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Weekly superchats edition
Previous: >>6719587

>> No.6768400
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>>6768224
Ayunda Risu has made $91 in the past 7 days

>> No.6768439

>>6768400
On Youtube Superchat, I assume. Does that include Streamlabs?
For reference, how much Moona and Ollie got?

>> No.6768474
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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1417047827859972098
ONE MILLION SUBS

>> No.6768495

>>6768224
Why are you not posting live views lol

>> No.6768524

>>6768439
Yes youtube superchats. Ollie is at $5858 and Moona is at $220

>> No.6768527

>>6768495
Vnuma is dead and these threads are useless

>> No.6768553

>>6768527
and yet you're still here because you enjoy seething

>> No.6768620

>>6768495
Well, if you have a way to post views then please, be our guess

>> No.6768644

>>6768620
guest*
hate auto correct

>> No.6768678

>>6768524
sugoi zoomer zombie

>> No.6768706

>>6768524
ID2's fanbase is mostly westerners who came in with EN and are already used to using superchats, while ID1's fanbase are mostly indonesians or have otherwise already gotten used to using streamlabs

>> No.6768748
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You can have a rough idea in Playboard by filtering to JP only. Please note that it counts premieres as lives as well.

>> No.6768767

>>6768748
Wow, this is worthless.

>> No.6768802

>>6768748
HoloEN btw counts as part of JP in Playboard Probably because the channels were created in JP.

>> No.6768837

>>6768767
Nope. It gives you a bigger perspective of the relevance of Vtubers in mainstream YT JP.

>> No.6768840

>>6768802
Yeah, kinda weird their YT channel's location is set in JP

>> No.6768843
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Felt bored, so wanted to see how the ever contested #2 spot in HoloEN lined up in this past month. As usual Ina's viewer retention is good.

>> No.6768844

>>6768748
>Garena
I'm always stumbling on this and they have massive views and VODs but I know nothing about this except it seems to be some free to play game.
Anyone knows WTF is Garena?

>> No.6768864

>>6768748
Sutopuri... I kneel...

>> No.6768899

Oof, Kiara babe, you should stop... while you're ahead.

>> No.6768948

>>6768843
>As usual Ina's viewer retention is good.
Why is this? All the ENs have a strong core fanbase that always stick around, so I assume it's because her streams are often comfy and the kind you can leave on as background noise?

>> No.6768992

>>6768439
Not including streamlabs , unless you stay there and counting it yourself then you will never know the real numbers what HoloID got.

>> No.6769008
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>>6768748
SCs are a different matter. It's mostly Vtubers. Count is still off.

>> No.6769173
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Holodex released some numbers they compiled about Hololive

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>>6769173
part 2

>> No.6769205

>>6768837
Indeed. It's good to see a list like this once in a while to track how V-tubing is vs the rest of the livestreaming sphere.
>>6768948
If you tune into Ina, you're tuning in to experience a chill time which is easier to stick around for(is my best guess). Also, she doesn't do SC readings so her numbers are going to stay high throughout the stream.

>> No.6769249

>>6769173
4k clips to 42k clips. Hot damn. The rabbit hole is inevitable.

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>>6768899
she had a birthday 2 weeks ago. this fall is not surprising.

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>> No.6769293

>>6769249
If you count from sorairo days it's 6 -> 42k clips

>> No.6769333

>>6769173
What are the numbers in the bottom right, superchats? I'm interested who the top ones mainly donated to.

>> No.6769342

What do you guys think if cover/enikara starts capitalazing drama for numbers?
The idea itself is obviously not alien to online content/streamers in general be it independent or affiliated.
Would these sorts of thing work as a long-term strategy considering they are still a corporate based on Japan?

For example, lets say cover identified festival's twitter meltdown as an opportunity to organize and auddvertise a sort of grudge match between haachama and her (in minecraft of course).
While this may be bring in numbers, would such an approach be considered 'innovative' or 'greedy/exploitative'.
And does it even matter if it ultimately brings them better numbers.

>> No.6769365

>>6769342
Hololive become wrestling

>> No.6769392

>>6769365
We already have that here in /vt/

>> No.6769398

>>6769365
It already is, to some extent.

>> No.6769423

>>6769333
Translated Lines from JP->EN in the last month.

