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This isn't a rrat just a thought, do you think EN will soon be slowly closed off from JP once GEN2 comes around? Im not saying strict bans or shit like that, but more them getting nudged to mostly preform with each other. It isn't totally unreasonable to think COVER may want to get the EN market really going and therefore focusing EN on solely themselves and not water it down with JP. Again not saying JP will be banned from collabing with EN but, it won't be as common a thing once GEN2 (and possibly GEN3) come around.

>> No.6813295

No. EN/JP mc server link, increasing number of jp collabs, and the newest member being fluent in nip all point to the opposite imo.

>> No.6813297

I wouldn't say closed off. But definitely more opportunities to collab among themselves that they might not have time collabing with JP.

>> No.6813336

Depends on their Ender dragon collab

>> No.6813346

>>6813295
Honestly I'd love to see them open up the JP server to have both EN and JP

>>6813297
I feel like it would be only natural to do so, so they dont over saturate themselves and slowly be able to introduce the JP talents AFTER the EN get their heels deep in the soil

>> No.6813374

They were always going to interact less with JP the more EN members were introduced. Anyone who thought otherwise is retarded.

>> No.6813420

>>6813374
That does suck in a way.

>> No.6813430

This isn't really possible. They are content creators which means they will always look for new dynamics. After awhile, the streamers themselves want new people to interact with. New games. New places and whatnot. Viewers wants that too. Interactions with JP just makes sense content wise and for numbers. Gura only hit 40k while streaming a game because she was in the JP server.

>> No.6813467

>>6813374
>implying kiara will ever lay off collabing with JPs
>implying irys won't collab with JPs
>implying cover will ever stop heavily weighing moon fluency and residency in hiring decisions
>being a moron

>> No.6813505

>>6813254
The opposite.
There'll be more collabs and they're going to join HoloJP and HoloEN minecraft servers. However the fuck it's even possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryyb6tn9F4A

>> No.6813518

>>6813254
I'll bite:

Do I personally believe that EN 2 (or whatever the fuck they get called) will be discouraged from interacting with JP? No. Will they be more encouraged to interact with the original EN girls internally to expand their own branch/division? Sure, I'll buy that. Cover's big new money maker is the EN branch, despite what anyone might claim. Irys just debuted a week ago, and already she's at half a mil in subs, making decent supachat money, and is maintaining a live viewer growth of over 10k a stream. Anyone thsa thinks Hololive, EN, or v-tubing in general is going to decline soon at any moment is fucking wrong.

>> No.6813559

>>6813254
Some of the Holostars and all of ID are still collabing with the JP girls often. Why would EN be any different?

>> No.6813561

>>6813254
>EN will soon be slowly closed off from JP once GEN2 comes around
they are about to link the EN and JP minecraft server, anon, and several are already looking for tour guides to each other`s

>> No.6813588

>>6813518
>>6813254
And just to add, if anyone thinks that interaction with JP at all is only going to bring EN down, people just need to look at the Usaken Summer festival streams or Coco's graduation stream[/spoil] to show that JP will always be relevant and probably remain as the main attraction.

>> No.6813593

It's unlikely.
The issue is more that most of them can't really collab with the JP girls due to no shared languages.
Ollie however will likely continue to extend her reach and basically become a EN girl

>> No.6813618

>>6813588
Yeah I think as a business Cover is focusing on the JP girls because their returns on them are a lot higher since theres a lot more they can do with them.
You can't do a lot of things with the ENG girls because either distance, cultural differences or western audiences simply not accepting it/being interested in it.
It's like advertising, they're already pimping out the JP girls to advertise stuff. But the instant they try that with the EN girls the fans will freak.

>> No.6813623

>>6813254
holoID already separated from JP from the start in term of managment disicions. holoEN mostly the same, but they are big to the point they ve got more conections to Cover for some operations + 2 members (Calli and iRys) are in Jp.

>> No.6813673

I don't think there will be any kind of policy to encourage this one way or the other, but natural inertia would be for people who understand each other and whom their audience can understand would interact more. Especially for people like Gura and Ame that understand no Japanese at all.

