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Here we go again....

Dubs decide if it finally drops below 3000 JPY

>> No.70624485

>>70624448
Get

>> No.70624502
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70624502

>>70624448

>> No.70624599

Didn't think it would crash until after the shareholder meeting

>> No.70624706

>>70624448
Oh no sisters. I thought you guys said Niji is finally winning last week with a massive increase. Now we go back to square one

>> No.70624781

It's what, 10 days until the meeting? That's plenty of time for it to drop below 3k. Excited to see how Riku reassures everyone while their money is burning.

>> No.70624789

>>70624448
Will something crazy actually happen if it dips below 3k?

>> No.70624820

>>70624599
It may not crash but it looks terribly grim and I’ve heard no positive comment anywhere. It not today, tomorrow.
Riku has to be on the ropes here, he mist pull something.

>> No.70624888

>>70624599
major yab at the shareholder's meeting confirmed

>> No.70624894

>>70624789
According to Japan, that’s where investors will panic.

>> No.70624931

Will it go below 3k this month? Place your bets!!

>> No.70624943

It finally hit sub 3,040, we're at 3,035.00.

>> No.70624969
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70624969

>>70624448
It is okay OP, Riku will just put up another sacrificial lamb to save himself.

>> No.70624979

The impact of Riku's apologies to the shareholders will be negligible.

>> No.70624994
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70624994

AHHHH MY SHEKELS

>> No.70624992

>>70624789
Since 3000 is a nice round number there's an added psychological effect if it falls below. For example, people setting their stop losses on 3000.

>> No.70625042

>>70624789
Depends. CEO & top management even on JP side could get ousted by shareholders, or company could start firing staff to try to get their balances good. Future looks kinda bleak either way.

>> No.70625048

>>70624789
May 2023 was the last month that they stuck at sub 3k territory (after that they tried really hard to keep their stock above 3k constantly), so it's assured that the investors won't be happy if a year later their price will still be below 3k

>> No.70625153

>>70624789
It's a psychological thing. The difference between 3,050 and 3,000 is nothing, but 3,000 and 2950 is huge. Same reason people price things at $1.99 instead of $2. People are going to see the big digit drop and start panicking.

>> No.70625260

>>70624994
>displays the percentage of emotions selected by users when posting on the bulletin board in the past week
>want to sell 57%
>want to buy 38%

>> No.70625282

will this affect nijiJP in any way

>> No.70625378

>>70624789
It's a psychological tipping point. If it falls below ¥3000 investors will be spooked that the decline isn't temporary and panic selling will happen, which will drive the price even lower.

>> No.70625398

>>70625282
Stock prices affect the entire company

>> No.70625412

>>70624994
3,025.00, we're almost there.

>> No.70625600

>>70624789
Maybe... maybe not. Stocks can bounce off of these levels and stocks can dump hard if the level breaks.

>> No.70625661

>>70625412
Aaaaiiiieeeeee it’s burning down in front of our very eyes

>> No.70625781

> Google collab: Stock increased by 200
> Post-collab: Stock dropped all of that 200 and go even lower than pre-collab

Was it a deliberate move from new investors or did the collab have that much of impact on the company ?

>> No.70625809

Where can I see footage of the shareholder meeting? I wanna watch Riku get his nuts smashed

>> No.70625864

I’m binging twitter and youtube. Any other place Riku may decide to do an emergency announcement to save his ass?

>> No.70625880

>>70625781
Sony bought 12 million worth of stocks, that's why it went up so much.

>> No.70625964

>>70625781
Collab with Google is always good, Google investors comin to buy and then you sell. Many used it to recover zero profit.

>> No.70626014

>>70625600
I can imagine Riku having this exact copium right now kek

>> No.70626031

BUY BUY BUY BUY
WE ARE GOING TO THE MOON. TRUST THE PLAN

>> No.70626035

>>70625781
>dumbasses see google collab and blindly buy the stock
>shortchads see an even better price to short the stock in preparation for EN going up in flames
>dumbasses who bought see the stock falling and panic sell

>> No.70626081

>>70625781
It was Sony Media Group that pumped it by buying 36 million shares.

>> No.70626123

>>70625864
I'm guessing twitter. Also considering the "Negligible" letter was what the company put out the last time they wanted to address investors, I half-expect them to pour more gasoline in the fire. Half-expect.
Although I doubt they'll address it today or tomorrow.

