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I need non-EOPs to tell me what nijiJP is like, and if they're just as bad or worse than the travesty that is EN.
/jp/ and /数字/ don't seem to really give a fuck, and think everything is hunky-dory on their end

>> No.68530065

>>68530008
Just watch Hololive retard

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>>68530008
Eat this lead nanora.

>> No.68530182

>asking this on the holobrony board
Bruh... you aren't going to get any non-biased responses. Delete your thread.

>> No.68530239

>>68530008
I watch a few and they're just like indies to me. I don't feel any motivation to check out others from their company, just whoever is streaming content I'm interested in.

>> No.68530254

>>68530150
Funny Luna

>> No.68530702

>>68530008
>and if they're just as bad or worse than the travesty that is EN.
Well that depends, you'll have 200 people to choose from and you can fit your narrative however you want depending on what members you choose.
But I think the main difference is that the successful males didn't have to sell their soul to chinese fujos and so they can be more fun to watch.

>> No.68530740

You mean in terms of like management or whatever? JP isn't perfect either, but the expectations there are very different. A lot of them are just there to fuck around and have fun, I feel like ENs expect a lot more

>> No.68530750

>>68530008
There are like a hundred of talents in JP, but only the popular ones receive special treatment. Most talents must find a part time job to support themselves.

>> No.68530769

>>68530008
They're like EN but worse. Nearly every vtuber who left Nijisanji has been traumatized like Selen. It's criminal how much shit they get away with.

>> No.68530842

>>68530702
Why aren't there Western fujos to support them?

>> No.68531019

>>68530008
They're a lot more seiso than /vt/ thinks they are, especially the smaller ones. Mito is still wildly popular and doing her schizo thing. Fans don't care much about male collabs but there are less than you think. Lots of FPS and uninspired content but that's no different to Hololive if we're being honest. Normalfag-ish fanbase. None of the members of fans give a single fuck about the other branches. Full of actual menheras who would stab you. They're much better than EN and sex as hell if you're into gyaru sluts like Matsuri and Ririka. Decent cunnies worth checking out.

>> No.68531163

>>68530740
Maybe the ENs expect more because NijiEN seems to want to control more aspects of their livers personal lives?

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>>68530008
I'm EOP but Mito sex.

>> No.68531308

>>68530740
Imagine expecting the company taking a 98% cut to provide something in return

>> No.68531392

>>68530008
It has tons of retarded problems for sure and their vtuber school or something will fail so badly, it will only produce boring cookie cutter vtubers, but it doesn't affect their existing vtubers, so leave them alone. Niji EN vtubers are very tumblr/twitter leaning. Niji JP livers are much more like Hololive JPs.

>> No.68531417

>>68530008
You won't care because many of them do mixed gender collabs.

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>>68530008
Yeah, they're good/entertaining, and that's all that should matter, I don't really care about the politics of Pepsi and Coke. The NijiJp fanbase in this site never, ever, cared for EN at all, which in hindsight was a pretty good decision.

>> No.68531563

>>68531163
Maybe, I don't know much about EN so I can't say
>>68531392
The VTA debuts have been great, what do you mean?

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yo remember when niji jp hired a literal rapist

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>>68531444

>> No.68531709

>>68530008
>N-nijiJP is better guys, I promise!
>Multiple ex-JPs telling about how much they hated management
Same shit with a different coat of paint

>> No.68531799

>>68530008
EN talent and audience is too tumblr for me I don't want anything to do with them. Anycolor on JP side has problem but not enough to get in the way of my enjoyment so I don't care.

>> No.68531876

>>68530842
The fujos are too busy playing Love and Deepspace

>> No.68531877

>>68531674
I wish that was me

>> No.68531911

>>68530008
Only jp Nijis I watch are Salome and Hoshikawa Sara, so I don't really know what the branch as a whole is like, but those two are pretty all right.

