Do Better

[Anonymous No.]

Says a lot when an indie surpassed almost the entire latest gen except the viral one.

This the best HoloEN can do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
sick burn.

[Anonymous No.]

shots fired

[Anonymous No.]

go jump the building next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
600k drama obsessed normalfags who actually hate vtubing and the culture surrounding it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Sisters, are you trying to bait Holo fans to attack Doki? Nobody is buying it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
And it only took her two suicide attempts. What won't people do for their fifteen minutes of fame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
shiroi...

[Anonymous No.]

I wish growth and success to all of them :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>unichuds betrayed the last bastion of soul hololive advent for the dramabird
Too funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716206
>hating nijisanji = hating vtubing
nice try sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Good for her but this isn't a competition and dog eat dog culture like Nijisanji so I don't know why you even brought it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
sorry but there's no bullying in HoloEN to get the pity subs so...

wait for Pero to speak out.

>>69716216
they can't stand that hololive is just chillin and wants them to join their shitty ass dramas.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to fuck FWMC

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716206
>>69716241

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>Pity subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Good bait. Have a (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
she set Nijien on fire. I'll allow this

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
I'm quickly getting sick of dokifags

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Nijinigger deflection thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Knowing their personalities, the Advent girls are all happy to see someone who survived two suicide attempts become a successful indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>all these anons falling for an obvious NijiEN falseflag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Niji EN in shambles right now, she is excused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Hope nijifags and doki fags kill each other off

[Anonymous No.]

I am glad advent is streaming drama free and Doki is free of kurosanji. She had 800k so it's only natural the old subs and new people appear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922

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>>69715922
Dokibird is just more interesting than Advent, including Fuwamoco who are just white noise after you get past the initial honeymoon phase. She'll pass them in a few days too.
In the end, brand recognition can't surpass true talent. Glad people other than me are recognizing that now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716364
there's still normies and newfags on the "all corpo bad" train after seeing the fallout of the drama
then there's outsiders just seeing this drama now have a sort of justifiable reason to shit on the hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716390
That is nijisanji culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716613
This.
except Fuwawa. Other people's suffering brings her joy

[Anonymous No.]

it's gotten so bad for nijisisters they're badly falseflagging as dragoons now

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
:D

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716527
Yeah, because this was obviously a dragoon and not at all a shitstirrer.

[Anonymous No.]

>mobilized the entire mainstream youtube to be her defense force
>barely passed an autistic kid who can't spell words right
I mean good for her I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Calling doki an indie is unfair to actual indies. Yes she might not longer work for a jp Corp but Doki is essentially her own corpo and brand at this point. Tell me which indies you know are being supported as much as her by fans and getting all sorts of sponsorships without being signed to a talent agency like mythic.

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>>69715922
Didn't Doki had a Collab with Nerissa before the niji fallout? Hopefully she manages to get another Collab with her and both can have a nice stream together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>Sisters so desperate to get something to work they try to falseflag as doki fans attacking hololive
it's amusing watching you sisters flailing around trying to get something to work.

[Anonymous No.]

Man adventfags are seething huh
So much for golden gen...in the end the only golden gen was Myth and they're expired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
I don't think you'll manage to pit holofans against Dokibird with such weak bait. Not even the number fagging ones.

Remember your herbs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716346
>dramabird

[Anonymous No.]

>>69717016
worry about your dying branch sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716346
But I never betrayed my oshi who was there before advent. Fuck you on about, sis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716978
nah she was supposed to be in the lethal company collab but she never made it to it.

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>>69715922
I know this is bait probably from sisters trying to start a Holo vs Doki shit but first most of the followers are her former fans and second it's great she's successful, she went through shit and deserves the love.
Second this isn't a race and they are growing steady unlike the Nijis who at the moment probably need to resort to some botting to stop bleeding because they can't stop fucking up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
False flag, not happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716328
wholesomely based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>>69716002
NDF deflection KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
NYPA, nijikek. I'm too busy enjoying Holo streams to wheelbarrow not-selen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Nijisister deflection threads are really hitting rock bottom now. Having to drag Holo into it to try to get the heat off of Niji... not gonna work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
I mean come on, most of her subbed are from people who want to show support to doki by subbing. And yeah she deserves it. Over time her average ccv per stream is probably gonna decrease when this whole drama actually dies down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>All it took for Niji to beat Hololive was tanking the entire branch and becoming the enemy of all vtubing in the west.
Sasuga Riku-sama!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716698
Elira still leaking subscribers...I'd feel bad for her if it wasn't entirely her own doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716364
fuck niji, most of those are asmongold and critikal fans who dont like vtubers

