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69303608 No.69303608 [Reply] [Original]

My notes on the lawyer stream:

>Selen recorded Vox legally
>Nijisanji could get emotional distress case by overlapping Doki (kek)
>Vox and Elira could be super fucked if they’re part of management
>Selen would need to go to a separate court for her self harm.
>Selen have to prove Nijisanji were responsible for the suicide attempt
>Nijisanji will use BPD as an excuse and will look up her medical history
>Selen will be doxx and her medical history will be public if she decide to sue
>Nijisanji will drag out and stall the case
>Half a million dollars for international lawsuit isn’t out of the question
>She would need a super good Japanese lawyer to go against Niji lawyer loophole fuckery
>Selen and Niji best option is to settle

Unrelated but the lawyer reaction to Vox ASMR and Fujosister were funny as fuck

>> No.69303713

AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEE
NDF JANNIES !!!!!!!
DELETE THIS!!!!!!!

>> No.69303736

>>69303608
So what everyone has been saying the whole time. Someone picard for me. I've been in retirement.

>> No.69303744

>>69303608 (Me)
Stream link:
https://www.youtube.com/live/h_5I3JS_k40?si=Ac5yQvChiYIWKEXC

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>>69303608
I'm enjoying it

>> No.69303857

>>69303608
That's basically what Doki is already doing, settle this shit and move on. Lawsuit will always the last choice to do.

>> No.69303862

>>69303608
No, legal mindset is covering this from the legal standpoint.

And Selen prob has a real good case. Its just that it like all lawsuits vs corpos would cost to much.

>> No.69303901

>>69303862
The biggest factor is if she would doxx herself.

>> No.69303952

Earlier thread
>>69301959

>> No.69303957

>>69303608
ok kurosanji intern

>> No.69303977

>>69303608
They already lost once because the case was strong. Don't take one lawyer's opinion as fact. It might surprise you but lawyers frequently disagree on the law and make that their job. Neither niji nor dramabird will get out of this unscathed but niji has a 2 billion dollar runway and dramabird is fucked either way.

>> No.69303983

>>69303744
You're welcome to buy an ad

>> No.69303999

ALL LAWYER YOUTUBERS ARE RETARDED. HE IS TELLING YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR FOR VIEWS.

>> No.69304012

>>69303608
you missed the part that if niji is a super black company, they may doxx Selen to try and force her into continuing forward with the lawsuit

the general implication being that she'd be in for a bad time if she had to file suit in Japan

however, if Elira and Vox are management and are in Canada, it'd be a lot easier to sue in Canada, which would be terrible for Nijisanji considering Canada's labor laws

>> No.69304013

>Selen wants private settlement
>kurosanji goes apeshit just so they don't pay a single cent
>loses 150m stock price in the process
Lmao

>> No.69304058

>>69303901
Yup, that is why they prob wont go that far. But if if has to go nuke, every talent in Niji would end up doxed in the process as witnesses as well.

Its a double edge sword for all.

>> No.69304089

>>69303999
Yes, but that's why they give him views.

>> No.69304117

>>69303608
This explains the "I want to move on statement" sisters. She wants to block any motivation to investigate and have the last laugh. Not suing = lying.

>> No.69304121

If she would sue Niji, it would go through a Canadian legal system, no? Wouldn't there be far less loopholes if that's the case?

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>> No.69304161

>>69303999
>What I want to hear
I want to hear Niji scream. Peace isn’t an option

>> No.69304182

>>69303999
I stopped giving a shit about youtuber lawyers after legal eagle drama. These guys are as susceptible to bias as any youtuber

>> No.69304241

>>69304058
>>69303901
If she has to dox herself, then that's not a nuke, it's a suicide bomb.
The real question is could she demand certain heads roll as part of the settlement, or would it just be financial compensation.

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>>69303952
>Niji livers can maybe sue Niji for defamation as a result of being thrown under the bus in the termination notice harassment claim
I said Niji might have a case against themselves for defamation but I thought I was joking

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>>69303999
So does your sisters to you, xister

>> No.69304332

>>69304293
NAh i think Niji is giga-retarded in all this buy you shouldn't suck the dick of lawtubers because they're just cloutfags.

>> No.69304340

>>69303999
These threads are like cocomelon to retards, they clap and giggle in awe at words like "liason"

>> No.69304345

>>69303608
>Half a million dollars for international lawsuit isn’t out of the question
I'll donate 10% of my salary for as long as it takes to give them hell.

>> No.69304400

>>69304241
If Niji is smart enough to settle they'll probably be doing that anyway, the branch is going to collapse one way or another if it keeps being run the way it has been.

>> No.69304433

Now he's weighing in on culture. Please have higher standards than any old random opportunistic lawyers. They will absolutely tell you what you want to hear, especially if it gets them more money.

>> No.69304509

>>69304293
Damn bitch, you spend all day on that other site collecting screencaps. Are you okay?

>> No.69304643

>>69303999
pretty much, with how widespread this drama has gotten outside of the community, even tiny youtubers covering it are getting 1k, 5k+ in viewers, so I'm surprised someone like this guy who made profited over the Disney shitstorm decided to stream this
covering Vox ASMR and the rrat will make it more of an hitpiece itself to others, which is unfortunate
would be good to have an actual competent, professional lawyer covering this
I still hope Niji will crash and burn though

>> No.69304821

>>69303999
>HE IS TELLING YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR FOR VIEWS.
>It's a huge fuck-up for Selen to try and sue Nijisanji and would cost half a mill on average, and the Japanese court system is so fucked that trying to sue a company in Japan as a foreigner would be harder than trying to sue Lockheed Martin in the USA.

That's not what I want to hear. What I want to hear is that the PM of Japan will personally sharpen the katana he gives to Selen to behead every single Nijisanji manager, and that Vox will be tried as the Prime-Pedo and launched into a cliff-face from the Coomer-catapult.
But I'm still happy to hear this guy call them disgusting fucks.

>> No.69305050

>>69303999
People trusted the "doctors" and "lawyers" youtubers these days

>> No.69305113

>>69304821
No, you want to hear that she has cover for not suing. Not because she has no case, but because a $500 economy plane ticket is too much and she can't hire a translator. Meanwhile in drama bird land it's okay to spend $200k on videos almost nobody watched and getting $3k in art equipment she's never going to use. The kind of story he's spinning is exactly what you want to hear because then you won't need to critically reflect on your beliefs and readjust them to match reality.

>> No.69305116

>>69304821
Based. Total niji death is the only acceptable outcome.

>> No.69305145

>>69303608
>Unrelated but the lawyer reaction to Vox ASMR and Fujosister were funny as fuck

Don't let the Selen situation distract you from the fact that Vox has a fucking blowjob ASMR stream

>> No.69305225

>>69304821
Well if Anycolor tries to swamp her in court cases she can always go nuclear and release the receipts she claims to have. If what she says is true she could seriously cripple the stock then and make everybody at Anycolor look like a malicious idiot.

