How do we stop her?

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Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:35:12 2021 No.702506 [Reply] [Original]

How do we stop her?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:36:29 2021 No.702554 >>702506 Pekora stops her every week from being the most viewed and Gura can't even beat Kiara in profits. Stop her in what way?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:37:41 2021 No.702593 >>702554 Being a meme

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:41:12 2021 No.702698 File: 148 KB, 836x413, 16082357940213.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702593 She's not even the biggest meme in Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:41:39 2021 No.702717 >>702698 Damn chum buds...we got too cocky

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:42:02 2021 No.702725 >>702554 gura makes more money than kiara because she has twice as much ad revenue

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:43:19 2021 No.702757 >>702698 >popular weekly series vs literally paid ad I know this is bait but this is just pathetic

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:43:34 2021 No.702766 We need this same picture but with average # of viewers during livestream

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:44:05 2021 No.702787 BIG GOORAH SMASH

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:45:21 2021 No.702821 Why stop a fellow hololive? If anything having a lot of subs is a burden since we get retards who think popular = good picking fights within the same fandom. Just watch what you like and ignore the normalfags that flock to baby shark

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:46:03 2021 No.702841 >>702725 >gura makes more money than kiara Source for this claim? Also how do you know how many of her viewers are using adblock? We know she has the most amount of dead subs that don't watch and don't pay as well so take that into account.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:47:32 2021 No.702871 >>702757 >Karaoke from the most subbed Hololive whos well known for having great singing ability, whose karaoke streams used to get crazy numbers It's still a fair comparison all things considered, you're just coping right now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:49:04 2021 No.702897 >>702871 I'm not even a chumbud, its clearly a terrible comparison. Here Chang, Ill make another terrible comparison. Last week Coco peaked around 25k viewers on her reddit review while Gura peaked around 45k on her collab

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:49:16 2021 No.702907 >no giant watame to sit on you I wish I was Temma.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:50:06 2021 No.702920 >>702897 >collab karoke*

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:52:57 2021 No.702983

>>702897
>its clearly a terrible comparison
How so? Gura's karaoke streams are the ones that get her the most views, and she has a fuckton more subscribers than Coco. And outside special events, Coco's reddit reviews get her the most views. You're just in cope mode, and that's okay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:53:22 2021 No.702998 >>702506 If she doesn´t release original songs or some stuff from herself, she will eventually fade into obscurity just like festival, but without the massive mental breakdowns.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:55:25 2021 No.703034 >>702506 >Giantess Gura IMAGINE

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:55:31 2021 No.703038 so is this just a numberfag cope and counter cope thread between two groups of massive faggots who need to shut the fuck up about numbers and just enjoy the content

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:56:38 2021 No.703060 >>702506 Chink Nene!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:57:14 2021 No.703077 Why the fuck isn't Roboco more popular?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:57:25 2021 No.703083 >>702841 >We know she has the most amount of dead subs There is nothing more pathetic or embarrassing on this board than an embittered, passive aggressive nousagi. It's so sad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:57:31 2021 No.703086 File: 234 KB, 191x820, aaaa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who is this thot?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:58:27 2021 No.703105 >>703086 Anon, that´s not Artia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:58:40 2021 No.703109 >>702506 >Anime girl streamers that get bigger the more subs they have This is my hyper-specific fetish.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:59:39 2021 No.703127 >>702841 Not the guy you’re asking but most of gura’s viewers are children who don’t know about Adblock, and all of her vids get a metric shit ton of views

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 19:59:48 2021 No.703130 File: 2.39 MB, 3350x5542, illust_86914221_20210217_195923.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>703038 It's sad really, one side needs numbers to feel relevant and the other sees numbers as a threat. This is now a gura giant thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:00:01 2021 No.703134 >>703083 Saying facts is not pathetic. You seem to be taking it way too seriously though, sorry it struck a nerve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:00:47 2021 No.703151 >>703127 >source: my schizoid fantasies

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:02:06 2021 No.703181 File: 166 KB, 850x795, __gawr_gura_hololive_and_1_more_drawn_by_alloyrabbit__sample-7bd40929cbd4139310f58af6bfe8ca69.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>703034

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:04:10 2021 No.703229 File: 132 KB, 800x1000, __commission___apex_predator_by_soreavacado_de67da3-pre.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>703130

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:04:37 2021 No.703257 >>703134 Claiming something is a fact does not make it one and I know damage control and an obvious pattern when I see it. I'll be enjoying all the new doujins from the Gura-only convention next week, you can cope in your own way I guess.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:04:53 2021 No.703270

>>703127
Again, we're only speculating how much she makes from ads because we don't know how many of her viewers use adblock. It's all just speculation until you have an actual source. Plus, most kids today would know what adblock is, they're tech savvy unlike boomers. All they fucking do is mess around online and ads surely would annoy them. Adblock isn't some obscure relic. Kiara does objectively have more sc revenue than Gura though, we don't have to speculate on that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:06:19 2021 No.703311 >>703257 Gura having the most dead subs is a fact. If you think otherwise, you're welcome to prove me wrong. You don't have to get emotional over it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:08:16 2021 No.703360 >>703311 The burden of the proof is on you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:08:38 2021 No.703373 >>702506 >The Holostars are literally ants Sad

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:09:38 2021 No.703403 >>702506 imagine being a holostar and Anya... is still twice as big as you

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:10:13 2021 No.703415 Broke: Gura subcount reeeee dead subs reeeee it's a competition reeeee Woke: haha cute shork go brrrr

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:14:53 2021 No.703533 >>703086 Roboco

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:17:22 2021 No.703579 >>703086 A playstation controller

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:17:56 2021 No.703587 Manlets, when will they ever learn

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:19:04 2021 No.703616 File: 2.39 MB, 1000x1000, ame society.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702506 she will fall off the radar HARD once we get the One from a future HoloEN generation

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:21:37 2021 No.703670

>>703311
The larger you grow, the more dead subs you have anon...

In reality, Gura gets more views if you account for hours streamed and FAR more if you account for the absolutely retarded times she streams (when NA is going to bed and EU is long asleep).

None of Pekora's videos have broken 600k in the past couple weeks, while shark has and even reached 800k twice in the same timeframe.

Pekora just streams more.

So, in a way you're right, but don't get it twisted that it's ability or something anon, Gura is a lazy little shit, but if she actually tried, she would mog that rabbit into the dirt in more than just sub count.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:24:16 2021 No.703763
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>>703360
She has 2,240,000 subscribers and can only get these amounts of watchers live on stream. Keep in mind that Minecraft is a game that gets lots of views, and even in special occasions like Valentine's baking she fails to come anywhere near 36,000. A number the rabbit got while playing a random horror game. She constantly fails to get as many watchers as Holos with a million more less subs than her, so her viewing ratio is really terrible.
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/korone
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/pekora
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/marine
^Check these out and scroll down. See how many watchers they're getting (actual live subs that are interacting and paying, not dead subs like what Gura has), also keep in mind how many subscribers they have compared to Gura. Gura objectively has the most amount of subscribers that don't watch or pay her, her ratio is dogshit. Her lows are low and even in her highest highs, she can never reach 77,000 watchers like Coco nowadays or 140,000 like Miko. Now go ahead and keep denying reality instead of supporting your meme shark.

>>703415
You must be 18 years or older to post here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:24:46 2021 No.703774 >>703670 You know, it makes me sad I'm doing this when I know both parties would genuinely find this numberfagging reprehensible if they saw it...

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:27:06 2021 No.703839 >>703763 Now compare their vod views, please oh number master.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:28:02 2021 No.703861 >>702841 You are crazy if you think their CPM payout is greater than what they make on Superchats.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:28:24 2021 No.703867
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>>702983
I have no idea who's schedule Gura's is catering to other than West coast fags. Unless you're a literal neet, you're going to have to cut out half the stream to go to bed. Unless I just happened to find an unlucky stream.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:29:21 2021 No.703890

>>703839
>vodshit
We already described why this means nothing. We have no credible source on how many of Gura's watchers have adblock. And besides, even if we compare vods, Gura only has a few hundred thousand above Peko's. Which is pathetic considering she has about a million more subscribers, her viewer ratio looks even worse when you look at vods.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:34:58 2021 No.704044
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https://youtu.be/HmjJwlgfrCY
>Gura who has more than 2mill subs right now only has 12k watching after streaming for half an hour
And chumbuds will still close their eyes and pretend she doesn't have the most dead subs. Watch and donate to her instead of getting mad at me.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:36:10 2021 No.704071

>>703867
You're completely correct. At some point some months ago Gura decided to fuck most of the Western world and stream at those godforsaken neet hours, and her views dropped from her 40-60k average as a result.

