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>> No.68561847

>>68561712
There may not be a best time to buy cover stock than right now

>> No.68561920

BUY BUY BUY

>> No.68562004

Yagoo’s dream is once again bedridden and plugged on life support…

>> No.68562024

Uh oh

>> No.68562133

>>68561847
Which broker sells it?

>> No.68562215
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68562215

>>68561712
oh no jews are losing money? oh no im so sad

>> No.68562313

Great moment to pick up Cover for relatively cheap.

>> No.68562419

>>68562313
Refer a broker

>> No.68562435

>>68561712
I will purchase majority of cover and immediately cut off Stars.

>> No.68562509
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68562509

>>68562133
All of them, it has an ADF now.
https://www.barrons.com/market-data/stocks/covcf/financials
Time to get in to the next google/amazon while you can.

>> No.68562534

>>68561712
GS put a buy alert on Anycolor (naming Selen Tatsuki in it, luls), but... I think they underestimate just how badly NijiEN fucked up.

Was a little worried about this... With all the normies hearing all about this, even Asmangold doing a bit on it, people are going to start to assume that all Vtubers are being exploited to the point of near suicide.

And I don't think the west can put up with the idol culture of Asia, where young women aren't allowed to have lives outside of their jobs, basically always having to be pure virgin dolls that are more possessions than they are people. In Japan when female worker is driven to suicide, it's on them for being menhera, but in the west, it's on the company. Japanese companies may find it difficult to cross that cultural divide.

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68562618

>>68561847
>'E sold?
>.....pump it

>> No.68562855

A-CHAN DESERVES IT FOR NOT SAVING DOKIBIRB REEEEEEE!!!!

>> No.68563262

>>68562534
it makes sense even if cover is more stable i would yeet the fuck out, i would confidently say the majority of the members in both companies are unhinged an not well adjusted, why the fuck would i believe in what they do.

>> No.68563369

Well? Post your position in cover, anons.

>> No.68563463

>>68562534
Cover's stock dropping today has nothing to do with the Niji drama, it has to do with their earnings report.
Basically Cover's stock is down because they fell short of what "analysts" predicted for their earnings growth. They only made 40% more than in the same period last year, which is less than the market expected or something but still good for the long-term outlook.
Overall though 40% growth is really good and shows stable and increasing growth, next quarter is a big opportunity with Holofes.
Conclusion: stock is on a discount, buy the dip

>> No.68563715

lots of good cope itt
days of trying to make a big deal over small fluctuations in stock price and then it turns out their tribe has lost more in the same time period

>> No.68564001

>>68561712
Holokeks got too cocky and forgot that cover is also a restrictive corpo that will likely face the same problem that niji has right now in the future. Corporations owning literally everything a talent does is a ticking time bomb waiting to burst. In the west at least. Japan loves corporate domination so it's not a problem there.

>> No.68564307

>>68563369
0 because i'm not retarded
index funds all the way

>> No.68564506

>>68564001
>Holokeks got too cocky and forgot that cover is also a restrictive corpo that will likely face the same problem that niji has right now in the future
2 more weeks, right sister?

>> No.68564548

>>68564001
>cover is also a restrictive corpo that will likely face the same problem that niji has right now in the future.
Except that's wrong because Cover doesn't let insane cliques form, doesn't let talent have power over other talent, and doesn't bully their own employees into suicide attempts because Yagoo understands that's a bad idea.

>> No.68564739

>>68564001
nijifag hololive's stock has an upwards trend, I can't say the same for nijisanji.

>> No.68564776

>>68564307
>not putting in just a few thousand for when it moons and becomes the next google/amazon of tech entertainment of 2040
NGMI

>> No.68564810

This is because some investorbros linked Cover and Anycolor in their models. So they sell Cover when Anycolor goes down.
This is a huge buy for Cover

>> No.68564924

>>68562534
Westerners are the easiest rubes in the world and the quickest to forgive. Blizzard had horrible scandals and it didn't impact their future games whatsoever

Through some shiny boo boo keys at westerners and they'll come crawling back.