>> No.69305357

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>> No.69305427

>>69304293
Holy shit lmao

>> No.69305469

>>69304293
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.69305485

>>69305113
No I wanna hear that Vox has cancer, of the dick.
Because he fucked a Tasmanian Devil with facial tumour disease because he got drunk and thought it was a particularly noisy child.

Tasmanian Devil Facial Tumour Disease is a contagious cancer in case you don't get my meaning. Yes. A contagious cancer.
And I hope Vox gets it in the dick.

>> No.69305519

>>69304293
Hah

>> No.69305619

>>69304013
they cost her 200k so she cost them 150 mil

>> No.69305680

I feel like anyone with a bit of legal knowledge would've told you that it would be an expensive lawsuit hence why Selen never filed anything and probably tried to settle something privately.

I doubt the talents are also "managers" ratt to be real but if it is, I would honestly throw a good 2k American dollerydoos at Doki if she has a legal fund of some sorts to pursue damages.

>> No.69305780

>>69304241
>financial compensation.
why would niji agree to that? theyll call for her bluff to sue them. They are already 50/50 going to disband Nijien, they could careless if everyone gets doxxed. This would lead to everyone harass Selen since they know her identity and probably lead to her 4th attempt.

>> No.69305799

>it ends in cucking

>> No.69305805

>69303977
Stop calling her dramabird.

>> No.69305822

>>69305799
>MORE

>> No.69305870

Gator: It ends in cucking
LegalMind: MORE

fucking kek

>> No.69305903

>>69305680
She has the money now. The case is wide open for her, all she has to do is grab it. Niji royally fucked themselves

>> No.69305916

>>69305780
'If the settlement is less than the cost of the lawyers' time it's worth it' is generally the rule in business.

>> No.69305926

who the fuck even said anything about her going to court? she's said multiple times she just wants to move on. take your meds you delusional fuckwads

>> No.69305972

>>69303608
I doubt she's going to sue or ever intended to, the communication between lawyers wasn't for a lawsuit, it was some other legal stuff, probably her contract. The termination wouldn't have been sudden to her if she was intending to sue this entire time.

>> No.69305987

This Gator guy is obnoxious and idiotic as all hell.

>> No.69305992

>>69305926
She absolutely should though.

>> No.69306050

>>69305926
She wants to move on but nijigger doesn't want to it seems

>> No.69306113

>stock goes 2% up
You lost dokicucks

>> No.69306115

>>69305926
It's in case Kurosanji's retarded enough to force her hand to

>> No.69306145

>>69303850
Wtf is this real?

>> No.69306360

>>69305992
True, she should embarrass herself in court so people know she was full of shit quick

>> No.69306387

>>69305926
The usual
Dramafags looking for more drama

>> No.69306392

>>69306360
>she would lose
Okay Niji Sister.

>> No.69306397

Yeah. Doki's lawyer pretty much fucked up.

>> No.69306454

>>69306145
Of course it's real
Why should we ever doubt the internet?

>> No.69306479

>>69303850
could you make it faster?

>> No.69306483

migrate to the general
>>69306091
>>69306091
>>69306091

>> No.69306592

>>69303999
Probably. But he's on the internet so I'm inclined to believe him.

>> No.69306749

>>69305145
>a
Anon, there are multiple. The sisters are all out of sorts now because he stopped doing them. Deleted them as well, I think?

>> No.69306854

>>69305926
The sisters really really want her to sue the company and destroy Nijisanji EN once and for all

>> No.69307224

So was the canadian government involved in handling paying for all of this for her?

>> No.69307377

>>69306749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_F6pRMQ72c

>> No.69307457

>>69307224
If they did, she'd need to doxx herself. And it would likely doxx portions of Niji in the process. Probably a last resort.

>> No.69307701

>>69306392
The only evidence that people who read the document bring up is that something happened around where Elira, Millie and Enna live (where we don't know what happened or why it was mentioned) and Selen misinterpreting livers siding with management and advising her that she should do what they say as a betrayal and targeted bullying. She has no case which is why she wanted things to be confidential, why she started panicking when livers read the document and why she's running with the pacifist "I don't want any trouble" story now

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>>69304345
In Kneel

>> No.69308783

>>69306050
Give it a week before she brings up attempt 3.

>> No.69309100

>>69303999
I don't know, this Nick Rekieta guy is telling me Vic's about to win all the lawsuits, and I think he's onto something

>> No.69309334

>>69303608
I still don't believe there was ever an intention to sue. I think Niji thought there was and that caused them to chimp the fuck out. Their chimp out (termination letter, etc.) led anons to believe a lawsuit was already going on. Now that there's nothing, same as there always has been, anons are confused.
>What happened then did Doki chicken out?
Possibly, international lawsuits really are exorbitantly expensive, but I find the explanation that Niji misinterpreted her 'exit letter' as what she was planning to release publicly, causing the chimp out, more plausible.
>could Niji sue Doki
Of course they could. They'd risk being dragged over to Canadian court and raped on live TV, but they could.
>could Doki sue Niji
Sure but she'd risk being dragged to Japanese court and that's terrifying. The Nip legal system is a fucking joke for foreigners and private citizens.

>> No.69309337

>>69303608
>Lawyer
>Invites fucking Gator of all people on
It's like he wanted to immediately lose all credibility.

>> No.69309415

>>69309337
It's not the same gator as the guy who simps constantly every stream right?

>> No.69309482

>>69309337
He's sektur adjacent anon, of course he would go to Gator

>> No.69309499

>>69303608
there’s no way niji would settle for a lawsuit. They’ll drag it out, put her under immense stress and burn her legal fees. That’s what any smart business would do.

>> No.69309530

>>69308783
You're angry at what you're defending anon. It's Niji who chimped out and smeared their shit all over the internet in a tard rage.

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didn't even read OP post
>nobody cares retard
nobody cares retard
>PRRROINK

>> No.69309578

>>69309499
There's still nothing to indicate there's an actual lawsuit happening. It's entirely possible Niji was just retarded and thought there might be.

>> No.69309660

>>69309337
>>69309415
the gator on stream is https://twitter.com/TheGatorGamer, not SC every stream attention seeking gator

>> No.69309667

>>69306854
I don't. I want them to fuck off back to their shitty BFE and kpop bands and leave the real streamers alone.

>> No.69309669

>>69303608
I wonder if Legal Eagle will do a video on this.

>> No.69309730

>>69303608
>Vox and Elira could be super fucked if they’re part of management
Did the lawyer go into detail how?

>> No.69309757

I can't believe the NDF were the ones to prompt this guy to review this.

>> No.69309784

>>69303608
>Half a million dollars for international lawsuit isn’t out of the question
Half a million what? Sue for half a million or it would cost half a million to sue?

>> No.69309805

>>69309660
Yes, I am aware. The Gator on the stream was the guy that was Ethan Ralph's towel boy for years and cleaned up his gunt sweat.

>> No.69309845

>>69304280
>>Niji livers can maybe sue Niji for defamation as a result of being thrown under the bus in the termination notice harassment claim
Are they talking Elira, Vox, and Ike specifically?

