/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>management keeps stopping my projects (that bring no money back)
>because I can't do my projects I am a disappointment to my fans
>because I can't make my fans happy with my projects let me kms that will for sure solve the problem and make them happy

Her story makes zero sense. But if you look at what she is doing and consider that she made most of that shit up to get money... well she is getting loads of money right now.

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>>68649136
If her story makes zero sense, maybe it's because you are intentionally misrepresenting it?

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>bait used to be believable

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>>68649136
>Bring no money back
For her you mouth breathing retard, the black company still made bank because she footed all the fucking costs

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*sigh*

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>>68649136
Enna you cunt.
GO kill yourself

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>>68649322
as she should. She should be grateful to even be apart of the biggest Vtuber group in the world, paying the bills herself is expected.

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all that money kurosanji isn't getting 98% of, what a shame

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>>68649136
*sigh*
another Aster deflection thread

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>>68649322
That is you just believing what she said at face value. But if you believe that then you have just created a contradiction. Nijien is a bad company (I actually agree it is) so they stop her projects when she pays for them and it brings them money? If I am a bad company and I am bullying my employee why would I stop her from patiying for everything and letting me get my profits? I would encourage more projects to bully her.

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>>68649136
>>68649432
FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE

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>>68649338
>someone isn't a total mark
>must be Enna

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>>68649136
NEW DOKI STREAM
tell everyone

[Anonymous No.]

ndf meltdown

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>>68649136
her whole arc is a shit show that makes zero sense, I don't believe most of it. If she really made zero money as she claimed she damn sure wouldnt be throwing tens of thousands of dollars at a stupid MV for...what? Fun? She's a bitch, she's always been a bitch, and all she's done as doki since coming back is money money merch merch grift grift constantly. Not even trying to be subtle about it.

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>>68649836
You're not fooling anyone

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>>68649716
This, how many times did she get conned to have spent $200k? After the second time she should've just stopped spending the money.

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>>68650579
Ok Millie. Calm down, just cause you're still in your 2% company and she's making bank now doesn't mean you should seethe yourself into an aneurism. Or maybe you should, world would be better off without you 2bh lmao

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>>68649136
It's pretty obviously emotional manipulation 101 and she just manufactured the maximum amount of drama to generate nombers with no real regard for her old friends and coworkers but this is a simp board that #BelievesWomen so she just gets away with it

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>>68649836
GLOCK GLOCK GLOCK GLOCK GOES TAKUMI DICK ON YOUR MOUTH

[Anonymous No.]

I used to watch her and remember her mom keeping tabs on everything. It was easy to see that both of them were extremely money focused. So there is no way both of them would let this get to a point where she got 0 balance at the end. By the time it got to the farewell MV they would cut the spending especially since they won't get return on it once she graduates. Her story really makes no sense with how money savy she usually was and how money focused she is now

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>>68650862
She said she commissioned alot of artists because she loves doing so. I am sure there is a limit how much Niji is willing to pay. It's like inviting someone to a restaurant and they decide to order everything on the menu.

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>>68650579
Please don't talk about finances when you don't even understand the difference between revenue and profit. Also, MVs bring a lot of money because they get a lot of views. How the fuck do you think Youtubers make so much money? The independent ones I mean, not the ones trapped in a black company that takes most of their income.

[Anonymous No.]

>Millie
>Enna
>Ndf meltdown
>Clear anger and sperging out
>Uncritically reciting what doki says when she says it to get more money
For such an obvious case where doki isn't lying I see no real arguments from her marks ITT.

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>>68649136
>management steals 15k from her by blocking music video
>this after previously approving the video for release
>gets suspended and harassed by co-workers
The situation seems super shitty.

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>>68651394
> Let me bully my employee selen by stopping her from making MV's that she pays for and make me money

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>>68649432
Entertainment companies are supposed to invest money themselves on the fucking entertainment content.

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>>68649136
>Niji shill seethe
YOU FUCKING LOVE TO SEE IT
>she made most of that shit up to get money.
She has the receipts. Try again.

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>>68649136
Ndf stopped sending their best.

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dramasisters are currently reversing course and trying to force this new meme because doki wasn't willing to become sayu 2 and didn't drop the heckin names. she is trying to pursue an actual career instead of just being a bottomfeeding dramaslave, and sisters are not happy about this. they see this as the easiest way to manufacture more drama.