>> No.68564994
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68564994

>>68562509
this but unironically

>> No.68565030

>>68564307
Index, IRA for serious money
Individual stock for when you want to gamble but know the odds are in your favor

>> No.68565033

>>68562534
>I don't think the west can put up with the idol culture of Asia
The people who dislike idol culture aren't their target audience anyway.
>where young women aren't allowed to have lives outside of their jobs, basically always having to be pure virgin dolls that are more possessions than they are people
Anon, please. You could probably count the number of "pure maidens" in Hololive on one hand. It's all kayfabe.

>> No.68565131

>>68563463
Was looking for this explanation. I don't understand why anyone would expect high growth though, it's post covid + high interest rate environment. The only thing they have going for them is the cheap JPY.

>> No.68565148

is this an "alright, hop in" moment?

>> No.68565188

>>68565033
Yes, they all had sex, with me

>> No.68565415

>>68564994
Are they trading in USD or do they have CAD

>> No.68565614

>>68564506
>>68564548
Holocultist propaganda doesn't work in the real world.

>> No.68565755

>>68565614
Yagoo doesn't go out in public with talent in order to preserve their identities.
Riku doesn't go out in public with talent because they are fucking peasants.
They are not the same.

>> No.68565802

>>68565033
The market for western idol culture is only so big, anon. At some point it’ll become a liability, and killing those parts of the fanbase will allow them to grow into a bigger mainstream audience

>> No.68565931

>>68565802
Which is why vtubers are branching out from just being virtual idols.

>> No.68565939

>>68565755
Hololive and nijisanji sell the same exact products and have the same exact risks. The main risk has now revealed itself. "Noooo but I like hololive" doesn't effect how the business operates and how investors perceive it.

>> No.68565977

>>68565415
apparently you can buy stock on Schwab with an international account, so it shouldn't be a problem

>> No.68566067

>>68565977
t. enna

>> No.68566130

One didn't meet external analyst targets and is being readjusted. The other is getting BTFOd by a purple dragon

>> No.68566365

>>68566130
don't buy stocks from the company you like...
you're supposed to short not buy. For example, if you watch holo girs and have holo stocks you could lose your money AND your oshi if hololive dies

>> No.68566493

>>68565939
I think the difference is one company learns from its mistakes while the other just continuously doubles down.

But yes, they are dealing with the same dangers, and if one goes it's bad optics for the other.

>> No.68566561

>>68566365
Can you sell covered calls on foreign stock?

>> No.68566580

>>68565977
>>68566561
Cover has an ADR you don't need an international account anymore.

>> No.68566613

>>68566493
> one company learns from its mistakes while the other just continuously doubles down.
One company nearly killed its biggest EN star and put all its EN's performers lives in danger.

>> No.68566641

SLURPPPP SLURRPPP THE DIP

>> No.68566815

>>68565131
You sell because you think the stock price will dip as a result of the earnings (which is caused by everyone else having the same idea as you), then you rebuy after it dips because it's almost guaranteed to go back up to normal as everyone rebuys their stock for the same reason.

>> No.68566825

>>68565931
Yeah true, it would be smarter to have different holos serve different roles instead of forcing a total shift or trying to do both, I figure that’s what dev_is was supposed to be but they sucked at explaining it so that didn’t work. The problem is they wanna build the brand off of brand recognition from their existing popular ips, it’s a lot easier to just shift course with those than to make something entirely new to break into new but potentially interested markets.

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>>68565939
>Hololive and nijisanji sell the same exact products and have the same exact risks
And that's why 21% of the employees in Cover are dedicated exclusively to managing the talent, meanwhile NijiEN has 5 pajeets and Harry's 2 week nepohire

>> No.68566991

>>68566825
dev_is is actually successful, if you compare everything to 2020 you'll be disappointed.

>> No.68566997

>>68566580
Are you sure? I'm searching both "CoverCorp" and "5253" on RH (just happen to have some money leftover from ages ago) and nothing is showing up.

>> No.68567046

>>68566997
>>68562509

>> No.68567190

>>68566952
That's nice but it doesn't change anything. You tribal retards need to realize "I like this company because they are nice to the employees" does not translate to making the investors money. It doesn't matter. Tons of huge companies basically have slave labor.

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68567229

>>68567046
Is there a setting?