>> No.70626143

>>70624448
SISTERS WE MUST BUY. THIS IS A DISCOUNTED PRICE. HELP RIKU-SAMA

>> No.70626232

>>70626081
Any idea if they gonna dump? Sony axes prism, surely they are not gonna save Riku and his PR nightmare of a company.

>> No.70626231

>>70624448
riku's only option is going deep into okinawa jungles then find a hafu shaman to reverse this situation
if google collab mattered so little whats left to impress the ojisans with money? paizuris from elira can only do so much..

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>>70624448
Honestly, from the point of view of someone that has a major in economics, this affect the whole vtuber industry, specially those that are in the stock market, Cover is also getting negative % on the stock market since December, this make the industry look volatile and just a fad that already passed.

If one look for more information, you can see that most vtubers have lost CCV and VODs views, since late 2022, and is only getting worse, there are obviously some exceptions, but most of them are japanese, the western side is doing like shit, some important small and medium size vtuber corpos are cashing out of this fad, and is just early 2024, this year will be really bad for the vtuber industry, specially the western/EN part.

Anycolor should drop under 3000 yen around the end of March, after they have their shareholder meeting that was postponed even before the whole NijiEN drama.

It wouldn't surprise me if they try to merge the EN branch to the main one like KR, IN and ID.

This whole drama, remember me of the Machinima drama, when regular youtubers realized that they were bigger than their multi-channel network and that they could get 5 times the money alone, I expect a lot of vtubers to go indie just like back then with regular youtubers, and most corpos to die.

>> No.70626357

>>70626123
Oh this has been ANYTHING but Negligible. That word is gonna haunt him at the meeting like a ghost.

>> No.70626419

>Holostars EN 2nd gen gets 3D debut before anyone else in Niji
>Offkai-Niji Rrat
>Anycolors stock is fucked
Fellow Nijiniggers I don't feel so good

>> No.70626446

>>70626279
Cover's stock is going down because investors are mad that yagoo pays the talents "too much".

>> No.70626452 [DELETED] 

>>70626232
Sony has long positions on Anycolor, they own 5.3% of the company. They are not dumping anytime soon.
They pumped the stock to create an exist plan for Honda Yuzuru of Freakout Holdings, but was overleveraged and there was fear of contagion.

>> No.70626500

>>70626419
>Offkai-Niji
What did i miss now? I saw Sayu's 3 hours before signing a blackmail.

>> No.70626541

>>70626419
As someone who bailed when Pomu left, I can't believe it took me this long, to see how bad it really was. I do feel like I walked through it in delusion. Shameful shit...

>> No.70626551

>>70626452(me)
I am braindead, let me correct the typos

Sony has long positions on Anycolor, they own 5.3% of the company. They are not dumping anytime soon.
They pumped the stock to create an exit plan for Honda Yuzuru of Freakout Holdings, who was overleveraged and there was fear of contagion.

>> No.70626649

>>70626279
Good analysis except this thing is going down sooner. It has been downtrending this entire fiasco. I have no idea how you convince investors to trust you after “negligible” and having negatively smashed all analysts predictions.

And honestly the indie revolution already started, so many companies pulling out of the game, Niji’s fall may infect Cover but they can turn it around since they are Cover.

>> No.70626675

>>70624599
>>70624888
Double checked and confirmed: major yab at shareholders' meeting

>> No.70626710

>>70626279
Cover will survive just fine. They have a "niche". Indies are not banding together to make multi-million dollar 3D concerts. If you don't care about the singing and dancing, by all means go indie. But if you do care about being an idol on the stage, then you really need a corpo.

>> No.70626724

>>70626419
>offkai nijirrat
what is this?

>> No.70626830

>>70626279
>Anycolor should drop under 3000 yen around the end of March
Why not now?
>Machinima drama
Unlike Machinima Vtuber corpos offer a lot to their talent, so I don't expect to go that way, but the small quick cash grab companies are definitely over. It's an industry where you'll need to burn money before you start getting money back.

>> No.70626873

Its funny how it went from want buy being like 70% last week to this.