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Anyone else notice a sudden influx of these threads trying to shift the narrative?

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>>68651119
She wasn't planning to graduate the MV was clearly meant to honor Nina, Mysta and Pomu.

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>>68651970
Doki just proved that going indie is better than being in Kurosanji so the NDF is melting the fuck down

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>>68651970
Tell your oshi to be less shameless about milking your wallet you paypig

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>>68649136
The biggest bully in Selen's life is her mom. Not gonna cross out if there are suspects in EN but I'm not gonna be surprised if the suicide was sparked by her mom meddling with her finances again.

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>>68652226
Doki isn't my oshi. My oshi is a literal low-tier 2 view.

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>>68652276
You are a groomer and a sexpest

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>>68651970
Dramafags need something to keep existing I guess

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>>68652369
Probably. But she enables me, so I'm happy.

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>>68649136
Can you point out at which point this story does not make sense?
Even the way you've laid it out, which is obviously colored with a negative bias, paints a consistent picture.

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>>68652226
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST VOLUNTARILY CHOOSE TO SUPPORT SELEN BY GIVING HER MONEY BECAUSE... YOU JUST CAN'T, OKAY?
Seethe, Enna, seethe. All that money going to Selen and you'll never see a dime of it.

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>>68649136
Damn Niji doesn't invest anything into their talents OR their shills

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>>68649136
Don't you just want to end it all with how much of a failure you have become?

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>>68652269
So mom forced her to pin the blame on niji to get more money, and forced her to lie about projects costing all she earned to get more money? Would make a lot of sense.

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>>68652496
Pathetic paypiggy

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>>68652686
Don't you?

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>>68652163
She sang "Last Cup of Coffee" right before she announced graduation as Doki.

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>>68651726
Well Anycolor had permissions. You don't buy that shit about Anycolor needing permissions from the graduated livers do you? Anycolor owns the rights to all their characters. There's no permissions issue there. The only perms needed belong to the people who worked on the video, and the people who own the song. And those people stepped forward and said they gave Anycolor perms ages ago.

You see there's this thing in Japanese workplace culture, where if you don't like an employee you make their life as miserable as possible in hopes that they will quit. The reason is because quitting is looked at VERY unfavorably over there. If you quit a job, even if the employer was in the wrong, other places are going to look at your resume with suspicion and it becomes much harder to get hired at a new workplace. "You have no work ethic". So making them quit is one last "fuck you" to the person you don't like. They wanted her to quit. She decided to quit... And that could have been the end of it.

But she attempted suicide from the constant stress and lawyered up. Make no mistake: Anycolor knew she tried to kill herself. That isn't fake. A hospital is not going to forge records to stick it to some random Japanese company. Graduation was no longer on the table at that point. Anycolor has to make it look like she was in the wrong because they are preparing for a potential legal battle.

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>>68651757
Cuties.

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>>68649136
> Misrepresent a story
> Hey, my misrepresented story makes no sense!
> That means she made it up because she is making money now!
Cease with the stupid bait.
>>68649716
> Why do companies do things that lose them money.
Because people make mistakes, fear for their image and have personal politics. You'll figure it out once you move out of your mom's house and start working, retard.

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>one guy part-timing it is better than Niji's entire staff
I can believe that.

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>>68654110
>people make mistakes
Not when you try to bully someone and she pays money to get you money. In reality the only reason they prevented her from making projects is she is lying about who paid how much and how much they got in return. You can't have bullying no profits and she paid out of her pocket be consistent you dumb selen mark.

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>>68649716
> Nijisanji is a bad company
> But I don't believe they would make a mistake in terms of money
This is the real contradiction you dumb faggot.

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>>68649322
#believeallwomen

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>>68651726
Yes. Nijisanji is that incompetent. Welcome to the real world autist.

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>>68653286
>making them quit is one last "fuck you" to the person you don't like
Awesome. I would tell her to make more projects so she can pay for them all, get me more money and then she would be forced to quit because she literally has no money to go on.

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>>68651726
You think the retards at EN management were seeing an actual cut of the profits? They were all salary niggers. They don't really care as long as enough money is being made that it doesn't earn them scrutiny from Tokyo.