>> No.68567265

>>68561712
SELL SELL SELL

>> No.68567520

>>68567229
Maybe its not on RH for whatever reason. Its on fidelity at least.
https://digital.fidelity.com/prgw/digital/research/quote/dashboard/summary?symbol=COVCF

>> No.68567638

>>68567190
It's not about liking a company because they are nice to the employees, retard. All of nijiENs problems in the last year have been because they are unable to tardwrangle their talent because they refuse to hire competent managers.

>> No.68567828

>>68566997
>>68567229
Robinhood only has limited access to OTC markets for certain stocks.
https://learn.robinhood.com/articles/6v9qlwLEozNepDPD2ze1i/what-is-over-the-counter-otc/
And so do most exchanges not Robinhood. Without something like an American Depositary Receipt (ADR) issued by the bank which denominates a stock overseas in USD for people invests in which gets a foreign stock more readily traded like Nintendo or TSMC, you need Tokyo Stock Exchange access to buy Cover or Anycolor stock.

>> No.68567908

Fucking hell retarded bank can't deposit into my trading account until next Wednesday. How the fuck is that kind of delay even a thing with all the technology shit we have.

>> No.68567931

>>68567828
>>68567520
I'll open a fidelity account then, thanks anons.

>> No.68568013

>>68561712
Wait what happened to Cover for it get hit?

>> No.68568307

Cover stocks always drop the first day when they release their financials before increasing again. It's been the same pattern for a while already. Yes buy the dip.

>> No.68568420

>>68568013
>buy anykara and cover stock
>anykara plummets
>"OH SHIT, VTUBING IS CRUMBLING SELL SELL SELL SELL"

>> No.68568573

>>68568013
I think its just nijifags being nijifags, hololive just released their financials and it usually dips when that happens.

>> No.68568623

500 @ 2563 thanks for the heads up anons. Might have been better to wait out the niji drama but timing the market etc

>> No.68568747

>>68567638
There is still risk even if you attempt to mitigate the risk with better management.

>> No.68568987

>>68565131
Please understand, most stock traders and analysts are complete braided morons that don't actually look deeply into data.

>> No.68569093
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>>68564001
I think the only reason that no one in the west has cared so far is that you basically had to be /here/ to know how everything really works. People who know nothing about vtubers had no easy way of knowing about corporations owning their IPs, the NDAs forcing them to never talk about their past life after graduation, the collab bans preventing them from ever collabing again, vtubers paying out of pocket to create content the company will end up owning and making money off of, etc. Doki forcefully exposed Nijisanji and told people she's still the same person even though she's no longer Selen, which in turn was a big enough drama that even westerners outside of the vtuber bubble started to take notice, and most of them are disgusted by vtubers now that they know how JP corpos operate.

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68569149

Now post the entire graph, nijinig

>> No.68570427

>>68568623
Any particular reason why there's a price discrepancy between the ADRs and OTC? Or does 1 ADR not necessarily = 1 share of stock?

>> No.68570607

>>68569149
Yep hororivu's stock looks a lot healthier than nijisanji's not to mention the recent oof lol

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68570740

>>68561712
>he didn't buy the Anycolor dip
>he bought the Cover corp bull trap
>he thought it was "owari da"
>he sold his anycolor shares in a dip

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68570975

>>68568747
For the love of god
IT'S MONEY, EVERYTHING HAS RISK

>> No.68571052

>>68567908
This is why I moved to chase investment, waiting 1-3 days to chase to transfer to etrade is so retarded.

>> No.68571249

>>68569149
What happened to niji in 2023? It went from 6000 to 3000.

>> No.68571467

>>68570975
Some things have more risk than other things
>>68571249
A split

>> No.68572040

$18.50 bid for 500 shares Yolo?

>> No.68572375

>>68567190
It's a little different when you make your money by putting your slaves on display under a spotlight.

>> No.68572588

Are jap investors retarded or something? From my understanding, your stock price is supposed to go up when you beat your earnings projections, not take a nosedive

>> No.68572651

>>68561712
BUY COVER STOCK NOW BABY

>> No.68572786

>>68567520
Does fidelity do options?

>> No.68573017

>>68564924
Are they willing to even jingle those keys though? I think if Anycolor management was capable of swallowing their pride to save their public image, they would have done it about 3 scandals ago

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not looking good, even anycolor with huge scandal now only fall 2% today
what happend?