To put it in perspective, she gets 2-3 times the amount of views of any other EN Holo at those times.

I suspect she doesn't have "dead subscribers" so much as subs who literally CANNOT watch her, myself included. She just started streaming within the hour and it's 2:30 fucking AM here. Only reason I'm awake rn is hangover.

Why is she kneecapping herself like this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:37:13 2021 No.704091 >>704044 We can't. We have work in the morning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:38:39 2021 No.704118 >>704044 Some of us have jobs anon. Even though I'm working from home tomorrow, I'm still going to bed around 10 PM. Some of us actually have professional jobs that we have to commute to. >>704071 Kek I don't even sub. I just watch the vod.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:38:52 2021 No.704126 >>704071 Gura already tried streaming at an earlier time and she got 17,000 live viewers. Her numbers actually got worse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:39:16 2021 No.704134 >>702554 Subscribers you blind retard

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:39:48 2021 No.704146

>>703763
>>703890
>>704044
>#gawrgura
>9.6K videos • 1.9K channels
>#ぺこらいぶ
>2.1K videos • 283 channels
>#pekora
>1.2K videos • 509 channels
>#usadapekora
>1.6K videos • 484 channels
Basically you can't judge the amount of coverage they're getting based on their sub or view count alone, the influence is beyond that.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:40:28 2021 No.704159 [SPOILER]

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>>702506
I didn't expect Noel to be this big, seriously, I'm sure she's nice but I don't know what her "thing" is besides being a big titty knight that screams at dark souls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlH0in-TEFI

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:40:55 2021 No.704167 >>704134 Live subscribers or dead subscribers?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:42:15 2021 No.704204 >>704044 desu, I prefer watching zatsudan. But thats just me. And I don't pretend she doesnt have dead subscribers, and I ain't donating either aside from membership only.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:44:06 2021 No.704243 >>702698 We did it Reddit

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:45:07 2021 No.704276 >He cares about sub counts and profitability rates instead of just watching who he likes for enjoyment and not worrying about it Reason #453 that your oshi would reject you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:46:32 2021 No.704322 >>704044 Damn, gurafags really don't care about her

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:55:45 2021 No.704581

>>704126
There were other factors. It's not even like she can't get views at these crap times anyway. Previous stream was 32k at 3am EU.

Wait, this whole argument was predicated on Pekora beating Gura in views but I just checked... that's not true? Gura has passed her in 30 days view count right now actually.

So Gura has her beat in every metric? While streaming for half the time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 20:56:48 2021 No.704620 >>704581 *and at midnight?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:20:27 2021 No.705489 >>703130 looking up giant Gura's skirt!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:22:59 2021 No.705596 >Gura streaming right now >level full of sand >says nothing for like 10+ straight minutes while vacuuming up the sand >chat loves it We'd watch her watch paint dry, anons. There's nothing that you can do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:34:28 2021 No.706056 >>704044 There are people who still believe another agency cant dethrone Hololive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:35:14 2021 No.706070 File: 98 KB, 336x336, GuraVoid.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>705596 I loved every second of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:36:24 2021 No.706102 >>705596 And it was kino.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:38:50 2021 No.706157 >>702506 distance her from any JP collabs

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:39:32 2021 No.706179 >>705596 The sand vacuuming was like almost 30 minutes total outside two breaks to fight random enemies. Watched the whole fucking thing. Top quality content.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:43:43 2021 No.706280

>>703763
As someone who doesn't care either way, speaking from an unbiased perspective (not subbed to Gura and I don't watch her regularly), I feel like part of what is happening here is that you're failing to factor in the greater youtube trends. Gura doesn't have a lot of "dead" subs, nor a bad ratio. She has very good stats for a typical live-focused youtube channel. Basically, the difference here is that JP vtubers' viewership represents a small, unusually engaged audience, whereas Gura simply has a larger more general audience.

It's like trying to compare a JP idol group with an American pop artist and when the American has way higher album sales, attempting to downplay that popularity by pointing out that the Idol group's album sales to merch sales ratio is way, way higher than the American's album to merch sales. Like, sure, that's an objectively true comparison, but the idol group still isn't actually anywhere near as popular.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:46:11 2021 No.706357

>>706070
>>706102
>>706179
Don't worry, bros. I was right there with you. 10/10 would shork again. Seemed she wasn't feeling so great for bit, so she found a way to give her self a bit to chill out while still keeping things moving at least a little bit. She's way more energetic now than she was before the sand bit. Gura is secretly so big brain, I swear. She's just playing at being a dummy for the cute factor. /rrat

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:48:00 2021 No.706402 >>702506 God, imagine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:48:40 2021 No.706423 >>706056 There are still people who don't realize that five digit live viewcounts are insane for the niche that is vtubing. Go to twitch sometime and compare.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:48:50 2021 No.706429 They are all feeding off each other and helping each other along. All the japanese talent got huge numbers from EN being released. In a year or so all the sub counts are going to be so high it won't matter any more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:50:15 2021 No.706468 File: 212 KB, 545x254, numbers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>703763 >Mentioning Minecraft when it's Pekora's biggest buff content Is anyone going to tell him...?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 21:57:08 2021 No.706636 >>706357 I think she just needed the mental boot-up time since she said she just got up before the stream started.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:04:37 2021 No.706812 >>706468 >more useless view count shit Read the thread before posting pedo.

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Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:11:01 2021 No.707030

>>706812
>Arguing about dead subs
>Her views are actually fine when factoring in the VODs
It's almost like comparing someone who caters to one core timezone to one whose target audience covers the whole planet is disingenuous or something. And before you start arguing about individual viewers, the like count is more than double, too. Pekora's VOD is also four days older, by the way.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:15:37 2021 No.707152

>>707030
>implying that someone who has market nearly 10x as big who's sub to view ratio is only 50:50 (at best) with one cherry picked example shatters the argument that gura is not even on the radar of top holo earners.

Face facts. You are a pedophile and disingenuous. Even reddit dragon shits all over her. Just this week earning an all time high super chat in a couple of hours. Gura is a meme.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:27:02 2021 No.707550

>>707152
>Gets caught being disingenuous
>N-no u
>Has the audacity to use Coco's 1M sub celebration in the face of chinkbot hatespam and youtube banning her as a metric for standard Holo SC
Doubling down on being a faggot doesn't help your case.
>market nearly 10x as big
And now we have the damage control. You should be complaining that her subs aren't ten times Pekora's first and foremost before going after the views.
>one cherry picked example
Same kind of content stream a few days apart is about as good as it's going to get for a decent comparison, considering they don't do the same kind of content in general. By all means, if you have better examples, do post them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:31:13 2021 No.707696 >huuuurr you're a pedophile pls leave immediately fgt

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:31:47 2021 No.707716 >>706636 Even if she's westcoast gang that'd still put her wakeup at like 5pm. Relatable shork is relatable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:32:54 2021 No.707753 File: 30 KB, 474x474, 162efe70b89e4c9fb4e8e55ee559f351.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702506 I don't see the homos, where are they?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:33:31 2021 No.707768 >>707753 You need a microscope to see them

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:33:57 2021 No.707780

>>707550
>coco....just hit a million! That must be the answer!
Buutt cocos been out performing the shark in SC revenue for months. Blame chinks all you want, only 73 accounts unsubscribed in an effort to squash her numbers.
>disregarding the fact that youtube is a primarily english platform
This point is super cute. Youre admitting that top earners have a harder time getting into the market, but ignoring why that could be factoring into views at the same time! Bravo.
>stream content is similar in the last few days, but i shant be giving you who watched what when, only total views
pathetic. And considering the gap and audience you should feel ashamed.
>give me better examples
already posted several times in this very thread. You choose to cling on total views and ignore every other metric where your shark is btfo. Thats a you problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:34:59 2021 No.707815 >>707696 Let me examine your storage medium and lets make a bet. Im sure youre only in it for the music.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:41:06 2021 No.708038
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>>707815
sure I absolutely despise pedos and cp. I also hate the over use of labels and resorting to name calling when one is to dumb to either concede or win an argument.
good day sir.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:43:10 2021 No.708103

>>707780
Why is Superchat the only metric if the Vtuber is "reclining". The girls also earn money through ad revenue, memberships and other means. Superchat is only one metric.

