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Based chama. Hiatus soon

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Previous thread
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What happened with Lilith to get such a boost?

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>>7035672
Nigger
>>7035775
Hit 100k

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This is terrible and she's getting underwhelming viewership so far. Graduation soon.

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>>7035943
I've noticed the numbers for the Hololive girls feeling gimped for the last week or two; like youtube is being more stringent towards what they count for views from western audiences.

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>>7036225
Proof doko?

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https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Ds71TFQCr5c

Oh man, the weird-ass peaks are back again, this time on Gura's stream. WTF is YT doing to produce these curves?!

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vnuma alt doko

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Here's some numbers I procured earlier today. There wasn't a numbers thread yet, so I held onto them. Therefore, take these with a grain of salt. I did a search for each Hololive Vtuber, and some of the nicknames that I thought they might have here.
Sora 16352
Roboco 12674 / RBC 3461
Suisei 23469 / Suzy 1432
Miko 25901 / Migo 2020
AZKi 11161

Aki 10936
Mel 15083 (No idea how much of this is Melody)
Fubuki 15832 / FBK 6233
Matsuri 17228 / Matuli 1735
Hachama 33903 / Haato 10579 / Chammers 3354

Shion 10856
Choco 10873
Subaru 14550 / Shuba 3170
Ayame 15452
Aqua 19678

Flare 14495
Noel 18412
Rushia 19199
Marine 29513
Pekora 34120 / peko 9289

Luna 19130
Watame 20334
Kanata 20398
Towa 33773 (Lotta nicknames that don't get many results)
Coco 86807

Aloe 7557
Botan 15863
Lamy 17611
Polka 23130
Nene 28646

Korone 24794 Koro 3027
Okayu 16251
Mio 10800

Iofi 6757 / Lofi 1234
Moona 21228
Risu 24003 / Treerrat 1474
Anya 21079
Reine 29060
Ollie 37246

Irys 15034
Ina 176167
Mori 190325 / Calli 18103 / Calliope 4204
Kiara 207754 / Chimkin 2555
Ame 227370 / Amelia 19771
Gura 297312

I hope this is enlightening.

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>>7036036
Wait why the fuck doesn't this have Haachama on it?

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>>7036396
Nothing concrete; It just feels like a lot of the Holo girls suddenly haven't been hitting their normal targets, especially the ones that get a lot of western viewers. Like, numbers would grow steadily before the stream starts, then that youtube drop happens and the speed of growth slows down noticeably.

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>>7036036

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>>7036942
(Oh I forgot to mention where: I searched a /vt/ archive, nyafuu)

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>>7037098
How is Leos still on this

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>>7035943
Huh? Weren't holobros saying she'll def get at least 100k??

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>>7037172

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>>7037207
Why are you a nigger?

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>>7037207
It's your fault for believing retards. Coco's meme reviews never got close to 100k.

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>>7037328
You better ask >>7009369 about this

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>>7035943
Haatons... I'm afraid it's over for her. It didn't increase at all ever since I took that cap;

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>>7036971
I think they are in the normal. Ia mostly the content right now isnt that great.
Shin chan, pokemon unite, few collabs, kusoges and simulators.

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>>7037531
>>7037579
Why are you niggers?

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>>7037207
Anyone who was guessing over 50k were completely forgetting two factors
>Impact that a guest adds
>Coco Grad buff
These are more in-line with typical reddit shitpost review numbers (35-40k).

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>>7037685
Non guest ones were in the 25k mark. I think only yagoo bot and kiryu got 30k

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>>7036945
>Wait why the fuck doesn't this have Haachama on it?
Takes longer to update I suppose

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>>7037579

That's about the same numbers as Coco got for her meme reviews when she didn't have a guest.

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>>7037817
So I'm guessing the next one (if it ever happens) is going to be in 20-25k range then

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>>7037579
No guest

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>>7038026
If it's a solo-review, I'd expect so yes.
One of the things that makes meme-review as big as it is is the back-and-forth Coco had with another guest. Doing it solo is going to draw lower numbers.

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>>7037579
Cocos Reddit stream panders to JOP and she has a huge JOP fanbase than haachama.

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>>7038189
Haato is never going to be Coco in the first place

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>>7036971
Nothing really exciting is going on for Holos, but your perception of numbers is probably skewed because of the recent Niji buffs and VNUMA's death. A lot of Nijis are getting 35k+ recently, which used to be territory only for Pekora, Kuzuha, 3Ds and collabs. VNUMA's death means people have to grab rankings like >>7037098 with irl streamers that dwarf vtuber numbers.

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>>7038593
>with irl streamers that dwarf vtuber numbers.
We don’t need those non-VTubers

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>>7037531
That was just an overestimation
Probably thought there was gonna be a comeback buff

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>>7038593
I've been feeling this way since around Irys's debut. You're probably right but something feels off to me and I can't put my finger on it.

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pecor... the numbers... kusoge games...

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Fellow holobros... I feel like we're done for. Our numbers are rubbish and no one is looking up for anything. No incline is coming, we have no events and the Olympics are dabbing on us worse than any other agency.

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>>7038715
Yes, VNUMA was good for that. 15k used to be a very good number for a regular solo stream. It looks hella small next to Jun's smug face and his 135k peak playing fucking Rust or something.

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>>7038993
Why are you a nigger?

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>>7038993
Take your (you) and fuck off

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>>7039103
It's true, Hololive's numbers aren't great recently and the Olympics is crippling hololive really badly.

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Graphs anon save us, bestow us numbers

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>>7039200
Why are you a nigger

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>>7039040
The fact that Sutopuri is clogging up the top 10 plus Twitcast being included is annoying as fuck

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>>7038769
Overestimation is putting it lightly. It feels like some have a warped perception of numbers now after Coco's graduation and the grace period after.

Predicting 100k for a solo event announced in a guerilla stream 12 hours ago is not only extreme optimism but borderline retardation.

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>>7039219
I keep telling him to do an analysis of HoloEN's numbers without Gura since she skews them but he refuses to do work for me.

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>>7039040
KoreTube also keeps farming drama almost daily

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>>7039366
A guerilla graduation would hit 100k.

Also the EOP buff isn't very large in live views it feels.

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>>7038923
Vnuma is dead. Now she wants more hours watched for the top female streamers rank

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>>7039510
You should give them a suggestion
https://cover-corp.com/contact/en/

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>>7039541
Now that i think about it, Usada "vnuma in my bookmark" Pekora must be really devastated after the death of Vnuma. Even more than numberbros in this thread.

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I’m thinking Cover will launch Holo EN Gen 2 soon. It’s like they need something to grab some attention right now.

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>>7039801
Why are you a nigger?

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>>7039908
>Pekora must be really devastated after the death of Vnuma. Even more than numberbros in this thread.
Well she still made #1: >>7036036

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>>7038923
Does she care at this point? Just like megaman a few weeks ago, she'll finish this game as long as there's people watching her play it.

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>>7039510
Coco's graduation announcement was heading to 100k if she made it longer than 10 mins.

> the EOP buff isn't very large in live views it feels.
EOP buff for live views has always been a meme and negligible at most. The EOP buff comes of subs growth and clip views. Holos keep growing in subcount at crazy rates, but most of their live viewcounts are the same or only slightly higher than last year. The streams that did get the EOP buff was Coco's shitpost review because she held it in the afternoon in burgerland.

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>>7040077
>peko #1
see: >>7036797

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>>7039962
>>7008411
Anyone?

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Top 100 Most Viewed Vtuber/Vsinger Original Songs of the Week(16 July 2021 - 23 July 2021)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_DmhmtxVAk

- Gura's "Reflect" #1 again this week, but close behind was Obsyida's "Black Out" and then a big gap to #3 HIMEHINA's "Pendulum Girls".

- Nothing really much to note. A bit more HIMEHINA in the list this week due to their new album dropping. Mito's "Uranomito" also appeared in the top 25 as expected.

- Was curious about the song/org breakdown: 55 Hololive, 16 Nijisanji, 14 Kamitsubaki, 5 HIMEHINA, 2 VALIS, 8 Misc

- Top 10 breakdown: 5 Hololive, 3 Kamitsubaki, 1 Nijisanji, 1 HIMEHINA

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>>7039510
Yes, I agree, but that's a different thing.

1. This was "return" of a show on a short notice.
2. She's not Coco, which will turn some off by default.
3. Some of Coco's fans will never touch anything Hololive related again so even if Hatoo isn't a turn off.
4. No guest.

If this had been Coco before graduation announcement without a guest having equal numbers to this would be a good showing. So overall a good result for the return of a show concept with a new host. Now let's see if she does it weekly and can retain the numbers.

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>>7040368
The prediction for Gen 2 that was made a long time ago, was for the end of July. Obviously if July passes, then it was wrong.

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>>7040368

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>>7040381
Black out shouldn't even count, most of those views are from ad plays.
Also how the fuck is Gura pulling ahead of a video that's literally plastered all over ads?

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>>7040631
>it shouldn't count because I say so

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>>7040631
Here comes the legendary anti ad cope

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>>7040664
>>7040677
Nijisanji is so desperate they literally pay for views lmao

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>>7040631
In strictly numberfagging terms, Gura needs to maintain the 570k+ plays she's getting every week if she wants to catch up and pass RIP and Kuzuha's King, both of which get 350-450k plays a week. Reflect hit 7 mil in 30 days vs RIP's 60 days and Kuzuha King's 59 days, so she's still on a good pace.

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>>7040368
hopefully soon. theres no way they will announce it the same month as EN1 anniversary.

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>>7040664
>>7040677
It's not really cope if it's the truth. Niji is using the Blackout MV in their ads, which contribute to the viewcount.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-V0EHF30rk
Just look at the level of engagement in likes and comments it has and compare it to the viewcount. The same thing happened with Diamond City Lights.

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>>7040884
I'm not denying it has ads but saying it shouldn't count is like anon from last thread saying Irys shouldn't count because of her Hololive buff

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>>7040960
I know it's cool to hate IRyS but I will always love how much she made vtweeters and 2views seethe on twitter.

