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https://streamable.com/zmte96

>They gave her a contract and had only 3 hours to sign it if she wanted to leave on "mutual terms"
>Sent it to her lawyer but there is not enough time to wait for a reply
>Asked for more time to consult with her lawyer, but they shut her down
>Deadline had passed
>She didn't sign it
>Suddenly, they throw another 3 hours after the deadline
>Finally got to chat with her lawyer, who confirmed it's just a silencing gig and not worth signing
>Asked what she gets for signing it? Said It would be better for your future(guns*click)
>3 hours passed. She didn't sign it

>So they dropped the Terminated bomb with fucking BULLET POINTS in it.

source: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2077738695?t=11h10m24s

long-ass stream, I probably missed more story

>> No.70515890

>>70515858
brakku kompani

>> No.70515895

>>70515858
>I have the worst luck.
She's pulled Keqing in genshin over 30 times.
She is VERY unlucky.

>> No.70516025

>>70515858
While on average a Japanese company sure is a harsher workplace compared to the west, black companies are not the norm.

>Nijisanji is special

Think about it Anon, you have to be pretty bad if the Jap corpo bootlickers give you a special name

>> No.70516431

>>70515858
Holdup, is she implying she's willing to send that contract she has a copy of to dramafag lawyers?

>> No.70516452

>>70515858
Dramagirl is still milking dramabird as thought that will save her career.

>> No.70516471

>>70515858
>is blackmail a jp norm?
i don't know but based on my reading hentai manga it's true

>> No.70516507
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70516507

>>70516452
Sister what failing career? She's literally doing better than your failing organs.

>> No.70516515

>>70515858
You know they could have just fired her without asking if she wanted to leave on neutral terms, right? Considering people act like she was murdered by Nijisanji since she got fired, it would have been better for her future

>> No.70516543

>>70516452
She has more viewers than most Nijisanji EN streamers and and gets to keep the money. She won.

>> No.70516566

>>70515858
That's also what the leaker basically alluded to.
He said "shame on me for not reading the contract" and inferred he can't just pick up and leave because he'd be saddled with termination fees, severance fines, and liability for breach of contractual stipulations.

The contracts probably have dozens of blackmail clauses that allow the company to sue you and hound you.

>> No.70516574

>>70516452
ESL nijinig is still nijiseething as though that will save her company

>> No.70516609

>>70516452
>highest ccv than Enna's comeback stream, while playing random gacha

GRIM

>> No.70516641

>>70516507
She dual streams on youtube and her VOD views are better than Scarle roru

>> No.70516656

>>70515858
No, Hololive is a Japanese company.

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>>70516609
I've seen her get as high as 4-6k on random ass streams lately, and she generally averages around 2-3k. She's doing FANTASTIC considering how horribly Nijisanji isolated her after all of that scorched earth nonsense. She fought tooth and nail to improve her mental state and fix everything she could, fighting back all the hate with sheer kindness, turning hatewatchers into genuine fans.

>> No.70516687

Makes me wonder if that's what happened to Yugo too, but they signed it so they got a silent termination instead of some exposé.

>> No.70516731

>>70515858
Black company

>> No.70516750

>>70516515
Firing her is fine but they really want to end her entire VTubing career with that statement

Imagine getting fired by your boss and then that POS contacts the other company just to smear your reputation

>> No.70516800

>>70516687
Yugo was a genuine menhera tranny that had meltdowns over how she wasnt born and never will be a man

>> No.70516980

>>70516687
False hinted at Yugo getting legal advice and preventing a character assassination termination thanks to that.
>>70516800
Not exactly relevant to the topic.

>> No.70517095

>>70516800
But we can only guess how much of that instability should be attributed to hostile workspace environment. To my limited knowledge, it was fine after niji.

>> No.70517197

>>70516750
>"Smear your reputation"

Yeah, getting fired in general is usually a smear on your reputation in a regular job. Explaining why she was fired also isn't trying to cripple her career either. Twitter already crucified her anyway

>> No.70517223

>>70516431
corporate NDAs usually have an expiration date anon

>> No.70517276

>>70516452
>streams for 10+ hours
>spends 5 mins reacting to a comment
>SHES MILKING DRAMA
lmao

>> No.70517320

>>70516800
>tranny
The nomenclature is pooner

>> No.70517475

>>70516452
>dramagirl
>dramabird
I am ashamed I ever let you sisters trick me into thinking the Sayu hate was organic and not just another NDF front opened up.

