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70771526 No.70771526 [Reply] [Original]

She hates her western hemisphere audience, doesn't she?

>> No.70771596

>>70771526
all her guests are japanese and its probably going to be live
imma miss it and catch the vod

>> No.70771674

>same time as every other live in Japan
why is this surprising?

>> No.70771831

>>70771526
I literally unsubbed over this (plus she is boring and unsexy!)

>> No.70771853

Better for me than burger time, I'll watch while working from home.

>> No.70771910

>>70771526
Who doesn't besides Kiara and Advent?

>> No.70771971

>>70771526
She's becoming Japanese

>> No.70772694

>>70771831
i can smell your vagina

>> No.70772805

Curious how her numbers will turn out, last I checked she wasn't very popular with the nip audience despite speaking a lot of jap in her streams

>> No.70773281

>>70772694
what are you? a lesbian?

>> No.70773440

>>70771526
learn japanese.

>> No.70773474

>>70771596
an actual live live?

>> No.70773481

>>70773281
yes, post tits

>> No.70773535

>>70773440
learning moon runes won't move the stream to a reasonable hour, dumbfuck

>> No.70773565

>>70771526
>JP timeslot
>JP guests
>JP songs
Irystrocrats are now cucks to JP.

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70773602

>>70773481
you first faggot.

>> No.70773635

>>70771526
she wants to be holojp do desperately. even the jp talent think her actions are desperate.

>> No.70774056

>>70771526
>Imagine not being an ESTchad
Joking asides and I know this is a bait thread, but it's not that bad for PST anons. Just set your alarm clock and go to bed early. EST actually has it tight since it will end at 8:00AM which leaves you only an hour for everything else before work. I'd prefer going to bed early and wake up early (perhaps taking a short nap afterwards).

>> No.70774203

>>70774056
It's fucking horrible for EST too.
Who the fuck has time to watch shit on 7:00 AM on a Thursday?
There is no fucking excuse for this.

>> No.70774281

>>70774056
if this was fauna or something, maybe I would, but I'm not waking up at 4am for irys. she already doesn't care about EN, so I'm done caring about her content.

>> No.70776636

>>70774281
you people never cared about her to begin with; which is why she is done with you.

>> No.70776824

>>70772805
She had 12,000 watching her sing to 1 million subs at 5:00 a.m. this morning. She's been appearing a lot in Japanese streams as well.

>> No.70776923

Delicious, succulent seethe. If you can't wake up for her live or learn enough JP to understand streams you were never a fan to begin with

>> No.70777032

>>70776824
she peaked at 25k you lying nigger

>> No.70777047

>>70776824
>12,000
max ccv was 25,915 according to hololyzer and she was over 20k w/ pekora, miko & others streaming.

>> No.70777311

>>70776923
yeah, I'm not her fan, and other people aren't either, because she does not cater to her English and NA fanbase. that's what we're talking about. it's just disappointing.

>> No.70777585

>>70777311
>she does not cater to her English and NA fanbase.
she has spent her entire career in holo desperately trying to do exactly that only to be treated like a red headed step child on a good day. Thankfully she seems to have learned her mistake last year and has been correcting that.

>> No.70777614

>>70777311
>her usual timeslot is 10pm est
>does one 9pm jst stream
>SHE HATES HER ENGLISH AUDIENCE!!
kys sister

>> No.70777674

>>70777614
Anything to smear people outside of Nijisanji I guess. Deflection always was their favorite tool.

>> No.70777702

>>70777311
>not her fan
>complains about her content
don't you have a black company to defend sister?

>> No.70777745

>>70771526
I get up at 4AM though?

>> No.70777876

>>70773440
>Learn JP to be able to enjoy a branch that's supposed to be for EN speakers
Throat a shotgun

>> No.70778308

Great time for eu bros ( 1 pm ). Will watch for sure.

>> No.70778494

IRyS is one the very best holos for english speakers. atleast 80% of her content is in english, she is literally hololive but in english.

>> No.70778907

>>70778494
im not in the biting mood todat sorry

>> No.70779011

>>70778494
I've learned more Japanese from her streams than from years of watching subbed anime. I want to actually start putting effort into understanding Japanese since I can use deepL for writing

>> No.70779488

note that IRyS has done 3 unarchived karaokes singing english songs in the span on one week and she still gets hate from eop trash. HoloEN should have just been japanese girls speaking english from the very begining, if so we wouldn't have had a lot of the problems we've had along the way.

>> No.70779655

>>70777585
>>70777614
>>70777702
please take your meds. irys is fine, I just don't like her anymore because of shit like OP. please relax until your periods are over.

>> No.70779758

>>70779655
I know you sisters are insane but yout shitposting won't warp reality around your delusions

>> No.70780059

>>70779758
if you think me having mild dislike of irys makes me part of le sisterhood then the NDF fujos have gotten to you mentally and you need to stop using this board. irys is still 10x better than whatever slop niji is shoveling out these days. I wish all the dramafags would get ip banned so this could go back to being a holoboard.