>> No.69309849

>>69309730
watch the stream

>> No.69309860

>>69309784
Cost half a million. Nijisanji is an international corporation. Even if they have no case they can just keep stalling and stalling which keeps increasing the court costs and drain Selen of all her money. She doesn't have the resources to fight them in court.

>> No.69309879

>>69309757
Qrd?
No way NDF this retard

>> No.69309927

>>69309879
Bro they scream at Doki about shit Niji did. They're more retarded than you think.

>> No.69309936

>>69309805
The troll and sex offender? Kind of bottom of the barrel there with this random lawyer, Id just wait for more False and Rev vids

>> No.69309937

>>69303608
>Nijisanji will drag out and stall the case
>Half a million dollars for international lawsuit isn’t out of the question
This will not bode well for Doki.

>> No.69309960

>>69309860
Yeah. It sounds nearly impossible for Selen to sue Nijisanji. So why is the best avenue is to settle?
Unless Selen wants to come off as a liar, then as long as Nijisanji just SHUTS THE FUCK UP, then Selen will also (try to) put it behind her.

>> No.69309968

>>69305780
Did I miss the 3rd

>> No.69310004

>>69309937
You underestimate the Dragoons and holofags. If Niji doesn't back the fuck off, they WILL fund it.

>> No.69310021

>>69309937
I highly doubt she wouldn't actually kill herself if she tried going through a legal battle with Nijisanji.
Unless she's only done the woman "suicide attempt" where there was almost no chance of actually dying and it's just a cry for help like most women do.

>> No.69310029

>>69309960
>So why is the best avenue is to settle?
I think the lawyer's operating on the assumption there's an active law suit.

>> No.69310033

nijisisters we are getting fucking destroyed...

>> No.69310073

Glad he's calling out that #4 in the Nijisister document effectively amounts to:
>"It can't be true that Nijisanji bullied Selen because Nijisanji said they didn't"

>> No.69310106

holy shit he's absolutely eviscerating the nijisisters

>> No.69310113

>>69310033
They've been getting destroyed. Whether Doki sues or not EN's absolutely going the way of ID, CN and KR after all this.

>> No.69310120

>nijidoki2 review
AAAAAIIIIIEEE SISTERS THEY'RE LAUGHING AT US

>> No.69310127

>>69309757
isreal? they really taking a page out of their black company's book by shooting themselves in the foot?

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>>69303608
Wow I'm listening to him, just popped on my feed, very educational and funny.

>> No.69310323

>>69310113
I doubt it. It looks like the existing livers are still being supported mostly and they'll get new sponsors once the internet forgets all this drama like it always does.
The stock value lost is just a setback, they basically just lost progress, but it's not something they won't be able to recover from.
There is way too much money in the English speaking market to give up on.

>> No.69310351

>Dokishills resort to some two bit youtube lawyer to "own the sisters"
Vic is going to win that case any day now after all...

>> No.69310383

>>69310004
Half a million dollars? Really? Does she even get SC'd that much?

>> No.69310472

>>69309334
From what I'm hearing and understanding, whichever side decides to sue the other would be in a disadvantageous position.
Doki would have to sue for wrongful termination and breach of contract in Japan, where ironclad Canadian labour laws wouldn't protect her.
Niji would have to go through Canada if they wanted to sue for violating privacy and defamation, which have much stricter definitions than Japan.
Pretty much a shitshow that neither side wants to touch.

>> No.69310485

>>69306145
About as real as anything else posted on this board in the last week

>> No.69310597

>>69310323
I don't think you understand that the EN branch just made a billionaire CEO do a fucking apology video and cost him 200m usd. Forget their jobs, they'll be lucky if they still have their heads after that video.

>> No.69310617

>>69310472
Yeah. Suing is a lose-lose situation for both sides.
The thing is that Nijisanji doesn't stop racking up Ls so I could actually see them try suing her.
The thing is that Nijisanji actually has the resources on hand to do it, and make Doki's life a living hell.

>> No.69310642

>>69310323
We'll have to see, my money's on EN being folded into the main branch by the end of the year. Niji's been on a consolidation kick and this fiasco gives them an excuse to consolidate more.

>> No.69310661

>>69310597
The EN branch didn't make him do that. The dumbass administration which couldn't manage the EN branch did that.

>> No.69310777

>>69309337
Oh god not this retard,
He was shilling for the gay gamestop manager that pushed a fake dox of pippa who's supposed to be his friend, don't trust this dumb motherfucker

>> No.69310825

wait am i missing something? why does the company not just kill the baddie? any lawyers in the house?

>> No.69311278

>>69310825
Id say you are missing a chromosome or two

>> No.69311281

>>69303608
Vox and Elira clearly aren't part of management because Doki pointed out that only management should have been allowed to see the document. The fact that Niji account even made a statement trying to cover their asses after the fact pretty much proves it.

>> No.69311413

>>69311281

...Fuck. OK that's actually a really solid point. I'm convinced then.

>> No.69313008

>>69310383
If she does go to court, I'll help crowdfund her. As well as thousands more. The publicity would be beautiful. Anycolor can't afford to lose more face.

>> No.69313364

>>69310383
If she asks for help, they will provide. You seriously underestimate how much everyone both loves this bird and wants to see that trashfire of a company burn to the ground.

>> No.69313458

>The clique thing was confirmed to be very likely due to how impromptu translator work
>it's a normal practice in business or school
Oh dear...

>> No.69313633

>>69309100
Tbf every vic stream nick prefaced it with a warning that vic could still lose.
And unlike japan, slander is an uphill battle in the usa
AND vic deserved to win because losing gives credibility to those faggot rrats that vic slept with young girls at cons

>> No.69313635

>>69303608
Time stamp on the vox asmr? i want to laugh

>> No.69313639

>Tengen Toppa Gurrat Lagann
The rrat that will pierce the heavens. My fucking sides

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>>69313635
He’s still streaming but it’s somewhere here

>> No.69314131

>>69305926
>threatens legal action
B-but I just want to move on guys!

>> No.69314141

>>69303977
>but niji has a 2 billion dollar runway
While that is true they are nowhere near being a too big to fall corpo and riku has already flagged with his apology video that jp management wants this pr disaster over with.
They may technically be the bigger entity but trying to take doki down would likely ruin them and they know it. Doki would be able to fight financially through crowdfunding, the real risk would be her mentally noping out and going for a third attempt and even that is a risk nijijp likely wants to avoid.

>> No.69314177

>>69305926
She can't move on unless nijicucks don't follow legal action

>> No.69314368

>>69304182
>eagle drama
qrd?

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insane how many normies are learning about nijisanji via this drama

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>>69303608
>>Half a million dollars for international lawsuit isn’t out of the question
Riku will melt in anger if this happens.

>> No.69314472

>>69310617
They can do it and tank Japan image.

>> No.69314568

>>69304013
I do wonder about the implications that the stock drop had for AnyColor. 150M in value is not insignificant especially if they're using their stocks as collateral to secure loans. I imagine Riku is fucking screeching at people because the banks are ready to break his kneecaps since their collateral just went to shit.

