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I've seen some big indies graduated recently. definitely not a sign of en4 or whatever english branch they decide to debut this year, right?

>> No.71365003

>>71364491
New NijiEN wave

>> No.71365113

>>71364491
Maybe not this year. They usually do at least one year of group training before debuting for Hololive.

>> No.71365160

>>71365113
dyrbi

>> No.71365292

not really
we'll find out soon but en4 and id4 seem to be delayed so cover can do some other dumb shit we'll all hate
idol is debuting about fifteen girls this year (huge mistake in their current depressed state)
niji pumps out a new failed gen every few weeks, but nobody notices

>> No.71365349

>>71365160
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.71365424

All of them are European as well, whether this means anything, seems unlikely

>> No.71365449

>>71364491
Wasn't idol debuting 6 girls? Not counting the Hebrew ones getting absorbed into EN

>> No.71365476

>>71364491
Yeah, word going around with all the talent agency staff is that Cover's been shopping since January

>> No.71365525

>>71364491
Cover is very meticulous and choosy about who they hire, especially after Rushia, so I can't imagine them doing EN4 selections until the end of the year at the earliest.

>> No.71365652

>>71365449
with their current state, nah. the only corp worth leaving a decent indie career are vshojo or holo

>> No.71365719

>>71364491
lol no

>> No.71365739

Only nijisanji or vshojo hires based on numbers, holo takes 1-2views usually

>> No.71365761

>>71365449
What does it take to get into idol anyway? An early life section?

>> No.71365845

>>71364491
ID and EN both announced auditions last year.

>> No.71366200

>>71365292
> idol is debuting about fifteen girls this year (huge mistake in their current depressed state)
that’s including idolES right? not as bad if they aren’t competing with each other.

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71366351

EN4 is on hold until she escapes the plantation

>> No.71366391

>>71366351
Not if she's going 0-2 after sandbagging

>> No.71366813

>>71364491
Cover USA is a sign they will be investing more heavily into the EN market so their will definitely be an EN4 in 2024 and EN5 in 2025. Hololive wouldn't spent that much on opening a subsidiary unless they were already planning on yearly gens which is what they did with the JP branch.

>> No.71366907

>>71364491
getting into holo is like winning the lotto. So its more than likely a new NijiEn wave as much as I hate to say it

>> No.71367006

>>71366907
Why would anyone graduate to join NijiEN?

>> No.71367170

>>71367006
>fame
>fortune
Pick your poison. Anyone smart enough to be big is smart enough to know this drama will go away like a fart in the wind.

>> No.71367645

>>71366813
>Hololive wouldn't spent that much on opening a subsidiary unless they were already planning on yearly gens which is what they did with the JP branch.
We haven't gotten a new JP branch in like three years. Their USA studio is just to organize events there more easily, and avoid months of shipping for the merch.

>> No.71367744

>>71367645
Re_Gloss

>> No.71367930

>>71367744
Re_Gloss is not a part of the JP branch anon, they're in another branch. Either way, it would still be false even if you included them since nothing released in 2022.

>> No.71368359

>>71367930
Reread the post I replied to.

>> No.71369439

>>71364491
The fucking indies are always graduating. It's a revolving door of shit.

>> No.71373564

>>71365424
HoloEU because Yunii's too big to have graduated for Niji and her voice is too unattractive for EN. But a super thick Italian accent would fit an EU-focused branch perfectly.

>> No.71373636

>>71364491
Who?

>> No.71377435

>>71364491
Holo isn't as autistic about numbers anymore. Some in Promise and Advent were tiny.

>> No.71377501

>>71364491
Nah, new Idol gen, apparently.

>> No.71377669

>>71377435
Wasn't Bijou their smallest pick so far or was there someone else?

>> No.71377686

They've got Cover USA so I'm guessing near the end of this year or summer. Gotta figure out a date so as not to overlap a recent members anniversary or birthday.

>> No.71377810

>>71377669
IIRC FWMC & Biboo was a 2view, not sure about the rest.

>> No.71377834

>>71377669
Bijou or Ame, I think.
>JD0ND
BIBOO STOP

>> No.71378029

>>71377810
>>71377834
Kind of nuts how badly Cover is mogging Niji 2023 gens with a bunch of 2view recruits then. What was Niji's last gen called again? Pretty sure Biboo alone has more subs than all of them combined.

>> No.71378669

>>71367645
Idol Corp and Vshojo don't ship from Japan and neither of them have managed to ship a single thing to me in almost a year and 3-4 months past when they said shipping would be. At least Hololive manage to ship on time. Shipping taking forever isn't really just a location thing, companies in the USA and elsewhere have even more problems shipping a few bits of plastic and some plushies.

>> No.71383527

>>71377810
nerissa had a 200k yt channel, shiori a 400k sub channel.

>> No.71383543

>>71364491
What if they join Phase instead?

