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>EN finally overstepped and pissed Tazumi off
>He bore witness to every single fuck up EN had done from Yugo all the way to the present and shat his pants
>he'd just watched the unsanctioned video that was about to turn the prepared CEO bow speech he was about to give into a farce, making him look like a jackass right in front of the investors and the whole world
>Tazumi is now fed the fuck up and will finally send someone down from on high to start tardwrangling his dead branch
>He caught them with their pants down as they were writing down Scarle's termination/smear campaign and was thus cancelled
>Scarle happily does her Valentine's stream

>> No.69159150

rrat of disappointment

>the clique fled to Japan to beg Tazumi for protection from embezzlement charges
>they are gangbanged by several staff and investors
>when the dust settles, the clique maintains their power of being the middleman between EN talents and HQ
>nothing changes
>future NijiEN talents go through the same thing: align with the clique or suffer

>> No.69159383

Best rrat:
Elira and co gets to court against nijisanji for embezzlement/misappropriation of funds, gets thrown into jail due to this.

>> No.69160029

It's almost certain that the company will be audited by Canada for PIPEDA violations
Before that happens they're going to want to do a self audit and go through the company with a fine tooth comb to find out what has been going on

>> No.69160384

>>69158754
It's weird people aren't talking about it more. This yab forced the fucking CEO to bow in apology, heads are absolutely going to roll because of that. At bare minimum, a huge chunk of the actual management is getting fired and replaced for extreme incompetence.
If the talent manager rrat is true they will probably get terminated or long-term suspended. And if the embezzlement rrat is even 10% true everybody involved is losing their job and getting blacklisted from the entire industry.

>> No.69160403

>>69159150
Selling Elira to a JAV studio would be based and hot

>> No.69160420

>>69158754
What changes is he gonna make?

>> No.69160601

>>69160384
The only way to salvage NijiEN at this point is to destroy the clique and make sure something like it never sprouts back up.

>> No.69160760

>>69160384
TOTAL
LIVERS
DEATH

>> No.69161027

>>69158754
The nips are taking the absolute piss out of Riku for clasping his arms behind his back while giving a public apology like a dumbass who can't into shazai, but that's a classic body language for anger and his face all but confirms it. Beginning to wonder if Elira actually made the right choice running to Japan

>> No.69161145

>>69158754
Can’t wait to read Elira, Enna, and Millie’s graduation notices with full bulletpoints.

Sieg Zaion.

>> No.69161307

>>69160384
>talent manager rrat
>embezzlement rrat
QRD

>> No.69161512

>>69161027
>Stay in Canada, get buttfucked by Doki for harassment to suicide
>Flee to Japan, get bukake'd by shareholders and Tazumi-sama for embezzlement and gross negligence
I would not want to be Elira right now

>> No.69161537

>>69161307
Tldr: Elira (because seniority/ Japanese fluency/ Niji management incompetence) and her nepohires (Millie and Enna) became defacto management
There are other threads currently up about this but aforementioned trio got WAY more sponsorships than organs who actually pulled in big numbers (/b/omu and doki)

>> No.69161553

>>69161307
Talent manager rrat
>Elira and other livers ended up acting as middle management due to translation skills, and is mostly responsible for this mess, while upper corporate is mostly in the dark and learning about all this at the same time we do essentially
embezzlement rrat
>estension of talent manager rrat, this says Elira abused her position to funnel merch and opportunities to herself and her favorites and possibly actual misuse of company funds

>> No.69161616
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>>69159150
>embezzle Japanese company
>flee to Japan
I know niji livers are retarded but really....?

>> No.69161630
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>>69161512
>Millie helps her move to Ph
>gets assassinated Gundam Hathaway style

>> No.69161649

>>69161512
>>69161616
She'll be fine

>> No.69161685

>>69159150
Probably how this ends too.

>> No.69161692

>>69161307
>>69161553
Weren't there artists saying Nijisanji was supposed to pay them but Doki ended up doing it herself? Where did those intended payments go?

>> No.69161726

>>69161616
Rui-nee is so cute
It always makes me see lonely hag vchuubas who want kids but can't have them

>> No.69161784

>>69161692
Elira buying an apartment

>> No.69161868

>>69161307
Adding to what the others said, Elira has also gotten 9 sponsorships in 2023 in comparison to the 2 that the other girls got. Something is fishy there and it isn't just her stank.

>> No.69161883

>>69161553
Pomu and Selen were really merchandised and promotion starved compared to their relative popularity while Elira was swimming in it.
There's definitely some perpetuation of favoritism going on, no manager trying to optimize profits would've done this.

>> No.69161997

>>69161868
And the girls that got 2 were only Pomu and Finana, btw

>> No.69162038

>>69160420
his gender. tazumi-chan will be forgiven for all her actions

>> No.69162105

>>69161307
>talent manager rrat
They hired a rodent to be a manager
>embezzlement rrat
Riku embezzled all the branch profits and purchased an offshore vessel registered in the Cayman Islands with it

>> No.69162160

>>69160384
That assumes CEO actually cares about how the company is run and isn't just using it as a personal piggybank

>> No.69162194

>>69161726
Every single 'sad hag' is just a roastie who was sold on sex with Chadichi and money from ojisans and then settle with Junichibetabux salaryman in her 30s and then that didn't work out quite as planned.

Every one of them acted maliciously and will never get what they truly wanted as a result.

>> No.69162197

>>69161027
>that's a classic body language for anger and his face all but confirms it
That was my first impression as well when I saw the thumbnails. Dude looks PISSED.

>> No.69162241

>>69162105
>offshore vessel
Well I would hope that a vessel is offshore kek

>> No.69162299

>>69159150
Nobody is going to join NijiEN anymore.

>> No.69162324

>>69162160
Even if completely motivated by greed, most would be pretty upset if their cash cow suddenly stopped working

>> No.69162489

>>69162299
they could just debut for clout and zaion out.

>> No.69162590

>>69162489
>clout
At this point, you'd just look desperate, stupid, and/or a snake for joining NijiEN

>> No.69163021

>>69162160
>using it as a personal piggybank
That's even more incentive to do something, ironically. When the stock takes hit and shareholders kick up enough of a fuss the CEO has to do a naked dogeza on camera, it's in his best interests to find out wtf is going on. Riku is by no means competent but he loves money, and if there one thing you don't fuck with, it's a rich person's money.

>> No.69163302

it was riku's fault for being a cheapskate. Do you blame the child if he accidentally shot someone when you are the one leaving the gun in the open.

>> No.69163376

>>69162299
>60 views for the last 6 months
>nothing you do help your channel grows
>Nijisanji has an opening
Shu is currently streaming to 3.7k people. Most people who watch streamers don't live in this shithole (or even twitter). Even at this point, if NijiEN shuts the fuck up, they can recover.

>> No.69163438

>>69162299
Anyone who joins niji now is desperate and will become an onahole

>> No.69163474

>>69163376
Literally the only people still watching are terminally parasocial. They have no prospective growth at this point.

>> No.69163483

>>69162489
what clout? the newest gens aren't really doing all that well. i mean yeah, going from a 1view to 3view is fine, if you hop out you'll become a 2view for the rest of your vtuber lifespan. Not really worth it

>> No.69163597

>>69163376
They lost sponsors over this, their growth is capped below their competitors.
To be a viable investment, they're required to recover not just to growth, but to growth ABOVE PAR. They're fucked.

>> No.69163712

>>69162105
Is Riku evading Russia sanctions? This could go way deeper, especially if Iran or North Korea are involved. As a UN investigator I'm looking into this.

>> No.69163744

>>69163302
If you're American, you just send thoughts and prayers and say "no way to prevent this"

>> No.69163786

>>69163597
Yeah this is something others might not be looking at. Niji can still "survive" but it'll be in no way a top competitor if things keep getting worse or stay the same. We won't see the company go bankrupt or anything but they'll fade into irrelevance as more people go to talk about their favorite indies or actual company's that don't have anywhere near as bad word of mouth. Nijisanji needs a complete overhaul or a restructuring in management if it wants to maintain status as "one of the big three"

>> No.69163798

>>69163376
Isn't shu the one with the most toxic Fandom when you exclude Vox? He has really dedicated fujos last I recall

>> No.69163931

>>69161868
>Adding to what the others said, Elira has also gotten 9 sponsorships in 2023 in comparison to the 2 that the other girls got. Something is fishy there
That level of favoritism would explain why Elira was going so far too to help management with their smear campaign against Selen. That Nijisanji decided to put their main smear video on her channel instead of the NijiEN main channel was curious. Would make sense if she is closer with management than most of the other livers.