>> No.69314594

>>69314131
Well, yeah, if she wants to leave the company but continue being a streamer and can't because she's still under contract with Niji...and Niji doesn't respond to her on contract negotiations, making it look like they'll drag it until until the end of the contract...
...which I think Gator said on the stream were 2-year contracts, so if she debuted in July 2021, she probably renewed in mid-2023, giving her almost a year and a half of contract left...

Honestly, Doki moving on is the best outcome for the NDF. Don't know why they're harassing her for not trying to kill the company, taking their oshis down with it.

>> No.69314629

As much as I dislike nijisanji, best course of action is for both sides to disengage.

>> No.69314635

>>69304340
Cocomelon? What or who?

>> No.69314642

>>69314466
Implying Doki wouldn't be fucking bankrupted by the time Niji feels even a hit to their bank account

>> No.69314778

>>69314594
>if she wants to leave the company but continue being a streamer and can't because she's still under contract with Niji...and Niji doesn't respond to her on contract negotiations, making it look like they'll drag it until until the end of the contract..

What a disingenuous faggot. Read her termination notice. She refused to do what Nijisanji said to do if she wanted to keep her job and got lawyers to their doorstep. Every liver says that they're able to graduate whenever they want. She wanted to stay in Nijisanji and graduate on her own terms and not be terminated. Otherwise, she'd publicly ruin Nijisanji. That's her negotiation tactic

>> No.69314809

>>69313008
Lol your 10 bucks and pocket lint ain't doing shit

>> No.69315470

>>69310661
>The EN branch and the administration of the EN branch are completely separate entities

>> No.69315512

>>69314642
If Doki opened up a gofundme for legal fees, she'd absolutely clear $500K easy.

>> No.69315600

>>69314778
>Every liver says that they're able to graduate whenever they want.
Except they can't because there's a literal queue of people.
> She wanted to stay in Nijisanji and graduate on her own terms and not be terminated. Otherwise, she'd publicly ruin Nijisanji. That's her negotiation tactic
Sounds...reasonable?

>> No.69315614

So nijifaggots are trying to drag Hololive into their petty war against a chink leaf too?
https://rentry.org/nijidoki2

>> No.69315636

>>69315512
Yeahp, I'd throw in a hundred to contribute to Total Niji Death

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>>69306479

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>>69314809
X$10 it ads up

>> No.69315715

>>69303608
>grifter looking for cheap dramabait views
>people getting their hopes up because he says he's a "real lawyer trust me dude"
Didn't Vic Mignogna get a grifter lawyer and still lost his case too? And afterwards he deleted his account? I don't trust youtube lawyers after that fiasco.

>> No.69315799

>>69315715
What hope?
He implied best option for Doki is to stay away from this mess and it's exactly what Doki is doing.

>> No.69315837

>>69303608
Good notes, lots of interesting tid-bits. Kino threads

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The 2nd stream better be with the certified leech False. He is what he is but it'll be destructive.

>> No.69315884

>>69304058
I... I wonder how the talents are feeling rn if they know this...

>> No.69315945

>>69304340
das me

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I'd rather trust Dookie's own lawyer than some random faggot on youtube. The way she wrote her last twitter statement seemed like they were trying to back off from it because they think she doesn't have a good case.

>> No.69316003

>>69315978
You don't get it anon, we must loop until Doki tries to kill herself again so I can see Nijisanji burn.

>> No.69316008

>>69315978
>Dookie
do they have to wear the retard badge wherever they go?

>> No.69316022

>>69309805
>>69309936
the chud clique? Understandable

>> No.69316047

>>69315978
That "random faggot on youtube" clarified that Canadian law would require them to doxx everyone in the case, making settlement outside of court much safer and saner for everyone involved.

>> No.69316063

>>69316003
thats very dark anon

>> No.69316065

>>69310383
you highly underestimate how fucked up this is to normies, it shocks a lot of people in general and so she'll get the funding for sure

>> No.69316071

>>69315978
>The way she wrote her last twitter statement seemed like they were trying to back off from it because they think she doesn't have a good case.

You know, statements like this just indicate you're a woman just like the author of the reentry. It's purely about 'seems like' not what is actually in front of you. It's a purely emotion driven opinion.

>> No.69316101

>>69303608
good notes, OP, check out the threads too

>> No.69316113

>>69316071
So what is your opinion of the statement? Was sje trying to de escalate or not?

>> No.69316126

>>69315978
From what I understood from the stream backing off is the #1 option for her there no matter how strong her stance is since it'll be a MASSIVE pain in the for everyone, herself included, if she doesn't.

>> No.69316144

>>69315978
It's less of not having good case and more on not wanting a prolonged lawsuit case with big corpos

>> No.69316153

>>69303608
>youtube lawyer
If it's not legal eagle or a guy with reputation this means fuck all, this guy is a literal who and is probably just sugar coating shit to get retards (you) to donate.

>> No.69316188

>>69315978
Random faggot on youtube backed this up entirely by saying that suing niji wouldn't be a great idea due to doxxing but if niji sues her they are fucked. Go back to your seething doxx site sister.

>> No.69316201

>>69303608
>Half a million dollars for international lawsuit isn’t out of the question.
lol, an indie streamer of her size gets half a million in no time. A lengthy legal battle is definitely not worth for just that. Doesn't even hurt the company.

>> No.69316243

>>69316153
Probably, still hilarious to see him decimate the retarded sister narrative while shitting on vox and elira.

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>>69316201
>Doesn't even hurt the company

Yeah, hurt so far has been negligible. I'm sure engaging in a court case with a double suicide attemptee would have further negligible hurt.

>> No.69316375

>>69316063
That's what these threads sound like. The more videos use her name, the more these tourists will go to her chat and endlessly remind her of the times she attempted suicide, isn't that messed up? Why can't /vt/ stay contained? Why bring it to her front doorstep? Spin rrats all you want, it is going against her plea to move on by spreading it on all social medias while using her face.

>> No.69316385

this guy had some weirdo (who already had the opinion of nijisanji bad) to explain everything to him? thanks for the donos - lawyer

>> No.69316420

I don't care if he's a third rate clout hungry lawyer or something like that, as long as he could help accelerate the total annihilation of NijiEN then he's good

>> No.69316436

>>69315843
He also has insider info, which he won't intentionally leak but might slip up on livestream

>> No.69316453

>>69316375
Doki is lawyered up and gofundme will cover fees. Killing the evil slavery company is the most important thing as it prevents further harm.

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More seethe from the sisters.

>> No.69316488

>>69316113
She was enforcing her legal rights. That's neither escalation or de-escalation. That's enforcement of the rightful status quo.

>> No.69316548

>>69316453
>ignoring her mental health and how she wants to move on for her own mental stability
This is what I mean. She could have the best lawyer in the world but it'd force her to relive all this shit.