Coco and Rushia have their dedicated payfags, no one is arguing this.

Also just because Gura has the most subs doesn't mean that she should automatically have the most Superchats. If that were the case, why is Pewdiepie not in the Top 10 Superchatted despite being the highest subbed Youtuber; does this mean he's reclining, does this mean he's no longer worth millions?

Arguing on one metric and one metric alone is cherry picking and retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:43:34 2021 No.708109 >>702554 You're totally right, bro! Let's talk about Pekora some more! If it isn't Pekora, it's boring! Pekora pekora pekora! Kill yourself.

Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:46:20 2021 No.708195

>>707780
>Butt cocos been out performing the shark in SC revenue for months
We've been over the timezone catering issue. Contrary to popular belief, Coco's biggest gachikoi and nips, not burgers.
And a 1M celebration stream for someone who was brought to tears less than a week earlier after months and months of harassment and corresponding support in response, yes. Keep being disingenuous all you want, though.
>disregarding the fact that vtubers are a nip-centric niche
Show me all the western vtuber doujin conventions. Show me all the western chuuba followings that aren't based around Japan-based chuubas. Show me anyone who can compare with the biggest western trends on youtube, twitter, etc., and how much they overlap those biggest trends overlap with chuuba or indeed any aspect of otaku culture. Maybe then you get to make that comparison.
>stream content is similar in the last few days, but i shant be giving you who watched what when, only total views
I'm sorry? What is your argument here? The points stands that Gura's VOD views appropriately reflect her sub count, so the dead subs argument is retarded. If you don't have an argument for that, let it go.
>already posted several times in this very thread
And I already pointed out why comparing live views between the two is disingenuous and you failed to counter that point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:46:27 2021 No.708200 What is your obsession numbersfag? Are you ok? Wanna talk about who/what hurt you? They're just vtubers friend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:54:13 2021 No.708512 >>708200 Based and chillpilled. These fuckers confidence is so low they have to anti any vtuber who isn't their oshi, as if they feel threatened or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 22:55:57 2021 No.708559 you retards are the reason Gura can't collab

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 23:02:01 2021 No.708797 >>708559 A handful of idiots arguing in a Bolivian tapestry-weaving agora has nothing to do with Cover's most globally recognized asset being under lock-down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 23:09:01 2021 No.709110 When COVID stops.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 23:10:09 2021 No.709164 File: 522 KB, 2000x1800, 1613621409112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702506 With a little JEB SURGE

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 23:28:36 2021 No.710211 >>702554 You contrarian chicken fags are so tiring

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 23:30:53 2021 No.710336 File: 29 KB, 160x315, 4B55AEC8-F716-4C6F-A8C5-E8EEC3C50E02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>703373 >5’11” vs 6’0”

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 23:31:35 2021 No.710366 >>702506 Why do I feel like she will be overtaken by one of the new members of EN gen 2

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 23:32:32 2021 No.710424 >>710336 Roberu dildo

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 17 23:38:21 2021 No.710690 >>710366 If it'll help her get over her anxiety and impostor syndrome, then great!

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 00:23:25 2021 No.712449

>>710366
So? I'm so tired of scrotes acting like it's a competition. As long as she's making enough to live on I don't really give a fuck what her numbers look like. Of course, there is a sense of pride that comes from seeing her reach milestones, but I think we'd love her and be proud to be her fans even if she was the least subbed.

>>710336
Roberu is such a good boy... he deserves so much more. Where are the lonely weeb girls? I knew so many of them back in highschool that would have simped out over Roberu 100%

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 00:40:08 2021 No.712978 i wasn't watching, but did she leave the room to do something at some point in the stream she just did? i'm crafting a theory right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 00:42:44 2021 No.713076 >>712978 lmao bro drink some water ur too lit rn... but no, she didn't go afk, just silent and deadpan stare while continuing to play for a while. Gura pretty much never goes afk unless it's a cooking stream

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 00:56:29 2021 No.713540 >>709164 are they supposed to be the size of her shoe or is the perspective just fucked

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 01:22:34 2021 No.714357

>>703763
This still hasn’t proven she isn’t the most popular Holo. This entire discussion is predicated on OP speaking strictly about subscriber count.

Even if that doesn’t matter and even if Gura is just popular, gets a good amount of SC’s, and has good concurrent viewership. Regardless of your ass on head essay she’s still the highest sub count holder of all Hololive.

Nobody but you restless number niggers and Kiara fans care about any of this number bullshit.

That being said, Gura will continue to accrue retard levels of subscribers, her viewership will remain consistent, and her karaoke streams will remain her most popular endeavor.

Tbf she’s a lazy neet who gets by on memes, but that’s fine. Literally every chuuba does their own thing. Pekora is popular because /rice/ likes their furry onahole and Kiara whales love her because whatever reason they can shitpost here about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 01:50:13 2021 No.715164 >>702506 You don't because more people getting into Vtubers / Hololive due to her benefits all the other members as well and vice versa.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 01:52:39 2021 No.715231 File: 2.24 MB, 300x300, 1590021467804.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>714357 >nobody but you numberfags care >write up long ass autistic post filled with copium about how gura's numbers don't really matter

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 01:58:47 2021 No.715411 File: 185 KB, 1280x700, we-re-gonna-need-a-bigger-boat-6-jaws-quotneed-bigger-boatquot-film-clip1280700 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702506 that's a big shark

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 02:02:06 2021 No.715514 >>702554 >Gura can't even beat Kiara in profits. Gura more than makes up for the difference in superchats with memberships anon. she has more than any other holo as far as I'm aware.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 02:03:41 2021 No.715554 >>702871 How is it fair? 2 of the most popular JP girls vs one hololive EN.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 02:29:13 2021 No.716439 >>713540 the artist is a size fetish degenerate

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 02:49:34 2021 No.716926 >>703890 Peko actually is closing the gap of vod viewers even more so that their diff. Is only 50k compared to last months 100k

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 02:50:36 2021 No.716952 >>716926 Meant for this>>703839

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 03:21:54 2021 No.717492 >>703616 the Who

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 03:24:15 2021 No.717524 >>702506 >Jan 18 Gura has inreased by 250,000 since then

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 03:35:19 2021 No.717692 >Barely streams with anyone (used to be JP and ID, now even EN collabs are scarce) >Losing traction on her sub counts >Superchats slowing down >Dodders off every stream now (10 minutes vacuuming sand) She's her own worst enemy

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:29:09 2021 No.718348 I like gura but I don't get how you have 4+ hours to sit and watch a stream considering the first hour is just her getting to grips with the game, videos need to be made shorter or you're only going to get jobless people watching

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:31:10 2021 No.718370 >>703270 you are expecting too much from them anon i have many thech savy friends who don't use adblock and young zoomers are even more retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:33:38 2021 No.718396 >>718348 That's just any streamer It's also why big streamers have stream highlight videos (which she's planning on doing, or at least has toyed with the idea)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:37:41 2021 No.718441 >>708109 holy shit the level of irony in this post

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:39:43 2021 No.718459 >>702841 I turn on adblock exclusively for Gura streams

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:40:17 2021 No.718466 she doesnt get any superchats but shes an eye candy for mutt and spic casuals and thats a good thing. she can stop them from turning into eop faggots

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:42:15 2021 No.718493 File: 235 KB, 1080x1336, IMG_20210218_104142.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702506 My poor boys...