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>>68654589
Revenue != Profits. Revenue - Expenses = Profits. If Expenses > Revenue then Profits < 0

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>>68654939
>They don't care about profit
>But they also exploit their talent for all their money
Selen marks plz. At least some internal consistency to your claims. You don't have to be like Selen where you make everything up for pity and money.

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>>68655103
Good job anon. Have a golden autist star sticker. You earned it.

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>>68655201
>Anon discovers that whilst executives who make all the really important financial decisions are money hungry jews, most people who work for a company just show up for a paycheque and want to do the least work possible

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>>68649136
PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJJJJJJJJEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

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>>68654589
>>68654589
> You can't have bullying no profits and she paid out of her pocket be consistent you dumb selen mark
Learn to form a coherent thought, you barely literate monkey. Having upsides and throwing that upside away is perfectly consistent with incompetence.

Your attempt at a counter argument is claiming that ninisanji can't be that dumb. Then building on that by claiming that a company being dumb is somehow contradictory or inconsistent. It's not. You're just dumb too.

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>>68655201
Selen won and there's absolutely nothing you can do but seethe about it.

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>>68649136
i hate shitskins like you so fucking much its unreal

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>>68649136
You sound like a mad nijisis that is mad because Dokibird single handedly killed NijiEN.

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>>68649136
Enna Alouette of Nijisanji. You disgust me. Unsympathic narcissist. The only reason you share an existence on this earth is because your parents made a mistake, and it's a shame you inherited that same behavioural mistake. I don't want to see your sorry excuse of trying to be human on my YouTube recommendations ever again. Get out. The only time I want to hear your voice is when you're asphyxiating. Because you don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. You're going to tell me to touch grass; I'm touching grass more than you ever will with you being strung up so high. The audacity. I cannot believe your impotence. If there was bug spray for me to hand out to every individual on this planet, I would buy out the entire bug spray economy just so I'd know that my and others' houses were bug free. And don't think that others won't turn on you, either. Your mind is so rotted you think your way of life is acceptable. You expect others to be with you through thick and thin, at the expense of their own well-being? What a terrible joke. Unbelievable. Awaiting my copyright strike.

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>>68655840
I am having fun for free. Selen is sucking out money out of your wallets. You foot the bill for my entertainment you loser and she is lying to you. I dunno who won but you are definitely the losers in this situation.

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>>68656187
>>68655671
>>68656034
Literally seething and malding

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>>68649136
>$200k
She'll be broke by next year and I will point and laugh at her and everyone who simped for her

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>>68651970
NDF is having a rough time right now, stretched pretty thin with so many fires to put out

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>>68656259
> I am having fun for free
You are fellating nijisanji for free, and coping by saying giving blowjobs is fun for you. Your logic for why she is lying is so dumb, that I have no doubt that you are, with no exaggeration, handicapped.

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>>68649136
Seethe, faggot. Bought her bundle and will buy her merch in the future. Witnessing her experiencing competent management for the first time in her career was disheartening.

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>>68654718
Over corpos yes.

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>>68657760
>Owning someone by becoming a paypig to a liar pudgy chink girl and being proud of it
Please keep winning. Don't stop what you are doing.

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>>68658214
Try saying that without the tears Millie

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>>68652226
If you want to talk about shameless see Nijisanji still profiting off of Selen's old memberships

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>>68656555
I don't care as long as that money is going to artists, animators, and fun events. Good will and connections are priceless.

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>>68651970
Literally all day, i mean it's entertaining reading their bs

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>>68649136
NIJISEETHE

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>>68649136
Go back to your 2% company, Enna! She’s making bank while you get barely anything.

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Ennigger still malding when she "quits" and goes indie no one will follow her I see.

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>>68649136
How much I am gonna bet that she will get her own 3D model before you, Enna.

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>>68649264
Fpbp

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I actually couldn't care less for either Niggersanji nor that chink whale Doki but you fags told me Selen was a retarded mentally unstable girl that could barely keep herself and her life together. How the hell did she got a whole staff team to work for her and successfully opened a merch shop so fast, I thought art commissions usually took weeks or months? Wasn't she broke too?.

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>>68663144
The art already existed from before she joined Niji.