>> No.70626910

>>70626724
>False being a clown baits that convention with Niji is excluding anti
>People about to clown False
>Offkai responds in Niji style: fast, bad and almost self reporting
>Everyone now rratting on Offkai

>> No.70626918

>>70626724
Just a rrat, nothing more. For now.
>>70595895

>> No.70626994

>>70626419
>Offkai-Niji Rrat
That rumor is dead in the water.
>>70626500
>>70626724
Rumor is that Offkai (a convention) refused tickets and avenue slots to Doki supporters. Offkai has already denied it.

>> No.70627005
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70627005

Why are they so in sync

>> No.70627007

>>70626551
Why they would stay however? What is to gain?

>> No.70627010
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70627010

>>70626231
>get the fuck out of my house dayo

>> No.70627036

>>70626918
If that's true then it's infinitely more funny

>> No.70627048

>>70626541
Same. Sayu should have been my clue.

>> No.70627104

>>70626724
Recall that sisters recently made a blacklist of people that support Doki or don't support Nijisanji. The rrat is that a sister infiltrated the organizing committee and is rejecting people they don't like. False put out a public request for whistleblowers and Offkai responded with this.
https://twitter.com/OffKaiExpo/status/1764678336620445759

>> No.70627113

>>70627005
Because investors are retarded.

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>>70627005
Yes but actually no. Cover only grow and it’s an Idol company, with talents like Gura basically normie trademark.
Anycolor could have done it with only Pomu but we know how it went. Now they are finding out this is NOT a speculative market anymore.

>> No.70627232

>>70627104
Another day another fuckup. YIKES!

>> No.70627280

>>70627010
I'm sorry Henya, but it's the only option left...you must become a Nijisanji liver!

>> No.70627318

>That's great lol. I went in with 3,500, hoping for a settlement (lol) . . . Consciousness. . . far away. . . It has become (lol) - Stockholder comment

>> No.70627317

>>70624448
ACCELERATE

>> No.70627366

>>70627005
Investors realising that their money is riding on a bunch of mentally ill females and are bailing

>> No.70627376

>>70626279
Cover is up 80% YOY.
Anycolor is up 24% YOY.

The industry is fledgling, of course it's volatile.
Companies don't care about ccv and superchats. They make up less than 10% of gross revenue. They care about partnerships, sponsorships, and merchandise. Ie, they care how marketable the talents are, and how high their conversion rates and impression rates are.
The industry is not going anywhere, it's just normalizing (since interest rates are too high for corporate leverage and JP is in a technical recession).
Anycolor did a lot of questionable things, apart from mismanagement. They had a share repurchase campaign (18 million USD), which they did not couple with corporate leverage (because cheap loans are not a thing in this climate). This made the stock-buyback ineffective (more so than usual). They also did not effectively reduce the outstanding shares like they should, by making them available for reissuance.
Finally, the disbursement (dividend payout) doesn't happen for 5 more months. They will not even alleviate tax burden with this genius move.

>> No.70627385

>>70625809
please someone tell me. do i gotta buy a share or something to get access? i wanna see this Riku get his asshole stretched

>> No.70627405

>>70627318
Then sell you hero, sell and recoup the losses. This is not going up ever.

>> No.70627415
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70627415

Can a new wave save this?

>> No.70627461

How you guys know so much about shit like the stock market? I thought we are all losers who watch 2d anime jpg.

>> No.70627479

>>70624448
>inb4 2 weeks
No, itll crash next monday. Two days before shareholders meeting.
>>70624789
Nothing crazy, itll just mean they have gained practically zero value. You could actually argue they lost value. Like others have mentioned, its a nice round number and were almost exactly 1 year down the road when the stock was 3k.
Its not good, next week is shareholder meeting, if it goes below 3k before that THEN somethign crazy might actually happen. They will have to change course, i dont expect rash decisions - but if things will get explosive, it WILL be after that meeting.

>> No.70627482

>>70626994
No Offkai has denied that Nijisanji officially had anything to do with. They have not denied that it happened. Just that they are concerned about and wanted to clear Nijisanji (because they did not put the fan up to it).

>> No.70627561

>>70627461
Im a loser, but i dont work and yet i have money to spend on digital women that do cute things to entertain me.

>> No.70627576

>>70625153
lolaccuratecommentaryonthehumanconditionpad

>> No.70627582

could riku actually be ousted from his CEO spot? what would happen in that situation?

>> No.70627593

>>70627461
The Power of Autism

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