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HOLY FUCKING SHIT

>> No.68473997

That's negligible impact on NijiEN reputation btw. I hope Riku chokes on his silver play button.

>> No.68474133

>>68473713
all me

>> No.68474187

People are watching for drama. Since she’s saving it until the end I stopped watching.

>> No.68474231

>>68473713

I wonder how hard Enna and Millie are seething right now?

A viewer count they will never get close to.

>> No.68474240

>>68473713
go back to your cage, numbermonkey.

>> No.68474293

NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>> No.68474298

>>68473713
SINK THE YACHT

RAISE THE BIRD

>> No.68474350

>negligible impact

>> No.68474388

>>68474231
Post on reddit too Anon.

>> No.68474420

>>68474240
Go back to Riku nijicocksucker

>> No.68474442

>>68473713
people are such cucks for a sob story, people get fired every damn day

>> No.68474441

>male therapist
>male manager

Are Bark Knights ok?

>> No.68474448

She got too many inquiries that google thought she was a bot. Also American manager. Instead of Manager-san call him Manager Cowboy.

>> No.68474494

>>68473713
It’ll crash. She’ll be a 2view by next month.

>> No.68474655

>>68473713
she'll be lucky to get a third of that once the drama dies off, if they didn't make the stupid meme statement they could have sued her for damages.

>> No.68474710

>>68474494
That's my fear. Sad, but probably true. Maybe a 3view

>> No.68474720

>>68474187
Oh no, she lost your one view out of >120k. Anyways.
>>68474494
Nijicope hasn't ever been more fitting in any post on this board ever, holy shit

>> No.68474749

Look at Funny Numbers

>> No.68474818

>>68474655
An indie getting mid 3 view status earns enough to live streaming. Niji failed.

>> No.68474845

what numbers did she get as selen?

>> No.68474900

>>68473713
it is over for Nijisisters

>> No.68474904

>>68474240
>>68474442
>>68474494
suck my greasy eight inch mexican cock with your tight chinese mouths, nijisisters

>> No.68474953

>>68473713
GURAKILLER
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>> No.68474984

>>68473713
If all it takes to be this popular is enduring years of workplace abuse culminating in an attempt to off yourself then getting fired, why doesn't everyone do it

>> No.68474992

CAN IT GET MUCH HIGHER!?

>> No.68475019

>>68474441
>getting dicked down by mr man after an apex session

>> No.68475075

>>68473713
HO HA HO HA HA ME EXICTED ME NUMBER MONKEY

>> No.68475088

>>68474845
3 to 4k on average, she was the top performer of EN in december.

>> No.68475150

>>68473713
Is she going to show receipts or is it going to be more vague saviorfag bait and unsupported statements?

>> No.68475157

That shocked expression where she doesn't have to pay out of pocket anymore. Mom shocked she made zero profits last year!

>> No.68475160

>>68475019
better than getting dicked down by niji and told to off yourself by coworkers

>> No.68475167

Damn her personality matches this old model way better holy shit

>> No.68475183

>>68474720
You can fellate the downfall of Niji all you want but you know I’m right. This board is always so quick to chase drama but ignore reality. This shit has happened before and the outcome is always the same. Fame never lasts.

>> No.68475269
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68475269

>mom talked shit to her because she made zero profit off niji last year

>> No.68475276
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>>68474494
I wouldn't be surprise if she pull Deltaya numbers, and that's fine. As long as her paypigs follow her, she'll be good especially since she'll be getting a majority of the cut of the money sent to her. That's already a huge win, being able to get more than 2%.

>> No.68475291

>>68474448
>>68473713
Google is going to crash her analytics in a week. Huge number to extremely small number overnight gets you put on a short list for being untrustworthy.

>> No.68475319

>>68474984
It's for severe mentally ill method.

>> No.68475326

>>68474984
>popular
As much as I hate to admit it, around 95% of that are dramafags who are gonna leave once this all blows over

>> No.68475330

>You don't have to pay out of your own pocket anymore
did they have her pay for her shit out of pocket?
what the fuck

>> No.68475339

>>68475167
I'm already accustomed to it desu

>> No.68475396

0 PROFIT TAX YEAR 2023
200K SPENDING
WHAT A RETARD

>> No.68475427

>200k
200k
>200k
200k
>200k

>> No.68475430

TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARY DOOS

>> No.68475444

>>68474442
Fuck off Millie

>> No.68475469

200k dollars what the actual fuck

>> No.68475481

She spent 200k last year and made no profit! My god. Just imagine what the others are doing in Niji who are performing lesser or spending money on projects. That's just crazy to see.

>> No.68475490

Doki spent $200,000 for her Niji projects which is about what she made off Niji leading her mom to look at her financial report and scold her for not making any profits.

>> No.68475530

>>68474992
Buy some bots.

>> No.68475546

>>68475396
shoulda bought chainlink (ticker: LINK)

>> No.68475550

>>68475427
Bruuuuuh, top streamer. 0 profit. Top tier kuro company.

>> No.68475562

>>68473713
JESUS CHRIST THEY MADE HER PAY THAT MUCH?!

>> No.68475706

>I MADE 0 PROFIT LAST YEAR
IMAGINE BEING A KUROSANJI ORGAN

>> No.68475718

I'm not one to make these kind of petty posts but I'm bored and feel like saying it, nijisanji EN fans are 100% the worst vtubing fanbase I have ever seen, there's an insane amount of normies and twitter drama sisters that I couldn't have ever predicted, I wouldn't want to ever meet any of them. I have nothing else to say, that's their only quality I can think of.

>> No.68475716

>>68475326
Still at least 7k left. That's pretty good

>> No.68475744

Honestly I would kill myself too if I heard that

>> No.68475776

>>68473713
>I made 0 profit last year
The fire rises

>> No.68475792

>spending 200k of your personal money on events that will benefit the company
What kind of mental illness is this?

>> No.68475866

>>68475490
Mom is right, that's retarded.

>> No.68475927

>>68474494
Lol yeah sure... She got 328k subs in less than 24 hours its hard to see a 2 view even a 3 view from her. Maybe she wont have more than corpos but she will be fine. Only hater will keep wishing for her to fail.

>> No.68475968
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68475968

>These yabs have taken a lot of time and money...But it was well worth it considering the results.

>> No.68475983

>>68475330
>manager told her she doesn't have to pay out of her own pocket anymore
>even though she's an indie now
But who is funding her?

>> No.68475991

>"I made zero profit last year"
>she SAID
SHOW FUCKING PROOF INSTEAD OF STIRRING MORE DRAMA

>> No.68475994

>>68475792
>don't know better
>company keeps gaslighting you into thinking its normal
Peak entertainment industry.

>> No.68476017

Addicted to entertaining. She's a content machine.

>> No.68476021

>>68475427
Jfc, is being a Niji talent like being an indentured servant?

>> No.68476057

>>68475718
Get off in the 4chan too.

>> No.68476082

>>68475991
doi you want her to show bank statements or something

>> No.68476081

>>68475983
She's getting sponsorships now.

>> No.68476091

>>68475991
Keep seething, Enna.

>> No.68476102

>>68475326
Can confirm
>t. Dramafag

>> No.68476108

>>68475792
protip: it's a lie, she's exaggerating, or it's just pet projects she's done individually for herself that turned no profit

>> No.68476120

200K? WHAT THE FUCK?
AINT NO WAY

>> No.68476125

>>68475983
>what are sponsors?