>> No.69316549

>>69314778
>Read her temination notice.
She was told "break the rules one more time and we'll fire you".
She broke the rules, and was told "we won't fire you if you take the blame for everything that happened there".
She didn't take the blame, and they still didn't fire her.

Were showing favoritism by trying to keep their most popular EN female Vtuber around?
Were they harassing her, by refusing to end the contract to limit her ability to work outside the company, while not letting her stream so she couldn't work within the company?
Or were they trying to show they had a heart, by cutting her a break considering her mental health? This one'd be hard to make a case for unless they were giving her any sort of financial support during her suspension, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if that were the case.

>got lawyers to their doorstep
Her taking steps to know her rights is an issue how? That sort of thing shouldn't be an issue unless you're taking advantage of a person who doesn't know their rights.

>Every liver says that they're able to graduate whenever they want.
And yet the liver who tried to quit after lawyering up, who by all rights should have been fired promply rather than stealth suspended for a month first, reports being ghosted by legal when she tried.

>She wanted to stay in Nijisanji
The woman who made two attempts to get as far away from Nijisanji as possible, wanted to stay in Nijisanji?
>and graduate on her own terms
Negotiations are a two-way street. It didn't sound like she said "this is my deal, take it or leave it"--the termination notice only said "if the negotiations did not progress".
You know, it's hard for negotiations to progress if one side doesn't respond. It also makes it hard to graduate whenever you want. Maybe they just forgot to include that part? "You can graduate whenever you want, as long as you wait a few months to get legal to respond to you first so we can maintain the queue".

>> No.69316565

>>69316483
Delicious

>> No.69316594

>>69316548
Would you like me to present this as a trolley problem for your simpleton mind? Seething fujo femcel

>> No.69316606

>>69305113
i'll bite.

it's not a "cover" for not suing. any lawyer worth their salt and who has any kind of empathy for their clients would advise them, right off the bat, an estimate of the financial and other resources they'll need to proceed with the case, and reiterate that there's no 100% guarantee of success. it's not just for the clients, it's also for the lawyer, to avoid instances where even they cant collect anything bc the client went virtually bankrupt. bringing up finances is not a "cover", it's a legitimate part of the legal consulting process, one which may override all of the client's other concerns. people who do their own finances would know what a big concern this is.

>> No.69316610

>>69316483
Can't wait for even more seethe tomorrow after lawyersan goes through the more comprehensive mouse

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we spinnin the next cheat sheet live

>> No.69316670

>>69316243
anon, the gurratt is literally the same thing but in reverse

>> No.69316677

>>69316629
KEK

>> No.69316695

>>69316629
fucking kek

>> No.69316717

>>69316008
Give them a break anon, it's all they have left after their "livers" abandoned them.

>> No.69316726

>>69316629
I wonder what the fuck the admin of that site is thinking right now lmao

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>>69316483

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>>69316483
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.69316772

>>69303857
Mate a settlement means they give her money to not sue them.

>> No.69316775

>>69316629
>Allegedly, because there is no actual proof of anything... they call it whataboutism
Are we dealing with mentally challenged children?

>> No.69316778

>>69316594
I didn't even say anything pro Nijisanji, where are you getting off calling me a femcel? Is it not fucked up that she tried to kill herself twice from the stress?

>> No.69316807

>>69315978
If you read the COMMS rat, you'd understand the statement was not about her backing off, but about nijisanji backing off. That statement was vetted by both legal councils.

>> No.69316815

>>69316594
Fuck off with your dramafagging. I don't want Doki to be your martyr or weapon, and clearly she doesn't want it either. Let the girl rest.

>> No.69316834

>>69316775
Anon did you not know this already it’s fairly obvious?

>> No.69316853

>>69316629
>lawyer never said documents needed to be confidential
Do they really think you can release any document to the public as long as no one is opposed to it? That's not how privacy laws work...

>> No.69316886

>>69316815
You know they don't care. Dramafags are chasing their high and it won't end for a while now.

>> No.69316903

>>69316483
>This person doesn't agree with my headcanon
>W-e should disbar him!! 1!2!

Do women really?

>> No.69316953

>>69316886
Yeah, I know. She at least has the composure to stay out of it harder than Sayu did and has a more solid support system, so hopefully over time she'll drown it all out with actual fans.

>> No.69317001

>>69316815
Make more threads and call more lawyers, and tell more vtubers to kill themselves while using Dokibird icons. Defend yourself by saying Nijifags started it and you're merely enacting justice. Profit by Doki making a third attempt on her life, or even succeeding because she will forever be discussed as That girl who should have sued Nijisanji and didn't.
This is what they want.

>> No.69317040

>>69316903
It's from "women" and """women""" that are permanently squatting the biggest vtuber doxxsite on the planet going for a pity party about people harassing the livers while also being known for aggressively harassing any female that gets too close to their oshi.
If you expected logic there, I don't know what to tell you.

>> No.69317043

>>69316629
> Doki's lawyer failed to ensure documents be kept confidential
They aren't even paying attention to the stream. The criticism was that Doki's lawyer failed to inform Doki that despite its confidential nature, the document could be leaked anyway and that a revised version should be drafted with that possibility in mind.

>> No.69317146

>>69316853
the lawyer said that it depends on how the privacy agreement was done.
in japan you can politely ask for people not to share the document, but they can share it anyway if they don't care.
we don't know what doki's lawyer actually did, so her lawyer might have fucked up a little.

>> No.69317211

>>69316903
God I really want them to go after him just them fails

>> No.69317232

>>69317043
I'll be honest with you, Doki's lawyer seems pretty shit. Their decisions have generally been really poor and always turn out badly, the only reason she got out of this alright is because of a lot of pre-existing sympathy and terrible PR decisions by Niji and the livers.

>> No.69317303

>>69317232
t. Nijidrone

>> No.69317330

>>69315978
Just because your understanding of reality is pathetically weak, this does not protect your from reality

>> No.69317446

>>69316903
I thought this sort of reaction was an SJW trait but SJWs side with Doki in this case so I guess it's just a woman trait.

>> No.69317532

>>69316629
just clip the lawyer when he says that and they'll look like idiots for spinning the next sister rrrat

>> No.69317563

>>69316775
always have been anon, they're just that fucking stupid

>> No.69317580

>>69317232
Only a single poor decision (sharing without clarifying exactly what may happen to the document) was made, and doesn't constitute "generally". Typical anti-doc tier sister response.

>> No.69317582

>>69304158
Ike...

>> No.69317607

>>69317146
yeah we don't know the details and ALSO I love how the sisters just fucking are making up RRATS too. RRATS BASED ON DELUSIONS AND CREATING CONCLUSIONS BASED ON SPECULATION LOL

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>>69317582
Who?

>> No.69317654

>>69317146
>depends on how the privacy agreement was done
>don't know how it was done and offers potential fuck-up that might have happened
>sisters assume this speculation to be truth
You're all so dumb, we should trap them with wrong information that's easily false

>> No.69317709

>>69316483
I mean, he dismissed that. They're sperging over nothing

>> No.69317721

LK what did you think of the lawyer stream?

