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69595558 No.69595558 [Reply] [Original]

Vivi drank the koolaid.

>> No.69595599

>>69595558
Well? Explain anon.

>> No.69595615

>>69595558
anyone with a spine isnt going to accept being called a bootlicker, what did you want her to say? I thought she was pretty based

>> No.69595678

>>69595558
In Nijisanji, the Koolaid eat you

>> No.69595682

if you tweet the exact same content as your coworkers, it looks like you have been instructed by the company to make this post and you are not sharing your own thoughts.

>> No.69595683

>>69595558
Holy was she always this based?

>> No.69595724

>>69595558
Shes chinese what do you think

>> No.69595733

>>69595682
she drew a cute picture though. maybe she wasn't instructed, saw them posting it, and doodled that to join in

>> No.69595742
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69595742

>>69595558
I pary for a fast termination

>> No.69595762
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69595762

>>69595558
op i'm sorry you got btfo but you should have seen this coming. stop making this gay post already

>> No.69595778

>>69595599
because all these dishonest shills said it at the exact same time? spurned by their black company, or allegiance to said company. it's not a hard or wrong conclusion to draw, especially considering that niji infamously treats fanartists like shit. I'm glad I saw this thread because I was actually starting to get interested in her, but I'll never watch one of her streams after this lmfao.

>> No.69595797
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69595797

So brave of her to stand up for small artists, hope her bosses can follow in her footsteps

>> No.69595812

Nahh she's based. Just because your company is a dumpster fire doesn't mean you should take everyone's BS constantly. She's not going anywhere else for a while after all.

>> No.69595811

>>69595558
owari da..

>> No.69595853

>>69595558
she was right about that fag, the problem is that fag was a sock puppet account created only hours ago and deleted.

>> No.69595880

>>69595812
I agree. Based Elira.

>> No.69595881

>>69595797
Yeah. It's be really nice to link to some of the stories from small artists to help out Niji's latest PR campaign.

>> No.69595893
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69595893

>>69595599
sure, here you go.

>> No.69595912

>>69595558
>dramaniggers when they deliberately crop webpages to shit to remove context

Doesn't beat the falseflag allegations tho.

>> No.69595913

>>69595558
BaronsVT, stop, you're just embarrassing yourself

>> No.69595934

People called Mori Calliope a lolcow for exerting the same behavior

>> No.69595941

>>69595733
i was simply explaining how she can be perceived as a bootlicker.
In times like this it is important to understand the context in which you are doing things, even when it has little to do with you.
for example, scheduling a stream at the same time as dokibird concerning her termination from the company you work for.
Regardless of intent, this is sure to cause emotional and psychological distress to the person in question, which makes you look like you are simply trying to harass and bully that person.

>> No.69595962
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69595962

>>69595912 (Me)

Forgot pic

>> No.69595979

>>69595558
>people within your own company bully a senpai almost to death
silence
>some rando pagpag selling unlicensed merch is queried about supporting said harassers
She speaks out on this instead

holy fuck

>> No.69596010

>>69595558
I just see her being based

>> No.69596050

>Nijisissies calling this based
yeah nice astroturfed narrative

>> No.69596065

>>69595962
Is this OP? Lmao

>> No.69596082

>>69595893
>Brain and behaviour research
Sisters! Your cure!

>> No.69596104

>>69595558
kek
BASED

>> No.69596126

>>69595962
This confirms she really was assaulted by hater here and she completely roasted him. This excuses her in my opinion, contrary to all the other niji ENs who are obviously fake.

>> No.69596137

>>69595941
are you the guy? rumao

>> No.69596150

>nijinstigators trying to stir up a fight over nothing from both sides
transparent af

>> No.69596157

>>69595558
I mean, it was an appropriate answer to a random twitter asshole, so good for her. Still, she didn't say anything when selen was being harassed, so fuck her.

>> No.69596155

>>69595962
is that the barons accout ppl in the other thread were saying didn't even exist before yesterday?

>> No.69596160

>>69596065
It was probably Enna farming pity.
>make new account (it was 1 day old)
>attack the coworker that has saviorfags remaining
>get "dunked on"
>delete account.

>> No.69596235
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69596235

>Board loves Vivi
>Start a narrative so she seems like she supports Niji
>Make a fake account to flame her and get BTFO
>Spam it everywhere
>BASED BASED BASED also she loves Nijisanji BASED BASED BASED

>> No.69596236

>>69595962
Vivi my love

>> No.69596247

>>69596126
She fell for a bait account bro

>> No.69596248

>>69595941
>gets roasted on twitter
>runs back to 4chan to cry
LMAO
Next time don't mess with Vivi and go for actually bad talents.

>> No.69596257

>>69595558
I can imagine vivi's replies being filled with teenage girls going "yaas queen slay" and they'll be mainstay of her audience from now on.

>> No.69596279

>>69596157
They would maul her alive if she did while under contract.
That's why she should have kept a lower profile, to not anger either side.

>> No.69596280

Remember when she retweeted Elira's black screen stream and people were coping about management skinwalking her account?

>> No.69596285
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69596285

>>69595941
get fucked you dramanigger
imagine get btfo'd by 2D woman

>> No.69596310

>>69596247
I wouldn't say she fell for it. She made example out of him, for everyone to see. She's very good at tarwrangling her community.

>> No.69596318

There's nothing you gain from replying to randoms on twitter
Sick moral victory when youre still a spineless shill

>> No.69596324

>>69596160
Enna is a genius, now Vivi has to join the clique!

>> No.69596331

>>69596137
no. I dont use buzzwords to randomly attack people on fucking twitter. thats retarded. I'm just trying to put that guys thoughts into an understandable context, that he lacked the brain to present.
I like Vivi but as long as the company is what it is and has not apologized in any form for making an ex-employee feel like killing herself, regardless of their intent, I dont think I can support it in any form.
It's only humane to apologize for causing someone else distress like that, regardless of your intent or what you think the severity of your actions was.

>> No.69596333

>>69595558
>and anons were actually feeling pity for her before

>> No.69596339

>>69595962
The guy deleted his account too

>> No.69596358

>>69596257
She's not afraid of banning idiots in chat, don't worry.

>> No.69596364

>>69596126
>assaulted

>> No.69596376
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69596376

ITT: Seething Dramanigger that get btfo'd by 2D woman

>> No.69596377

>>69596248
NTA but I promoted /TTT/ as a safe space to false flag a sense of normalcy /here/. Everyone still hates Njiji just had to stop you fuckers from hiding and let you show your true colours. Its Black btw.

>> No.69596386

Nice try PR team, but we're still crashing the anycolor plane

with no survivors!

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>>69596339
That way we can't see that it had literally no posts before this
Wowee

>> No.69596436

>>69596137
>>69596248
>>69596285

>>69595941 is clearly explaining >>69595682
is it that hard to figure out because it looks different than reddit?

>> No.69596445

>>69595893
Oh?! As an artist, i suddenly am interested and compassionate t'word's NijisanjiEN™

>> No.69596470

>>69595558
RIP you didn't save her anon, now she is picking fights. Now you will have the "yass queen" crow who will enable her, people will find her insuferable soon enought.

>> No.69596501

>>69596331
That's fair then. But well Vivi was the worst one to choose from to attack. She's new in Niji EN, she's not responsible for all the damage clique has done. She joined to stream and have fun but did so at worst time possible. Unlucky. not much that can be done about it though so she just wants to make the best out of shitty situation she's in. I expect she will dip out of Niji EN once her contract ends and she has bigger fanbase, unless the company miraculously saves itself.