>> No.6813702

>>6813346
they're going to connect the servers once EN beats the Ender Dragon.

>> No.6813728

>>6813254
What I think is that from now on everyone new will be a bilingual speaker living in Japan.

>> No.6813752

>>6813728
This wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

>> No.6813762

>>6813728
They will run out of good talents real quick. Just a bunch of mediocre people recruited because they checked off two boxes. Also if they're gonna do that they better hurry up because Niji EN is already burning through the bilingual indie talent pool.

>> No.6813839

>>6813673
This is why you get units forming naturally like the Micomet, Shiranui kensetsu, Bakatare, SMOK and Subachocoluna. I can even say Mel and Ina are quite a great pair. It's bound to happen.

>> No.6813864

>>6813762
My suspicion is that Cover will focus on bringing in people outside the vtuber industry.

>> No.6813953

>>6813593
Ame is also a stand out despite only meme JP known

>> No.6813990
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Honestly it should be the opposite I want more collabs like the Dodgeball one, I really think it benifits everyone, I also want to see a game that can give us JP EN AND ID all at once maybe another AMOGUS.

I hope the EN gen 2 members scout are bilingual though the problem is EN really aren't that good at Japanese (deadbeats and KFP I don't fucking care you oishi while passable are still lacking). I love IRyS for this but hate her timezone same with Mori I don't think it smart to find people in Japan itself but if they can find weebs outside that are fluent i'm all up for it. I also don't think it's fair that Brit bros don't have one, NZ and AUS are close enough to Japan it's not a big deal.

I don't think they need more EN only collabs they need more international collabs and to do that they need to start either taking Japanese serious or Cover has to find bilingual non Japanese speak English natives.

>> No.6813998

>>6813505
Remember that minecraft already has multiple dimensions and traveling between them built in. I'm sure there is mod or something that lets you have two different overworlds and then create a portal between them.

>> No.6814022

>>6813990
Yeaaah I don't think they'll ever do a British holo.
The timezones are just too inconvenient.

>> No.6814027

>>6813336
I thought they'd wait for gen 2 for the dragon. But gen2 is taking longer than I expected aslo.

>> No.6814093

>>6813990
>Kiara
>lacking in japanese
I mean at least go for a complaint that makes even a slight amount of sense.

>> No.6814098

>>6813295
>EN/JP mc server link
You know what happens when a more advanced civilization meets a lesser one. Pekora is gonna put the ENs on a plantation.

>> No.6814165

>>6813762
>Niji EN is already burning through the bilingual indie talent pool
That's true, but also that doesn't effect cover much. Cover has a long history of hiring none Vtubers.

Expect outsider picks until proven otherwise.

>>6813990
>Kiara
>Not good at Japanese
Anon, she's so good at Japanese that Marine thought she was a Native speaker until they met in person. My Oshi is lacking in many areas, but Japanese is definitely not one of them.

>> No.6814210

>>6814022
>The timezones are just too inconvenient.
Not for Europe. And if they stream in the middle of the day (UK time), they hit JP primetime.

>> No.6814227

>>6814093
She's the most fluent in the group, no doubt about it, only a few rare occasions like HoloTalk when the guest just goes in with their story, Matsuri for example, that she didn't have enough time to live translate well.
But then again being fluent in a language and being able to live translate it to another language that isn't even your mother tongue are two completely different tiers.

>> No.6814247

>>6813346
>Honestly I'd love to see them open up the JP server to have both EN and JP
They're merging the servers, the EN Girls just want to beat the Ender Dragon before hand

>> No.6814250

>>6814022
Mid day is JP prime time, and they'd in the same rough timezone as Kiara. A British/Irish Holo would be fine.

>> No.6814346
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6814346

>>6814165
>I am glad that I met people who love me for who I am
>i don't want to be everyone's favorite, just someone's.
Kiara

>> No.6814391

>>6813254
>preform
perform

>> No.6814426

>>6813467
>implying cover will ever stop heavily weighing moon fluency and residency in hiring decisions
The worst part. Everyone is hoping for Vtubers from all over the English speaking world to represent their time zones but cover just wants Jap girls who can speak English.