>> No.69163940

>>69161553
>while upper corporate is mostly in the dark
When will these nips learn...

>> No.69163975
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69163975

>>69162197
>Someone will need to do ritual seppuku...
>... BUT IT WON'T BE ME!

>> No.69164010

>>69160384
>heads are absolutely going to roll
i'll believe it when i see it. so far there has been no sign that the company even thinks about managing EN.

>> No.69164088

>>69161784
Buying an apartment in canada? She must have embezzled millions

>> No.69164101

>>69158754
>a meteor is currently headed towards earth
>will end all human life
>no more suffering from vtuber drama
>no more pain from backstabbing snakes
>only the purification of humankind in apocalyptic planetary fire

>> No.69164123

>>69163302
Exactly. If only he invested in hiring actual staff for EN, the clique wouldn't have even formed in the first place. Elira et al are still assholes for abusing the power they got, but Riku/NijiJP's cheapness is the root of the situation their EN branch is in currently.

>> No.69164135

>>69164088
This but actually.

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69164142

>>69159150
Yakuza gets involved, makes the girls do videos shoving eels into their pussies, to pay their protection.

>> No.69164272

>>69162160
this disaster burned like 150million of company value through stock drops, after they JUST spent an insane amount of money to buyback stocks like a month or two ago to stabilize the price. additionally japan has entered recession. This isnt the time where companies can afford to have absolute retards ruin the brand in most of the world

>> No.69164302

>>69163786
Pretty safe to assume nothing's changed without a public gutting of management, along with either a miracle absolving of talent or outright terminations.
Right now it's rotten to the core and nothing less would begin to rebuild trust. Ain't nobody wanting to touch that shit with a ten foot pole.

>> No.69164333

>>69163474
Cope
>>69163597
>They lost sponsors over this, their growth is capped below their competitors.
Most of them said they'll be back when NijiEN "fixes" its issue, meaning they'll just wait until things die out and go back to normal.
>>69163786
>Nijisanji needs a complete overhaul or a restructuring in management
Point in case even for a lot of bystandard fans. Niji has an "out".

>> No.69164381

>>69163712
All you'll find is weapons grade managerial retardation. Which sadly is just as deadly as WMD's but completely legal

>> No.69164669

>>69159150
Hot as this rrat is especially to see what Rosemi and Finana's JAV or Gravure video will look like, there's no way that the clique will be able to maintain the power they once had. They're too much of a liability to keep around and they don't make anywhere near the amount of money the JP branch does to justify protecting them. And that's not taking into account the fact that they potentially lost sponsorships, business opportunities, possibly even convention appearances for their parent company.

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69165045

I've got work to do so can't do much rrating until later

don't forget
>>68996770
>>69014403
>>69029124
>>69120405
>>69120347
>>/vt/thread/69048760
>>69142853

There's no way Nijisanji was unified in the idea to make the Elira video and then the Riku statement back to back right?
Why else would they damage control tweet about it before Riku's video? https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672

>> No.69165194

>>69161307
https://rentry.org/thegodrrat

>> No.69165202
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>>69165045
https://rentry.org/thegodrrat

Still waiting for the raid to lose steam, hoping people are still digging behind the scenes.

>> No.69165248

>>69165202
I just woke up, so I don't know what happened to the god rrat, are jannies deleting again or just too many raiders popping up while the wise men are asleep?

>> No.69165282

>>69165045

Riku's video was designed to placate the masses with an apology and a "we will do better", as well as to reassure the investors that everything is okay. Ultimately it was to put the drama to bed and try to move on from the dogshit as quickly as possible.

Elira's video was made to try discredit Dokibird, try to sway public opinion so Riku wouldn't feel pressured to investigate NijiEN, and it's to try to make herself look like a victim before any lawsuit or internal investigation reaches her. Ultimately Elira's goal was to try salvage the status quo and keep her clique in power.

Different parties, different goals.

>> No.69165384

>>69165248
For some reason the only threads I see get nuked are ones calling out the raid.

>> No.69165498

>>69165282
>Different parties, different goals.
yes exactly
it seems like Elira's goal was retarded and spiteful, whereas Riku actually had a surprisingly decent and professional statement, which is why I think there was no way NijisanjiJP approved it especially considering the timing

>> No.69165531

>>69165248
Latest GUrrat thread was deleted in real-time, around when the GUrrat thread mentioned /vt/ jannies possibly being paid off by Niji. I would say we're getting close if there's this much pushback from NDF and janny alike.

>> No.69165585

>>69161692
I got a question about these artist's payments. If it's true that Niji does not and has never paid for commission and events of any kind, not even for the JPs, and livers always foot the bill, why would Doki suddenly expect the company to pay these various commissions? Surely she understood this while under the pajeets?
Also has any other niji experienced similar problems? Was it only Selen that had that problem? Yeah she was being targeted by The Clique, but other Nijis were also being targeted right? Were other non-Clique members promised having their commissions covered, but then not?

>> No.69165621

>>69165248
We're within the time of day the nijijannies are awake and nuke any GURR threads on sight. might even be on an auto-delete script. Any threads up about it started getting killed about an hour ago (the same time as before), so we'll just have to lay low until they go back to sleep

>> No.69165701

>>69165498
Will we see the great divide, which will end in the two new companies, Niji and Sanji?

>> No.69165736

>>69165531
I agree, but the GUR has spread beyond VT so there are also lot of reddit and twitter tourists shitting
I still don't think the deletions make sense still but I can at least see this is a potential reason

>>69165621
damn well, we might be able to just keep doing things such as
>>69120347
or call it general nijisanji rrat like this current thread

>> No.69165756

>>69165531
I've already seen it breaking containment on my xitter For You tab, it'd be funny if they overcorrect covering up here and it gets to a point where social media talks about it but here of all places is all oy vey shut it down

>> No.69165816

>>69165756
yup, yesterday's constant shut down of the GUR only made the discussion breach containment much faster

>> No.69165822

>>69165736
>the GUR has spread beyond VT
proofs? I want to belieb

>> No.69165838

>>69165282
I feel like if only Riku's statement came out the situation would be under control for Niji again.
Normies and Nijifans would have been placated.

>> No.69165905

>>69165822
just go on twitter and type "grand unifying rrat" it'll come up in the search

>> No.69165934

>>69159150
I believe this rrat.

>t. investor

>> No.69165953

>>69160029
Realistically the only way thats actually happening is if the company agrees to cooperate.
Doki/Selens status as an international contractor/employee would require her to agree that all contract and work related disputes would be arbritated under Japanese law (as its typically done under the companys home nation)
While some countries go "NUH UH!" to stuff like this. They are still pretty much impotent unless the company has a physical presence in that country, which would negate the need for them to be an international contractor.

For serious crimes wherein the state would be the one prosecuting such as large scale financial crime or physical harm. Then extradition treaties may come into play. But this is primarily a civil matter.

So Anycolor can walk away from and all the Canadian government can do is stomp their feet and try to coerce Youtube into helping them pursue a chunk of the livers revenue. Which Youtube is very unlikely to agree to cooperate with.

>> No.69166059

>>69165585
I guess this payment problem started after Noor was out, and the reason why Selen is being targeted hard by the clique is that she made a lot of projects

>> No.69166152

>>69165822
https://x.com/VT_Screens/status/1757832888601751563?s=20

>> No.69166197

>>69166059
She paid for a lot of them herself or every single one, which means that the Nijisanji money went elsewhere.

>> No.69166248

>>69162160
There is no way in hell he wants to supplement 5 vtubers who can't make money. At least three of them are going to graduate.

>> No.69166250

>>69164333
>>69164302
yeah as said Niji has an "Out" its just a matter of "when are they going to take it, if they do?"

>> No.69166256

>>69166152
I wonder if Elira saw that shit and immediately started shitting bricks.
She knows that we know that she knows she's fucked.

