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68515522 No.68515522 [Reply] [Original]

What the fuck was nijisanji thinking

>> No.68515566

>This will all blow over in a week and everyone will forget.
>Buy more/new merch.
>Get ready for next two waves.

>> No.68515582

It's not for us lol
This shit of a letter is for investors

>> No.68515655
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>>68515522

>> No.68515734

>>68515566
>This will all blow over in a week and everyone will forget.
They're not wrong though. People are already moving on after Dokis stream.

>> No.68515742

>>68515582
They didn't make a letter like this for any other terminations
Also it's fucking pointless to do since it's literally just saying "dude trust me" to a bunch of people who by nature of their profession aren't trusting.

>> No.68515754

>>68515734
But enough about Kyo

>> No.68515817

I don't think Selen shared a lot of viewership with the rest of the company so hell yeah it'll affect revenue for their EN branch.

>> No.68516562

>>68515817
They also lost their Hyte collab too.

>> No.68516580

>>68515734
Kek, good one

>> No.68516638

>>68515734
It's very cute seeing you and your ilk run defense all over the board for this black company

>> No.68516662

Hmm, I dunno.
Lost someone willing to bankrupt herself to make projects for the branch.
Lost someone willing to do your own work for you. (and then whine at them in typical Japanese fashion, NOOO THE PAPERTRAAAIL)
Lost a fuckload of artists.
Lost a bunch of sponsors.
Lost trust in the community.
I'm pretty sure that's a huge fucking chunk of money now gone for good, unless they straight up state who was doing what and fire the managers. It is Japan, so that ain't happening.

>> No.68516682

>>68515734
indeed, advertisers are moving on to other agencies

>> No.68516688

>>68515522
Unironically they'll be fine without EN. They've axed IN, KR and ID branches before. For now, they'll hide behind 'support the talent' and just remain silent.

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>>68515522

>> No.68516732

>>68516705
KEK

>> No.68516734

>>68516662
Most of the people mad at them are nobodies. Regardless, they had to say this to save face for investors.

>> No.68516779

>>68515734
Dude people still haven't forgotten Zaion which was a much smaller magnitude and much more morally grey yab. This will be a permanent black mark forever whenever someone tries to defend Niji

>> No.68516791

>>68516562
the HYTE one is actually big because it's the first time in vtubing history that a company publicly declared they terminated a sponsorship with a vtuber corpo. that's going to look very bad to investors.

>> No.68516798

>>68516662
There's also more skeletons coming out of the NijiEN closet that will speed up the yacht's sinking.

>> No.68516919

>>68516705
which nijisanji wrote the IR you think

>> No.68517002
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>>68516705

>> No.68517175

>>68516734
It didn't save face for the investors. That notice was a monumental fuckup as far as investors are concerned. You know what people with a lot of money on the line DON'T want to hear?
>Hey some shit went down but don't panic
Turns out that makes people panic. Who knew, right?

>> No.68517285

>>68515522
>You alright, Harry? Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
>What was Tazumi thinking, sending Selen out that early?
>The thing about Nijisanji is, they always try and walk it in.
>That is true. See you later, /vt/.

>> No.68517322

>>68515655
>stocks
>financial results
could you please stop being retarded for just one moment?

>> No.68517374

>>68517175
>Wait, why are you posting this now? Let me investigate a bit... Why are talents leaving only to come back as indie after a week? Why am I finding harassment and bullying allegations dating as far back as the company's founding? Where is all the money going if you are not reinvesting into talents? Riku? Please respond.

>> No.68517489

>>68515522
its such an unnecessary comment too, did they ever mention the previous terminations/graduations in a financial result before?

>> No.68517636

>>68517489
No

>> No.68517690

>>68516779
Lol? Literally no one cares about Zaion. Her views dropped to below her pre-Niji numbers too. Toxic brand that no one trusts so she has to run to SEA dramatubers who will give her the attention she can't get anymore from men because she's expired

>> No.68517714

>>68515582
If I were an investor nothing would make me sell faster than hearing "nothing significant just happened" without any supporting arguments or details.

>> No.68517773

>>68517322
T. Retard

>> No.68517814

>>68515566
In a week? Nobody even cares anymore. NijiEN is streaming and getting the same numbers as they always used to, Twitter calmed down, all that remains are like 2 catalog threads and nothing else. It's over, scatter and go watch a stream.

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>>68515522
>Nijisanji
>thinking

>> No.68518005

>>68517690
>no one cares about Zaion
So why does she keep getting brought up as evidence for Niji being a shit show?