(This is a goddamn case of READ THE FUCKING INFOGRAPHIC YOU TARD, (YOU) deserve this, dumbass)

Des P. being a workhorse as usual dang.

>> No.6769426

>>6769342
Kyo ani Electric Boogaloo.

>> No.6769460

>>6769342
Matsuri's twitter meltdown is a planned event to hype up Haachama's return as part of JP gen 6 leading a bunch of other ex-chuubas who each have an ax to grind against existing holos, like Sio vs Roboco, Aloe vs gen 5, Chris vs Yagoo etc.

>> No.6769464

>>6769342
I don't think Cover will capiltalize on that kind of thing. Coco surely was denied any chance to do so when she asked. She said she wanted to make some jokes about her spam thing. Nijis won't do as much. A lot of them won't even comment about Lulu. Many didn't even discussed Gibara's graduation. Nips don't like drama getting attached to their name since people are prejudiced enough about you being a Vtuber or even being a Youtuber.

>> No.6769480

>>6769342
That's an interesting take anon but both enikara and cover are too popular to rely on that low end tactic. They only used it for someone/something that fall into irrelevancy

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>>6769285
niji data

>> No.6769505

>>6769423
The formatting on that part fucked me up. But yeah I'll admit I'm retarded too.

>> No.6769532

>>6769460
That would be fucking kino af. Added in HoloCN vs. Gen4 and it'll be perfect.

>> No.6769535

>>6769487
Huh, Meiro might've been on track to become a Lulu-tier liver if that incident didn't happen.

>> No.6769563

>>6769285
The lasting increase in August and beyond seems to suggest that HoloJP gen 5 had some impact in enhancing average views across the board, doesn't it?

>> No.6769609

>>6769535
Damn, kinda irritated on that lost opportunity, her numbers were good

>> No.6769628

>>6769487
Time to compare the new JP wave to this standard to see if Anycolor really expanded

>> No.6769638

>>6769563
They've debuted and had debut buff for some time. Isn't it obvious?

>> No.6769675

>>6769487
Look at numbers, somehow Nijisanji doesn't have good regeneration to replace old guards

>> No.6769683

>>6769638
They don't drag down the average back to pre-debut levels even after the debut buff wears off. Meanwhile you can see the Selejo debuts for Niji's 2020 batch had pretty much no influence at all.

>> No.6769696

>>6769535
She was the fastest ever niji to 100k subs until Elira beat her record iirc. Seems like Petra is on course to break it again but I don't know the exact figures

>> No.6769704

>>6769683
Bad example. Their debut were dragged down by powerpro finals so they barely got any attention for their debuts.

>> No.6769713

>>6769683
Their new batch are gonna have it rough.
Nijibaseball and olympics right after they debut.

>> No.6769781

>>6769713
Yea....that's a rather causal "Fuck ya, you're on your own" way to send em out to the world isn't it.

Eh, they'll either find their feet or fade into irrelevance, the Niji way.

All these debuts right around now definitely strongly suggests (though not 100%) that we're seeing a new Holo Gen (probably EN) sooner rather than later.

>> No.6769805

>>6769704
It's not just the debut though, the graph is up to June 2021. The NijiJP average is not much better than where it started while the HoloJP average is significantly higher at the end.

>> No.6769809

>>6769713
Horrible debut time aswell

>> No.6769812

>>6769535
Wasted opportunity really. If only her idol didn't get jelly, she would have been huge.

>> No.6769817

>>6769713
Would it have been better if Niji debuted them a month earlier and then let them take part in baseball?

>> No.6769892

>>6769817
?First week - Olympic finals
>Second week - Baseball niji finals
>Month of August - Tons of HoloJP anniversaries
>EN 2 Debut
>JP 6 Audition announcement
They're dead anyway, 1-5k views. Cover could kick their corpses again if they had a 3D debut of a holostar member

>> No.6770058

>>6769892
Hololive doesn’t announce auditions for JP. Their auditions are always open.

>> No.6770088

>>6770058
>Their auditions are always open
Why is that?

>> No.6770109

>>6770088
Allows them to drop a gen at any time.

>> No.6770127

>>6769892
I would've thought that if they get to play baseball they'd get boosted to 20k-30k viewers for that month and at least some of them would stick around afterwards.