>> No.70517622

>>70515858
jezas

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70517754

>>70517095
>bullied for being trans
>by the heckin' wholesome rainbow company

Sisters wouldn't like this rrat if they had the mental capacity to entertain it.

>> No.70518329

>>70515858
So that's why Yugo didn't get slandered

>> No.70518365

>>70517475
I'm glad you've seen the light

>> No.70518374

>>70516452
yeah, just dropping shit every now and again instead of actually spilling the beans. works better for her this way.
not a nijisister, i just don't like the way this bitch is riding the doki drama.

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>>70517197
>Explaining why she was fired also isn't trying to cripple her career either
Don't be a fucking idiot, no one does shit like pic related. It's irresponsible, unprofessional, unnecessarily harmful and borderline dangerous when dealing with a community like Nijisanji's.

>> No.70518497

>>70518329
Yugo didn't get slandered because even niji understood that telling true reason would be bad.

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70518531

>>70517197
...Wow.

I really wasn't racist before the doki drama. I'm starting to wonder if I should have been.

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70518551

>>70515858
>She didn't sign it

>> No.70518552

>>70518424
This is unironically the most unprofessional and vindictive public character assassination in the history of vtubing and maybe even just social media in general

>> No.70518560

>>70518497
what was the actual reason anyway? heard something about getting xer bandmates into xer niji content or something.

>> No.70518596

>>70516800
No one forced nijisanji to hire such a person

>> No.70518658

>>70515858
evil company

>> No.70518726

>>70518497
They don't need to say the "true" reason they can list vague grievances they've gathered over time like zaion.

>> No.70518734

>>70515858
So, I work for this huge Canadian multinational outsourcer, except I work from latam. And this sounds... pretty normal when it comes to most industries, actually?
I'm now way up in the totem pole, but when I was just a grunt during my first year, like 6 months after I started working for them, they had us sign an eternal NDA. Nobody read that shit and everyone signed it, except me. I did read it. Outside the contract, it said it was optional. So I didn't sign it. Eventually, I was the last one left to sign it, and I told my manager and their manager I wouldn't. So they got the account manager to confront me, and I let him know I wouldn't sign it because I already had a 3-year NDA and this one was eternal and optional. And he was like, "yeah, it's optional - the other option is you leave the company". So I told him I would ask my lawyer whether I should sign it or not once I was off shift.
Next day, guy had a manager under him scream at me about this at an empty office for like an hour. I told him my lawyer had said an eternal NDA was unenforceable, not to sign it and quit asap, but fuck it, I was fine with the company otherwise so I'd sign it anyway, considering it was unenforceable. He told me he'd give me the NDA later during the day, but in the end, they never did and the subject was completely dropped. They blocked my career advancement for like a year after that though, but once I got a higher position, my new bosses had me climbing that ladder like mad.

>> No.70518769

>>70518596
And yet they did
Not only that but they threw her in a all male wave and told her to larp as a guy

>> No.70518772

>>70518374
I'm inclined to think her plan is to constantly keep Niji drama at the forefront to destroy them, she already got enough growth from the doki drama

>> No.70518773

>>70516800
>everyone else is the problem
>please ignore the repeated actions of management

>> No.70518796

>>70518560
Niji contracts apparently try to control all their PL/RM activities even if they are unrelated. He choose the side that he liked more.

>> No.70518821

>>70518734
giving your employee only 3 hours to read through and sign an unfair contract is not normal

>> No.70518872

>>70518734
>So, I work for this huge Canadian multinational outsourcer, except I work from latam. And this sounds... pretty normal when it comes to most industries, actually?
>"Can I talk with my lawyer first?"
>"No"
No, it's not normal.

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70518887

>>70515858
I love this hag. Nijisanji shoving her out the door proves they don't give a flying fuck about actual talent. She would have been the star of her gen. NijiEN just wants people who will obey the clique.

>> No.70518989

>>70516800
The meltdown was because Nijisisters hated her guts. That she shouldn't be there for "stealing" the spot for another homo. She was the most hated Nijien for a while until she got terminated.