>> No.68476140

>>68474818
That’s on twitch not YouTube and even then that’s not complete accurate. That was years ago when it was 70/30, ad rev was much higher, and people rained subs. On YouTube a mid 3 view will make less than a teacher even if they stream crazy hours. They could live off it if they’re frugal

>> No.68476148

>>68475983
Well she just said that EA and Apex contacted her apparently, plus other sponsorships presumably.

>> No.68476158

>>68474818
she ain't "indie" though, she's a fired has-been idol who has wrapped her rule-breaking into some cancel culture shit

>> No.68476163

Apex staff member sending message of support? Probably the nicest thing Apex has done. Now make the game better.

>> No.68476168

>negligible impact

>> No.68476190

>>68475983
Her sponsor. They already got one for her

>> No.68476219

>>68475994
5k-10k I can get but if you keep repeatedly getting ghosted by your company on the payment issue, then you're the dumbass for sinking 6 figures into that shithole.

>> No.68476230

>she was paid 200k in a year
nijisanji doesnt pay that badly after all

>> No.68476274

>>68475983
she's getting so many sponsors her email got blocked, anon

>> No.68476278

>one of the most successful NijiEN members only makes $200k in a year
Isn't that kinda miniscule? Are the lower tier Nijis even making a livable wage?

>> No.68476281

Who here has an Oshi that would spend 200k on them?

>> No.68476308

>>68475983
Sponsors. Its what you have a fucking manager for.
>want to do tournament in apex
>contact the apex team, and a few classic esports sponsors like redbul and have it covered by them
>want new pc
>get into contact with a PC company to sponsor you
Its literally what a company is supposed to be doing for you... the fuck else are they good for otherwise?

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>>68475792
It isn't mental illness, it is individuals and companies without morals milking the most money they can out of people who are driven by passion rather than profits.

>> No.68476331

>BAD AT HANDLING MONEY
NGMI

>> No.68476363

>>68474441
>Are Bark Knights ok?
She's not a holo pretending guys don't exist, we're fine.

>> No.68476375

It's ok, Doki wont have to pay rent when she is living with me so she can do all the project she wants.

>> No.68476388

>>68476158
Nijiseethe

>> No.68476400

>>68476230
Great takeaway, NDF-kun.

>> No.68476420

>>68476148
Dude why wouldn't EA sponsor a fucking vtuber tournament.

How stupid are these fucking jap companies. That shit is a massive advertising and there is so much budget for that bullshit.

>> No.68476442

>>68476230
>what is debt

>> No.68476445

>>68476308
They need their yachts

>> No.68476454

>>68475792
To be honest, I know a lot of corpodrones who do the similar shit, but in office setting, not in entertainment industry.
Usually the types who suck off corporate dick on LinkedIn.

No wonder she went postal DESU.

>> No.68476463

>>68474442
It's not that she got fired. It's that she worked for a toxic ass company that treated her like disposable trash. People relating to that is why this is happening.

>> No.68476464

>>68473713
If this is true, then niji is fucked.
They could lose their business license in Canada.

>> No.68476492

>>68475183
Thats not ignoring reality.
Thinking someone's viewers are going to fall of by a factor of TEN FUCKING THOUSAND into a 2view in 30 days, even as an exaggeration, is

>> No.68476503

>>68476021
>servant
>slave
ftfy

>> No.68476511

>>68476082
YES, because shit like this can be grounds to a lawsuit! What is wrong with you saviorfags?! Next she's going to say she had the entire kurosanji management run a train on her against her will. So what, are you going to belive it without question too?!

>> No.68476600

Yeah numbers are cool and all
But why is her mouth like that

>> No.68476627

>>68476511
>shit like this can be grounds for a lawsuit

Lmao

No it can't you fucking nigger. Who is going to sue her. For what? Lmao. Retarded fucking moron. Kill yourself.

>> No.68476669

>>68476158
she'll make more money today than you'll make in your entire life lolololol

>> No.68476690

>>68475792
She thinks that the excess food she eats while the project was in production counts as part of the expense

>> No.68476694

>>68476400
bruh I'm paid 6k usd a year in my shithole country.
the girl was swimming in money and didn't know how to manage it.

>> No.68476711

>>68476081
>>68476125
>>68476148
>>68476190
>>68476274
>>68476308
Yeah, I get it, but that's still money that goes into her pocket, though, isn't it? I guess I'm just being unnecessarily pedantic with what is and isn't "her pocket".

>> No.68476860

>>68476219
More like, the company probably tells them that they can only cover xyz costs. For example part of the live 3d model only partial cover for music recording, and anything extra ordered from out of house talent can't be paid by the company and is on the idols. At least that is my bet. So as long as they want to do varied projects, the talents will feel forced to cover the costs themselves, or go trough years of red tape in the company just to get a NO.

>> No.68476865

>>68476511
>are you going to belive it without question too
That sounds hot so I choose to believe it.

>> No.68476935

>>68476454
Yeah, there are corpo drones who come in on weekends, spending their own money on company's trips and parties, I've been that kind of drones. But no sane person fucking spend over $100,000 USD/CND into benefitting the company without getting anything back. That's fucking grounds for lawsuit.

>> No.68476941

>>68475991
>>68475983
>>68475776
>>68475706
>>68476120
>>68476125
>>68475792
Ok I’m not watching but she’s lying or none of you can speak English. Where the fuck would she get $200k to spend and still have money to pay bills and live life if she wasn’t making any money.

>> No.68476948

>>68476711
think of how when mr beast gets like a 250k sponsor to feed african kids and build wells.
it doesn't technically come out of his pocket.

>> No.68476993 [DELETED] 

>Mumei had to sit in Selen's discord chat just to watch her play single-player games
She's a way better friend than I am damn.

>> No.68477055

>>68476627
For defamation, for starters, retard. She should have started this stream with a folder full of receipts ready to show to the whole world. She had several days to prepare for this, and THIS is what she does?

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>>68475983
The secondary sponsorships should be online soon. It's currently undergoing preparations and should be operational within six months. My people will continue to report on its progress.

>> No.68477117

>>68476993
It's okay, Mumei likes to watch.

>> No.68477139

>>68476694
I think you’re missing the point here, but alright. Best of luck.

>> No.68477172

>>68476941
Profit = revenue - expenses
Which shithole country did you get your education from, dipshit?

>> No.68477179

>>68476278
this is after niji & youtube's cut anon

>> No.68477189

>>68476993
I can't believe she had to abandon all the hoomans just to backseat Doki so she wouldn't fucking lose it

>> No.68477195

First stream day after tomorrow. Next week we get a schedule.

>> No.68477204

>>68476941
>I'm not watching but you must be wrong
She made enough to break even retard

>> No.68477213

Every single person involved with the vtuber community is watching this stream. Those view counts are absolutely out of this world.

>> No.68477215

>>68475792
It can't be possible, and if it is, she is the idiot, imagine the situation the others would be in if their earnings were 0.

>> No.68477216

>>68476993
>I make some of my friends do this with me
I appreciate them so much more now that I'm reflecting

>> No.68477252

>>68476711
you're fucking retarded. do you know what embezzling means you stupid fucking retard?

>> No.68477266

>>68473713
its over for nijisanji
https://files.catbox.moe/0vh63r.mp4

>> No.68477275

>>68476941
She clearly lives with her parents if her mom is coming up to her and lecturing her about her finances.

>> No.68477280

negligible btw

>> No.68477322

>>68476941
From her SCs, ad rev, and membership money?