>> No.69317737

I think the sisters have a point. Is he really allowed to cover a rrat that could damage the reputation of someone?

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Ewiwa :((

>> No.69317787

>>69314466
25k viewers, that's chump money, she can go the whole mile

>> No.69317791

>>69317737
By that logic no drama tuber would exist at all, period. Also gossip mags wouldn't exist either, nor the "entertainment" section of newspapers.

>> No.69317803

>>69317737
>Is he really allowed to cover a rrat that could damage the reputation of someone?
Yes? What kind of authoritarian shit hole do you come from?

>> No.69317816

>>69317737
...what do you think is happening when people cover any celebrity or corporate stuff at all that has a chance of going to court

>> No.69317846

>>69317737
Whats TMZ

>> No.69317882

>>69317737
>I-It's only okay when Niji does it!!

>> No.69317917

>>69306145
4chan would never lie to you

>> No.69318016

>>69317791
>>69317803
>>69317816
>>69317846
>>69317882
The problem is that it's schizo bullshit with very little backing it up and he's airing it to a public audience, so it could constitute as slander. He lives in S. Korea which can rape your ass for cyber slander: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korean_cyber_defamation_law

>> No.69318044

>>69314809
i'm sure her nearly 600k subscribers and the millions of people who now know her name through normie ass flesh streamers radicalising them on vtuber drama could scrounge something up

>> No.69318080

>>69317737
I think he does? He said something like 'If you think you can sue me for this, come at me, Riku Tazimi'. But considering he's in Thailand now and the possibility that Riku can send his puppet yakuzas after him, I wouldn't be that needlessly fearless.

>> No.69318088

>>69318016
doesn't matter, company isn't in South Korea, he can go nuts, South Korea doesn't give a shit

>> No.69318095

>>69318016
Cool, go sue him and see how that goes then, lel.

>> No.69318121

>>69318016
He's literally reading a rrat and saying "lol big if true". He's not presenting it as an actual fact. Sisters are so fucking retarded I swear.

>> No.69318146

>>69318016
He explicitly told Anycolor to come at him if they dared in the stream when talking about differences in Japanese defamation law so I'm sure he knows

>> No.69318148

>>69318016
Okay, and? Why do I care what happens to some legal youtuber? If he's done something illegal, he'll get sued. That's on him?

>> No.69318152

>>69318016
Good thing he lives in Thailand not South Korea no clue where you got that from.

>> No.69318200

>>69317737
Yes. He's not offering legal advice nor is he adding anything other than his opinion as a private citizen. The rrat was not written by him either.

PS. Anyone who has worked for a big corpo in any field at least at middle management level is pretty stunned by how Niji has responded to this whole fiasco.

>> No.69318320

>>69318121
S. Korea rapes your ass just for airing that kind of thing at all.

>> No.69318329

>>69314635
A youtube channel for babies.
Like as in they literally make 3D cartoons for infants.

>> No.69318338

sisters not having a rudimentary understanding of the law makes it seem more likely that nijiEN really is run by a clique of female streamers

>> No.69318354

>>69317446
they're not sjws they post shota and rape

>> No.69318382

>>69318320
Regardless of whether that's true or not, it's irrelevant here. He lives in Thailand. You shouldn't be relying on your retarded sisters for facts, retardsis.

>> No.69318459

Lawyer on Vox: https://www.youtube.com/live/h_5I3JS_k40?si=qBhxpiFMpdjUnIWk&t=8296

>> No.69318481

>>69318382
He literally said on stream he would never say anything critical of a Thai because of their defamation laws, but that jack shit to do with criticizing bongs like Vox or leafs like Elira.

>> No.69318484

Even if this all goes to a lawsuit and Niji wins that lawsuit, the damage is already done. Funnily enough, them winning the lawsuit will only piss more of their viewers off, they'll bleed more viewers and their reputation will actually hit rock bottom.
Wow, they got some amount of money from Doki as compensation for winning the lawsuit. So what? That's a single payment, while they just killed all future revenue the EN branch has. I'm sure the investors who invested into the company on the premise of international expansion will be happy that the last foreign branch has went from being 19% of the company's revenue to fucking 0%.
NijiEN has been on a long decline for a long while already, they're bleeding livers, they're bleeding viewers, and this will be the final nail in the coffin. NijiEN(and by extension, Nijisanji), will never recover from this stain on their reputation.

If they want to even come out of this with some hope of recovering the EN branch, they will have to basically rebuild EN from the ground up, the only thing carried over from the old EN would be the livers(or what remains of them after this fucking shitstorm dies down). Neo-NijiEN would most likely leash the hell out of the livers and a lot of content they were doing before would likely be shot down by the new management.

>> No.69318497

>>69306145
Don't worry anon, I got the joke.

>> No.69318500

It's funny because apparently Selen's document meant shit. It was no lawsuit, it was no legal document, it wasn't supposed to be shared with anyone. It was just her account of her grievances.
Niji should just have wiped their asses with that document according to her, I guess? And now she's mad that hey fucked themselves over it. lol

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>>69303608
is this where we are at now? Listening to youtube "lawyers" talk out of their ass?
Any lawyer that speaks like this and doesn't stop and research every point for precedents individually doesn't know what he's talking about

>> No.69318575

>>69318504
lol, wait for the next week, wait for leagleagle

>> No.69318661

>>69318504
This board is /vjew/

>> No.69318692

>>69318016
This way of thinking is what lead NijiEN to shoot themselves in the foot claiming Selen doxxed them. Are you Elira?

>> No.69318715

>>69318504
Sisters were at their retarded twitter documents before, so this is a easy step up
He only even made this video because their rrat was so poorly put together and it pissed him off
Truly self-owning like their oshis

>> No.69318861

>>69318504
Do you really think I give a shit about any of that? All I care about is seeing Nijisanji humiliated.

>> No.69318917

>>69318504
You too can study for decades to be able to talk out of your ass
Go ahead

>> No.69318921

>>69318504
>we
If you dont get entertainment out of a group of armchair lawyers getting shat on by an actual lawyer, picking apart their bullshit points, then you are a better man than i am. I found it very amusing. Then again, i have a hatred for the constant shitshow that is niji.
Vtubing is supposed to be fun. Even Vshojo tries to make it fun, in a whorish kind of way.
What the fuck does niji do? Push away their biggest chuubas on a regular basis?

This is part of the inferno burning it all down and im enjoying it. IF you dont, get fucked.

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>>69317763
pls refer with proper title bad dragon

>> No.69319009

>>69317737
This isn't China.

>> No.69319169

>>69318504
transactional plebs should stay in their lane and keep being a professional PvE lawyering wagie, stuck in a cuckbicle reading boring emails and ledgers.
Let us litigation chads enjoy our million-dollar-at-stake 5 dimensional mental chess PvP.

>> No.69319180

>>69317763
Ewiwa :((

>> No.69319223

>>69303608
>Niji lawyer loophole fuckery
Did this get expanded upon? What loophole is he talking about?

