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was it ok?

>> No.70298820
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70298820

>>70295775
At the risk of getting attacked from all sides.
I ... found it underwhelming.

>> No.70300086

>>70295775
It was alright

>> No.70300339

>>70295775
I hate seeing the homos, so no. Bae is officially worse than Mori, congrats cuckbeats.

>> No.70300435

>>70295775
I really liked it, my favourite was the monkey song

>> No.70300481

>>70295775
I liked it

>> No.70300493

>>70295775
What? Stop vagueposting, you falseflagging cunt.

>> No.70300640

Let me start saying I like Bae a lot, I'm not a unicorn or a hater but got bored halfway through the live and went to do something else

>> No.70301023

Nothing against Bae herself but I just really dislike her music.

>> No.70301126

>>70298820
This is an anonymous imageboard. You can say whatever the fuck you want, coward.

>> No.70301899

>>70301023
It's strange to see you say that like she doesn't have a lot of different music. I myself only like about half the songs on the new album, but to say you don't like any? That seems very limited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WXVFl-N6-o&list=OLAK5uy_nKp29RuXFk2zJTVYw5lLD_S0mCI7pSjqo&index=1&pp=8AUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQPpSw6RY-0&list=OLAK5uy_nKp29RuXFk2zJTVYw5lLD_S0mCI7pSjqo&index=6&pp=8AUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcuGYBedbiU&list=OLAK5uy_nKp29RuXFk2zJTVYw5lLD_S0mCI7pSjqo&index=8&pp=8AUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7qfYF3wZH4&list=OLAK5uy_nKp29RuXFk2zJTVYw5lLD_S0mCI7pSjqo&index=10&pp=8AUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KyZi4-KdWc&list=OLAK5uy_nKp29RuXFk2zJTVYw5lLD_S0mCI7pSjqo&index=13&pp=8AUB

>> No.70302382

>>70295775
it was shit, just like you Bae. fucking homos homos homos everywhere, it doesnt matter how much effort you put into something, it's instantly nullified by your stupidity and cockthirst

>> No.70302431

>>70295775
It was pretty shit but so is everything bae does. Her album flopping harder than even her ep is hilarious

>> No.70302513

>>70302431
I hope she cries herself to sleep knowing all her hard work was for nothing, that literally no one cares about it

>> No.70302556

kono sekai wo terasu mono is my jam. Reminds me a lot of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ0-VPr75Y0

>> No.70302666

>>70301899
Not >>70301023 but
I can feel Bae’s dedication, thoughtfulness, enthusiasm, etc., and I appreciate them separately, but not as a whole. It’s like things almost clicked but they aren’t. Like she’s in a transition phase between a completely amateur and a professional with the awkwardness so noticeable you can’t overlook it.

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70302730

>>70302513
i don't watch her at all but happened to watch the show and thought it was kino so speak for yourself.

>> No.70302743

>>70295775
Very good concept album with a lot of varied song selection. My favourite song is Gekirin since it's fucking badass

>> No.70303060

>>70302730
Nijisanji is burning down, no need to respond to their bitter troon sisters having a melty at everything in sight. Enjoy what you want my man. I myself thought the show was kino

>> No.70304289

>>70295775
I liked it enough to buy the CD even though she's not my oshi.
I can't wait to hear what she makes next.

>> No.70304355

>>70302730
Bae put on a good show but for obvious reasons the unicorns are seething.

>> No.70304799

>>70301126
you sir, are a poopypants and i do not appreciate you

>> No.70304824

>>70295775
The fire effects on that one song were dope

>> No.70304972

>>70302513
I bet you wouldn’t say that to her face, or anyone’s for that matter! Online bullying is for pussies. I love my idol oshi rat and she is wonderful and successful!!!!

>> No.70305013

>>70295775
NTRbros stay winning

>> No.70305110

>>70305013
Bae does not do NTR fuck off

>> No.70305196

>>70304355
More so shitposters, there's nothing that should bother a unicorn since they've had literal years to understand Bae's content.

>> No.70305256

>>70305196
>they've had literal years to understand Bae's content
NTA but that doesn't make a difference for unicorns.

>> No.70305313

>>70305256
Unicuks don't care, they will attack girls they have never watched for "betraying" them all due to their ideology of no males.

>> No.70305367

>>70295775
Are you talking about the live or the album? because I loved both

>> No.70305437

>>70295775
Good dancer, bad singer. Her singing voice is worse than Kiara's.

>> No.70305521

>>70305437
What an insanely terrible take.

>> No.70305527

>>70305196
Unicorn is just a buzzword at this point, it means nothing. If you don't like something, you either get called a unicorn, or a homobeggar, sometimes both. Usually by the exact same people who make the shittiest posts screeching and crying.
It absolutely doesn't matter which holo is being "popular" here at a certain moment due to a live or whatever, people will think it's a good opportunity to bait the fanbase and they're usually right.

>> No.70305566

>>70295775
I don't really watch Bae and I enjoyed it. Alchemy and Blooming in the Mud were great. Her new song is pretty good too.

>> No.70305615

>>70305521
You're right, her dancing isn't too great either.

>> No.70305622

>>70305527
You get called a unicorn for bitching about males.
Homobeggar is a bogeyman for anyone thinking unicorns should just shut up and go away.

>> No.70305679

>>70295775
Meh is the best way to describe it. It was what most people probably expected, nothing more nothing less. My issue with Bae is it's really dumb to keep working with holostars. She works in a group where the huge majority of people are only there to see the girls, and it's not just unicorns, every metric shows that most people only watch and support the girls. They're different genres with different fanbases and little overlap. It's like joining a rock band and mixing jazz songs into your setlists all the time. You're never going to have as much success as if you just focused on the rock music.

>> No.70305784

>>70295775
Bae's a decent performer and she has the heart but overall it was just another run of the mill live
Points deducted for sucking off homos in it too, of course

>> No.70305818
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70305818

>>70295775
Bae is being happy, successful, and doing what she’s loves regardless of anyone else’s opinions.

Meaning we of /vt/ wish her the worst and hope she gets terminated.

>> No.70305817

>>70305679
A lot of people find male vtubers weird because guys don't need anime avatars to be successful streamers. You can be the ugliest guy on Earth and still make it as long as you're funny and entertaining.