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>>68650579
I own my own business, thanks, I know the difference. She has said herself she made ZERO PROFIT. If you're not profitable you're not going to waste your last nickel on some nonsense that doesn't matter because you "love your fans so much" or whatever platitudes she spouts. She's full of shit, and is a menhera schizo, that's plain for anyone to see. The fact that she tries to off herself like an emo high schooler because oh nyo, people are mean to me, tells you all you need to know about her mental capacity.

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>>68664004
ndf looking desperate kek

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>>68664045
not at all, I hate nijisanji, I can't wait to tapdance on their grave when all of EN goes under. But I hate pity-baiting thin-skinned cunts like Selen even more

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>>68664004
Sorry you can't conceive of doing something because you actually love doing it anon

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I can't wait for the inevitable flood of "bullied" sewersliders that are going to try to cash in on this racket now that they see how great it worked for $elen

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>>68664281
of course I can, but not when it's literally going to put me out on the street begging for money when it gains me nothing in return. she was on her doki account begging for scraps because of that MV

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>>68663144
amazing how fast she found seemingly the best manager on earth who handles all her shit flawlessly, right out of thin air too. With no money. Is she paying this dude with hopes and dreams, or her fat ass?

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>>68649716
Because they're obviously complete fucking incompetent who ran off their top talent over and over and over? You fit in great with their management culture since you can't even master basic pattern recognition.

>>68650862
That was part of the reason Niji EN's management was so angry with her - she didn't get the hint when they kept killing her projects (after making sure she wasted her money of course). She just stubbornly kept trying.

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>>68664377
And? Simply because you won't do it, doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

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>>68664513
if someone is that stupid they deserve what they get. Why feel sorry for someone that knowingly brings their own ruin?

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>>68649432
>>68649136

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>>68664601
Because despite being retarded, people love people with big hearts and passion.

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>>68664329
Iron Mouse would do this…

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>>68664377
Doki was asking for work on Twitter because she'd just been fired from her job. Generally, when people lose their jobs, immediately seek to secure new employment and/or sources of funds.

Unless they're going to be sitting in their mom's basement collecting unemployment like you, anyway.

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>>68650862
>She said she commissioned alot of artists because she loves doing so. I am sure there is a limit how much Niji is willing to pay. It's like inviting someone to a restaurant and they decide to order everything on the menu.

Retardsanji is too stingy in paying artists.

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>>68664706
I guess that's true enough. Everyone loves a good underdog story. This whole thing has just been mind bogglingly stupid, from both Selen and Niji both.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy fuck, her old model was a massive de-buff.

She is actually watchable now.

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>>68664880
Selen is a singular girl in her 20s who plays an anime character for a living. Retardation is expected.

Niji is the single biggest vtuber organisation in the world. People can and should have higher expectations of their conduct.

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>>68664852
Nijisanji just straight up stiffs them when obligated to do so (unless you believe all these artists who came forward on Twitter are lying collectively). One of the things that convinced me of Doki's character was when she stepped up to help these small artists and covered Nijisanji's expenses out of her own pocket.

Which is why no one buys these NDF arguments of "She's just an evil menhera!"

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>>68664931
I agree with that. Doki fits her shitty voice way better and actually makes it work as a brat. That hideous purple dragon didn't do her voice any favors

[Anonymous No.]

NDF trying their damnedest as usual

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>>68649264
>>68649757

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>>68651726
>let me bully my world-renowned game director into leaving with his own studio while we try and fail to cash in on the series he was in charge of
>let me fire the cheap 3D director who revived our failed gacha franchise with a legendarily beloved anime series because the guy who created the original failure got jealous

Have you met Japanese companies before?

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>People actually watch stream to counter NDF's lies
What the fuck, this is not the catalog I know

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>>68664493
This retard never worked in his life

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>>68649136
Yeah, I don't buy the suicide attempt shit. She probably popped few more pills than she should've and went to the hospital immediately. Truly depressed, suicidal people don't go spouting it to the world. They either do it, or hide it. She just wants attention.