>> No.70780143

IRyS is only for AusGODS

>> No.70780470

funnily enough a certain en member is straight up calling herself holojp and others appeal to jp audience from time to time especially on important occasions but they don't get hate over it. so why the sharp difference in reaction for IRyS; I can only guess it's just plain envy that a japanese vtuber is better at english vtubing than most native en girls.

>> No.70780921

>>70780470
Nah it's that IRyS for a long time has weird haters for some reason and they will bitch about anything.
Another IRyS bait thread is just normal occurrence.

>> No.70781021

i like IRyS. she's not the best singer in EN, but she's decent enough.

>> No.70783761

It is pretty disappointing that Canada and the USA missed out on 2 major achievements of hers this year. Her million milestone and her birthday live. Then again this place always claimed her biggest audience was SEA so the time slot makes sense.

>> No.70784039

>>70778494
It’s actually down to 65%, possibly lower. She spent nearly all her streams in January playing spltoon on flare’s channel

>> No.70786650

Yes, it's a problem. No, it doesn't mean she is Super Satin 3. Boot lickers are just as bad as antis. The reason Hololive is so good is because we've held it to that high standard. Like raising a child, you're not going to let them get away with everything, but at the same time you shouldn't helicopter them. I will continue to hold Hololive and it's members to a higher standard. IRyS has coincidently failed to consider her audience. She can have a JP audience and EN audience, and I would encourage that for all Hololive members, but she has to put some thought into it.

>> No.70788510

>>70777614
>one stream
Yes, her birthday live is just one stream, you're right.

>> No.70788620

>>70777047
>numbers
bots

>> No.70790569

>>70784039
Didn't Kiara get told to stop doing that? Why is it OK for IRyS?

>> No.70790637

I haven't forgotten how you fucks criticized her when she started streaming at 8 pm est after her 2.0 because it "wasn't her time slot". you have never appreciated IRyS no matter how much she tried. FUCK YOU ALL. I'm happy eop vtubing is dying and i'm happy she is finally moving on.

>> No.70790811

>>70790569
Because Irys Bae and Fuwamoco are making the transition to be a weird EN-JP bridge. But it wont work because its more lucritive to go full JP, so they will onevitably lean more towards that way. Just learn to let go and move on, or alternatively learn Japanese.

>> No.70790917

>>70790637
EN isnt dying because ID keeps streaming at least half English for almost every member

>> No.70791126

>>70771526
>prime time jp time
>eu fans always getting the short end of the stick before
this sounds more like a skill issue to me

>> No.70791218

>>70790917
1. The ID branch is not eop.
2. english only vtubing is actually dying because of it's own self destructive tendencies.

>> No.70791239

>>70791126
Because EU dont watch streams and dont superchat. If they did, more Chuubas would cater to them. Its thr most baby form of economics you dumb fuck zoomer

>> No.70791407

>>70771526
When will you stop complaining about this you jealous fucking bitch?

>> No.70791803

>>70790569
Kiara did it poorly where she tried saying something in one language and then repeating the translation right afterwards, that just makes for an awkward stream no audience wants to watch.

IRyS and Fuwamoco have streams where they're 95% one language or the other so it's at least good for one side.

>> No.70792190

>>70790811
>transition
i'm esl does this mean what i think it means?

>> No.70792826

>>70790637
ah yes, back when she was apparently "stealing gura's timeslot"
quite the time to remember

>> No.70792969

>>70771526
Getting up early is good for you.

>> No.70797811

Dude, at least put it on a better time for your English audience! I don't care if you don't have any EN member in the stream! I'm okay with you being a EN but only speaking Japanese in a important event but at least PUT YOUR STREAM ON A BETTER TIME FOR YOUR F AUDIENCE!

>> No.70798000

>>70790569
Rules changed, Kiara could do it as well if she wanted now, even Mori has done a good amount of JP streams

>> No.70798470

>NA hours
30k at best
>JP hours
50k easily
it's all about numbers at the end of the day

>> No.70801418

>>70771831
>-1 trash
>still 1M
she should stream on JP time more
also
>do Karaoke 3 times in western time = 0 subs
>do Karaoke 1 time in JP time = 7k subs
it just a fucking waste of time pandering to EOP

>> No.70804525

>>70771526
https://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/index.html

Please, the birth rate, onegai

>> No.70804873

>>70771526
Kill yourself retard

>> No.70805065

>>70801418
>Wishes she had JP audience
>Wishes she was in the JP branch
>Wishes she was JP
Unfortunately none of that is true.

>> No.70805125

>>70771526
Yes, and the stream will probably be in Japanese too. She needs to understand that she'll never be Japanese.

>> No.70805343

>>70771526
>Gets a gen rebranded specifically to include her
>Ignores her genmates and branchmates, and sucks up to JP instead
what did she mean by this?

>> No.70805558

>>70781021
>she's not the best singer in EN
Rumao. She is and it's not even close.

>> No.70805643

>>70805558
She's the most technically proficiently singer in EN.
That's not the same thing.

>> No.70805720

>>70805643
Who is better than her in EN?

>> No.70805765

>>70805720
Literally nobody

>> No.70805818

>>70805720
Best and better are vague, subjective terms.
I think Kronii, Bae and Gura are better.