>> No.69596502

>>69596235
Damn, Elira truly is heartless, throwing her kouhai to the wolves like that

>> No.69596529
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>>69596436
couldn't care less
dramanigger btfo'd

>> No.69596535

>niji bootlickers iTT
absolutely grim

>> No.69596550

>>69595893
lol at least try explain why you believe that like this anon >>69595778 rather than being a reposting drone

>> No.69596558

>>69595558
Imagine getting BTFO'd by a female vtuber, so that you had to block and then delete your account, absolutely pathetic.
Still, all and every one of remaining NijiEN deserves to burn alive, so that doesn't make her look in my eyes.

>> No.69596564

>>69595853
BaronsVT why are you like this? People like you make me want to ruin your life because of how stupid you are. It's like you stick a target mark on your back wherever you go. Even the anon nature of 4chan can't even hide your fucking identity you useless piece of shit. Why are you so retard? You should have died years ago in your mom pussy

>> No.69596592

>>69596436
you're free to return to reddit since you seem sofamiliar with it

>> No.69596608

>>69595682
By exact same content you mean reacting to news spreading within their community about an artist making Nijisanji fanart getting harassed. That's how all news works, retard. Something happens, word spreads, and people respond to it. Did you also think dramatubers were instructed to make videos about Selen's termination because they all decided to shit out videos when they heard about it? No, you obviously didn't because you understand how this works, but don't want to in this case because "Nijisanji bad"

>> No.69596634

Is that BaronVT guy even real ?

>> No.69596636

Western vtubers were a mistake. Both vtubers and fans don't even need vtubing anymore.

>> No.69596641

>>69596558
See >>69596235

>> No.69596657

>>69596535
You're getting desperate, little bug.

>> No.69596675

>>69595558
At this point I just assume that everyone still working for Nijisanji is a corporate mouthpiece that's being puppeted by management. You really can't trust anything they say until they actually leave the company.

>> No.69596717

>>69596634
It only had 2 followers and 5 follows so it was 100% a new account only made to shill Niji

>> No.69596747

>>69595558
Holy based

>> No.69596763

>explain to me how participating in a pre-orchestrated PR maneuver to try and rehabilitate the public image of a corporation that almost drove a talent to suicide and kept going makes me a corporate bootlicker
Is she retarded or just evil?

>> No.69596784

>>69596502
I said it before and I'll say it again. The Clique is going to try and make everyone still in Nijisanji pariahs so they can never leave and become Kuro&Mata/Doki 2.0. Burn the pastures down before anyone can leave for them

>> No.69596819

>>69595558
Kinda sad to see her like this but at the same time , she didn't have to address a random nobody.

This is the problem with niji, just stay low.

>> No.69596821

>>69595558
>first post in the chain is "we love artists"
>that was posted at the same time as a bunch of other niji talent saying "we love artists"
Correct, she's a corporate bootlicker. I can't believe she actually enjoys the fact that her oshi was pushed to suicide.

>> No.69596848

>>69596763
sadly looks like most people are gobbling it up outside of /here/

>> No.69596869

>>69596717
Funny how she pick out that one troll who would block her then delete his literal anonymous account. Weakest troll I have ever seen

>> No.69596884

>>69596608
This is how it works when you haven't burnt all your goodwill, yeah.

>> No.69596886

using fake account to get some uppity lmao

>> No.69596896

>>69596848
Owning a sock account is how low the bar is
Thats really sad

>> No.69596927

>>69595778
>said it at the exact same time
Because an artist got harassed at a convention and the word spread far enough to get to them. Holy shit you drama trannies were not born with a brain.

>> No.69596956

>>69595558
> our organs spar with literal whos in the internet.
> this is a good thing.

>> No.69596971

>>69596848
sisters are swarming it, no normal person would buy it, only the diehard niji fans

>> No.69596994

>>69596927
Harassed?
Some people making comments as they walk by isnt harassment

>> No.69597040

>>69595962
>>69596339
Vivi I fucking kneel

>> No.69597044

>>69596927
Nice joke!

>> No.69597054

>>69595682
>It's okay when Watame, Lamy, Flare, and Okayu do it!

>> No.69597062
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>>69596339
ofc he did, he served his purpose

>> No.69597070

>>69596763
both
but sisters don't understand the concept of straw manning so they eat it up

>> No.69597073

>>69596994
Person walking by at a small local convention making a comment is very VERY serious
Bullying a talent until they end up in hospital? Not worth mentioning

>> No.69597089

>>69595558
Nice. made me happy, made me smile, nice

>> No.69597108

Why do Nijiniggers keep parading this person?

>> No.69597109

>>69597054
Yes because that's not their entire division

>> No.69597122

>>69597062
>could this be an account created to antipost at vtubers without getting flak on main? no, it must be a nijisanji conspiracy
We need some more Q, uh, I mean LK breadcrumbs to get to the bottom of this one

>> No.69597155

>>69596641
>Board loves Vivi
Does it though? I had the impression that currently the narrative is mixed at best. Also, she retweeted that Elira stream, meaning that she agrees with what she said, so obviously she loves Nijisanji.

>> No.69597159

>>69597108
because BTFOD BY FEMALE VTUBER RUMAOOOOOOOO

>> No.69597164

>>69596927
Oh my God that's harassment? Comments while walking by? I guess they are fully admitting to harassing Selen then. No? Oh, so it's all manufactured fake support, got it.

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69597172

>>69596869
>Funny how she pick out that one troll who would block her then delete his literal anonymous account.
Definitely a Nijisanji psyop

>> No.69597210

>>69597062
oh I see, it wasnt even a real interaction but a fabricated one to spread on 4chins.
I guess apologizing to dokibird for making her want to kill herself is harder than making sockpuppets and more expensive than paying a shitty PR team that has strategies so transparent its impossible to not see through them.
in which case I think you should kill yourself Elira, Enna, Millie and Vox for good measure. You seem to be horrible human beings.

>> No.69597238

>>69596927
Nijisissy

>> No.69597240

>>69595558
now im trying to think of any random buzzwords ive learned this week

>> No.69597255

>>69597122
>could this be an account created to antipost at vtubers without getting flak on main
Then there are literally no reason to delete it or block anyone on the account

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>>69596927
>an artist

>> No.69597263

>>69597155
>Does it though?
compared to the other members? ye
but looking at how she think that replying to the guy was a good idea, am having mixed feelings.

Like srsly, the talents there just needs to stay low and just walk away from any bait/drama.

>> No.69597313

>>69597062
Then why don't you get on there on main and own her with the real facts and logic?

>> No.69597324

>>69595962
She is such bully, glad that doki left that shitty place

>> No.69597329

>>69596927
>Because an artist got harassed
In Vox's opinion, that's not harassment.

>> No.69597330

>>69597263
>but looking at how she think that replying to the guy was a good idea, am having mixed feelings.
I mean, she made the "read the room" comment too. It's just the way she is. Generally nice but doesn't mess around when someone starts shit.

>> No.69597331

>>69595812
Frfr sister

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>>69597122
Yes a troll would block the one they're trolling then delete their account instead of just throwing more oil on the fire

>> No.69597401

>>69597062
While possible, it doesn't exactly prove it was a sockpuppet account. Could have simply been a normal hater who got scared of niji sisters harassing him after knowing how retarded and vicious they are.