>> No.68573268

>>68564001
time to terminate all homo then??
Most drama shit starting from Luxiem

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68573329

>>68571249
Their stock was a literal pump and dump, all the original investors doomped eet the exact same day after their 6-month hold agreement expired

>>68571467
Wrong, that big drop was on December 2022, exactly 6 months after they went public (June 8th), the stock split didn't happen until July 2023

>> No.68573386

>>68566580
I'm not that familiar with buying stocks. Schwab won't let me buy from their website. I get a message telling me to call a representative. Do I really have to do that?

>> No.68573492

>>68565131
because the analysts were morons. This is the time to buy, q4 is gonna blow expectations.

>> No.68573949

>>68573268
English?

>> No.68574028

>>68561712
fucking hell, buy this dip they are going to spike with fes

>> No.68574764

>>68574028
don't help the retards on here, like they know about finance. they only see
>cover go down, le bad
without understanding the difference in circumstances between the two company.

>> No.68575747

There's nothing here. If you look at the wider data Cover stock has been on a steady decline for the last couple weeks after a sudden increase in mid January, this is just a continuing trend and not related to anything recent. The Anycolor drop however was dramatic, unexpected and entirely due to their self created shitshow.

>> No.68576409

>>68575747
Don't forget Anycolor had just spent $18M on a stock buyback last month only for the stock to drop almost to pre-buyback levels overnight, kek

>> No.68576841

i consider cover stock to be high risk; we all known its talent pools is ageing and retirements will eventually come meanwhile the latest generation (regloss) is not doing so well. Imagine you put a lot of money in it then one of the powerhouses like marine or pekora announce retirement (pekora once almost quit after being denied 3d). The risk is real.

>> No.68577742

>>68576841
>something bad happens in the past when the company was not relevant and people were calling pekora a runt for her low numbers
>ANY TIME NOW!!!!!!
Enna you're not being subtle at all.

>> No.68577968

People posting day-to-day stock fluctuations are dumb af. Wait a week or two for a better picture.

>> No.68578107

>>68577742
???
pekora was already the #1 streamer in hololive when it happened.

>> No.68578207
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Nah I'd win.

>> No.68578838

>>68578107
>Pekora debuts on 17 July 2019
>3D debut in 14 December,2019
>Corona started spreading around November 2019 which is considerd the Holoboom
>???????????
Enna are you ok?

>> No.68579096

If you try to get Cover stock through Schwab, you have to purchase above a certain threshold of shares otherwise you have to call their customer service to process it if you want to buy just a handful since they apparently trade in volumes of 100 shares normally, least that was what I was told when I picked up a few shares after it was possible to do so.

>> No.68579192

>>68561712
holoKEKS

>> No.68579343

>>68578838
Not that retard, but there were zero corona mandates anywhere outside of china until early 2020. It wasn't relevant to vtubers during 2019.

>> No.68579451

its chinese new year anon
this is a very normal phenomenon if you play stock you know

>> No.68579807

>>68567931
NTA but I have a fidelity account and I still can't find it, what am I doing wrong?

>> No.68581918

>>68579807
Did this anon's link not work for you? >>68567520

>> No.68581945

>>68579096
Fidelity usually doesn't have minimums.

>> No.68585120

>>68567190
based sociopath, fuck chuubas my portfolio must go UP

>> No.68586412

>>68564001

We have seen Cover at its worst (How they handled the whole China incident at the start) and they came out victorious in the end.

>> No.68586860

>>68564776
there won’t be a stock market in 2040

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>>68566997
>robinhood in 2024
LMAO

>> No.68587300

>>68568013
It's the classic buy the rumors sell the news. They dip because people who bought before the financial reports cashed out after that. They don't pay dividends so it's basically a shitcoin casino using financials as an excuse to look legit

>> No.68588424

>>68568013
lunar new year is holiday season in asia

>> No.68588873

>>68579096
Oh thanks this is exactly what I was trying to figure out.

>> No.68589701

>>68565131
Because it's a growth company. You want to see extremely high growth. That's the point. They don't pay dividend for you to hold the stock long term at a stagnant value.

>> No.68590512

>>68581918
Oh, I'm dumb. Thanks

>> No.68593088

>>68562509
How can you even buy it as an European

>> No.68593328

>>68586860
Yes there will, it's going to be a flying stock market for extra futurism.