>> No.70305845

>>70305679
While I get that, how often does she REALLY collab w Stars? I can count on 1 hand how many times *I* personally remember, maybe 2 hands? If she was collabing w them just as much and she was with the girls, I could understand the valid criticism. But it’s not even like her content is centered on Stars.

>> No.70305863

>>70305622
The exact same people overuse unicorn and homobeggar here, artificially trying to manufacture some autistic war in every second thread. All of them should get shot to death like the animals they are.

>> No.70305924

>>70305817
Girls don’t need anime avatars to be successful either. They both just prefer the anonymity.

>> No.70305964

Blaming every little thing on the unicorn boogeyman is a classic nijisister technique so I hereby declare that sisters are seething and falseflagging.

>> No.70305993

>>70305924
Looks effect female streamers much more than male streamers. Ugly women have virtually no chance of success streaming.

>> No.70306009
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70306009

>>70305110
Are you kidding? She's the best in EN at it at this point
Kronii and Ame gave her a run for her money but it seems like they bowed out
Bae just had a stream not too long ago where she got double teamed by a couple of em for the second time for a watchalong right?

>> No.70306025

>>70305845
I don't know the exact number, but the answer is she does it enough for it to have affected her image and turned people off of her content.

>> No.70306043

>>70305845
I think people just shelved her as the homocollaber at the beginning and stopped watching her at that point. She practically never brings homos to her own channel, except special occasions like her birthday or the food wars streams, and she rarely collabs with them at this point, especially with EN homos. I couldn't care less about holostars either, don't hate them but wouldn't watch their streams, but I can follow and watch Bae without issues nevertheless, especially considering the amount of content she puts out. So it's probably just a mix of bad first impression and the result of shitposting that hasn't stopped ever since.

>> No.70306096

>>70305845
It's very rare, once in a blue moon, reading /vt/ you would think it's every other week. Bae is probably the EN that is most lied about by people who don't watch her

>> No.70306148

>>70306009
You don't even know what NTR means you projecting cuck. Unironically end your troon existence.

>> No.70306199

>>70306096
Anything to make the rest of EN not look half-asssed.

>> No.70306218

>>70306025
Good thing Bae keeps to her guns and is genuine. She doesn't put on a unicorn-friendly farce.

>> No.70306229

I really hate her idol outfit. Her default one is much better.

>> No.70306251

>>70305863
Unicucks are literally making threads
Where are all these homobeggar threads? They are not the same.

>> No.70306260

>>70306229
I think her idol outfit is better for dancing

>> No.70306278

>>70305818
considering how much it costs to produce music and the other stuff, is she working for free for the next few months?

>> No.70306316

>>70305845
Her biggest event ever had homos front and center. We saw with tempus that having multiple girls be friendly with them leads to absolute cancer. I'm glad most of them seem to have learned to stop, but Bae still is there to shill homos with watchalongs and on cover's shill streams and I'll never forgive her for it.

>> No.70306320

>>70306278
Probably. She either works for free or she doesn't get a good chunk of the merch money that comes in. Apparently she has another MV coming soon, it literally never stops

>> No.70306348

>>70305437
This.

I like Bae, but I’ve never been a huge fan of her singing voice. Mess is probably the only song of hers I genuinely enjoy.

>> No.70306364

>>70306316
Yeah we already know you are an anti as if you didn't make it obvious enough, you can fuck off now

>> No.70306369

>>70306251
They are literally the exact same people coming from the exact same discord servers and you're likely one of them.

>> No.70306434

>>70295775
Pandaemonium was better

>> No.70306511

>>70305993
Looks isn't what's being supplemented here, it's kayfabe. I honestly do not believe Fauna or Mumei would cut it as regular streamers and they're both insanely beautiful. Without the pretense of being an anime girl with lore, they would have no personality. This is true for most of Hololive including the males.

Obviously there are exceptions like Dokibird that do have the personality and energy but are really being helped by hiding her appearance.

>> No.70306582

>>70295775
Gay vagueposter
Album was pree good if that's what you meant

>> No.70306587

>>70306320
Makes me wonder much money the other girls are just pocketing and then playing Palworld.

>> No.70306661

>>70305845
She has done debut watchalongs, movie watchalongs, consert watchalongs, studio offcollabs, game collabs, roberu's bar, boomer collab, art reaction, cover's holopro collabs, song collabs, bae-gemate for the homos and i'm probably still missing a few

>> No.70306944

>>70306661(me)
And 3d lives of course

>> No.70307659

>>70305437
She's leagues better than Kiara. Kiara's singing voice is really hard on the ears.

>> No.70308185

listening to the live now, she needs to stop ending every verse in that high-pitched chirp

>> No.70308333

>>70306009
Off topic but, go ahead and explain your reasoning behind naming Ame in that list. Go ahead. List the reasons. I’m sure you have multiple examples. Or really even one legitimate example of NTR. I’m curious.

>> No.70308480

>>70308333
Is this a brat deflection attempt? How about the love song duet with the blue homo. That's what made me stop being a teamate

>> No.70309633

>>70308480
But she did a lot of "duet" songs with lots of holos?

>> No.70309728

>>70302431
what's an ep?

>> No.70309825

>>70309728
extended play aka a mini album

>> No.70309878

>>70309633
The homos are not holos

>> No.70309956

ROGUE RAT RUN AWAY

>> No.70310199

>>70305679
What if, and I know this is a hard thing to accept for people /here/, that's something she WANTS to do? She had 50k people watching even when Roberu and Shien were there, so why would she let a vocal minority prevent her from doing what she wants to do when she's plenty successful as it is?

>> No.70310390

>>70310199
Do you really think that number would be anywhere near the same if the guests were only homos? Their presence is merely tolerated at best by the majority. Barely anyone actually wants them there

>> No.70310580

>>70310390
So what? She's doing what she wants to do to great success, regardless of her not buying into the potential for further success. Bae has been open about her love for Stars since the beginning and she's not changing at this point. People that don't like that don't have to watch. This is like saying Suisei's content isn't valid when she also will do song collabs with Holostars.

>> No.70311074

>>70310580
The homos leeching on covers resources including 3d studio time and cover inserting the homos into everything hololive related makes me want everyone supporting the homos to fail. 2022 is also a reminder that holoen was almost overtaken by homobeggars. I'm not going to be caught unaware again

>> No.70312466

>>70308480
Two separate pre-recorded parts? Okay, name another example please?