>> No.68518060

>>68518005
Where, in /#/? Everyone else already agreed that she was in the wrong.

>> No.68518080

>>68518005
She's used as a prop to bash Nijisanji and then tossed away like garbage immediately afterwards

>> No.68518090

>>68515655
draw the support line over the 6 month chart

>> No.68518139

>>68518080
Which is hilarious because it proves the point that people won't forget even minor fuck ups so it's even funnier watching nijisisters thinking that people will forget about Doki who was an actual popular and well liked streamer

>> No.68518232

>>68516791
Investor should demand Riku to step down.
They demanded oversea growth, they got kurosanji memes, big business company making statement anycolor is persona non grata, etc.
>>68517814
Lol

>> No.68518238

>>68518060
Zaion fucked up but that's not mutuallt exclusively to niji also fucking up

>> No.68518250

>>68518139
No one cares about Selen either, she was one of the most hated vtubers on this board thanks to Selenfag

>> No.68518282

>>68518232
Won't happen. Riku owns nearly half the company. Unless almost every investor revolts against him or he actually does something criminal, he will stay CEO

>> No.68518308

>>68518250
Lol
Spend less time on 4chan

>> No.68518312

>>68515522
I don't even like Selen, but god damn, that's such a petty and arrogant thing to say in a public statement

>> No.68518323

>>68518250
>source: your ass

>> No.68518647

>>68518308
>>68518323
dragoons literally got chased out of /NijiEN/ because everyone was tired of Selen's menhera ass
ohhh let me commission stuff and pass it off as my hard work ohhhh let me get mad for dumb reasons
also her holofag-lite fanbase was annoying

>> No.68518811

>>68518647
>got chased out of /NijiEN/
What is the downside ?

>> No.68518831

>>68518647
So again, spend less time on 4chan

>> No.68518896
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>>68515522

>> No.68518924

>>68518647
Have you considered that, perhaps, being chased out of the Nijiniggers' den is a good thing?
>>68518250
This board doesn't represent public perception in the slightest.

>> No.68518934

>>68518647
Dragoons left /NijiEN/ because that place is a trash heap filled with "women" who can't stop creaming themselves over whatever manmeat is streaming at the time. It's no wonder that discussing a popular female streamer wasn't welcome there. There's a reason /nenmen/ exists.

>> No.68519026

>>68515522
In this case, it's no win.
The anxiety amongst investors is high, so Niji have to reassure them but as people intuitively reason, it also has a paradoxical effect, yet at the same time Niji can't say nothing because either their board room will get jitters or investors would sell/push for a statement anyway.

Moving quickly and denying Selen's financial impact was actually the right thing to do because all alternative roads are worse.

>> No.68519040

>>68515522
>Sneedjisanji
>thinking
kek good one anon

>> No.68519201

>>68518139
It's been really funny seeing people careen wildly between 'everyone will always hate zaion for something that happened a year ago' and 'everyone will forget about this and nijisanji will be back to business as usual within a week'

>> No.68519225

>>68515522
>what were they thinking
exactly what they wrote

>> No.68519511

>>68519026
The right thing to do was what Selen wanted which was a neutral graduation with no shit flinging, just say they agreed to part ways, do a goodbye stream and call it there. If they'd've done that people would speculate but this drama shit storm wouldn't have happened

>> No.68519535

>>68515566
It would "blow over" way easier and faster if they didn't put out an annoucement saying "Yes, our livers are negligble, we only care for the bottom line" during a sensitve moment.

>> No.68519559

>>68515522
>What the fuck was nijisanji thinking
Thinking?

>> No.68519633

>>68515522
>I could just let her graduate peacefully and no one needs to know any dirt
>but naaah, I'll act big bad tough asian business man instead, that sure will be good for the companie's image

>> No.68519670

>>68517002
BASED BASED BASED

>> No.68519688

Ten bucks says Niji management will whip up some statement or tweet telling people to stop harassing their talent but not actually handle the internal bullying going on.

>> No.68519873

>>68519633
Wasn't EN management run by Indians?

>> No.68519906

>>68519688
The only reply to a statement like that is simply
>no u

>> No.68519992

That's how stupid they are
A self-harming idiot who lacks humanity

>> No.68520097

>>68515522
Anon, I'm sorry to say, but the EN branch IS negligible. Especially if this means that they cut the branch that gave them loss last year.