I imagine a good bit of the reason she didn’t make a profit was the 15k project at the end as well as other projects that she had already started that had 0 return.

>> No.68477378

>>68477055
You are unironically retarded and have absolutely no idea what a defamation lawsuit is about or how law works.
NDF soldiers experiencing another level of brainrot

>> No.68477400

>>68475481
you honestly cannot be ambitious at niji. just get by with bare minimum of assets just to make profit

>> No.68477401

>>68476993
I'm the opposite and I wanna do shit by myself but damn that is a pretty good friend.

>> No.68477408

>>68477055
Who did she defame there you fucking retard.

Stop playing lawyer on the internet and neck yourself.

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>>68473713
Are you really surprised? Niji created the Perfect Storm for themselves and the Perfect Return for Doki.
>Kept people in the dark about Selen causing questions to keep mounting up
>Eventually the questions keep mounting till all the vtuber sphere, not just NijiEN, are curious
>Questions continue to mount as more and more indies and industry insiders ask questions
>Questions STILL grow as this whole debacle leaks into the mainstream, oops now the whole situation is in the general public
>Statement of termination is released and confirmation of events occurred
>Made Selen a martyr, a victim of bullying
>Ex-Niji members come to her support further solidifying her position as the victim
>rrats have grown wings and everyone is curious
>Her attempted suicide is just icing on the cake for concernfagging
Doki is the ultimate victim; backstabbed by her corpo and coworkers, falling to rock bottom, then gaining the strength to stand with her head up high. Niji could not have created a more perfect scenario for Dokibird if they tried.

>> No.68477444

so where's the drama?
i thought she's gonna do the finisher move

>> No.68477461

>>68476941
She made over 200k retard, she just also happened to spend 200k resulting in no profit after going over the rest of her expenses. Christ you might just be retarded.

>> No.68477488

>>68473713
Twitter trannies checking out the current drama. How new are you

>> No.68477490

>>68477055
god you're stupid

>> No.68477504

>>68477266
why does that sound like parrot

>> No.68477512

>>68477378
>says a simp cuck who takes any word of his queen as gospel

>> No.68477529

>>68476941
I don't know man. Even Bae paid for her own projects. This bitch is MEH.

>> No.68477537

>>68473713
Will she join Holo in a way that Suisei did?

>> No.68477582
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68477582

>>68476993
Mooms a real one. I hope they can collab soon

>> No.68477594

>>68476941
Either part of that 200k is also with her expenses or she used her savings.

>> No.68477627

>>68476627
For libel, it's her own pet projects she spent money on that Niji doesn't have to pay for. She's making it like Niji has to pay this and that which is untrue. Niji is a black company, but she doesn't need to make up shit.

>> No.68477630

YOU ARE MY SPEEEEEEECIAL.

>> No.68477650

Negligible.

>> No.68477673

>>68475276
I don't know if old school niji paypigs can survive without 98% of their money going to riku though...

>> No.68477688

>>68476993
Common W my oshi

>> No.68477706

>>68477055
>>68477512
Are you single or something? 'Cause you really seem like you need your back blown out from the attention seeking you're doing.

>> No.68477713

>>68477537
Do you really think she needs the support of a company?

>> No.68477726

>>68477444
Said she's saving talking about it for the end. Dunno if it'll be actual drama or not, but we'll see.

>> No.68477774

>>68476669
which will be paid back in damages and she'll be on the street by 2030

>> No.68477786
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68477786

Is Riku shitting himself?

>> No.68477779

This voice not coming out of a purple dragon is weird.

>> No.68477816

damn this is making me wish i was a girl with bpd
look at all the money already pouring in

>> No.68477818

>>68477627
She didn't say any of that all she said was she paid 200k on projects. She said nothing about Niji had to pay for it.

You're actually retarded. Its not libel you stupid nigger. kill yourself kill yourself kill yourself

>> No.68477821

>>68477713
Yes.

>> No.68477827

200k +niji tax + youtube tax = 350k or more

>> No.68477833

>>68477512
At least I'm not LARPing as the world's most incompetent lawyer online

>> No.68477835

>>68474494
LOL no.

>> No.68477854

>>68477594
She's saying she was in the red, basically all of her niji income spent plus -$200 out of pocket. So it's not just $200k, it's way more than that.

>> No.68477880

SKIBIDI TOILET

>> No.68477895

>>68477537
That'd be great IMO, but chances are super super slim.

>> No.68477978

>>68476219
Don't know about Niji, but for example, in IT industry, it might come that company covers expenses for you only partly (certifications, work from home, hardware) and if you want to do over limit set up by corporate, you either wager a chance that bureaucrats at corporate spin the wheels and made exception or consider something (which make take months), or you cover the remainder yourself.

And then it depends on how scummy the company really is about it. Since, basically, projects in entertainment industry are more or less investment, Niji pulling off shit like they did with Pomu and Saren might really put a dent, and, depending on what their contract states in regards to termination (whether they need to pay company expenses if they walk out prematurely) make the "just leave bro" even more non-feasible financially.

>> No.68477980

>>68477627
>She's making it like Niji has to pay this and that which is untrue
NDF trying to twist facts again. She is literally talking how she spent too much money on commissions. But nah NDF got to muddy the waters.

>> No.68477996

>>68477779
The smugness makes it better imo

>> No.68478016

>>68475991
>SHOW FUCKING PROOF INSTEAD OF STIRRING MORE DRAMA
What are you exactly expecting to happen here? Either you believe her or you don't, she's not going to start showing fucking receipts. If you think she's lying then ignore it.

>> No.68478030

>>68477537
pommer.........

>> No.68478128

>>68476993
I had a girlfriend in high school who did this. She liked the games but didn't want to play.

>> No.68478137

Now it makes sense why they wanted Niji to pay the hospital bills.

>> No.68478140

>>68477627
No, that is not something you can get sued for. It is not libel to say how much you made vs spent in a year.

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68478164

>>68473713
quite a return

>> No.68478240

>>68476627
it's a case of literal she said he said, the dumb cunt hasn't proven anything and has without a doubt ruined the company's image, especially when they are likely well within their right to fire somebody who broke their terms and was warned

>> No.68478249

>>68478016
>If she's lying ignore it.
???

>> No.68478291

>>68477996
Needs to be smugger.

>> No.68478292

>>68478016
I don't think she's lying or not. I don't know if she's lying or not. But she's made some big statements and I'd like to see her back them up instead of baiting saviorfags and dramaniggers.

>> No.68478301

>>68476278
200k is minuscule??? Are vtubers your first time seeing a streamer? Her channel would not make that in ad rev, she definitely didn’t make that in supers or members. To give you some perspective if you use schizo 2% metrics her channel made $10 million in revenue in one year. With non schizo numbers it’s still somewhere around $600-800k in revenue. The top 20 holos only brought in $3-6 million in revenue for the company. That means Selen would be bringing niji somewhere in the ball park of an upper mid tier holo. That’s not possible with her analytics

>> No.68478313

>>68477537
sounds like she has a good manager, no reason to really unless she wants to

>> No.68478322

>>68478030
Bring her to holo too. She can be healed.

>> No.68478385

What's the lore behind Doki being the tomato thing?

>> No.68478442

>>68478240
nigger nothing she has said on this stream is defamation you fucking mongoloid insect.

>> No.68478463

>>68473713
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
THAT'S A HOLOLIVE DEBUT NUMBERS

>> No.68478492

>>68477786
In anger, certainly. I'm willing to bet he's got that kind of personality

>> No.68478501

>>68478292
>instead of baiting saviorfags and dramaniggers.
That's their job, they wouldn't get any fans or donos otherwise.