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>>7040884
It counts, but one could argue there should be a small * indicating the presence of ad-usage.
Of course, the great thing about weekly rankings like this is that if there's no organic momentum, it falls off the charts. Gura still keeping up in views and even beating something with ads is certainly hilarious though.

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>>7041159
Is it? I think people discovering song through cm is better than obsessed fans doing reps for the sake of big number.

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>>7041453
*through ads

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>>7041453
Even getting enough fans to do that much is the win.

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>>7041453
Obsessed fans looping songs to pad the numbers certainly worked to bring kpop into the mainstream.
Some no-life vtuber fans doing something similar might help make in mainstream too.

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>Deron koshien
>Sasaki koshien
>Rion koshien
>Kuzuha koshien
>Leos audience participating stream
not looking good holobros...

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>>7041835
*make it mainstream too

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>>7041835
They already kinda did it with Ochame Kinou and KING

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>7041874
No (you) for you, numbers regulars already know that Niji baseball dominates the season.

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>>7041453
Yeah, it's not like the ads really hurt. DCL still remains in the top 100 even after their ads stopped. Meanwhile, I've seen other songs chart high on the first week and then completely fall off the top 100 on the second or third week.

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>>7040960
It is literally paying for views, for all that people here gripe about "paid chinese bots" and what not when you have a video that actually has paid views nobody bats an eye

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>>7042506
>nobody bats an eye
I literally said I know it has ads and I know what a fucking ad is but this isn't the "numbers without ads" thread this is the numbers thread

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>>7038593
>A lot of Nijis are getting 35k+ recently
new debuts, baseball event and apex tourney

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>>7035943
I don't understand these threads. Haato gets 10x more viewers at once than most vtubers have subscribers, numbers that any streamer would kill to have, after a full month of absolutely nothing and people say it means she's doomed. It feels like you just like saying people are gonna graduate.

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>>7043383
One answer: holobronies have skewed perception of numbers. I cant blame them tho since Coco literally killed numberfagging.

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>>7043383
Why do you think we call him a nigger?

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>>7043383
those are called baits, tourist-kun

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I'm of the opinion that the more viewers and money a vtuber gets, the more inclined they are to graduate. Coco could've stayed in hololive with no problem, but since she had already made bank she had no reason to.

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Haato's reddit review was so sudden. Didn't have time to build up hype. I didn't even notice it was on.
I didn't check reddit, was there even a pinned post about it?

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>>7043383
>88 posts
>24 ips
It's the samefag. Ignore him. Anything related "oh no holobros, hololive is reclining" to "Niji is getting easy numbers lately." without explaining or submitting numbers is a falseflagger or a shitposter. Hololive is currently dry on any events atm aside from hachaama resurrection while niji is having a 3 week long baseball event, 2 new wave EN & JP buff and there's a CR cup tourney yesterday that boosted a lot of niji's apex players. I'd give it until the end of the koshien event for the numbers to go back. Numbers in the finals for baseball event might reach 200k, but I'm not sure if it's fair to count that shit. Literal ads. the same for last years. 190k pre YT update + ads is significantly less numbers than Gura's outfit post YT update with no ads. But, who am I trying to argue. Highesrt numbers matter and that, Coco's numbers will still reign supreme.

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>>7043585
literal view bots. 42K vies, 3K likes 38 minutes in?

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The Japanese sure like baseball. Nijisanji planned well to have debuts and baseball around the same time. It's been a quiet time for hololive since the vsinger, not much happening, so they have the spotlight to themself.

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>>7043750
Japanese causal watchers are less likely to leaves likes.

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>>7043658
>>7043750
>holobronies coping again
You must feel sad seeing your whores getting such shit numbers lately. So much for the rrat that Niji's audience is normies/tourists. Holoshit is getting hit much harder by the olympics.

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>>7043850
or more like Japanese viewers in general

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>>7043750
>>7043853
Why are you niggers?

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>>7043903
Should I report him?

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Oliver from NijiJP is pulling a stable 6k right now so anons were right in predicting that's what he'd fall to. ~5k ish tier which is what a fair amount of Nijiguys average at
>>7044018
If you keep giving it (You)s, (You) are the problem as well.

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>>7044069
He's the least popular in this wave (still didn't hit 100k) and most people are watching Sasaki anyway.

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>>7035624
>Prediction for Oga's live viewer peak was between 10k-15k, he ends up getting 11k
>Prediction for Oga's superchat numbers was between 8k-13k, he ends up getting 8k
Guess my predictions were on point
Anybody got the numbers for the previous stars' 3D debuts?

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The absolute state of hololive. 800k subs holowhore getting less viewers than NijiEN.

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Idk why people keep saying niji is inclining while all the big numbers are all because of an event or debut buff. All that numbers don't mean anything if they just get back to 2k viewers a month later.

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>>7044253
Normal people who discuss numbers know that, dramawhores and happeningfags who use this board as a consolewar chat don't even watch streams so they couldn't tell an incline from an event buff

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its fine holobros give them July and August.

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>>7044310
Even if you didn't watch streams, jist lurking enough would clue you in on what is going on in the community. Holofags would be aware of Niji Koshien. Nijiniggers would be aware of the August-September Hololive anniversary season.

This is just retards and shitposters.

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>>7044248
Why are you a nigger?

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Holobros... Roboco has 700k subs. Why is she so below NijiEN?

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>>7044573
Why are you a nigger?

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>>7044202
Roberto: 17k max live, 12.5k USD
Rikka: 8?k max live, 5.6k USD
Shiepi: 14k max live, 13.4k USD
Next MAY be Aruran, not really sure. Oga's was teased pretty obviously on Shien's. Aruran is enjoying an MC buff lately.

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Holobros... were we the normies/tourists all along? Are the olympics destroying our viewership that much?

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50k game over peko

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>>7044930
Ange already got 50k a few days ago. Kuzuha will get 70-80k when he does his koshien stream. Numberfags knew about Nijibaseball buff weeks ago.

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>>7044890
Why are you a nigger?

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>>7044930
54k

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I actually very curious if vtubers are making money from Adsense too.

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>>7044890
>>7044573
>>7044248
>>7037207
>>7037579
>>7037531
>>7038993
>>7039200
>>7039801
>>7043750
>>7043853
>>7044248
Still waiting for my answer

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>>7044997
55... Kusopanda, I kneel

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>>7038593
>VNUMA's death
just woke up from a coma. what happened to vnuma?

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>>7045029
I don't think you want answers, you just want to shit up the thread.

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>>7045121
No I do in fact want to know why he's a nigger.

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>>7045041
Dev had personal issues so he ended the project

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>>7045245
And of course like a typical nip he deep sixed the entire thing instead of handing it off to someone else

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>>7044930
and back to 5k viewers 2 weeks later

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>>7044768
Thanks for the data, anon
As for the next debut, the name with the largest font size in Oga's teaser is apparently Aruran's and it's more or less confirmed that the official reveal order for the remaining five is Aruran->Temma->Miyabi->Izuru->Astel
Actually a pretty neat order since they're debuting stars 3Ds by units (the resident stars shills->MaFia/3rd gen->Yurustars->AsuIzu)
We'll probably need to make more live viewer + superchat predicitions every 2 weeks assuming Cover decides to debut the remaining 5 3Ds that quickly

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>>7045424
Yeah, iirc Astel and Miyabi wanted to go last but Astel ended up getting it. Miyabi's gonna enjoy that Hanakishi buff if Temma appears on his.
Since they need to all debut before their group live at the end of the year, and Shien & Oga were very close together, it makes me think Arupapa's will be soon as well. As for predictions: Aruran was always on the low end of Holostars live views before the wooper looper hunt. But so was Oga.

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7/1 - 7/15 median views (number of streams)
>あやめ37,281(2枠) Ayame
>ぺこら 33,214(19枠) Pekora
>マリン 30,175(12枠) Marine

>スバル24,834(10枠) Subaru
>彗星 21,635(7枠) Suisei
>あくあ 21,446(3枠) Aqua
>みこ 21,392(15枠) Miko

>かなた 17,483(17枠) Kanata
>ころね 17,274(13枠) Korone
>るしあ 17,070(10枠) Rushia

>ねね 14,581(8枠) Nene
>ぼたん13,219(12枠) Botan
>ノエル 12,391(11枠) Noel
>ミオ 10,703(9枠) Mio
>フレア 10,492(14枠) Flare

>わため 9,901(17枠) Watame
>フブキ 9,733(24枠) Fubuki
>おかゆ 9,382(12枠) Okayu
>ラミィ 8,624(16枠) Lamy
>ポルカ 7,684(3枠) Polka
>トワ 6,710(10枠) Towa
>まつり 6,564(11枠) Matsuri
>ルーナ 6,070(14枠) Luna
>そら 5,458(10枠) Sora
>アキ 4,294(4枠) Aki
>ちょこ 3,930(14枠) Choco
>ロボ子3,263(11枠) Roboco

current peko 7/1 - 7/25
>31,423
not looking good pekobros.. Kuzuha or Leos might top her this month. It was a good 8 months run.

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>>7045770
It would be better to compare Leos's numbers at the end of August.

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S-Sugoi
https://youtu.be/NlDlqN6MEIc

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>>7045770
Unlikely for Kuzuha unless he somehow got a bunch of 35k+ streams. The more you stream, the more your average normalizes over a given period of time (in this case, one month).

I don't know who the other one is though.

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>>7045341
I find the effect of these events amazing. In the sense that they dont change the balance of subs or live views in the long run.

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>>7045770
"It was a good 8 months"
Alright, you get a (you) for this one, that gave me a chuckle. If it takes Baseball for Kazuha to beat Pekora, then so be it. Pekora remains the queen of CCV of v-tubing.
>>7045880
There are some songs that are a bit more than 1 week (usually new releases) but it's interesting that the goddamn ONEGAI MUSCLE song got 343K VIEWS THIS WEEK? HOW? WHAT? I'm so confused.

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>>7046006
It got picked up by the algorithm again

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>>7045770
She already lost where it matters. Pekora's viewers are third worlders.