>> No.70519009

>>70518552
It still worked, every video that touches on this has people going 'well yeah this looked bad buuuut she's probably an awful human being anyways' even after doki.

>> No.70519043

>>70519009
I never said it didn't work, my point is that this is the work of people that are probably truly evil

>> No.70519180

>>70518772
Strong is the fire that's carefully tended to.

>> No.70519217

>>70515858
Those must have been the most stressful six hours of her life up to that point

>> No.70519296

>>70518552
Nah, that was that faggot Meido. He even dropped Misopa's ID card number.

>> No.70519451

>>70519217
No, I'm pretty sure that was when she got doxxed all over twitter by the sisters.

>> No.70519544

>>70519451
There is a special place in Hell for those chink whores. Trying to ruin an innocent person's life so Vox can belch into their pussies one more time.

>> No.70520081

>>70516674
Ngl, wasn't sure what to think of her during Niji, but after tuning into some of her streams lately, she's overall actually pretty chill.

>> No.70520216

>>70516471
well, can't argue with that

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>>70516471
I wouldnt trust anything else

>> No.70520343

>>70516674
She's not for me but I'm happy for her that she's doing well.

>> No.70520424

>>70520081
she makes for some excellent background noise too, even if I'm not interested in the game she's playing

>> No.70520437

>>70520081
Funny that in niji before all suspensions she was already 3view right after debut. Termination actually saved her in a way(if you dont count half year of struggling). Sisters didn't wanna watch her at all

>> No.70520491

>>70515858
>words words words
niehg
rape

>> No.70520596

>>70518734
>And this sounds... pretty normal when it comes to most industries, actually?
No, it's not normal to offer a silencing contract with a time limit to prevent the person this is aimed towards to to contact legal help, let alone life-long NDAs are legally speaking highly questionable as well. Fuck, the fact they threatened to kick you out if you don't sign the second NDA despite stating it's optional is already highly misleading and a major red flag. And this doesn't take into account that your old managers were dick bags for screaming at you.

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>>70520424
Also sometimes she gets REALLY nasty when people are rude, and that shit may have awakened something. I swear, her chewing out rude people is some of my favorite sayu moments. Her evil voice is absurdly hot.

https://youtu.be/TQHPiuPM6FI?t=19231

>> No.70520845

>>70520596
I mean, yeah, but I've had similar experiences in SMBs and big companies. And once I was a school teacher when I was like 20. I only went back to corpo because I had to pay my parents' mortgage and the local freelancing fullstack webdeving I had been doing for a decade wasn't paying nearly consistently enough, because seriously, this shit's very common in corpo. Specially the "rainbow all inclusive" ones.

>> No.70520862

>>70519217
Kyo leaked her doxx to the nyfco fujoshis dude. Full name, address, personal email, personal accounts. She was getting spammed death threats and the menheras even started attacking random people that they assumed went to school with her.
Thankfully, she was in california so there was little danger of actual schizos getting to her IRL, but still it must have been absolute hell

>> No.70520901

>>70519451
>>70520862
Is it just me or is it fucking crazy that this seems to be normalized? Like the fact that she got hard doxxed and her employer did nothing about it is now something that people just go "oh yeah that happened"???

>> No.70520908

>>70519544
I still can't believe I was friends with a kindred irl. When I learned what sort of thing vox does for them on stream I didnt regret burning that bridge

>> No.70520946

>>70515895
At least she's hot.

>> No.70521052

>>70520908
Kindreds aside, I still don't get why he ditched his original model that had some character to that generic-ass "sated" form. Insecurities or something.

>> No.70521100

>>70518424
Emotional babble. Them explaining why she was fired isn't proof they were trying to cripple her career. Prove they were intentionally attempting to ruin her. Your opinion doesn't matter.

>> No.70521142

>>70516800
You keep using that word. It doesn't mean what you think it means.

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70521217

>>70521100
No, sister. Your opinion doesn't matter. You saying "prove this" "prove that" after your stupid claims is getting old. PLEASE go back to the discord and come up with something fresh.

>> No.70521273

>>70521100
Here: >>70520862

>> No.70521276

>>70521142
>born a woman
>called herself a man when she clearly wasnt one
>was suicidal over it
Tranny. As I said, tranny. What now you arent a tranny unless you surgically add yourself a dick?

>> No.70521305

>>70518734
Well, congrats, you've demonstrated that your perception of normal is skewed by incredibly abnormal experiences.