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There's no defending Kurosanji.
The argument that Selen spend too much money on "personal" projects falls apart when you consider the testimonies of countless artists and workers that have said Nijisanji THEMSELVES didn't pay them in time so Selen had to pay them, and many of them also said the NDA informations was even wrong so most of them didn't even sign one, lmao.
If anything the only crime Selen is guilty about is giving a shit and not wanting workers to get fucked.
Even after Selen literally paying the bills of nijisanji, they still fucked her every time they could.
>>68665839
She wasn't suppose to go public about her attempt though. Nijisanji literally forced her to do it when they self-reported.

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>>68652686
Doki did

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>>68665839
She didn't go spouting it to the world. Niji said she was hospitalised (via skinwalking her on her own account) and she clarified why.

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>>68665839
no shit retard, that's what women do. it doesn't change much of anything.

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>>68649136
>Bring no money back
Not like the scripted valentines day messages written by old sweaty jap business men and the shitty paper fan merch? NDF hard at work tonight, is it true you do it for free?

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>>68665839
>Truly depressed, suicidal people don't go spouting it to the world.
"Truly" as in "My subjective view" you mean?
People can attempt it but not go all the way because of obvious fucking reasons. is not black and white, people who do it can have various degree of doubt and fail to do so for that sole reason.

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>>68665468
What's that second one in reference to? I don't keep up with gacha games.

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>>68649264
Fpbp

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>>68666473
kemono friends

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>>68650579
She said it herself. She made zero profit -because- the company kept delaying and refusing to pay up commissions for projects they were supposed to ontop of giving fucked up NDAs and generally bad paperwork, so to actually get the shit done on time, she paid out of pocket to get the work done.
And instead of reimbursing her (a normal company would ask how much, you pay them and get reimbursed as a work cost. not always the full amount but something otherwise they would have rejected the project before commissioning started) they just shrugged it off as none of their concern.

If Any color had actually done their job and paid partially for the project she would have made profit.
If she spent the same as an indie, got the same amount of views and superchats, she would made a profit.
The entire reason she made no profit was because Nijisanji was taking a huge cut of the earnings and giving nothing in terms of the costs.

tl;dr her projects made profit, she just only got a big enough cut to break even. If she was indie she'd have made a bank.

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>>68666832
they also received all the money from sponsors if they were any
and if there wasn't, it was because nijisanji didn't allow it, otherwise Selen would ask for them.

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>>68666832
nta but she also was bad at managing money
Like, she said that herself too. she just flat out wasn't looking at her bank account for a long while. she said it as selen AND during her return stream.
HOWEVER. that's hardly crimnal and doesn't absolve Niji of their bullshit behavior. They obviously caused her to eat financial losses by canceling projects after money had been spent (and she's not the only one they've done that to). My point is just that "no profit" is attention-grabbing, it makes a good headline, but it's not the actual thing to focus on,

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>>68666832
You're a fool if you ever expected a black company like Anycolor to pay for any liver's personal projects. And they would never say they would pay in the first place because that would set themselves up for legal trouble.

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>>68666792
Damn, I've never even heard of it, I'm more out of touch than I thought.

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>>68666473
Kemono Friends
QRD
>Gacha Game Kemono Friends comes out as part of some major entertainment project on anime girls, gacha game, manga, anime and merch all set up
>Gacha game comes out first
>Too boring to really boom so gets shut down after a year or so
>Manga comes out
>Mediocre
>Company throws shit budget at small time anime company gives them complete freedom because it's a stillborn franchise.
>Too cheap to animate so they go 3D
>Director not even given a plot so he makes it a fan-fiction of his original content and makes it a post-apoc series set in the world of the manga and game.
>Company continues to give no fucks cause they've already given up
>He throws out episode 1
>Anime Fans: What is this shit?
>Throws out episode 2
>Fans start to grow
>By episode 4 it's blown up harder than MLP did in the west for it's writing and characters and Cute Animal Girls doing Cute Things
>By episode 12th it's got millions of fans, multiple zoo sponsor ships and everyone wants the game back, merch flying off the shelves it's becoming the next pokemon
>Replacing Touhou and Kantai as the most drawn fanart.
>S2 greenlit
>New Gacha coming out to replace the old one
>Fans screaming for MOAR MOAR MOAR!!
>Director makes a Free short episode with leftover assets for the fans
>Sponsors start wanting fan episodes made to push products.
>Zoos getting hundreds of Otaku showing up to look at animals
>A Penguin falls in love with the cutout of a Penguin girl becomes first scientific proof that Animals can have Anime Waifus
>Company at the same time realizes that they foolishly gave complete control to the director because they thought they had given him a dead fish and now they want it back
>Fire him for making an "Unauthorized episode"
>Fans rage
>company doubles down
>Fans demand they bring the director back
>Company forces the VAs to publicly apologize to the Company for bringing shame for working with the director
>Company burns bridges anyway cause Japanese Pride
>Company passes S2 off to another director
>Changes everything about the setting
>Shits all over S1
>Shits all over the main character of season 1
>Turns it from a Yuribait series into a harem by making the new MC male
>Kills off"the catgirl from S1 by making her lose her memories completely and come back as a new person
>Does a horrible job with the plot and pacing ends up the lowest rated anime around
>Franchise is now effectively barely limping by on what's left of S1's goodwill