>> No.6814456

>>6813295
>EN/JP mc server link
not possible, EN is a microsoft realm and JP is a dedicated server

>> No.6814463

>>6814426
It's going to be 2-3 NAs, 1-2 JPs and 1-2 Euros for gen2

>> No.6814470

>>6814456
Anon they swapped to a dedicated server months ago

>> No.6814757

>>6814463
I'd be surprised if they did any euros.

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>>6814022
Not really though? Any Brit/other yuro would do fine in EN2. They'll be able to cover actual EU primetime slot, which not even Kiara does for some reason. They can also reach decent JP times. Then if they decide to do late night streams, say just before midnight, they would still be able to reach people watching in the afternoon from NA.

>> No.6815457

>>6815384
> Any Brit/other yuro would do fine in EN2
you might get three

>> No.6815475

>>6814098
Well Kiara is already enslaved

>> No.6815559

>>6815384
Well one problem may be that a lot of euros will be uninterested in pursuing the english market.
It really limits your potential options.
And most bong women are best described as maximum normie

>> No.6815567

>>6814098
It would be hilarious to see Miko trying to feel up Ame or Flare trying to bring Gura to ber home for "touring" purposes. Lolicons will bait the sharky. It's going to be great

>> No.6815756

>>6815559
>Most Euros aren't interested in pursuing the euro market
>It really limits your potential options
Anon, not to be rude but this is one of the daftest things I've ever seen posted on this website. How is speaking English, the Modern Lingua Franka of Europe (and the world for that matter) going to limit them? Or better yet, tell me what alternative they have? All the European countries with any money are basically English fluent.

>> No.6815796

>>6815559
I bet they have recieved plenty of applications from people living in highly fluent ESL speaking countries, like in Scandinavia and Netherlands. People from there would have no issue pursuing an English market, and burgers probably won't be put off by their accents either. We'll likely get a HoloES sometime in the future, but for now I'll be surprised if there isn't at least one european in EN2.

>And most bong women are best described as maximum normie
True. I can't see many girls in the UK obsessed with vtubing enough to actually work for Cover. The culture isn't like that here. It's mostly just ironic weeb women and twitch titty streamers.

>> No.6815938

>>6815756
English does not equal European.
The EU alone has 24 officially recognised languages and that doesn't cover all of the languages on the continent.

Anyways I don't think a French girl would be terribly interested in pursuing a career as an English language vtuber. Same for most Germans, Spaniards, etc.
Especially in the current environment where the EU member states are mostly taking a very anti-English stance.

And for all these languages there simply isn't a big enough market to justify the effort.
HoloRUS is more likely.

>>6815796
HoloES would be a terrible mistake.
Mainly because Spanish is one of those languages that has mutated so dramatically outside of Spain that its not unusual for Spanish speakers to be completely incapable of understanding each other.
Say you get someone who speaks actual Spanish not cocaine or jungle spanish. They'll basically be locked out of the south american market as they'll be unable to understand them reliably.

>> No.6818442

>>6815938
Nobody gives a fuck about the EU's politics taking an anti-English stance, or about obscure native languages, those things are just so far removed from relevancy to english speaking European weebs it's not even funny. Look at Kiara, she was happy to join holoEN, and how many German streams has she done since?

>> No.6818543

>>6815938
>Yurop
>making a big fucking deal regarding language
No wonder you shits are retarded

>> No.6818628

Imagine Europeans demanding for Hololive(whatever-the-fuck-language).

Thank God Cover is a Japanese company

>> No.6818709

>>6815938
Most retarded take I've ever seen regarding languages.

>> No.6818830

>>6813295
>EN/JP mc server link
Are they finally doing this? I always thought it was stupid that they didn't just make a global server when EN's collab ban ended

>> No.6818934

>>6818628
>Imagine Europeans demanding for Hololive(whatever-the-fuck-language).
No european is doing this though. The HoloES brigade is mostly spics from south america. Russians asking for HoloRU are purely meming. Actual yuros have no issue at all with any (hypothetically) future european Holos just speaking English as part of HoloEN. It's as simple as that.