>> No.70805853
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70805853

Who even hates on IRyS? She's harmless?

>> No.70805896

>>70805643
Nah, she can't do low notes.

>> No.70805907

>>70805818
>Kronii
>Bae
comedian, Kronii is fucking unreal terrible

>> No.70805969

>>70805853
There have been rrats about her hating and avoiding her genmates and this live lineup does not help matters.

>> No.70806017

>>70805818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNMIQR8k15E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j-ci3kyBtQ
no fucking way you can listen to both of these and actually think Kronii is better

>> No.70806066

>>70805907
>vague, subjective terms
Lets argue about them!

>> No.70806089

>>70805818
You are kidding yourself if you think Kronii is better; I'll let you have Bae and Gura though because they can sing phenomenally well at times.

>> No.70806110

>>70806066
she's literally objectively worse at singing

>> No.70806143

>>70771526
After they harassed her because she collabed with males (and she didn't even know she was going to, thanks HLZNTL), yes, absolutely

>> No.70806342

>>70806017
>comparing random karaoke songs they may or may not have practiced
I like Kronii because I like her voice and her being able to hit the lower register better, not because she is more competent.
But do tell me what I'm supposed to think about my subjective tastes.

>> No.70806354

>>70806143
>After they harassed her because she collabed with males
Playing against holostars who are on the opposite team is barely a collab, she only agreed because she wanted to play with the JP girls
>(and she didn't even know she was going to, thanks HLZNTL)
she confirmed herself with management beforehand that they wouldn't interact beyond being in game with each other, get cancer homobeggar

>> No.70806597

>>70806354
>Playing against holostars who are on the opposite team is barely a collab, she only agreed because she wanted to play with the JP girls
Tell that to her "fans", many of whom became antis
>she confirmed herself with management beforehand that they wouldn't interact beyond being in game with each other, get cancer homobeggar
Did you not watch her dogeza stream? She had to make a fucking public apology about it. And I'm not a beggar, I don't like the homos, and I don't like male collabs either but I'm not going to lose my shit over some dumb "collab" where they play against each other on opposite sides -- I agree with you, it barely counts as a collab. But irystocrats are something else and she LITERALLY had to make a public apology she was getting so much hate for it.

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70806615

>>70806354
Her pathetic backpedaling, placating chat about how she wouldn't even talk to them was when I realized she has no spine and dropped her.
It was sad to watch.

>> No.70806715

>>70806143
the fuck are you on?
she got bigger flak by the bicorns BECAUSE she specified about not interacting with the boys

>> No.70806717

>>70806597
She never apologized for anything you retarded braindead faggot. She got 1 superchat asking about it and she responded.
>>70806615
Cry about it

>> No.70806721
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>>70805969
Ah okay, I see how the lineup would upset some people, but I really doubt she dislikes her genmates. As someone who's performed in bands a lot, lineup is usually a matter of just grabbing whoever is actually available at the time. Is IRyS still in Japan? If the rest of Promise or EN aren't there to practice and perform for it, then the JP lineup makes sense, especially if it wasn't planned out well enough in advance. If she's close enough to Cover's studio she might as well bring some friends there for her live show and of course most of them would be JP in that case.

>> No.70806809

>>70806721
That seems pretty off considering that Bae just did her live and got both EN and JP in it and all of EN have been in JP recently for holofest.

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>>70806143
The only "people" who harassed her over that were homobeggars after she clarified that there would be no voice chat with the homos

>> No.70806858

>>70806615
The collab happened in august of 2023 yet you dropped her in March 2023?

>> No.70806959

>>70806858
I stopped membership because I had too many and was rethinking which ones to keep.
I still watched her until august though.

>> No.70807135

>>70806809
Wait what's the actual lineup? I can't find it anywhere. It would be super weird if at least Bae weren't there.

>> No.70807309

>>70807135
She did a drawing stream where she drew them.
It was 100% JP, Sora, Flare, Azki, Miko, Polka

>> No.70807369

>>70806809
>>70807135
Nevermind saw the doodle stream timestamps. I still doubt at least Bae won't be there and it'll be a surprise or something since it's usually a silly move to reveal everything before a show happens. You could call it cope but it would be super silly to not have one single EN there.

>> No.70807467

>>70807135
>>70807369
it wouldn't be that surprising that bae's not there, rat has been a little busy

>> No.70807478

>>70807369
Considering the timeslot it would be really weird marketing to not reveal any EN if they would be there.
I wouldn't hold your breath.

>> No.70808375

>>70771526
Throws her EN fans for those sweet and juicy JP numbers. Always trying to fit in. First with Council and now with HoloJP. What a numberfag and a social climber.

>> No.70808628

>>70791239
This sounds like circular reasoning to me

>> No.70808658

>>70771526
No it was perfect for Europe.

>> No.70808660

>>70771526
>irys please think of the western wagies WAAAAAAAHHHH!!

>> No.70808871

>>70786650
>Its such a problem, not doing the stuff that a random anon in a bait thread thinks she should do.
Homie, she just crossed a million subscribers & she's got a beloved fangame. IRyS is doing just fine.