>> No.69597410
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69597410

>literally woke up to this mess of some PR offensive by Nijisanji
>remember pic related
What the actual fuck. Please do not tell me this campaign is the "grassroots" astroturfing that they thought up about during their Discord discussions to try and use to turn sentiment around. I can't believe that this not only is getting signed off but they are also dragging unrelated and untarnished members into helping with this through the mud. Someone please fucking save this cute Chinese hag.

>> No.69597413

>sisters doing damage control iTT
grim

>> No.69597492

>>69595934
Yes but pink woman bad

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69597493

>>69597410
oh no no no Nijisissies not like this

>> No.69597494

>>69595558
Vivi has to stay there for months at the very least, cut her some slack.

>> No.69597501

hoglen shouldve killed herself

>> No.69597515

>>69597172
BaronVT(totally real account)
>26 posts
>5 following
>2 followers
and Vivi need to be added to the list of Niji fuckups

>> No.69597529

>>69597401
this along with the maegixx / mae thread going on, I disagree, this smells of manufactured shit, suddenly all niji talents launch a campaign saying they support fanartist, where was that support when they send wrong NDAs on purpose to not pay them?

>> No.69597548

>>69597515
its not vivis fault they didnt brief her.

>> No.69597564

>>69597410
Already started with the og 39 iq who got creamed by lawyer grifter

>> No.69597586

>>69597313
I didn't reply to Vivi because I don't want to bother her, she's mostly nice despite this. I did reply to another organ (more reasonably than calling them a bootlicker out of nowhere) and it got zero engagement.
NDF isn't going to respond to facts and logic. They're going to do what they did here: cherrypick the dumbest retard (who may or may not be a falseflag) and shit on them.

>> No.69597588

>>69595558
because you had to be told by your company to show support for them? kek

>> No.69597625

>>69597529
The best counter to this would be to spread screenshots of the small fanartists that vouched for Selen during her termination with the same "Thank you Artists" platitude.

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69597697

>>69597529
>suddenly all niji talents launch a campaign saying they support fanartist, where was that support when they send wrong NDAs on purpose to not pay them?
I mean that's perfectly normal for them. I don't read much into that garbage. Vivi at least put in effort into making a cute drawing herself which is perfectly in character for her other tweets, very different from other organs who are normally bitches but fake positivity today.

>> No.69597704

>>69597410
The rrats were once again to nobody's surprise right.

>> No.69597749

>>69597410
Those retards have been shitposting on this board to influence public perception for years.

>> No.69597775

>>69597401
>scared of harassment on a less than 1 day old throwaway account with no information on it created ostensibly for the purpose of anonymous shitposting
it doesn't make sense.

>> No.69597783

>>69597155
She was effectively the darling of the remaining talents, being from the most recent gen in October, her Oshis being Pomu and Selen, and coming off as a nerdy sweet hag. A victim of a contract she was bound to for a year
But then this happens.

>> No.69597855

>>69597783
Kek she got into niji so she can get some work for her contractor friends in the FGC dont fool yourself

>> No.69597869

>>69597401
I have a twitter account from 2015 and it doesn't show up on google and obviously isn't archived on wayback because I'm just some nobody. All you'd need to have no references on twitter is just never get replied to on twitter, which is easier than you'd think, so honestly it could go either way, it's not definitive proof of anything.
Unless someone happened to screencap when that guy joined twitter.

>> No.69597886

>>69595558
Only thanks..?
Not pay the artist..???

>> No.69597894

Their are no good Niji Livers. You faggots need to stop coping and realize they'll sell anyone and everyone to keep their precious 2%

>> No.69597899

>>69597783
I don't think this is going to damage her /here/ reputation long-term anyway. Personally I'm more disappointed in her retweeting the smear stream (even if it was done under duress) than this.

>> No.69597909

>>69597783
>Niji held her at gunpoint because people thought she was harmless
Sasuga Kurosanji

>> No.69597917

>>69597494
No, no slack for anyone who remains in the company, nor anyone who doesn't denounce the bullying of they have left the company.

>> No.69597926

>>69597855
Sorry I'm not caught up on pl stuff, what do you mean?

>> No.69597942

many steambucks distributed for this thread desu

>> No.69597944

I know Nijisanji is retarded but are they retarded enough to orchestrate a fake event between each others to "own" the hate-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2XZDyi7Vs
Oh... oh...

>> No.69597957

>>69597869
Yeah I think so too. it's weird how people are instantly running with the narrative of account being less than one day old without having actual proof of it. I get the desire of dunking on Niji EN but there's a lot of wishful thinking here.

>> No.69598026

>>69597783
I don't think she's necessarily in the wrong, I think someone came at her with a sock puppet saying retarded things and she attacked it in a justified manner. Might not have even been the company, might have been independent falseflagging by the rentry bitch aka the merch bitch.

>> No.69598054

>>69597869
Counter point, I am also a small af account yet I found myself in Google.

>> No.69598064

>More damage control
Grim
>More damage control
Grim
>More damage control
Grim

>> No.69598091

>>69597944
Man, what a dumpster fire that was.

>> No.69598089

>>69598054
That's not a counterpoint anon. Just because you can find yourself doesn't mean you can find everyone.

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>>69597957
clearly not a set up to make it as fans of doki are haters

this shit stinks and it glows

>> No.69598176

>>69597944
On all the art threads popping up, you also see some random calls to attack the artist saying that they were maegixx (While the artist is indeed extremely fragile, people asking for a hate brigade is ?). Isn't it interesting that something similar happened with the rrat threads (Celine)?
I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to incite retards who would actually attack the artist and use that for more pity points.

>> No.69598178

>>69598026
Obviously you shouldn't back down but if she genuinely did not know it was a sock puppet then she willingly engaged in bullying off Twitter it's a bad look when people are still looking at your brand for bullying your Oshi to near suicide.

>> No.69598181

She's playing the long game to infiltrate niji even deeper and get close to Riku before killing him. Chinese diaspora never forgives.

>> No.69598198

>>69595893
I wonder if this is why Gura is so burnt out. Having to pay for the tens of thousands of fanart made of you every week is very taxing. Then there was that time with Ina’s back probably left her bankrupt

>> No.69598200

>>69598026
That seems far more likely.

>>69598117
You posted this already. >>69597172 Your point?

>> No.69598218

>>69595724
Is she actually? (I dont watch her)

>> No.69598255

>>69596927
>Got harassed
LMAO CUSTOMERS JUST DIDNT WANT THEIR MERCH FAGGOT

>> No.69598286

>>69595558
Vivi is a whore and deleted Selens VODS!

>> No.69598299

>>69598200
>That seems far more likely.
Why would someone nuke their account over that
It doesn't make sense

>> No.69598301

>>69597062
>anon discovers what burner accounts are for the very first time and is astounded

>> No.69598302

>>69598178
>she willingly engaged in bullying
Retard. She simply told random hater off. That can't be classified as bullying in any shape or form.

>a bad look when people are still looking at your brand for bullying your Oshi to near suicide
You're grasping harder than sisters do at this point.

>> No.69598319

>>69595558
This is the third time you shat up the catalogue with this. The first to time, we all shat on you in return for malding about getting blocked by your imaginary gf, now you were apparently smart enough to cut out the context of your interaction. Once a pussy who deleted their account because of a call out, always a pussy.

>> No.69598344

>>69598218
She's Hong Kong Chinese, so not full Bugman Bejing

>> No.69598380

>>69598299
People nuke their accounts all the time over something like that. Lurk more. It's incredibly common. Guy was feeling tough but turned out to be all bark no bite and hid in shame.

>> No.69598428

>>69598380
>It's incredibly common.
Lol
No it isn't

>> No.69598443

>>69595962
That is a nothingburger then, idiot talked shit and got pushed back. Good on her for BTFO'ing Twittertards.