>> No.6770209

>>6770127
In the case of Hololive, it'd be like that. After a large event, for example Usaken, they would click on their channel to watch their POV of the event. But baseball event is more or less centered around 8 popular livers playing a baseball game. New viewers/tourists/fans would alternate around them rather than watch the new debuts. They could watch them, but it probably won't stick after a while.

>> No.6770280

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY9aovw3zhw
The dog is back, so much for that holofag talking point

>> No.6770307

>>6770280
She has been "back" as in on Chima's stream

>> No.6770337

>>6770280
Sorry this is the numbers thread, not the shill your irrelevant niji thread

>> No.6770427

>>6768837
this list does not count any Vshojo. Useless.

>> No.6770447

>>6770337
The thread where some holofag (probably you) were going on about the dog all the time because she was on a break for health problems, faggot

>> No.6770466

>>6770447
Why are nijiniggers so insecure?

>> No.6770486

>>6770447
You mean the entire board?

>> No.6770514

>>6770466
>>6770486
Why are holoniggers such subhumans that they use a sick girl for their faggot shitposting? Well too bad you can't use it anymore shitbags

>> No.6770517

>>6770447
did people shit on shiba for having poor numbers? here, have some things to justify your anger. I guess this is a numbers thread so we should shit on her numbers if you're going to bring her up. it's a comeback stream but wow that's one low comeback. everyone's streaming over it too, guess her fellow nijis don't care she's back either.

>> No.6770528

>>6770514
Seethe

>> No.6770540

>>6770517
Nah holoniggers were going on about how nijisanji vtubers don't make enough money because she was in the hospital for a few months because of health issues, holoniggers are truly subhuman

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>>6770280
>less than 4k for a comeback stream
This is just sad

>> No.6770551

>>6770517
Don’t think she really got shat on the number board specifically. Usually it was in one of the bait split threads.

>> No.6770557

>>6770546
Enough to make a living :)

>> No.6770564

>>6770514
>go into numbers thread
>Bitch about holoniggers
Rent free

>> No.6770584

>>6770564
Seethe

>> No.6770588
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>>6770447
>>6770514
lets get the timeline straight, nijinigger
>YOU bring up dog trying to shit on miko for not letting them leech her
>dog gets shat on in return
>omg why is dog getting shit you're so mean

>> No.6770591

ever since hiyoko died, I think holo numbers have been lower, if it's not a special stream like rushia's 3D live yesterday, some of the holos have been losing to nijis.

>> No.6770599

>>6770514
The real subhumans are her supposed friends and coworkers who hung her out to dry and told her to ask her fans for money. Thank god for her fans stepping up and giving her enough money for her medical needs, the company would've let her die on the streets otherwise.

>> No.6770610

>>6770557
Sure. Afterall, she can just buy a cardboard box somewhere to sleep in :)

>> No.6770617

>>6770280
>>6770447
>>6770514
At least talk about the numbers you obese retard. less than 4k on return after 6 months break is pathetic but that's 4 times more than what this niji typically gets.

>> No.6770624

>>6770540
>going on about how nijisanji vtubers don't make enough money because she was in the hospital for a few months because of health issues
Not really, trolls were trolling about how Nijisanji doesn't pay a fixed wage, and other trolls added
>at least Nijisanji pays a good private health insurance for their streamers so they don't get in financial trouble for having health issues

I don't think they were talking about the streamer at all

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>another episode of holofags fighting with a another holofag falseflagging
Great thread faggots, talk about numbers.

>> No.6770643 [DELETED] 

>>6770588
Nah let's get it straight
>holoniggers: hurrdurrr if you don't get 30k viewers you're bankrupt and starving
>that's retarded, 1k is enough to make a living, no one is in danger of going bankrupt
>holoniggers: HURRDURRR THEN WHAT ABOUT THE DOG HUH WHY DOESN'T SHE STREAM HUH? THAT MEANS THEY DON'T MAKE ENOUGH MONEY (somehow)
>she was in hospital
>HURRDURRR SEETHE COPE [insert buzzword]
>she's back
>holoniggers cope and seethe
>>6770610
Seethe and cope

>> No.6770646

>>6770591
>if the biggest number was not there the smaller numbers would be bigger than the rest
This is the numbers thread, not the "alternative universe" thread non.