>> No.68593473

>Every time dramafag brings up the AnyColor stock to shitpost, their favorite company takes a harder hit afterward
Lol You never learned any lesson?

>> No.68593540

Nijisanji suck cocks in hell.

>> No.68593781

>>68563463
The stock market is so dumb. That such shit is the bedrock of the world economic system stinks.

>> No.68595314

Stocks newbie here, only ever used CashApp, what's the best app to use for purchase of international stocks like Cover? CashApp ain't got jack on them, which sucks cause that's my current portfolio.

>> No.68595430

>>68561712
i still remember when niji got 5k yen
what happened

>> No.68595464

>>68561712
Will retards finally learn the fate of both companies as the top dogs of the industry are intimately tied together and the reason why they seem to get along professionally? Probably not.

>> No.68595864

>>68562534
>WAAAH I WANT FAME AND MONEY WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE ANY SACRIFICES

>> No.68596497

>>68562534
>basically always having to be pure virgin dolls
Not a thing except for early years of the most popular idol groups like AKB.
There's obviously stigma around it and that's why they all keep their private life under heavy wraps, but you have to be incredibly retarded to think companies put a chastity belt on their talents.

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>>68565131
Japan has also had large trend of a bull run recently so investors may be expecting more from Japanese firms.

>> No.68598950

>>68561920
Which one?

>> No.68601674

>>68562004
Not for long

>> No.68601819

>>68565131
Shareholds are morons. Imagine your job is to cook an egg. A single egg in a day. You major shareholder in this egg cooking company says he wants more eggs made and sold. You now cook two eggs a day. Now he wants four eggs a day made and sold. Then 8, 16, 32. 64, 128, 256, 512. Because shareholders for some reason think growth is infinite and ignore the implausibility of their requests because they want more money.

>> No.68603203

>>68596497
How many Japanese owned corpo livers reveal they have an SO, vs. how many people in their 20's there are who don't have SO's?

Granted, they kinda have to hide it when they to do the whole GFE/BFE thing, because people are parasocial as fuck, and think they're being cucked if one of the comediennes they watch so much as talks to someone of the opposite sex. But the same remains true even if they aren't XFE. Look at the public freak out that happens when HoloLive and HoloStars even show their images in the same commercial trailer, FFS.

And there's so much other shit they aren't even allowed to even talk about or be caught talking about, much of it critical and life changing.

The way they objectify their employees and the stranglehold they have on them is more than a little disturbing to western morality and work standards.

>> No.68603293

>>68603203
>objectify
post tits
>western morality and work standards.
japanese company, cope and seethe

>> No.68603304

>>68565033
>The people who dislike idol culture aren't their target audience anyway.
Most stock holders aren't their target audience either, and the more often shit that puts all their talent's lives in danger like this latest fiasco reaches the news, the wider that stigma is going to become. Eventually it'll bleed over into their actual target audience, the people that actually "care" about these talents, shrinking the market niche further.

>> No.68603392

>>68595864
Not even Western movie stars, who have so much more money and are so much more famous, are choked to the point where they can't be seen talking with members of the opposite sex.

Companies like Vshojo aren't like this, but the stigma these would-be Japanese idol companies create is going to rub off on them and the whole industry, affecting even the indis.

>> No.68603441

>>68603293
Japanese companies, trying to expand into western markets with increasingly worse PR, that's the problem here.

>> No.68603547

>>68603441
Again, cope and seethe
Vtubing originated in Japan
Go watch your e-thots with FaceRig licenses instead if you don't like it but stop trying to change and/or destroy what was already here before you arrived

>> No.68603637

>>68603392
Can you fuck off with your cultural imperialism, Amerishart? The rest of the world is not obligated to follow your retarded secular morality and sensibilities. In fact, we are laughing at you looking from the outside in.

>> No.68603941

>>68578838
It wasn't about her 3d debut, retard. She had a feud with the staff because they denied her to do a 3d live while five gen was allowed to have their 3d debuts. She menaced to quit. It was around January 2021.

>> No.68603998

>>68603547
>>68603637
Shooting the messenger whose just splaining reality to you. However much you weebs pretend to be Japanese, companies that violate western sensibilities while operating in the west, tend to get driven into the dirt.