>> No.68531980

>>68531709
>Multiple ex-JPs telling about how much they hated management
Same time applies to Cover. That's why is stupid to be a tribalist and root for a profit seeking corporation. Unless you're a shareholder, the corps interests are not necessarily aligned with your own.

>> No.68532012

>>68531877
You want to be abused by Mito or you want to abuse a loli?

>> No.68532086

>>68530008
Not gonna talk about the talents since there's a ton of them, you can find whatever, but what I will say is that their audience is as awful as Nijisanji EN's.

>> No.68532105

>>68530008
>bullysanji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xioqts2jiTw

>> No.68532134

>>68530008
There's lots of really good people in there, some like Lize or Ars for example would fit perfectly in hololive, and many of the bigger members are very good content creators, but it also is extremely mismanaged and they let A LOT of bad actors in over the years, these have harassed other members into straight up quitting due to the drama, popular examples being Roa and Luna, those not always being small, Roa was extremely well liked among the Niji members and fans alike, Nijisanji getting rid of the people stirring the pot is and was fast as Gura doing math, so usually the damage has already been done
They're also horrid with the Accelerate bullshit, I've seem many of the members I like go down to 3 view territory, and have a stream a week due to burning out, with their audience being sent to the new members, many since have picked back up as the new waves don't generate hype anymore due to the excess

>> No.68532153

I saw this one reply in a thread that I forgot which thread it is so I can't quote it but it basically says nijiJP have some sort of favourtism.
The roa and meiro incident sums up pretty well because roa being the beloved kid back then niji just stand with her side and basically told meiro "change your accent for your senpai, stop copying her accent you retard".
I mean meiro reaching to korekore (biggest JP dramafag, he is the one michael gato reached out to as well) is schizo but management can definitely do better.

It also definitely sucks to be one of the liver that sits at dead bottom, they hardly get exposures outside of big events or it requires luck, one example of luck I can think of is Belmond, when he is still a 2view, if it wasn't sasaki fucked around with him he probably still suffers with half of the sub count he has now, ange also kind of affected him too by simping her ass off?
Even with talent it is still kinda hard to blow the fuck up tho. I personally really like Levi Elipha's singing but she is still a 2view to this day. I mean obviously people have different taste in singer but to me the fact she is half of sub count than Machita Chima is quite sad, she deserves more.

Still, have to give them some credit, some livers graduated in quite good terms. Two of my favorite singer Melissa and Chitose both graduated to pursue a singing career without that much issues.

>> No.68532185

>>68532012
Who wouldn't want Mito to beat them up? And then get forcefeed natto until you like it (you never will)

>> No.68532196

>>68531980
>Same time applies to Cover
Source : My neighbor Alan

>> No.68532252

>>68531980
>Same time applies to Cover.
lol and lmao

>> No.68532300
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>>68532185
you'd fuck this?

>> No.68532308

>>68532153
>korekore
What's with this guy? Why can't they wipe him out like Narukami Sabaki?

>> No.68532331

>>68531578
Shindo Raito did nothing wrong, bring my boy back.

>> No.68532360

They're the same shit. Management is incompetent, audience is full of horrendous twitter fujos. They're also going down the drain, slower than EN, but with the same certainty. Their fanbase likes to pretend they don't see the signs but they know it's happening all the same.

>> No.68532378

> the Niji-hating Holo thread seems to think everything is hunky dory in Niji!
Cool bait, bro, make another 13458 threads.

>> No.68532433

>>68530008
ex gibara, ex gundou and ex warabeda had a recent stream recently and called their last workplace a prison, and commented on the fact that their accountants were panicking over the fact that they were making 3x more money after they left their old job.
Mayuzumi warned his fans about if niji showed him after his graduation it would be skinwalking - niji done it anyways
chihiro left because she was poor and bullied and niji treated her like an indie most of times not offering any support against antis
some male liver caught on flat out fraud a couple of times
lauren caught with pirated nipple porn; and later caught with targetered ads for several different botting sites after searching for them too much
gundou terminated for making a baseball joke some months before koshien
complaints about the quality of their paygated 3D lives
and the list can go on

