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How rich are Vtubers? Like do they all own houses and invest on stuff?

>> No.6943359

after taxes and cuts, they make the same as a normal full time job. this is for the top of the top. the middle and lower end likely struggle.

>> No.6943469

>>6943066
>How rich are Vtubers?
About as rich as their day jobs pay. Only <1% of vtubers can live off what they make. Not many even break even.

If you mean someone like Gura then somewhere around 30k a month.

>> No.6943606

>>6943066
ame has a neat aquarium. very luxurious of ame

>> No.6943642

>>6943469
her first year she'll probably have around 800k in superchats
she gets 30% of that, and that is taxable income
after taxes she likely takes home around $200k, maybe more or less depending on which state she lives in

>> No.6943815

>>6943642
don't forget about memberships, of which I'm sure she has tens of thousands

>> No.6944039

Do VTubers get paid for their shilling streams as much as popular Western normal / gaming streamers with similar amount of subs / views? If they do, they'd have made shit tons more money from those than from SCs. I don't think any VTuber has disclosed this, though

>> No.6944053
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>>6943642
Why do people act like superchats are 100% of a girls income, they are just one slice of the pie. Gura's membership number mean she is getting 70,000 a month at the absolute minimum from memberships, then put in ad revenue from vods, sponsorships, music revenue and merch.

If Gura makes less than a clean million by her first year anniversary I would be extremely surprised and advise her to hire a good lawyer and review her contract because she is being taken for a ride.

>> No.6944234

>>6944053
This. >>6943359 and >>6943469 do not know what they are talking about.

>> No.6944345

>>6944053
are they commission based or do they get a salary and do whatever the producers say to promote?

>> No.6944447

What's Cover's base salary? It's one of the main reasons they had anyone in gens 1, 2, and 3.

>> No.6944506

>>6944345
They do get paid a nominal stipend for meeting the streaming quota. Other than than that, it's all profit share based on what manner of content is created and who funds said content.

>> No.6944515

They make a good money but nothing close to streamers like amouranth she told today that she makes +2m per month on twitch alone

>> No.6944557

>>6944053
>then put in ad revenue from vods, sponsorships, music revenue and merch.
And guess who is gonna get a Nendo soon? Gura is about to become a millionaire.

>> No.6945361

>>6943066
I don't know about the others, but pretty much all of Hololive are top 1% income earners in their country's ($400k+ household income before taxes for the American Holos). If they keep up their current standards

>> No.6945524

>>6945361
Even Choco and Anya?

>> No.6945580

>>6944053
>>6944234
Yes I do, she doesn't get all her membership income either, nor is it all the same amount. People in Argentina can get memberships for 50 cents.

>> No.6945600

Does Cover get any cuts from memberships or any profit from music that was paid by the vtuber?

>> No.6945633

>>6945600
Of course. They aren't indie vtubers.

>> No.6945710

>>6944447
It was 20k yen per month for pre-monetized Kanata and Coco in early 2020.

>> No.6945727

>>6943066
It sounds like Ina lives with her mom.

>> No.6945811

>>6944515
>+2m per month on twitch alone
Doubt

>> No.6946291

>>6945580
>she doesn't get all her membership income either, nor is it all the same amount
never said otherwise
she's still making at least a million a year, nowhere near a "normal full time job"

>> No.6946342

>>6946291
It's hard to believe the biggest vtuber only makes 10 times more than I do. People act like they are fabulously wealthy and have made retirement money.

>> No.6946448

>>6944039
This is a good question. I know that a livestreamer that gets the numbers a popular holo like Gura does (10k or so concurrent more or less no matter what she is streaming) make absolutely stupid amounts of money doing a sponsored steam. We are talking around 6 figures for a 2 hour sponsored stream type of money.

>> No.6946570

>>6946342
>It's hard to believe the biggest vtuber only makes 10 times more than I do.
For the effort they put in, it's an enormous amount of money. Not that I'm bashing them or anything. It's par for the course in the entertainment industry.
>People act like they are fabulously wealthy and have made retirement money.
If they were smart about it and invested their money sensibly, there would be no reason why they could not retire in a few years' time. That's very impressive.

>> No.6946602

Honestly, I'm a bit worried that they make too much money and will just retire.
I guess there are advantages in making workers live paycheck to paycheck.