>> No.69598453

>>69595558
Et tu, Vivi?

>> No.69598461

>>69598428
Lmao
It is.

>> No.69598549

>>69597401
>Makes account specifically to attack someone
>Blocks the target
Yeah that totally makes sense, gotta shut down when you get backlash on the account made to absorb backlash

>> No.69598558

>>69598299
Check out any twitter drama. Personalities always complain about getting hate from random accounts which mysteriously disappear soon after.

>> No.69598569

>>69598461
Now answer me this
Why would she single out that single hate comment and put it on full blast?

>> No.69598676

>>69598569
Are you seriously this stupid? To show such behavior isn't acceptable, to make an example out of the faggot.
It was already covered in this thread, read the posts before repeating dumb questions.

>> No.69598694

>Create troll account to harass people.
>Literally have /vt/ in his name so you know his skin is thick
>Block them when they finally engage you
>Delete your anonymous account right after
This chain of event doesn't make any fucking sense

>> No.69598716

So alternate theory:

Someone posts about being made fun of a con because of some stickers she decides to sell of the believed to be worst offenders.

Niji needs a PR win post everything so they send out an email saying we should support the artists. Most can't be assed so they tell the PR team to do it. Vivi is new so she decides to do a cute doodle to support the artists. Since she's new someone decides she's the best person to attack. She gets offended by it since she actually meant it. Turns out it's a sockpuppet.

Reimu also seems to have posted something genuine.

>> No.69598743

>>69598549
Yes, it happens all the fucking time. Is this your first day in the internet?

>on the account made to absorb backlash
Retard.

>> No.69598754

>>69598569
to look empowered, brave, and based
btfo'd by female vtuber lmao!

>> No.69598755

>82 posters
>169 replies
Come on, this has to be the guy tilted about getting blocked trying to spin a narrative. Nijisanji is an incompetent shithole of a corpo, you guys honestly believe them to turn competent enough to pick out some irrelevant 2view or whatever to create a psyop? I doubt they even remember who the fuck Vivi is.

>> No.69598759

>>69598676
Are there any other examples of this?
Specifically of Vivi commenting on haters
Or is it an isolated incident because of this "artist love <3" corpo bullshit?

>> No.69598774

>>69598301
a very bad attempt at cleaning the public perception of a black company? no, I'm not astounded

>> No.69598781

Crazy how many of you care about Vivi and her tweets considering she gets like 300 viewers. You're not lying about supporting her if she dropped out of NijiEN, right?

>> No.69598794

>>69598117
>BPD Dramabird cucks harassing livers
Explain, fagoons

>> No.69598838

>>69595558
The NDF saw this board simp for Vivi like the retards they are and are trying to rally support behind her.
You're all idiots who fall for the simplest psyops.

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69598850

>>69598759
She's crass with idiots in general. She's heavy handed with banhammer in her own chat too.

>> No.69598855

>>69598755
>the guy tilted about getting blocked
you dont even understand the situation

>> No.69598862

>>69597944
People argue about when it was really, truly over for NijiEN but for me it was absolutely without a doubt this. Leaving it anonymous pulled every single member of the branch into it and dragged all of their names and livers were even having to make tweets and address it on stream swearing they weren't a part of it because of harassment, and Millie didn't give a fuck and just wrote a paragraph about her dead dog and "oh lol my bad" in her membership to atone. At least the discord leak put a face to their words, the GC stream painted the entire branch as /vt/-addicted maniacs. when it's really just the bad apples

>> No.69598891

>>69598794
Explain my dick in your mouth

>> No.69598902

>>69598838
You're a fucking moron. Support for Vivi doesn't translate to support for Nijisanji. If they really thought this strategy would work, they're as retarded as you are which is an achievement.
Vivi is based for telling the guy off but rest of Nijisanji is getting ridiculed for being fake. Both of these things can be true at the same time.

>> No.69598939

PsyOp or not, this made me unsub from the TTT girls. Pity, I was one of the few members the two girls had, but I'm sure now that they've appealed to the sister horde I'll quickly be replaced.

Either that, or the NDF sisters will continue to neglect their channels, and they'll remain 2 views with 500+ silent bots boosting their numbers.

Guess there really isn't a chuuba in Niji worth watching, huh?

>> No.69598941

>>69598781
I take that back.
She deserves to stay in Niji and I won't support her even if she leaves.

>> No.69598960

>>69598891
*schlorp schlorp* mhhhhhphghh *splurt splurt*

>> No.69598969

>>69598850
>Twitch chat
>Where the general public doesn't care
Lol
Lmao even

So there are no other tweets about it?
Then it's definitely a narrative being strung up by Niji

>> No.69599018

>>69597331
>posted from the philipines

>> No.69599043
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69599043

>>69597944
Any 4channers /here/?

>> No.69599047

>>69598838
>simplest
Dishonest fucktard. If Vivi's interaction was a psyop it would be much more sophisticated than anything Nijisanji EN did over past three years. Therefore Occam's razor declares it wasn't a psyop. Niji EN isn't mentally capable of thinking up something like that.

>> No.69599083

>niji doesn't pay artists so selen has to fork out her own cash
>"..."
>some nijifag gets laughed at while selling their niji merch
>#nijiENforartists #RidinWithBiden #joepedo

>> No.69599087

>>69598902
I concede both things can be true at the same time.
I don't like or support Vivi. That's all.

>> No.69599095

>>69595558
she got the call

>> No.69599122

>>69599047
>NijiEN isn't capable of coming up with something utterly retarded
oh okay

>> No.69599134

>>69597944
Was it ever confirmed who said what?

>> No.69599135

>>69598969
>So there are no other tweets about it?
Show me other tweets where she was attacked by some hater first if you're so stupid that you refuse to acknowledge anything outside of specifically twitter. She can't respond to what doesn't exist.

>> No.69599190

If she leaves on her Anniversary she's good
If she stays meaning she renewed her contract she's bad
Simple as.

>> No.69599228

>>69599135
>She can't respond to what doesn't exist.
Exactly.
Because Niji tries to hide it all
Except for THIS incident, and that's the problem

>> No.69599237

>>69599190
This is the way.

>> No.69599256

>>69599134
https://files.catbox.moe/3kh6i7.txt

>> No.69599260

>>69595558
Why does she talk like the people who are /here/?

>> No.69599262

>>69597869
He had VT in his name though. Why would he have that if he wasn't a vtuber? Would a real vtuber have a dedicated twitter account and not use it to promote themselves at all?

>> No.69599321

>>69595558
So then there’s just Scarle left on the not shit Niji list?

>> No.69599332

>>69598117
What is the source of that image? I think I first saw it pop up in Nijien General when anons in other threads were unable to find out who he was.
Is there a better one with his account creation date?

>> No.69599343

>>69599256
Cheers.

>> No.69599351

>>69599260
Most of them are /here/. She debuted recently so she hasn't let go of 4chan mannerisms yet. Calli kept responding to 4chan all the time in her first year but learned her lesson eventually.

>> No.69599382

>>69595558
NijiPR on the job

>> No.69599406

>>69598902
The problem was that the proof was in the pudding, she had one of the fastest recovering Youtube sub counts in the company and got outsized attention here and on Reddit to her plight and also had a successful Valentine's Day stream. I am not surprised if it was the case the company has set their eyes on her due to that and decided to try and drag her down with the rest of the company to bring itself up even a little bit. True, it could've been a real person and I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt that someone was that stupid but I would also not be surprised if it was a coordinated sockpuppet attack. At the end of the day, this is peanuts in terms of recovering PR compared to the hole NijiEN has dug. The only thing that would allow for a boost that is natural is getting a settlement and joint statement done with Doki herself. But given how much astroturfing on various things from friends of the livers to trying to spam clique threads and etc. the fact is that I wouldn't be surprised if that is a last resort option.