>> No.6770656

>>6770637
another episode of nigjiniggers of trying to blame their retards on holofags

>> No.6770662

>>6770646
nah, yesterday they were pretty weak, besides for Rushia.

>> No.6770666

>>6770617
Cope holonigger cope
>>6770624
Yeah they were, saying how if streaming made enough money she would stream, from the hospital, somehow, retard holoniggers

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>>6770643
you sound upset, anon

>> No.6770689

Your next shitpost will be: "cope ____fag/nigger"

>> No.6770691

>>6770667
No u

>> No.6770733
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>>6770662
like clockwork

>> No.6770745 [DELETED] 

>>6770599
Keep on coping holonigger, your talking point was always retarded, eat shit you cunt

>> No.6770754
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Bottom of niji rising up because of baseball.

>> No.6770763

>>6770666
>saying how if streaming made enough money she would stream, from the hospital,
That was not what I read, what I read was
>if she had a fixed monetary compensation she would be in a better financial position when not streaming

>> No.6770768

>>6770745
>>6770689
Like clockwork

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>>6770637
What site is this, seems to be missing a couple of streams

>> No.6770799

>>6770763
Backpeddling holonigger, your point was that nijisanji vtubers don't make enough money and that's why she wasn't streaming, from the hospital, fucking retards
>>6770768
Like copework

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>>6770799
>your point
Have you tried to take your meds anon? You seem to be confusing the voices in your head with the anons presently discussing numbers in this thread

>> No.6770823

Don't feed the shitposter, anons. You know better.

>> No.6770828

>>6770799
Nijiniggers and being insecure, name a more iconic duo

>> No.6770829

>>6770813
You seem to be backpeddling because your retarded talking point is completely gone now

>> No.6770846

>>6770828
Holochads and wining

>> No.6770847 [DELETED] 

>>6770828
Holoniggers and being retarded cunts, that's a more iconic duo

>> No.6770849

>>6770823
this. just report them for spam

>> No.6770858

>>6769892
Have the Holostars been mogging Nijimales now? I don't know much about them and now that Vnuma is dead there's no way to know how the Nijimales are doing either.

>> No.6770871

>>6770849
>mods
>Doing anything on /vt/
Ha ha good joke

>> No.6770872 [DELETED] 

>>6770846
*whining
>>6770849
>ablooboo someone shat on my retarded talking point
Cry more faggot

>> No.6770895

>>6770828
Nijiniggers and seething

>> No.6770902

>>6770858
lolno, nijimales have been getting 30-40k viewers the last few days and holostars are happy to break 1k

>> No.6770914

>>6770517
>>6770546
What the fuck is wrong with Nijisanji? There's no way Holomems would ever do this to Haachama's comeback.

>> No.6770929

>>6770895
>>6770914
Keep on coping, too bad you can't use a sick girl for your retarded talking point anymore shitbags

>> No.6770931

>>6770858
Nijimales is a very wide net to cast, their males can range from 300 to 30,000. Holodex has a Nijisanji option, you can use that to check who's streaming.

>> No.6770949

>>6770828
lmao, holofags make bait threads about niji every single day, come the fuck on.

>> No.6770958

>>6770858
Ignoring the retarded samefag for a bit, I thought the homos were low-mid tier to high-low tier compared to Nijis overall? Shit, some of them tend to be on par with NijiEN in views most of the time.

>> No.6770964

>>6770914
what did you think Manjisanji was a joke?

>> No.6770971

>>6770058
I'm curious about Polka. Do you think her Legends of Polka is a bid to get her to join Hololive? I mean she has her own staff working for her. If that show don't get sponsors, I don't know how they will pay those people. I love the show. I want it to run for a long time. The last episode about the staff and their mothers is just hilarious to me.

>> No.6770996

>>6770858
Of course not, retard. Homos are stuck with 500 views.

>> No.6771013
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>>6770964
It's nijimanji

>> No.6771028

>>6770949
Clearly those are holofags not falseflagging nijiniggers, get real

>> No.6771049

>>6771028
Are you falseflagging now?