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Reminder to ignore the loser posting Google statistics
>>7045940
Leos Vincent, new NijiJP who got some big juicy numbers, but we have yet to see what his average will stabilize to. He trended on Twitter during the Olympics and got 1 mil views on his first game VOD

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Are there numbers for Coco's first meme review from last year? I just want to compare it to Haato's shitpost review today. I'm betting the novelty of her first Reddit stream would land her 20-25k.

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>google trends in numbers thread
Hi google trends anon, its been so long; how long have you been banned?
It feels good that you're still desperate for yous in your baits.

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>>7043853
>>7045029

Here's your answer. Because you're cherry picking the streams with the worst live views. Everyone knows there's debuff games and bad time slots.

Look at the average for Subaru's recent stream, and this isn't her massively buff Oozora Police stream that hit 90k.

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>>7046315

This is the first one I think.

[Anonymous No.]

marine hit 200 mil views.

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>>7046477
Buff? It looks like she can't hit 20k viewers lately.

[Anonymous No.]

wow thread shitters are upping their game, replying to their own post with real proof.

If you're falling for bait then maybe its time to get off the computer.

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>>7046536

This one.

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>Google Trends guy
>(You) farmers farming thmeselves
>very little actual number talk
What is this numbers thread even? lol

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>>7046879
It’s always on American late night / European early morning meaning the only possible suspects awake for that are
> SEAniggers

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>>7044380
I'm happy Niji is doing so well in July with all their events, I'm even watching their 2021 wave, Leo at least is already looking like a legend.
Fuck the baseball shot is boring though.
Let's see if they can hold these numbers into early August, when the debut and baseball buffs are over and the Holo anniversary events start.

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>>7037579
Unironically streaming in a non EU timezone could affect in that numbers. Her usual streams are in prime EU hours
(Fuck it I got asleep and I couldn't watch it live)

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>>7046477
Olympics started yesterday. Lamy is currently getting the least amount of viewers she has ever gotten for her RE8 streams and Pekora's peak in FF7R is much lower than her previous one in a very free time slot without many overlaps.

Expect everyone else today to get shit viewers as well lmao. Holobronies have been exposed as tourists/normies after all this time of accusing Niji's viewers of the same thing.

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>>7047005
From SCs and the Yab analytics image in Sept her biggest fanbase outside JP is still the US
But yeah, at under 35% JP audiance, Haachama's watchers are from all over the world, every continent counts.

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Is Pekora getting sponsored to play any of those games or she’s just grinding to increase her “watched hours” to rank up in that numberfag rank?

She seems to be streaming twice a day, thrice maybe

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>>7047097
She's carrying hololive because marine is on break.

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>>7046945
I unironically love baseball, since Ryuushen stopped doing her situation collabs last year nijisanji is lacking in narrative content and koushien is basically that. Kusopanda's baseball stream this time is an especially amazing watch.

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>>7047134
>marine is on break.
Semi break, will likely still put more streams than Ayame and Mel

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>>7047097
She wants to play these games on stream. It's as simple as that. Story driven games are a debuff to numbers. But lots of people still like them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7046945
>boring
It's a highschool alternate universe sim with hype baseball moments, check out bully panda's last stream she got Koshien and it was crazy fucking close. But I'll end that here since this isn't numbers
Kuzuha is doing his at 20:00 JST. Number predictions?

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>>7047097
to be fair, if she managed to get that number 1 female streamer spot. it might just generate a series of free exposure when the clickbait aggregator sites talks about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047097
She wants to play them. If she played xenoblade she can play anything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047097
She said it before, she want the no.1 female streamer spot. Otherwise its just her normal weekend+holiday schedule

[Anonymous No.]

>>7046879
> Coco murdered numberfagging
> VNuma died, burning the corpse

this is just a thinly veiled (you) farming general now

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047288
If not in raw views/subscribers it might pan out in more sponsorship deals.

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>>7047246
>She wants to play
>>7047385
>She wants to play
I’m not disputing that, Pekora does what Pekora wants and not even her mom can force her into anything.
It’s more a comment on the recent grind and maybe >>7047288 has the correct take, she’s going for #1.
How many days did Amouranth lost for getting banned? If enough days Pekora is smart enough to numberfag her way to #1

[Anonymous No.]

Hskw has 10k with Apex, holy crap
She REALLY lassoed the twitch audience collabing with Shaka

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047251
>Kuzuha Number predictions
80k sounds reasonable, but 100k is not that far fetched, i just don't know for sure about nips autism with baseball.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047251
Haven't been following the Baseball steams to closely but just judging by the overall numbers for the event streams were the lows have been in the ~25k up to 55-60k(?) for the highs there's definitely potential since he's a heavy hitter. 80 k maybe?

With that said Japan has a football game starting at 20:00 JST, will be a good test if there is any overlap in viewers with the Olympics. Sure different sports, but it might sway some normies away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047513
The amazing thing is she did it by playing the easy-to-approach personable girl persona, which, knowing hskw, is pretty far from how she is normally around gundou.

It also helps that she's gotten a lot better in apex, no easier way to bait viewers than with a story of growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047513
It dropped down to 7k already. I think she'll probably go back to her usual number after a few days.
With that said I don't know if she's still chasing her unreasonable goal of 1m subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047591
I'm going to say 60k/70k just because Sasaki's numbers were inclining hard due to a lot of close calls and lucky draws whereas Kuzuha is just building a team/rolling stats. And then there's the Olympics. But, Leos streamed over the Olympics and pulled ~50k while Kuzuha & co. were playing Pokemon unite. Lots of things to consider

[Anonymous No.]

Leos is live, 15k after 2 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

Niji is inclining hard while we are getting fucked by the olympics because of our normie bandwagoner audience. It's not fair holobros.

[Anonymous No.]

Holobronies truly got cocky

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047251
He's getting 90k peak because of primetime boost + sunday buff. The others alone has an increased live view peak of around 45k+ for the first 30 minutes then it'll trickle down to 70k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047759
Nijisanji focusing on niches while converting normies into loyal fans which worked super well in 2019-early 2020 really fucking paid off.

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized that Leos got 160k subs already, is he going to reach 200k within this month at this rate...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047759
Why are you a nigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047839
There are people in Nijisanji who debuted in the beginning and don't have 200k. Sad but also funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047678
>her unreasonable goal of 1m subs.
1m, period or 1m in 2021?
She picked up 43k in the past 30 days, which would put her subs growth rate on par with Luna, and her sub count is just below.
She won’t make it for 2021 barring some HUGE second semester growth explosion (which her blonde BFF incidentally got, in 2020) but she’s set for 1M in Q2 2022 for sure.

If she wants it in 2021 all she needs to do is to stream
>fuck China, Taiwan numba one, free Tibet
pee on and sit on the face of a Xi effigy and wait for the world to burn

[Anonymous No.]

>Kuzuha numbers
I'm calling <55k
Powerpro starts very slow, a large portion of the stream would be the tutorial and character creation which is uninteresting, aside from checking out the first year's stats.
>Lower than Sasaki?
She had the tightest game possible with much on the line
>Olympics
Mostly irrelevant to the demographic

[Anonymous No.]

Did Leos cannibalize viewers from others in nijisanji? I'm interested if nijisanji's supposed strong point of low audience overlap per talent is shining here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047934
Nah he didn’t, he brought new people into the fandom, nijisanjis forte

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047892
That's just the nature of entertainment industry (or anything really). Some gets huge success right off the bat, some has to work hard for it and some will only hold little to modest success for their entire carreer.

>>7047900
Yeah I forgot the 2021 part in my post. Hskw has been working really hard to gain more popularity so I'm glad it's paying off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047934
He streamed over Kuzuha and some other guys playing a buff game so not really.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think YT bug still exists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047900
It's impossible for her to rely on nips to get 1M in 2021. Even Kuzuha is getting only 16k subs in this week alone with all the buffs from Apex tourneys. She can't rely on Apex alone to boost her numbers.

>>7047934
Nah nope, he's bringing in tourists atm, other nijis number is so-so. Though, He's doing a pretty good job stretching his debut buff

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047892
Out of the first wave he's already overtaken Aki, Moira and Hajime and will reach Elu pretty soon, hell he's nearly halfway to Shizurin's number already

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047839
>currently at 33k viewers
Jesas
How many viewers would he have gotten if Tetris won instead of Mario Kart, though?

[Anonymous No.]

Someone really needs to tell Iris not to play apex. She could get better numbers playing DBD, GTA V, horror games or solo minecraft instead. The things that could get a reaction out from her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047739
33k right now. A lot of JPs are live right now too, but not the big number pullers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048058

I would say he's been pretty smart with what he games he's started off with. Beloved old school game with a challenge into a viewer participation Mario Kart stream. Either he knows what he's doing or he's just stumbling around and doing the correct moves by luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048040
It’s not a bug, just a change in how they count live viewers from what they did in 2020.
The change only applies to the stream itself, not to the waiting room which leads to the very awkward situation of both Mel and Aki having their peak viewers
>before the stream even started

[Anonymous No.]

genuine question, how is leos becoming so popular so quickly? what is it that people like about him? happy for him nonetheless!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048247
Have you seen his debut stream?? It’s like time travelling to 2018 and the he did an endurance stream the day after.