>> No.68532517

>>68532153
Thing is, Roa's accent isn't her native accent, instead she altered the way she spoke due to a friend, Meiro was pretending it was just the two having the accent from the same place, but that wasn't the accent, the way the two were speaking wasn't native to anywhere, Meiro simply started copying something Roa felt very personal about to play the victim afterwards because "it turns out the nice and kind Roa was just a bully in the end" gets a lot of clout, but people didn't buy it and with Roa then leaving as she decided to bring Meiro to court, Meiro would be fired from Nijisanji
Mistake wasn't favoritism towards Roa, the mistake was letting someone like Meiro in

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>>68530008
iinchou is the only niji worth watching

>> No.68532552

>>68532300
Nazono Mito fucks they don't get fucked

>> No.68532576

>>68532541
This.

>> No.68532582

>>68532517
>the mistake was letting someone like Meiro in
Can't have any talent vetting when you are accelerating, see Pako Raitou

>> No.68532594

>>68532134
Roa, Luna and Gibara are the ones we know of.

>> No.68532614

>>68532308
literally too big to fail. theres no dirt on him personally, and he is a highly connected individual in the net talent sphere in japan, much more so than narukami ever was

>> No.68532623

>>68531980
Name a more iconic duo than Nijisisters and False Equivalency.

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>>68530008
I will never forgive them

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>Nijiprison pigs
lmao nice thread, gundou tripled her revenue btw

>> No.68532677

>>68530008
their management is possibly worse than EN but it's really up to them if they don't want to go indie yet

>> No.68532709

>>68532433
Great points but a couple of those are yabs purely to do with the talents and not management.

>> No.68532791

>>68530150
I read all lunaposts in Luna's voice, it's crazier she's the easier to sound perfect English in my head

>> No.68532818

>>68531563
They stopped hiring WILD talents. The unique talents with a quirky personality don't join such a stiff school program. They are often so retarded as hell a comical way they unknowingly break the standards/trends of the vtuber industry. You should know what livers are actually popular in Niji JP or Holo JP.

>> No.68532873

>>68532308
He's not really a bad person, MoistCritikal might be the best EN comp to him.

>> No.68532891

There are literally so many nijiJP that you can probably find someone who's drama free and not particularly involved in the wider scope of things. Ohayama, Setomiya, even Emma August. Those are the ones I watch.

>> No.68532889
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Ars cute

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>>68532650
>gets stalked
>doesn't give a fuck
>management wants her to stop streaming so they can build a legal case against stalker and accrue damages
>she just wants to stream
>leaves

>> No.68532991

>>68532252
Newfag

>> No.68533061

>>68532991
go on then, tell us about it

>> No.68533078

>>68532889
D-Dekai

>> No.68533239

>>68532650
lulu graduating the same month as coco made me so ill i literally threw up

>> No.68533244

I've occasionally watched nijis like Mito, Himawari, Sasaki, Furen and Chigusa. It's not really different than watching HoloJP. Of course I skip anything with men in it.

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>>68532517
Yeah you are kinda right, I highly agree meiro is complete schizo when she reached out to anyone but korekore to help her. Then again niji hire process are just questionable, the fact that people pako raito got in says a lot.

>>68532308
Other anon's reply is pretty much it >> 68532614
Lots of twisted japanese just follow him because they are dramafag as well. And narukami is only about chuubas which is easier to bomb.

>>68532433
Pic related
The fact that warabeda also thought niji a prison kinda bothered me ngl. Always thought she's just fucking sad because her every single friend was gone, chitose, gibara.

>Captcha: HNNNG

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>>68533239
dark times

>> No.68533321

>>68532185
Moco-chan...

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>>68532650
>>68532980
>The only way they could get back to streaming regularly is by leaving the shithole company preventing them from doing so in the first place
History has a habit of repeating itself, even if the circumstances are different...

>> No.68533451

>>68533239
>>68533307
As a fan of both at the time I really did feel like shit back then...