>> No.70312537

>>70311074
unicucks being delusional as always

>> No.70312579

>>70309878
Anon unclench your jaw and stop seething, I hope you don’t kill yourself when I tell you this, but HoloStars are a part of Hololive Production, commonly referred to as “Hololive”. Just because you don’t like it doesnt mean it’s not true.

>> No.70312813

>>70312579
An actual homobeggar in a catalog thread. Interesting. Seems increasingly rare nowadays. Is bae still keeping your hope up for homo unity in holoen?

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>>70295775
sums up one gif without hitting a post-nut clarity

>> No.70314230

>>70305196
>you disliked something before therefore you cannot dislike it now
are you retarded?

>> No.70314301

>>70312579
Holy cope, don't make me post the organization chart homobeggar, lmao.

>> No.70314346

>>70298820
Everything Bae does is underwhelming.

>> No.70315170

I never understood the "homocollaber" thing.
Do you guys think that these girls exist in some alternate reality where there are no males except (you)?
You must realize that they interact with the opposite sex daily in their lives right?
I would also guess that most of these girls are in a relationship irl, be that a boyfirend or even a husband.
Some of them even have kids, and they will never fuck you.
The Vesper and Magni collabs with the girls were some of the funniest content Kronii, Calli or Bae have ever been a part of.
Why are you like this.

>> No.70315552

>>70315170
it's been said a million times already that most people don't care about their relationships with guys, they just don't want to see it on stream. most people are not unicorns, they just view girls-only content as its own genre and don't want that genre to change. its no different than liking genres of music, games, movies, etc. and wanting them to stay true to their genre. and since hololive has built its success on the girls-only content and that's what the majority of people are there to watch, it's completely reasonable to want them to stay within that genre.

>> No.70315621

>>70315170
Why do you want to see the girl you like flirt with other dudes?

>> No.70316050

>>70315170
Is not having homos pop up on my screen when I'm watching a cute girl too much to ask?

>> No.70316079

I liked the duet with towa, but that was more due to towa and the song. everything else ranged from bad to just ok.

>> No.70316344

Just like any other vtuber set of songs, they're yet another collection of over-produced weeb slop that is 100% carried by the parasocial anime avatar behind them.

But what the fuck do I know, I only listen to phonk and mongolian throat singer Linkin Park covers these days.

>> No.70316434

meanwhile…
>homo hater knows which male collabs with which girls
>how much and how long, who are the most homo collabing girls, etc
>stalks all their info to know about their off-screen relations and details and uses it as another reason why they’ll never watch
>still come to said threads to tell the crowd how much he hates the content and apparently was chained to the chair to watch the homos
>most don’t even watch their oshi’s content to know what happened that week but can tell anyone what the girls they hate did

>> No.70316494

>>70316434
We dont need you to tell us unicucks are mentally ill. They likely come from a broken home to begin with to become like they are

>> No.70316889

>>70315621
I guess I will never understand this since I've never "liked" a vtuber in some sort of a romantic or coomer manner.
I do like a lot of content creators for entertainment though, be it males or females, vtubers or fleshtubers.
Besides, none of the intersex collabs I've seen had any romantic or sexual tension whatsoever, let alone blatant flirting.
The mere presence of a male on screen seems to send some anons on the brink of suicide or some ape like rage, which makes 0 sense.

>> No.70317312

>>70316889
When you like a girl even nonromantically, why would you want to watch her flirt with other guys?

>> No.70317387

>>70316889
I guess you haven't seen the any vesperonii collabs then. When a bunch of lonely men watch a girl for hours every week or even day catching some feelings is not that out of the ordinary. Why would you then want to see some faggy male vtuber come and watch them have fun with your oshi. I personally just enjoy the CGDCT atmosphere much more than a mixed one

>> No.70317582

>>70317312
nigga nobody is flirting when theyre promoting a fucking product or singing a song on stage
youre mentally challenged

>> No.70317665

>>70317582
Funny how you're avoiding the question because you know there's no answer that doesn't make you look like a literal cuckold.

>> No.70318255

>>70316050
You have chuuba for that already, yet you faggots keep seething about Bae. A

>> No.70318301

>>70315552
>most people don't care about their relationships with guys, they just don't want to see it on stream
That's the thing though: that's a shit take. I can't even excuse it as bad taste because the other replies make it abundantly clear that these people are lying to themselves and are obsessed.

>> No.70318355

>>70306218
Putting on a farce is a key component of vtubing

>> No.70318528

>>70316889
Incels, mate.

>> No.70318723

>>70317665
Nta but it is simply not flirting. Every single time she collabs with the Stars you faggots go "reee she is getting spitroasted, she is getting creampied reee they are also going to violate my oshi if I don't cry like a retard aaaaa" when it's just a collab or a tame choreo like yesterday's. Keep your retarded cuckold fantasies to yourself

>> No.70318770

>>70318255
Homos are a cancer on hololive, so everyone supporting them deserves hate

>> No.70318786

>>70301023
To this day i still don't see why people like play dice. It's the most cringe song i've heard from her.
Psycho, however, is fucking amazing.

>> No.70318870

It was ok, which keep in mind is not Holofest so it didn't need to be. With the new outfits and this Holo is just making the appetizers for their big event.

>> No.70318967

>>70318770
they were here before covid pointed your mentally ill ass into our hobby
considering going back anyday

>> No.70318994

>>70318770
Antis are ridiculous people, you have nothing to throw against Bae so you keep making up ridiculous excuses.

>> No.70319112

>>70318994
Please understand, jobless unemployed unicucks have twitter accounts they tweet from all day about Holostars while they live off their mom who barely makes ends meet

>> No.70319238

>>70318301
thinking /vt/ anons represent most viewers... good one. just look at fauna as a perfect example, everyone knew about her pl relationship but no one cares because she keeps it personal. not even her goslings care and they're some of the most downbad in EN

>> No.70319525

>>70318770
Yagoo supports them lol

>> No.70319701

>>70319525
they dont care that yagoo was their original branch manager while he was CEO, theyre 2020 tourists who dont watch streams

>> No.70319814

It always surprises me to see legitimate homobeggars on /vt/. Don't you know your opinions are valued and welcome on xitter and plebbit? Why are you arguing with a unicorn board and seething about differing opinions when you could just go back? On a similar note, why don't you just watch niji instead of holo? They're literally targeting you as an audience, why are you being retarded?