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>>69716206
It's litterally just dragoons, she was over 800k before. it's been easy for everyone to follow her over because she's been completely transparent about it being her. Which should happen more desu, it's fucking stupid when a massive corpo streamer goes indie and can't even fucking talk about their last job...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716698
376k out of 12M is only 3% and EN is only a fraction of what JP brings in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69717207
can they do it now that she's doki? if not, what a wasted opportunity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
So she flying past all the Niji accounts is what you are telling me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69717016
>3/5
>golden gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
jesas she literally killed niggisanji for good, those are 600k brothers literally shittin on them hard, Rikku is going to fire the EN branch asap.

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>>69717862
>only 3% of 12M
12M includes dead subs, while the 3% loss is more likely to be from active subs, so the loss here is more significant that what bare numbers tell you

>only a fraction of what JP brings in
sure. you can even say it's negligible on a holistic sense, in terms raw numbers. but you can't deny the effect it has on company image perception.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716206
Yes.

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>>69717877
I mean they could, but I'm sure cover is waiting for all of it to blow over. Because unfortunately jp nijifags will harass cover talents who'll associate with her. Nijisanji painted doki as a bully and a traitor to jp fans, those insufferable fags will cause problems for them. If anything mumei would be the one that would be setting collabs with her, the fact she hasn't means either she isn't interested on doing it (unlikely) or as I mentioned cover is waiting for everyone to calm down in Japan to then allow their talent to collab with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
400k of them will be dead subs in 3 months

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>>69715922
HoloEN 4 is popular because they're Holo and entertaining. Dramabird is only popular because of all the drama she's caused and people want to see the yacht sink. Even Kiara alluded to the fact that you shouldn't get popular on just drama alone. Dramabird and her nijisister fans think they can ride out the storm and sustain the interest by keeping drama going at all costs. Some even think she will get picked up by another Corpo or make her own so they can take over and establish a new Nijisanji in exile. All the while pretending that they're not exactly the same talent and same fans as a few weeks ago.
Case in point: This thread. Her drama has nothing to do with Advent, yet here we are, niji dramasisters really can't stop themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69718738
>>69717886
Elira will win by the end of the year. Trust me.

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>>69718862
Kiara is just salty she's not the one receiving support and all that attention. Stop it. Doki is pulling 20k plus live viewers while Kiara still stuck between 4k-5k viewers. And you're acting like is doki fault that Nijisanji is such a shithole and a dumpster fire when in reality there wouldn't be any drama if those 3 retards Ike Vox and Elira hadn't pull their dicks out and piss on the wind.

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>>69718862
>Dramabird and her nijisister fans
anon... she's public enemy numero uno in the nijisister discord, didn't you know

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>>69718287
>can't deny the effect it has on company image perception
meh the public is dumb and will forget about it in time. fair-weather fans won't even see it in a few months. Even people /here/ are already starting to gripe about all the Niji coverage.

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>>69719162
maybe if kiara killed herself more people would watch her

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716868
Yeah they definitely weren't known for shitting the board up in their previous iteration or anything.

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>>69716346
What the fuck are you talking about? Unicorns who have done even the most basic rep would know not to unicorn for a single fucking member of Advent except Fwmc. As a unicorn I went into it very warily and I'm glad I did given what I learned about Shiori in particular. She would have destroyed me if I hadn't consciously avoided falling into her honeytrap. I would have died like an insect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69719435
lmao sisters are begging for mercy now

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Assvent didn't do as good as they expected

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>>69719162
People watch Kiara because she has a modicum of talent. Besides "ex" Nijisisters, Dramabird's only fans are just guys that want to watch a yacht burn.
>>69719311
I think you're stupid if you honestly believe that you can switch your "faction colors" and you're now a different person. You can't change a profile pic or a name and now you're somebody else. You're all the same people, you're all still shitters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69719489
Shiori is already pulling back on the GFE, I feel bad for people who fell into her trap

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>>69719446
I don't like Kiara but I wouldn't wish her death. That's going way too far anon. Chill brah it ain't that deep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69719633
>modicum of talent
the only cum she has is from ojisans and wrestlers

[Anonymous No.]