>> No.69166262

>>69165953
Sure, if Anycolor wants to drop all its future Canadian business dealings. Not happening.
Something's gonna give and the livers are expendable.

>> No.69166370

he is hiring a high schooler for minimum wage and part-time to manage EN talents.
He doesnt give a shit.
He never gave a shit
He will never give a shit.
If EN gets more annoying, its just gonna get axed.
Human lives mean nothing to rich people.

>> No.69166427

>>69164101
Two more decades! Possibly even less. Also, watch the sun. Meteors got nothing on what the sun will do.

>> No.69166467

>>69125838
They probably started to have mental breakdowns or panic attacks the moment the gurrat started to take form.
Now they definitely don't want to look at the site save for Agent LK and people like Elira who can't stand not knowing despite malding to hell and back when they see stuff they don't like.

>> No.69166483

>>69165585
I think it's like this, the chuuba finds an artist for a project related to her persona, asks price and everything like a normal person does, but then, since she doesn't own the IP to the character, she sends the details to the company, which makes the contract with the artist and deals with the legal stuff, then the chuuba sends the money to the company which sends the money to the artist once they receive the assets completed
so if the vtuber sends the money to the company but the company never sends it to the artist then that's when the vtuber has to pay from their pocket directly to the artist
the other way it might work is if the company takes the money out of the vtuber's next paycheck but still doesn't send it to the artist
if I'm wrong someone please correct it

>> No.69166503
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>>69164010
>so far there has been no sign that the company even thinks about managing EN.
It is the opposite actually. Take a look at the recruitment page on their website.
>https://www.anycolor.co.jp/recruit
This section is solely for the JP site, but using a tool like Google Translate you can see a lot of job openings specifically for their overseas branches. For the ones specifically relevant to NijiEN, these include
>In charge of English-speaking YouTube channel operations
>Urgent Recruitment: Program production director for English-speaking countries
>Urgent Recruitment: English speaking project manager
>Overseas strategy and overseas talent manager
> Uregent recruitmentVTuber_Overseas Sales
>Recruitment of Canadian residents_Overseas strategy and overseas talent manager
>Bilingual program production support office
>VTuber_English supervision part-time job (We are looking for support staff for the team that produces the program (one-minute English program). We are looking for people who have mastered not only Japanese but also English beyond daily conversation.)
>Overseas business translation part-time job

Its easy to assume that right now NijiJP's current investigation has turned up a lot of red flags. Even if what they found was just the tip of the iceberg, that's already a bad sign that Elira and friends + EN management had been lying to them about so many things for possibly a year or more. If anything it potentially shows JP's commitment to fixing EN right now, and possibly shuttering it if it ends up being impossible. It also makes you wonder why the grand rrat threads were being deleted. Was it just some rogue Nijijanny doing it to protect his oshis, or could this have been done in the hopes that EN's offending parties don't see it and try to cover up more of their crimes?

>> No.69166515

>>69166152
I was the one who sent this, I'm also the anon who made the first thread, then went to sleep. The people MUST know. The truth shall set all of us free(from Kurosanji)

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>>69163786
Tldr, they're now pic related

>> No.69166590

>>69158754
>>69159150
The thing that speaks the most for the rrat of hope is that he will forever be branded as a weak and inept leader if he doesn’t absolutely annihiliate the clique and it’s members after forcing him through all this humiliation and damage to the brand, whether he actually wants to or not doesn’t really matter, he’s kinda forced to.

>> No.69166589

>>69158754
En management and riku should go to jail along with the clique. No compromise.

>> No.69166591

>>69166483
From the artist's mouths, the company couldn't get the contracts straight even after multiple revisions/resends. Utterly incompetent.

>> No.69166646

>>69166256
if any parties involved had the sense to dismiss the rrats, this would be nothing. but it seems like when it's accurate enough the clique can't help letting this stuff get to them. see: /vt/ parody stream

>> No.69166658

>>69166503
Kek, that's pretty funny actually. Panic mode

>> No.69166698

>>69166515
o7 let the [unpaid site staff] dilate

>> No.69166700

>>69136336
Elira probably woke up to a constant social media ping sound only to realize her coworkers had done something stupid, majorly stupid, that compromised their security. And worst yet. Gave anons a trail to follow, RRATS.
Also confirmed the NIJI EN members browsing this board.
It was definitely going downhill after that. And probably pushed Pomu out finally. She's Otaku enough to now that this site is too much of a hazard to reference that hard.

>> No.69166718

>>69158754
>Find out about the atrocities the trio committed
>Force them to publish that video (or else) to get their rep down even at the cost of his company's value
The unsung hero.

>> No.69166845

>>69166262
What Canadian business dealings?
They have no physical presence in Canada. Their Canadian customers are paying money to them through an American big tech platform or buying merch off of foreign sites.

>> No.69166895

My Rrat

>Nijisanji makes the termination notice based on Eliras narrativfe
>Shit goes wild and Riku is forced to make his video to the shareholders.
>Elira, knowing that Riku is pissed forces other Nijis to push her hit piece video in an attempt to Double down and shift blame to Selen before Riku could address the situation.
>Its another PR failure and Riku is gigapissed that the EN branch damaged his company greatly TWICE in such a short span

>> No.69167015

>>69166845
In fact they may not have even registered their company with the CRA (Canada Revenue Agency)
There are still ways to pay taxes and operate without doing so as a foreign based company, with how hard every other international branch crashed and burned it would not shock me in the slightest

>> No.69167038

>>69166503
>Urgent recruitment
Holy fuck, I can just imagine how badly managed EN is from how many positions they are recruiting for.

Also this is supplemental evidence to support the existence of gurrat

>> No.69167040

Has anyone brought up the disproportionate amount of collab merch deals Elira got outside of here? Would get some heads scratching, surely

>> No.69167094

if riku isn’t a total retard he’ll hire a lawyer who can speak jp and eng as an independent auditor to go figure out wtf is going on

then when they come back with evidence of wrongdoing, he can just go “whoopsie, didn’t know!” and nuke the branch

it’s the best move for niji corporate both legally and for PR

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69167093

>>69165822
They have their own rrat discussions by now.
A bad imitation. Simulacra and Simulation

>> No.69167128

>>69166503
Anon, it's super clear that most of the trouble Chuubas have lost access to their accounts or are being observed. The ones that are not streaming or barely doing anything are 100% being scrutinized by NIJI upper management. I still believe at minimum we will see a few graduations or a termination but not right now. They have to wait for things to calm down before they can throw whoever needs to be thrown out of their ride while also showing that they are finally giving a fuck with this restructuring.
My best guess is that they are going to can Elira or pull a Noor but she won't be anywhere near EN anymore.

>> No.69167139

>>69167038
It all but confirm the king-rrat since they're more or less hiring a whole new branch in terms of admin and management positions.

>> No.69167146

>>69167040
https://i.4cdn.org/vt/1708012419713890.png

>> No.69167174

>>69167038
>this is supplemental evidence to support the existence of gurrat
they had to clear out their incompetent puppets and try to replace them with actual hires
but how will they prevent those new hires from getting mislead immediately by upper EN management, like Zaion's trainee manager?
The fact they put up a new translator listing and raised the english requirements directly supports the GURRAT and Sayu's claim that livers became laisons to JP due to translators being needed

>> No.69167184

>>69166503
Did they purge the existing folks from those positions or did they literally just open up new positions because they had not enough staff in EN?

>> No.69167196

>>69167146
that's not even subtle what the fuck

>> No.69167201

>>69166503
>https://www.anycolor.co.jp/recruit
Does anyone know when these job postings appeared? Would be funny if it's all recent

>> No.69167209

>>69167146
No, I meant on other sites. Was thinking of doing that but fuck twitter lol

>> No.69167211

>>69166152
There's a rentry. It's much less sensationalized and less entertaining, but more grounded. I have no link to it.

>> No.69167266

>>69167146
That is a smoking gun if I've ever seen one, it's basically a scorching crater of circumstantial evidence.

>> No.69167268

>>69136336
>>selen
>>uki
>>elira
>>kyo
>>doppio
>>sonny
>>aster
>>kotoka
>>finana
>>petra
>>rosemi
>>shu (men
was Mysta not busy as well? His twitter posts about waking up to a discord shit storm and not having a clue what happened with the GC stream seem to indicate this

>> No.69167288

>>69162160
Stocks are close to hit sub 3k. Even if this is a vanity project, I bet he's pissed, especially because he had to bow to the gaijins.