>> No.70521338

>>70520862
I still can't believe Kyo dipped out and dodged all accountability for his actions. He's going to redebut and no one will bother looking into the awful shit he was complicit in. He may be the biggest snake in Nijisanji, and that is saying a whole fucking lot.

>> No.70521379

>>70516566
"Graduation is always an option," huh

>> No.70521408

>>70518734
California law which Nijisanji has to abide with in this case. Basically says you can shove that NDA up your ass. On top of that Nijisanji had not filed a license to operate in California meaning they couldn't even legally sign contracts with Sayu. Sayu is also protected by the 1st Amendment and several other Amendments and the US isn't going to arrest Sayu and send her to Japan just because she said mean thing about a Vtuber Company.

The real issue is industry blacklisting. (This is how Hollywood gets around those pesky laws). But it is hard to tell if Nijisanji can actually do that when I personally think the industry hates them.

The other issue is talking about interactions with other Livers and namedropping them. That can actually fuck Sayu over.

>> No.70521440

>>70521338
I guess we'll just have to remind him from time to time then

>> No.70521442

>>70521305
Yeah, the only long term NDA that I ever saw was someone who got paid every month just to keep silence.

>> No.70521456

>>70518374
She's obviously going to anti the company that treated her like shit. Not her fault Niji is unprofessional and deserves the same treatment they dish out.

>> No.70521498

>>70521338
I fucking pray that stupid rrat where the 39IQ nijiEN discord group plotted to get Kyo to release pro-niji propaganda via his PL connections post-grad is true. It's so certain to backfire and I want to see him fucking rope himself on his own karma.

>> No.70521537

>>70521273
You dumb faggot. An anon with the name "Kyo" doxxing Sayu in an anonymous website isn't even proof that it was actually Kyo. Anyone could have just used his name. Now I'm convinced Sayu's fans might actually be the dumbest people on earth. How would that prove that Nijisanji deliberately tried to ruin her reputation too? I can't stand this retard game

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70521550

>>70520901
Yeah weird that a talent who spoke negatively about Nijisanji ended up getting hard doxxed by Nijisanji fans. It's like there is a repeating habit. Ya know I just can't put my finger on where I have heard tuff like this before ya know.

>> No.70521565

>>70521338
Well, that is unless Enna has receipts and needs a fall guy down the line.

>> No.70521579

>>70521276
No. She's perfectly aware she isn't a man. She wants to be one but knows that she can't. She's a very unfortunate person but not the mentally ill freak you accuse her of being.

>> No.70521599

>Why can't this dramawhore just shut up about the company that ruined her life?
Karma is a bitch. Careful, sisters.

>> No.70521628

>>70515858
>>They gave her a contract and had only 3 hours to sign it
>>Sent it to her lawyer but there is not enough time to wait for a reply
>didn't sign it
I heard that Kadokawa did something similar to From with Armored Core, that is until From became a big household name in the game community and Kadokawa became eager for more games with the From Software brand.

>> No.70521639

>>70521550
I wonder what is it about Nijisanji that attracts the shittiest people out there.

>> No.70521675

>>70521550
Sayu was getting doxxed at the beginning of her suspension when she hadn't yet said a thing about NijiEN being dogshit

>> No.70521775

>>70518989
Sisters are TERFs?
Based

>> No.70521801

>>70521537
Sister, he has a history...
I guess you don't care though since you also ignore Nijisanji's history.

>> No.70521850

>>70521537
>I can't stand this retard game.
Fantastic. Then fuck off. Do not collect your steam gift card.

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>>70521408
>industry hates them
dude...
>Sony is the second biggest shareholder
>65 million USD brand deal with Google Pixel
>Tokio Marine Asset Management holds 5% of capitalization
>Yuzuru Honda of FREAKOUT holdings is a major shareholder


Anycolor is a massive company and they can definitely push their weight around to blacklist anyone they so choose in JP

>> No.70521951

>>70521675
Crazy huh? Almost as if they are using black company tactics of doxxing and releasing personal information to bully people into submission. I don't know it just really gets my noggin joggin a bit. I mean why would Nijisanji mods who we know work really closely with the company harass Hololive talents? Not even just Aloe they were shape-shifting like the slimey creatures they are and attack Coco and Haachama. Someone back me up but weren't they celebrating during the Holocaust.