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>>68649136
Fuck off Nijinigger. She's literally posted proof of her being in the hospital and her lawyers sent proof to Nijisanji.

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>>68653286
> So making them quit is one last "fuck you" to the person you don't like
Also firing someone is looked at unfavorably on the company. They have to have to make a good case for terminating someone, which is why they character-assassinated Zaion before and during the termination period and even had the livers off-hand shit talk about her. They tried to do the same with selen, push that "We had to fire her" because "She was such a horrible employee". A termination brings attention to the company in Japan, rather than being seen as a fault with the employee. "Is there a problem with your management/hiring?" kind of logic, while quitting is just seen as the employee being weak and backing out

It's funny because the opposite to the west where if you quit people question if it's something wrong with the company and if you get terminated that it's a problem with the employee.

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>>68667113
See
>>68667190

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>>68650862
She did it because she loved doing the projects and hosting cool events for her fanbase.The point is that Niji don't fucking support even their top EN talents.

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>>68667434
If she loved doing it, why does she complain so much about how much it cost her?

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>>68667190
>Too cheap to animate so they go 3D
the wheels of the jeep in the opening weren't even animated until halfway through the series. That's how cheap the animation was.

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>>68667113
it was literally THE biggest shit in japan in 2017 and probably the most wasted potential in history.

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>>68667532
Her MOM complained to her about making no profit (this means she had no savings, not that she lost money). So, she's cutting back on expenses for her mom's sake. You'd understand if you had a mother.

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>>68651970
The defence force has got to the point that they just have to blatantly make up random shit and misrepresent things to try to scrape by. Doki has proved that being indie is better than staying with the black company so they're in panic mode.

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>>68667532
It was her mom that "scolded" her for not taking care of her financials. She was not the one complaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>anon discovers suicidal people don't usually think logically

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>>68667190
#Fuckadokawa
fuck im still mad, at the very least the fanworks are still somewhat moving

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>>68667190
The only reason I return to this franchise is for shoebill paizuri, I do not interact with ANYTHING else.

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>>68651970
Please, be a little more sympathetic to the NDF. They've been working around the clock for days. And Niji is probably dragging their feet on paying out their $0.02 per post.

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>>68667190
never watched kemono friends, but i always assumed it was an anime original
never heard of a gacha being saved by its anime adaption before, they typically end up being forgettable failures that can't even make the setting or characters seem appealing to properly advertise the gacha

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>>68651970
I wonder why, one day some retard on /NijiEN/ posted that nyfco page because Luxiem drama I went there to see if the "nijisister" memes were real.
I read some shit there but nothing caught my attention, it was almost the same as this shithole catalog.
But after Doki's debut I got curious and I decided to take a look and holy shit, they hate treat her like a demon while defending Anycolor like their lives depends on it and a lot of their bs is slowly appearing on /HAHA/ and bait threads, I hope every NDF ropes him/her-self.

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>>68649136
Enna Alouette of Nijisanji. You disgust me. Unsympathic narcissist. The only reason you share an existence on this earth is because your parents made a mistake, and it's a shame you inherited that same behavioural mistake. I don't want to see your sorry excuse of trying to be human on my YouTube recommendations ever again. Get out. The only time I want to hear your voice is when you're asphyxiating. Because you don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. You're going to tell me to touch grass; I'm touching grass more than you ever will with you being strung up so high. The audacity. I cannot believe your impotence. If there was bug spray for me to hand out to every individual on this planet, I would buy out the entire bug spray economy just so I'd know that my and others' houses were bug free. And don't think that others won't turn on you, either. Your mind is so rotted you think your way of life is acceptable. You expect others to be with you through thick and thin, at the expense of their own well-being? What a terrible joke. Unbelievable. Awaiting my copyright strike

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>>68663144
the designs and shit already existed retards, and on preorder it will be months before it even comes out anyway

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>>68649136
Enna show your pussy

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>>68649264
this.