>> No.6771057

>>6770958
>some
Astel Izuru and Roberu can compete with NijiEN on a bad day. Kuzuha? No way. Hajime? Holostars shits all over him with ease.

>> No.6771063

>>6771049
I don't know, am O?

>> No.6771086

>>6770958
Don't be ridiculous, the homos are stuck under 1k views, EN is always above that.

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>>6771086
Are they?

>> No.6771158

>>6771133
>1.1k
Homofag...good for you...

>> No.6771162
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Anyway, I found it interesting that you have the option to sub a YT channel by clicking their link. This is one of the new livers I opened from their twitter page.

>>6770958
Homos are around 500-3k, but they've been inclining the past months. Niji male debut is gonna kill a lil bit of their momentum, but they'll get back up 2-3 after niji new debuts. They already have a fanbase. Much better numbers than nijiKR and nijiID. Hololive brand is helping them a bit.

>>6770971
Legend of Polka is doing fine. 5-9k live views every premier and steadily inclining. Needs more time for it to blow up, but it's worth the effort.

>> No.6771195

>>6771162
How new, this has been a function for years

>> No.6771208

>>6771128
YEAH TAKE THAT NIJIKEKS

>> No.6771241

>>6771128
Sentan charting huh
Good for him

>> No.6771255
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>>6770958
nah, they aren't, starsfags are just making shit up

>> No.6771259

>>6771158
So appearently you're blind too

>> No.6771289

>>6771128
>Pekora playing a random game that's been covered by plenty of holos
>Still TWICE the viewers of Nijicuck's biggest event of the year
That's just sad

>> No.6771303

>>6771162
I mean sure 5-7k live views with total views of 150k-400k per episode is decent for a solo act but she has a staff though. She has a scriptwriter and such. This is not feasible in the long run.

>> No.6771305

>>6771289
>shitposting the bottom of niji that is having the time of her life with the best numbers she ever got
Heartless...

>> No.6771307

>>6771289
>biggest event
That is one of the most literal who females making her team. Come back in August when finals happen.

>> No.6771315

>>6771195
I didn't notice them all that much. I've tried opening on Pomu's twitter, but it doesn't work. I haven't subscribed to her. It got a lil bit annoying trying to chart the liver's sub numbers hours after their announcement to see if they could beat the first boss, Ankimo. That announcement also received 91K likes, 54.6K retweets and 400+ comments as compared to IRyS's announcement.

>> No.6771327

>>6771128
I recall Kanata's number was around 17K, why did the website cut it?

>> No.6771340

>>6771327
This is only currently airing streams, not the top streams of the past 24 hours like vnuma. There is a reason why we didn't use this site before vnuma went down.

>> No.6771349

>>6769675
Either they have skills to keep entertaining their fans or their fans not consisted bandwagoner fake fans.

>> No.6771362

>>6771340
Well this sucks, any alternative?

>> No.6771383

>>6771162
>Hololive brand is helping them a bit.
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT AN IRONY
Hololive is the reason they're at the bottom

>> No.6771414

>>6771327
because anybody posting that list is retarded. It is showing current live numbers at the very moment of the picture, not avg nor max live numbers - which makes it either dumb or prone to easy manipulation - like taking the picture when pekora is done her MK or kanata just reading scs.

>> No.6771415

>>6771315
It has to be manually generated by whoever is posting the link.

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>>6771128

>> No.6771431

>>6771383
They literally ran ads on holo streams. The nijiEN fanbase are yesterday's EOP holofags who are bored with the same 5 whores.

>> No.6771440

>>6771383
By a bit, that anon meant some audience who's okay with male vtubers would leak to them especially female ones. They're

>> No.6771448

>>6771162
>I found it interesting that you have the option to sub a YT channel by clicking their link
Porn thots were doing that years ago, it’s the whole reason YouTube asks you to confirm

>> No.6771450

>>6771431
And how's that a reason that homostars are kept in their own small cage compared to other Hololive Production members?

>> No.6771465

>>6771450
It's the samefag shitposter. Ignore him.

>> No.6771537

>>6771450
Stars are kept off for their own safety if you want to be blunt about it.
If Cover started forcing mixed collabs the fanbase of the girls would go after them.
Just look at how stars were received early on.