>> No.70322314

>>70295775
It was great

>> No.70323121

>>70301899
>RRR
christ, vtubers really should hire some better composers. those anime-opening-like songs are shit, they sound exactly the same from each other.
>818
I liked it.
>Colour
same as RRR but an anime-ending-like song instead.
>Ohayo-EST
there's something off about this song, I can't quite put my finger on it but it doesn't sound quite right? maybe the vocals' tempo don't quite mesh with the beats? something similar bothers me in Hinotori too.
>EIEN
Good!

>> No.70325201

Good morning sirs

>> No.70325577

>>70319814
I’m not a homobeggar, I don’t beg my oshi to collab with ANYONE. Nobody fucking does. She can collab with literally anyone she wants to, and she does so confidently. I watch her as entertainment, and I support her career and enjoy hearing about her life and her trials and tribulations. I don’t view every male interaction as having sex. I know the ones who post this bait are the weird ass dudes in school that never took no for an answer and got mad when girls “friendzoned” them. You guys were losers then and you’re losers now. Keep seething about this imaginary cucking you claim is happening. Me and my friends are gonna dance and sing to Bae’s music and keep on enjoying our lives and having fun!

>> No.70325638

>>70323121
>RRR = anime-opening-like song = shit
>Colour = anime-ending-like-song = shit

lmao what the fuck are you talking about? You're a fucking chuuba fan, and you're gonna act like anime music and J-Pop aren't basically one and the same at this point? Okay retard.

>> No.70325956

I cant believe that antis deny Bae because she’s *checks notes* collaborated with the male talents of her company. She streams consistently and keeps in contact with her fans. Not to shit on any other talent bc I love all of the EN girls, but why are they considered “idols” and not Bae? Ghosting fans, lovebombing before holidays to make max money, ignoring memberships until they legally have to provide some form of content to their paying subscribers. But because they “don’t talk to” their male coworkers they’re so uwu pure seiso??? Gura is literally married irl and has streamed w men in her pl do some fucking research, I’m tired of her being the end-all of idol vtubers. She lucked out w her design, admit it.

>> No.70326619

>>70325956
Unicorns will be massive faggots about other penis havers getting in the way of their stupid parasocial autistic lust. Actually had a Unicorn as a friend in the past, and he was a massive retard about Kronii collabing with Vesper all over the "Hololive girls shouldn't interact with boys because it ruins the vibe!!!" We stopped being friends because even my stupid ass can only put up with unicorns malding like retards for so long.

Didn't know Gura was married irl, but that's cool. Sucks she has to put up with being the face of chubbas as a whole and gets a bunch of unfair expectations placed on her as a result. No wonder she gets so burnt out so often.

>> No.70326847

homoparagraph

>> No.70327103

>>70309825
why cant artists just say mini album why use the term EP? thats so random and unintuitive

>> No.70327215

>>70325956
>Gura is literally married irl
She's not, I don't even need to do any research to know if that's true. If she were married it would be common knowledge and her husbands face would be blasted all over this board 24/7 non-stop. There's certain things that would be so big the mods wouldn't be able to stop people from shitposting about it.

>> No.70327579

>>70295775
Above average. Enough of it clicks to be enjoyable experience. Her voice generally matches the type of music she puts out and I see some improvement compared to something like Play Dice. There aren't too many in EN that are pursuing the idol aspect of the job as intensely as she is, so I'm just enjoying her journey,certain that she's going to continue improving. All artists show some growth over the years, and I'm excited at the prospect of her vocals with a more mature edge to it.

>> No.70330279

>>70295775
No.

>> No.70332967

>>70325577
>caring about the wellbeing of an entertainer as if you're their boyfriend
ok parasocial nerd

>> No.70333166

>>70325956
>le checks le heckin notes
back to twitter, xister

>> No.70333488

>>70295775
Not special, not bad. Just ok. She picked guests that she couldn’t keep up with vocally.

>> No.70333670

>>70295775
yes it was okay, stop being a vulnerable fag

>> No.70333836

>>70332967
Local anon has never been a fan of anyone. Sad!
Also I’m a girl

>> No.70333998

>>70315621
Do people really ONLY watch vtubers for romantic reasons? That's crazy to me. It's a big medium out there with a bunch of different types of content. Just like how I don't watch Vinny, Joel, Northerlion, Oneyplays or Jerma because I want to fuck them, I'm not watching Bijou, Kronii, Bettel, Ruze, or Ame because I want to fuck them.

>> No.70334139

>>70333998
>>70317312

>> No.70334200

>>70302513
Projecting your problems onto others doesn't make it go away anon..

I hope you won't atleast die alone in the streets, forgotten by peers.

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>>70295775
I skipped because of the males.

>> No.70334364

>>70334139
I've watched a ton of mixed gender collabs and the only time I've seen one that could be considered flirty in Holopro was Axel with that tarot reading girl. Contrary to popular belief, a man talking to a woman is not inherently romantic/sexual.

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>>70295775
always relevant

>> No.70334502

>>70334364
kek, whatever you say

>> No.70335301

Everyone's talking about male relationships and flirting and shit, but ignoring the elephant in the room: male vtubers are hated because they're creeps, sex pests and losers. You can't blame that on unicorns. Male vtubers are just weirdos who can't make it as fleshtubers and so it should be no surprise that most people don't like them shitting up the girls streams.

>> No.70335390

>>70335301
A faulty generalization is an informal fallacy wherein a conclusion is drawn about all or many instances of a phenomenon on the basis of one or a few instances of that phenomenon.

>> No.70335615

>>70335390
that's a lotta words to say you can't refute it

>> No.70335658

I don't watch bae but it was pretty based. Bae's music is pretty much the only thing I like about her.

>> No.70335873

>>70335301
What if I told you
>Female vtubers are all menheras
Unironically, it would be better for unicorns to find a 3D girl because women who are not terminally online are actually more mentally stable

>> No.70335973

>>70334364
Mixed gender collabs are generally pretty bad because a lot of people who get into vtubing just want to listen to girls being cute and talking about games and other interests that they can relate to. Most girls are normies, so vtubing handily fills that demand. There's many other channels I'd watch if I was in the mood to hear a dude talk. That said, it's also pretty obvious unicorns are just looking for every opportunity to shit on Bae. Whether by Cover's own policy or by the talents' own choice, the line there's a firm line between hololive and holostars that hasn't been crossed.