>> No.6819131

>>6818830
They said Enma will build a portal to the jp server when they slay the ender dragon

>> No.6819323

>>6818442
Kiara isn't exactly European.

>>6818934
>>6818709
American takes are more retarded

>> No.6819588

>>6819323
>Kiara isn't exactly European.
Where do you think she's from?

>> No.6819772

>>6819588
She's German but as I recall has spent much of her life outside of Germany.
With Australia featuring prominently. And as we all know: if an australian bites you then you become an australian

>> No.6819844

>>6819772
>With Australia featuring prominently.
This utter retard actually fell for the meme..

>> No.6819934

>>6819772
>Australia
Maximum kek.

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>>6819772
>>6819323
Can't tell if trolling or actually stupid.

>> No.6820245

>>6813254
If this branch wasn't called "Hololive EN" nobody would give a shit about these bitches. They don't even interact with JP and are basically their own thing.

>> No.6820467

>>6814098
And Miko will protect her new friends from the rabbit. PekoMiko war 2 LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.6820636

>>6820245
Honestly if you made just swapped them with NijiEN the numbers would just be swapped. Maybe wouldn't have the 3m of Gura but the rest would be around even. I feel like people continue to underestimate how much value have the Hololive tag carries at the point in time. It'll likely drop in time, but currently it's guaranteed success with little work required.

>> No.6821318

>>6815938
>I don't think a French girl would be terribly interested in pursuing a career as an English language vtuber
did you forget these girls make 100k+ a month? If you think English speaking French whores aren't salivating at the thought of a slice from that pie you are retarded.

>HoloRUS is more likely
ok I guess you are retarded. The average RUS speaker is poorer than the average ES and theres only like 1/5th as many of them if that. The closest you'll get is if some multilingual slav like kyOresu gets in to EN.

>> No.6821475

>>6820636
are you forgetting that zero holos had a million subs before EN came out? EN is what took hololive from slim lead to undisputed world leader.

>> No.6821598

>>6815567
didn't miko already try that at the festival?

>> No.6821757

>>6813254
It would be a good thing, HoloJP has been leeching pretty hard the success of HoloEN, when other EN could be the ones benefiting from it.

>> No.6822579

>>6820245
>Don't even interact with JP
is this bait?

>> No.6822890

>>6819772
>Australia
Oh anon, if only you knew...

>> No.6822979

>>6813505
Always wondered why EN had their own server when JP and ID were together from the start.

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If that's true, then that might give StarsEN a chance to collab with the EN girls in a way StarsJP couldn't with the JP girls, which would help them grow considerably. Sadly, NijiEN will probably roll out their guys first, so Hololive might lose the male war on the western front, too.

>> No.6823197

>>6822979
They say it was so they could collab internally before the 1-month ban was lifted. It started as just a realm and was only recently upgraded to a real server after a long lull in anyone from EN bothering with miencraf

>> No.6823221

KIARA PUSSY HUGE

>> No.6823280

>>6813346
Are Holostars on the JP server as well?

>> No.6823922

>>6823053
>which would help them grow considerably
If homos need to parasite off the girls then they shouldn't exist in the first place.

>> No.6824019

>>6823053
They haven't even held StarsEN auditions. They baited the EN Gen 2 auditions to accept "all genders" but then only looked at the female applicants. This isn't a rrat btw, can confirm since they didn't look at mine at all and I have a penis

>> No.6824137

>>6822979
Guessing latency was a factor. EOPs like Gura will naturally distance themselves from jp because of lag and time zones.

>> No.6825010

>>6823053
StarsEN will not happen until the JP stars have a steady JP fanbase, also go the fuck back to whichever place you came from.

>> No.6825905

>>6822579
>tweets "happy birthday" once a year
WOW THEY ARE LIKE FAMILY

>> No.6826152

>>6824019
I bet you 99% of the males that applied don't even know the Stars are a thing, and if they do they couldn't name one.

>> No.6826664

>>6819772
Watch out for the dropbears.

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