>> No.70808955

>>70771526
i wonder how bad the shitstorm will be once the dogs start doing this type of shit

>> No.70809463

>>70808871
It's a bad thing. Can we point out when a bad thing is a bad thing? That doesn't make them a bad person.

>> No.70809682
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70809682

There's this magical thing that happens after a live is done, it gets recorded, and you can like..watch it later.

Isn't that amazing? You don't need to worry about missing it, because you can just watch it later!~

Revolutionary!~

This is extremely weak bait, do better lol.

>> No.70809709

>>70809463
It's not an objectively bad thing. If it's bad for you, you are free to cry about it here as much as you want. Maybe Mr. Jap will read it.

>> No.70809722

>>70808375
I find it funny how council has done so much for her but she has never once tried to pay them back for it and just throws them away lol

>> No.70809810

>>70771526
DO. YOUR. REPS.
LEARN. JAPANESE.
SON. OF. A. BITCH.

>> No.70809880

>>70809722
Yeah that's what we call a social climber.

>> No.70809889

>>70809810
I forgot that learning a new language magically morphs the timezone I live in

>> No.70809965

>>70809709
>>70809682
Are people supposed to be emotionally invested in these things or not. Or is it, you're supposed to be emotionally invested when it's convenient for them and not emotionally invested when it's convenient for them.

>> No.70809972

>>70809889
maybe move to a white country then, miguel

>> No.70810053

>>70809965
People are supposed to be reasonable. And preferably not faggots, but that's too much to ask here.

>> No.70810251

>>70809972
Ah yes, Japan. Such a famously white country.
Same as SEA, truly the last bastions of aryan kinship.

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>>70810053
Can you in any way see why people would have a problem with what IRyS is doing.

>> No.70810390

>>70810251
the stream will be at 1PM for europe

>> No.70810428

>>70771526
Nah, she just hates (You) specifically

>> No.70810493

>>70810310
No. I can see why some people might be upset the live doesn't fit their timezone/schedule but that is inevitable. Life is unfair like that, deal with it. There's always the VOD.

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>>70771526
13:00 CET

>> No.70810762

>>70810493
What about the whole language thing. She's had a persistent pattern of behavior and it's done a toll on her good will.

>> No.70810845

>>70810390
Yeah, and most self respecting people will be at work. Britbongs will have lunchbreak, I guess.

>> No.70810874

>>70810845
There's always Spaniards and Greeks, since they're all unemployed. But that Anon specified "white."

>> No.70811359

>>70810762
What about it? She still speaks English for the most part, unless it's a collab with JP members.

>> No.70811644

>>70811359
You pretending there's not an issue won't change anyone's minds. You know exactly what the problems are and that their are problems. You're just bearing your head in the sand.

>> No.70811924

>>70811644
>won't change anyone's minds
Doesn't need to, it's just a few schizos anyway. You're free to seethe all you want. Just don't breach containment please.

>> No.70812387

>>70811924
When will you learn that avoiding conflicts just means they will come back bigger later.
And we don't have to be hyperbolic about it.

>> No.70813039

>>70812387
Not every little thing (you) don't like equals a conflict. That is xwitter troon mentality.

>> No.70813473

>>70771526
>13:00 CET
sucks to be an amerilard I guess

>> No.70813522

>>70791803
>she tried saying something in one language and then repeating the translation right afterwards
it works perfectly fine for Henya, too. maybe you're just a snowflake?

>> No.70813622

>>70810845
>he can't listen to streams while working

>> No.70813639

>>70771526
HoloJP outside of Flare laugh at her desperate attempts to be as Japanese as possible

>> No.70813802

>>70813039
Don't like, don't watch. That's what people do.
I want people to be free to criticize.
IRyS can stream with JP members only, at JST, while only speaking Japanese, but she should at least acknowledge it or something.
People doubt that she care, that's the main issue. These issues can only be acknowledge and solved if people are free to criticize.

>> No.70814226

IRyS has always blatantly wanted to Be Japanese. Weirdly, she already is japanese in any country but japan.

>> No.70814244

>>70813802
>she should at least acknowledge it or something
What exactly should she acknowledge? That some people wouldn't be able to catch it live? It is rather obvious.
The "speaking Japanese" part is just you seething in advance. There's not much speaking in lives anyway and I doubt she'll shill the merch only in JP.

>> No.70814525

>>70814244
Yeah, I watch the JP members 3Dlive despite them being in Japanese.
The real problem is that people doubt that she cares. A simple acknowledgement shows that she's thinking about her fans. That doesn't have to be the solutions, but it is a solution.

>> No.70814769

>>70814525
Again, acknowledgement of fucking what? That some anons on /vt/ is angry? Yeah, I also doubt she cares much.

>> No.70814810

>>70814769
*are, before grammar nazis come

>> No.70814900

>>70814769
>only anons care
Women should be held accountable, simp.
She could damage her brand or whatever. It her responsibility to manage her brand.

>> No.70815307

>>70814900
>I might go apeshit if something's not to my liking. It's chuuba's responsibility to avoid it!
No it's not. You acting like a hysterical troon is the problem here. Should hold your mom accountable for that

>> No.70815452

>>70815307
You've been hysterical and have been throwing insults this entire time. Are you on your period? This isn't going anywhere. I'm going to sleep. You know I'm right, though.