>> No.6946959

>>6946602
You definitely don't have to worry about that. They have loads of advantages in continuing their streaming.
>Do what you would normally do but make fat cash
>Socializing opportunities are always present
>Suits do all the hard, boring part of business
Retiring would be a huge downgrade.

>> No.6947011

>>6945811
Pokimane 1m per month
Big westerns streamers make more money in general hell even here in brazil a 10k streamer showed how much twitch pays him and it was 200k

>> No.6947201

>>6946342
Pretty sure I make more money than the less popular holos, Mel only make a few hundred bucks per stream in superchats before youtube/cover's cut and she doesn't stream every day.

>> No.6947394

>>6946291
she's not making more 250k per year
the only people making 1m a year are cover shareholders

>> No.6948324

>>6947394
I'd be surprised if holomen aren't paid partially in stock. otherwise they wouldn't have a financial incentive to support each other or care about the company as a whole.

>> No.6948385

If big Twitch streams who have disclosed how much the average sponsored stream pays are truthful and similar numbers apply to vtubers, non of the EN girls are making less than a million this year after YT/Cover's cut

>> No.6948546

>>6948385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCJzQNw_zT0

>> No.6948742

>>6944557
>implying Gura herself gets any more than 0.1% of sales revenue on those
Cover Corp., or even more specific their subsidary hololive, has the rights to the design.

>> No.6949910

Only enough to be a NEET if they're working in the larger companies, probably.

>> No.6950042

>>6943066
For a big vtuber like Gura:

Base Salary (Hololive only)
Superchats
Ad Revenue
Memberships
Merch
Sponsorships (streams, appearing in games or on promo material)
Appearance Fees (anime expos)

For the smaller ones it's mostly SC/members/Ad Rev and maybe some cheap merch like voice packs or shirt if they can swing that.

>> No.6950190

If she had just stayed independent and built her channel into a vtuber channel she could have been just as successful and kept all the money

>> No.6950216

Botan has already made several million $$ in crypto investments

>> No.6950228

99% of members who've joined Holo have moved house.
Roboco has a ku100.
That says a lot.

>> No.6950237

Pomu from Nijisanji EN just started streaming 2 months ago and she's gonna quit her normal job to stream fulltime. For reference she has about 130k subs, 1.5k liveview average, about 30k VOD average and 50k in SCs. That's enough to replace whatever her office job was, probably making like 40k per year or something like that, as she doesn't seem to be anyone important just a regular worker.

>> No.6950260

>>6950042
but can she afford health insurance

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>>6943066
gura owns 3 911s and a lamborghini mustang

>> No.6950342
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6950342

Coco is literally a millionaire. But regardless of how much most of these girls earn - they have quite possibly the easiest job you could ever have. I do hope they look back at this point in their lives and realise that they couldn't have had it any easier.

>> No.6950390

>>6944053
Hololive Gawr Gura makes those numbers, For all we know she could be getting payed 15 an hour while the channel gets a yacht every week

Not saying Gura is this dumb, just saying the system hasn't been detailed yet

>> No.6950441

>>6950260
Sure? Health insurance isn't that expensive when you make that much money. Like $500 a month average for non-employer coverage.

>> No.6950448

>>6950228
Noel has 2 of those and was completely broke at the start of 2021, after the Japanese IRS came to collect.
A lot of their money goes back into the stream as equipment, assets, they pay for their own songs and personal merch out of pocket and, of course, excessive Japanese taxes meant for stable salarymen and not for Youtubers.

>> No.6950563

>>6950342
Admittedly, if you only see their streaming side, some of them appear to have a super comfy job. But there's a lot more they do behind the scenes as corporate vtubers.
And especially I've seen very few people who have worked in their life as much as Coco has in this last year and a half. She was doing 16+ hours a day for months.
Not pushing rocks or anything, but closer to game devs who get shuffled only through crunch time projects.

>> No.6950686

>>6950441
>$500 a month
Wtf? I know you guys get lower taxes and all, but that's just insane if you have rent to pay or a family. I thought it was something like 1-2k a year at most.
No idea why people that make less than 3k a month would be against higher taxes and free health care like we have in Europe

>> No.6950833

Between several vtubers talking about it and the hints we get, it seems cover is very generous with its starting salary but the margins on everything else, i.e. superchats, memberships merch is all heavily favoring the company.

Don't forget it's a Japanese owned company and they have the same toxic business policies that cause 100s of salary men to commit the intentional forever sleep every year.