Granted, not even the Japanse are usually willing to put up with a company that puts all their talent's lives in danger, but most of them don't seem to know or care what's really going on at NijiEN.

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68604182

>>68603998
I don't give a single fuck about Nijisanji but everyone knows you won't stop there with your retarded Oshi-no-Ko induced crusade
Get the fuck away from my hobby

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68604324

Yellow is a competently managed company which has 100% growth in value since it floated.

Blue has a nice boat. And it's share price has grown the same % merchandising percentage they give their talents.

One is not like the other

>> No.68604409

>>68604182
I'm with you, I don't want the normies getting involved either - but the more often we have news worthy events of attempted suicides and the like, revealing these business practices, the more they are going to get involved and stock holders be made aware, and the less likely western vtuber companies will be allowed to pick up the slack.

>> No.68604658

>>68564924
Why should it impact their games? China does fucked up shit but I bet you have things that says “made in China” somewhere in your house. If they make good products at the cost of ethics why should I mind? Though I don’t actually buy blizzard games I do that for everything

>> No.68604754

>>68561712
I kinda wish that these uninformed stock charts threads would be banned from this board. Yes, we have established that 90% of anons don't know what they're talking about when it comes to finance.

>> No.68605464

>>68562534
I don’t like that you’ve made sense but you’re right. They want businesses to treat every employee like it’s the ceo while mistreating those very same employees when they go to said businesses. You’re wrong about one thing though
Doki bird is what you get when you’re propped up by every dramafag in the gaming space, Iron Mouse is what you get when a website artificially boosts you, Mori is what you get when money boosts you, and then you have Gura. These are currently the 4 biggest vtubers in the west one will fade into obscurity in the next few days, money is keeping one afloat while every trackable stat does worse year to year or is just blocked now, if twitch ends up any worse the third will fall off, but Gura is an anomaly. She’s a vtuber, a loli, sometimes falls into gfe, incredibly inconsistent, loves the idol aspect of hololive, but she’s the only vtuber that’s at the same level of regular streamers. It’s a meme that chumbuds hate hololive but it’s not entirely inaccurate there’s a subset of her fans that hate all of that lolis, idol work, other vtubers not just Hololive yet they continue to watch her. I’m not saying more Gura’s will pop up but it’s a fact that she’s proof of concept.

>> No.68605919

>>68565033
For a while that was the audience. Even Kiara was trying to find an outside audience. I’m not saying Kiara didn’t want to be an idol just that she was looking for a new audience. The only person that kept the same path, ironically getting that separate audience, is Gura. Fauna and Mumei did the same

>> No.68605991

>>68566493
Time to call out a threadreader what mistakes has cover learned from? They repeat the same shit constantly

>> No.68606213

>>68566952
That’s false 21% is split between managing the agency and managing talents can’t you read? Even at a 70/30 split the most talent managers they could have is 58-59 so If you want to get technical with the amount of generations niji have with the middle management it would equal the same amount of talent managers that hololive has. You don’t watch streams so you don’t know most of the talents share managers only a select few have a personal manager

>> No.68606256

>>68605991
When they had management issues, they did major restructuring and hired quite a bit more, which calmed the girls down quite a bit, and allowed them to deal with their last bit of drama very gracefully by comparison.

Unlike NijiEN's management which defends itself by pointing the finger at their talents and putting all their lives in danger, and after that, instead of clarifying, debunking, apologizing, or making change, doubles down even more.

>> No.68606485

I think I'd like to own 100 shares of Cover. What's a non-shit broker listing them in the US?
I'd have bought them on IPO if I could, but at current exchange rates, aren't they like $18 a share?

>> No.68606795

>>68571249
>>68571467 (wrong time)
>>68573329 (retard)
Overvaluation of stock value which was fixed. Anycolor was explosive in growth and to this day, until seen otherwise, the most profitable vtuber organization so people jumped in expecting explosive growth like other tech companies going public and it had no standards for comparison. Ironically it helped cover reach a more stable value out the gate because it didn’t make as much and had something to be compared to. As I’ve seen though it also links cover to anycolor as far as their stock goes. If selen’s termination actually had an effect, doubt it, Coco would’ve collapsed both companies.