Today he’s doing viewer participation. He knows how to play the game extremely well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048247
Autism for male streamers is the same as sex sells for women, he has plenty of autism to spare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048212
Where did it pull 2,781 viewers from? Can't see it on the graph.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048212
So the chasm consists of adblock users and bots, who subsequently are removed from CCV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048247
He feels like a Gintama character

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047892
2021 wave had a really big boost in exposure compared to other waves, the lack in competition from Holo or Sony helps too.
It's not surprising that they're getting so many viewers and subs, but also Leo's the real deal so far. A pretty unique and entertaining streamer, depending on what else he does, he might pull a Coco and jump into the top 10 in the first 2 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047513
One of her most popular fan artist revived recently as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048247
>legendary debut stream that got him trending
>poorfag and in debt which is like crack to concernfags
>streamed an endurance game and played it incredibly well while talking the entire time (and that trended too)
>good chat interaction right off the bat
>mameneko is interesting and everyone loves it
>now doing a viewer participation stream during JP evening hours
He's ticking off checkboxes like crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048359
sekai mo namida mo tsuyosa mo
WASURETE

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048359
you know what, at times he does sound like sugita

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048333
>Where did it pull 2,781 viewers from
The chart starts on the stream start time, but it collects data from the waiting room as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048247
Hate to break it to you, but there's really nothing special about him other than him being smart numberfag. Anyone could pull off big numbers when you're told that you'll be debuting as a male liver after a long time. He's just operating his streams in a strategic manner and act accordingly to pull numbers during debut. He made a good decision to stream games not Apex and chose a game that he could speedrun. Today, he's choosing mario kart to lay off some heat while retaining it. 3 days later after debut, he paid off because Oliver is already sent to the gallows, the other two is barely hanging on with Apex and I don't care enough for lain. All in all, he feels like someone who would lurk number threads, take notes, check graphs, research a number of games and what makes individual streams popular online. Just a mad scientist all according to plan, but honestly I doubt he could do that for long. Maybe a month, but that's good enough. He could stay around 8-13k views every time he streams as compared to other livers. If only holoEN 2 could do the things he does and treat streaming seriously for a month or two for viewer retention and building a fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048456
Oh I see. It's just that Aki's graph top is somewhere around ~2,300 viewers which isn't that far from 2,531 listed while Mel's looks closer to 1,800 which is almost a thousand away from 2,781.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048341
If it's Adblock users, then that's a high % of EoPs on Desktop, so it would impact Holos, SEA and Western streamers most i guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048494
Your ass might be the HUGEST in the thread, congrats

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048494
Posting a whole paragraph when you could've just said "i'm coping"

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048341
>So the chasm consists of adblock users and bots, who subsequently are removed from CCV?
I don’t think it’s adblock users, it’s some sort of AI mystery meat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048494
Why is it so hard for people to admit men can be entertaining? And why are you not bringing up the fact that Lain is 2nd most subbed despite doing literally nothing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048576
>numberfags actually watching vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048576
>Why is it so hard for people to admit men can be entertaining
That would be weird considering the biggest names in online entertainment are all men.
Having a cute anime avatar doesn’t make anything different with regards to the sex or level of entertainment a streamer can provide

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048494
While i agree with a lot of what you wrote, most people still want to play to his on screen persona, because it is believable.
And they want to believe because he just is that entertaining.
You can crunch numbers and tick all the checkboxes as much as you have time in the day, if you're boring as a streamer people will leave.
Leo isn't only consistent with numbers right now, he slowly inclines during streams, as people come in from others and decide to stay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048494
I bet his Live2D dying during stream is also part of some deep strategy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048657
Yet every time a male pulls numbers its
>viewbots
>numberfag pulling the strings behind the scenes
>people only care because he's a male in Nijisanji and they all have a male buff
>Nijisanji is spamming ads

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048494
>writes a wall of text
>instead of just writing help me I'm coping

get help

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048657
>>7048792
Can you quantify your rant? because this is numberfag thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048844
Well if you want numbers he is streaming his BRB screen after panicking because he showed the Nijisanji app IP (which is not a big deal at all, no one can do anything with that info) with 27k viewers so lets see if that's also part of his mastermind numberfag plan

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048494
Whoa there dickens, I didn't ask for a life story, just post numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048792
You are giving too much thought to anonymous shitposts designed specifically to get a reaction out of you.
You know there are (you) numberfags too, right? They throw the most stupid bait waiting for you little fishies to bite

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048877
He's playing the klutz card clearly! More sympathy since now he's not only poor, he can't handle technology!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048877
He literally finished his stream and might do a zatsu. Still that wont retain the numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048538
>>7048567
>>7048790
>>7048834
>>7048898
Say what you want, but I'm just genuinely unbiased in my opinion. All I could say is that he's plans well as a new liver. But, he's really going to get 8-13k after the second month. I'll give him that at least. He's just doing good stretching the buff. Just enjoy the numbers for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048968

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048993
I think he could be kuza 2. But hasnt show any of his normal content yet. Seems like hebis delaying it as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048993
>But, he's really going to get 8-13k after the second month.
8k-13k are great numbers, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049025
>kuza 2
Thrones (Lauren and Axia) is Kuzuha & Kanae 2. Apexfags (but actually good at the game) plus teetee on the side, while Kuzuha and Kanae focus on stepping foot into idol stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049053
Did I ever say it was bad? It already puts him on top of most livers in the company. Just look at other livers. You don't seem them get more than 8k consistently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049073
Lauren and axia will decline he went yesterday from 35 to 23k in less than an hour. They are not in the dame level of leo and neither as charismatic

[Anonymous No.]

>>7045029
lol thanks for making my reports easier

[Anonymous No.]

>"Lain is faking her scuff for moe points and is targeting the scat fag crowd"
>no one bats an eye
>"Leos is playing some things up for attention"
>everyone jumps down his throat
Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049073
>but actually good at the game
That can actually not be a good thing. People expect a whole lot more for good players (like Aqua) than they expect from meh players (like Choco).
It’s all fun and games until you’re getting haters because you’re only on the top 99% instead of the 99.9%

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049073
>Thrones (Lauren and Axia) is Kuzuha & Kanae 2.
Chonoir is popular not because of apex. Blue and red are a disappointment as a niji vtuber, they dont bring new shit. Leos is hayato or toya tier, and oliver is gwelu or something. Idk bout the girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047892
They don't have a legion of pity subs from EOP

[Anonymous No.]

Nijichads i kneel. Do cover even have one event project manager? They don't seem to understand to retend viewer interest, you need constant big events and new content in the entertainment industry. All large events seem to be organized by the girls themselves like mario kart tournament by towa and sports festival by miko. They badly need a numberfag, someone who can just come out with stream events and gather all the girls who are free and willing to do them. It is not efficient to leave everything to the girls themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

Just a general point towards the veracity of live viewer numbers.
Kiara did a poll in her member watchalong and after a minute commented that there were more votes than viewers according to her dashboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049294
They said they're cutting back on 12 hr FPS streams now that they're contracted and someone needs to step up and take the slot of Apexfags who perform well in tournaments. Whether it works when the time comes, who knows

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049339
That is the stupidiest thing i have ever seen written that sounds serious and im calling it a rat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049241
>People expect a whole lot more for good players (like Aqua) than they expect from meh players (like Choco)
I don't think people would stay for a game even if they're a predator. Hal doesn't get good views from solo streams than he would with Kuzuha. It's usually the personality + Gaming skills. Aqua and Kuzuha have this. Kanon had this once then she got kicked into the bin. High gaming skills don't get you the high views, you only get them if you can be damn well entertaining while playing. Go smug, funny or retarded all you want while seriously pushing you rank if it gets you the views. Just don't be a serious cunt or a normalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048341
The system seems to rely on your ability automatically go to the stream after you go to the page. So, if you're tabbed out, have adblock or seems to have playback issues the stream won't load and your view won't count until you actually start streaming. After that, it depends on whatever YouTube decides is not a "spam viewer".

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049330
We just got off a one month Coco masturbation tour and in august everyone has an anniversary or live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7035943
>35k is underwhelming
80% of hololive would kill for those numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049339
they've never said they're cutting back on 12 hour FPS streams. kuzuha is still pumping out 10 hours pokeunite streams almost daily and i dont see that stopping any time soon. there's also baseball and vsaikyou coming soon. he's an addict, an idol contract isn't going to stop him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049330
Just copy nijisanji event and be done with it, idolfags will watch everything his oshi push out

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049429
This. You could suck at the game but being entertaining and chatismatic gets you going. Lauraen dorsnt have that his views will decline sub 10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049472
It's ironic that he gets better views in a P2W mobile legends game than Valorant

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049339
Did you just read a random speculation in another thread and spiraled into this? I don't remember hearing them saying that at all.
Kanae did have a period of streaming in less hours due to tournament burn out and irl schedule until recently, while Kuzuha didn't change much because he's a fucking NEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7048792
>one of these is not like the others
Anom, the whole Manjisanji meme is predicated on the idea that men are naturally superior entertainers who stand to gain even from being the butt of jokes and that women generally lose if they have to collaborate with them. The numbers support this and you calling it some kind of cope doesn't make it so when in fact the opposite is the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049609
Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049609
Well, that P2W mobile legends has Pokemon as their heroes

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049609
it's not really that ironic... he has always been bad at fps games, while in pokeunite he's about to reach master, and was on the world leaderboard top100, last i remember.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049429
This, i usually tune out and switch to other channels to watch when they die in an apex stream. Only a select few apex chuubas are actually entertaining and worth watching the whole rounds.

https://youtu.be/C6WD145XGtM
Aqua can even make ratting entertaining in her solo streams, don't really need a collab partner to bounce off and keep the stream entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049330
Yeah, Cover is nothing without their talent. It's a shame, I wish my oshi and her friends got more support. Sure in nijisanji there is favoritism and certain talent get more support. But in cover it's like everyone is treated the same. Not much support given to anyone for big events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049718
Is a kids game so tryharding in it is kinda pointless.
Also is unite a buff or debuff?
Lauren numbers are awful compared to yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049714
You would think as Valorant to be the second most popular FPS game after Apex and playing it could get you good views. Kuzuha played it a lot just that he plays them after playing Apex and hide them under the name Apex for his streams but all he gets are ~13K views. Seeing him get 17-18k from the new game is funny.

>>7049779
Pokemonunite is already dead to me since it is seen as P2W now. I can't be certain of this after watching MoistCritikal's recent gameplay, but that game boosts your character a lot by spending. Just overall bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049784
*could

[Anonymous No.]