>> No.69599411

>>69599351
>Calli
Go back, newfag.

>> No.69599418

>>69595893
ok I changed my mind, she's a dumb bitch
truly nothing these nijiniggers do is genuine

>> No.69599423

>>69599332
It's probably made up by nijisisters seeking to create chaos. Retarded pagpags are eating it up as if it proved anything while in fact it doesn't.

>> No.69599463

>>69598716
It may be a sockpuppet or may not be (personally I'm not convinced, it doesn't need to be one for Niji to look retarded), but Vivi's clearly focusing on maintaining her own image as opposed to the company's judging by how she usually acts. See the minimal retweet for the black stream (which is obviously mandated as well so anyone saying she just shouldn't have done that isn't thinking) versus her putting effort in here then taking offense at the accusation and wanting to stick up for herself specifically in a way she tends to do. It suggests that corpo mandated or not she at least believes in that message, which itself is a harmless positive one. I trust Vivi, I do not trust Niji.

>> No.69599491

>>69598759
Over 13 hours ago, Vivi wrote a members post talking about how the recent events have her down, and she's been especially upset hearing about hate that fan artists are getting. For context, Vivi buys a shitton of fan merch of vtubers and has been pretty vocal with the few that have drawn her fan art. In her Tekken stream today, she mentioned several times about how 'disappointed' she feels about people harassing artists.
Whether that harassment was actually mean-spirited (or harassment at all) I doubt. But I 100% believe that Vivi was sincerely rustled about the subject. Even without a niji mandated/Liver orchestrated artist support campaign

>> No.69599498

>>69598838
TTT was designated a safe zone to see what NDF would do if they felt like the 'change' back to normal they were craving for occured. They shit posted everywhere even harder as 'retaliation'. Lol the sooner NijiEN's mass exodjs occurs the better.
LOOK at their PR mentality, they haven't improved at all.

>> No.69599503

>>69595558
You know every time you post this, it just makes more people agree with her. I suffer no Niji, but Vivi's the best of the (current) bunch.

>> No.69599521

>Just give me one EN Vtuber that is not corrupted by /here/
>*crickets*

>> No.69599545

did OP really get btfo so badly he made a thread and samefagged through half of it?

>> No.69599554

>>69599351
>first year
and her second year, and her third year

>> No.69599565

>>69599423
>Screenshot proof
>No no no it doesn't count
Then we can say that the screenshotted "proof" from Elira's video also doesn't count
Fucking retard

>> No.69599588

>>69599545
There’s a hundred and one posters itt anon.

>> No.69599590

>>69599521
So pure she couldn't survive the toxic enviornment...
>https://youtu.be/R8y1aWMlPOs?si=_HVCxsKNXI91Y09L

>> No.69599612

>>69599545
All 100 ips? All me
Everyone but me is a schizo btw

>> No.69599645

>>69599545
>did OP really get btfo
proof doko?

>> No.69599685

>>69599503
No, it just sussed out where her allegiance lies. Rosemi and Petra are the only ones people are undecided on at this stage. You have no clue how bad the internal yab is cooking. Nothing is going to save the branch by next week.

>> No.69599710

>>69599588
>>69599645
>60 seconds
hmm very interesting

>> No.69599723

>>69599545
I'm starting to think your posts are the samefags sister

>> No.69599722

>>69597122
>an anti account that deletes itself after one interaction
sister your reasoning capabilities?

>> No.69599729

>>69599256
wtf I believed in Pomu...

>> No.69599825

>>69599406
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised either way. And I don't think it's incriminating for her regardless of what the truth is. She just joined and wants to build her fanbase in peace but all this shit is going on and it's not possible to completely ignore it.
It's just annoying to see retards being so deadset on one dumb narrative without proper proof. It's fine to believe something, it's completely different to start sperging out at anyone who has slightly different opinion. It's not even about the rrat being aimed at Vivi, I just cringe when people become too tribal and stop using their brains.

>At the end of the day, this is peanuts in terms of recovering PR compared to the hole NijiEN has dug.
Yup, precisely this. People are claiming it's some psyop but reality is it won't achieve anything. The only way for Niji EN to "come back" would be total restructure coupled with a series of actual apologies - not just empty words but actions like reimbursing artists, admitting fault to unfair treatment of specific talents, coming to terms with Doki in a manner which is satisfying for her and so on. I don't believe this will happen however.

>>69599554
She's fine now. Doggos healed her.

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>>69599710
meds now

>> No.69599849

>>69599545
It's a discord raid judging by the replies you got

>> No.69599880

>>69599722
Impartiality and deduction is for evil incel cishet white men.

>> No.69599890

>>69599710
Cooldown is 60 seconds, but cooldown posts are always timestamped 61 seconds (or occasionally 62 seconds) after the first. So it's in fact impossible for posts that are exactly 60 seconds apart to be samefagging, unless the person switched to a different device or bought a pass.

>> No.69599903

>>69596884
>I won't take responsibility for my hypocrisy and I'll blame Niji for my own biases
Be a man and admit Niji being a black company doesn't justify the hate against all organs.

>> No.69599908

>>69599849
Yea these sisters keep raiding every thread to run their niji defense force its pretty sad

>> No.69599936

>>69599849
Yeah, Elira and co. should go back

>> No.69599956

>>69599565
>proof
What does it prove then you fucking retard? You posted your garbage screenshot twice already but still failed to point out what was is supposed to tell.

Your constant "proof proof" spam without any actual constructive thought accompanying it makes me feel like you're another one of nijiniggers. Same manner of speech and lack of ability to express itself.

>> No.69599986

>>69599545
That OP that got btfo is victoria herself...

>> No.69600013

hit ler

>> No.69600025
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>>69599710
Lol, Lmao >>69599826

>> No.69600030

>>69599903
But it doesn't help Vivi took up her sword for a disengous purpose to artificially spin artist sentiment by Niji PR. They just need to promise they will actually pay. Niji is not a poor fucking vtuber company and everyone forgets to mention that.

>> No.69600046

>>69599890
Nah it can happen. I know because I tried it in the past. But yes, most of the time it will be more than 60 seconds.

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>>69595962

>> No.69600064

>>69599685
>Petra
>with all those Elira and Millie collabs
doubt

>> No.69600066

>>69599956
Reading comprehension reps, retardchama

>> No.69600106

>>69600066
Certified sister. They always respond with "reading comprehension. Thanks for clearing it up, now I can safely ignore your zhang ass.

>> No.69600178

>>69600066
Yaaaaaaaas!
Sista SLAAAAY!

>> No.69600200
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>>69599826
Proves nothing

>> No.69600209

>>69599685
What, do you mean her allegiance to her fans? Damn anon you really got me there. There's a lot of reasons to condemn someone, that's not really one of them. At best, the dude was a fake account used to shitpost and at worst he's a massive faggot who got his feelings hurt.

>> No.69600214

>>69600106
nta but
>sister
>is against niji
you're definitely a bunch of tourists

>> No.69600237

>>69600200
>haha ur samefag
>proves that its not
>doesnt count
Everyone but you is the schizo btw

>> No.69600240

>>69600030
I think vivi has good reason to be upset about various things that don't have anything to do with the company. Fanartists don't deserve to be harassed. Not that there's any proof of that actually happening, that flip whore is just trying to stir up shit and none of what she described is in any way "harassment" or out of line.