>>69719633
>faction colors
black is the absence of color

[Anonymous No.]

>>69717877
Probably not yet. I assume the best move for any corpos is to not involve themselves into drama, regardless of who they think is right. Cause they are still a business, and sales are important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Doki is a honorary holo

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>>69715922
>singlehandedly destroy niji
She deserved it, thank you for destroying the fucking cancer like Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716206
Are you really dumb enough to take that bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
i don't see you comparing her to the nijisanji talents she blazed through. IS THAT THE BEST NIJIEN CAN DO?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69719748
Nobody that has looked at this drama objectively sees it as niji vs non-niji. They all see it as a civil war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>holo vs holo
Ogey Nijinigger, I take the bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>69717862
>fraction of what JP brings in.
if you go by raw streaming and merch they're like 30% of their revenue in 2023

[Anonymous No.]

holo is a great home for ambitious and talented people but I respect doki wanting to stay indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
sister why don't you talk about nijiEN latest gen? says alot about your shitty corpo

[Anonymous No.]

You would never want to put yourself in a position where you gloat now when temporary factors favor your oshi, but in a year or two her career will be on life-support. I hope drama fans can make it that long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69720404
Didn't they beat armpiss in subs? And also I believe Victoria has more viewers than all the armpiss homos combined. I know it doesn't mean much but still

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>subscribed and watch all of them
well this is awkward...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69720657
Funny, you told me the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>No Nijisanji in comparison
Based, fuck those low tier Bullywhores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69719849
No she's not. Maybe honorary holostar but not hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716396
Rent free holofuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Unlike Nijisanji, Holo's a group effort, not a competition. I'll continue to watch my favorites whether they're at 400 views or 4 million.
Nice try though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69718862
I dunno anon. I think she's entertaining enough to stifle my adhd, and its also refreshing to watch a chuuba that isn't inundated by japanese corpo autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
I like them all, so get fucked fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>69718862
>HoloEN 4
>Dramabird and her nijisister fans
Here's your (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Tell her to attempt a third time so she can reach 1m subscribers also do you think we dont know what bait is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69720909
Who? But in all seriousness her drama barely registered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>Doki and Advent are accomplishing their dreams.
>Kurosanji continues to plummet to never return.
See nothing to complain about.

Dreams of a wonderful world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPA6DHgjch8

[Anonymous No.]

>>69720933
Do not wallow!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>"but what about hololive, huh?"
be less obvious LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>69723575
I thought this is Holoboard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69720740
Look, I get that you care a lot about numbers and revenue, but you can do better than trying to get a job in NijiEN management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Shiori got mogged over time huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>Normal gen vs one of the most dramatic events in vtubing history
Ui-mama earned 900k with her loli song, I'm surprised Selen is below 700k yet, besides dead subs don't matter, all of Advent easily mogs Ollie even though Ollie has the double of subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>janny is active right now but leaving this troll thread up
NDF falseflag thread confirmed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69724193
Make up your mind about jannies already if they aren't ndf then they're chumbuds when they aren't chumbuds then they're mori fans which is one is it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69724328
There’s more than one janny you stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716364
Unironically yes. Bullysanji is kino and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.

https://files.catbox.moe/s771mw.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

Ennacuck, don't resort to shitting up the catalog. Stay contained in # where we know to ignore you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
>Drama made her dead subs to resub to her new account.
>Drama went mainstream cause it was covered by big youtubers and twitch streamers. Pity subs galore.

Of course this would happen.

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>>69715922
I don't care who wins as long as Nijisanji loses.
I'll kiss Ironmouse's stunted feet if it brings Kurosanji down.
I'll drink Yuko's piss if it destroys Nijisanji.
I'll lick Pippa's moldy panties if it burns down down evey Niji organ to the ground.
I'll massage ever inch of Doki's doby if she sinks RIku's yatch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69724328
pippa niggers
and australians

[Anonymous No.]

>>69724418
But you just called them ndf Stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69724758
>Doki's doby

[Anonymous No.]

>>69716909
>but Doki is essentially her own corpo and brand at this point.
that's kinda the point of being an indie, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Yeah. It only took two suicide attempts

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
only niji en is run like a rat race, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>69715922
Desperate times call for desperate measures, huh sister? Dokibird is the herald of the Nijipocalypse. Holofags don't about her sub count - they're too busy laughing at the gigantic FUCK YOU she's giving Niji just by existing.