>> No.70336469

>>70334502
i think this board is more your speed >>>/r9k/

>> No.70336508

>>70333836
ywnbaw
time to rope

>> No.70336910

Why do homobeggars act like anyone who doesn't enjoy homocollabs are unicorns? The type of men who become vtubers simply aren't interesting or entertaining, they just bring down the value of whatever stream they participate in. Quit trying to shoehorn your uninteresting normie-tier fleshtuber rejects into the hobby, fucking beggars.

>> No.70337024

>>70335301
Maybe 1/10 of the ones people designate as creeps actually are, at least /here/. Saying hi to someone does not make them a sex pest. I'd argue there's a higher percentage of male flesh creators that are sex pests than male vtubers.
>>70335973
I guess I'm an anomaly then. It was never "oh shit, real life anime waifu!" for me, but rather "hey, funny anime people!". I watch vtubers for the same reason I watch sitcoms or any other content creator; entertainment.

>> No.70337035

>>70336910
Existence of unicorns does not help your case.
>>70315621
>>70317312

>> No.70337253

>>70336910
except nobody is begging anyone but you fuckers just kept on shitting on Bae for her own choice anyway? unicorns aren't antis they said pfft

>> No.70337667

>>70337253
>thread asking for opinion on bae's stream
>some people didn't like it because x reason
>x reason is le so stupid! touch le grass chud! you MUST like her or you're a unicorn!
Fragile. I simply don't like the homos and no amount of your shilling for them will change that. If you're afraid of differing opinions go back to your hugbox subplebbit. The OP literally asked for opinions, that's the point of the thread you literal manchild.

>> No.70338464

>muh males
I defer to Sora's comments on this topic.

https://youtu.be/tvIqdbPhq64?si=25ycnEVXxaj_XE1a
>Sometimes I'm entrusted to be a host(for events), so when that time comes
>"I don't know because I'm the opposite sex"
>I don't want to say that
Not collabing with them often or ever, sure. But pretending they don't exist and not even knowing what they are doing lately, when you're in the same company and in the same industry? Thats just silly.
Even from a purely content creation perspective, ideas for streams and events can come from anywhere, including the homos' streams/events.

>> No.70338863

>>70337667
> Asked opinion on her album
> "No, I hate the homos"
you are'nt slick on using her on your PC campaign. I don't like the homos but disregarding anything else Bae does like placing a stamp on a livestock is vile which you regularly do especially in /#/s.
> Fragile
Ironic when your kind is always the one crying and whining in this threads (Am also betting no actual brat makes this bait threads and it's you unicorn fighters again). kill yourself retard

>> No.70339190

>>70338863
> not sure if ESL or just seething too hard to wite coherently

>> No.70340171

>>70333836
post tits roastie

>> No.70340218

>>70315621
I don't, but I'm pretty sure I've never seen Bae flirting with any dudes on stream. Closest thing was her gushing over Majima, a fictional character.
I don't give a fuck about the girls collabing with guys as long as they have the sense to keep it professional, which the Hololive girls are pretty good about. None of them act like Mea does with Roberu, for example, and even that is a "relationship" played for laughs.

>> No.70341419

>>70305110
>Bae does not do NTR
fucking RUMAO

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70341496

>>70339190
> not sure if ESL or just seething too hard to wite coherently

>> No.70341594

>>70335973
>Whether by Cover's own policy or by the talents' own choice, the line there's a firm line between hololive and holostars that hasn't been crossed.
Yagoo wants to have a mixed HoloPro gen but can't find a way to make that happen without hurting revenue. The current Hololive business model is mostly based on CGDCT but management is testing the waters. Any big changes will likely be tried in the EN branch and the main question will be what happens at the next EN concert. Will management completely exclude Tempus from the EN concert after they get their 3D models? Would they be okay with having a different concert venue for the Holostars EN concert?

>> No.70341645

>>70334364
holy cope
does bae at least let you use the chair or are you relegated to the floor?

>> No.70341710

>>70338464
Sora farming multiple sources for content ideas without discretion is certainly one method of doing things that I can understand, but I would not go so far as to claim that it's necessary.
I do have an issue with the bit about hosting events that include homos. Sora may be fine with that or whatever. But I do not want my oshis to be the ones hosting such events or even participating in them at all.

>> No.70341775

>>70334364
cuck

>> No.70341803

>>70338863
>literally whining and homobegging itt
>it's le unicorns who are whining! kill yourself for not liking homos, retard!
You have literally 0 self awareness, huh? You're really this upset that I don't share your faggot taste in vtubers? Go back to your hugbox.

>> No.70341974

>>70338863
don't insult livestock by comparing them to bae

>> No.70342093

Gura is an idol
Bae is not an idol
Simple as

>> No.70342157

>>70342093
Gura is a false idol
Bae is a real idol

>> No.70342202

Bae's singing is terrible and her dancing is just mediocre. Baefags always rave about her dancing; it's extremely overrated. Besides, who actually gives a fuck how she dances if her singing is so garbage? She should give up trying to be the EN suisei or whatever and go back to kusoges and grind out more collabs, maybe she can siphon a little more viewership from JP. But this delusional and misplaced effort into music is only detrimental. I say this for her own sake.

>> No.70342301

>>70341803
post below you immediately proved my point. I couldn't care less about your invisible wars bullshit but you fucks cannot stop on shitting on bae anyway and that's facts. you are just as annoying assholes as the homobeggar sisters you loathe
> 0 self awareness
ironic as fuck

>> No.70342333

>>70342093
based and idol pilled

>> No.70342361

>>70323121
I actually feel like Bae is better off doing cutesy poppy stuff, you can hear the tryhard when she does songs like EIEN and it turns me off a bit

>> No.70342442

>>70341419
>>70341645
>>70341775
>>70341974
Here we have an almost picturesque example of a unicorn cuck

>> No.70342455

>>70342202
have you ever stopped to realize she's just having fun doing it? no? of course not you are as miserable as your peers

>> No.70342456

>>70342093
>gura
>doesnt appear
>real idol

sure motherfucker

>> No.70342471

>>70342301
anon, you have to understand not everyone is into the NTR fetish like you

>> No.70342519

>>70342093
> Ghosts you after Valentines Day
Now that's the true idol cuckening experience

>> No.70342559

>>70342471
reminder that unicorncucks will all end up like that mikeneko cuck bawling his eyes out in a discord interview
no exceptions

>> No.70342637

>>70342559
>literally no argument
uh oh, the brats having a melty

>> No.70342845

>>70342471
> The concept of Unicorns are perpetually Antis to those who are not unicorn friendly
> further proves my point
goodbye retard enjoy your day hopefully next time don't be an asshole

>> No.70342848

>>70342637
>no argument
>biggest unicornfag gfe revealed to be an actual NTR whore

Tick tock lil nigger, who's your oshi

>> No.70343101

>bae is an idol
This statement will trigger unicorns

>> No.70343268

>>70342157
Gura invited cute girls
Bae invited homos
Next

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70343358

>>70295775
I really liked Play Dice. I've been pretty medium on everything else I've heard of her since. Love the rat to pieces though. She's a good girl. The message she got from A. Yuuki was cool as well.