>> No.69167301

>>69167093
They clearly can't think outside of the box.

>> No.69167311

>>69165953
Fundamental rights and protections of the country the talent lives in cannot be waived under those contracts.

>> No.69167395

>>69167093
any discussion about the GUR elsewhere is impossible, it will be struck down with "it came from 4chan"
they don't know how much Vtuber drama has been exposed directly, and truthfully from 4chan over the years, like it's actually kind of retarded how much the truth comes out here and how many vtubers leak or self-report

>> No.69167437

>>69167093
>a 4chan post says
>so it must be true

They are morons.

>> No.69167461

>>69167311
People don't seem to know contract law at all, primarily it's local law that provides the framework in which a contract can function where you're at. If a contract is formed in a way that is illegal there is no way in a democratic country for you to sign away your rights since they supersede any and all wordings of a contract. Anything OUTSIDE the law is up to a court of law but that shit is pretty similar in most places that aren't outright shitholes.

>> No.69167506

>>69167094
Well I guess that is the best scenario. Though there's a chance he goes full retard being unable to swallow his pride and doubles down into blaming selen for everything while covering up everything while slowing removing the rotten parts

>> No.69167513

>>69162194
seems quite specific and believable.
based if true.

>> No.69167591

>>69167461
Yup, even if the country is japan, they must still operate under Canadian law, and they bust have a Canadian biz tax number and etc and agree to Canadian Labor laws for people they hire from Canada and working in Canada. Contractor or not.

>> No.69167634

>>69166845
They may not have a physical presence in Canada, but beyond attending some Canadian conventions in the past, some of the livers they've hired are Canadian. That means that so long as they are doing business in this country, they must follow its laws.
And considering that one of Anycolor's new jobs specifically relates to being a strategist/talent manager of Canadian talents, they are absolutely taking the current situation seriously.

>> No.69167674

>>69166590
Boomer's are definitely going to have a good time talking shit about the younger generation and how they can't do shit kek.

>> No.69167715

>>69167506
If he keeps doing that someone has to tell him that his EN branch WILL collapse. Regardless of whether the truth is on his side, and it's clearly not. This whole thing has long crossed the watershed line.

>> No.69167799

>>69160384
People aren't talking about it more because normies think that Elira, Vox and Ike were held at gunpoint when in actuality it's the clique running rampant that led to shit hitting the fan

>> No.69167815

>>69167591
>>69167634
I meant to specify this in >>69167015
even if they don't have any registration with the CRA, they are responsible for their Canadian employee and their operations in Canada

>The Personal Information Protection Act or PIPA, the relevant privacy law in British Columbia where Doki resides, has been thrown around a lot. AnyColor (Nijisanji) is a publicly traded Japanese corporation based in Tokyo, PIPA generally applies to organizations operating in British Columbia, regardless of whether they are based in the province or not.

https://www.bclaws.gov.bc.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/03063_01
3(1) Subject to this section, this Act applies to every organization..
1 - "organization" includes a person, an unincorporated association, a trade union, a trust or a not for profit organization, but does not include
1(a) an individual acting in a personal or domestic capacity or acting as an employee, (b) a public body, (c) the Provincial Court, the Supreme Court or the Court of Appeal, (d) the Nisg̱a'a Government, as defined in the Nisg̱a'a Final Agreement, or (e) a private trust for the benefit of one or more designated individuals who are friends or members of the family of the settlor;

>AnyColor does not fall into any of these definitions clearly, however, under the Tax Act, foreign employers with employees working in Canada are required to obtain a Canadian tax identification number and open a payroll account with the Canada Revenue Agency. Therefore, incorporated businesses must ensure that they comply with PIPA's provisions, and while PIPA's definition of "organization" may not explicitly mention incorporated businesses, they are typically considered within the scope of the law and must adhere to its requirements regarding the protection of personal information.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/foreign-workers/business-legitimacy.html
>Foreign-based employers: If you're a foreign-based employer without a Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) business number and your business address and operation are outside of Canada, submit your contract or invoice for the goods or services that you're providing in Canada (which means they have to pay tax, which means they are subject to Canadian law in regards to their resident employee)

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>>69167146
with links

>> No.69167904

>>69167815
Based lawyer anon I kneel

>> No.69167925

>>69167395
>they don't know how much Vtuber drama has been exposed directly, and truthfully from 4chan over the years, like it's actually kind of retarded how much the truth comes out here and how many vtubers leak or self-report
Name three that are 100% verifiably true and not just headcanon.

>> No.69168076

>>69159150
>>69160403
This, plus she loses a couple fingers. As is tradition.

>> No.69168121

>>69167815
>PIPA
so shes involved too

>> No.69168132

>>69160403
I mean she's doing it already, might as well film it

>> No.69168137

>>69167925
>Tsunderia
>Idol
>Akioair

>> No.69168163

>>69161145
The bullet points were the clique. If it's coming from JP it'll probably be more coherent. Probably...

>> No.69168169

>>69167925
>Eileen drama (Comcost and Moe)
>Mocca drama (too many to count, but it goes back to Elira too. Mocca was a terminal self-poster)
>Tsunderia collapse (Kamiko Kana was a self-poster)

These are verifiably true in the archives, I'm not going to spoon feed you if you're this new.
Look at /wvt/ for easy examples of this at the 1view level on a near daily basis

>> No.69168201

>>69163744
yeah so only the unregistered niggers can have and sell weapons to shooters. great move

>> No.69168296

>>69166197
Elira's apartment

>> No.69168298

>>69159150
Imagine how fucking stupid you'd have to be to join nijien now. Even if you went in with a plan to suck Elira's clit you'd be competing with a bunch of other people trying to do the same

>> No.69168313

>>69167395
4chan has free speech and thus the truth can be told (sometimes).

Reddit and the rest have fart sniffers who believe curating the truth to protect retarded people is based.

>> No.69168314

>>69168137
>>69168169
Literal who's and a refusal to elaborate.

>> No.69168365

>>69167146
>>69167040
>Has anyone brought up the disproportionate amount of collab merch deals Elira got outside of here?
Not yet, but after leading the Nijisanji smear campaign against Selen even the Reddit crowd will begin to notice that Elira was unusually eager to side with management. She might not have been part of the management staff but she obviously was their favorite EN liver.

>> No.69168369

>>69168314
Kys tourist.
Never post here again.

>> No.69168405

>>69168313
Shitposting isn't free speech mana from heaven, anon

>> No.69168408

>>69167925
NijiEN being /here/, the secret GS stream is proof that they cared until this entire situation blew up and the narrative got out of control.

>> No.69168472

>>69167040
Someone make a video scrolling down Niji En's merch posts and have a counter for each VTuber.

>> No.69168478

>>69166503
This would be insane if true but what if a Nijisanji member was one of the jannies? That would be how the gurrat threads keep getting deleted.

>> No.69168520

>>69168405
That's great sweatie, but reddit is shit and you're a faggot.

>> No.69168531

>>69168405
I think you know what he's talking about. No need to be rude but if you must, keep at it.

>> No.69168551

>>69168314
>I don't know the medium sized companies nor small companies
>You are not spoonfeeding me and writing an entire document to explain things to me
retardchama, that is not the own you think it is

>> No.69168577

>>69168472
PARROT YOU FANTASTIC INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE I WANT TO BE IN THE VIDEO
PUT ME IN THE VIDEO

>> No.69168648

>>69168577
Fuckin pags

>> No.69168659

>>69168577
PARROT DON'T PUT HIM IN THE VIDEO!!!
DEW IT, DESTROY HIS WISH!!!

>> No.69168686

>>69168551
If something is true you can just point to the fucking thing and explain it in a couple sentences. It's fictional bullshit if you have to bring out the polaroids and string.

>> No.69168690

>>69167715
Man just imagining how it goes down cracks me up.

>Nijisanji: sues selen for defamation of character, slander(such as claiming bullying/harassment and even naming people)
>Defendant: Objection! Every statement and response from defendant to the statements of NIJISANJI has been subtle agreements to the initial statements of NIJISANJI
>NIJISANJI: B-b-but she commited sudoku which led me to give such statements, therefore she is at fault!!!