>> No.6950954

>>6950686
He said non-employer retard. my employer insurance is like $80/month

>> No.6951035

>>6950954
It's still pretty shitty for all the freelancers bitchanon, but at least I get why your working class doesn't seems too bothered by your broken system

>> No.6951052

>>6944053
yea, and that is why Gura's best content is always a members only
she cares about her massive amout of membershrimps and actually has good discipline when it come to those streams

>> No.6951138

>>6951052
>Gura's best content is always a members only
You might as well just rename that "Members Karaoke". And we all know that's because she feels more comfortable singing in private to people who are likely to take it easy on her, as compared to the 40k she gets when she sings pubicly.

>> No.6951165

>>6951035
I'm bothered by it since it since it would be a great help all around is the system was better. It's not lack of money, I make 8k a month and my insurance is $25 a month for a PPO, but this only lasts as long as I'm employed. Some of my siblings aren't as well off as me, my parents aren't either, so I worry if they just avoid the doctor due to the cost and not asking me for the money that'd I'd gladly give.

>> No.6951204

>>6944053
>Gura's membership number mean she is getting 70,000
what number is that?

>> No.6951236

>>6951204
One he pulled out of his ass. Pay no mind.

>> No.6951282

Kaede talked about this, what do you guys think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2fGW5Lt9jw

>> No.6951298

>>6948385
>how much the average sponsored stream pays
how many sponsored streams do they have?

>> No.6951502

>>6951282
Not more enlightened now than I was before I watched it.

Deron gets like 1200 views on a good day so her youtube revenue is probably not that big of a source of her income.

>> No.6951515

>>6943066
How much is the base salary in Hololive's case? Does it make up for the superchat cut?

>> No.6951803

>>6943066
Suisei recently revealed she has 386 T2 members. If you assume her tier split is similar to Ame (20:2:1 for T1:2:3) and that about half of her T1s are in some meme currency like ARS, that works out to about $11k/month after Susan's cut.
Even if Cover splits that 50/50 she's still about 35% above the average salary for Tokyo just from memberships alone.

>>6951515
It's basically nothing. Matsuri mentioned it was barely enough to cover her rent.

>> No.6951913

>>6951803
>Tokyo rent.
>nothing
I'm sure it made a real difference at the start, even if it wasn't enough to live of off.

>> No.6951991

>>6950342
I want to pound Shion in the anus.

>> No.6952098

>>6943359
>the top of the top make a normal full time wage
You're ktrying to be too much of a realist that you've popped out the other end as delusional.

>> No.6952109

>>6951913
It's better than nothing, but until getting monetized they would still need to have a second job or eat into their savings.
I do wonder if Cover have increased it since then. It would be stupid if they weren't paying new members enough to treat streaming like a full time job from day one, but, well, it's Cover.

>> No.6952223

>>6952109
>but until getting monetized
Irys reach the requirement for monetization within the first half hour of her stream.

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>>6951298
Depends on how jew they want to be, Hololive gives them the option to pick and choose which sponsorships they want to take on (except for branch wide sponsors ex. Priconne and Bookwalker). Money Mori has 16! compare that to Ame who only has 3 (2 of which were branch wide sponsors) because she hates being a shill.

>> No.6952579

>>6952223
That's a pretty recent development, and they still start work months before the first stream (that debut EP didn't come out of nowhere) and need to wait a long time before YouTube actually pays out.

>> No.6952624

>>6950833
>it seems cover is very generous with its starting salary
Wasn't it actually the opposite? The base salary is just a low floor pocket-money stipend (a few hundred bucks maybe, certainly not enough to live off if that's your only income), and the real money only comes rolling in after you've achieved yt monetization, with sc's and memberships.
(Which, to be fair though, with Hololive's increased brand power comes faster and faster nowadays. Years back it took previous gens months from debut to achieve monetization, now with new talents already starting with six figgy subs even before debut it just takes a few weeks or even days)

>> No.6952778

>>6952624
The requirements for monetization are 1000 subscribers + 4000 hours watched. Any new Holo debuting today will hit that by the end of their debut stream.

>> No.6952820

>cover corp pays them $5 a month
>they earn 10% of donations
>they only sell like 5 pieces of merch a year
>song covers actually cost them money
>eh also literally thousands of professional youtubers and streamers apply for this job
you guys are pants on head retarded

>> No.6953045

>create a strawman
>call it retarded

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