>> No.68520169

>>68515522
This is why you should be extra careful when hiring westoid girls. A lot of them are mentally ill and can be a danger to your company's reputation.

>> No.68520183

>>68515734
Hyte and that other company still refunded all niji orders. Artists have cancelled the commissions they were doing for niji, not like they would have gotten paid anyways lol. The damage is only getting started.

>> No.68520283

>>68515734
Nah, the confirmation by her on stream to 127k people made them more emboldened to Boycott them now, especially sponsors at least on the EN side

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>> No.68520503

>>68518090
It was a two-sigma move based on 20 day volatility.

>> No.68521976

>>68515522
You could legit replace nijisanji's entire pr team with a literal pack of poo flinging monkeys and somehow be better off

>> No.68523112

>>68516734
>Most of the people mad at them are nobodies.
Their market is nobodies, anon. This clout psychosis has poisoned your mind. There's nothing more alarming to a business than a groundswell of ordinary consumers disavowing your brand without an apparent thought leader guiding them. It means you didn't alienate a few people, you alienated a broad plurality of your consumer base whose common ground are simply that they were customers and have a moral compass.

>> No.68523184

>>68519511
Yeah but we're already past that point.

>> No.68523237

>>68517322
Damn, I feel smarter when I compare myself to you

>> No.68523272

>>68517489
The company sharted itself so badly they needed to bring out the emergency toilet paper and wipe their asses with it

>> No.68523355

>>68516688
Unironically they won't be. Company is stagnating in Japan which is why they're expanding. They need to expand or stocks will stop going up and shareholders won't be happy.

>> No.68523378

>>68515522
They knew their public relations abilities were in doubt, so they decided to make sure everyone knew their investor relations team was braindead too

>> No.68523457

>>68523355
Yeah this
Some anons will be triggered by what I will say but Nijisanji's more popular over there as normies are their target market, compared to hololive with a more dedicated otaku fanbase
There's not much room for Nijisanji to expand in Japan

>> No.68524829

>>68523457
>Nijisanji's more popular over there as normies are their target market
2019 was 5 years ago. It's time to let go.

>> No.68525251

>>68515582
Yeah and the investors are also shitting on them, it has become a new meme kek.

>> No.68525755

>>68519201
This. Now that you mention it, the Niji fanbase really is starting to look like a fascist group:
>The enemy is both weak and strong (Sayu)
>Don't believe the media, don't go looking for the truth (Enna)
>Everyone who's not a fan of Niji is a subhuman indog (Nijisisters)
I don't remember what the other points are

>> No.68525942

What exactly is this document? What is the original source? Is it addressed to anyone specific? Only seen caps posted here

>> No.68526589

>>68517175
this is the only time they've released something like this, right? they didn't do it for the other terminations or graduations afaik.

>> No.68527273

>>68516688
even JP is starting to form visible cracks
see: Chii-chan

>> No.68527385

>>68515522
Damn I feel so bad for Selen.
At least she's free.

>> No.68527406

>>68525942
It's a financial document released as a standalone document. Among the likes of other documents such as their quarterly earnings.

>> No.68527432

>>68515522
They aren't thinking shit. Their whole comms is a manchild being petty through a thin semblance of red tape and official looking documents

>> No.68527494

>was bullied by all her colleagues.
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with this company.

>> No.68527783

>>68515522
HOld the fuck on, is this the entire document?
There should be more, right? more reasons as to why it is negligible?

>> No.68527919

>>68525942
>>68527783
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/ir
That's the entire document. Yes, they actually did that.

>> No.68528116

>>68527919
That is fucking unreal, this is actually worse than not putting out a statement at all.
They just basically NUH UH'd and refused to elaborated like a child.

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>>68527919

>> No.68528555

>>68518250
Not even remotely true. Get some perspective before putting your foot in your mouth again.

>> No.68528652

>>68515522
>none of our livers are worth anything, have a nice day
i wonder how the remaining livers feel seeing shit like this? especially when selen was bigger than all of them lol

>> No.68528843

>>68528652
Intimidated into compliance, like they're supposed to.
Why do you think suspensions and terminations with full archive wipe exist? Do what we say or else.

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>>68515522
This is what they were thinking.

>> No.68529015

Moral of the story: don't hire crazies.