>> No.70815550

>>70813802
>People doubt that she care(s)
No, (You) doubt it because how dare someone working for a Japanese company speak Japanese.

>> No.70815576

>>70771526
Why not just watch the vod?

>> No.70815582

>>70771526
>PST
なにそれ?www

>> No.70815654

>>70815452
Wait, are you the same retard from the Aki thread?

>> No.70815990

>>70814900
>She could damage her brand or whatever. It her responsibility to manage her brand.
she could damage her brand because...she didn't schedule the concert to cater a certain timezone?
i'm trying to hear you out here but that is a really minor problem you're trying to make here

>> No.70818530

Membership stream right after the concert. She hates the west.

>> No.70818735

>>70818530
good for her, the west has fallen

>> No.70819126

Fine timeslot for me, it's 9 AM.

>> No.70819846

>>70771526
i dont understand why timezones matter
its easy
just dont have a job.

>> No.70820147

>>70771526
Gura is probably the only EN Holo with the clout to pressure Holo JP members to wake up early for a 3D concert in US primetime.

>> No.70820252

Didn't finish reading the thread, but I keep seeing scheduling considerations being a reason why it's at 4am, or for the lineup.

Just like Bae's live, all collab segments were pre-recorded to accommodate for her guests' schedules. She said that during her announcement stream.

If you're gonna form opinions, keep that in mind.

>> No.70820292

I'm watching her sing and dance with Flare live on stage right now and you can keep seething and crying once you wake up. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Enjoy the VOD, you jealous whore!

>> No.70820310

>>70771526
The entire recording process is done in Japan so you get Japan timezone exclusively.
Stupid white pigs can watch the vod roru

>> No.70820439

>>70820147
You know its morning or afternoon in Japan during US primetime?

>> No.70821295

>>70820439
8PM EST/5PM PST is 10AM JST.

>> No.70821755

With Irys being JP now, we have lost yet another HoloEN girl. Can we get gen 4 and 5 now? I have to watch other corpos or indies instead because of no streams.

>> No.70821872

IIT: Burgers seething about the existance of timezones. It's HoloEN not HoloNA, you can deal with it a couple times per year.

>> No.70822024

>>70771596
oh please
she knows more people will watch a live during JP prime time than EN prime time
She's a numberfag now

>> No.70822027

>>70821872
All her top donators are from the US. If she abandons the US timezone then she'll become another Mori.

>> No.70822097

>>70821295
Yes? Most people are awake well before 10am so that is not waking up early

>> No.70822201

>>70771526
Your fault for not be an Aussie ya fat flog cunt. Drink some cement and harden up sunshine. Stop being a sooky la la Yank.

>> No.70822204

>>70822027
>All her top donators are from the US
lmao

>> No.70822308

>>70822027
Oh no, not SCs, the thing that is becoming irrelevant for their income. whatever should she do.

>> No.70822339

>>70822027
>then she'll become another Mori
Mori gets more supas than her, don't think she's mind.

>> No.70822441

its 2 pm in finland when it started. time is fine for me.

>> No.70823033

It's over.
You can watch the VOD now.

>> No.70823356

>>70822097
>how to tell me you don't watch vtubers without telling me you don't watch vtubers
My point is only Gura is capable of getting JP Holos to stream during NA primetime, but even that is a stretch

>> No.70824320

>>70823356
Wtf are rambling about, delusional chumbud?

>> No.70824451

Crap I didnt get notified by Youtube and missed it. God damn Youtube Mother fuckers will give me alerts for Holostars I subbed too in 2020 but not a big event like this. I guess im VOD gang now

>> No.70824632

>>70822441
>if you dont have work

>> No.70825204

>>70821872
Watch the slop and get fucked on the big events!
Yep, only a few times a year!
She wants to be JP anyways. I don't know why they ruined council to make it promise by sliding her in. Maybe it was to destroy Sana's legacy. IRyS belongs with ReGloss or as JP Hope.

>> No.70825844

>>70825204
Sana had no legacy. She was there for no time at all and barely streamed. You are completely delusional

>> No.70826057

>>70771674
Bae did hers at an appropriate time tho

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>>70776824
>>70786650
>>70806721
>>70806809
Real talk: it never use to bother me until this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzUF1sQ7Z9s

It's the way it is handled. Bae and FWMO both cater to JP strongly too but it's never been an issue for me. FWMO will set dedicated streams aside for their JP audiences and the EN audience will still get plenty of content that week or even the same day. Their history eases people into this behavior because FWMO have a history to trying to teach JP culture and trying to make it fun for everyone. Bae throws herself at JP promotional events and will speak full JP while on another JP stream yet at the end of the day her bread and butter is her EN audience and she throws herself equally at communicating with her EN audience during regular streams.