>>7035624
Lilith is the one that likes getting fucked in the ass right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049824
Buff if you're funny/toxic, debuff if you're a regular game streamer. If the top performing Niji boys return to it we'll see if it's really a good numbers game, or just something everyone watches due to being new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049906
From what I've seen on Niji side, only Kuzuha gets high viewership from it, while everyone else has their usual number or only gets boosted a tiny bit. It's absolutely not the general number game at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049855
To be fair, you need constant full concentration when playing valorant with the low ttk. It is hard to constantly talk and be entertaining while playing valorant. Astel tried valorant and instant dropped it cause it is too stressful and tiring. Also valorant is pretty shit to spectate compare to csgo imo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047251
~60k viewers, peak at 75k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049855
Sure, it's P2W, but I'm just suggesting that people would rather watch someone dominate in pokeunite than be stuck at silver rank despite all the hours he spent in valorant. That 13K is pretty much his core audience that would watch anything, even.. fucking conquerer's blade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050030
>Astel tried valorant and instant dropped it cause it is too stressful and tiring
Oh fuck, if Astel of all people think something is tiring it cannot be anything but.

Dude has the same level of stamina as Choco and three times the autism

[Anonymous No.]

Kuzuha is absolute dogshit at FPS, If he was good at Valorant he'd probably get higher but he's shit at APEX and Valorant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050112
1/2 correct, it looks like he will not experience a peak from the gacha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050345
You don't need to be an absolutely god at apex, you need to be decent and really entertaining to get high numbers on apex. A good example would be twitch apex streamers like shivfps who is good at the game with his gremlin personality. He gets higher numbers than some pros who are technically better than him but boring to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050764
hell no need to go for nonvtubers to see it. virtual gorila is an absolute beast at apex but i don't remember him ever beating kuzuhas view numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050112
Peak prediction reached already

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050723
His bad luck lead him to reroll twice, which resulted in him peaking at ~75k.

[Anonymous No.]

holobros this cant be happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050723
Kek and he's at 77k now.

[Anonymous No.]

Lauren at 5.2k and Kuzuha at 76k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050929
>>7050980
Yeah, due to his bad gacha luck (that resulted in him rerolling twice).

[Anonymous No.]

comeback stream of eop princess, with two major drama buffs
75k

king's baseball
78k

holobros... how do we cope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051013
So bad gacha luck kinda turned into a good luck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051023
a regular stream of Oozora Police got 93k mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7007636
>https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/nijisanji_all
THANKS A LOT! That's enough for me to kickstart the Niji charts in the same vein of the Holo charts.

I'll count on your guys help because I am not familiar at all with Nijisanji. Here is the first question:

What does that site mean by these subdivisions on Niji streamers:

>にじさんじ(1・2期生): nijisanji
>にじさんじ(ゲーマーズ出身): nijisanji_gamers
>にじさんじ(統合後): nijisanji_after
>にじさんじ(SEEDs出身): nijisanji_seeds

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051023
Guess holofaggots should just graduate someone to get more viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051044
2 weeks ago or so? holoshit gets cucked 20+ hours/day for all week straight

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051023
You still haven't answered why you're a nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051056
They are basically their version of generations, there are like 20 generations now if you number all of them so at some point they decided to get creative with the names.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051056
Those are roughly equivalent to holo x-kisei
Honestly there isn't much value in segmenting them

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051056
Old divisions from 2018

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051056
don't know much as well but the wiki has a nice overview.
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Nijisanji
still any nijifag that sees some wrong infos should probably mention it

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051101
But the site only has those four monikers, seems more like a greater subdivision than a generation.
I'll try to cross reference it with other sources, that was help enough to get me started

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051091
why are you only asking that to people who shit on on holotrash? seething much, poor holobronie?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have numbers on how all these niji koshien streams did last time around? All I remember about last year was one of them went up against Towa's 3d debut, the poor girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051119
I just realized that both Gamers division at Hololive and Nijisanji are successful

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051174
People who can game are successful at a genre that puts heavy emphasis on gaming streams
All there is really

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051119
Gamers only had 2 guys? The rest are girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051091
>it's ok to shit on nijinigger when they at the bottom but when holo at the bottom: reeeeeeeeeeee
Do holobronies really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051223
surprising isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051056
>>7051056
Nijisanji initially debuted 2 generations, then nijisanji gamers was a separated group focusing on streaming games. Seeds was another group where they hire experimental livers (there was also Voiz but I it counts as SEEDS). After that they merged all devisions into one, no wave debuted after this is ever referred as generation so I guess this site just put them in the after group

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051119
>Honma is in gamers
>she fucking sucks at everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051119
Show's that volatility of nijisanji numbers when Luna can regularly outperform in live views these huge names in her former gen in nijisanji as one of the lower performing Holomembers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051252
Yeah. A lot of anons were always memeing manjisanji so I would've thought a majority of gamers would be guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051056
back in 2018 Nijisanji debut people under different groups, like a general group as seeds, video game focus like gamers....blah blah

Later they realize it's fucking stupid and decide to get rid of all the group bullshit and unite as one

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051142
>>7051240
I don't see any niggers shitting on nijisanji here, the only niggers appear to be you, so do answer the question will you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051301
Nothing more pathetic than an internet tough guy. Hopefully you get some self awareness

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051284
She's cute and that's all that matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051284
to be fair no where does it say that they are pro gamers. as long as they like to and game a lot they should be fine

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora defeated. Kuzuha holds the highest solo game peak stream now.

ソロゲーム配信最大同接TOP10
>21/07/25 75,000 葛葉 パワプロ
>21/06/01 70,073 ぺこら FF10
>20/11/15 70,069 ぺこら マインクラフト
>20/11/03 67,465 ぺこら マインクラフト
>20/11/13 67,346 ぺこら マインクラフト
>21/01/01 67,237 ぺこら プリコネ
>20/10/29 61,451 Gura 宇宙人狼
>20/10/30 61,443 ぺこら マインクラフト
>20/12/06 61,049 Gura RFA
>20/10/13 59,717 Gura マインクラフト

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051286
I don't know much about business, but if i were to be a mid tier company wanting to sponsor either Hololive or Nijisanji for my product that is fairly successful globally and locally, which company would be the best pick? Could Niji sway my decision if they present to me their numbers during Koshien event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051372
Why don't Holo girls start a big event to beat Nijis
Even something like a Hololive-only APEX tournament would be p. big

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051119
Thanks! From that I was able to gather the following list. Any anon has any correction?

-- NIJISANJI JP --

--- First Wave ---
>Tsukino Mito, Yuki Chihiro, Elu, Higuchi Kaede, Shizuka Rin, Shibuya Hajime, Suzuya Aki, Moira

--- Second Wave ---
>Mononobe Alice, Fushimi Gaku, Ienaga Mugi, Morinaka Kazaki, Suzuka Utako, Ushimi Ichigo, Yuuhi Riri, Kenmochi Toya, Gilzaren III, Fumino Tamaki

--- Gamers ---
>Kanae, Akabane Youko, Sasaki Saku, Yamiyono Moruru (retired), Honma Himawari, Makaino Ririmu, Kuzuha, Setsuna (retired), Shiina Yuika

--- SEEDs ---
>Dola, Hanabatake Chaika, Hassaku Yuzu (retired), Izumo Kasumi (retired), Azuchi Momo, Nakao Azuma (retired), Naruto Kogane (retired), Ryushen, Sister Cleaire, Suzuki Masaru, Todoroki Kyoko, Umiyashano Kami (retired), Uzuki Kou, Yashiro Kizuku, Kanda Shoichi, Amemori Sayo, Takamiya Rion, Asuka Hina, Maimoto Keisuke, Debidebi Debiru, Rindou Mikoto, Joe Rikiichi, Machita Chima, Tsukimi Shizuku (retired), Sakura Ritsuki, Achikita Chinami (retired), Belmond Banderas, Yaguruma Rine, Yumeoi Kakeru, Kuroi Shiba

--- VOIZ ---
>Harusaki Air, Naruse Naru

--- 2019 Wave ---
>Warabeda Meiji, Kudo Chitose (retired), Gundo Mirei, Yuzuki Roa, Onomachi Haruka, Kataribe Tsumugu, Seto Miyako, Shindo Raito (suspended), Otogibara Era (retired), Inui Toko, Ange Katrina, Lize Helesta, Saegusa Akina, Aizono Manami, Suzuhara Lulu (retired), Yukishiro Mahiro, Ex Albio, Levi Elipha, Hayama Marin, Nui Sociere, Hakase Fuyuki, Kagami Hayato, Yorumi Rena, Mayuzumi Kai, Ars Almal, Aiba Uiha, Amamiya Kokoro, Eli Conifer, Ratna Petit, Hayase Sou, Sukoya Kana, Shellin Burgundy, Fumi, Hoshikawa Sara, Yamagami Karuta, Matsukai Mao, EmmaAugust, Luis Cammy, Fuwa Minato, Shirayuki Tomoe, Gwelu Os Gar, Mashiro, Naraka, Kurusu Natsume

--- 2020 Wave ---
>Furen E Lustario, Melissa Kinrenka, Ibrahim, Nagao Kei, Genzuki Tojiro, Kaida Haru, Kingyozaka Meiro (suspended), Sorahoshi Kirame, Asahina Akane, Suo Sango, Todo Kohaku, Kitakoji Hisui, Nishizono Chigusa

--- 2021 Wave ---
>Axia Krone, Lauren Iroas, Leos Vincent, Oliver Evans, Lain Paterson

-- NIJISANJI ID --

--- First Wave ---
>Hana Macchia, ZEA Cornelia, Taka Radjiman

--- Second Wave ---
>Rai Galilei, Riksa Dhirendra, Amicia Michella, Miyu Ottavia

--- Third Wave ---
>Azura Cecillia, Layla Alstroemeria, Nara Haramaung

--- Fourth Wave ---
>Etna Crimson, Bonnivier Pranaja, Siska Leontyne

--- Fifth Wave ---
>Nagisa Arcinia, Derem Kado, Reza Avanluna

-- NIJISANJI KR (South Korea) --

--- First Wave ---
>Wiffy (retired), Yu Ruri (retired), Shin Yuya (retired), Min Suha

--- 1.5 Wave ---
>Moarin (retired), Gaon, Kaen (retired), Lorou (retired), Han Chiho, Hakuren (retired)

--- Second Wave ---
>Lee Siu, So Nagi, Chae Ara

--- Third Wave ---
>Akira Ray, Lee Roha, Nun Bora

--- Fourth Wave ---
>Oh Jiyu, Shin Kiru, Yang Nari, Ryu Hari

--- Fifth Wave ---
>Seffyna, Ban Hada, Song Mia

-- NIJISANJI EN --

--- First Wave ---
>Elira Pendora, Pomu Rainpuff, Finana Ryugu

--- Second Wave ---
>Selen Tatsuki, Rosemi Lovelock, Petra Gurin

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051403
Depends, many holos get a major VOD buff.