>> No.68478592

>>68478240
Ah yes, she maliciously ruined the poor, innocent company's image by... attempting suicide from awful working environment and getting fired

Do you hear yourself?

>> No.68478636
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NDF is mindbroken, defamation my fucking ass

>> No.68478648

Are mods nijifaggots, why are they refused to pin these threads

>> No.68478714

>>68478592
She maliciously ruined the company's image by getting fired and saying 'I got bullied' which they confirmed in the statement in which they fired her.

And then furthered it by saying 'I spent 200k on proejcts lol'

>> No.68478750

New skin suit but not any time soon. More info time. Birthday talk. It's actually July 4th. The most American birthday for a Canadian. She didn't realize shift does that? She was a streamer before, right? Yeah, I would think mr. man's email is getting flooded right now.

One weird DM? Entertaining and got funnier as it went on. It's the "You live in Canada" one.

>> No.68478778

A FUCKIGN LEAF

>> No.68478779

>>68476935
>But no sane person fucking spend over $100,000 USD/CND into benefitting the company without getting anything back.

I mean, didn't she just lost 15k on that cover song that Niji pulled the plug on before she tried to an hero? Entertainment/Creative industry is kind of expensive to put up projects in (I considered doing something creative like indie games/animation/music decade ago, as a hobby, but threw away the idea because it was too big of financial risk to handle with small reward)

>> No.68478798

>>68474494
Litterally imposible
All the sponsors that reach out to her get a small PR boost and people calling them based
So at least for a while she'll have big backing for big streams.
Maybe in a year if the nigger sanji lawsuits and nijiggers harassment escalate and that takes a toll on her mental

>> No.68478800
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68478800

Wait someone tell me was she always this feminine or is it the character? my mind doesn't connect Selen's clothes with Doki's.

>> No.68478938 [DELETED] 

Hey guys, I hate Enna and Millie and all that, but I heard some nasty things coming from Maririn and Scarle to Selen. I can't say how I know but please target those 2 instead please. Remember to take care of yourselfs.

>> No.68478949

I truly hope she has receipts or some sort of messages regarding this payment to truly sink this company to the ground. I just cannot comprehend anyone spending 200k a year without any remuneration, especially when most of her projects were canned by NijiEN management.

>> No.68478983

>>68478750
It's like semi coherent schizo babble.

>> No.68479008

>>68474494
seething chumbud

>> No.68479014
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Why is her mouth wonky?

>> No.68479026

>>68478800
Doki is definitely more feminine than Selen.

>> No.68479043

>>68478714
Who brought the bullying allegations to the public first.
Also, who specifically pointed towards Livers?

Answer me those questions, please

>> No.68479057

>>68477322
>>68477172
>>68477204
You retards don’t understand. Yt takes a cut, niji takes a cut, and divi it up however you like but the amount she would’ve made in that year is more than her channel could generate even under the absolute best conditions.

>> No.68479071

>>68476993
Lol so that's why she said her time off was embarrassing. It was cause she was sitting in a discord call backseating Selen. That's actually so cute.

>> No.68479120

>>68475291
Doesn't need the algorithm. Considering her donations cut increased by 98%, even if she gets a third of the views she had, she'll earn more than she used to. She can live off word of mouth alone.

>> No.68479139

>>68478800
She always wanted to get girlier with Selen

>> No.68479150

>>68478938
KYS

>> No.68479156

>>68479014
Maximum smug, also 3+year old model that hasnt gotten an update since

>> No.68479159

>>68478592
>made herself into a pitiful victim with sob stories that can't be proven or disproven without leaking information while continuing to profit off of the demise of her former employer
Yes, I do hear myself, you fucking simp

>> No.68479166

>>68478249
Yeah, I'm serious, turn off her stream and don't support her. Go watch Niji instead. We're not going to get receipts from either side on this so it's going to come down to your subjective opinion with the information provided.

>> No.68479179

>>68473713
NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT

>> No.68479181
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HOLY SHIT

>> No.68479200

>>68479043
Nijisanji lmao.

>> No.68479213

Mr. Man will be writing so don't be weird guys. Unless, you want to send your love to Mr. Man.

>> No.68479259

>>68476993
Most of the streamers on twitch (the small ones, that is), used to be (maybe still are) just people streaming stuff to their friends.

>> No.68479288

>>68478800
Blondes are inherently femenine, only way to counter the inate femeninity is going the ubermench route

>> No.68479290

>>68479014
i like the smug

>> No.68479310

>>68478949
>Women moment
>"The receipt is my bashful mouth"

>> No.68479359

>>68479159
thats not defamation retard.

>> No.68479365

>>68478949
No moron she was paid her share but in her attempt to organize events and other things she spent 200k because she wanted not because niji forced her to.

>> No.68479392

It's me, I'm Mr. Man

>> No.68479400

>>68476694
Even in america she's in the top 1%. 200k per year is fucking insane

>> No.68479463

>>68478938
Sauce? Or it's just your headcanon?

>> No.68479479

>>68479166
>She really don't deny it anymore.

>> No.68479550

>>68478301
>The top 20 holos only brought in $3-6 million in revenue for the company
For the company sure, but holo is not taking 98% of their fucking money. 200k for a top streamer with her metrics sounds low. Like really not good, especially for simp magnet vtubers who can rake in a grand or more in supas alone.

>> No.68479589

>>68479359
it is if she knowingly is spreading false information about the events in question

>> No.68479601
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>>68473713

>> No.68479599

>>68474448
mr.manager

>> No.68479600

>>68474441
This isn't hololive rope yourself

>> No.68479611

>>68476694
have you tried stopping being a SEA monkey?

>> No.68479666

>>68479200
Yes, so she did not directly spread (potentially mis-)information to the public in order to damage the company's reputation. That's the basis for a libel/defamation prosecution retard

>> No.68479673

>>68479159
>demise of her former employer
no you retard it only had a negligible impact, stop trying to falsefag sister

>> No.68479697

>>68479589
saying 'I spent 200k dollars' is not defamation you retard.

>> No.68479726

>>68479043
It was literally in their statement that they said Selen's legal counsel told them she still wanted to bring her claims to the public and that's why they didn't have a neutral parting. I hate how it's been 3 days but that part is conveniently forgotten.

>> No.68479748

COMPLETE DOKI DOMINANCE.

>> No.68479754
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>Pomu and Selen
YAGOOO
DO IT NOWWWWWWWWWWWW

>> No.68479755
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68479755

Why is she so well respected

>> No.68479768

>>68476941
its canadian dollars

>> No.68479830

>>68479400
Don't forget that's actual cash she's spent. So her actual pre tax earings would have been $250k before or so.

>> No.68479849

>>68479666
yeah i know retard. Read my post again dweeb.

>> No.68479858

>>68473713
ABSOLUTELY NEGLIGIBLE

>> No.68479874

>>68479673
>hurrr spamming a meme
all internet drama fades away sooner or later, retard.

>> No.68479914

>have to subscribe to type in chat
wow great, lets put chat interaction behind a paywall what a fun idea...

>> No.68479933

>>68473713
mrgligible

>> No.68479956

>>68475167
Can't agree. The rascally expression is great but she NEEDS the cute fangs her old model had

>> No.68479970
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>>68479754
I don't want secondhand tools.