>> No.71383686

>>71369439
Normally I'd agree with you but these arent some small 3k twitter vtubers just being done

Of the ones I saw, all happened in like a 2-3 day period and all have graduation dates in mid march, and all had fairly big to outright large followings for indies.

its not nothing

>> No.71384208

>>71364491
The timespan of the graduations is whatever, what's sus is they are all european.

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>>71378029
Luck is literally the biggest factor, doesnt matter how fun or talented you are.
I watch a youtuber whose big first "milestone" was buying a gourmet burger,he was really happy about it because he literally spent a year streaming to three people.
Cover has a good idea of what people want, so they can cast a wide net and filter it until they get something good, which is good because it prevents the problem of
>If you dont have X numbers, Holo is out of your reach

>> No.71384668

>>71383686
Were they at least good fits for hololive or a bunch of vshojo orbiters or something?

>> No.71385192

>>71384668
basedapoya is probably the most "holo material" of the recently graduated ones, though multiple previous ENs PLs were not good holo fits at all and it worked out.

>> No.71385290

>>71364491
Define how "big", but still if i were big enough to go streaming full time i wouldn't leave it - having full control over the content is powerful these days. Unless they don't want to do the heavylifting themselves...

>> No.71385617

>>71365292
>idol is debuting about fifteen girls this year
Source?

>> No.71385746

>>71367170
>know this drama will go away
Enjoy getting grudgeposted to eternity, sister

>> No.71385935
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71385935

Nope, most of them are not joining companies.

The bubble has popped, it's more profitable to work at McDonalds than being a 3 view streamer nowadays. I've been a 2-3 view for many years and the past 6 months have been brutal, many vtubers' income got cut in half or more. It was easy for it to be a full time job even if you were smaller but not anymore.

Back during covid it was very easy to make it, but now everyone is fighting over scraps, burned out and lost.

>> No.71385972

>>71367170
what drama? The working conditions and contract sound like pure shit in nijiEN. why would anyone want to join that kind of work environment filled with highschool tier cliques and awful management

>> No.71386281

>>71385935
Lmao, according to SullyGnome getting that kind of number makes you top 0.5% something something streamer on twitch btw.

>> No.71386462

>>71364491
I think the scenario at the moment is such that if a high 3view/4view indie graduates and is not just quitting vtubing altogether (which is also a possibility) it is very likely they are going holo.
Niji shat the bed with the contract leak and you don't need to give up your character to join Vshojo. There are no other players big enough to justify graduating over just staying indie and not losing your cut.
Maybe some other big player will come in the future or niji will unshit itself but both seem ways off.

>> No.71386550

>>71386281
Yes. Despite many streamers having similar numbers of views compared to some years ago, the donations and revenue given by twitch has become abysmal. Not to mention being in the middle of an unofficial recession, people cannot afford to support vtubers like before.

>> No.71387230

name 5

>> No.71387503

>>71384668
of the one I explicitly remember they seemed above vshojo orbiter like they either would have been in Vshojo since like mouse or never if you get what I mean.

>> No.71387769

>>71386462
If it means anything.

of all the grad announcements ive seen that would apply to this,
none have said "this isnt working out for me finacially anymore"
or
"I've lost the pasion I once had"

and the majority have a "Oh man I hope we meet again someday" line in them somewhere

>> No.71387990

>>71386462
>high 3view/4view indie graduates and is not just quitting vtubing altogether (which is also a possibility) it is very likely they are going holo
Low 3views too, this isn't Nijisanji.

>> No.71388674

>>71386462
>>71387990
Also, before you ask "but what about 2views?", at least for me, and taking luck out of the equation, 2-3view is the minimum barrier to pass.
Maybe there's a good 2view candidate who can't take it seriously due to reasons, but they'd have to prove their dedication, because if you've been a 2view for more than one year, then either
>there are reasons you can't dedicate enough time for you to grow, as stated before
>you're simply not made for it
>you're a terminally online freak
No exceptions, and the last two are a very big majority. Even a history professor managed to break into mid-3view before a year passed after debut.

>> No.71389193

>>71367645
Cover slowed down after releasing 6 JP gens with over 30 Hololive talents. They have been cautious with HoloEN but that is almost certainly going to change after their decision to launch Cover USA. They want to increase the amount of EN merch and releasing more gens helps with that while also bringing in new fans.

>> No.71390745

>>71364491
I hope not none of the indies graduating right now really get my attention

>> No.71393078

>>71365652
This and you need to already be in the Vshojo sphere to get into that.

>> No.71393137

>>71385617
Makes sense really, new branch is debuting this year

>> No.71393223

>>71364491
Who else could it be at this point? Every other vtuber company is flopping hard. The only choises left are Hololive and Vshojo.

>> No.71393355

>>71385935
In the EN side a lot of girl dont really provide the vtuber experience, they are pretty mich just regular streamers with an anime mask on. If you wanna be cynical about it, with the amount of lonely dudes out there nowdays, its the perfect time for JP style vtubing in the west.

>> No.71393426

>>71365449
Are you thinking about kawaii?

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