>> No.68533538

>>68530008
>I need non-EOPs to tell me what nijiJP is like
I can't explain it

hundreds of talents, but they just can't seem to capture the hearts of ESL/EOPs. Barely anyone is clipping them outside of JP too

Lulu is probably the only interesting chuuba with EN fanbase/clippers because she seriously plays games with interesting reactions

so the answer is this >>68530065

>> No.68533557

I feel like Eden Gumi was the soft cutoff point for quality in JP whe it comes to the talents.

>> No.68533567

>>68530008
When it comes to personality and content, there's nothing that separates them from Hololive (except for the males, ofc) or from any other vtuber. There's a bit more variety because everyone does their own thing, but most of them would fit right in with Hololive and vice versa.

>> No.68533571

>>68532980
NDF refuses to acknowledge this in light of recent events

>> No.68533620

Management is bad, but they can get away with it more as a Japanese company (employees will suck it up).
Tech-wise, Cover has caught up and is now ahead of them. I know some people really like Niji 3D though (never cared much myself).
They've got a huge issue on talent visibility. I'm not talking about their bigger livers not getting that much clips and stuff in the West. I'm talking about all the 3view they've got. A lot of good/great streamers that will never blow up in views and won't ever get any support from the company.
At this point Niji has still two big advantages over the others: a complete grip on male vtubing, and great relationships with other companies coming from their heydays (like Konami or the Pokemon Company).

>> No.68533659

>>68532818
You have a point there, but it's not like only the "crazy" ones are popular. It's not like VTA is some brainwashing facility where they go "THIS is the ideal vtuber, do you best to become like this", they just teach them basic skills and whatnot
The VTA graduates are all quite unique

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>>68530150
heh

>> No.68533740
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>>68532541
>>68532576
Wrong.

>> No.68533946

>>68530008
Back in the day the appeal of NijiJP is that they had a lot more freedom and certain talents could be a lot more unhinged than HoloJP generally. That isn't really the case anymore as of last year. Mito makes great music if you're into quirky Jpop stuff though.

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>>68533740
feels like she doesn't do enough to take advantage of her model, aside from the 3D shorts, those are great

>> No.68534193

>>68530008
She is like Niji's Sora.

>> No.68534218

This thread info is damn old or too drama faggy. The actual popular ones today are different from that and drama free. For instance, the famous ones with no stupid Twitter drama like Mito, Hoshikawa, Toko, Anju, Shiina, Ars, Debi etc aside, Yorumi, Hayama, Nui, and Naraka are getting widely popular bc they stream like hardcore video game addicts. The existing famous ones aren't good at video games so much. Yorumi is now even popular in Holo JP due to Subaru and Polka who have often collabed with her lately.

>> No.68534233

>>68530008
Lulu and others left for a reason. It's a black company on both sides.

>> No.68534242

>>68531980
>>68532991
>ex-JPs complaining about Cover
So that would be... Kson, who said this:
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1656226203576188931?lang=en
Or Mikeneko, who is completely fucking insane.

>> No.68534420

>>68534193
She isn't though. She's more like the Niji version of (pre HoloGen 4) Fubuki. I.E. a very popular member who connects well with her kouhais and who is often used for external media.

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>>68534143
I'm kinda glad Nui isn't that popular and not even trying to appeal to the Western crowd in any way. Her mannerisms are cute, her 3D shorts are funny and her choice of games is fanatastic. Hope she stays for a year or two more.

>> No.68534442

>>68530008
Great talents, awful fans. Think of them are the numberfags of the JP community. No one likes them and don't deserve good people.

>> No.68535161

>>68533708
kek

>> No.68535204

>>68531257
Kaede's Kaedes...

>> No.68535282

>>68531674
>Mito will never bully you in front of her friends
Sad.

>> No.68535343

>>68534242
Probably aloe and CN as well. Hololive has fewer total members, so of course you're going to have fewer examples.