>> No.68479990

>>68479697
it is if she's saying her own vanity projects are something the company should have spent money on, retard

>> No.68479996

>>68479914
subs are free on YouTube anon

>> No.68479997

>>68479914
????????

>> No.68480019

>>68479914
>seething chinkoid
Go back to the boat

>> No.68480028

>>68479914
subscription is free you monkey

>> No.68480026

>>68479914
>smashing that mf subscribe button costs money

>> No.68480059

>>68479914
Are you mentally challenged

>> No.68480069

>>68479970
Doesn't Hololive already have some ex-Nijis?

>> No.68480074

>>68479754
Nah selen is set for life now

>> No.68480115

>>68479990
But she never said that the company should have spent money on it, nigger.

>> No.68480118

>>68479673
>negligible impact
>an entire month of stock gains erased in 2 days

>> No.68480134

So art tags are flooded with bots and NFTs so she won't be using art in her tag anymore. Makes sense. She wants your tag suggestions.

>> No.68480137
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>HYTE removed the entirety of Nijisanji products off their site
>Not even a day later, already approaching Doki to see if they can get a collab going

NEGLIGIBLE DAMAGE BTW. HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS MUCH YOU MAKE THE PERSON YOU FIRED GET YOUR DEALS AND MONEY AHAHAHAHA

>> No.68480142

>>68479914
NDF-kun?!?!?!

>> No.68480146

>>68479139
And why didn't she do it?I thought she was having fun doing those tomboys outfits and not showing booba

>> No.68480159

>>68474441
If she had a female therapist she would leave the office with more problems than she arrived with

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>>68479181

>> No.68480190

>>68479697
she didn't even specifically what kind of dollar, retard. That's a half-truth, which means she's open to manipulating moronic synthetic faggots like you

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>>68479970
Shut your mouth, you himalayan dumpster monkey
I NEED POMU AND SELEN IN THE NEXT EN GEN

>> No.68480232

>>68479874
are you implying niji official statement is just a meme and this had an actual impact on nijiEN? which one is it sister?

>> No.68480248

>>68479914
Don't comment???????

Also don't forget to breathe retard..

>> No.68480251

>>68479874
That or a turbosperg archives it on KF

>> No.68480265

>>68480069
It's from JP. Having a westernd brang and h>>68480074
iring EN whore is bad enough.

>> No.68480290

>>68474441
She wants the job done properly this time around.

>> No.68480300

>>68479914
who invited the twitchnigger? should you be watching Shylily or something?
>>68480069
yeah Luna

>> No.68480322

>>68480190
>BUHH SHE DIDN'T SAY CANADIAN DOLLARS SO ITS DEFAMATION

this is one of the most retarded statements i've read.

>> No.68480325

>>68478240
Bruh
She got suspended for releasing a cover with permissions from everyone involved. While suspended she attempted to self delete. While recovering the company fired her without telling her.

Why are you defending this company lol. Don't bootlicker for a soulless corporation Jesus Christ anon.

>> No.68480324

>>68480137
Holy kek

>> No.68480341

>>68480137
slowpoke

>> No.68480347

>>68480137
nigger, they don't care about either party, it's called maintaining good PR

>> No.68480402

>>68480220
Go wait for blacknight ironlung faggot.

>> No.68480417

>>68480220
NO. I want new people. Not these ex-nijis.

>> No.68480440

>>68480159
based

>> No.68480443

>>68479159
Then you know hoy dumb you sound good. Her "former emplyer" is a fucking black company its not secret that has been know way before this. They can burn to the ground for all we care.

>> No.68480448

>>68479914
niji not sending the brightest damage controllers

>> No.68480486

>>68480325
why are you simping for some no name candian whore just because she got the axe?

>> No.68480487

>>68480325
No sense in trying to reason with Nikistan's

>> No.68480493

>she posts receipts
>gets slammed for NDA violation by nijisanji
She might be stupid, but she is not that retarded.

>> No.68480495

>>68480074
she's gonna spend her hundreds of thousands on PROJECTS again kek

>> No.68480507

>>68479755
>do a bunch of collabs and events with indies and other corps
>treat everyone well
>try to give back to your community out of your own pocket
>get fired on christmas day for doing so
Who isnt supporting her? Shes modern Bob Cratchit

>> No.68480547
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>>68480402
>>68480417
GO BACK TO CHINA

>> No.68480576

>>68480137
Hyte employs all of 15 people. Big fucking deal

>> No.68480579

>>68479914
Hey pal. You just blow in from stupid town?

>> No.68480634

>>68480486
Because you're a malding faggot, that's why

>> No.68480637

>>68480493
the nda is negligible in canada if her claims are basedd in truth lol

>> No.68480641

>>68473713
Deserved! I'm happy for her.

>> No.68480652

She sounds completely awestruck at having a manager that actually supports her.

>> No.68480654

>>68480547
Tell that to Selen TEE HEE.

>> No.68480708

imagine working for a Japanese company and not knowing how anal they are about rules and regulations. she should be grateful they put up with her bs for as long as they did

>> No.68480709

>>68479589
Yes, if it is false.

If it is false, then Niji has all grounds for suing her for the specific statements *she herself* has made, such as the 200k. And they probably would

If they are true, then she should not have anything to fear as Niji couldn't to anything.

She doesn't seem to have any fear sharing this, and Niji doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. Why do you think that is? So stop acting like Niji's shitty unpaid armchair lawyer

>> No.68480713

>>68475550
More like spending it all on projects and stuff. Didn't have to go that far.

>> No.68480731

>>68480493
retardchama
NDA are void when you get fired

>> No.68480733
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clearly you don't own an airfryer

>> No.68480742

>>68476278
That's what happens when the company takes 98% of your merch sales. I wouldn't be surprised if they took most of their sponsor money as well.

>> No.68480751

>>68480493
roru
rumao

>> No.68480752

>>68480654
Literally who?

>> No.68480817

>>68479914
>interaction
>6view chat going at warp 9

>> No.68480837

>>68480752
Idk either.

>> No.68480847

>>68480652
Which is consistent with the cockroach's experience in VShoujo.

>> No.68480908

>>68476278
>200k
>Miniscule
>For pretending to be an anime girl and play games
You fags need a reality check

>> No.68480926

>>68478240
Why the hell would you defend the nigger company that is ninjii?

>> No.68480986

>>68480733
this is it

this is the post that made me fall in love with this smug retard.

I do own an airfryer and I relate.

>> No.68481005

>>68473713
all that drama and it still didn't beat advent's debut
Truly negligible

>> No.68481006

>>68474441
She's a tomboy, it's fine
More also, a regular Selen stream always featured her collabing with Apex niggas

>> No.68481008

>shilling
yab I'm outta here

>> No.68481015
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ITT:
Nijishields seething soo hard the veins in their face begin to bulge and dissect.

>> No.68481014

>>68480347
That's exactly the point you mongoloid retard. Nijisanji fucked up so bad that at least one company decided it was bad PR to keep their deal with Nijisanji and it would be more profitable either monetarily or as positive advertisement to try to approach for a deal with the person fired.
That's like, three tiers of fuckup dude.

>> No.68481049

>>68480708
Yeah, and japanese hiring ENs not knowing how anal their country is about rules and regulations

>> No.68481084

>>68479611
Please understand, SEANiggers don't have any mental capacity for thinking

>> No.68481088

>>68476993
Mumei likes the cuck chair

>> No.68481093

>>68478301
Top streamers do not make money with ads, supers, or members. Those are all nice bonuses but the big money is from sponsors. Take for example asmongold mentioning that he will make around $50k minimum guarantees on sponsored streams. Thats one single stream. So ya 200k over a year for a streamer of her size is lower then expected.