>Could Niji sway my decision if they present to me their numbers during Koshien event?
Yes, easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051372
>highest solo game peak stream
Is this like the Women chess championship or the special olympics, some made up subdivision to create artificial "winners"?

If I have to say I would say that is unbecoming in a numbers thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051414
Holo girls ain't numberfags. They prefer quality over quantity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051325
And you're free to answer the question, why are you a nigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051414
I don't think you know how an Apex tournament works

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051403
If they only want Japanese consumer they will go with niji, if they want oversea consumer they will go with holo, simple as that

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051414
Most of peko numbers in that list were from school festival arc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051414
we had the summer festival not even a month ago. you can't just do non stop big events since that will kill all hype for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051423
You can double check on the wiki, it's up to date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051056
>nijisanji_after
>>7007318 >>7007959
>>7007393 >>7008072
2021 wave is Edengumi

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051414
They don't need to. Just Usaken or Mario kart tourney had 200k+ viewers if they were accumulated together. Both are after post YT live view update, so one person for one stream. It doesn't count views if you're tabbed out or you're using ad block.

>>7051461
They need something to cope after Coco mogged most of the records. A month ago, people were using "Highest superchatted stream" from Fuwa. Plus, Kuzuha had a pretty large buff on him whereas Pekora is finishing a game by herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051607
I know I can anon, that's where I fetch it from. One extra set of eyes making sure this lowly numberfag didn't get anything wrong in the "transcription" would be nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051642
>They
It is one (1) anon. There is no they, it is the "sodappoping" guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051423
Wait, is graph anon really trying to get data for livers too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051471
Pekora, it's already too late for this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051471
Third gen Holos literally have a schedule they make together so they won't overlap and they can funnel numbers into one stream at a time sure they're not numberfags lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051423
>VOIZ
Were dissolved and integrated into SEEDs
>NIJISANJI EN
>First Wave
Lasulight
>Second Wave
Obsydia

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051461
category shit nip numberfags do. They have like highest collab, highest 3d, etc.
>>7051642
one google search, its the holofags doing this listing... https://holosoku.com/talk/4441/

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051734
SEEDs and Gamers do not exist anymore but you can still mark them as such to organize this fuckhueg group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051678
>Wait, is graph anon really trying to get data for livers too?
Yep.

>>7051734
Sorry anon, I won't be using the "codenames" for the waves because ID has all sorts of weird codenames. I don't use "Hololiv Fantasy", "Holoforce" or "Holomyth" for Holos either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051762
>category shit nip numberfags do. They have like highest collab, highest 3d, etc.
PFFFFF, that's ridiculous.

What's next?
>Highest electone playing stream
So Luna can have a #1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051515
If they want overseas consumers they'll go with holoEN. HoloJP is a dead end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051814
cope all you want. like I said its the holofags doing this type of categorizing ranking stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051787
>>7051423
So, here is the final categorization for Nijis, sort by branch and wave

> JP: First Wave
> JP: Second Wave
> JP: Gamers
> JP: SEEDs
> JP: VOIZ
> JP: 2019 Wave
> JP: 2020 Wave
> JP: 2021 Wave
> ID: First Wave
> ID: Second Wave
> ID: Third Wave
> ID: Fourth Wave
> ID: Fifth Wave
> KR: First Wave
> KR: 1.5 Wave
> KR: Second Wave
> KR: Third Wave
> KR: Fourth Wave
> KR: Fifth Wave
> EN: First Wave
> EN: Second Wave

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051787
>with their respective "waves" and debut dates
Those "codenames" are basically names of their "waves". Oh well whatever do what you want.

[Anonymous No.]

why do every koshien stream start out strong at their peak and quickly start dropping numbers as it continues?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051877
If you're going to show graphs for these by waves the numbers will be really weird considering none of them act as units besides EN and I guess ID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051877
Jesus, already 5th wave in kr. Are they that not confident on their own talents? At least give them one year to see the results.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051883
>>7051917
>If you're going to show graphs for these by waves
I don't plan to, except in cases it would make sense (like the recent 2021 or the EN ones)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051912
>holy shit baseball!
>Kuzuha talked about x liver!
>Oh he's talking about people idc about/taking forever on characters, bye
Sasagy got numbers towards the end because she was actually playing and the game was tense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051414
It takes effort to tard wrangle in Hololive. And cover doesn't offer much help with game events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051877
Good enough. They merged Voiz and Seeds but keeping them separate will not cause any confusion since it's just 2 guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051912
Because he’s rolling and making his first 6 team mates, expect views to increase when he starts playing.
Happened to all captains thus far

[Anonymous No.]

So someone in the Botan thread pointed out that she might be the fastest to 1 million subs of the HoloJPs. But interestingly Ollie of HoloID will probably be faster (debut -> 1million subs time).

Ollie spent more of her time in the high growth period of post-EN. But what if they debuted at the same time? Ollie has 730,000 subs now, a bit less than eight months after debut. In the same time after debut, Botan also had 700,000 to 800,000 subs. Actually it seems really close, just about 730,000. So it's a bit confusing: Botan lived during a slower growth period, so reaching 730k in the same amount of time should mean she has faster growth. But Ollie is growing faster than Botan now, and she will have a faster 700k to 1mil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051976
Yep that mario cart tournament organized by towa was quite a disaster...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051960
I trust your judgement graphbro, がんばれ and thank you for slapping this thread straight.

[Anonymous No.]

lain paterson 24k

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051056
Playboard is not a good number source for nijis. They are missing alot for example https://playboard.co/en/video/h0Gr7iw_x3A levis 3d no ccv.

[Anonymous No.]

what are the brackets for this koshien tournament anyways? I looked around for a bit, couldn't find shit

[Anonymous No.]

Graph anon, since you're trying to build this DB on Nijis for numbergraphs, you might end up having to create a separate model for Hololive using HoloStats and one that compares Holos and Nijis using the same source (I assume it's playboard), just to eliminate the precision bias argument.

We really need a new VNUMA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052109
https://twitter.com/mosupine2434VvV/status/1416370942981246977?s=19
In the archives the names are posted in the What is Nijisanji? general if you don't know them but I'm lazy

[Anonymous No.]

To think that the mansanji thing got BTFO by lain of all people, who would’ve expect her to be cute, funny a great talker and overall entertaining.

This isn’t just a good day for holofags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052188
i mean pic related. With the dates

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051403
Very easily. What sponsors really care is about local engagement, overseas viewership might as well be nonexistent to who actually buys thier product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049330
>Cover has been praised for 2 years for how well their marketing team promoted and spaced out events to create hype and keep viewership, while also bringing attention to the entire industry
>Niji has 1 good month
> What are Cover event management doing?
So this is the life of a numberswhore? Have a mental breakdown over every little change in the status quo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052274
just ignore the baitposter, stop giving him (you)s and he'll go to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052274
It's not as if Cover has a consistent problem of managerial issues or good hires

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052274
>while also bringing attention to the entire industry
Great job at bringing (negative) attention with constant scandals indeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052224
A: 8/13 12:00-18:00 JST
B: 8/14 12:00-18:00 JST
Finals: 8/15 18:00-22:00 JST

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051877
JP: 2019 Wave AND Seeds will look atrocious with their 40 and 23 active members respectively. Especially against the other branches, like En with 3 per wave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052274

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052352
Nah still overall a positive effect of bringing the spotlight on vtubers in the scheme of streaming
But ofc they could've managed so much better

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052080
>Playboard is not a good number source for nijis
Is there any other source? I can scrape pretty much any source but whatever it is must have Nijis and Holos

>>7052184
>you might end up having to create a separate model for Hololive using HoloStats and one that compares Holos and Nijis using the same source
That's what's being done

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052032
>Aqua having an emotional breakdown
>Aqua fags tormenting Towa for some odd reason
>Suisei being such an ass she's no longer friends with Kanata
>Marine obviously going far beyond playful teasing
>Rushia having a breakdown that didn't seem fake
Any others I missed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052409
*shitlight

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052439
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052425
>Suisei being such an ass she's no longer friends with Kanata
Wut? That's a very composite and exquisite rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052425
Wasn't even counting those. More about how Towa was selecting participants and how shit was the visual side of the main (?) stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052419
>must have Nijis and Holos
Thats the problem, all tools are Holo or Niji exclusive, or are tools for all streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052456
this has stopped being the numbers thread ever since vnuma died. It just another rrats central

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052425
General lack of production value and scuff?

The results screen was a travesty in the least
They also didn't know what to do in the case of a participant disconnect

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052489
It breeds unity though. This thread has the most Holofag and Nijifag interaction on the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052533
unity in shitting on the loser of the day?

[Anonymous No.]

did haato's meme review reach 50k? i missed it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052533
>unity
half of the posts are just tribal baiting

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052402
Hey it's actually averaging at ~200k views. Pretty trash for Hololive's standard, but it's probably doing better than Niji's programs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051403
You're asking two different questions in your first sentence. If you want overall reach, you go with both. But if you must pick one, then you choose Hololive because it has better overall market reach.

>Could Niji sway my decision if they present to me their numbers during Koshien event?
If what you want is to advertise/sponsor during Koshien (either present or future), then the answer is yes. But if what you want is to sponsor Nijisanji long-term (even after Koshien is done, then the answer should be no since Nijisanji doesn't seem to carry their event popularity over to regular streaming.