Irys will pretend her EN audience doesn't exists when it is inconvenient and will not make an effort to involving them in stuff that blends with JP. She won't speak a lick of English on a collab with a JP member but will fall into a full Japanese speaking spell during her normal streams while playing an English speaking game. That there is a difference in the relationship Irys has with Bae and Mori (strong JP speakers) and the rest of Promise (weaker to non speakers) is a little telling. Her guest list for 3D and specials seemly having all JP is very disappointing.

I am happy Irys is having a great week. She is talented and a stronger Irys is better for EN. But this point about her is the reason I will never be a fan.

>> No.70828753

>>70771526
Perfect time for lives

>> No.70828777

IRyS's mistake has always been her being too desperate for the approval of the en audience. she thinks too highly of myth and has felt insecure about being left out. hopefully she has become more confident in herself and won't apologize for being who she is anymore.

>> No.70828800

>>70771526
Why no EN guests?
>inb4 she's in Japan
Mori and Bae are there too..

>> No.70828821

>>70828777
>approval of the en audience
That's her audience.
That is who she needs the approval of.

>> No.70828957

>>70828821
and she tried and still many reject her; so she's rightfully abandoning that ship and moving on.

>> No.70829004

Just dropping by to collect the seethe. It feels fucking fantastic being an IRyStocrat

>> No.70829100

>>70828957
Fitting, I'm also abandoning that ship and moving on.

>> No.70829157

>>70771526
2am hawaii
she HATES them

>> No.70829241

>>70829100
you were'nt on it to begin with; that's the point and it's too late now to change things.

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IRyS doesn't care about EN fans.

>> No.70829896

>>70828821
sure it is
the same en audience that shat on her when mumei passed and beat her to 1M
yeah no wonder she wants to also pander to the nips

>> No.70830063

>Council rebrands as Promise to add you to the group
>None of Promise in her 3D live
>Don't even have Promise call in for 3D live

>> No.70830190

>>70771526
It has been clear for a while now all vtubers that have dual JP/EN fanbases are better off prioritizing the former.

>> No.70830237

IRyS has been a self-hating japanese wanabe since the start.

>> No.70830249

>>70830063
>Promise is as much to rescue council as it was to give IRyS formal genmates.
>realistically it could only have been Hakotaro and she's done a ton of stuff with her already.
>nobody does call ins for 3D lives

>> No.70830454

>>70773535
>reasonable hour
who cares about any of that. The fuck you have to do besides watch your oshi?

>> No.70830469

>>70830249
>rescue council
From what?
What is this cope?

>> No.70830501

>>70830237
you have it backwards; she's a japanese who wanted to be a part of en. If she had actually cultivated the JP fanbase from the start as you say she would have been better off. incidently this is what FWMC are doing; they have learned from IRyS's critical mistake and won't neglect JP no matter how much it costs them EN viewers.

>> No.70830564

>>70830469
you're the one coping if you don't see what a flop council was.

>> No.70830703

>>70830564
How was it a flop and how did pulling IRyS in, stop it from being a flop?
What are you fucking talking about?
The whole point was to give IRyS genmates so she wouldn't be so isolated but it's clear she doesn't really care about them and would rather have been pulled into a JP gen.

>> No.70830743

>>70830501
Should have debuted as a JP then.

>> No.70830824

>>70830501
>If she had actually cultivated the JP fanbase from the start
pandering to the nips won't help if they are also filtered by the goblina face she had from the stat

>> No.70830904

>>70805969
IRyS is a guest at 3D lives from other Promise members so they do get along. While it's curious that she didn't have any EN guests it does feel like contract stuff is going on with management. Kronii didn't have any guests at her showcase and might not even have a birthday live until next year. Myth was having issues with group collabs in 2022 and recently that seems to be happening with Promise. They are friendly during group collabs so my guess is things will improve once the current issues are settled.

>> No.70830996

>>70830904
Who exactly would be flying over to Japan just to do a 3D for her? The only person living there at the time of recording is Mori and maybe Bae.

>> No.70831071

>>70830564
How was council a flop? Are you literally a Nijisister?

>> No.70831077

>>70830996
>Who could be in Japan at a time they are all recording for holofest in Japan
A mystery, probably no one.

>> No.70831186

>>70830904
since you mentioned the 3D showcases. I will note that both mumei and kronii were the only ones who didn't have IRyS or other council members in their showcases. They were also the ones with the highest viewership, I guess council fans hate council.

>> No.70831232

>>70831077
It's stupid to assume holofes recording would've been paused to let IRyS' record everything first. The logical timeline is that she finished her recording well in advance before people started flying over for holofes.

>> No.70831285

>>70831071
>Are you literally a Nijisister?
yes because only a nijisister would think council was shit. everyone else can plainly see what a runaway success they were. *rolls eyes*

>> No.70831340

>>70831232
Somehow Bae managed to get people for her live.
Don't pretend it couldn't be done, IRyS just didn't want to do it.

>> No.70831405

>>70831340
I mean outside of Promise and Mori, IRyS isn't really close (on stream) with anyone else from EN.

>> No.70831459

>>70831340
>IRyS just didn't want to do it.
and what's your point? she made the show she wanted to make.