>> No.6771591

>>6771537
They were received this way early on because everybody were instructed to pretend that they don't exist. And that's why they still mostly exist in vacuum while being mercilessly pushed by english fans

>> No.6771602

>>6768899
Half her streams this week were SC readings trying to catch up with the Birthday SCs.

>> No.6771643
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>>6770754
basboll

>> No.6771647

>>6771417
You know Jun funny enough was check YT channels and saw Kiryu Coco and then nonchalantly said Kson right? Kek It's at 3:54:40 mark. If normies didn't know who Coco was before. They know now.

https://youtu.be/eBYYY6qBO9w

>> No.6771677

>>6771602
She should learn from Ayame, Korone, Haachama and other fast readers
>Anon-senpai arigatou!
>Haaton-senpai arigatou!
>Joe, John, Dan, Sam senpai thank you!
I think either their manager or some software prepares an excel with name and message so they can optimize it.

OTOH what keeps Kiara, Lamy, Rushia and Watame is the attention to the SC so more power to them

>> No.6771692

>>6771677
It's an open secret. Why is it related with numbers?

>> No.6771699

>>6771647
How famous is she in JP before her stint at hololive?

>> No.6771719

>>6771692
Meant this for the above comment

>> No.6771727

>>6771692
>Why is it related with numbers?
SC numbers is a recurring theme in this thread

>> No.6771732

>>6771699
maybe a 100 viewers, mostly foreign too

>> No.6771737

>>6768844
Don't know if it's the same Garena but they used to run (still run?) competitive servers for hardcore esports fags in a bunch of online games, I remember them mostly from my Warcraft 3 days but I think they also had Counter Strike severs and some other shit, so if it's that Garena it's probably general esports stuff for a bunch of different games

>> No.6771751

>>6771727
>You know Jun funny enough was check YT channels and saw Kiryu Coco and then nonchalantly said Kson right
Nah, I mean it's just a guy talking about Coco's roommate on stream. How is that related to numbers?

>> No.6771770

>>6771751
You replied to the wrong post then.

>> No.6771772

>>6771677
Their SC reading streams are basically zatsudans for their fans.

>> No.6771779

>>6771677
That doesn't really work with the way she does SC readings, and her SC readings are a major part of why she is making as much money as she is.

>> No.6771808

>>6771751
He get 100k views on the regular. He was essentially looking at the most subbed channels in JP. He also said on the same stream that she loves Pekora but doesn't know Korone when they saw them. It's a big promo.

>> No.6771818

>>6771770
Yeah. > >>6771719

>> No.6771844

>>6769365
Kiara, we need your experience

>> No.6771854

>>6771808
This is above 120k live views. It's a boost if I've ever seen one.

>> No.6771856

>>6771808
Reminds me of the Jun being Pekoras boyfriend shitposts.
That’s a big compliment from someone huge in Japan.

>> No.6771918 [DELETED] 

It's really great while watching Gura playing a game and manifesting her voice in my head - One of my favorite situations is to also be looking at lewd art of her bending over or sitting with her legs apart, especially displaying her feet, and imagine i'm giving it to her really good and hard and she wants me to play with her feet but I refuse to. She keeps urgently begging to get creampied or have her feet played with, and she moans harder for it the closer she gets, but I never give her what she wants.

I also like to switch streams to another EN girl before I cum, and imagine I've denied Gura and make her watch as I impregnate her friends instead. It's excellent.

Also, talking down to her all this time, telling her how pathetic and socially retarded she is, and how she could have a better life if she wasn't such a meme obsessed overly shy weirdo. I like to tell her i'd sooner spit on her than cum in her. She hates it and cries, but it just makes her want it even more

>> No.6771981

>>6771856
Well they are the king and queen of streaming in Japan. Pekora has it better since it's hard for people to doxx her location. She can grow without having to worry about stalkers whereas a female streamer would have it rough trying to prevent themselves from getting stalked.

>> No.6772131

>>6771856
>shitposts

>> No.6772206

>>6770828
Nijiniggers and cope

>> No.6772309
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>>6771808

coco is a popular nnd content creator before this vtuber gig. same reason for this girl.