Oh they're a dirty little black company.

>> No.70522000

>>70521927
Sony is not "the industry" by that I meant other Vtuber Agencies don't like Nijisanji probably because Nijisanji tries to throw weight around with the Sony shit.

>> No.70522098

>>70521775
They are SEA flipniggers and chinks. Tranny astroturfing hasn't yet infected their part of the pond.
They were kvetching because Yugo, a woman, was hired instead of a man. So, they harassed her non-stop.

>> No.70522403

>>70520862
>>70521338
Is it confirmed that it was Kyo?

>> No.70522416

>>70521801
A history of making fun of her document isn't a history of doxxing. Create more boogeymen somewhere else

>> No.70522483

>>70522403
The confirmation it was "Kyo" is that an anon on the site used the name "Kyo" while they tried to doxx Sayu. It's a classic case of confirmation bias

>> No.70522511

>>70522403
>confirmed
No, it was just what the leaker stated. But it checks out. Moreover, the leaker said another liver used Kyo's name to thank the doxxsisters for their service on nyfco, and that Kyo found it funny.

>> No.70522568

>>70522511 (me)
I should add, the posts on nyfco came before Zaion's termination notice. So the "anon" was clairvoyant or in-the-know (read: an organ).

>> No.70522794

>>70522568
The post was made 30 minutes before the termination and it was already alluding to the bullet points. There's no way it wasn't made by someone related to the branch. I think that's the scariest shit about Zaion's termination, it proved to the doxxsisters have real power over management.

>> No.70522888

>>70515858
noone cares about your whore sayucuck, now we have Dokibird to use in our war against nijiblack

>> No.70522925

>>70522888
You will not divide us.

>> No.70522941

>>70522568
Or someone can see the writing on the wall since they saw Zaion was getting cancelled on Twitter and was suspended so they said she's getting fired. This is "Mayans predicted Covid" levels of schizophrenia

>> No.70522991

>>70522925
I hope this is a falseflag for the humor but holy crap if its real, why?

>> No.70523114

>>70522991
been like that for a while now. most commonly at the end before closing time.

cant counter argue when thread gets closed.

>> No.70523132

>>70522991
A falseflagger calling others falseflaggers
Thats rich

>> No.70523162

>>70522941
Yeah, he randomly predicted a termination notice within the hour, with the notice dropping shortly after.
Yeah, he randomly predicted that it'd have bullet-points of infractions (which the poster thanked the doxxsisters for compiling).
Yeah, he predicted that she'd just terminated, even though no one was even mentioning a termination is likely, be that on /vt/ or plebbit.

>> No.70523319

>house party
what a fucking whore

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70523447

>Sisters are still trying to divide Dragoons and Sayubros
Pathetic.

>> No.70523973

>>70523162
>Yeah, he randomly predicted a termination notice within the hour, with the notice dropping shortly after.

Yes. It's almost like people have a confirmation bias and look for evidence someone predicted Zaion would get fired when trying to prove someone knew about it in advance.

>Yeah, he randomly predicted that it'd have bullet-points of infractions (which the poster thanked the doxxsisters for compiling).

Yes. Having a bullet point list for every fuck up is a usual thing that people do when they try to prove someone deserves to be fired.

>Yeah, he predicted that she'd just terminated, even though no one was even mentioning a termination is likely, be that on /vt/ or plebbit.

So you're apparently too retarded to see that someone who was already put on suspension and was in constant controversy would be fired and anyone that could predict that is either an insider or a genius

>> No.70524100

>>70523973
You tell 'im sister!

>> No.70524125

>>70523973
>Yes. Having a bullet point list for every fuck up is a usual thing that people do when they try to prove someone deserves to be fired.
No, it's not usual. It's literally the first thing that all the lawyers and PR experts have pointed out when reviewing Zaion's and Selen's case. No one does this shit.

>> No.70524129

>>70523973
If you reply to this you are retarded

>> No.70524192

>>70523973
Yes, sister, your headcanon that was concocted in your psychotic stupor is representative of reality.