>> No.68606860

>>68575747
Mel was terminated recently, paid events are doing well but their standard stuff is now doing worse, it’s also a vtuber company beholden to a very few talents. What are you talking about

>> No.68606904

>>68578838
I thought it was a joke that you people were newfags. Were you actually born recently?

>> No.68607047

>>68586412
They lost 3 or 4 talents then Coco left. People were saying Hololive would die for months, granted it was dramafags but some of those dramafags was Mori’s friends

>> No.68607170

>>68563463
>>68565131
>>68593781
>/vt/ hates homostars and 24/7 complains about them being leeches and a drain on money
>w-why did Cover not meet their earnings report financial markets suck man
There's a reason Cover failed to meet expected growth and homos are one of those many reasons. Their stock dipping is correct.

>> No.68607272

>>68603392
Movie stars kiss people on screen the stalkers they get know they aren’t in a relationship they just want to fuck. But you’re still wrong it’s not uncommon for schizos to think the on screen relationship is real so when they see them in another relationship they go to town on the person they are “cheating” with. It’s happened to multiple high profile stars but you wouldn’t know that since you don’t live in the west

>> No.68607318

>>68598950
The one that isn’t actively on fire anon

>> No.68607669

>>68606256
False most members still share managers, and they still have issues with managements to the point that certain members have a revolving door of them. If you take their 21% at face value there are 84 managers for about 67-79 members depending on when it was posted. Seems like a decent amount except talent managers and agency managers are separated so at a 50/50 split there are 42 talent managers for 67 people upwards of 79 people. So you’re talking out your ass.
The girls did like the added staff and amenities they were given especially at the studio but that wasn’t a learning moment or a mistake

>> No.68608065

>>68565131
Despite what the super intelligent analysts at vt want you to believe the people causing the scale to move aren’t dumb they only care about making money. Cover has had 4-5 new debuts, doubled the amount of paid events, tripled the amount cheap merch sold but they still undershot projections. Maybe botting advent didn’t actually increase their worth, maybe regloss was a mistake, these are valid possibilities or maybe Yagoo outright claiming that debuting homos had the same value as Suisei’s sololive if not greater was the wrong move. Could be a mix of all 3 but even if the first 2 are true debuting more girls would still be worth more than tying rocks to your feet

>> No.68608913

>>68561712
I just think it’s important to remember that no matter what, it’s NEVER okay to take your frustrations out on the company that made you who you are.

>> No.68609006

>>68562509
What if I'm in EU?

>> No.68609059

>>68593088
just use any broker, tr, sc, or ing

>> No.68611944

>>68568013
This is why people called you all retarded in the other 5 stocks threads.

>> No.68612026

>>68572651
More like SELL SELL SELL

>> No.68612270

>>68603637
The west includes the EU. Arguably these cultural values would extend into Latin America as well.
This is how I know you're Chinese.

>> No.68612404

>>68612270
I'm eastern European

>> No.68612544

Bros, why is Selen's firing having a non-negligible effect on Cover???

>> No.68612675

>>68561712
where can i buy that dip????

>> No.68612870

>>68612544
Nijisanji practices of driving a talent into a suicide attempt rouses industry-wide concerns among investors regarding Japanese-run vtuber talent agencies. Cover is one of those agencies.

>> No.68612939

>>68612544
Investors are just trend followers. Seeing the Selen situation probably makes them think ALL Vtubing is like that or that at least the big corpos are.

>> No.68612979

>>68612544
Investors are finally seeing idol culture for what it is - sick and twisted filth.

>> No.68613021

>>68561847
A PER of 63.6x and 77% overvalued based on the discounted cash flow model.

Why should I buy this?

>> No.68613108

>>68604324
>anycolor 3330 jpy
>cover 2610 jpy
Nice self own, holotard

>> No.68613226

>>68613108
One compamy has more shares in ceirculation, so their price per share is lower.

>> No.68613270

>>68603293
Funny how this fetish for Japanese "culture" only consists of incels defending their draconian practices when it comes to relationship bans but they'll still start screeching when the Japanese tell the Westerners that Selen was being a mendou and they're glad she's gone. What happened to respecting cultural values?

>> No.68613310

>>68612979
Anon Shareholders are literally the people who tell corporations to turn their workers into slave labor so they can make more profits. They're the ones who lobby to destroy any regulations that would pump the breaks on companies' shady dealings and destruction of cities and environments. Literally half the world's problems can be attributed to corporate shareholders turning companies black.