And I don't know shit about law so don't take this seriously

>> No.69168722

Is there any clique fanart of this drama?
I want to see the three clique members sitting at a table drinking tea and looking at documents with big red X'es on them.
Would look really nicely on compilation images, or next to an image of three of them in court.

>> No.69168726

>>69167815
This would require Anycolor to regard and label its livers as employees.
Which they are unlikely to do. The standard in the industry is for them to be contractors. Which is pretty common in the media/entertainment world.

>> No.69168782

>>69167506
I dont see Riku going full retard, if only because his statement directly contradicts a lot of what NijiEN listed in their reports. In cases where there's a lot of conflicting information, it's fair to fall back on the CEO's word as law.
Of course, because of the sheer lack of trust in NijiEN amongst fans and normalfags, and because of the damage Elira's clique caused to NijiEN's reputation, drastic measures will have to be taken to rebuild EN's reputation. Even if it means a full termination of the clique, a full termination of the offending managers, and rebuilding the branch from scratch.

>>69168478
Nah, that's not likely. You'd have to be a luckshitter to get into both NijiEN and become a janny, and at that point you may as well apply to join the lottery.
It's more than likely that a NijiEN talent or a friend of a friend of a friend is friend with a Janny here, and even then that's a stretch. Its just more likely that a janny here is a fan of the company, just like there being a fandead mod that deleted threads pertaining to Rushia's drama.

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>>69158754

>> No.69168891

>>69168686
it's really not anon, shit is from 4 years ago, it's in the archives, do some work yourself like everyone else already is rather than shitting up the discussion

>> No.69168931

>>69168722
Would be better if they are all staring at a document while panicking, Elira completely whited out on the spot, Enna laughing and Millie just mad. Everyone else scared to death.

>> No.69168967

>>69167674
No seriously imagine this guy coming up to his dick-ass billionaire grandfather and having to tell the old man he got cucked out of his own company by a jrpg dragon girl and a man who does rape asmr. At this point it’s break the clique or sudoku in shame.

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69169003

>>69168577
Choke on one million dicks and suffocate

>> No.69169039

>>69168891
>shitting up the discussion
but that's the purpose of this website

>> No.69169094

>>69168931
nah, the goal is to show them being smug about what they're doing, to build an image that's easy to feel negatively about

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>>69168722
Them getting oblite rrat ed

>> No.69169241

>>69160384
>actual management
isn't the head manager for NijiEN a guy who can't speak English with no experience as a manager and with little to no knowledge of vtubing? I'm pretty sure management is just a bunch of Riku's cronies and sycophants. Not to say heads won't roll, I just don't think there's many actual managers for NijiEn

>> No.69169244

>>69167925
>>69168314
>>69168686
Why would it even matter if anything was ”exposed” here?
This is an imageboard to discuss vtubers, people may figure things out through discussions and comparing/compiling evidence here, and sometimes evidence may originate from here due to leakers.

I don’t see why you would expect people to need to ”prove” the importance or significance of this place to you?

Do you have some personality disorder or something?

>> No.69169295

>>69167038
>>69166503
Is it possible to check if they have been looking for these positions recently or for a long time ago, because if its the first one then it just adds strength to the gurrat

>> No.69169345

Has Riku Tazuki ever had to apologize publicly before this? (because of some NijiJP drama or the other failed branches)

>> No.69169344

>>69159150
this

>> No.69169377

>>69169241
If the NijIndia staff really fucked off then yeah, there was probably no one who could actually manage them

>> No.69169410

>>69169345
Tazumi, whatever

>> No.69169519

>>69169345
He'll bow again before this is over

>> No.69169620

>>69168782
>drastic measures will have to be taken to rebuild EN's reputation.
There was a thread yesterday about how this is going to realistically going to play out, but the paths all look really bad for NijiEN
If they wanted to just say fuck it, and merge NijiEN with main branch like they did with KR and ID, it would look really bad for investors. Especially because overseas expansion was a huge point in their financial report
Full termination of the clique, mananger and so on, would make them lose Vox and Elira, who are the JP and CN posterchildren. This would also be bad for their reputation in JP, as it makes their management look incompetent
Doing nothing and trying to push through would likely not really work, as the reputational damage is too great. EN sphere will never let them get away with this, and NijiEN is going to forever be a black company meme, where even fans openly ask livers in chat to graduate and to get away from the evil company

>> No.69169701

>>69166895
three times (termination letter, hit piece, follow-up tweets to hit piece), but yeah

>> No.69169846

>>69169244
/vt/ and /a/ are schizos who think they're more relevant than they are and legitimately believe vtubers and (non-english speaking) mangaka are reading their threads and reacting to the contents. Sacrificing your rationality to keep up with fanfic clucking hen gossip is only going to make you more retarded.

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>>69169295
Unfortunately, clicking on the job postings does not reveal a date posted, and while I know shit all about viewing a website's source information, I couldn't find anything there either. It may be possible to see the date posted if you were to view the information on the website hosting them, Talentio. It's basically the equivalent of canadian job hosting sites like Indeed, Monster, or technically LinkedIn. But you'd have to create an account to view them, and Talentio seems to be a website that only accepts Japanese emails and the like, obviously due to being hosted and run in Japan.

>> No.69169935

>>69169846
...mangaka read /a/?

>> No.69169966

>>69168296
Elirandrord

>> No.69170059

>>69169935
No. Only schizos believe that.

>> No.69170089

>>69169966
Elirabuhoteru

>> No.69170094

>>69158754
I mean, the situation got bad enough the CEO had to deep bow in public. Surely, SURELY, the entire EN management team will get purged, right? I can't imagine a middle manager fucking up so colossally it leads to the CEO bowing and nobody losing their job.

>> No.69170109

>>69169846
The gurrat broke containment and multiple drama youtube referenced 4chan even before that.
The more normie vtuber fans then get their news by the drama youtuber and from there it goes to the mainstream.

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>>69169846
/a/ has nothing to do with this
vtubers have been self-posting, reading, and spreading 4chan shit since /jp/ days, you need to go back

>> No.69170209

>>69158754
Dramafag Khyo posted a video

>> No.69170262

>>69169846
>Ignoring Millie's gc stream
They ARE here, Rosemi was even called a nigger once

>> No.69170284

>>69168726
It doesn't matter what Anycolor calls them. It only matters what the courts decide they are.

>> No.69170345

Hey anon, could you investigate if 9634 has also been involved in fraud. A company so cheap as to hire a student to translate legal documents for them could also be involved in tax fraud right?

That'd be great anon.

>> No.69170488

>>69165282
>>69165498
I'm thinking that they did approve it, since it serves to steer the narrative away from "Selen vs Niji" to "Selen vs Elira."

>> No.69170497

>>69170209
Its lame, don't watch it, just artists complaining.

>> No.69170564

>>69170497
watch ALL dramafags covering this disaster as it burns
Keep the bonfire going

>> No.69170623

>>69170488
I really don't know about that one, as much as I want the rrats to ascend
it just makes zero sense from a legal perspective, we can chalk up a lot of braindead legal choices on the EN side to the liason situation
Nijisanji clearly does which to slander and scare Doki out of revealing anything, but they simultaneously keep prompting her to respond
They don't benefit from shifting the narrative to vs Elira when it just makes them look even more incompetent, rather than taking heat off them

>> No.69170711

>>69170488
It makes their CEO look like a clown. They probably approved the EN management making a statement with the livers but didn't know the content of the video would be toxic sludge.

>> No.69170813

>>69170711
All those livers saying "please watch this, it's important" kek
So many layers to this disaster

>> No.69170896

>>69170813
Important.
It would mean a lot if you could take a listen, thank you.

>> No.69170926

>>69170497
isn't it more evidence of EN management being either incompetent or malicious tho?

>> No.69170960

The rrat doesn't make sense when you remember Pomu existed. She's just as senior as her and equally/more proficient in japanese than Elira and remained close with her even when she was getting fucked over by management for the last year.

>> No.69171020

>>69170623
You're probably correct. My reasoning stems entirely from my impression of Niji management as willing to throw their talents under the bus to protect their hides.