Virtually every single organ has been put on suspensions, and there were never talks of terminations. What about when Millie was suspended for a month? What about when Kyo was suspended for two weeks?
No one was entertaining the possibility of a suspension when Millie created a gc stream where they all larped as /vt/ posters and shit on their colleagues for "fun".
But Zaion was expected to be terminated because she made an edgy joke, at the same time Milord was play-raping his chink menheras on stream.
Riiiiight.

>> No.70524246

Must be tiring having to run multi thread defense as a sister.

>> No.70524279

>>70524125
Selen's didn't have a bullet point list, you idiot. Someone online using a bullet point list to argue why Zaion would be fired isn't them actually predicting Nijisanji would use a bullet point list. Classic case of confirmation bias

>>70524129
Oh nooooooo

>> No.70524306

>>70519296
And name, and nationality, im sure he was about to drop her medical history lmao

>> No.70524368

>>70524192
So you clearly weren't /here/ where people were practically saying that Millie getting fired was confirmed or where people were begging for Kyo to get fired. Tourist

>> No.70524410

>>70515858
>already been married
>rich
>talented and intelligent enough to work as a FAANG engineer
>has a job where people literally just throw money at you for talking into a mic and playing vidya
y-yeah, so unlucky in life. i fucking hate people like this. i genuinely do.

>> No.70524454

>>70524410
You'd hate her anyway, sister.

>> No.70524462

>>70524368
The resident schizos were saying that Millie was getting fired, you mean.
The board at large never entertained the idea, and it never broke containment.


>nyfco doxxsis calling me a tourist
rumao

>> No.70524485

>>70523162
Anon, this is an anonymous website. If keep making educated guesses over and over you're eventually bound to guess something close enough to the truth to pass. Nobody will hold you accountable for your bad guesses, so you just keep throwing shit at the wall and once the truth comes to light, you point at whatever guess was closest. People give you a pass because they "want to believe" and faggots get extra gullible when they're drama hungry. It's piss easy and before you know it you have a whole fucking following of self-deluded fools strongarming doubters for you and all you have to do is keep making shit up past the point where any more truth is likely to come to light and vaguely kinda-sorta confirm speculation without really committing to it.

t. I used to LARP as a leaker on other boards.

>> No.70524493

>>70524410
None of that has to do with luck. I like how you also listed her failed marriage as a positive.

>> No.70524549

>>70524493
true, being born into a good family, wealth and good genes is skill-based. i stand corrected.

>> No.70524577

>>70524279
>Selen's didn't have a bullet point list, you idiot.
You are a fucking idiot. They didn't use bullet points, but they brought up all the shit that they could find about Selen, starting from May 2023. Same thing, different format. Still retarded.
> Someone online using a bullet point list to argue why Zaion would be fired isn't them actually predicting Nijisanji would use a bullet point list. Classic case of confirmation bias
And once again, you're demonstrating that you have no clue what you're talking about. The poster in the doxxsite wasn't using bullet points, he was thanking the sisters for meticulously combing through Zaion's streams and finding all the shit that could be used against her.

>> No.70524600

>>70524279
>Selen's didn't have a bullet point list, you idiot.
It did, actually. It's just it was four really long ones taking up three whole pages, three of which were lies, instead of 12 single sentences, 11 of which were lies.

But no, it's not normal to try to drum someone out of the industry forever when you fire them. Whenever you see that there's an extreme WACTOR level abuse of power going on.

Normally you cite "creative differences" or what not, and politely wish them luck in their future endeavors. You know, instead of putting out a assassination piece against your #1 streamer by views, knowing it's going to be revealed that you drove her to suicide, and it looks like you were trying to get her to finish the job. That level of incompetence would be criminal if there was any justice in this world.

>> No.70524612

>>70524485
Yeah, it was a cohencidence.
I should remind you that it happened in nyfco, a place with zero rrat culture, and other examples of obvious leaks (incl. Selen's termination).
It wasn't a repeated larp that eventually rang true. It was a deliberate post with zero prior impetus.

>> No.70524739

>>70516674
She's actually really a good streamer. Funny but she also has the wisdom of a hag. I'm very happy for her. She deserves success

>> No.70525562

>>70524577
>They didn't use bullet points
I accept your concession

>The poster in the doxxsite wasn't using bullet points, he was thanking the sisters for meticulously combing through Zaion's streams and finding all the shit that could be used against her
So he never actually used bullet points or mentioned them. Great job arguing your point there

>> No.70525662

>>70525562
>Ignoring the rest of the post
lmao
>So he never actually used bullet points or mentioned them.
No one said that he used them. Thanks again for proving that you don't know how read tho.