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>>69600053
Sooo the account isn't 1 day old. I hope >>69596155
>>69596160
>>69597775
>>69596155
kill themselves now. That's the rule after being exposed for being wrong.

Especially this retarded nigger: >>69598117

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>>69595558
Riku made the last of the NijiEN hold outs take a loyalty pledge like Hitler did to the officer class after the 20 July 1944 plot.

Scale's on the firing line going: "Long live our sacred Nijisanji"

>> No.69600313

>>69600237
>>proves that its not
Except that didn't happen
No proof was provided
No amnesty was granted
Suck shit, bug

>> No.69600333

>>69597210
I really want to know who gets paid for shit like this... and how much, it seems so stupid and easy that I want to do it xD

>> No.69600400

>>69597210
Or it's a false flag of a false flag. An operation designed to appeal to rrat lovers and undermine the ashes that remain of niji legitimacy. On one hand I wouldn't put it past niji management to fall this low, on the other, I wouldn't put it past anons to do the same

>> No.69600467

>>69600400
yes anons orchestrated this with Vivi
gj you figured it out

>> No.69600473

Holy shit some of you tourists belong on Q threads. Riku has a bridge to sell you

>> No.69600476

>>69600301
It’s pretty obvious its a retarded anon from /here/ who decided to join Twitter amongst the news and forgot that if he talks shit directly he gets hit. Doki herself told people to leave them alone so it’s just some retarded dramanig, actual Dragoons have been respecting her wishes

>> No.69600482

>>69600400
woah woah woah
calm down there
that'd make it as if niji did ALL OF THIS just to discredit our certifiedd rrats

>> No.69600621

>>69595893
This is probably in response to a thread made by a fanartist who was allegedly harassed and bullied at a con for having NijiEN fanart. I hate kurosanji as much as the next guy here, but this doesn't seem malicious at all to me.

>> No.69600634

>>69600476
That seems to make most sense. Plot too elaborate for nijisanji but it definitely wasn't a real dragoon either.

>> No.69600633

>>69595558
>engaging with randos on twitter

When will people learn that engaging haters on social media is never a good look? It doesn't dissuade the haters, since it just shows that they can successfully get a rise out of you.

>> No.69600636

>>6960000

>> No.69600657

Two things can be true at once the OP can be a retarded faggot that actually got BTFO because of negative IQ.

Vivi could also have overplayed her hand at some grass roots initiative where niggersanji organs want to prop up some artists trying to pittyfag their nigger merch into pockets.

Organcord has a pinned message to thank artists and vague post about how any negative opinion of an agency is the real bullying. This way they can signal the virtue of supporting artists but notice how no direct sponsoring of artists or art is happening. No individual is assisted. Only niggersanji artists are the real hero.

Also I saw this but lost interest in it because Uki is always presented as the first poster in the artist support spam but crazy how at 11:58 PM 2/19 dokie makes the last edit to her artist appreciation auction. Then as if by some faggot magic Uki feels the need to thank niggersanji artists at 2:51 AM 2/20 but hey its a genuine grass roots effort there was definitely no corpo intent in it whatsoever. Selen fans just dont care about artists but nijis love to talk and do nothing.

>> No.69600662

>>69600634
hi fellow 4channer
anyone else /here/?

>> No.69600672

>>69598198
Noob question:
Why does someone need to pay for fanart?
If they're the one making, it means that it is all voluntary.

>> No.69600680

>>69600636
Yeah, there's a lot of tourists today

>> No.69600679

>>69600482
>that'd make it as if niji did ALL OF THIS just to discredit our certifiedd rrats
They would be willing to that. I'm not sure if they would be competent enough but they would definitely try. This board lives rent free in clique's heads.

>> No.69600722

>>69600633
T. yrone bitch

>> No.69600784

>>69600657
Yeah faggots like Uki and Enna are so fake it makes me sick. I don't mind showing support for artists but it comes off differently depending and who says it and how.

>> No.69600861

I love watching Nijisissies trying to manufacture consensus
Completely woman brained and artificial looking on 4chan of all places

>> No.69600917

Just popping in to say fuck artists
Most insufferable motherfuckers on the planet up there with tech bros
May they all starve

>> No.69600946

Her supporting artist is nothing new judging by her twitter profile.
What's strange is that she responded to a negative comment, she usually responds to positive ones.
Either way she's not wrong on what she said.

>> No.69600965

>>69600679
They already tried to discredit the rrats in rrat threads. Remember Celine? They tried to point to an unrelated account to try and get people to dogpile.

>> No.69601043

>>69600672
>Low views
>No fanart
Solution:
>Commission 'fanart'

>High views
>Lots of fanart
>Want to legally use fanart in your work
Solution:
>Buy usage rights for the fanart so the 'adoring fan' can't try and fuck you over later
Seriously, if they insist on giving it to you for free, and won't even accept a $1 payment for it, they just want to scam you.

>> No.69601060

>>69595962
dude got destroyed an absolutely could not handle it

>> No.69601088

>>69600946
Too bad it's not in good faith
Niji set it all up with Vivi and her gen being used for PR purposes
What a shame

>> No.69601147

Guys, I think I figured it out. The people spreading sockpuppet theory are actually clique and other nijiniggers. They noticed how Vivi is the only Niji EN with no dirt on her and it makes them angry /vt/ keeps shitting on Niji EN while wanting to save Vivi so they try to destroy her reputation here.
Peak woman behavior, gotta drag down anyone who doesn't look as terrible.

>> No.69601148

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the NijiEN discord war room right about now
These falseflag attempts are as hilarious as they are pathetic. The discussions they must be having on how to somehow improve their image and get the public back on side must be hysterical

>> No.69601168

>>69595962
She's based

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>>69600946
>Either way she's not wrong on what she said.
It is when all these other people said it too at the exact same moment
And its coming from some no-name artist that isnt even proven to be at the event

>> No.69601191

>>69601147
Based if true

>> No.69601231

>>69601168
How much discord nitro do you receive for every time you post "based"? What's the going rate for a sister these days?

>> No.69601236

Why are sisters coming in swarms with this? I haven't seen them concentrate their efforts and posts so much until now
I don't really believe that guy was a puppet, yet there was a clear coordinated response by niji to try and capitalize on the con artist getting sad they made a failed investment betting on niji
There are only two main active livers with some good faith till now being Scarle and Vivi, I feel it obvious they'd try and use her somehow and now there's thousands of sisters shouting she's based and niji is good again

>> No.69601244

>>69599825
>Yup, precisely this. People are claiming it's some psyop but reality is it won't achieve anything. The only way for Niji EN to "come back" would be total restructure coupled with a series of actual apologies - not just empty words but actions like reimbursing artists, admitting fault to unfair treatment of specific talents, coming to terms with Doki in a manner which is satisfying for her and so on. I don't believe this will happen however.

It seems like it should be too stupid to be some psyop, but Niji's PR team is clearly stupid. It's part of a general pattern of the company using Livers as human shields to deflect from criticism.

I'm sure they've been getting a lot of flack for not paying artists, so they're trying to use any talk about the nonpayment issue as "an attack on our Livers." Victoria was stupid to go along with this and should have done the absolute bare minimum to satisfy corporate.

>> No.69601266

>>69598694
>Literally have /vt/ in his name so you know his skin is thick
LMAO

>> No.69601282

Also considering that she’s apparently spent hundreds of dollars on merchandise anyone giving her shit about supporting artists would probably have known she would react like this.

