not Fromsoft as a whole, so that anon was partially correct
actually no. plenty of niji played ER after. It was just a matter of confirming what moentization was like for them they stopped for like a week only. Same for RE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737215
What the fuck do YOU think that says? It's just saying that the talent can't do shit if Nijisanji wants to let someone else use the IP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737063
>"but hololive"
what about it sister,what about hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737215
You better fucking hope this contract draft gets 100% debunked in the future, because you just destroyed your own joint IP ownership argument. Party A is Nijisanji, you fucking ESL mongoloid

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737240
Do I have to get a fucking highlighter so the children can follow along? It says third party and mentions the author of works created during performance . Which means the people behind the character. How much do you want your hand to be held?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737215
>Third party with license granted by "PARTY A",LICENSE GRANTED BY PARTY A
sister,READ

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737351
The talent is Party B, not a third party, you retard. And it says NOTHING about a third party having ownership of the IP, just a license to use it. And it section 4 it even says that if Party B (the talent) acquires any copyrights, they are AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFERRED TO NIJISANJI.

YOU UTTER MORON.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737215
third party is not the liver numbnuts
so in a case solely with nijisanji (party A) and the liver (party B) only party A owns anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737323
Article 4, article 5. The existence of third parties holding ownership over characters. This is some premium grade retardation if you can't read 5 short paragraphs

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737351
I think you're legit retarded, anon.
Organs don't create their visual appearance. These moral rights are for the stuff that organs create themselves, like singing and drawing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737454
please take your meds,any meds for you eyes and your fuckng brain,the entire article is literally showing "NIJISANJI HAVE FULL CONTROL"

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737430
Okay, now read article 4 slowly and tell me what it means

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737454
Which is none until Party A deems it necessary to grant a license of use, which is not and has never been ownership.
Not even the original character designers have any ownership.
Take the L, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737613
Sorry, I was so enraged by your incompetence that I wrote section 4 instead of section 3.

Section 3 says that if the talent ever creates something while working for Nijisanji, ownership is transferred to Nijisanji automatically.

Section 4 says that if for some reason Nijisanji and the talent ever decide that the talent owns something, Nijisanji is allowed to use it anyway for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737635
They specifically mention agreements existing that give the member/ a third party rights to the character as it titled the "ownership of rights" section. Thanks for proving you would fail English class

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737751
>license means ownership because "ownership" is in the title
you have to be trolling, there's no way you're actually this stupid

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>>71737063
This is just sad at this point. If you aren't trolling you should brush up on your engllish and debate skills and just feel fucking humiliated by posting this.

This still says Nijisanji owns the fucking thing just that they, for some arbitrary reason, might require a third party to have to get a license to use what they own. And that third party probably isn't even referring to a talent. And even if that was the case, you'd then need a license to include ANY liver past or present in your video using this as an argument.

And even if ALL OF THAT were wrong you don't think the "you need permission to use past members" clause wouldn't have come up sooner than fucking 2024 if its application was already set in the contract?

>>71737613
It means that there may be a situation or agreement where some arbitrary copyrighted thing produced by a talent X COULD be owned by a talent. It means such a circumstance COULD exist but given the surrounding context (Nijisanji saying they own everything) there's no reason to assume 1. it does or 2. this has always been the case. And again, NONE of this has to do with graduations or graduated talents.

There is basically one reason the company might do this: to avoid talents bitching. "Wah my coworker used my orisong!" or some shit.

Otherwise, it benefits basically no one. It adds extra red tape to projects, it doesn't even seem to be implemented consistently (or even at all before December as far as we know), and so forth.

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>>71737716
So there is documented evidence of agreements regarding IP rights being so common that they're in the contract as well as different article about parties not being able to ignore rights of a third party (other members) that constitute as authors. Proving that Selen was rightfully fired and they weren't making shit up. Another L for Holofags

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737921
absolutely none of that follows from anything said by you, me, or the contract itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>71737921
>none of these sections grant joint ownership over the characters, only handle situations in case of a joint IP ownership

functionally braindead comprehension

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>>71737971
Okay. I'll make it simple enough for a baby to understand
>Party A is Nijisanji
>Party B is person signing
>Third party means other members
Article 1 proves that Nijisanji would require a license from a third party to use IPs.
Article 4 proves agreements between A and B about character rights are so common, they're mentioned in the contract.
Article 5 proves that third parties would be people considered authors of the works created during the performance of the character. Like live streaming or music

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738197
>Third party means other members
that's wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738260
So you're saying article 5 is just a lie and isn't real

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738288
article 5 is parties divorced from anycolor, Think pop up cafes, merch deals, brand deals etc etc
Party A is nijisanji, Party B is the person playing the vtuber

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>>71738197
Third party does not mean other members. Third party is referring to things like sponsors or artists.
Article 1 doesn't "prove" that Nijisanji requires a license, it's saying that Nijisanji HAS a license, all of the rights granted by the license belong to Nijisanji and not the talent.
Article 4 does not prove agreements about character rights are common. The contract mentions many things that are rare contingencies. You're an idiot.
Article 5 says nothing of the sort. It's saying the opposite of what you think it says. It says that the talent is not allowed to use "the moral rights of the author" against Nijisanji, who holds the legal rights, not the moral rights.