>> No.69171094

>>69170209
He is really trying tofind everything he can to continue going in.
Nijisanjis copyright war is backfired even more than first thought.

>> No.69171122

>>69170960
She was the glue holding it all together anon, a neutral entity trying to keep her and others dream alive, when she got tired she quit

>Verification not required.

>> No.69171247

>>69171020
If they wanted to use Elira as a meat shield they would just terminate her and put out some statement about how they were unaware of her bullying. This will never happen because Elira is the golden child of the branch, the person that gets all the sponsorship deals and merch while underperforming compared to Ponu.

>> No.69171460

>>69171247
If only Pomu or Selen were there to be the new golden child.. kek
Elira fucked it up for Niji in so many layers.

>> No.69171463

>>69171247
You can't just do that, a company investigates, then internally prepares reasons to fire the person so they don't get sued. They fucked up by firing Doki so quickly.

>> No.69171465

>>69168365
Yeah, the one thing that's hard to dispute is that NijiEN management is biased in favor of Elira (and by extension her clique and those on good terms with it) and against Selen and to a lesser extent Pomu. It's really just a question of if this is because NijiEN management basically *is* Elira and her clique or if it's because she just has management wrapped around her finger somehow.

>> No.69171469

>>69163474
Vivi is new and she had 1.6k ccv yesterday. Unless Vshojo starts hiring 2view shitters then Nijisanji is the place to go. Well could always wait for Holo but that’s 4-5 spots every 12-18 months

>> No.69171528

>>69171460
dont worry we still have da wose!

>> No.69171553

>>69171528
Da woes...

>> No.69171561

>>69171469
She has 1.6k during the biggest shitstorm in EN vtuber history. All eyes on them for the drama - None of these will stay

>> No.69171635

>>69171469
Is that her normal ccv, or was it boosted from all the drama going around. Genuine question for her fans

>> No.69171815

>>69170813
>>69171020
I think making all the Livers tweet that was just part of the NijiEN/clique’s efforts to implicate everyone in the drama in order to force them to defend NijiEN/clique by dragging them to their own side.

>> No.69171871

>>69161692
Elira used that money to buy herself a water scooter.

>> No.69171879

>>69171122
Pomu deserved better

>> No.69171892

>>69171815
Clever

>> No.69171899
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I'm getting a sense.

of Deja vu

>> No.69171918

>>69171561
Her, Kunai and Krisis are completely outside of thise whole shitshow. If anything, we have evidence of Krisis members being victims of the clique.
Reminder, Krisis is the ONLY EN wave without a nepohire of any kind and it is the wave JP has the most control over because they are the sister wave to the JP heroes

>> No.69171929

>>69167506
I much sooner see him outing and axing the management clique by name than that. Especially if some of the other theories are proven true, Selen will probably get off free while they bring the axe down on the clique of the gurrat is at all true.

>> No.69172034

>>69171815
You know, I personally don't think that was malice from either the clique implicating them or management throwing people under the bus, it felt more like the popular kids getting the whole class to go along with a retarded idea and it blowing up on them

>> No.69172098

>>69171635
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UChTA8kHyInr2rKZ2aBv5ULw/live?interval=d&start=1705507200000&end=1708099199999

>> No.69172117

>>69158754
it's funny how in the course of a day I went from feeling bad for (most(maybe like half)) of the nijinigger talents and shitting on Riku to feeling bad for Riku and openly shitting on the majority of the nijinigger talent

>> No.69172119

>>69161512
Elira's only option now is to flee to some third world shithole and get a plastic + gender change surgery to avoid legal persecution.
She will eventually 41% herself while self reasurring that at least she's not a 2 percenter.

>> No.69172158

>>69171469
Vivi would be a good fit for HoloEN.

>> No.69172175

>>69160403
Elvira and the clique in a future milky cat video

>> No.69172195
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>>69171892
Not totally my rrat, some other guy came up with it in one of the Scarle threads.
It’s a credible rrat desu.

>> No.69172202

>>69166503
They better be. Because they absolutely have to. Japan is in recession, they’d be real stupid to stick solely with domestic nippon cash cow and ignore overseas. Bandai knows this, gundam has to adapt. Anime production knows this, manhwa gets adapted. Past few years most entertainment agencies have been scrambling for gaijin mindshare, their measly young population alone are not enough to keep them afloat in the upcoming years of economic downturn and balooning national debt. Japan is royally fucked and they are forced to import foreigners just to man their Lawsons and Family Mart cashiers. Vtubers are no different, and foreigners want good HR and employee rights, a concept that is alien to Japan and so far Niji has lost that faith to prospective vtubers.

Niji would be really stupid to think this train can keep going forever.

>> No.69172204

>>69172158
Thematic fit yeah but she's a bit too weak.

>> No.69172238

>>69171094
Honestly, if this comes out to be the EN clique did it all Niji as a whole probably can salvage a lot of the good will, better to look a victim than the cause for issue. Even if this had to stem from their own incompetence, if they can prove they were hands off for the mess they can put everything on the clique.

>> No.69172294

>>69172098
Thanks, anon

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>>69172119
or get creampied by niji staff and investors for protection

>> No.69172332

The scarle blackshit stealth termination and associated excuse suddenly getting vaporised overnight in time for a very profitable valentines day stream is quite telling that some JPs stepped in on the dumpster fire and tried to put it out.

>> No.69172336

>>69172195
I belieb.

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>>69167093
>It's impossible to skimread allegations of you bullying someone, telling NijiJP to write 500 words, and leak the document to your friends in 2 hours

Do Redditors think everyone takes as long as they do to take a shower?

>> No.69172450

>>69172119
Just like Mysta avoiding UK taxes lmao.

>> No.69172552

>>69160601
There is no salvaging Niji EN at this point. The best we can hope for is that the ones who don't suck (TTT/Krisis/the general majority of the others) manage to get out and restart their indie careers and/or join other agencies

>> No.69172616

I think that the best way they can get out of this is do a bold step forward in vtubing like they did when they made the first male wave. They should add some external site to member perks where the talents do 18+ videos and JOI with naked avatars. With a steep entry barrier of course (at least 100$ per month) and with some nice watermarking in case videos get pirated. The money they would get from unicorns would put the stocks back into green and probably push it above what they were before they tried this bold move.

>> No.69172680

>>69172616
No

>> No.69172731
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>>69169846
You forget the part where Millie hosted a stream where she tried to make a parody of /vt/ and got in trouble for it.

>> No.69172740

>>69172195
I think this is true, Scarle has been really detached from the branch and already had a successful following beforehand which she can return to
Doki only had les than 10k subs, Nijisanji/shadow management probably did not expect her to be able to garner so much support so quickly
Scarle on the other hand, has 100k+ subscribers on PL and could easily just leave the company and return to being relatively successful, with a certainty that a good amount of her dedicated fanbase would find and follow her PL retroactively

>> No.69172793

>>69172680
Why not? You don't want to pay 100 bucks every month? Sucks to suck.

>> No.69172794

>>69172680
I agree, it should be free, utilizing MMO teledildonics in a world first

>> No.69172816

>>69172117

Same. Honestly, I don't want anycolor to fail. I want them to grab the EN branch by the balls, go over this whole fiasco with a fine-tooth comb and oust the clique.

>> No.69172838

>>69172794
I think an /asp/ie already did this

>> No.69173049

>>69172731
fucking lmao
it's already obvious that all of the clique (and LK, I'm really unsure of his allegiance) is too /here/ for their own good but it's good to have image proof
the archive is there too, she was probably ego surfing

>> No.69173220

>>69168298
I've had a 3-year plan to suck Elira's clit and I have no aspirations to be a vtuber

>> No.69173247

>>69172195
This needlessly assumes strong animosity between Scarle and Elira without much backing, all just to paint Elira as more of a cartoon villain.
Scarle probably just prefers to stay in her own lane as a general rule, so she wants nothing to do with any of it.

>> No.69173297

>>69168298
Do you think if you went into nijiEN now and be an asshole to her on purpose she would bully you into suicide? Asking for a friend.

>> No.69173384

>>69173049
There are quite a few vtubers I've seen with /vt/ on their browser before.
It's safe to assume they're all here, reading and possibly posting little bread crumbs disguised as schizo ramblings.