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>>68649136
It’s all embellishments and hyperbole, but Niji is still shit

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>>68652173
Riding a wave of outrage to prop your indie career is better than Niji, yes

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>>68649432
Riku stop posting on 4chan. Your company is dying.

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>>68664004
Have you tried maybe actually listening to the redebut stream where she explains how it happened instead of being a retarded schizo?

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>>68649136
She actually gaslighted casuals into thinking corpos normally fund projects. Meanwhile, Marine had to fund all her mvs out of pocket.

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>>68665839
bro, the company admitted it for her
she didn't talk about it until like 40 fucking days later lmao
>>68674562
half this board doesn't realize corpo tubers pay for most their own shit (and how bad with their money they are) like how lap just dropped over 20k on that mario kart tournament

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>>68649136
Just BPD things

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>>68665839
Well of course it was for attention. If you actually want to die, you choose a surefire way to do it. These "attempts" happen because they actually don't want to die but want attention.

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>>68666832

>she just only got a big enough cut to break even
>I spent 200k on nijisanji

I'm also broke as shit when I liquidated my trades and then used that money to buy a handjob parlor. I swear to god this fucking place hosts just the exact morons that these grifters are aiming for.

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>>68649264
FPBP

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>>68674772
It's been a little been startling to see people focus on Selen's suicide attempt and try to spin it as something malicious. It can't be coming from real nijisisters, because they're generally labeled as liberal and are all about promoting suicide prevention. Here's another (you), if that's allt your'e after.

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>>68651970
Dramafags are getting bored because she didn’t go full scorched earth and show logs of everyone who ever wronged her so they’re turning on her and making up shit. This is why having tourists get involved in drama is always a bad thing

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>>68675745
Calm down sister. Her suicide attempt being for attention and Niji being a shit company aren't mutually exclusive.

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>>68664004
>If you're not profitable you're not going to waste your last nickel on some nonsense that doesn't matter because you "love your fans so much" or whatever platitudes she spouts
Why people here can't understand this?

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>>68664329
2024 vtubing is gonna be a wave of: I was bullied and I tried to kill myself.

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>>68674562
>>68674647
So you are saying that they see Selen paying for this paying for that, they notice she is paying more than she is getting out of it and they tell her to stop doing this. And this is bullying?

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>>68649136
Didn't give enough of a shit to follow the drama, but
>trying to make logical sense out of an emotional response
Severe autism spotted.

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>>68649136
What was her CCV like?

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>>68677735
vtubing is dead

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>>68649136
Girl is supposed to slave in chats and Minecraft all day. Making interesting and unique content costs money - But if we put any money into the content it means less money for the shareholders to have.
Slaves should shut the fuck up and make as many videos as possible and as cheap as possible. We need to finance a second yacht at some point after all.

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>>68665839
>>68674772
>>68674647
I generally hate BPD-women, and suicide by pills is just a cry for attention. If you want to drift off to sleep soundly just source heroin or inert gas. That said, Niji is a shit company and they deserve the flak. So do the Niji fans.

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>>68677735
>>68679498
It is not dead, but this egirl stuff has grown stale. The next generation of vtubing will completely eclipse this current generation. Then nobody will associate the current format with vtubing again. Because back then (right now) it was never really vtubing to begin with, it was just amateur hour with grifters.

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>>68649264
FPBP also NDF thread

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>>68649136
Imagine defending Nijisanji for free.

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>>68649264
fpbp
put me in the screenshot
BVTM!
>fpbp gang!

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>>68650978
It was Niji itself who first brought out the bullying allegations and suicide to the public, retard. All she did was confirm it, so it's not even "believing her", it's both believing her and Nijisanji

NDF isn't sending their smartest soldiers, perhaps because they made the wise decision to abandon ship