Ideally, you want to view the entire year's viewership statistics to plan out your sponsorship/marketing strategy if you want it to be effective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052566
No. 24600 / 37500 is the stat line

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052564
>>7052570
Interaction is the start of unity. Staying in various hovels breeds hate more than interaction. The most we mix the more we will love. Diversity will be our strength.

[Anonymous No.]

Konami is nijisanjis bestfriend since 2019.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052026
Nothing weird about it. All of the HoloENs hit 1 million faster than any JP, and Ollie is tapping into the same boost for her growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052597
lol, not even close, niji variety shows are their strongest suit, I remember that even marine wanted to copy their format.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052688
well al ENs got the fast 1mil boost, but Ollie was the only ID to get it. She is at least a little bit special

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052597
It's not close. Hologra mogs the Niji equivalent tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052706
This is interesting, could it be a candle to compare how engaged the JP audience is between the two companies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052630
I'm a Nijifag who hates tribalism and I only started posting here because the thread needs some Niji perspective that isn't rrats, and I'm glad Nijisanji is getting some graphs so we can equally compare. The thread also gives some insight on Youtube view count trends when the video starts which I had no idea was so weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052616
same numbers as Coco, but I was expecting more people, was it bad? I know haato's english is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052707
She gets it because she actively targets the EN fanbase with her streams, way more than any of the other IDs.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Holopoi down again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052597
Nope, Niji's group stuff on the main channel is what brings all the fanbase together. a lot of them get 1 million views.
Or brings the tourists, depends on which side you are i guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052756
Hololive got fucking called out by japs by “coping” the levigacha format on 5ch. It was hilarious.

I think niji copied the 3D anime though

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052768
To be honest Coco's reviews were mostly about pandering to JOPs by posing as a gaijin schtick, and Haato even more so. Given the recent apathy of JP viewers 37.5k is rather generous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052756
Not really at this point, the Niji variety programs are "an institution", they've been running different type of weekly gameshows and 3D programs for years now.
Holo didn't use to do these type of shows consistently till recently.

[Anonymous No.]

Feels like holofans rather watch programs on the girls' channel rather than the main channel, forming a habit or culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052706
They shouldn't copy their style. If I was the planning director, I would have them do 10 minutes skits on lore / meme videos on the level of haachama and bordering anime. Hologra is too short and revolves around the workplace. They should just hire Kanauru, dudul or any other overseas artists/animators for this and the talents would the voice recordings. It feels like the director is some 40 year old boomer thinking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052845
Just because hololive doesn't have any creativity doesn't mean you can accuse nijisanji of copying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052533
There's only a handful of real nijifans in number threads. The baiters are most likely falseflagging holo antis who are trying to get a reaction out of folks. Real Nijifans know the reality of Niji's numbers so bragging about heavily buffed baseball/debut numbers and doomposting about holos is just going to come back to bite them in the ass when the buffs wear off. I wish I can say the same for my fellow holofags, but we have a lot of more retards on our side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052768
>same numbers as Coco, but I was expecting more people
Coco starts shilling her Reddit Review on Reddit almost a week in advance, and usually has guess.

Haachama wings it a couple of hours prior and has Haaton as the ***HOST*** and Haachama as the guest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052889
Holofags treat hololive like a real time anime. Thats why their hologura and holoalt getting more views than variety shit. Nijisanji is like gaki no tsukai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052889
This is what happens when you force growth by pushing individual channels just to grab fans instead of cultivating organic growth which creates more loyalty and understanding of nijisanji as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052706
even the newest videos in that screenshot are older than the first episode of the hololive gaming shop show

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052889
Not really, Maruyama just isn't .that fun or interesting to watch It's more fun to watch an unscripted Marine/Towa/Subaru collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052913
Actually you’re right since gamebu was the one who popularised the 3D anime before their company went down the shitter. My bad anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052889
The main channel is still really popular.
People gather for the streams, where it has the highest live numbers, and the HoloGra stuff have a lot of views, but this variety prerecorded stuff is still too new and novel and probably not well promoted by he girls themselves.
I only found it randomly when checking for the latest HoloGra

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052860
I dont think niji shows are in anyway similat to holos maruyama. Not sure why people are making the comparision since one is about promoting niji and the other promoting upcoming or released games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052955
>Holofags treat hololive like a real time anime.
That's true. In don't know about other companies but on Hololive it is less about events and more about "arcs" or "seasons" and sometimes MCU style "overarching stories" with crossover finales
> like Shiranui doing their thing on Minecraft and HoloEN doing their thing and Akukni doing their thing and Usaken doing their thing but a huge crossover happening for Usaken Summer Festival

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052845
>I think niji copied the 3D anime though
No, both copied .LIVE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKay0vETOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053001
The people talking shit in these threads don't watch either levergacha, Ib's show or maruyama. They're just sprouting head canon and hoping other anons take their word for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052845
>“coping” the levigacha format
I don't understand what this implies. Could you elaborate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052032
Towa did most of the work with some help from achan and some behind the scenes support from mio and subaru. Towa is not skilled in the technical side of streaming at all, she just wanted to play mariocart with her senpai. She did a great job. It cannot be compared to any of the events nijisanji put on. it is unfair to compare them. Cover doesn't even try, it's sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052966
From a company standpoint i agree but personally i rather the members do better than the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053044
Nijis were doing the 3D thing on their own without it being a company thing, they weren't copying .LIVE. Hololive did though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052860
Nijisanji actually had the earliest vtuber variety show called Nijisanji no Kujijuuji that was running from October 2018 to March 2019 at AbemaTV. Their original shows LeberGacha and B-grade Variety are kind of following it in spirit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052995
That average Video Views stat is complete garbage btw, not even Mr Beast gets 1 view per subscriber, but it's very tilted by music channels who get 100mil views for 1mil subs.

Anyway, Hololive channel was the only vtuber channel who had 1 million views per video on average until Maruyama started. At 200k per video it's not a failure, it probably even brings the most money because they're usually sponsored

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053077
Anon, if you agree with him, then you're a retard too. It's the same retard who said this shit yesterday >>6997802

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053072
And what I'm saying is that it looked like shit because Hololive staff didn't want to take any responsibility and provided 0 support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051423
KR merged 1st gen & 1.5 gen, now they treated as 1st gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053109
Nice trivia to know, never caught that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053162
Does it dismiss the agenda though? The quote has a point, especially looking at the recent numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053168
Hololive fans don't want to watch company-organized events in the first place. The occasional collab events taking place on the main channel get less viewers than your average Pekora/Marine stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053098
He means the anime not Niji3d

[Anonymous No.]

>Sora doing a "daisenpai" collab
I still remember when Siro was so far ahead in subscriptions it looked like something unattainable for lowly mortals.
>Today she was just surpassed by Choco with Luna on her trail

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone keep track of the peak views for the new Niji debuts today? Playboard still isn't recording their viewcounts. From what I heard:
- Leos got 33k
- Lain got 24k
- Oliver got 6k
- Lauren got 5.2k (?)

Also, nice I predicted Kuzuha would get between 70-80k peak for Koshien and that seems about right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053278
Lauran got 10k at the peak

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053252
I genuinely felt bad for Mirai Akari when she was called a Heavenly King when she's become irrelevant since 2018.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone is getting lower numbers than usual, Marine is in a collab with Suisei and Mio and just getting her usual solo numbers. Looks like holoviewers are all normies who went to watch the Olympics instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053235
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/hololive
Stop spewing lies. The number of viewers vary depending on who's part of the collabs on the main channel, but most do better than Pekora/Marine's average streams (25k).

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053278
it was 10k for lauren. i wont expect a lot from him outside of FPS.
lain is impressive.
leos was higher than 33, 35-36 or so i think? not sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053293
Hey at least she's still alive unlike Oji Loli Cat

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053235
>>7052889
Where are all these people with shit takes coming from?
Collabs on the main channel get 50k+ viewers unless it's some small thing, like opening some vtuber chip packs when only 2 holos are featured.
This is the numbers thread, at least back up your shitty takes with numbers.
>>7052995

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053278
Lauren: 10.5k
Leos: 35k
Oliver: 6.6k
Lain: TBD
@2434rankings

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053312
That looks pretty terrible considering that nijisanji pulls 100k a lot more often while not having as many streamers with average of 20k viewers. Meanwhile mighty hololive has an official channel that doesn't do significantly better than their solo streamers.

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>>7052995
Shits a waste of money tbqh. they should focus on holoalt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053371
Speaking of holoalt, what the fuck is happening with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053340
The only collab to break 50k in the last month was the Nissin collab at 60k, which was already a decline from last year's numbers. Everything else was 25k or below, the numbers don't back you up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053278
Not sure if Axia counts since he started streaming just before the end of the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052995
They should just bank in on the meme / lore market above all. Imagine if they hired KANAURU to do 5-10 minute skits with a few accomplished animators on board.

They could do a scene from a movie clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZMcvOU3mNM

Or, they could merge 3D with real life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMGGTXjWuvM

This episodes would be worth much better and EOP-friendly than Maruyama. The talents would just need to provide the voice recordings. Plus, I get a feeling that JOPs are much more interested to know about overseas stuff through their favourite hololive talents.

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>>7053432
I somewhat expect axia & lauren to go through some flame if they haven't already, expect their numbers to dip

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053399
Fuck knows. Everyone still waiting for a new chap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053405
https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-stream
litteraly use the site you mongoloid. scrolling just a bit further after whats in the picture you would see another collab that broke 50k

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053501
>3D concert
>collab
Lmao is this the legendary holocope

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053405
>unless it's some small thing, like opening some vtuber chip packs when only 2 holos are featured.
Anon, your reading comprehension reps... Getting 4 holos and playing word games/looking at merch is not a big collab.

[Anonymous No.]