Sisters, is this your best warrior?

>> No.70525839

>>70525662
>Ignoring the rest of the post
Why would I respond to the rest of the point if you already admitted you were wrong?

>No one said that he used them
Didn't say that you said that. You can't read. Notice how you skipped past him never mentioning a bullet point list though

>> No.70525841

>>70525662
All their US defenders left, all they got left is ESL SEAmonkeys now.

>> No.70525936

>>70525839
>Why would I respond to the rest of the point if you already admitted you were wrong?
Because using the bullet points format wasn't the point.
>Didn't say that you said that.
Your whole argument is based on
>SO WHAT IF THE DOXXPOSTER USED BULLETPOINTS
Again, no one said that. Just take the L and move to the next thread.

>> No.70525991

>>70525839
>Notice how you skipped past him never mentioning a bullet point list though
>Why would I respond to the rest of the point if you already admitted you were wrong?
lmao

>> No.70527362

>>70524549
How heavy thine chip on thine shoulder must be poor anon

>> No.70527429

>>70515858
Many Japanese businesses openly do dealing with Yakuza. All white collar criminal activity is normal there.

>> No.70527603

>>70527362
you're describing sayu now, you retarded simp

>> No.70527913

>>70521927
The same Sony that has a bunch of other tiny shitter corps under their control? Sony who just had to shut down on of those corps because nobody was watching?

>> No.70528044

>>70524410
>already been married
>rich
Isn't she broke and has to pay her deadbeat ex-husband alimony?

>> No.70528203

>>70516452
You like listening to Vox sucking dick Asmr, don't you? Go back to doxxsite sister.

>> No.70528298

Every day I understand more and more why she ended up so menhera after leaving Niji, I almost can't blame her at this point.

>> No.70528321

>>70516507
Damn that's about 8 Finanas!

>> No.70528454

>>70521537
Ok Kyo. Nice try but stop trying to rewrite history.

>> No.70528466

>>70528321
More, I think she multistreams to youtube. Something like 9 or 10 finanas.

>> No.70528583

>>70525936
>Again, no one said that. Just take the L and move to the next thread.

>>70523162
You are a retard

>> No.70528741

Nijisisters are really just a bunch of 39iq useful idiots. Just ask them what happened to Zaion on Twitter, its a different variation of
>she made multiple rape jokes!!!
>she pirated games!!!!!!
>she's a pedo!!!!!!
While the only clip of her they ever watched was the one viral clip of her not even finishing that dumb joke.
Just how kurosanji wants them to act.

>> No.70528783

>>70523973
So the cock asmr listening sisters just happen to track Zaion, who they hate vehemently and her supposed suspension which at that point people still think is vacation like their period calender and timed it exactly at the moment the termination from Blacksanji would release while relaying the exact information that has not been released yet is totally a confirmation bias. This is levels of Stockholm Syndrome I have never encountered yet, guess Vox needs to tone down on the Furry Asmrs...

>> No.70528988

>>70528741
>They came form kpop stans and SEA combination
it is to be expected

>> No.70529314
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>>70528741
fun fact: everything but the last point has been acceptable if not expected for streamers for around 90% of the time streaming has been around as a viable career. JP corporate autism combined with the pussification of the internet and social media brainwashing is really all it took to make one hag the enemy of millions of disgusting fujos

>> No.70529327

>>70528321
I love that this is catching on

>> No.70529417

>>70515858
I got to ask because that document is still a lot of rambling, has Sayu confirmed any of this?
It’s very beliavable, don’t get me wrong, but some confirmation would be a nice extra nail to the coffin.

>> No.70529515

>>70516471
Which one(s)? Give some recommendations please

>> No.70529524

>>70515858
Does anyone have the vid where it scrolls through Zaion's list of crimes with GTA music?

>> No.70529642

>>70518734
TL;DR for everyone: always lawyer up. Never think a corpo is not trying to screw you. That’s what makes these the exception and not the rule, eventually they don’t want the PR scandal.

>> No.70529728

>>70529327
We really needed our own Fractale.