>> No.69319329

>>69314466
no, Doki is 100% getting fucked the most economically by it because Anycolor lawyers will manage to loophole her for months or years and sure as fuck their lawyers are not paid less than $8/hour too

>> No.69319363

>>69319223
Just general loopholes because her lawyer doesn't know much on japanese law and could get held back endlessly on technicalities he isn't familiar with. Turns out, sueing across borders, in a different language and a different legal system is fairly difficult.

>> No.69319364

>>69303608
anon, she wouldnt sue in fucking japanese court, managers and nijis who operate in canada would have to answer in home ground

>> No.69319370

>>69319329
>Doki is 100% getting fucked the most economically
She can just crowdfund it
Money problem solved

>> No.69319411

>>69319329
She could solve the economics side of her case in less than three tweets

>> No.69319465

>>69319223
Japanese law is very different from the majority of the western world so Japanese lawyers automatically have an advantage because they know how to cut through procedural bullshit and know how to obstruct non-jap lawyers. Though that all depends how competent Niji is and knowing them if they do literally nothing it would likely be better than if they did anything at all.

>> No.69319527

>>69303608
You missed out the part where if they did leak her medical info they will be fucked by canada

>> No.69319594

>>69319465
Doki also has a nip lawyer, just seems like a misplay on his part.

>> No.69319640

>>69319527
Their already fucked by Canada since depending on how her contract is structured she could be legally considered an employee under Canadian law and thus be subject to Canadian Labor laws which would ensure their doom no matter what.

>> No.69319881

>>69305113
Sister you are so smart I bet you can represent yourself in court.

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in 3 hours!

>> No.69320091

SUFFAH NIGGERSANJEEV

>> No.69320381

>>69318921

I just don't understand Niji's behavior. Even if you're a cold blooded reptile only interested in money, it's within their best interest to resolve this quietly as possible.
Probably the ideal move is to pay hush money to Selen and make her sign a NDA to not talk about her experiences. Though I guess the actual smart move is make sure your talents aren't being treated like shit so they can actually do their job. Could be a black company thing of trying to destroy Selen as an example for the other talents who think of jumping ship but it backfired horribly.

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>Dookies right now

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>>69320425
>NDF right now

>> No.69320493

>>69320425
Lawyers ARE the authority on law. That's literally how the world works. Don't tell me you're the kind of retard who'll self represent in court then get annihilated.

>> No.69320494

>>69320425
>Ad hominem
>No argument
Opinion invalidated

>> No.69320527

I'm just glad we can all agree that 39daph is a fucking retarded cunt who shouldn't talk ever

>> No.69320559

>>69320493
>random grifter on youtube talking out of his ass is the ultimate authority on this

>> No.69320571

>>69320425
I'm a retard. What is Source A and p in Nijisanji terms?

>> No.69320620

>>69320559
He's a literal lawyer who does youtubing as a side gig. Far more trustworthy than ESL sisters who didn't even do law in high school.

>> No.69320655

>>69314568
it's perfectly within the stock's usual fluctuations if you look at its history

>> No.69320659

>>69320559
I wouldn't say ultimate but he really can give an informed hypothesis regarding the issue

>> No.69320666

>>69311281
But if they where acting as management even if they were given the position itself….

>> No.69320681

>>69320620
Even worse. They are self-righteous tumblr whores with actual brain damage.

>> No.69320690

>>69320620
He isn't trustworthy at all. If you want a neutral opinion go ask a lawyer who isn't a grifter trying to milk this for views and donations.

>> No.69320695

>>69320559
he's got more authority on the issue than anyone on this board will ever be

>> No.69320722

>>69320571
source A is Nijisanji
p is "Nijisanji is not a black company"

>> No.69320751

>>69320559
You could literally find his legal profile online

>> No.69320795

>>69320690
No, he's the most trustworthy third-party so far.
You can't just say he's untrustworthy, give valid reasons.

>> No.69320828

His opinion still hold more weight than nyfco sisters and that makes them seethe. They (30+ women) spent many hours to create a document that got destroyed by the entire vtubing community LOL.

>> No.69320831

>>69320795
>>69320795
>If you want a neutral opinion go ask a lawyer who isn't a grifter trying to milk this for views and donations.

>> No.69320853

>>69320831
There's a reason I specified valid.

>> No.69320863

>>69320690
He's a third party with no involvement in the vtuber community so he is in fact a trustworthy, impartial commentator.

Sorry sis but the average person can smell the shit in niji's actions, only demented fandrones like you see no wrong.

>> No.69320872

>>69320559
as opposed to sisters?
Yeah I'll take an actual lawyer's word even if he was a grifter

>> No.69320945
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How much do you want to bet sisters would be spamming his yt links like they did yesterday with their failed document if he turned out to defend nijisanji?

>> No.69320981

>>69320690
You are only saying this because he said half of your reentry was irrelevant and the rest was retarded and besides that a neutral lawyer is one that doesn’t give shit about either side not one who holds his tongue because it might hurt one side more than the other.

>> No.69321016

who should I trust
>ugly fat sister
>handsome lawyer who fucks japanese women

>> No.69321019

>>69320863
Him going with popular hate mob conclusions makes him untrustworthy.

>> No.69321029

>>69320831
I really doubt that even though you can give him an akasupa he'd really take your side, sister

>> No.69321031

>>69320831
>He's a grifter because his opinion is in line with literally everyone besides sisters.

>> No.69321076

>>69321019
>if he gets the answer I've already decided is wrong, he's untrustworthy

>> No.69321107

>>69321019
Popular conclusions can be correct
Hate mob is subjective characterization
Want to try again?

>> No.69321110

>>69321019
>Disagreeing with sisters makes you untrustworthy

>> No.69321177

>>69321110
>muh sisters
Dokitrannies pretending there aren't a ton of histrionic women supporting Dookie right now.

>> No.69321186

>>69321076
>>69321110
He is incentivized monetarilly to go with popular opinion

>> No.69321213

A recurring trend I've noticed with sisters is that they don't trust legal counsel at all. Notice how they keep demanding Doki to release everything even though no lawyer would advise that.

>> No.69321233

>>69321177
Yeah the ones who are not retarded

>> No.69321307

>>69321186
And the unpopular opinion isn't? Better tell all those places that publish inflammatory clickbait daily that they're actually going bankrupt.

>> No.69321330

>>69321213
You are taking legal grifter at face value while rejecting Nijisanji's statement at face value. Contradictionary dookie fans are all like this.

>> No.69321342

>>69321019
> Ignoring all the valid points he brings out that's against the current narrative.

Sister, his conclusion is a lot neutral that simply agreeing with the mob conclusion. He actually pointed out the document leak might not stand ground in Japan if Doki didn't force niji to sign and a first because japan doesn't have moral obligation of confidentiality. Or that Doki's lawyer could've also done better by providing a summary of selen's document instead of tue whole thing.

>> No.69321365

>>69321186
And studies are conducted funded by those who make products. While the conflict of interest must be disclosed, it does not inherently make the results untrustworthy, though they do merit closer inspection.