>> No.68613315

>>68561712
Anycolor > cover

>> No.68613393

>>68613270
>they'll still start screeching when the Japanese tell the Westerners that Selen was being a mendou and they're glad she's gone
Nice strawman retard, I don't give a shit about Selen
Furthermore, Japs live in their own bubble and has 0 idea what's going on overseas in terms of vtubing nor do they care so it's fair that they only went off of the official kurosanji announcement when forming their opinion on Selen's termination

>> No.68613404

>>68613226
Oh, which one?

>> No.68613432

>>68613310
I like this anon's implication that the stock prices decrease for cover is because they aren't more like anycolor.

>> No.68613484

>>68561712
COVER didn't need to go publicly traded, now they have to listen to evil old men taken straight from Kaiji

>> No.68613496

>>68562509
>trusting your money on the backs of mentally ill women to not do anything stupid
I'm good

>> No.68613512

>>68613432
That is 100% the case, remember last year the leaked shareholders meeting they straight up asked Yagoo to cut wages to the talents.

>> No.68613916

>>68586412
I would not call that victorious.
I specifically avoid corpo vtubers and the few from Hololive I still watch were greatly reduced in importance, and watch time.

Their hyper growth projection model is going to hit a wall when they can't rely on the few big names to prop up their profits and some reduce their activity.

>> No.68614129

>>68613512
It's beyond how anyone can say that COVER is in any way an evil company after that
Sure, some middle management may be bad people but Yagoo is probably the best CEO in existence only rivaled by Gabe Newell

>> No.68614360

>>68612870
>of driving a talent into a suicide attempt rouses industry-wide concerns among investors regarding Japanese-run vtuber talent agencies. Cover is one of those agencies.

Investors won't care if it's Japanese run or not: more likely is that investors have come to understand that the major VTuber companies have peaked, so there's no real reason to keep any stock in them.

They might be worried about whether or not the VTuber agencies have been checking with any lawyers for local talents, though: the agencies probably overstepped into employment territory (as opposed to Livers being contractors,) which opens up more liability.

Early on, these companies might not have had enough employees to open them up to that much liability, but at this point, that's probably changed.

>> No.68614422

>>68579096
I just put in an order through schwab. I had to call in to make the order, even for 100 shares. If I wanted to buy less than 100, I would have had to pay an extra fee apparently.

>> No.68614452

>>68614360
>VTuber companies have peaked
lol
lmao

>> No.68614609

>>68614129
>best CEO
For the employees, sure. I bet the shareholders don't think that way though.

>> No.68614636

Can I buy them on Robin Hood?

>> No.68614859

>>68614609
>For the employees, sure.
Yeah, which is all that matters
(((Financial investors))) should all be rounded up and shot, they're parasites and deserve nothing except a slow and painful death

>> No.68615444

>>68614452
you think there's ganna be much more weebs that watch vtubers?

sure profits will grow due to whales buying more merch but like any anime the fad will die down

>> No.68615512

>>68615444
>weebs
Did you perhaps consider that the entire country of Japan, the place from which vtubing originates, exists? And that hololive is pretty much mainstream there at this point? Retard?

>> No.68615951

>>68609059
I checked those earlier, they don't list Cover Corp. I would have to use one of the bigger, expensive brokers.

>> No.68616508

>>68562004
Revenue is still increasing every quarter, they're fine.

>> No.68616518

>>68615512
you telling me to invest in anime, a historically shitty industry with no growth prospects that caters to a demographically shrinking country?

fuck off weeb your poor and you don't understand business

>> No.68616738
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68616738

>>68561712

is the cover stock doing worse because retard boomerjew investors think Nijisanji and Hololive are the same?

>> No.68617509

hours watched
> miko : 815,365
> koyori : 647,602
> subaru : 540,891
> pekora : 340,025

>> No.68617536

>>68616518
I never told you to invest in anything retard

>> No.68618472

>>68563463
Is this why Gura streamed for a bit last last week

>> No.68618923

>>68615951
I use InteractiveBrokers which lets ya buy 5253 (Cover Corp) right off the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

>> No.68620780

>>68587036
this
>>68566997
are you fucking retarded?

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