>> No.70343404

>>70342845
>doesn't know how to greentext
You don't belong, twittertranny

>> No.70343658

>>70342455
She won't be having fun when she's a 2view. She needs to give up on copying suisei, you either have the talent she does or don't, and bae is talentless. She's staying afloat for now, but she's going down the same road sana did to early graduation. Contrary to popular belief she can't just fake it til she makes it and she needs to realize she has no chance in music, and should stop wasting her time with it.

>> No.70343713

>>70343658
You don't even watch her if you think she's copying suisei

>> No.70343720

>>70295775
Jesse what the fuck are you saying?

>> No.70344012

>>70343713
She's trying desperately and failing. Music is a talent.

>> No.70344150

>>70342471
>Madonna is the biggest Female Idol in the world
>incredible high body count
Unikeks need to stop using that word the wrong way

>> No.70344201

>>70343658
I like how any measure of success lower than the most popular chuuba by music standards is considered failure. Comparing her to Sana is laughable. Bae is the streaming monster of EN along with Kiara while Sana kneecapped herself hard by taking long breaks while Council was barely off the floor. She loves singing and dancing, and her fans love her.

Simple as

>> No.70344280

>>70344150
who is that? what idol group does she belong to?

>> No.70344288

>>70342202
>>70343658
This reeks of jealous 2-view seethe to me

>> No.70344616

>>70344201
>streaming monster
>still under 1m subs
Meanwhile gura literally took a year off and still has 4+m subs. Long breaks have nothing to do with it.

>> No.70344801

The presence of men other than me(I am all vtuber chatters ever to exist at once) reduces the quality of a thing
The quality of any thing
This opinion is, by virtue of this thread, clearly not unique to me
Therefore, it is a valid option to hold
So my opinion is the following; it was not okay. The ratio of vaginas to cocks was poor. The necessary basis for something to be okay is to have 100% vagina. Baes concert did not have 100% vagina. It is Baes responsibility to prevent me from be at risk of witnessing non-vaginas. She failed me. I award her 0 golden stars.

>> No.70344956

>>70318786
Funny, because I feel the exact opposite. Play Dice is good, Psycho is extraordinarily cringe. She should give up on making edgy songs, they don't suit her at all.

>> No.70345044

>>70344801
good step-by-step breakdown. thanks for the analysis anon

>> No.70345063

>>70344616
Subs have nothing to do with it. Sana couldn't hack having a fulltime streaming job alongside her other actual job. Bae wants to work hard for her fans so she has no incentive to graduate like your comment implied.

>> No.70345150

>>70344801
Fucking based

>> No.70345252

>>70344801
wtf I hate homocollabs now

>> No.70345430

>>70344801
>bae's responsibility
sounds like you deliberately watched content to get mad

>> No.70345691

>>70345430
Bae's responsibility as a member of Holo EN is to not to collab with males. Obviously that isn't going too well.

>> No.70346499

>>70345691
nigga you dont write any rules or regulations of her job kill yourself

>> No.70346846

>>70344801
True unicorns like me just ignore and don't spread hate.

>> No.70347004

>>70346499
It's her inherent responsibility. Like how a parent is inherently responsible for the wellbeing of their kids, regardless of whether or not someone has written rules or regulations regarding those parents and their kids. If you need someone to tell you what you should and shouldn't do you are a soulless NPC subhuman and you belong in a wagecage as a subservient slave to true humans who are capable of free thought. As a member of hololive she has inherent responsibilities. Ones that she fails at miserably.

>> No.70347091

>>70347004
HoloJP exists and they set the standard for what others should follow. Sorry

>> No.70347250

>>70347091
They did. That's why EN never streams.

>> No.70347281

>>70295775
Yeah, fantastic even

>> No.70347301

>>70347004
see >>70346499

>> No.70347330

>>70347004
I believe Hololive is an idol company. Your inherent responsibilities should be doing idol stuff and streaming a lot and putting in hard work. Bae succeeds at that spectacularly

>> No.70347597

>>70343658
>Bae's singing is terrible
There is nothing worse than a lying nigger
https://youtu.be/TQSikoeVXoE?t=3393

>> No.70348014

>>70347597
You're just proving their point kek

>> No.70348057

>>70348014
You parents never taught you how to be genuine and that's fucking sad

>> No.70348059

>>70341594
>>70341594
Not happening with Jap in charge of EN. If anything, it seems like they’re prepping the jp side with that due to things like regloss or holizontal (regardless of its failure). The time for a mixed gender gen in EN was 2020-2021. That ship has sailed.

>> No.70348313

>>70347004
this kind of delusion is what giving the homosisters the ammo they need for their political agenda

>> No.70348558

>>70348057
Yours never taught you to have standards

>> No.70348571

>>70347330
Hololive is a virtual idol company. Idols are about fostering romantic parasocial relationships. Virtual idols are about doing that without ever including males. What Bae excels at is irrelevant to her actual responsibilities

>> No.70348668

> "fucking homobeggars not giving the talents their freedom on collab choices"
> Talent decides to collab with males regardless
> "Wait, fuck you you're shit can't do that!!11!!"

>> No.70348677

>>70347330
Doesn't matter, she collabs with homos. She's an idol in name only.

>> No.70348747

>>70348571
>>70348677

>>70334413

>> No.70348770

>>70348668
They are not so different after all huh
>>70348677
Unfortunately (for you)
That isn't relevant to idol culture

>> No.70348873

>>70348668
>doing something is significant while not doing something is insignificant
holy shit no way

>> No.70348979

>>70348747
Your graph is literally wrong in several places and in one of the threads it was posted in months ago it was literally corrected, yes you still use the pre-correction version.
Stop self-fellating your lack of knowledge

>> No.70348980

>>70348873
> talent freedom until it doesn't suit my taste
you fucking disgust me mentally ill retard. short man vibes

>> No.70349032

>>70348979
> graph

>> No.70349071

DEFINITIVE EN IDOL LIST:
Gura
Fauna
IRyS
The rest can be thrown in the gutter and would have no impact on EN's success.