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:45:48 2021 No.718528 >>704159 ASMR

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:48:00 2021 No.718553 >>708103 ad rev is garbage

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:55:31 2021 No.718644 >>702907 >tfw no giant Gura to sit on you Think bigger anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:57:15 2021 No.718665 >>718493 festival's giant thigh...

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 04:59:13 2021 No.718686 File: 313 KB, 850x747, EsVXUKWUcGIi8tFasdadsdas.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I thought this was the Giantess/Gura general... why the fuck are you talking about viewer counts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 05:48:11 2021 No.719236 File: 194 KB, 1024x1412, korone_the_big_brown_dog_by_alice_magic_de00gci-fullview.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>718686 Gura only, or are others allowed?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 05:55:58 2021 No.719330 File: 953 KB, 3246x1000, 83614388_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>719236 All Holos are welcome!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 06:18:10 2021 No.719599 File: 264 KB, 1280x1097, ErTfmn_VgAEnVZE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>719330

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 06:19:24 2021 No.719615 File: 1.64 MB, 1920x1080, 1610481560257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>719599

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 06:33:47 2021 No.719813 >>718493 roberu king of the manlets

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 07:03:35 2021 No.720239 >>703086 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FqZJS-ZwA

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 07:17:44 2021 No.720396 >>703763 you need to have sex and probably go outside

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 07:33:20 2021 No.720655 >>702506 Why contain it? Let it spill over to the schools and churches. Let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 08:23:57 2021 No.721575 >>706056 Who can do it? >>710366 I hope, the retarded shark never asked for this. In todays stream she commented how 10k viewers was comfy because she could actually read chat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 08:39:44 2021 No.721813 >>702506 kiara eventually we both know its true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 08:43:32 2021 No.721861 >>703083 >>703127 And the shark fags begin to cope KEK >>718459 Based

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 08:47:57 2021 No.721920 >>702506 Bait (heh) her into talking about politics and watch her get suspended faster than you can say "material conditions of the working class."

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 08:54:22 2021 No.721987 >>706987 >>708200 >>702506 Its one obsessed schizo making these Gura threads. Easy to tell because he started off with the VOD views don't count when that shut him up in the other thread. >>/vt/thread/S699376#p700084

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 09:01:57 2021 No.722078 I think guru is great in small clips. Find myself watching Mori and Ina more lately.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 09:09:59 2021 No.722204 File: 217 KB, 1614x2048, 1611887566230.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>721920 you post like a chink

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 09:15:56 2021 No.722301 >>722204 I'm just saying, if you wanted to "stop" her, that'd be one way to do it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 09:16:16 2021 No.722309 >>720239 Is this full animation or motion capture? If mocap, the girls really are idol-tier.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 09:20:55 2021 No.722387 File: 8 KB, 420x98, 1601519449551.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702506

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 09:22:03 2021 No.722408 >>703086 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsxWN7S8Ivo the one with the best ass.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 09:54:43 2021 No.723210 >>702506 imagina a giant gawr gura stepping on all the holostars with cute feetsies haha wouldn't that be funny

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 09:56:04 2021 No.723252 >>708109 This but unironically

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 10:10:30 2021 No.723660 >>702506 What's the use of having the most jewtube subscribers if more than 97% of them don't actually watch your content? I think in relation to subscribers, Hachama has a stronger viewerbase. Probably applies to Korone too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 11:37:37 2021 No.725199 >>702506 Human cant stop Megalodon. Also >we

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 11:41:19 2021 No.725276 File: 2.69 MB, 1858x1858, 1612211477436.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702506 Why would we stop her? Shark domination is the new golden age. Kneel to your meme queen.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 11:43:16 2021 No.725312

>>703616
Lol like who? No one in her current generation comes even close to her and she was already a massive success before she even joined hololive. Who do you expect to come along in gen 2 that can compare? It'll be more people nobody has ever heard of, unlike senzawa.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 11:46:03 2021 No.725358 >>712449 >scrotes Holy fuck, go back to lolcow

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 11:52:03 2021 No.725468 >>709164 >156m

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 11:56:27 2021 No.725530 >>709110 So, not in the next 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 12:17:40 2021 No.725857 >>716439 Based. Who's the artist?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 12:38:14 2021 No.726258 >>703127 This. Most are watching her on their smartphones.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 12:53:20 2021 No.726557 >>718665 i never knew how much i wanted festivals giant thigh until now...

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Anonymous Thu Feb 18 14:07:23 2021 No.727861

there's only one metric thats important, it's customer lifetime value. as in how much money can i as a business get from you sustainably. a random one-off superchat may work now thanks to exposure but what happens when it dies down? if you can capture people's interest and have them tune in your stream consistently then you increase your chances of superchats, memebership, etc. by that metric the winner would be Haachama, her current horror/lore strategy has people hooked on trying to guess whats going on, sort of like FNAF and Game Theory.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:09:14 2021 No.729086 >>703763 Your oshi would be disgusted by you if she could see you now anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:17:13 2021 No.729249 I see Mori and Kiara just get a fuckton of SCs and not just cheap ones either. For whatever reason I never see Gura's fans do the same for her and I've rarely missed any EN stream since their debut.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:18:59 2021 No.729285 >>729249 Gura's audience are broke neets, pedos, and children. Mori and Kiara know how to milk money from the high ballers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:20:28 2021 No.729321 File: 6 KB, 408x74, nasa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702698 How can Vtubers even compete?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:21:55 2021 No.729342 >>729285 When will you fags understand that SC are not everything? Gura sure as fuck has way more members. She's also not milking SC reading streams.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:23:18 2021 No.729373 >>702506 >How do we stop her? Subscribe to Kizuna Ai. Unironically.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:33:28 2021 No.729571

>>729373
Kizuna AI has a video that has nearly 15 million views, she was featured in TV shows, she met Colonel Hans Landa, sold a gigaton of merch, she has way more subscribers than Gura and is part of internet culture history. Gura streamed for 3 hours last night and couldn't even get 20,000 watchers despite her high sub count because it's pretty much all dead subs. Gura is an ant compared to Kizuna AI.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:37:24 2021 No.729634 >>729571 Go fuck something

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:40:35 2021 No.729687

She is for Anglo sphere and spics. I've never watched her videos because her gaming videos are too normalfaggy.

It's like Anglos only buy funko garbage up. They never buy figma or nendoroid except for hardcore weebs. The market is different from other vtuber markets especially the jp market. Japanese never buy funko garbage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:41:10 2021 No.729700 >>729285 Mori's album actually hit #1 globally in many charts. Gura's singing ability is literally the one thing she has over the others but I doubt she can do what Mori did. Forever mogged.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:47:26 2021 No.729809 >>729700 Charts don't mean anything today. Look at Kpop. Only the small hardcore fan group buys it and yet it becomes the top even in mainstream charts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:48:24 2021 No.729832 >>718686 >>719236 >>719330 >>719599 >>719615 I'll never understand this fetish. Same with vore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:48:41 2021 No.729839 >>729571 What was Kizuna AI's viewer count on her last stream?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:49:26 2021 No.729852 >>718493 >who would win >9 furfags >or 1 fluffy loli

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:50:10 2021 No.729871 >>729809 You are really out of touch. Kpop is extremely huge and is not a niche, that's how it tops mainstream charts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 15:53:19 2021 No.729949 >>729809 >Charts don't mean anything Prove it. >Only the small hardcore fan group buys it Nigger, Kpop's hardcore fanbase is definitely not small.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 17:16:41 2021 No.731685 >>729571 Whats with this fucking dead sub meme. I need to lead this board your all mental.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 17:18:04 2021 No.731706 File: 1.43 MB, 1000x1415, Zion.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://poal.me/1kbcqg

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 17:54:31 2021 No.732464 >>704167 both