>> No.68535393

>>68534442
>numberfags of the JP community
except sites like vstats and matome blogs are run by holofags
after the p2y incident i wouldn't even be surprised if cover was paying them

>> No.68535438

>>68535343
>ex-JP
>CN
I'll give you Aloe though, I do remember her airing her greivences at one point (and regretting it immediately after).

>> No.68535492

>>68531578
Is this the guy that talked about drugging jk girls and fucking them? Or was it wanting to have an off-collab so he can fuck other livers?
Can someone tell me exactly what he did so I can use it to send accurate hate toward nijiniggers

>> No.68535681

>>68535492
The latter, literally got fired after debut due to this. When you debut talents as fast as Niji does I guess you don't have time to do the slightly bit of opsec.

>> No.68535684

>>68535438
Aloe was actually grateful Cover's management for taking care of her during the doxxing drama, nijinigs take that one schizo post she made when Coco announced her graduation as "proof" that she hates cover.

Also
>CN
rumao

>> No.68535754

>>68531578
Crazy that they even gave him the most rapist looking model in all of vtubing. Should've just gone through with it at that point desu

>> No.68535764

>>68535684
In her current form, she made a criticism on twitter about Cover management in response to something (can't quite remember what) and then quickly retracted her statement and apoligized. This was a while back when she was having a bit of a menhera episode, she seems to be doing a lot better now.

>> No.68535855

>>68535492
Both, he ran an offpako twitter where he bragged about tricking girls into sex (some of them who where legal JKs) but people also found out his master plan in one of his tweets where he proposed the idea of becoming a streamer and inviting female streamers for off-collabs to fuck them.

>> No.68535863

>>68531444
They will never be Japanese

>> No.68535907

>>68532300
That's a dude

>> No.68535933

>>68532671
>almost all of it is from fantia
Am I supposed to be impressed? Any vtuber with a semi-sizable following could do this right now and 10x their income

>> No.68535958

>>68534242
This has been posted before but this was not about cover, this was about vshojo. She bragged very openly shortly after making this tweet on stream about how she had just re negotiated her contracts to make more money off of merchandise.
According to several EN members, merch is literally one of the worst ways to support them outside of birthday Merch and other special event merch.

They're long ago were some grievances aired by kson about the way the company operated, including stuff like making her roommate at the time leave due to NDA, and stuff like that. People just memory hole this because it's easier to look at one Japanese company and go
>Surely they're not all like that!!
Well conveniently ignoring that One of the closest Japanese industries to V tubing would be videogames and you can honestly see how "great" the industry is over there by looking at companies like Konami, Nintendo and even Capcom to a certain extent.

The sooner people realize that Japan isn't this mystical land of milk and honey and is instead a boomer oriented country that survives off of convincing gullible foreigners to move there, the better.

>> No.68536120

Does Mito have the same status in her company as Sora?

>> No.68536219

>>68535764
>In her current form, she made a criticism on twitter about Cover management in response to something (can't quite remember what) and then quickly retracted her statement and apoligized.
It was Coco's graduation, she made a series of vague schizo posts on twitter alluding Cover's management right after Coco made her anouncement and took it back when Coco had her stream where she explained the details of her graduation the next morning.

>> No.68536223

>>68535958
>Japan isn't this mystical land of milk and honey
It is if you're a tourist and don't need to work there.

>> No.68536266

>>68535958
The point is more that even kson was shocked about how much Niji was lowballing talents - the 1-2% comment was a response to the zaion drama. I'm not trying to say Cover is perfect by any means - and I think it was far worse around the time of her graduation - but I don't think you can compare them to Nijisanji.

>> No.68536344

>>68536120
Yes but unlike Sora she's a giga Stacy, so she's feared. Imagine Suisei and Haachama combined with the sex appeal of Sora.

>> No.68536375

>>68536266
The 1-2% comment was in response to the drama around False's video about Niji's 2%, and yeah she threw a cheeky "lol, and I though 50% was bad" alluding at Cover's cut.