>> No.70349187

>>70349071
Mori is the only true idol of EN

>> No.70349271

>>70349187
Mori is a wigger who will never be Japanese, let alone an idol.

>> No.70349340

>>70349271
The only EN who has a sololive and the most music numbers
You can shit and say all the drama the wigger has done but anything you say will be irrelevant

>> No.70350087

>>70347597
>this slop is what's considered "good" by baefags
this is embarrassing

>> No.70350269

>>70350087
a disingenuous faggot such as yourself wouldn't know objectivity if it raped you in the ass

>> No.70350403

>>70350269
kek

>> No.70350545

>>70350269
why the seethe anon? try coping a little too, gotta balance out all that seethe.

>> No.70350566

>>70350545
nigger shut up nobody asked

>> No.70350620

>>70350545
I don't know sister, you sound pretty mad that you aren't Hololive material

>> No.70350677

>>70350566
>replies within 30 seconds
you really are seething huh? cry more, it's funny

>> No.70350727

>>70350677
Why are you IP changing so frequently? do you like ban evading after shitposting from your hut all day? I guess that's all your life is huh? sad

>> No.70350835

>>70350677
am not even the same guy you are just annoying

>> No.70350871

>>70350727
kek, you bet that monkey samefags a LOT to make the small dog look big

>> No.70350957

>>70350835
samefag cope

>> No.70351074

>>70350727
if it makes twittertrannies like you seethe this much maybe the SEAfag shitposting is alright... you're literally in tears aren't you?

>> No.70351356

>>70350957
post skin color now

>> No.70351439

>>70351074
It's obvious you get off on attention, creepy fatherless schizo, it's the only think keeping you from tying the noose

>> No.70351737

There are people here who aren't even aware of the fact that singing and "growth" as a person are aspects of an idol that came AFTER the creation of an idol.
The original, original Japanese canonical idol is defined by being a woman who is 'the perfect woman', a 'role model'
And in Japan, to be a role model as a woman, is to be the woman who appeals to men most
The singing, the growth, the journey? All of it was made up along the way to add emotional checkpoints and climactic moments to instill a greater sense of emotional investment in the idol from their male patrons.
None of you know what idols are. And the reason you don't, is that you cannot accurately differentiate between a regular musician/dancer who is dedicated to the work and fans and develops their talents over time, and an idol. Those are two vastly different things, to a degree where they are not even close to similar. Can you name the difference?
No.
You cannot.
And that is why you fail to know the way of this world.

>> No.70351943

>>70351439
atleast I don't go into a retarded rage and massreply like a schizofaggot every time someone calls my oshi's singing garbage. you're as fragile as you are gay and retarded, which is extremely. keep seething.

>> No.70352065

>>70351943
I don't think a samefagging ban evading shitposter has any moral grounds or human rights or opinions to stand on regarding anything

>> No.70352140

>>70351943
>He doesn't deny it
Good lord, thank god I had loving parents.

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>>70350566
>>70350835

>> No.70352438

>>70352065
>muh moral grounds
are you illiterate? there's no moral debate going on here. I said bae's singing is garbage (it is) and you have been seething about it nonstop for 30 minutes. you're literally becoming delusional.
>or opinions to stand on regarding anything
? what the fuck are you even trying to say? reread your own braindead sentence. why do you retarded ESLs come to english-speaking boards anyways? it only makes you look as retarded as you actually are. or maybe you're still seething to the point that you can't even form coherent sentences?

>> No.70352564

>>70352438
cums on you*

>> No.70352610

>>70352438
Except you were being blatantly disingenuous calling her singing garbage in a linked performance where it was objectively pretty fucking good. If I ask you to point out the flaws you won't be able to because as I said, you are disingenuous, fake and full of shit. You stand for nothing, you seek attention from anons and that's all your entire life is

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>>70352438
It's time to move on, buddy. You've made enough of a fool of yourself for one day.

>> No.70352993

>>70342202
I swear I have seen you seething about Bae in like 5 catalog threads now
There is no one else on this board besides you who calls her fans Baefags and you always have the same writing style
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=baefags
How did a little rat mindbreak you so fucking hard that you piss and shit yourself over her 24/7? I'm convinced that this is some jealous 2 view whore at this point. Keep trying for the auditions, maybe one day you will make it (you won't)

>> No.70353056

>>70349271
She's the only EN who got signed on by an actual music label worth mentioning kek

>> No.70353202

>>70345691
>some nigger thinks they know what HoloEN's brand is supposed to be
>reminder that COVER itself has explicitly and publicly stated that they give no shits what relationships their talents pursue in direct contradiction to unicornfag bullshit

nah lil nigga

>> No.70353314

>>70352610
>>70352954
>>70352993
>massreply schizo sperging again
>muh subjective opinion is le objective and if you disagree you're being le disingenuous!
proving my point yet again, retard. your seethe is still palpable even after a fucking hour, reflect on that a little. all it took was calling bae's singing garbage and your whole day is ruined. literal manchild. keep seething though, this is all very telling of what kind of braindead subhumans enjoy bae's 'content', if you can even call it that.

>> No.70353422

>>70352993
While I admittedly also often seethe about Bae because any Bae thread is bound to eventually end up making claims that irritate me, you do definitely have a point with that particular schizo.
If you look more carefully, you'd have noticed another one who has a common pattern but is harder to discern- though don't let that lead you into a paranoid inquisition, I'm sure you'll notice the second schizos pattern eventually naturally. That said, there are absolutely a LOT of non-schizos here who have aired grievances with Bae. Some are more reasonable than others. What you take from that is up to you. Though I suppose it doesn't really matter at all since the one person who could benefit from any feedback present here, isn't here, so...

>> No.70353427

>>70353314
Keep trying for the auditions roastie! I'll root for you even if it's impossible

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>>70353314
No it's just a bunch of people calling you out, buddy. Sorry to tell you but your statements are unpopular.

>> No.70353716

>>70353591
I literally know who you are, pal. Don't get involved I'm toasting this baefag (I don't even hate bae she's just a bad singer). Go talk to a chatbot or something.