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>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 19:13:20 2021 No.734261 >>702506 I don't get it, is it because she's a loli? She isn't entertaining for funny at all. She tries so hard to distance herself from Senzawa that she ends up just being flat out boring.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 19:27:53 2021 No.734530 >>734261 (you)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 19:30:58 2021 No.734585 File: 256 KB, 750x1050, de51nmm-562a5128-524f-48c9-8813-76a7c4a59b38.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>729832 True. If you don't get this stuff currently, you will not get it in the future.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 19:36:38 2021 No.734690

>>729249
Gura never baits them and hardly reads them. Shes read superchats for probably 1% of the amount of time Mori or Kiara has. If she did superchat readings like the other girls she would be making 5x what they do. She already makes more money than anyone just from memberships.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 20:42:24 2021 No.736300 I think Rushia makes the most money. She is a superchat magnet

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 20:45:11 2021 No.736389 Gura views per video 494,778, pekora 394,289. But Gura is lazy

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 20:46:24 2021 No.736421 >>702506 why would we want to?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 21:34:39 2021 No.738187 >>703763 Gura's audience is international in all timezones. Most of her viewers cant or dont watch her livestreams but they do watch her VODs. Her VOD numbers are the highest amongst everyone at hololive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 21:51:18 2021 No.738842 >>736300 Japanese paypigs are on a whole other level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 21:56:13 2021 No.739048 >>738187 The only intelligent comment in this shit hole of a thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:19:06 2021 No.740039 >>738187 >>739048 I pointed this out ages ago but shitposters don't respond well when their narratives get destroyed.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:21:21 2021 No.740127

>>738187
>>739048
>>740039
>samefagging
Also VODs don't matter because we don't know how many of her subs (which are mostly dead) have adblock.
>Gura's audience is international
Therefore she should always be getting more viewers because she has global appeal, yet that's not the case.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:33:12 2021 No.740550

>>740127
>samefagging
I haven't posted in this thread since yesterday, shockingly enough there's more than one non-retard in this thread.
>(which are mostly dead)
Except that the VOD viewcount demonstrably proves that wrong. Also nice goalpost moving, I love how you're having to qualify it with """"mostly"""" now.
>Therefore she should always be getting more viewers because she has global appeal
You still don't seem to understand how timezones work, if it's too complicated for you, drop the issue. See also >>704146, Gura has more tagged content on YT than all of Pekora's combined, just because people aren't watching her live doesn't mean people don't follow her content, she's the biggest international icon Cover has right now. Even in Japan, she already has fan merchandise and her own fucking doujin convention next week. Get over your retard narrative already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:35:50 2021 No.740666 >>740127 >Therefore she should always be getting more viewers because she has global appeal, yet that's not the case. First learn what time zone are, then cope with the fact that most people need to get up early to work, then shut the fuck.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:50:34 2021 No.741247
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>>740550
I don't know why you redditors keep bringing up VODs when it actually makes Gura look bad. I guess it's your last resort because Gura gets mogged brutally when it comes to live viewership and sc revenue, despite having twice the number of subs compared to her senpai.
>VOD viewcount
Gura's VOD views aren't even significantly higher than the other top Holo's. Her peaks (around 800k mark) aren't that impressive considering Korone and Peko got those too sometimes, if not just around 600k as a higher end. Which actually makes Gura look bad considering that Gura has nearly a million more subs than either of them. It proves her dead sub to active sub ratio look terrible. Gura should be getting way more VOD views than that because of that million sub difference, AND the fact that she has more of a global audience (more people understand English so Japanese are at a disadvantage). The other top Holos have better sub to viewer ratios. Also, you don't know how many of Gura's fans use adblock, in this day and age probably most of them which means VOD views are useless. You don't have a reliable source for how many use adblock so it's all just speculation anyway, all we know is her ratio is utter garbage. The fact that you have to resort to this just because she gets shit on in live watchers and sc revenue is hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:52:05 2021 No.741292 >>740666 Except Gura already tried streaming for a different timezone and her viewers for that was even worse than usual. Welcome to reality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:52:06 2021 No.741294 >>741247 Now dismantle the membership headcanon which can't be proved

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:54:20 2021 No.741353 >>741294 >couldn't refute the vodshit >now moving the goalpost kek. What membership headcanon? What source do you have for their membership data anyway? There's no reliable tracker site for that yet. Post source or I'm taking this as you giving up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:55:54 2021 No.741405 >>741353 buddy I'm on your side. Theres this narrative she must have a lot of members because she has a lot of subs

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:59:23 2021 No.741533

>>707152
Face facts. Your oshi will never be as popular as Gura. And Gura will overtake Kizuna Ai soon. And even your dead subs crap means nothing, as there's a thing called VODs and archives. If anyone has dead subs it's Mori, as there's the music factor along with the streamer factor. Stay seething senpai.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:00:14 2021 No.741569

>>741405
>she has a lot of subs
Dead subs, you mean. As for members, we need an up-to-date and credible site to track those numbers or else we can't have a valid comparison. That number is most fickle since people are cancelling and joining all the time, polls just won't do. Literally everytime I ask a Gurafag to link me to any credible source for their claim (she has the most memberships), he would disappear. Happens every time.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:01:27 2021 No.741607

>>741533
>there's a thing called VODs
And there's this thing called adblock, which most people in the year 2021 have. So Gura likely isn't making that much money from those, and also Gura's VOD views aren't even significantly higher than the other top Holos'.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:06:12 2021 No.741774 File: 458 KB, 800x600, ld0g6b19tav51.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Look at this nousagi/KFP thread and laugh. How do we get their brains to implode by their precious numbers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:10:59 2021 No.741940 >>722309 almost certainly animated. they're too in-sync for it to be anything else

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:15:04 2021 No.742068 >>702554 Why are Pekora fans so fucking insufferable?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:18:03 2021 No.742147 File: 163 KB, 1200x957, 1604726588212.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>741774 >gets completely BTFO in every argument >starts sniping from the sidelines like a pussy kek >>741940 I have no idea how someone can think that's motion capture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:20:58 2021 No.742238 File: 242 KB, 638x717, 1607102436506.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>742147 >nousagis > > >

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:25:14 2021 No.742362 File: 26 KB, 379x289, Pixiv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] here's a weird one that I don't see people bringing up. pekora also gets more fanart on top of getting more live viewers and having a higher net worth

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:25:34 2021 No.742375

>>741247
>Writing this massive shitpost just to say "she only gets slightly more views than everyone else, which is terrible"
And you failed to addressed the key point, that her views aren't everything, her YT tags say it all and like I said they have more content than all of Pekora's combined, even if all of her subs aren't watching her videos they are still promoting her regardless. She's a fucking icon, a living commodity, she has fan-made merchandise and a doujin event despite not even having been around for six months yet. Your argument is a meaningless joke.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:32:51 2021 No.742579 >>742362 >#ぺこらーと >1.1K videos • 200 channels >#gawrt >1.5K videos • 346 channels Can't really tally the twitter results which would probably be the real way of telling these days.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:33:51 2021 No.742617
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>>742375
That post is not any more massive than the post it was replying to. And it was strictly facts, so it's not shitposting. Love how you ignore every point and gave up on using vods, now resorting to tags.
>she's a fucking icon
Pekora has a much higher net worth than Gura. Has made almost a million $ more in sc revenue. She gets more live viewers every week which means more fan interaction and more sc. Her VOD views in relation to her much smaller sub count (almost a million less than Gura's) make her sub to viewer ratio much higher than Gura's. And we can't even get an accurate number on how much Gura earns anyway because adblock exists and we don't have a tracker site for reliable vod revenue and memberships as well. The one thing Gura has more than Pekora are dead subs.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:40:15 2021 No.742851

>>742617
>Love how you ignore every point
No, I summed up your point in one line and pointed out how vapid it is.
>and gave up on using vods
I didn't though? You keep moving the goalposts from dead subs, to mostly dead subs, to they don't count because of adblock, to Pekora having proportionally more based on sub to view ratio, to whatever the fuck you move to next, so there's nothing more to say on the subject. She still gets more views at the end of the day, so her subs aren't dead. Cope.
>now resorting to tags.
You mean an actual metric for community content and how much awareness she creates for herself and Hololive as a brand? I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to bring up figures that would actually hurt your argument, I should've realized they weren't allowed. Never mind, eh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:59:15 2021 No.743465 >>742362 >pekora debuted before Gura >pekora already on hot trend when Gura started >pekora is making japanese contents, so more japanese artists making art for her about live views I do think Pekora is more fun to watch