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>>68515522

>> No.68529141

>>68528961
kino

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Look at the other documents it's listed beside
this is too rich

>> No.68529304

>>68515734
because she didn’t drop le epic hitlist everyone was waiting for

>> No.68529380

>>68529015
Yeah whoever hired their managers really fucked up

>> No.68529475

Immediate damage may not be obvious as the long term damage will be. NijiEN is essentially over. No chuuba regardless of size or quality will ever want to get involved in that disaster because it's a poisoned pit of vipers that can literally kill you. NijiEN can and will only go downhill from here (and "here" was already a shitty position for the corpo) and it simply won't matter in the West anymore. More than that, their reputation will spread far and wide and it's atrocious. This is the blackest of black companies and nobody sane will want or should have anything to do with it. Any girl worth her salt and with an ounce of common sense should be eyeing the exit bigtime, and the sooner she leaves the better. The more time passes the more entangled her reputation will become with that of Nijisanji.

Nijisanji is the blackest vtuber corpo in the world. There simply is no contest and if there's anyone sane left in that ratthole it's time to GTFO as quick as possible, even if it means taking instant financial damage. It's THAT bad. The more time passes the worse it'll reflect on chuubas who stick with them.

>> No.68529505

>>68515522
Where are the rest of the document?

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>>68528961
>and she said her dick was THIS BIG
I imagine her holding her hands to her neck at that point to indicate her penis size.

>> No.68529605

>>68515522
>being THIS petty as a major company
LMFAO imagine if Hololive did this, that is ridiculous. That's what an insecure teenager would write when he wants to look like he's totally not mad

>> No.68529610

>>68529475
meds

>> No.68529631

>>68529505
It only exists in the dreams of the most schizoy schizos

>> No.68529667

>>68517322
What do you think investors look at when deciding in which company to invest?

>> No.68529749

>>68527919
>>68528116
Somehow I'm not surprised anymore how people like Enna got into and strived in nijisanji

>> No.68529756

>>68516638
I'd rather support a black company than a pity-baiting menhera skank any day. At least one of them is honest about how terrible they are.

>> No.68529810

>>68529631
>>68527919

>> No.68529842

>>68529610
Either refute my arguments by presenting a counter-argument in favor of Nijisanji and their relationship with their talents or take your shitty meme and cry in the corner. This isn't TikTok. I'll spare you the effort though:

I know you can't. There is no argument in favor of Nijisanji. The company simply needs to be cut off from the EN vtuber sphere by us, the audience. It's morally abhorrent to support them.

>> No.68529874

>>68515522
intern ordered 200 backs of 14 copypaper rather than 20
might as well use that shit eh?

>> No.68529981

>>68529302
No wonder stockholders panicked

>> No.68530019

>>68528961
>Not rolling the R's for the last termination
One job!

>> No.68530034

>>68528652
This, wtf is anyone of them supposed to think now? That they can literally just be tossed away like trash at any moment and the company will openly tell everyone that you don't matter.
I'm not a legal expert but I wonder if this borders on defamation

>> No.68530041

>>68518250
Did you not see the 127k people watching her yesterday and the multiple boards (mostly positive) made about her?
Try again enna.

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>>68515522

>> No.68530202

>>68515522
Gura deflection thread

>> No.68530240

>>68528652
I hope more nijis graduate
(Please rosemi get away from this black company)

>> No.68530250

>>68528652
Fulgur...

>> No.68530264

>>68528116
I've said it multiple time, but nijisanji has somehow managed to hire a PR department that would unironically be improved if the entire department was replaced by a troop of howling monkeys

>> No.68530330

>>68529475
This is the modern day gamebu

>> No.68530390

>>68528652
I would unironically kill myself

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>>68515582
Okay, here's what some of those investors are thinking then.
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/104/843
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/104/870 These two are from a guy whose been in the trade for decades and posting verifiably for at least 10 years saying
>this is the worst IR I've ever fucking seen in my life
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/104/1080 This one is mocking the statement and Anycolor's inability to realistically pay their dues (VERY big point)
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/104/1066 This one is mocking them for thinking an IR should be used as PR.
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/104/842 This one extends beyond just Selen/EN and questions the entire company on the fact that Chihiro re-debuted in LESS THAN A DAY
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/104/871
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/104/863 These two are pointing out the lack of payment that Selen herself had to issue and the second is explicitly clarifying the situation

https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/104/995 This one is my personal favorite. It basically says
>So the talents are just another part of the machine?
>But with every other company they're the only important part of the company.
>Was it really okay with Anycolor to say this in the IR?
You can keep scrolling through the thread as these are just some I found the other day and only scratch the surface.