>> No.70529824

>>70529314
Yeah, and they want to convince us Selen violated a rule about “not adding our own IP that we own” in a video that they can’t reference ver existing.
They were trying to damage her reputation by having the video coming out late and blame it on her, but she instead decided to think of the fans and so they used it as ammo to stop her from graduating, so she lawyered up and scared the crap out of them.

>> No.70529926

>>70528583
Sister, have you read the post you are quoting?
>Yeah, he randomly predicted that it'd have bullet-points of infractions (which the poster thanked the doxxsisters for compiling).
The doxxposter never used bullet points, just alluded to them by thanking the doxxsisters for their help. Again, take the L and move on. You are a fucking embarrassment.

>> No.70530108

>>70519180
Especially when a tourists come to her chat every once and a while to fan the flames

>> No.70530151

>>70516674
She's cute but I already watch too many vtubers. I think all late Era nijis suffer from this

>> No.70530467

>>70517475
this is what i was thinking the other day. sisters actually managed to convince a significant amount of people that zaion was a bad person and tried to pull off the exact same shit with selen. this sudden revelation soured me from nijisanji to the point of not watching any of their streams anymore, this fanbase is beyond aids.

>> No.70530934

>>70527913
Yes

>> No.70531002

>>70528298
Hell I'm going menhera just reading these doxxsister arguments and I'm just a bystander...

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>>70530467
You know what is funny/sad? If you actually visited that site and rewinded to a month ago before cover yab they were praising her endlessly for so many creative things. They did instant 180 and now everyone just shits on her. I wonder who is bipolar her or everyone on that fucking site

>> No.70531182

>>70531068
femcels genuinely scare me

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>>70529524

>> No.70531240

>>70530467
It was especially easy to be convinced if you weren't /here/ at that time since majority opinion on Twitter and Youtube were "Zaion did rape joke, Zaion bad"

>> No.70531313

>>70530467
>this fanbase is beyond aids.
That's unfortunately to be expected when your fanbase consists of twitterfags and modern kpopfags. I have no clue if the kpop fanbase was as cancerous in the early 2000s or before then, but nowadays it's not only insufferable but full of actual crazy people.

>> No.70531674

>>70529926
>The doxxposter never used bullet points, just alluded to them by thanking the doxxsisters for their help. Again, take the L and move on. You are a fucking embarrassment.

That isn't a prediction then, you fucking idiot. That's a retard literally making shit up and you retards ran with it. I can't deal with schizophrenics

>> No.70531873

I just want her co collab with Nyanners and Vei for some reason. Even though I'm not sure she'll vibe with them.

>> No.70532083

>>70530467
Seeing them get away with it made my blood boil constantly for the better part of last year due to how much they were proud that Zaion got the boot. Never fall for the "only the sisters in nyfco are crazy" bullshit from anyone here, all of them are the fucking same. I still remember when a majority of the main NijiEN thread on this board celebrated her termination. Actually vile and disgusting bunch.
I am a bit salty about how slow most people came to the realization that they were being fed lies by retarded sisters, but I'm glad that people are finally realizing their bullshit with Selen's situation.

>> No.70532140

>>70518734
i must have missed the part where they only gave you 3 hours to sign then put out a public statement listing every time you farted in a meeting when you refused

>> No.70532207

>>70531240
even if you were here it was easy to buy into that because it was a running joke that zaion was a vod assassin since most of her early streams had to get edited. even i ultimately came to the conclusion that she was not fit for corporate vtubing and that the way she handled things was retarded. now recent happenings and especially pomu deciding to fuck off was really eye opening to just how fucking awful nijien environment really is, along with rabid doxxsis fanbase that put unicorns to shame.

>> No.70532515

This is some fucked up shit, 3 hours to made a choice?

>> No.70532563

>>70530467
I am so glad I hated Nijisanji before 2023. It was by complete accident, thinking they were a Chinese corpo and thus hating them just for that, but now I feel vindicated.

>> No.70532754

>>70532563
well some nijis do actually stream on bilibili and some of them speak chinese and a lot of sisters are actually chinks so you werent too far off.

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>>70515858
holy fuck, please let this be true! Lease the screenshots Zaion!

>> No.70532814

>>70532563
With how much they pander to chinese and b2 audience you were not that far off, they even make some nijiEN stream there. Chinese company in disguise

>> No.70533475

>>70515858
pretty sure that's a black company thing

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