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:05:41 2021 No.743671
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>>742851
>No
Yes you did. You ignored every other point in >>741247 And you continue to do so because you can't refute anything there. Notice how in my other posts I'm actually bringing up relevant information that have a valid source while you're just spewing nonsense.
>I didn't.
Yes you did, you were all 'muh VODs' and now you're using primarily tags as your final cope. Everyone in the thread can see that.
>an actual metric
Not really. If it really was the ultimate metric Gura would have a higher net worth than Pekora (she doesn't), would have a much higher weekly live viewership and higher sc revenue (she doesn't), a better viewer to sub ratio (she doesn't), more fanart (she doesn't). Again, the only thing Gura has more of are dead subs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:21:57 2021 No.744027 >>741607 Most? At most it's only one third of internet users using some sort of ad block.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:27:02 2021 No.744121
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>>743671
You didn't have any other arguments other than reiterating the same points trying to support the aforementioned inane one.
>Yes you did, you were all 'muh VODs' and now you're using primarily tags as your final cope.
The VODs were the counterpoint to the dead subs argument, which was incidental to the popularity/monetary value issue. The dead subs issue has been put to bed with you being provably wrong, with her actual views and the tags being the key reasons for this.
>Everyone in the thread can see that.
Everyone in the thread can see you repeating yourself like a broken record and apparently I'm the only one bored enough to keep acknowledging you. I don't anyone else really cares.
>Association fallacy
Gura's popularity creates a following independent of her own individual views, SCs, etc. as a vtuber and it extends not only to herself, but to Hololive and vtubers in general. While it cannot be directly proven that Pekora herself has benefitted from her growth, nor how much is specifically from Gura and not other members of HoloEN, the overall incline starting from the HoloEN debuts affecting Hololive as a whole cannot be dismissed. I know you'll just write this off as "no actual hard evidence" like the disingenuous faggot that you are, but those tag results are an easily observable part of that metric.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:28:02 2021 No.744137 >>703086 Objectively the hottest Holo. She is made for breeding and her entire self is pure sex. > Raspy voice > Short hair > Glasses > Fat ass > Fat udders > Multiple accessories/clothing > Goes hard on games

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:38:40 2021 No.744333 File: 40 KB, 1424x672, GvP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>743671 >>744121 Just for the hell of it, let's look at some comparison trends, since facts speak louder than angrily arguing over technicalities.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:39:13 2021 No.744345 >>729871 Kpop is indeed a niche in the west and only as "popular" as it is because of its extremely loyal fanbase that love to spam kpop shit everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:40:24 2021 No.744358 File: 38 KB, 1440x688, GvP YT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>744333

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:41:25 2021 No.744371 File: 53 KB, 1426x672, GvP YT2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>744358 Also I'd like it to be known that I omitted using Pekora's name in Japanese since that actually yielded lower results for her, interestingly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:42:17 2021 No.744390 >>702506 I can't watch her because of that laugh she created for herself but I'm fine with peko's pekos weird

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:44:00 2021 No.744416 >>729809 Nigga this isn't 2003 when K-pop was for failed weebs. K-pop is fucking huge these days.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:46:07 2021 No.744454

Why do retards try to compare Gura to Pekora? Pekora gets views from Japanese and English fans because she consistently interacts with people who speak English and occasionally speaks English herself. Gura only gets viewers from people who speak English, and this makes her viewer numbers frankly more impressive. It also makes her extremely important for hololive in general. She brings in English viewers who go on to watch other hololive members, including Pekora herself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:48:45 2021 No.744503 >>744454 because I couldn't think of another holo with a vocal tic off the top of my head

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:49:39 2021 No.744519 >>744454 Because half of the threads here are Hololive viewers shitting on one another.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:51:21 2021 No.744552
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>>744121
>you didn't have any other arguments
I easily corrected all the bullshit people were spouting. Everything from VODs being overhyped, to sub ratios to the timezone cope to the membership headcanon. All you said was tags is the ultimate metric, which you have yet to prove and is laughably retarded.
>repeating yourself
Because they keep the repeating the same false narratives which I easily corrected.
>The VODs were the counterpoint to the dead subs
And here, I have to repeat myself again because you yourself ironically is the broken record. This is the last time I'll repeat this, I'll simply ignore VODshit in this thread from now on.
1. Gura doesn't even get significantly higher VOD views than the other top Holos >>741247
2. Bringing up VODs only makes Gura looks bad, counterintuitive to your whiteknighting. We don't know how many of Gura's viewers have adblock so no way to calculate her VOD revenue, could be really high, could be really low. She has pretty much a 1-million sub advantage, yet she can only gets like 200k more VOD views when the difference should be higher, it's because of her dead subs not watching, aka her terrible sub-viewer ratio. Korone and Pekora also get those higher end 800k VOD views and 600k despite having significantly less subs than Gura's. Their viewer ratios shit on hers, imagine if they had 2 million subs with the same ratio they have now.
3. Gura speaks English so she has an inherent advantage over the Japanese Holos, she has a much wider audience. But she even fails to get as many live watchers because her subs aren't watching, where did the 2 million people go? Right, dead subs.
4. Gura already tried streaming at an earlier timezone and got 17,000 live watchers, even worse than her usual. So the timezone cope doesn't work. Gura's last LM stream only had 13,000 people watching for the majority of it, so yeah her 2 million sub count is nothing but a facade. Her actual number of live subs are mostly likely less than the other top Holos'.
Mentioning 'muh VODs' again will only get you linked to this post.
>Gura's populariry creates a following
They all have their following. Gura's isn't that special, except maybe in the number of dead subs/fags that don't donate to her.
>no actual hard evidence
I'm the only one throughout this entire thread actually presenting facts with actual sources, you're obsessing over a metric that hasn't given Gura any actual success. Why can't 'muh tags' get her a proper viewer to sub ratio? Why can't it let her have higher net worths than people with MILLIONS less subscribers than her? Why can't it have her get as many live watchers (therefore more fan interaction) and sc revenue as Holos with millions less subscribers? Literally every new post you make is only proving me right and making Gura look even worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:53:31 2021 No.744591 >>702554 why do people pretend gura doesn't omegamog every holo in just memberships only, we already know she has 15k+ members

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:53:39 2021 No.744594

>>744552
>3. Gura speaks English so she has an inherent advantage over the Japanese Holos, she has a much wider audience. But she even fails to get as many live watchers because her subs aren't watching, where did the 2 million people go? Right, dead subs.
You're assuming for some strange reason that the English audience wont watch Japanese holos like pekora which is blatantly false. For one thing there is only 5 english holos but many japanese holos. It's much more likely that an English fan will find a jp holo that appeals to them. I know none of the eng holos really match my tastes.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:55:51 2021 No.744632

>>744591
Post a credible source where you can see all of the Hololive's membership data. Until then, it's just you guessing numbers against imaginary numbers. Polls don't work because it doesn't take into account how many people have actually voted, how many cancelled the memberships, how many joined, etc. Until you have a credible site that tracks memberships, it's just your headcanon.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:57:08 2021 No.744656

>>744594
It takes a special kind of weeb to watch a stream without understanding any of it. You can't get over the fact that English is spoken by far more people than nip is. There is overlap, but not enough to pretend the language barrier doesn't exist.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:03:11 2021 No.744752

>>744333
>>744358
>>744371
In conclusion, the disparity between viewers/SC and the number of people taking interest in Gura can be explained thusly: first of all, the majority are probably clipfags (surprising no one) and second of all, it doesn't really matter. Because what Gura represents right now isn't directly observable (at least on our end) monetary value, but brand recognition. No one really watches Mickey Mouse anymore, certainly not compared to the amount of people who watch the latest popular Pixar movies or whatever. Does it matter? No, because Mickey is a fucking icon that is known across the planet and that lone is worth its weight in gold to Disney and anyone invested in the product.
>Imagine comparing Gura to Mickey Mouse
She is to Cover what Mickey is to Disney, yes. However long that lasts is anyone's guess, but that's the status quo. Now if you'll excuse me I've got Sameket to prepare for.