>> No.69601289

>>69595558
She's right tho

>> No.69601299

>>69601236
Literal bots. Niji has form for using bots anyways

>> No.69601431

Holy shit. This thread is like that social media workshop I attended. It's fascinating how to see it in the wild.

>> No.69601435

>>69601289
See >>69601184

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>>69601431
>It's fascinating how to see it in the wild.

>> No.69601550

>>69601435
I don't get it
Vivi did nothing wrong

>> No.69601566

>>69601147
Maybe. The sockpuppet feels like such a nothingburger because it's some random twitter account nobody's heard of who immediately deleted.
There's no way of knowing how many levels of irony they were operating on, but the fact all they did was call her a bootlicker in response to what seems like a mandated PR post is also pretty tame trolling.

I think the wrong move is getting distracted by that guy, because the more glaring problem with this PR stunt is thanking artists when we all know Niji isn't good to artists.

>> No.69601610

>>69601184
>Sell Swastika flags
>People get mad and ask if you even know the controversy behind what Hitler did
>"t-that's irrelevant it's fanmerch not official, buying my nazi flag won't actually help fund Auschwitz"
""she"" isn't just a joke, ""she"" is the whole comedy club

>> No.69601618

>>69601550
Being a corpobootlicker is inherently wrong
Especially when the boot you're licking is Nijisanji's

>> No.69601645

>>69600621
Except they weren't harassed. People were just boycotting niji art.
It's like wondering why nobody wants to go to your middle east style restaurant after some people flew some planes into some buildings.

>> No.69601646

>>69601618
OP, it's time to stop.

>> No.69601764

>>69601043
Pretty sure Cover's fanart rules state that they can use w.e fanart they want. Don't need to pay.

>> No.69601774

>>69601645
Oh man, reminds me there was a store that had Isis in their name (It was Egyptian themed) and they had to change it to Horus lmao.

>> No.69601776

>>69601566
>I think the wrong move is getting distracted by that guy, because the more glaring problem with this PR stunt is thanking artists when we all know Niji isn't good to artists.
I agree. We have multiple examples of Selen's artists being ghosted by Nijisanji and also Yucky Wilson being a dick to artists who designed his fan mascot. Whole Niji EN verbally expressing support for artists now is very tone deaf when we don't really have many examples of them actually supporting the artist monetarily - except Vivi who is known to purchase merch of both Holos and Nijis which automatically puts her above others.

>> No.69601816

>>69600240
This is why it's so stupid for Niji PR to force livers to support this angle to get in the good books again. The issue is fucking pay. Professionalism and respect with the time invested by artists. Who gives a fuck of some fan that couldn't shill their stock at a con. Not actual artists except for those fervently attached to Niji. That's still not the fucking wider community.

>> No.69601874

>>69601776
Yeah, that's why the NDF is swarming about the deleted tweet of a literal who, because the wider context is really bad.

>> No.69601956

The catalog has become Qanon, holy mental retardation

>> No.69601999

>>69601776
This is a PR move by Niji to try to publicly discredit the artists who aren't getting paid by Niji, and also to discredit the people complaining about it.

It's a s dirtbag move by a dirtbag company, and I'm utterly unsurprised the Sisters are running around this thread giving the middle finger to artists who aren't getting paid.

>> No.69602070

>>69601645
>>69597257
This is the artist. So niji is actually paying artists now, just not for art but to run PR instead.

>> No.69602111

>>69600672
You generally don't unless you're a literal who or are commissioning something specific. If it's going to be used in some kind of commercial context (a raffle or official mv, like Walfie's Myth avatars) though, it's polite to say least ask first if not purchase the use outright. On the one hand yeah, the image the artist used belongs to whomever owns the IP, but on the other there's nothing to be gained by being an asshole and burning bridges with fans.

>> No.69602220
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69602220

>>69602070

>> No.69602272

>>69602070
>niji
>paying artists
lol

>> No.69602299

>>69599256
This is wrong. At minimum, canary is Millie. The new message banner on discord disappears whenever that person responds, and Millie streamed it, so she would be capturing her view.

>> No.69602341

>>69601956
DON'T LOOK INTO THINGS

>> No.69602347

>>69602070
I mean even if it is a true story with a real artist experiencing an actual boycott, what do you expect?
Especially since this is an emotionally charged transaction by default. People connect emotionally to art, that's why they enjoy it. Expecting a recent drama to have no impact on your sales is just really dumb.

>> No.69602356

>>69595558
Kek. Why these dumb bitches can't just hide/ignore those comments. Now she is done for.

>> No.69602429
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69602429

>Vivi posts a reasonable and somewhat based take on fanart and fanartists
>some possible sockpuppet calls her a bootlicker AND the clique in their trademark disingenuous manner repeat her take, knowing that showing their agreement with her (and knowing their current dogshit reputation) will drag her reputation through the mud
Either they got so brazen that they're showing their bullying out in the open, or i'm thoroughly confused about wtf is going on.

>> No.69602467

>>69601764
That's only if it's submitted to some sort of competition. They don't have rights to random fanart posted on twitter.

>> No.69602511

I imagine getting harassed over every innocuous twitter post they make probably isn’t convincing them to fight Niji. Attack the company all you want, but attacking the talents over nothing will just put them in defence mode, you’re not going to convince anybody in Niji like that.

>> No.69602519

I mean the guy replied before blocking and deleting his account I guess

https://files.catbox.moe/traq50.png

>> No.69602550

>>69602467
>They don't have rights to random fanart posted on twitter.
It's Cover's IP, they're literally allowed to use it under JP law

>> No.69602558

>>69602429
you forgot
>a lot of niji talents also tweet at the same time the same thing
which makes it look like skinwalking at worst and bootlicking at best.

>> No.69602637

>>69599343
>>69599729
You fell for trolling.

>>69599256
Can't believe someone is still reposting this obviously wrong garbage.

>> No.69602676

>>69602550
No dumbass, they own the IP, so the fanartist can't legally sell it as their own product or monetize (No patreon exclusivity etc), they would need perms from cover.

But Cover also can't use the fanart as if it was their own property. They'd need to get perms from the artist, it's just that as the ONLY company that can legally purchase the art, they choose the price. You can either accept the price, or not get paid. And if they say they aren't willing to pay at all, you can either allow them usage, or refuse it. But you still can't go sell it to someone else.

>> No.69602677

>>69602519
>Vivi is nitpicking and strawmanning instead of responding to the actual problems at hand
Actually grim
Niji is truly rotting her

>> No.69602690

>>69601610
Sorry to tell you anon, but people have a really hard time imagining themselves being wrong. As in taking the 5 seconds it takes to imagine that you might only be defending something because you are emotionally attached to it, and not because you should be defending it.

>> No.69602692

>>69602637
You are welcome to fix that "obviously wrong garbage"

>> No.69602746

>>69602519
Yeaaaa this is just a newfriend who hopped onto the Doki train because it blew up.

>> No.69602753

>>69602677
She isn't allowed to respond to that you retard.

>> No.69602844

>>69602753
Yeah, because she would be terminated
How unfortunate...

>> No.69602954

>>69601618
you still at it, BaronsVT?

>> No.69602960

>>69602746
That seems to be the case, but I do believe the rrat that he deleted his account after a few unsavoury nijisister/NDF dms and not the just because vivi replied.