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>>71738197
Premise falls apart when you consider that
1. IF the third party is another member (called henceforth Liver 2) they would also be subject to article 1
2. Whatever they create is party A's IP and Party A may freely use said IP even if they're just co-owners. (article 1)
3. Therefore Liver 1 simply has to ask for Nijisanji's (Party A) permission, as they own the IP

Just take the L retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738379
Why in the fuck would they consider cafes to be the moral authors of the Vtubers works during their existence and why would they give ownership of their own creations to other companies just because they were sponsored by them?

This is actually high grade cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738543
The contract says nothing about third parties having moral rights. Read it again. It's saying that if Nijisanji grants a license to a third party (a cafe), the talent is not allowed to use their moral rights against that third party (the cafe).

[Anonymous No.]

iTT retards above can't read
and retards fighting the retards that can't read
it was fun laughing at you

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738543
I beg of you to learn English before speaking.

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>>71738543
>Why in the fuck would they consider cafes to be the moral authors of the Vtubers works during their existence
Two different articles cover those cases, actual zero reading comprehension on display.
>why would they give ownership of their own creations to other companies
That's the neat part, they don't

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738613
Fucking voyeur

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738446
Your entire premise falls apart when you realize people who graduate leave the company and sign a different form. Also in that party A is the one being granted use of rights from a third party and not the other way around

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738720
>Also in that party A is the one being granted use of rights from a third party and not the other way around
You do realize that the contract was MTL'd and that part makes no fucking sense?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738720
I guess Nijisanji magically decides that their IP goes to them when up until then it belonged solely to party A.
Disregarding the part that you yourself mentioned that they are free to do with co-owned properties as they please.

A very magical cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738543
I honestly thought education in china was better

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738599
Wrong, the third party being granted a license isn't the same as an author with moral rights over the work because that's not real. Note the COMMA meaning it's about a different subject. It's basic English

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738858
You're being obtuse. The contract isn't saying that existing IP that Nijisanji already owns is transferred to Nijisanji. It's saying that any NEW IP (i.e. streams) automatically become Nijisanji's property the moment they are created.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738886
Chinese students fuck off to study to Russia and Eastern Europe, where education definitely sucks balls

[Anonymous No.]

>>71738925
>reading comprehension failure again
Yes, and for some reason this ownership of the IP changes on graduation because?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739024
because it doesn't
Nijisanji EN's managers are just retarded and/or vindictive

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739084
not sure I'm arguing with the same anon then
I'm very much on board with nijisanji owning ALL rights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739024
Because they signed a form where they hold partial ownership as they are the moral author of the works while performing as the character. Fucking ESL dramafags

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine your entire cope about your shit company full of trashy people who can't produce any kind of Kino be "lestock lol"
Not to mention how hard a hit they took and how bad it will get when they get in the next report with the actual consequences of the Selen disaster

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739142
>moral author
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739142
Moral author does not mean partial ownership. Moral author is a specific term that grants the creator rights other than ownership.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739238
There's no such thing as moral author, only moral rights if the author.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739295
whatever, you know what I mean
it's all moot anyway because the contract says that the talent forfeits all moral rights in disputes against Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739238
Great. Never said that because they were an author they got rights. I'm saying Nijisanji had them sign a form giving them partial ownership over the rights because they're morally the authors of the works. Which would make them the third parties mentioned that Nijisanji has to get permission from. Learn what words mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>71728833
true dat, also in /#/ sometimes there's an actually knowledgeable biz bro answering retards questions

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739410
>Party B is also the third party
jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739410
>morally the authors
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739410
>co-ownership bullshit
"nina" is not co-owned by the liver. This is outright stated to solely belong to party A.
They gave up all rights to works created in the "course of vtuber activities".

If they graduate they still own nothing. Party A holds all the rights to the character and anything they did while being that character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739470
Once someone ends their contract, they are no longer binded by it. So once they're out through signing the form, they are the third party Nijisanji has to get a licence from and they're not party b anymore. I actually don't know how much more simple to make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739664
that would be great for your argument if they had ownership over the IP, but they don't and never did and never will

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739664
this has to be a troll
but in case you're actually that retarded
Too bad nijisanji already took all rights in the course of the contract when you agreed tto it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739459
Yeah we need to see the end of week, nikkei is having a significant surge and so far niji stock growth has been below what would be average which is concerning, stock will still grow but it won't reach pre-crash levels anytime soon and Q4 is looking far worse than Q3 in which EN lost 40.3% so we will probably see growth followed by another crash in mid June, another crash Niji won't recover from because of Riku's delusional claims in the last few days, he claims this Q4 will be the best in the company's history yet all the data says it's the exact opposite

[Anonymous No.]

>>71739737
Too bad in the contract they explicitly said they don't own all the rights and they need a third party to license use of their IPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>71730428
wait what is this a new educate yourself moment dropped? I was busy with 5th Fes