>> No.68481115

>>68480652
Matara was the same. Niji managers only do their job if it means they can tell you to fuck off or pay for something yourself.

>> No.68481131

NOOO DOKI it is ok I will pay the lucky money don't say you wont marry me.

>> No.68481137

>>68474494
i know im not the only one who set the notif/bell for her channel, because I like drama. that kind of shit brings new people in, unavoidably, due to algo buff.

>> No.68481134

such fake positivity, you fags don't care about her you just want bloodsports. She no future regardless of how many companies and tubers suck her off today, there is a reason why she only blew up under the brand in the first place

>> No.68481205

>>68480448
Nop and i mean if anycolor had smart people in management to begin with you think they would be in this situation? They are crumbling down as we speak bc they keep being this stupid.

>> No.68481216

>>68480486
>simping for soulless zaibatsu-wannabe instead
Lmao fuck off.

>> No.68481220

>>68474442
She was (and still is) well liked in the community, something you'll never achieve.

>> No.68481243

>>68476454
I had a dude speak up in a meeting saying we didn't need to be compensated for something we had to spend money on while on a company trip. Fucker needed to shut up. "It's fine, we got it!" No we don't you retard.

>> No.68481252

>>68481134
t. enna

>> No.68481266

>>68480637
>in canada
Yea, for a fucking japanese company, that can sue the shit out of you either way. Even if her claims are 100% based on truth, a japanese company can still win a defamation lawsuit. And i would guess she might at some point still want to travel to Japan.

>> No.68481277

>>68481134
Fuck off chink CCP cock slurper

>> No.68481283

>>68479726
That literally doesn't fucking matter. What matters is if BOTH 1. She did say it publicly and 2. It was false. Both are required for a defamation lawsuit, and 1 is clearly not true.

Do you even know what defamation is or are you just grasping for anything you can think of?

>> No.68481320

>>68476278
Spoken like someone who clearly hasn't worked a single day in their life.

>> No.68481323

>>68480576
HYTE is part of iBUYPOWER one of the largest system builders/integrators in the United States.

>> No.68481328

>>68478240
seethe more Enna

>> No.68481354

>>68480325
Agree with everything but no the attempt to disappear from the earth that's her fault no even mysta who owes like 350k to the government tried that she can't hide her mental health behind that.

>> No.68481364

Stop fucking talking about China and get to the dirt already.

>> No.68481377

>>68477529
>Bae paid for her own projects
Bae actually gets to release most if not all of her projects, so there's actually a means to make her money back. Not just some retard manager saying "no" after months of effort just because it would require him to get off his ass and actually work for like a few hours to review it.

>> No.68481418

>>68481134
if you don't think she holds a consistent 2k+ after this, unless some skeleton comes out of her closet, you're crazy

>> No.68481503

>>68480486
because of you, it makes me happy seeing you mald

>> No.68481514

>>68481115
All the VSJ expats are flabbergasted at the level of support they receive compared to other orgs. Just goes to show many talent agencies are notoriously corrupt to their talents despite the industry they serve

>> No.68481522

>>68480713
Sure, but the more I hear about this shit... what the fuck is the manager doing? Does she not have someone for her financials? Get her sponsors for these projects? So she is not burning her own fucking cash for shit that will profit the company?

>> No.68481527

Wait is she some kinda yellow koreanese?

>> No.68481597

>>68481134
Hi millie, what does Tazumi's cum taste like?

>> No.68481641

>>68477529
>Bae paying

Are you a nigger or something? She won the lotto last year retardchama

>> No.68481664

>Already breached 350k subs
>Over 100k viewers in stream
The algorithm is going to push her like crazy

>> No.68481689

>>68481266
>And i would guess she might at some point still want to travel to Japan.
its bewildering to me, that people think the japanese government gives a fuck about any of this, no, they are not going to ban her from the company cause nijisanji has a shit fit dude

>> No.68481759

>>68481527
chink

>> No.68481763

>>68481641
>The one who never watch her streams

>> No.68481765

>>68481664
Eh, it tends to treat sudden blowups with suspicion.

>> No.68481789

>>68480652
>She sounds completely awestruck at having a manager that actually supports her.

niji managers are that in name only

>> No.68481808
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>>68481134
>you just want bloodsports
Yes, I want to see Niji Burn

>> No.68481818

>>68481664
200k bought her many friends in the industry

>> No.68481821

>>68480325
and? her mental issues are irrelevant, but I guess they mean everything when painting her as a victim.

>> No.68481900

>>68481283
She THREATENED 1 and that's why they made that statement. Their lawyers have been talking so you're assuming either side is lying.

>> No.68481924

>>68480908
I don't think you are on the same page, 200k is a fuck ton of money in a year. Its however not a fuckton of money if you are an anime girl playing games with thousands of viewers on both her live streams and her videos + merch sales + sponsorships...Then no, its not a lot of money.

>> No.68481955

I like how you all think it’s these companies that are the stupid ones when they aren’t the ones signing contracts and generating content while owning NOTHING of the IP or the content they are generating.

All corpo vtubers are all dumb as rocks

>> No.68481964

>>68480731
>NDA are void when you get fired

You are unironically fucking retarded.

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-a-confidentiality-and-non-disclosure-agreement--2035440.html

>> No.68481978

>>68481664
those 350k subs? all me
those 120k viewers? all me

>> No.68481984

>>68477529
Paying for projects is par for the course even marine spent hundreds of thousands on one song, she’s also not alone in that so any complaints she makes is her just yapping. My issue is the amount she claims would’ve generated

>>68477461
Ok she made over 200k now what about the cuts? She made $450k total supers in almost 3 years. Her average views barely broke 50k and this is only counting streams that were monetized. Some holos don’t even have 5k members let alone holding it the whole year but even giving her the benefit of the doubt of 5k members the whole year here’s how it would work out
>Supers around $128k
>Members $360k
>Ad rev $60k (Gura streaming consistently probably doesn’t average that)
Now we take out yt cut
>Supers $89.6k
>Members $251k
>Ad rev $42k
Now we throw in nijis cut and to be nice we’ll say it’s equal to Hololive
>Supers $44.5k
>Members $125.5k
>Ad rev $21k
Overshooting her members, giving her more ad rev than even Gura could realistically make, splitting her supers evenly across 42 months, and giving her the same split as holos she’d still undershoot that. Even with merch at a 50% split she’d have to sell $40k to barely break $200k. Either niji works magic or she’s fucking lying.

>> No.68482048

im out of the loop when it comes to nijiniggers
why are people here talking about millie and enna, are they turbocunts

>> No.68482072

>>68481964
>Murrica
retardchama...

>> No.68482083

What a dumb bitch. she spend over 200k that’s her own fault.

>> No.68482098

>>68477529
Yeah Bae paid for it. So did Pomu too.
Bae paid for three projects of her own and got them all out.
Pomu paid and put the work behind 6 cover songs and released none of them
Selen/Doki has been working on a song since at LEAST november 2022, which is when the song creator contacted the company to inform them they had approval.

Shit considering Gura, I'm willing to believe Bae paid outta pocket so Cover can then later refund it to her after it's released. Meanwhile we have more than one Vtuber testifying how Anycolor makes strings them along, never pays any invoice, and cancels things last minute, including videos, concerts, and so far a one-in-a-lifetime opportunity for Pomu which I guess it would be some TV thing or whatever.