This month did really high damage to the hololive fans, dang

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053520
>3d concert
you're retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053485
I don't get why people say this, their dislikes may be the most out of the wave but its negligible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053220
>recent numbers
One, two weeks are not enough to determine a trend, specially when both companies get their highs from special events
> debuts, 3D debuts, 3D lives, anniversaries, birthdays, special tournament arcs, special collabs

It is the favourite local jousting to look at the daily number but even looking at the 14 days moving average is not enough to smooth out the "outliers".
>pic related

The "calm" period for Hololive shows more or less where their baseline should be: 14 days average around 8k.
These past few weeks tho it was one special occasion after the other: HoloEN new costume, several JP new costume, UsakenFes, Coco graduation, Ayame and Haachama returns.

There is nothing in those events that represents where the real company numbers are. I still don't have numbers for Nijisanji but I can assume it is the exact same.

One thing that is clear from that chart tho: the bottom is being consistently raised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053527
>>7053501
You guys are discussing with mister "forced growth" is pointless.
>>7053485
I think that lauren will dip too. Given how much his views fluctuate yestarday and todays numbers also.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053570
Why are you a nigger?

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>>7053527
>get 4 holos and put them on holo channel doing random stuff - 35k viewers
>get 4 holos and put them on official channel doing random stuff - 25k viewers
>get 4 nijis and put them on niji channel doing random stuff - 25k viewers
>get 4 nijis and put them on official channel doing random stuff - 60k viewers
Hololive official channel is a debuff for collabs, the complete opposite of Nijisanji.

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>>7053570
How so? This is the month where Coco won the numbers forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053520
USE.THE.SITE.RETARD

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>>7053483
I agree, most huge youtubers just do short skits and highlights and those get huge views. Game maruyama is just too long with almost 30 mins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053306
>t. doesnt watch any holos to know better

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053371
Regarding HoloALT, I recently heard some accusations against Fubuki's presence and possible allegations of her viewbotting. Are any of these claims proven?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053629
Why are you browsing chink sites?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053608
Because is a show about shilling a game. Otherwise they wouldnt let them use those games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053629
The rrat general is two streams down and to the left. That and you need your meds too, now if you can stand still just a little, this won't take long

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053588
They've pretty much alienated the pure-er fanbase unless they do a 180 on their stance. Their histories don't help them either.

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>>7053629
>I recently heard some accusations against Fubuki's presence
If you're gonna drop a rrat like that, you're gonna need to elaborate what you mean.

>and possible allegations of her viewbotting.
Yes, Fubuki, who has consistently averaged around 9k viewers for over a year now, is viewbotting

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053604
Nijisanji baseball says other wise holofag 550k live viewers baby easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053629
hello zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053306
6 of the girls (including Flare) that are streaming are all above 10k. No buffs. Only exception would be Marine. The only person that is streaming that is hitting above 10k is Kuzuha and the new girl. That is just funny.

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>>7053604
>Coco won
Just had to drop her career for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053739
And even from the dead, she's bringing the numbers by reviving Haachama. She just can't stop winning.

[Anonymous No.]

>16k on some spongebob game
how does korone pull shit like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053590
>todays numbers
He's been playing a supposedly debuff game though

[Anonymous No.]

>Miko doing a "show us your room" contest to peddle the Holo AR app
I wonder if there is an avenue to numberfag apps too, is this app doing any good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053674
The rrat general is shitflinging without any backup, this thread is really the only place to come for sources and affirmation, I thought someone would have something

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053785
Here is the App Store link
https://apps.apple.com/jp/app/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC/id1459233516

Miko shilling for it is working at least for me, I didn't have an idea such app existed

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053810
Isn't it pretty shit? It hasn't been updated since 2019 and back when I checked it out it was pretty limited in functionality

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053786
>this thread is really the only place to come for sources and affirmation
With regards to publicly disclosed numbers from official sources, otherwise it is just shitflinging without backup all the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053785
What? It's still alive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053810
think it recently got an update that should have added more of the holos and updated the models. remember the holos twitter talking about it

[Anonymous No.]

yea it's got a recent update

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053786
You could ask in global. But is a stupid rrat invented by zhangs that says fubuki is a mastermind and she conspired against coco and aqua for money and cover shares. And she bought views with thta money.

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>>7053786
In general when you hear "viewbots" or "botted x" in a rrat you can discard it without any consideration. The only two exceptions are if it's on twitch, in which case it's easy to verify so they better have sources or you can discard it out of hand, or if it's an ad in which case it's more "Paid views". In either case sources are easy to get so no source = bullshit.

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>>7053602
>get 4 nijis and put them on official channel doing random stuff - 60k viewers
I'm just going to grab the 6 most recent, non-pre recorded, non-tournament collabs on the main Niji channel

4-Niji 3D ping pong collab, 23k peak:
https://playboard.co/en/video/RX20LfQDjU8

Koshien NijiBaseball draft, 137k peak:
https://playboard.co/en/video/jR5wPTxruZg

Monster Strike tournament with 16 livers, 19k peak:
https://playboard.co/en/video/o6FV20cxNK8

4-Niji collab 15k peak: https://playboard.co/en/video/5r6Y5ZTHFzA

Rain drops (6 livers) doing a radio show or something, 6k peak:
https://playboard.co/en/video/PiB1GmOL2h8

Bomberman match between 2 Nijis, 42k peak:
https://playboard.co/en/video/vgSqYtTk0rY

https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCX7YkU9nEeaoZbkVLVajcMg/videos?videoType=2&sortTypeId=10

Apart from Koshien, which would have been 100k+ on anyone's channel, and 100k+ tournament streams, I don't see what's so different between the viewcounts between Niji and Hololive main channels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053843
Didnt it got updated this month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053908
Oh wow it did. I didn't know that. Guess that's why she's doing such a stream now

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053901
Now those are numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053682
>histories
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053432
Looks like Axia will be doing a talk stream in several minutes so the bottom number is irrelevant after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053306
After the shit Japan had to go through with the Olympics, it feels like the Japanese are almost obligated to watch it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054098
Rene 774 didn't even know it was happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054098
They werent watching when Leos was live

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053306
More like they're idolfag boomers who still watch TV

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053114
>hat average Video Views stat is complete garbage btw, not even Mr Beast gets 1 view per subscriber, but it's very tilted by music channels who get 100mil views for 1mil subs.
Anon, that just means that there's more people paying attention to the Hololive channel than there are subscribers. It's a channel activity metric as opposed to retention. The ratio would be greater than 100% on channels with more views than subs.

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>>7054098
That Anon has been the spamming his doomposts for hours in this thread. Just have a look at the numbers yourself. Marine peaked at 43k which is definitely not her normal numbers. Everyone else is getting their normal numbers, with the exception of Aqua and Irys. Aqua is playing a game that Holos have played to death at this point and Irys did a guerilla Apex stream at 1:45 am PST/4:45 am EST.

https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053901
Speaking of Koshien, when is the main event began?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054281
There is literally no "normal numbers" for Irys yet.
She debuted 2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054293
>>7052374

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>>7054298
I agree, but her numbers are worse than what she's shown so far because it's literally one of the worst timeslots for an EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053485
Axia is getting 12k for a zatsudan which is pretty good.
I can see Lauren's attitude rub people in the wrong way but I think Axia will be fine. He's just a cute boy who's good at Apex. Girls love him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054384
Someone needs to simy drop a max level fat aka telling her to simply stream at 10/11pm EST or 10/11pm JST and stick to it. She's gonna fuck up her audience if she keeps doing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054626
>simy
What?
*simply

[Anonymous No.]

Holo numbers are mostly normal, You guys are just acting weird because of Koshien and new debut buff.
Even Aqua debuffing herself has reached 15k twice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054298
>She debuted 2 weeks ago
Also she’s “EN-AZKI”. I don’t expect her to get any numbers at all other than (let’s say) iTunes rank and oricon, whatever falls into her lap on streams is gravy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7035624
Today's numbers

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>>7054976
IMO, if she picks a consistent timezone that's not real bad for the majority of NA (8-9pm PST allows her to at least grab latenight West Coast), I see her doing Kiara-level numbers, which let's be honest, are still decent all things considered.
Pretty sure Kiara's ego would take a hit from that though, even if she knows the reasons why her numbers (besides SC) are bad at times.

[Anonymous No.]

Kuzuha is still going strong btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055419
She'll definitely do at least 8-10k as long as she isn't a dumbass about her timezone, she just really needs to pick a timezone and stick with it soon otherwise she's going to end up like Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

you dumbasses still seem to assume that the ENs still give a damn about the live numbers, especially after all the spamviewers bullshit. They just check their total views and unique viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055414
again just 2 holos
what went wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055641
Fujoprinces with their fucking relays

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055491
Of course its stable, more than a half is just viewbots

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055641
>what went wrong
the list is filled with normie shit.

[Anonymous No.]

I will wait until irys drop a few more karaokes and her unarchive karaoke to judge. She is marketed as a vsinger and her karaokes are pretty good, even better than her covers imo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055775
yeah, they should exlude akaihaato ch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049339
are you the same person who keeps saying they signed a 5 year contract or some shit? or are you parroting him? there was no such thing and they didn't even mention a contract on stream shut up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055797
>even better than her covers imo
She over-produces herself. I think it'll work out but we'll see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055672
mucho cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055563
>you dumbasses still seem to assume that the ENs still give a damn about the live numbers
Who are you talking to anon? Who are you even talking about, HoloEN or NijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055775
Stop coping, you're embarrassing the rest of us.

t.holofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055672
Stop coping, you're embarrassing the rest of us.

t.holofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055800
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>7035624
Oh the weekly one is out too

[Anonymous No.]

>>7056396
OH NO NO NO NIJIBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

[Anonymous No.]

>>7056396
my oshi in 3rd place

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051240
ESL
>>7051325
>Nothing more pathetic than an internet tough guy
there's you I guess but that bar is indeed too low

[Anonymous No.]

>>7056396
H-Haachama

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055414
>>7056396
what's the point of these when it's filled with non vtuber stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057249
You can both filter with your eyes and see the disparity between VTuber and non VTuber worlds

[Anonymous No.]

>>7040717
>>7040884

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057472
holobros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057472
Fake shit, Cover banned swimsuits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057249
more data, i'm fine with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057472

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057472
>>7057679
Wtf? I love ads now!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057679
its all fake hololive will never fall that low