>> No.69321393

>>69321186
>the unpopular opinion must be right
I guess you believe Taiwan belongs to China, then?

>> No.69321414

>>69321330
Statements that read like a grudge post by highschoolers doesn't have much value to anyone.

>> No.69321441

>>69321330
No, this is common knowledge and has nothing to do with this case specifically.

>> No.69321481
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Sisters, maybe write another documents to prove him wrong ? I know you can do it

>> No.69321483

>>69321330
>Contradictionary
Ni Hao!

>> No.69321540

>>69321481
Please, show these retards who's right, we can do it this time sisters

>> No.69321543

>>69321186
Nigger I want him to scrutinize the gurrat just as he scrutinized your blog entry. You hide in embarrassment and hurt ego, we just revise the gurrat into a hopefully closer account to the truth

>> No.69321583
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69321583

I have a relative who is an actual lawyer. Maybe he can comment on this situation if he has time and then I'll post his comments here.

I'm just saying that this grifting nigger isn't reliable at all. He has every reason to be on Dookie's side since that's the public opinion right now and he wants views and donations and not a hate mob on his ass.

>> No.69321663

>>69321330
>taking niji's statement at face value
any person above room temperature iq would either have an aneurysm or a laughing fit after reading that excuse of a termination notice. It's blown up this much because it's such massive PR blunder that even normalfags can notice it. The question now, is why can't you accept that Niji fumbled?

>> No.69321664

>>69321583
Not by your previous comments you don't. But if you aren't bullshitting, then by all means. We welcome it.

>> No.69321691

>>69321583
so true sister!
anyway, what was it he said again that was false?

>> No.69321692

>>69321583
Hi, I'm your lawyer relative, you're a piece of shit for purposefully feeding me wrong information and you should feel ashamed of yourself.

>> No.69321718

>>69321664
I don't know shit about law myself. I'd have to ask him.

>> No.69321731

>>69321583
tbf the only way you can think to defend Anycolor in this situation is if you are Japanese

>> No.69321747

>>69321663
Retard, listen to Vox, he literally says to take him at face value, why don't you trust him?!!

>> No.69321758

>>69321583
>I have a relative who is an actual lawyer.
Which voice in your head is that?

>> No.69321767

>>69321583
So, what has the grifting nigger said that grates you exactly?
That's assuming you have watched the vido in the first place.

>> No.69321838

>>69321747
Le retard de Vox.

>> No.69321885
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69321885

>>69321758
It's my uncle. Problem?

>> No.69321896

>>69314809
Only spend $10? I'm a chumbud. We are employed and laugh at your complaints about a measly membership fee.

>> No.69321922

>>69321885
uoh

>> No.69321948

>>69321583
I assume you kept notes on his statements that feel like a misstep in reasoning? Put it here and refute it logically

>> No.69321987

>>69321948
You cannot argue when his entire stream is already biased

>> No.69322011

>>69321583
>>69321885
Underage people aren't allowed in the board

>> No.69322072

>>69321987
So you haven't watched it. Got it.

>> No.69322079

>>69321987
>Never mind you aren't gonna change your mind anyways
Woman moment

>> No.69322102

>>69321987
Sister if you can’t refute any of his points it doesn’t mean he’s biased it means your wrong.

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>>69303999
no shit, but this will rile up people anyways so just have fun until we actually get some decent counter arguments. after all he is just retelling what we already know.

>> No.69322177

>>69321885
If he looks at you for over three secobds in silence, he's calling you retarded in his mind, fyi.

T. both a lawyer AND an uncle

>> No.69322246

>>69317763
I really hope that she was forced to make that statement. I really like her and it will suck if she really did that stream on her own.

>> No.69322329

>>69321583
I mean it's pretty cut and dried that Nijisanji should have just shut the fuck up instead of making any of the choices they made. Any lawyer would tell you that, not just this guy. Shutting the fuck up is the theme of this whole situation.

>> No.69322351

>>69322246
Yeah, I only watched her semi-regularly, but enjoyed her enough to keep coming back. Still in disbelief desu

>> No.69322460

>>69322329
To be honest it’s not just for this case it’s for practically every legal case unless your being defamed widely in the media and need to damage control ASAP which doesn’t apply for this case since Niji fired the first public shot and fucked themselves by doing so.

>> No.69322475

>>69322246
She was nice on stream, but if you see her moments when caught off guard or when she is drunk, it becomes obvious that she has a different persona irl. She likely is a real mean girl who wears a mask like a pro.

>> No.69322522

>>69322460
It's literally "Don't talk to cops". Everybody knows this.

>> No.69322573

>>69317763
They really blundered when they let her put out that stream. Shining evidence of incompetent management. Hope the sisters understand that the harassment is the effect, not the cause.

>> No.69322652

>>69322573
I mean have you SEEN the ones in this thread?

>> No.69323013

>>69303608
So someone is compiling the embezzlement rrats to send to him right?

>> No.69323223

>>69323013
it is supplemental and slightly takes away from the godrrat since it is harder to prove. It should be it's own rentry honestly.

>> No.69323353

>>69323223
Harder to prove, to US, maybe not to a lawyer if given the context

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https://youtu.be/h_5I3JS_k40?t=10283

poor vox lmao

>> No.69323666

>>69323353
quick google search on how to prove embezzlement says:
>The alleged embezzler had a fiduciary obligation to the victim. In other words, the victim and the alleged wrongdoer maintained a relationship of trust, and the accused person had a legal responsibility to care for and protect the best interests and property of the victim.
>The defendant acquired the money or property at issue via his or her fiduciary relationship with the victim.
>The defendant took ownership of the property that was transferred and/or stolen. This is referred to as conveyance.
>The defendant intentionally took the property at issue.
ALL of the points have to be proved in order to prove embezzlement. It gets a little muddy here because who exactly would be the victim in this case? Livers? The company?

>> No.69323796
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poor sisters... this fucking dude destroyed them

>> No.69323830

lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0-zcVVlE8Q

>> No.69324235

>>69303862
Honestly, cost probably won't matter since she'll just get an insane amount of community donations to cover it. The real cost would be to her mental health having to go through the process for a long time.

>> No.69324350

>>69324235
She needs continuous funding for a year or more time. That seems pretty unlikely.

>> No.69324537

FAKING MONKE

>> No.69324583

>>69324350
Remember Ame's charity stream raised 235K and Mori's raised 100K in a day. Because people got a good cause for an excuse, and they like the vtuber doing it, so they open their wallets.
Now you have a good cause that directly helps the vtuber? I wouldn't be surprised if you saw a million over a month.

But in either case, at this point Anycolor would be absolute fucking retards to meet her in a court battle. The publicity from the fundraiser alone and the probable huge numbers would kill them stone dead in the court of public opinion before a single testimony is heard. Then again, who knows the depths of their retardation.

>> No.69324621

>>69304293
RUMAOOOO

>> No.69324651

>>69303608
>Nijisanji will use BPD as an excuse and will look up her medical history
what? I thought that screenshot was fake out the ass

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