Can you tell the difference nigger?

>> No.68482115

>>68481964
>americans
how retarded

>> No.68482120

>>68480731
>are void when you get fired
lmao, that is not how that works and any court when upheld will figure out what the issue will arise when it comes

>> No.68482133

>>68481978
t. me and my 3 million smart toothbrushes https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/smart-home/3-million-smart-toothbrushes-were-just-used-in-a-ddos-attack-or-were-they/

>> No.68482141

>made 200k
>Went broke
Women really are atrocious with Money

>> No.68482170

>>68481266
Nigger, it's not defamation if it's true are you actually fucking retarded?

>> No.68482195

>>68476694
>bruh I'm paid 6k usd a year in my shithole country.
Holy shit
What does that have to do with anything about whether Niji pays well???

>> No.68482204

>>68480731
that's not how the law works, zoomer

>> No.68482331

>>68481689
No, they will arrest her. If niji opens a lawsuit against her, especially one where they would win in japan, she would either get her entry denied at the border and told to fuck off as someone who has a active lawsuit running against her. Or the lawsuit would precede without her, she would lose by default since its kinda hard to defend yourself without being there, and then be pretty much a criminal, soooo again, good luck getting into Japan. They don't fuck around like the southern US border.

>> No.68482332

>>68473713
nobody would watch this fattie if they saw her pic lmao. she only inclined because of the brand, all drama tourists will be gone by next week.

I don't really care anyway, there are many better and cuter streamers in NijiEN

>> No.68482348

>>68480733
such an ugly fucking emote

>> No.68482376
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>>68478240
>hasn't proven anything and has without a doubt ruined the company's image
How fucking new can you be? Go back

>> No.68482519

>>68476230
explains why people dont leave a black company.

>> No.68482548

>>68474441
She's working with the current Xset manager
She's actually dating nocturnal https://x.com/BySovereign

>> No.68482556

>>68482098
The difference here is Hololive knows how to work on a JP corp. LMAO FAGGOT. You're too emotional, breathe.

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>>68481134
>She no future regardless of how many companies and tubers suck her off today
>She no future
FIRTHY GAIJIN SHE NO FUTURE, SHE WIRR FAIR WITHOUT NIJI, NEGRIBRU DAMAGE!!!1111

>> No.68482592

Why is she shitting on her audience sisters?

>> No.68482618

>>68481821
and what? She's flawed, and definitely has mental problems. She probably did make a big issue for niji releasing the cover. Humans are flawed anon, and the company handled everything horribly badly. Period. I don't even need to bring in all the extra context around other talents and their experiences.

Get a grip, being a contrarian isn't a personality.

>> No.68482637

>>68477529
You made me remember that Kanata also spent a lot of money on the song for Coco and paid for it out of her own pocket.

>> No.68482653

>>68482592
Because we enjoy being shat upon

>> No.68482658

>>68480731
EKS DEE
Lemme guess. You are chinese and never had to deal with legal matters that are actually enforced and are not just solved by slipping the judge a few juan?
NDA are between 2 parties for a specific reason. It does not matter if one is employed or not. Whatever is covered by the NDA can not be disclosed. Even when the partnership whatever it was ends.

>> No.68482676

>all this simping for a fat chinese leaf
lol, lmao even, I hope Niji takes her to court, she's ruining it for the streamers with actual talent

>> No.68482690

>>68482332
>>I don’t care
>>*sniff*
>here’s my doxxfaggotry smear btw
The law of “Every Nijifag is also a doxxfag” still applies, it seems.

>> No.68482704

>>68481984
She can borrow the rest from her family, she is an Asian anon

>> No.68482715

>>68481900
The whole point of the conversation was if she could be sued for defamation or not. To prove defamation you must prove that a false statement was made to the public. She didn't make the statement public, Niji fucking did.

So it does not matter if their lawyers are in talks, they can't sue, period.

>> No.68482789

>>68482048
>millie and enna, are they turbocunts?
Enna? yes, absolutely
Millie? not quite, she's just addicted sucking corpo cock. also just in general loves getting bukkake'd

>> No.68482886

>>68482548
I am okay with this.

>> No.68482898

>>68480637
Only if it's something specifically illegal.
And only if she shows that shit in court, not on stream.
Otherwise there would be no point in NDA in the first place.

>> No.68482921

>>68478240
>he said she said
Doki has barely claimed anything. Even the 200k was her Mother's claim.
The worst of what people are saying about Nijisanji has been self-admitted by Nijisanji themselves in their own official announcements. Absolutely fucking nothing is going to come of any lolsuit attempts.

>> No.68482936

WAITING FOR NAMES PLEASE HURRY UP!

>> No.68483032

Damn Selen was swimming in money. Niji do pay good. But she was the second biggest

>> No.68483037

>>68479914
>subscribe
>paywall
Way to out yourself as a chink mainlander.

>> No.68483035

Glad I believed neither side
>shitty corpo that takes a huge cut, treats their employees like shit and allows hostile cliques to form
>manipulative grifter whore who used made-up pitybait to get a whole lot of saviorfags and dramafags to simp for her simply because they think that the company is worse
All she wanted was a bigger cut, as evidenced by this stream. She doesn't want to pay the corpo and keep ALL simpbux to herself. I hope you retards learn the lesson this time.

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68483049

Phase Connect is now the true #2 company

>> No.68483080

>>68482715
>To prove defamation you must prove that a false statement was made to the public.
I'm not that anon, and while she is a resident of Canada for all I know, the company is Japanese. And in Japan you don't have to prove jack shit to sue for defamation.
>A person who defames another by publicly alleging facts shall, regardless of whether such facts are true or false

>> No.68483097

>>68482936
It was me I did it, all of it

>> No.68483112

>>68483049
Hate to see it...

>> No.68483123

>>68482921
her stream isn't over and she said "I will not be silent", moron.

>> No.68483140

>>68482115
Know your place, slant-eyed bug, lest you want third nuke delivered to you.

>> No.68483157

>>68483032
>selen keeps 200k
>niji keeps 6 million

>> No.68483162

Her ESL tongue struggles with freebirds for some reason.

>> No.68483170

>made over 200k
>spends all of it
>”niji is to blame for her retarded spending”

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68483194

>>68483035
>All she wanted was a bigger cut, as evidenced by this stream. She doesn't want to pay the corpo and keep ALL simpbux to herself. I hope you retards learn the lesson this time.
Your time is up Niji boot licker

>> No.68483207

>>68483049
who? ah yeah the Pipkin Pippa company, they have more than one member?

>> No.68483217

>>68478313
bring the manager with her.

>> No.68483267

>>68483170
KEWK

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68483285

>>68474240
UNCAGED

>> No.68483293

>>68483162
Freebirds sounds like shit.

>> No.68483310

>>68483194
BUY THE STAND PAYPIGGY
retard

>> No.68483350

>>68483170
She needed every gun skin in Apex ok? It was a business expense.

>> No.68483390

>>68483170
Does Niji have that kind of money to give to their livers?

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>>68483170
>niji is to blame for her retarded spending
She never said that

>> No.68483444

>>68481984
Missing sponsorships in your numbers which will generally make up more then half of a large streamers revenue for the year. The bigger the streamer and the larger the discrepancy becomes. For example I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Gura pulled in more then 70% of her revenue from sponsorships.

>> No.68483461

>>68483350
Manager kun could probably have gotten in contact with the apex devs and give her a all unlocked acc.