Safe to say, the Financial Report alone is one that'll be written down in the books, let alone everything else surrounding it.

>> No.68530561

>>68515582
As an investors this document would make me bail harder than the Titanic

>> No.68530567

>>68518896
KINO

>> No.68530572

Remember anons. If a company has to put out a statement to investors saying that everything is fine, EVERYTHING IS MOST CERTAINLY NOT FINE.

>> No.68530694

>>68529667
They at least look at 6m charts for INVESTING, not 5d like a fuckass trader

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>> No.68530919

>>68530493
holy fucking shit lmao, they are so fucking dead bwahahahaha

>> No.68531304

>>68530876
KEK

>> No.68531346

>>68530493
Slowly it starts.

>> No.68531543

>>68529475
counterargument: Wactor

>> No.68531547

>>68530493
>>68531346
All they really needed was for someone to point out Doki's tweets, translate news related to the HYTE collab cancellation and Doki's recent stream to have doubts about their investments

>> No.68531642

>>68530493
The Chihiro thing alone speaks far more than anything else.
How the fuck does someone quit, re-debut, have their old co-workers announce the redebut on their twitters, and do this all in a day without anyone seeing a single issue?

>> No.68531663

>>68529756
>At least one of them is honest about how terrible they are.
Except they aren't? They're claiming everything's a-ok and that they're blameless.

>> No.68531921

>>68531543
You know wactor is dead right?

>> No.68532029

>>68515734
I really hope that the EA rep that reached out directly to Doki ends up losing all EA perms for Nijisanji, that would be funny as fuck.

>> No.68532063

The yacht is still afloat. What should we do?

>> No.68532277

>>68515522
Wait that's the actual document? That blank space wasn't just omitted or something? Hory sheet

>> No.68532376

>>68518232
Riku owns 43.something percent of shares. It would have to be shareholders unanimously voting him out.

>> No.68532434

>>68532277
Yes
Yes it is

>> No.68532450

>>68532277
Yeah, totally not an emotional decision whatsoever

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>>68515522
Thinking?

>> No.68532597

>>68532277
Yes. They're actually this stupid.

If you follow this link, and click on the first item under 2024
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/ir/news
it will take you to this:
https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material1/223224/00.pdf

>> No.68532962

>>68531921
They just rebranded. And that doesn't change the fact that they've been surviving for years and somehow even managed to debut new members while being blacker than Niji

>> No.68533058

>>68532029
Imagine them outright blacklisting kurosanji for the PR boost among gamers instead of catering to homos who don't play their games.

>> No.68533265

>crazy girl acts crazy and you're forced to terminate her
>this is somehow your fault and now unhinged twitter users are trying to kill your company
feelsbadman.jpg

>> No.68533315

>>68533265
This is peak NDFposting

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>>68533315
No, this is peak ndf posting

>> No.68533356

>>68533265
They were too stingy to pay 200k for her art commissions. Sad.
By the standard of Xwitter users they aren't allowed to terminate anyone. I even saw someone defending Gundou.

>> No.68533386

>>68533265
>blame every other vtuber for it
Selen is lucky she has a fat ass and can the world in arms over faking suicide

>> No.68533499

>>68531921
They've respawned twice already

>> No.68533628

>>68533265
>>68533356
>>68533386
The ndf approves of this post

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>>68515582

>> No.68535610

>>68530876
As a racing layman, how disastrous was this?

>> No.68535918

>>68532063
As usual, do nothing. Let it leak and sink on its own.

>> No.68536285
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Coming soon.

>> No.68536389

>>68536285
Why the 26th?

>> No.68536697

>>68536389
One month prior notice of contract termination, can save legal troubles depending on which country each of them resides in.

>> No.68536914

>>68536389
They need some time to sell out leftover Selen keychains and cupholders, please understand.

>> No.68537212

>>68516688
The stock has been in an utterly stagnant 3000-4000 yen hole ever since it's IPO (disregarding a massive spike in the beginning that quickly died off). It's actually been depreciating in value slowly because of inflation. If they don't expand in a meaningful way and show that they can maintain a presence overseas they are completely fucked.

>> No.68537451

>>68515522
I actually believe them when they say the financial impact is negligible because of the costs associated with maintaining EN, but the damage to the brand and more importantly the growth is not. The JP market is already saturated, so investors seeking growth are particularly interested in the EN branch.

>> No.68538262

>>68535610
total disaster

>> No.68538331

>>68517002
>he's not only right but he's based as well
BASED BASED BASED

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