>> No.6772480

>>6770427
>thinking twitch doesn't have a playboard equivalent
>thinking VShojo is relevant enough in the numbers thread for people tocare if they are on the list or not
>needing to be spoonfed info
Go to twitchtracker and compile the list for the chuubas that you care about, retard.

>> No.6772493

>>6772309
Give them niggas a break. They are as much a closet weeb as you and me so it's a given they like cunny like a weeb should

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>mentions Haachama
>viewers dip by ~20%

>> No.6772654

>>6772574
Jokes aside, what happened there? The viewers are quicklky returning back to the same level so, guruguru?

>> No.6772662

>>6772574
probably some stream lag, shes back at 20k live

>> No.6772676

>>6772654
Probably a YT problem. Again. FAQ Youtube, get your shit together.

>> No.6772764

>>6772574
She mentioned a male and everyone left.
YouTube always shitting itself, wonder if it’ll ever become a decent streaming site.

>> No.6772808

>>6772764
Considering they would rather fuck up their live viewer counts instead of fixing the many issues the youtube livestream system has, such as the ram devouring chat, I don't fancy that happening anytime soon.

>> No.6772985

>>6771255
Last time I checked him, Aruran used to hover around 200 what happened?

>> No.6773017

>>6772985
>what happened
Failed blue Umpalumpa chase, taking even longer than Kanata (which helped to draw comparison and attention to them)

>> No.6773036

>>6772808
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/396532-youtube-live-cpu-tamer

>> No.6773075

>>6773036
That's not the point, the point is that the pajeets working on youtube's code aren't even familiar enough with their product to know what improvements are most sought after, instead focusing their efforts on stuff nobody asked for

>> No.6773170

>>6773036
You pretty much proved that anon point for him.

If internet retards can cobble up a greasefork script that solves the issue without access to the source code or access to the mind sof the six digits salaried "top of their field" indian engineers whose value for Google is so big they lobby the United States to maintain a "genius immigration visa" (H1B) specifically to jump them in the immigration line, then Google should also be easily able.

Instead they prioritized
>removing dislikes from videos

>> No.6773255
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>Suisei making it to the big league
Granted it is under the bloke's name feat. Suisei but even then

>> No.6773262

>>6773017
Anyone knows the statistical chances that he hasn't gotten one yet despite the chances being 1/1200 and he already breed over 3000 of those?

>> No.6773284

>>6773262
Not really because the underling mechanism of reproduction is not public, is it?
Maybe he figured out which umpas that have zero chance of spawining a blue and is breeding those exclusively.

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>>6773262
>>6773284
With that said some autist hand counted all of Flare attempts

>> No.6773339

>>6773316
>Flare
Kanata. Flare is living rent free in my mind for some reason

>> No.6773407

>>6770786
ikioi-ranking

>> No.6773491

https://www.vtuber-ct.net/en/channels?f&g
This site looks interesting

>> No.6773505

>>6773255
That 'bloke' is Taku Inoue, a well seasoned composer who used to work in a ton of Idolmaster +Bamco stuff.

Consider the following (Taken from their interview at his Debut DJ thing, which is translated on YT)
>Taku Inoue was watching Suisei's karaoke streams and has been doing so for a while
>On deciding on a debut single, he reached out to her specifically to work on this.
>Suisei also had a track produced for her album coming out in September

Suisei has been putting in her reps, and the results have been coming in big ever since Ghost was released.
(Thanks GraphAnon and the anon who asked the important question "What caused Suisei's Incline?")

>> No.6773517

>>6769173
If EN2 debut this month, then it's not impossible to generate 100k clips by the end of this year.

>> No.6773794

>>6773284
If I recall correctly, it is 1/1200 chance to spawn a blue one, if it fails it is 50/50 chance to get either parent's color

>> No.6774354

>>6773505
>Suisei also had a track produced for her album coming out in September
Gotta handle the very contested "strongest idol" mantle to her. Hard working as fuck, straight as an arrow and built her career from ground up

>> No.6774535

>>6774354
All without covers help, apart from the new avatar and 3D shit

>> No.6774709

>>6774535
Cover really is carried hard by the hard work of their own talents.
I think they just act as the publisher for their music with talents getting most of the money right?

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>>6774535
>apart from the new avatar and 3D shit
That's "Cover help" anon.