>> No.69173389

>>69173220
Skip the 3 year wait and just wait for her outside the Anycolor offices

>> No.69173496

>>69173247
I agree however Scarle wanting nothing to do with it supports a general idea of suppressing her now due to the having an out
I highly doubt they skinwalked her account to set her up as a falseflag rebel

>> No.69173580

>>69167093
>it's impossible to do all this in under two hours
>especially given how notoriously slow communications between livers, nijiEN and &nijiJP management are
Redditors are so fucking slow I swear to god. It was fast BECAUSE there is no communication and the clique retards are running the branch.

>> No.69173633

>>69166483
Yes, that's how it goes and they also would prefer doing it through the company to avoid possible doxxing of the vtuber.

>> No.69173712

>>69173580
yeah do they think that the slow ass communication confirmed to exist means that they aren't having a ton of communication during the biggest shitstorm they've ever had to deal with? of course it's going to be dynamic

>> No.69173736

If the black screen videos were unsanctioned, they would've been removed.

>> No.69173796

>>69167093
>Assuming there was discussion between EN and JP management at all
Clearly they’re missing the key points of the GURRAT.

>> No.69173862

>>69166370
That's for translations, not management. But yeah he clearly never cared about anything other than profit.

>> No.69173969

>>69166503
The voice content planner position is amusing to see after LK's mod's leaks.

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You know, now that I think about it I really wonder how much Mysta himself knew behind the scenes. Because he not only kept to himself and generally stayed away from most of the branch, but I think there was an instance where after he graduated Luxiem made a "paying your taxes" joke, something Mysta himself was currently going through. And it's not the first instance of them making fun of the situation, they just did with Luca and NDAs IIRC.
So now it makes me wonder if he had his own experiences with the clique and figured that all this shit would either be leaked out or would be eventually pieced together by autistic internet sleuths.

>> No.69174007

>>69173247
Wasn’t Scarle already shadow suspended at this point though?
Considering how petty Elira seems to be it might have been because Scarle has significantly higher earnings than Elira does.
But we will probably never truly know because it seems like JP came in and took control of the situation before they managed to fuck her over and complete whatever the fuck it was Elira&co were trying to do.

>> No.69174290

>>69169884
>>69169295
>>69167201
The Canadian manager and legal department are recent, not sure about the rest.

>> No.69174308

>>69173996
i don't think he foresaw the rratpocalypse but he does seem to have been confident that shit will hit the fan. elira certainly didn't.

>> No.69174312

So, assuming the clique rrat is real, Kotoka is a part of it and Elira is/was actually in the management, let's go back to the start of the year and Yozora Mel's termination due to violation of NDA.

Let's think about how it could've gone:
Jp branch reaches out to En, saying they have an off-collaboration offer with HoloJP. Being the only one actually living in Japan full time, Kotoka gets passed the news, with a note from Elira, that asks her to get some info on holo projects or stuff like that. Kotoka agrees, collab goes as planned. After stream ends, Kotoka stays a bit to get what she came for, Mel, supposedly not knowing some info was under NDA, tells her about some planned events/projects that holo had. The following days anonymous supposedly reaches out to holo management and rats Mel out. The rest we know - Mel gets terminated the next week, Kotoka fully ignores it, aside from a single tweet she does to get NDF to protect her. Holo shocked, the focus is shifted from Selen missing to Mel's termination.

Now, you might ask "what would they gain from it?" and I anwser - they hoped this would cause enough ruccuss to get eyes off Selen missing, as they already knew about the first attempt. Elira was probably shitting her pants, the same way she did when Zaion tried to jump over straight to high managment, bypassing the clique. Back then they used bullying and lying tactics, while also supposedly using Kotoka to throw Zaion under the bus. Now tho, Elira was scared someone will find out about Selen making an attempt and staying radio silent after, thus she tried to make a diversion. Kotoka was again used as an execution tool.

>> No.69174313

>>69169241
the head of en was a guy that only had experience in music he's on linkedin

>> No.69174436

>>69171122
and it's so sad she only got two sponsors when clique queen got 9

>> No.69174446

>>69174312
I already forgot about Kotoka being involved with the Mel situation, too much shit has been happening this year

>> No.69174461

>>69169345
Nope.

>> No.69174571

>>69171553
woe is she who got a beautiful tsunderia model and streamed only 7 streams

don't kid urself she would do anything for herself

>> No.69174683

>>69169345
>>69174461
the downfall of the other branches needs to be talked about more, because that's a really good point
ofc EN is bigger and more important to the JP investor confidence side of things, but the complete collapse of branches never reaching this level of acknowledgement proves it's a big deal
it's also their last branch outside of JP having already failed to expand into CN, ID and IN. If EN dies their prospects of expanding outside of Japan are well and truly dead for good.

>> No.69174696

>>69172332
and fulgur Ovid is stepping up to clear up news instead of management, fulgur management rrat?

>> No.69174776

>>69174312
wait but kotoka didn't rt?

>> No.69174875

>>69162160
He might not care about NijiEN, but he might care about his reputation if he hopes to be trusted by shareholders ever again with whatever his next project is. Not saying he’s definitely gonna fix Niji, but it would probably be in his best interest to at least make an attempt the steer the ship for once.

>> No.69174899

>>69174776
Assuming she's in the clique and seeing as she is the only one of them who is actually japanese there, they probably gave her the okay out of fear of her rating them out is what I think, but again, we never know

>> No.69174991

>>69174312
I dunno. This one's a bit too sus for me. Doesn't really explain anything new, either.

>> No.69175032

>>69167146
>>69167857
Jesas, Elira favoritism in full display

>> No.69175078

>>69174683
>>tfw Reimu announces NijiES in her channel next week

>> No.69175225

>>69160403
But elira is ugly irl

>> No.69175262

>>69167146
That gun barrel is so fucking hot it's glowing!

>> No.69175293

>>69171918
>Her, Kunai and Krisis are completely outside of this whole shitshow
>All of them except Meloco retweeted Elira blacked video and Fungus mealy mouth explanation
They too must burn.
They picked a side now they must march with the rest of them.

>> No.69175300

>>69173384
its unsurprising
/vt/ is technically the biggest en vtubing discussion currently

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>>69175078
NIJISANJI PLEASE COME TO BRAZIL
their last avenue is genuinely ES and Brazil, kek

>> No.69175369

>>69171918
>krisis isn't nepohire
nenmen used to say that Luxnoc aren't Elira nepohire too retard

>> No.69175444

>>69173736
Selen's reupload tweet must have been sanctioned then.

>> No.69175499

>>69175444
Sanctioned by whom exactly?

>> No.69175504

>>69165498
I'd believe this more if nijisanji didn't establish the pattern if going into autistic, spiteful detail of why a talent was fired

Unless elira is also in charge of creating those notices too. That's too big of a rratt though isn't it?

>> No.69175548

>>69169846
Nijisanji and Hololive both worry about rrats spreading that contain too much truth. When a scandal or stealth suspension happens there have been paid shills on /vt/ running damage control. Both companies have dirty laundry they want to hide.

NijiEN has issues with a toxic work environment and management favoritism. HoloEN has talents who hate their skimpy coomerbait designs and contract renewals over model redesigns got extremely heated in 2022.

>> No.69175568

>>69175225
Nothing a paper bag can't fix

>> No.69175631

>>69175293
Everyone knows by now that it was skinwalking. Do you think Vivi would retweet a video slandering her oshi? Yu would enjoy defending the clique that bullied him for joining an offcollab because he was too "new"?
They are streaming like nothing happened. The much more likely situation: those who aren't streaming have some heavy shit coming their way, those who are are relatively safe.
Only Claude from TTT is in danger for being Elira's best friend and hanamori nigger.

>> No.69175662

>>69165498
>"riku has surprisingly decent statement"
>Arms crossed behind his back the entire time
>Even during 90 degrees bow
Don't read what the japs are saying about his statement.

>> No.69175695

>>69175369
Shu and Uki
Aruvn would have been the nepohire but he dipped

>> No.69175715

>>69175504
After all this, you think it's farfetched that the clique keeps a list of bs for the ones they want gone?

>> No.69175775

>>69175631
management skinwalking rrat is confirmed, but the fact that Ren outright saying that it was his own conscious action make me believe Krisis and TTT are also snakes Except Meloco

>> No.69175824

>>69168842
That's well edited.