>> No.70831486

>>70773474
All birthdays in hololive are pre-recorded

>> No.70831572

>>70771526
JP>EN

Anyone in holoEN that want to be an Idol know that they should appeal to JP idolchads, the EN side just have GFE beggars and reddit tier ironic fans

>> No.70831668

>>70831486
The collab songs are for sure, but the holos who are confident in their singing will do their solo songs live.

>> No.70831759

>>70831405
Because Myth doesnt stream. Mori and Kiara are the only ones who stream

>> No.70831763

>>70831459
Yes, we know.

>> No.70831806

>>70831572
Wow. The no true Scotsman fallacy on /vt/ of all places

>> No.70831897

>>70809810
Why should learning Japanese be mandatory to watch an EN?

>> No.70831913

>>70771526
>afternoon in Europe
Irys loves white people.

>> No.70832008

>>70831897
it's not; hell it's not even mandatory to watch JP.

>> No.70832009

>>70805969
Are you the Ennaschizo or did you somehow buy into her rrat?
(And the fact that at least one other anon was earnestly replying to this w/o calling the schizo's rrat out was surprising)

>> No.70832119

>>70773474
>>70831486
The guest parts were pre-recorded. All solo parts were live. She said as much and you can see obvious signs of that in the stream (plus the encore member-only stream)

>> No.70832134

>>70805969
She's the only member of Project Hope

>> No.70832185

>>70832009
What the fuck are you talking about?
This has been a thing for over a year ever since they all went to Japan and IRyS spent like no time with any EN while there.

>> No.70832321

>>70832185
She went dates with all of them...
We got cucked by the entirety of Promise

>> No.70832428

Let's be honest, she did her bd stream and limit merch sell last year in en time. It is fair for her to stream and sell limit merch this year for her jp audiences.

>> No.70832463

>>70832428
>IRyS Ch. hololive-EN
What do you think this means?

>> No.70832540

>>70771526
You dumbshit. In order to get support from the Hololive office for the 3D live, she needs hours that work for the support staff.

What did you think 3D lives were? Regular streams from her home computer?

>> No.70832552

>>70832185
IRyS nearly died from all the germs these en whores have given her everytime they visit.

>> No.70832628

>>70832463
you seem to think it means she's only here to be an accessory to myth and council.

>> No.70832665

>>70832463
English branch of a JAPANESE company

>> No.70832719

>>70832463
She just did a stream in jp friendly time. Why are you seething so hard?

>> No.70832789

>>70832540
Fascinating that all 3D lives were done in the JP timeslot.
How did we not notice that?

>> No.70832839

>>70774203
Me.

>> No.70832869

>>70832789
All *live* 3D lives were done in JP afternoon (weekend) / night timeslot, yes

>> No.70832923

>>70832185
Watch streams

>> No.70832926

>>70810762
>What about the whole language thing
How exactly is that an issue? She has been doing that since the very beginning and despite that she has gotten this far, so she has zero reason to change something she has been doing since basically her debut.

>> No.70832933

>>70832869
Ah yes, the *live* 3D lives versus the *prerecorded* 3D lives which we can all tell apart.

>> No.70833033

>>70832933
Most of the time, it's not that hard to tell which part is or isn't live based on camera works, amount of edits, and how out of breath the girls are after singing & dancing

>> No.70833199

>>70833033
They are all prerecorded you idiot.

>> No.70833283

>>70833199
Solo parts in IRyS's birthday, plus the whole 3D encore in mengen were live. Similarly, Suisei's solos (be it birthday lives or actual solo lives) are live too. Several girls have talked about it and again, as I said, you can tell without much problem
(Unless you are a schizo trying to push his rrat, of course)

>> No.70833336

>>70833283
You are the schizo if you don't understand how the whole thing is recorded and packaged before it is streamed.

>> No.70833373

>>70833199
solo parts are often live. this goes for many holo jp members. before covid, their whole concerts were live.

>> No.70833473

>>70805853
I know the Ennacucks hate her.
Also her general is frequently raided and poorly moderated.

>> No.70836176

>>70771596
Based sanityposter

>> No.70837827

>>70815990
It's really simple. There are a growing number of people who think IRyS doesn't care about her EN audience. If you think that's stupid, your opinion doesn't change the fact that that's how some people feel. It's a small problem for now, but it could become a much larger problem later, if things like this keep happening. This event alone has made it a bigger issue. Somehow multiple people came to the exact same conclusion, just read this thread, and there's going to be way more people who not going to say anything. I'm just telling you how people feel. You're going to have to accept the fact that it's OK to for people criticize your oshi, it's leads to a much healthier environment if people are free to criticize. IRyS could alleviate most of the issue if she just acknowledge it.

>> No.70838919

It was a good decision. I could watch her live while working. I can't even remember when I watched one of her streams before - probably shortly after her debut.

>> No.70840346

>>70771526
good

>> No.70840515

>>70837827
>I care, thus there’s a growing trend
Wow, very compelling, anon.

>> No.70840632

>>70840515
Your just sticking your head in the sand.

>> No.70840690

>>70840632
Versus you having come to a conclusion based on personal bias?