>>744552
You didn't do any of those things.
>the same false narratives
Everyone is spouting conjecture on both sides and you have done nothing to prove either party.
>Sub to view ratio
It's still very high. And again, see above on the subject of viewership versus actual awareness.
>3. Gura speaks English so she has an inherent advantage over the Japanese Holos, she has a much wider audience.
See >>708195 on the subject of chuubas a niche subject in a broader global audience.
>4. Gura already tried streaming at an earlier timezone and got 17,000 live watchers, even worse than her usual. So the timezone cope doesn't work.
The timezone issue is that Pekora's is centralized whilst Gura's is spread over literally every timezone.
>They all have their following
>I'm the only one throughout this entire thread actually presenting facts with actual sources
See >>744121, >>744333, >>744358, and >>744371. And I addressed your questions in the point above. Thank you for your time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:06:01 2021 No.744800 >>740039 >>739048 >>738187 See>>716926

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:07:31 2021 No.744828 ITT: schizos fighting on who has the longest dick

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:08:51 2021 No.744854 >>744828 Based small dick chad

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:09:43 2021 No.744875 >>744594 You fucking retard, not everyone is a fucking weeb

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:11:23 2021 No.744911 >>744752 Gura doesnt represent hololive, heck some of her viewers doesnt even know gura's genmates

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:13:14 2021 No.744954 >>744828 ps. its me

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:17:31 2021 No.745072 >>744911 I didn't say she represents Hololive, I said she's their Mickey, she's their most well-known and most highly recognized figure.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:18:33 2021 No.745099

>>744752
>You didn't do any of those things
Yes I did and once again, you're showing the entire thread that you're not even attempting to refute them. You just say I didn't while not backing it up.
Me on why Gura's VODs aren't as impressive as whiteknights say: >>744552 (Told you this will just get linked)
>you have done nothing to prove
Yes I did. Notice how you're STILL not refuting them. All you say in response is "You didn't" Without explaining why I didn't. That's how shallow your replies are. That's how retarded you look to the people reading this chain of replies.
>It's still very high
13,000 watchers out of 2.24 million is not a high sub to view ratio. Being unable to get more watchers than Holos with a million less subs than you isn't high. Only getting a few hundred K VOD views despite having a million more subs isn't high.
>on the subject
'Muh timezone' and 'Muh English doesn't matter' copes, already done with this. Gura tried streaming at an earlier timezone and got shit viewership and her being able to speak English is objectively an advantage over Japanese Holos.
>They all have their following
Yes they do. You still haven't explained what makes Gura's so special, you were implying something like that but you didn't elaborate on it. Just like you don't elaborate on anything else. As far as actual data the only thing that makes Gura's following different is the huge amount of dead subs compared to the other Holos.
>See
First you were primarily coping with 'Muh VODs', you stopped. Then it was 'Muh Tags' you stopped. Now you're resorting to google trends. Sure, people probably searched her more as of recently. But how many of those searches actually translated to real fans? Does Gura have a better sub to viewer ratio because of it? No. Does Gura have a higher net worth than Pekora because she was searched more? No. Does Gura have more fanart now that she was searched more? No. Does Gura stop getting mogged in live viewership, fan interaction and sc revenue because she was searched more? No. No matter what new kind of cope you come up with, reality always wins.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:25:55 2021 No.745291

WOULD YOU PEOPLE SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT SUPERCHATS
THE ONLY MOTHERFUCKER IN THIS ENTIRE COMPANY WHO HAS TO WORRY ABOUT FUCKING SUPERCHATS IS FUCKING CHOCO, AND I DON'T SEE YOU FUCKING INFERIOR NUMBERFAGS GIVING A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT THAT
WHERE ARE THE SCARY "OOOOHHH, NOOOO, CHOCO IS GONNA BE LET GO, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS, THE USADA WINS AGAIN" POSTS?
YOU'RE ARGUING OVER WHICH SIX FIGURE EARNER IS DOING S L I G H T L Y BETTER THAN THE OTHER WHEN BOTH OF THEM COULD BE EATING CAVIAR OFF OF A THAI BOY'S BARELY HAIRY CHEST FOR LIFE AND NOT EVEN FEEL A FUCKING DENT IN THEIR INVESTMENTS
WHAT
IS
THE
FUCKING
POINT
OF
THIS

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:27:25 2021 No.745333 >>745291 Best Post ITT your all faggots

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:28:07 2021 No.745351 >>745291 >no arguments >capslock rage mode Ya love to see it

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:37:35 2021 No.745610

>>745099
>13,000 watchers out of 2.24 million is not a high sub to view ratio.
See the timezone issue. Also the VOD views, which we're done with.
>Gura tried streaming at an earlier timezone and got shit viewership
Stop ignoring the point. She would have to stream for every optimum timezone literally simultaneously to get every single one of her subs to watch her live, which isn't physically possible. That's what having a global following actually means. Speaking English is apart of that.
>Yes they do. You still haven't explained what makes Gura's so special, you were implying something like that but you didn't elaborate on it.
The community tag is the representation of that, which, like I said, is bigger than all of Pekora's tags combined. Stop ignoring that.
>First you were primarily coping with 'Muh VODs', you stopped
Because we're done. She has sufficient views on them, that is all.
>Then it was 'Muh Tags' you stopped.
No, you keep ignoring what it represents.
>Now you're resorting to google trends.
Which you have no counterpoint for, I see.
>All the rubbish at the bottom
I literally address that in the top of my previous post. The content people are watching is the stuff in the tags and the clips from search results. People are creating and viewing content based on those search results, awareness of her spreads like wildfire, and that is the actual influence of her popularity, not the number of people who show up to her streams or SC her. The fact that literally millions of people across the planet are aware of her (and Hololive by association) is where her value lies.
>No matter what new kind of cope you come up with, reality always wins.
It sure does and I'm sure you'll come to terms with it some day.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:43:37 2021 No.745847 [DELETED]

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>>741569
Ok here is your (you)
Look at this latest poll
Everyone can only cast one vote
And there are 219k votes which means she has at least 219k active members.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:47:29 2021 No.746002

>>745099
>>745610
As a final footnote on the numbers issue, the fact that Pekora has an entire year on Gura speaks volumes about the contrast with regards to content being produced for them. Pekora has an entire year's backlog of fanart and other content, the fact that Gura is even close says it all really.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:55:49 2021 No.746317 >>745291 incredibly chad post /thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:57:28 2021 No.746360 Guys, what's Gura's appeal? Don't take me wrong, I like her, I just don't understand why she's the most popular of the EN members. Is it because the A meme made her grow to a point were she would just keep getting more and more subs?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:00:07 2021 No.746440 >>745847 Anon, that's a public poll, not a member's only poll...