>> No.68536447

>>68530008
They fired Lulu because their management fucked up. Lulu literally died for their sin. I'll never forget this and will forever treat Niji as filthy Jews.

>> No.68536511

>>68533946
>freedom
Because there is no managment to stop you from doing shit

>> No.68536514

>>68536266
Curious how many Nijis are even capable of sustaining themselves without a side job. The least popular holos are only making a middle class income, and the average niji is probably below that.

>> No.68536650

>>68536514
Someone please post the image comparing Kunai's monthly SC earnings to a McDonalds burger flipper

>> No.68536669

>>68530008
There was a collar between Nui and Pekora (and more people from both sides I don't remember) when the Holo girls said something about their managers and asked the Niji girls if their managers are the same to which there was an awkward silence before the Nijis went "…we barely interact with our managers"

>> No.68536713

>>68536223
That is true, if you're somebody like a famous YouTuber or somebody who already has a lot of money and doesn't have to work there for a living it is probably Paradise to you.
>>68536266
The point is that she wasn't alluding to covers cut, she was talking about how much money she made off of Merch in vshojo. Getting a 50% cut off of merch is pretty good, it would be better than the cut that you'd get off of super chats but according to Fauna, unless it's a special event merch, merch does not pay nearly as much as you would think. So either cover change their policies within the two years that ksons been gone or The more likely scenario, she was openly bragging about her recent changes to her contract that allowed her to profit more off of merch than what she'd previously done.

Keep in mind that the only way that vshojo makes profit is off of merchandise. They do not take from your revenue elsewhere. Her contract was renegotiated around the same time that nyanners and veibae left.

>> No.68536731

>>68532433
On the Chihiro point they did at least fund her multiple cases against antis, of which she has quite possibly the most autistic ones I've ever seen. But also given the fact that she came back... what, less than 24 hours later? Makes it pretty clear they certainly didn't care beyond footing that bill.

There's also everything to do with last years NJU. The host had less control, multiple people didn't want to do segments, they didn't even say "you're doing too many" to people who are now on an extended indefinite hiatus due to health issues that could last years, so on and so forth.

>> No.68536732

>>68536669
*collab

>> No.68536756

>>68530008
It has its fair share of unique talents but if you think it doesn't have its own share of bullshit and ruined lives that have departed under a variety of circumstances then you are looking through rose-tinted glasses

Suzuhara Lulu
Otogibara Era
Yamiyono Moruru
Warabeda Meiji
Gundo Mirei
Kingyozaka Meiro

>> No.68536789

They fired a liver for saying that throwing a fastball at a batter seems like a solid strategy. It's black through and through.

>> No.68536813

>>68536514
There are about three members of EN who actually work a secondary job, one of them works a job that is unpaid as an intern. The money is still genuinely good money. Whether or not it's worth the Japanese oversight and all the drama that comes with it anymore, that's for you to decide. One of the latest waves had a member openly brag about how he paid off part of his student loans and how he paid off rent and other expenses with money that he earns solely from his job.
One of the lower earning members has paid off her student debts entirely in the two years that she's been in Niji.

>> No.68536868

>>68536514
Someone hasn't streamed for years. She must make more than gura.

>> No.68536874

>>68536713
anon, the original tweet literally mentions "1-2%" which was a viral phrase during that niji drama. Sure, the 50% may allude to Vshojo, but it was the 1-2% from Nijisanji specifically that shocked her.

>> No.68536877

>>68536789
I'll be straight heh, because baseball with you and tell you that was mostly just a scapegoat to get rid of someone who was a "brand risk" without too much pushback, since nips love their baseball and it was about a star player. If she'd said something stupid about Prada or made fun of how ugly Mario was it'd have had the same results.

>> No.68536891

https://www.youtube.com/@MachitaChima

I don't care about the branch itself very much, but I really really really really really really really like Machita Chima.

>> No.68537118

>>68536120
No, Mito is just a member that happen to debut first, not the same at all with Sora a literal founder and has real power in the company.