>> No.69175831

>>69175225
Prove it.

>> No.69175879

>>69175715
I think it's farfetched to think elira would be in charge of creating the notices on nijis official Twitter. Management is usually not doing hr as well. Idk I might be giving them too much credit

>> No.69175910

>>69175662
surprisingly decent is me being extremely generous by virtue of comparison to the elira blacked, actually acknowledging they made some mistakes

>> No.69175942

>>69175695
The point is all nijiEN hires after lazulight runs through Elira.
Like more than half of nijiEN livers has some connection with her, that's blatant nepotism id I ever seen one.

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>>69175831
Go to the seamonkeys dox site and SEA for yourself

>> No.69175993

>>69170488
I doubt management was involved beyond telling Elira that she could release a statement of her own without actually seeing the content of it, assuming she'd try to defuse the situation. If they saw, or god forbid actually wrote the script then I'd assume they were recently lobotomised because all it did was make their own CEO look like a stupid jackass in his own apology statement.
>>69170960
Nah, it can still work if you assume that Pomu wasn't confident enough in her Japanese to take up the role or declined because she didn't want to take on a semi-managerial role, knowing that it's a conflict of interest.

>> No.69176023

>>69175879
Learn the difference between talent managers and management retard-chama.
HR is part of management.

>> No.69176084

>>69158754
Funny because considering that he left his fucking yacht, if a huge chunk of management is fired, the rrats were false, if the clique says kiss kiss goodbye and disappear to oblivion, the rrats were true

All of that because someone was too retarded to say yes to a MV

>> No.69176113

>>69170960
>Pomu
>more proficient in japanese than Elira
Look at this fucking idiot.

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>>69175504
The termination posts that came off as incredibly vindictive was Zaion and Selen's notices. Zaion is Japanese so she doesn't need to rely on Elira to translate her wishes to Jap management. In fact, one of her reasons for termination was that she went over her manager's head to talk to the Jap manager.

And we know what Selen did to deserve Elira's wrath.

>> No.69176242

>>69175316
There are already latam dramatubers covering the situation, so if they ever step into the region and people look up their past I expect an outright hostile reaction and even comparisons to WACTOR

>> No.69176252

>>69175942
And Krisis are the only ones exempt from it is my point, they have stronger ties to JP than any of the others and look how they tried isolating them from the start. Zali is a solostreamer, Vanta and Yuyu have the same handful of collab partners and otherwise all three of them stick with each other. If they interact with "new" members they do it in a four people collab as "Krisis + X"

>> No.69176254

>>69175879
Why would she even need control of niji official twitter? She'd just need to use her exclusive communication privilege to accuse the talents. Translate the list of crimes and the rest plays to her favor.

>> No.69176292

>>69175662
Please understand, he had to hide a missing yubi for losing the Yakuza's money. Don't expect to see him without a glove ever again.

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>>69168298

sonybros...we stay winning by doing nothing

>> No.69176344

>>69176252
>they have stronger ties to JP
Until they publicly condemn the clique, they are all snakes to me.
And snakes must die.

>> No.69176386

>>69176137
this fucking board trying to make me read

>> No.69176447

>>69176252
So why would they feel the need to retweet Elira's video then?
And no, skinwalking is not confirmed in this case.

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>>69175225
This is a succesfull jav actress

>> No.69176633

>>69176601
Would

>> No.69176649

>>69165045
>>69165202
I've been asleep.
Glad to see the Grand Unifying Rrat lives on and is growing stronger, all shall now of the GURRAT.

>> No.69176660

>>69176601
asian piper perri without braces

>> No.69176819

>>69176023
>Ackshyually
Yes and how many middle managers do you know also double as hr managers? I know it's hard to understand since you're a NEET

>> No.69176836 [DELETED] 

>>69176601
elira is uglier than this ngl

>> No.69176838

>>69165045
There's no chance EN had anyone with even the slightest legal knowledge involved with the video. Someone tried to cover their ass with the tweet, but they made it too obvious.

>> No.69176842

>>69176601
Its hard to belive, but she looks even worse on the videos

>> No.69176872

>>69175993
>I'd assume they were recently lobotomised because all it did was make their own CEO look like a stupid jackass in his own apology statement.
I don't believe in the giant all encompassing rrat to its full extent, but something I think has been made painfully obvious is that there is a serious disconnect between NijiJP and NijiEN's management staffs. I can't quite believe that they just let Elira run off and do whatever the fuck due to the management statement tweet shortly after backing them in specific terms.
So it feels like management on EN's side is totally incompetent, and also wildly coloring their stories to the JP side to paint a completely one sided picture of any events.
Does that mean Elira and a clique essentially are management? Maybe, not 100%, it feels more like Elira was looked at as a sort of teacher's pet: no obvious drama, gets along very well with almost every other talent, fluently bilingual, wants to move to Japan and really be a part of the company. That's the sort of employee that would naturally get some favoritism by just being abundantly easy to work with. And also someone you'd trust to tell the story about what's happening.
I'd like to assume at this point that the buck has stopped, and JP has realized EN is lying to them, and is now looking more closely into how that branch is run. I don't have any real hope EN's management could be redeemed into something competent, I don't think there's any generous reads that would paint them as anything less than malicious and idiotic. And the talents themselves clearly need more oversight in the form of clear rules, applications, and actual working relationships with management staff.

>> No.69176879

>>69158754
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBm4K00SMEk

>> No.69176883

>>69176137
tl;dr they gave Selen 24 hours to record a voice pack but took more than 37 hours to watch a music video for her

>> No.69176914

>>69176447
All those tweets read basically identical. It is NijiENs version of project mockingbird. It obfuscates those who are part of the clique and those who are innocent.
You have to ask yourself if those 5 people, who have otherwise no connection to any other livers, would have had enough to gain from being part of the clique as of right now?
Reminder: Nobody in EN knew about Krisis debuting, they even made fun of this fact. The wave was orchestrated by JP to be the EN sisterwave to Mechatu-A.

>> No.69177007

>>69176819
the fuck are you trying to disprove here?
Given how small the number of Anycolor employees are I don't doubt some of them hold 2-3 responsibilities at once.
But HR is part of management idiot, in every industry not just vtuber.

>> No.69177119

>>69176819
NEET tends to be something unemployed college students call others to feel superior.

>> No.69177135

>>69176914
>New hires already showing deference to the clique in hopes of becoming it's goon
At this point I couldn't care less.
The only good people in NijiEN are Kyo, Scarle, and Meloco.

>> No.69177143

>>69169846
yes
grate
nyanderful
newfag

>> No.69177223

>>69177135
I should've put
>good
in quotation

>> No.69177326

>>69177223
I was about to ask what you meant by Kyo being good.

>> No.69177611

>>69177007
>Durrr it has management in duh name so it's the same thing
There are no middle managers/hr managers, even a dumbass like yourself can see the obvious conflict of interest. Elira was likey a middle manager/team leader. To give her hr duties is a pretty big stretch. I might be giving niji too much credit but itbwoul be completely unprecedented

>> No.69177696

>>69177611
I mean it's possible, considering she had access to legal documents sent to "nijiEN lawyers (her)"

>> No.69177795

>>69177696
Yeah I don't really know. I'm not totally discrediting it

>> No.69177802

>>69177611
>To give her hr duties is a pretty big stretch
>When she already cemented her position in hiring and pr

>> No.69178367

>>69177802
she didn't need to have official HR duties, communication reaching outside of the JP branch having to vetted by her due to bottlenecking is the likely scenario

>> No.69178499

>>69158754
If you think tazumi is a good person, you are in for a real bad time.

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>>69178367
meant to reply to >>69177611
and see picrel
regardless of if the insider is real, this is a perfect explanation

>> No.69179091

>>69178576
extrapolating from this
>the role of mediating conflicts has been given to Elira, because JP doesn't give a shit about dealing with day-to-day liver drama
so what happens if a liver has an issue with Elira?
>the only thing they can do is go above her to reach JP management
>if you break this awful chain of command you get terminated or dragged through the mud until you graduate

>> No.69179526

>>69172731
Whats the other /VT/ there?, the one with the W?

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