>> No.69603007

>>69602746
Your company literally almost killed somewhere, and you're gonna sit there and make cutesy tweets about how you don't stand for abuse, while you stand there and let people be driven to suicide and keep working for the place that did it. Pathetic. The lot of you. Grow a spine.
>>69602954
Your company literally almost killed somewhere, and you're gonna sit there and make cutesy tweets about how you don't stand for abuse, while you stand there and let people be driven to suicide and keep working for the place that did it. Pathetic. The lot of you. Grow a spine.

>> No.69603017

>>69602519
Is he wrong thoug?

>> No.69603094

>>69603007
Oooh, look. Found him. Fucking hell it sure is schizo hours atm.

>> No.69603112

>>69603017
He's wrong in blaming her. He should air his grievances at the company, not some new hire who has nothing to do with all the problems.
Faggot was probably too scared of approaching Enna or Uki who have bigger fanbases but didn't expect Vivi herself would shit on him.

>> No.69603127

>>69603112
Your company literally almost killed somewhere, and you're gonna sit there and make cutesy tweets about how you don't stand for abuse, while you stand there and let people be driven to suicide and keep working for the place that did it. Pathetic. The lot of you. Grow a spine.

>> No.69603168

>>69595962
dang now they are bullying fans

>> No.69603170

what are these npc posts
why are there so many tourist nijiniggers specifically in this thread

>> No.69603193

>>69595778
That's a lot of text to say you're seething

>> No.69603226

>>69603017
He isn't, he is just being an ass about it. Especially since Niji being a dark company had nothing to do with what he was arguing about. Tangentially related sure. But bringing up someone who tried to commit suicide constantly does not exactly help your case, nor does it help the person who tried to unalive themselves if people keep digging that shit up for them.

>> No.69603227

>>69603112
>He's wrong in blaming her
In what universe

>> No.69603243 [DELETED] 

>>69603170
>t. subhuman dramanigger

>> No.69603245

>>69602550
I always kinda assumed most of the time the chuuba sends the artist a dm asking for permission, but more to like, be polite rather than a strict legal issue. No idea how true that is though.

>> No.69603263

>>69603227
Vivi didn't do anything to Selen nor did she create the clique.

>> No.69603277

>>69603263
Your company literally almost killed somewhere, and you're gonna sit there and make cutesy tweets about how you don't stand for abuse, while you stand there and let people be driven to suicide and keep working for the place that did it. Pathetic. The lot of you. Grow a spine.

>> No.69603286

>>69603170
First time? Welcome to 4chan after huge drama relating to a board blows up. The moment people started posting rrats offsite you could expect an influx of tourist.

>> No.69603292

>>69603017
He is not wrong but he doesn't sound like a dragoon.
Just an overly invested dramafag/ dokibird is my inspiration for vtubing.
Wouldn't be surprising if they are really young.

>> No.69603294

>>69603227
This one, Baron.

>> No.69603310

>>69603263
She's obviously joined the clique

>> No.69603337

>>69603170
Do your reps >>69597944

>> No.69603412

>>69603277
Sounds like the pathetic one is you then. Stop crying.

>> No.69603424

>>69603112
How exactly is he supposed to do that when the company doesn't give a shit or pay attention, and the face of the company and the people who others interact with are the talents?

>> No.69603482

>>69603007
I wonder if Doki believes in "third time's the charm"

>> No.69603524

>>69603424
Harassing unrelated talents most definitely isn't the way to go.

>> No.69603568

>>69603524
Sure, but pointing out that's she's being a bootlicker isn't harassment it's the truth.

>> No.69603571

>>69602558
While I don't like joining the NDF for these types of discussions, it's probably more like at some internal meeting someone brings up the idea that everyone tweets some sort of sentiment together and most of the livers just go along with it. I don't think they think of it as some huge deal.

>> No.69603586

>>69595558
>Gets destroyed so hard by a fucking female vtuber
>blocked her, ran away crying
>went to fucking /vt/ to find gets some reassurance that you're not a retard
kek

>> No.69603628

>>69603568
No it isn't.

>> No.69603652

Here's a question, why didn't they directly reply to the tweet about the artist who cried at the con?

>> No.69603651

>>69603017
If he's not wrong why delete his account?
Owned and literally off'd himself.

>> No.69603664

>>69603628
>
lol

>> No.69603687

>>69603664
Kill yourself pagpag sister.

>> No.69603708

>>69603628
Yes, it is.

>> No.69603720

>>69600633
It's based when she owned that creature as hard as she did

>> No.69603775

>>69603652
because they're weak willed dramafag and not a worthwhile human capable of intelligent thought

>> No.69603782
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69603782

>>69595558
HOLY BASED

>> No.69603808

>>69603424
I don't think anyone can do anything.
People are gonna be angry for whatever reason.
Judging by how anons in Nijien general were dunking on the baron guy even after seeing the reply, I am pretty sure Nijien is gonna memoryhole this.

>> No.69603878

>>69603424
And he got BTFO and deleted his account.
Your point, retard?

>> No.69603885

>>69603775
I'm talking about the niji talents retard-san

>> No.69603915

>>69603652
There's more plausible deniability if they vaguepost about it, which is useful if it turns out the artist was lying or overreacting.
Fairly standard PR move

>> No.69603945

>>69603885
Because they speak to all artists and not just that one snowflake. Or at least Vivi does. I don't believe what snakes like Enna or Uki say.

>> No.69603961

>>69603568
Its an opinion. I know things can get confusing at times especially when you are going trough puberty, but you can't be mixing up shit like this.

>> No.69603980

>>69595558
you've*
dumb cunt

>> No.69603989

>>69603652
Hmm, makes me wonder if those fan artists waited for perms from NIJI to sell their merch at cons.

Its a transparent ass propaganda war.

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>>69595558

>> No.69604103

>>69602429
The reason people are reacting badly to the tweet is the following:

>One of the things that came out after the Selen termination was that Nijisanji is slowly paying or not paying artists they have contracted with, with Selen having to cover some of the company's bills with her personal funds
>A bunch of Nijisanji Livers, Vivi included, started posting tweets all at the same time, all saying lines like "WE LOVE OUR ARTIST FAMILY" to try to defuse the controversy
>Some anon gets pissy, makes a Twitter account and tells Vivi she's a bootlicker for going along with Niji PR saying this stuff
>You are here

>> No.69604183

>>69604103
That twitter account was made some time ago, had a post from Feb 8th.

>> No.69604236

Anons still replying to the brain-damaged retard that got destroyed by her and came here to cry is very funny.

Oh I get it, (s)he's samefagging argument now.

>> No.69604256

>>69600621
no one was harassed. and that sea retard was a plant anyway

>> No.69604535

>>69600209
She could of played it silent instead she bit the fake account. All shr has to do is be like Rosemi or just stay low key over disengous PR. I guarantee you she feels like a fool attracting attention over an issue where Niji bands together in response to Selen. Fucking pointless and stupid. She was the only one to post a genuine reaction so obviously she is on the out still.

>> No.69604578

>>69599685
>save me pink girl

>> No.69604624

>>69601618
She's not doing that

>> No.69604655

>>69602429
This is a chose your own adventure story.
Listen to >>69604103
Or take your meds, and realize Nijisanji Livers are a bunch of terminally online e-celebs who jump onto 'good' trends faster than thread tourists swarm to drama. Vivi has paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars for fanworks. Her coworkers, less so. But Brightshield is a very apt name in this situation when trying to shape public approval

>> No.69604697

>>69602677
>it's vivi's fault that she fell for our harassment campaign
You're a jew aren't you?

>> No.69604798

>>69595962
HOLY BASED

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