>> No.68537155

>>68531578
NTR face...

>> No.68537484

>>68536874
I'm not disagreeing, now granted the entire 1 to 2% thing was literally started because some guy who thought that he was smarter than he actually was, read a /#/s shit post making fun of Mysta for always complaining about how broke he was.
Regardless, that's not what I'm here to argue about. I'm arguing about the fact that people always link that tweet and say
>Well kson has never had anything bad to say about cover, look she made 50% in the time there!!
While ignoring that shortly after this tweet, she had a stream where she openly talked about contract negotiations going well for her and making more off of merch than she ever had before, that she had thrown shade at cover before especially for their handling of kanata and the handling of her YouTube channel in general while she was with them.
Japanese companies fucking suck.

Like I said, if you look into the Japanese video game industry you could even see examples of this coming through.
Konami literally fired the guy who made their bread and butter for going over budget on what was their most popular game.
Capcom for years has treated one of the most successful franchises, Devil May Cry, like it doesn't even exist and only recently have they somewhat changed their tune and started being better than they were.
Nintendo literally issues DMCAs against fan projects and has produced some of the lowest quality games out there year after year
Squenix can't figure out how to make a final fantasy game anymore

All this to say, Japan fucking sucks in a lot of ways. It doesn't matter which company you work for the sooner that people realize that Japanese companies in general fucking suck, the better

>> No.68537564

>>68536874
She said "I used to be bitching about 50%". As in that was her old arrangement. In her old company. Coco also alluded to them taking half of SCs while she was still with them.

>> No.68537568

>>68537484
You had a point until you started acting like a /v/tard when you shouldn't been a /vt/ard.

>> No.68537652

>>68537484
Feels like the Japanese rank and file are very strong, but held back by dogshit management/work culture.

>> No.68538070

>>68537568
If you have a problem with any of my criticisms of how Japanese video game companies have been treating their properties lately feel free to point it out. I'm not a /v/tard , I just can easily point out how fucking shit the closest industry in my opinion too Vtubing in Japan is.
>>68537652
That is very correct, Japan's stupid idea of what work culture should be, has held the country back severely but because they're too "tradition" oriented nothing will change.
At least not for several generations. They unironically have to appeal to foreigners because without foreigner money and babies the country would be on the brink of collapse. Japan is like a really shiny ball of tin foil hidden in some rocks. You might be drawn to it because you see this shiny object sitting out there amongst all this dull stuff but then you go to this shiny object and you're like
>Wow this is actually garbage

>> No.68538572
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68538572

>>68533078

>> No.68540695

>>68538070
Repetitive redditor garbage. Go back to r/Japan

>> No.68541318

>>68531257
Rin!

>> No.68541343

>>68530065
Fpbp
>>68530150
And /thread

>> No.68541433

>>68530182
Do you realize that you could answer OP's question?newfag

>> No.68541613

>>68531980
False

>> No.68541620

>>68530008
She seems to be close to Sana Natori (JP Indie)

>> No.68541937

>>68534420
True

>> No.68542181

>>68540695
>Not an argument

>> No.68543195

>>68532134
I wish my wife Claire was more popular

>> No.68543353

>>68531578
>we want the Redo of Healer audience

>> No.68543508

>>68530008
unless you're the top earner (or male) they don't care about you. if you fall into either catagory though, you can get away with anything you want.
after all, how many yabs has Lauren had and he's still around?
>>68531257
I want Deron to sit on my face

>> No.68543732

>>68535958
>This has been posted before but this was not about cover, this was about vshojo.
No it was not. Kson never complained about Vshojo's cut, she always maintained that it was fair and that she was happy enough with it to stop making her own merch and use Vshojo's store instead.
>She bragged very openly shortly after making this tweet on stream about how she had just re negotiated her contracts to make more money off of merchandise.
This did not happen. The only time Kson mentioned her contract was 3 months prior and the only thing she said about it was "it got better" when it had already been "good".

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