>> No.70353736

>>70353314
Does a ban evading, router resetting, attention seeking schizo have any right to call others subhuman?

>> No.70353777

>>70353422
>Some are more reasonable than others
literally what is there besides "she has male coworkers"? You people are fucking insane, take a step back and look at yourselves

>> No.70353803

>>70353422
I'm sure there are some reasonable critiques in the thread but I would like you to point me to them
>>70353314
>>70353716
>Every post is a new IP
Wow

>> No.70353820

>>70353736
>>70352438
>muh moral grounds
so true, sister

>> No.70353861

>>70353716
ok have fun then. Good luck with your bitching.

>> No.70353875

>>70353716
NTA but are you that faggy irystokek who loses his shit whenever someone calls Bae a good singer or performer? you sound just like him

>> No.70353877

Bae singing keep getting worse and worse
How is this even possible??

>> No.70354200

>>70353877
Her throat is getting loose... my bad.

>> No.70354569

>>70353777
Anon, do you reject the capacity for gender to be a relevant basis for making judgements in absolutely all cases? Do you deny that the qualities and characteristics of something can be influenced by the presence, or lack thereof, of one gender or another?
This is a serious question and I am asking you candidly, not for the purposes of eliciting a Twitter tier "gender doesn't matter" type response.

>> No.70354588

The only part I didn't like was the painful guitar pantomime, I kept picturing her air guitaring in a mocap suit

>> No.70354670

>>70353803
There were some points made on the concerns over friction in various facets. While they weren't explored as much as they maybe should have been, I do think there is a kernel of truth in that argument.

>> No.70354715

>>70354569
If you're a self-hating male I guess that makes you the real tranny, how ironic.

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>>70354569
oh boy here we go

>> No.70354832

>>70354670
I can see where you are going with this and the points you are talking about but... I don't see any friction? the other girls adore Bae and she doesn't have any bad blood with anyone in the branch.

>> No.70354891

>>70354569
Unicorns harasses the girls
Homobeggars harasses the girls
there you go thats the truth

>> No.70355311

>>70354891
>shit take
>ESL
every time

>> No.70355376

>>70300339
Watch stream catalog fag.

>> No.70355435

>>70295775
I'm going to fuck the rat

>> No.70355502

>>70295775
Yes, Bae, your concert and album were okay. But please don’t come to 4chan to ask that again.

>> No.70355712

>Bae does shit song
>"I-It's okay! We still love you!"
>Mori does shit song
>"BRAPLORD MAKES ANOTHER WHOOPSIE LOOOOOL DEADBRAPS IN SHAMBLES LOOOOL"
>Kiara does shit song
>*crickets*

>> No.70356893

>>70355712
You have Kiara and Bae mixed up here
Admittedly, I don't watch idols for the music part(with a few notable exceptions, the musical performances of idols are just one means of fostering parasocial investment, but it doesn't work on me while other things work far better on me so I tailor my experience according to my personal tastes), so *crickets* is my go-to response for MOST stuff unless it becomes something beyond the scope of just music ala Marine and Ui ending up being memified to the stratosphere
But if it came down to it with a gun to my head, I'm sure as shit going to raise an eye more often at Kiara's content over Bae's.
Mori is less of a musical producer and more of a running joke in the EN vtubing community so I will never, ever take her seriously.

>> No.70356965

>>70354715
Thank you for proving that you are incapable of actually having a cordial discussion and just want to shitpost, brat. This is exactly why so many people behave the way they do towards you, and by proxy, Bae.

>> No.70356971

The singing wasn't great, but I enjoyed the dancing and the show in general. I just had it done while doing a programming project which is basically how I watch every holo concert.

>> No.70357208

>>70356965
>males bad hurr durr
You can write however many essays you want but this is all you're saying, and it's retarded (as are you)

>> No.70357781
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>> No.70358059

>>70357208
>males good hurr durr
Your stance is of equal simplicity, retard

>> No.70358148

>>70295775
i was good until the homos appeared, and then it was good again after they left

>> No.70359962

>>70357208
self-awareness isn't your strong suit

>> No.70360060

>>70305924
That's nonsense and you know it. Streaming for women is overwhelmingly visual, and most women don't look as nice as the common anime girl.

>> No.70362805

>>70295775
?

>> No.70362968

>>70353056
That doesn't make her an idol. plenty of whores are signed by music labels. Mori has tarnished her reputation too much to be ever considered an idol

>> No.70363115

I don't watch Bae but her song on the Holo Honeyworks album is a 10/10.

>> No.70363168

>>70357208
>males bad
Males don't belong in vtubing. Simple as.

>> No.70363838

she oversells her "musical" talent. Her singing is absolutely passable mid, but I appreciate her forwardness, confidence and taking the first step to initiate a musical collab. But still, it does make me tad cringe.
Yeah sure she's getting there to be a music aligned holo, and doing reps but the oversell is making her journey worse.

However, I think she is much more suited in creative direction role (writer/producer). From her vegemite content, game shows and her recent live, its clear she is more talented at screenwriting and directing, I'm guessing she worked hard on her singing because she thought nobody would want to get involved with her grand idea (lore drop, camera work, backstage scenes) which took too much effort. Her singing, dancing, etc was not the goal, it was merely her means to an end, to realize her ideal vision of Hololive, that's what I'm seeing her from debut until today. Even without hololive, I think she has a chance to be a TV producer.
I'm not a bae super fan, but I really appreciate her Dreamcatcher live and enjoyed it.

>> No.70363894

>>70362968
> d-doesnt count

ah, the cries of the mediocre

>> No.70365820

>>70295775
Honestly genuinely good.

>> No.70366697

>>70295775
Mating press.

>> No.70367351

>>70363838
Anon improving one's skill is part of the idol journey. She doesn't claim to be a terrific singer and her selling point is her dancing but she's always trying to get better (and has gotten better) and she genuinely loves being an idol which is why she releases all the music she does

>> No.70371285

>>70295775
was fun

>> No.70371427

>>70295775
amazing

>> No.70373078 [SPOILER] 
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>>70325638
>you're a fucking chuuba fan
oh, am I...?

>> No.70373151

>>70367351
Maybe she should stop sucking cocks.

>> No.70375951

>>70373151
kek

>> No.70377253

hows zodiac doing bros? i assume its already topping the charts worldwide

>> No.70378649

>>70377253
Anon...I've got bad news for you

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