>> No.68483558

>>68483123
Yeah, and she hasn't said shit yet, so if that's the approach you want to take shut the fuck up with baseless speculation and wait for her to actually make a claim before you start pissing and shitting yourself

>> No.68483613

>>68483170
>Start projects being told the company will pay at least a part of it
>months happen and the company hasn't done shit
>have to pay out of pocket because your name is in the signature
>after paying the company just ignores you in request for the money you had to pay and keeps all the money made out of the whole event including merch and sponsors only giving you 2%

>> No.68483661

>>68482072
>https://www.rippling.com/blog/non-disclosure-agreement-in-canada

>But NDAs are facing intense scrutiny: lawyers in Canada are pushing for new rules to reform NDAs, to stop them from being used to silence whistleblowers or workers who have experienced harassment, discrimination, or abuse.

Specifically pointing out for retards like you.
>pushing for new rules to reform NDAs
>pushing

Be retarded somewhere else, nijicuck.

>> No.68483688

>>68480486
Doesn’t deny being an idiot bootlicker. On one hand I respect the fact you must be in such a poor state that defending corpos is your bread crumb money. On the other hand, working for McDonald’s is probably more money.

>> No.68483707

>>68483444
Probably more. I have seen some small youtubers show their ad revenue, being pitiful. Like 50-100$ on their good vids. Meanwhile a sponsor would pay 1k no questions asked. And that is for tiny ass streamers/cc.

>> No.68483741

I'm candian and have an uwu voice, i should audition to take the bitch's place lmao. fuck this drama whore for ruining my oshi's future, don't throw a tantrum because you got kicked, leave with grace

>> No.68483772

>>68483157
She didnt keep 200k only, evidently she has to pay bills the 200k was only for projects.

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>>68479970
And I don't want onis in my company. Get hexxed

>> No.68483857

>>68479550
>>68481093
Your feelings don’t determine her worth. A youtuber with 1.5 million subs with 15 million views a month, members and supers barely makes 7 figures in a year though his is mostly 15 minute videos with rarely a few streams a month. He does a sponsored ad read every video/stream and a sponsored header. This is only youtube revenue but this is mid tier for a youtuber
Asmongold makes 50k on a sponsored stream because A he rarely if ever drops below 30k live viewers and B is the owner of OTK meaning more than just the people watching him will see it. The fact you think Selen was anywhere close to that level is insane. Have you ever watched her?

>> No.68483915

>>68483613
You forgot
>company gets angry at you for paying out of pocket and that you should have just let them sort it out

>> No.68484025

>>68483613
She spend most of da money on food. Lots and lots of food oink oink

>> No.68484029

>>68483613
It's baffling how much weebs are in the damage control for the nijisanji. The scenario you described is pretty much a common knowledge for anyone who worked in big enough company.
Which yet again proves that nijifans are terminally online faggots living on their mom's paycheck.

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>>68483741
very nice bait anon

>> No.68484063

>>68483915
The cherry on top being
>Company says all the work you paid for is not approved by them and never will, canning it.

>> No.68484082

>>68482170
You can always find the tourist. You can in Japan and you’d know that because it gets brought up at least once a week

>> No.68484176

>>68483613
sounds like a her problem then LMAO

>> No.68484194

>>68477529
paying for your own projects is less egregious when you get a bigger cut of the profits.

>> No.68484206

>>68483856
I don't want double dead meat.

>> No.68484232

>>68481377
>Remix of original song, unnamed cover,

>> No.68484294

>>68484025
Damn, don't be too obvious here Enna

>> No.68484328

>>68479550
I'm impressed with how bad you guys are at understanding English when she said 200k isn't English your main language?

>> No.68484452

>>68483857
I used him as an easy example. The 50k was for a 2hr stream. And Asmon mentioned this was low for him.

Another example on the flip side is fogged, a league streamer, being payed out $2500 for RAID shadow legend. He however had to stream it for far longer.

I would expect Selen to be somewhere in between these numbers and I would expect her to be big enough that over 50% of her revenue would come from sponsorships.

>> No.68484459

>>68484194
https://youtu.be/U9VR9xhNLXI?si=c0oXmmyJcZ4CI_sw

https://youtu.be/Vpw7b1qV3qw?si=UaRyl1BAoAXK0ne6

>> No.68484520

>>68484328
she's lying so who cares?

>> No.68484540

>>68475968
BRAVO, KOJIMA

>> No.68484636

>>68483915
>just let them sort it out
When, in the next century?
People like to bitch about government bureaucracy, but company bureaucracy is fucking worse.
I once spent 6 months without any work, while assigned on a project until company fucking remembered that I am assigned on it.

If they are this slow on the shit that costs them money (i've received my paycheck for those 6 months still), how much fucks they don't give when they aren't ones to have any losses?

>> No.68484723

>>68481924
IM until 2022 or whenever the twitch leak was had made a total of $400k+ during her time on twitch. Selen brought home $200k in a year after yt cut, and nijis cut. Are you going to say Selen is worth that much more than IM?

>> No.68484727

>>68481821
You're a retarded gerbil. Nearly every Liver who has left Nijisanji and talked about their experiences at the company have told similar stories to what Doki has said. You have to know this.

Are they all lying? Maybe it's a big conspiracy to sabotage Nijisanji!

>> No.68484872

>>68484025
Ok Enna thats enough at least try to be funny for once instead of just annoying

>> No.68484980

>>68474494
>She’ll be a 2view by next month.
you wish
she will be 1 view once the fake manufactured hared of niji dies down

>> No.68485036

i hate how generic her old-new design is, she basically stole mine, hope she does end up killing herself in minecraft.

>> No.68485119

>>68484025
she’s so silly. the piggy spend 200k on food. she’s a dumby. her new manager needs to control her over eating habits.

>> No.68485126

>>68484980
NIJISISTERS IN FULL DEFENCE MODE

>> No.68485282

>>68484980
I'm still not watching your Ennama

>> No.68485322

>>68484980
hello, enna

>> No.68485355

>>68485126
lmao you sure as shit won't be talking about this bitch next year

>> No.68485372

>>68484980
You are expecting the hatred of niji dies down by its own? In what world are you living?

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>>68484025

>> No.68485444

>>68476108
bro, you got people making millions crashing and burning by overinvesting
200k is a lot ... but not buisness a lot
niji spends over 150 milion $ a year on marketing, events and shit

>> No.68485454

>>68485355
we won't be talking about you next year, enna

>> No.68485594

>>68485454
ching chong pin pong to you too, simp

>> No.68485616

>>68485355
Maybe, but you'll still be a bootlicker nijinigger in a year, so who's really the loser here.

>> No.68485654

>>68484980
I'm really sorry Kyo is graduating, Enna.

>> No.68485730

>>68484723
Who the fuck is IM? Literally never heard of IM on twitch. Also yes, just the fact that twitch takes more of a cut than youtube does and that is before haggling with either. She would have to work less and still make the same cash. Just the difference in cut would mean that someone earning 400k on twitch would be making over 500k on youtube.

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68485808

>>68473713
Imagine that thing "in the end" that she promised will be her offing herself live, on stream?

>> No.68485948

>>68485808
Spill, I'm watching my favorite streamer rn.

>> No.68486042

>>68476108
For a single person, sure that is a lot. If you look at her as business, not that impossible. Just getting 1 commission done for digital art can be between 300-5k. I would assume prices for video editing, 3d modeling and shit like that go way beyond. I mean I guess you can try to offload everything to chinese sweatshops.

>> No.68486108

I hope her new manager will survive...

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