>> No.70841647

>>70840690
This whole 3D live thing is not a big deal. Do you understand that? It's OK to say that IRyS isn't perfect, you don't have to jump down everyone's throat because they dare say something critical. Did you take the Cover Corps support guidelines thing seriously, where you can only praise Hololive members? Ever heard of toxic positivity? All I've been arguing this whole time is that it's OK to criticize.

>> No.70841896

Trolling outside of /b/ is a bannable offense.

>> No.70842001

>>70841647
It only matters if those "people" are her EN audience. And they mostly aren't. The real truth isn't that she doesn't care about her EN audience, it's that she doesn't care about non-weeb EN audience. There's a difference and you know it.

>> No.70842280

>>70841647
I care not for your blathering on over pointless drivel. Complain away, but do understand you’ve presented primarily fruitless concerns.

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>>70842280

>> No.70845046

>>70841896
Sadly, this isn't trolling. A lot of people are noticing.

>> No.70846697

>>70771526
Yes

>> No.70846752

>>70771596
vod was good

>> No.70848655

how is this thread still up.

>> No.70848906

if you understand both japanese and english, when streamer translates her comment into the other language it's literally them repeating themselves twice. it breaks up the flow of the stream if they do this a lot and gets fucking annoying. once in awhile is fine, or if it's purposeful translation work for someone else on stream... but just talking to chat and repeating phrases like it's some ESL class is disruptive. it's the same whether it's irys or certain ID girls. pick a language and stick to it for that vid.

>> No.70849003

here's a rrat:
the people she invited are the ones she's friends with irl. mori would be the only en counterpart that would be applicable.

>> No.70849234

>>70805969
>Mumei shilled her live on stream
>Bae shilled her live on tweeter
>Fauna retweeted and congratulate her
>Kronii literally had a week of sex with her in japan
What a weak rrat, the peddler should watch streams.

>> No.70849295

>>70849234
She sexually harassed Bae and now Bae is too afraid to say anything against her

>> No.70849568

>>70845046
Your multiple personalities do not count as multiple people.
And even if it was real, why do you care? Just don't watch her and be done with it and let her "suffer" the consequences of her "actions"

>> No.70849639

>>70848906
You are complaining about something she has been doing since literal day one. Anyone who would be bothered by that is long gone and since it's been three years there is little to no change means her audience do not mind.

>> No.70849818

>>70849003
In all seriousness, she already said that she wanted to invite as many new guests as possible to keep things fresh (she also said that she knew eventually, she will have to keep rotating some same guests over and over, though).

>> No.70849838

>>70805343
PrincessRyS takes people being nice to her and including her for granted. Sadly the rest of EN are too nice and don't ever challenge her on it.

>> No.70850223

>>70826075
Basically this.

>> No.70850318

>>70829896
Neither of them has really done anything in the last year to warrant growth.
Both spent months and months not streaming. The reason I don't mind Mumei's odd growth is because she passed Kronii and IRyS who has spent way too long not giving a shit.

>> No.70850426

>Nijitrannies still seething that their failed doxx gained no traction

A rope is affordable everywhere in the world so there's no excuse for any of you to still be here desu.

>> No.70852771

>>70826075
>FWMO
i agree with everything you said mostly but the short form for fuwamoco is FWMC, get it right next time

>> No.70853075

>>70848906
I think people are mad because she does that in her EN streams for Japanese viewers but won't do the same for EN viewers during EN streams. I was never really bothered by it but that flare clip is a bit rough to take.

>> No.70853131

>>70853075 (me)
*won't do the same for EN viewers during JP streams

>> No.70855495

>>70850426
>all complaints are nijisisters
I seriously think you people have lost your minds.

>> No.70855853

I can't believe you're still seething about this, why can't you put a fraction of your seething about IRyS' success into supporting your dying company

>> No.70858776

>>70855853
There's no saving the decline of Hololive EN.

>> No.70858922

>>70777876
and this is why she doesnt want EN viewers lmao
you guys are faggots

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>>70855853
The schizo already tried to bot NijiEN stream to beat IRyS's karaoke two days ago and failed.
>>70858776
>decline
Unlike NijiEN, they have been inclining for several months, though, dear sister

>> No.70860679

>>70855853
You calling the people who want IRyS to appeal to English fans Nijifans, while last Samurai are well know for all being Nijifans.

>> No.70861061

>>70774203
That's when I eat breakfast, it's perfect time for time. After the live finishes I can finish getting ready for work.

>> No.70861364

>>70860679
>99% of streams are EN timeslot streams (which is damaging to her health in the long run)
>Get decent viewership
Seems like she is doing well appealing to EN fans, both by actions and result, to me.

>> No.70863475

>>70861364
It didn't say she wasn't doing a good job, I just don't like last samurais.

>> No.70863685

>>70863475
yet, ken- sama's never seem to lose.

>> No.70865049

>>70855495
can't lose something you never had to begin with

>> No.70866637

>>70863685
They lost the subscriber race.

>> No.70868125

>>70771596
the entire thing is per-recorded, she said only guest is per-recorded but if you watch it you would know the entire thing is per-recorded.

She cares more about JP audience, it's just that simple.

>> No.70868350

>>70868125
Great, then watch someone else.

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