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:01:17 2021 No.746477 >>746440 Sorry, I am dumb then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:02:37 2021 No.746561 File: 609 KB, 825x1200, db4a701f6aaef61d39f7c5edddf19a66.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] steps on numberfags

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:06:07 2021 No.746694 File: 407 KB, 791x804, numbersApex.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>702506 idk, Hal playing Apex does that easily

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:01:38 2021 No.750154 >>745291 based

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:08:32 2021 No.750344 >>702506 >>702698 >numberfags STFU

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:15:36 2021 No.750504 >>702506 I love this

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:19:36 2021 No.750611 >>729832 power demonstration/power play it's the final form of femdom vore is that + snuff. Ending lives simply by doing the mundane task of consuming food.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:21:28 2021 No.750659 >>742375 >despite not even having been around for six months yet But this performer has been on youtube for at least 3 years.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:25:54 2021 No.750765

>>746360
Cunny

Also her voice and personality is just the right amount of appealing for most people

Amelia might have toned down a bit but her early "toxic" streamer personality was a debuff

Ina is tends to be boring for most viewers

Kiara's chicken voice is like listening to sand paper

Mori tends to be cringy

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:35:56 2021 No.750968 >>746694 He, along with every other APEX vtuber, bet on the right FPS horse.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:36:06 2021 No.750972

>>750659
Senzawa the Youtuber =/= Senzawa the Twitch streamer

Despite what other people might say, Senzawa was popular Youtuber because of her meme songs, but as a Streamer, she was average

Just because her Meme videos got her to 1 million subs doesnt mean she's automatically better as a streamer than her contemporaries

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:36:13 2021 No.750975 >>750765 you're completely on the nose about everything except >Amelia might have toned down a bit but her early "toxic" streamer personality was a debuff people are starved for edgy content, the Gura and Ame collabs give them that in edible chunks

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:37:05 2021 No.750993 >>750659 So we're including Hestia cosplay titty streams as well, then? Every Holo has a track record, that's how they get the job. Also I doubt the nips who made the fan-made merch and arranged the doujin event knew or cared about her back then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:41:19 2021 No.751068 >>750975 I'd argue edgy content doesn't describe Amelia's earlier Holo streams but we can agree to disagree

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:43:19 2021 No.751105 >>751068 Amelia is a powerful meme gremlin on her own, but she needs Gura in to draw out her true power

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:45:35 2021 No.751148 why does the shark inspire such seething.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:54:31 2021 No.751308 >>751148 because she's #1, and popularity breeds both contrarianism and shitty fandoms.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:58:55 2021 No.751415 >>751148 Look at me. I don't like something that is popular That automatically makes me better than (you)!

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>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:59:59 2021 No.753353 >>702698 OH NONONO

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>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:43:35 2021 No.755138 >>755101 >ame used this for a stream thumbnail

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:56:04 2021 No.755374 File: 208 KB, 1000x1039, 1613523634915.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>755138 For similar level of Based, you also have Ina drawing pic related

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:02:31 2021 No.755501 Mori has a shrinking fetish!!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:20:28 2021 No.755825 File: 941 KB, 1024x430, JAWS-14-2-1024x430.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It ain't gonna be easy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:06:26 2021 No.756791 >>741607 >and also Gura's VOD views aren't even significantly higher than the other top Holos'. Gura has about 700k total average VOD views. That is about 300k more than Pekora. The rest is not even worth mentioning

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:18:55 2021 No.757054
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Its funny to see that faggots (mainly nousagis) somehow feel threatened by Gura and do everything what it takes to make up shit that helps them cope with the reality that Pekora is not the most popular holo on the planet right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:40:53 2021 No.757494 >>702506 How come she wasn't in the Hololive Alternative PV despite being by far the biggest one in sub count? I get the respect for senpais inherent to jap culture, but its still weird to not include her at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:41:08 2021 No.757498 >>745291 Destroyed every single argument with a single post

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:41:21 2021 No.757505 File: 615 KB, 2602x4093, 1606983175666.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Numberfag thread turns into Size thread Incredibly based Also, I desperately need Mori size art. She's perfect for it.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:42:21 2021 No.757526
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>>745610
>See the timezone issue
Gura already tried streaming at an earlier timezone and she got 17,000 viewers which is worse than her usual
numbers. The timezone cope failed already and you've never been able to salvage it.
>VOD views
See >>744552 (Bringing up VODs only makes Gura's sub to viewer ratio look bad, there is no reliable indicator on how much of her fanbase has adblock rendering VODs useless, she has a global audience because she speaks English unlike other Holos, unless you can refute these her imaginary VOD revenue that you can't calculate doesn't matter)
>stop ignoring the point
It literally happened. She streamed at earlier hours and got worse numbers. That's just reality. Why are you denying reality just for your headcanon? You're losing credibility with every post because you're denying the truth and making shit up.
>community tag
Oh okay, so Gura has a bigger tag. I don't see how that translates to fans though? If that is the ultimate metric (which you have failed countless times to prove) surely Gura would be having a better sub to viewer ratio, would be getting more live watchers everytime she streams, would be getting more sc revenue, would be getting more fanart. But that ultimate metric seems to not affect much, just like how her 2 million subscribers is just an empty facade and her real active sub count is much lower, the tags don't seem to do much.
>millions of people are aware of her
Yet 13,000 out of 2.24 million were watching and she doesn't even have the highest sc earnings. Her fans don't seem to want to watch or paypig for her as much as other Holos. It's almost like she lacks the charisma and all your metrics don't even matter.
>Come to terms with it
You're the one denying an event that actually happened (her streaming at an earlier timezone). So yeah, reality always wins. I've smashed every type of cope you brought in and I'm ready for more. Bring in more excuses, go ahead.

>>756791
Gura's high end on VOD views are around 800k (with some rare 1 millions) and that's with her 2 million+ subscribers. Pekora and Korone also sometimes get 1 million VOD views though their usual high end are around 600-800k. You're forgetting the fact that this actually makes Pekora and Korone look better because despite them having pretty much a million less subscribers, they're still getting numbers on par with a 2 million Holo. Pekora has a video that has 8.5 million views. Gura's highest viewed video is only 3.2 million. Korone's most popular video has 4.8 million views. Also, Korone and Pekora do this at a disadvantage. They don't have as much of a wider audience as Gura because they only speak Japanese. I find it hilarious you're actually making Gura look worse instead of better.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:44:02 2021 No.757559

>>757494
Because she's a freakish anomaly and no one thinks about her dumb ass beyond "Wow cute shark, your number is big, good for you". She barely feels like part of the company and none of her success is real. The ID branch would feel more at home in that PV.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:48:54 2021 No.757671 >>757494 >biggest one in sub count Because dead subs. Her actual live sub count is nothing special.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:49:13 2021 No.757683 >>702787 TINY LUIGI MAN

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:53:27 2021 No.757788 >>745291 you win >>745351 you lose

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:55:13 2021 No.757827 >>757559 It's really not her fault that she's not fluent in japanese and can't integrate as well with the main JP members. I'm sure if she was a regular in JP collabs you'd be all for her being in the PV.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 11:00:48 2021 No.757941 >>746360 Clips and streams gap moe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 11:07:52 2021 No.758102 File: 3.93 MB, 1600x2384, d8b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>757505 There doesn't seam to be much

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>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 12:00:32 2021 No.759309 >>708559 good

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 12:05:12 2021 No.759412 >>734261 same

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 12:10:00 2021 No.759521 >>744454 >newfags that started watching hololive after EN's debut peko would still keep winning without the help of the whole EN. more like the EN's success is part from the whole JP including peko.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 12:14:16 2021 No.759633 why isnt there a Giantess Vtuber yet

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 13:13:06 2021 No.761024 >>703034 Giant Gura plz step on me

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 13:33:00 2021 No.761519 >>759633 Because it's a shit, niche fetish for fucking creeps.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 13:33:03 2021 No.761520 >>717692 more like 25

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 13:34:16 2021 No.761544 >>729832 Just be glad you don't have it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 13:35:21 2021 No.761571 >>746561 28437563885738492384785763859

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 13:44:21 2021 No.761798 >>702506 Suisei, Sora, and Mio are middle of the pack jobbers, makes me sad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 13:54:27 2021 No.761965 File: 277 KB, 2597x1623, __gawr_gura_hololive_and_1_more_drawn_by_kairunoburogu__097d4333dfb7340475450489bda25b2f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>761024 but then you'll catch the foot pneumonia

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 14:48:52 2021 No.763241 Why are Gurafags such huge numberfags? I like Gura and think she's hilarious, but all discussion I see of her is how many numbers she's getting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 14:49:36 2021 No.763255 >>702506 Management is doing that better than we can

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 14:56:33 2021 No.763436 >>744454 The retard thinks japanese people dont see Gura, pls stop embarassing yourself

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 15:06:32 2021 No.763795 >>757683 Has anyone made fanart of that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 15:10:55 2021 No.763941 >>763241 That's literally what the antis are doing, seething over numbers >high number of subs = shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 15:19:09 2021 No.764177 >>718493 >roberu the perfect height to stick face in anya's anya

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 15:33:26 2021 No.764613 >>702698 based coco making gura changs seethe.

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