Here is Suisei 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv8zKTcXGwU

Here is Suisei 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiG-_eLqAcM

Here is Suisei 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajwv4ANSSg0&t=1820s

Cover deserves a lot of criticism but "without covers help" is not a fair one.
Having talent doesn't mean much, lots of very talented people waitressing and waiting for their chances.
Having talent **and** access to resources to have that talent shine is the reason for success

>> No.6774997

With Marine taking a break because of her voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOyZvsyeS18
where will her numbers "trickle down"?

Is there any streamer **below** Marine in numbers (meaning everybody but Pekora) that would benefit from getting some exposure from her audience?

>> No.6775026

>>6774848
Where they’re at now they basically give everyone instant exposure to potentially hundreds of thousands to millions of people.

>> No.6775063

>>6774997
Marine interacts frequently with so many holos that I think it will be hard to notice her viewers gravitating in any particular direction, but 3rd gen will probably benefit the most.

>> No.6775122

>>6775063
A lot about a streamer is the regularity of the schedule as well. When Haachama stopped streaming regularly at the hours move convenient to me (and then at all) I ended up taking a look at the other streamers in the same time slot and got eventually snagged by Choco and Roboco making cute noises on APEX

>> No.6775185

>>6775122
Well, Marine typically streams during JP prime time, so that doesn't narrow it down too much.

>> No.6775290

>>6775122
Kanata or Flare i guess, but yeah, it depends on when and what they stream.
Marine's been out for a week before but i couldn't tell if anyone took over her audience, or if they just sat waiting for her.

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6775676

Why are Niji posters seething? The flop of NijiCN?

>> No.6775708

>>6775676
The legendary Nijicope

>> No.6775709

>>6775676
>Posts this with a chuuba that has a huge chinese fanbase.
Kill yourself.

>> No.6775741

>>6775676
When are niji posters ever not seething?

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>>6775676
>Oreo shake
To bring this back into the numberfag realm, this shake she's drinking has about
>2600 Kcal
It is way over the daily calory intake need for a small asian woman.

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>>6774848
Suisei really is a stellar example of how exposure matters. Sure, she's gotten better at streaming and singing, but she is still doing pretty much the same type of stuff in the same way as she was in 2018. If you like her now, you'd have liked her back then. Yet she was the least subscribed Holo until shortly before Hololive funneled all their viewers into her 3D debut and after that she has been a Top 20 vtuber with the exception of last autumn when she was on break from streaming – which happened because outside offers kept coming after that concert so much so she overbooked herself.

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SOON...

>> No.6776135
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>Hasn't streamed for six days
>Still gains 10k subs a day
How does she do it?

>> No.6776207

>>6776135
Simple, people watched her VODs and subbed.

>> No.6776239

>>6775998
its weird how the EN i find the least interesting manages to be the second most subbed one. is it the power of music?

>> No.6776253

>>6776239
Pretty fucking much.

>> No.6776269

>>6776135
Aglorithm, word of mouth, people see big sub number and "wowow popular" and click it. She could not stream for 6 months and still gain these subs without an issue.

>> No.6776274

>>6774535
Suisei’s singles and album were sponsored by cover

>> No.6776319

>>6769190
What is ZH?

>> No.6776379

>>6776319
Chinese
>>6776269
Fans are also pumping out shorts and those are getting hundreds of thousands of views.

>> No.6776410

>>6776135
MUSIC BUFF is real.

YouTube LOVES original music on their platform. Throw in the fact that it's both rather unique for a Hololive original and it's Gura's first original, and it likely gets recommended heavily to anyone who clicks on anything anime related.

Then people watch clips. And then subscribe.

Also, at least for that tracker, it only ticks up by 10k amounts so she could be getting 7k+ for 3 days and or would throw +10k on two of those days.

Gura is absolutely blessed by the algorithm, between clips, memes, model and name.

>> No.6776425

>>6769173
Bros. How do I even watch close to the amount of content being produced every second. Every second of existing if feels like hours of content is being produced at the same moment.

>> No.6776571

>>6769173
How can nijis even compete

>> No.6776593

>>6776410
That said.
How many of the NijiEN are musically inclined?
Maybe a lucky hit would kick start their own buff.

>> No.6776616

>>6776410
Unironically this. I saw a few YT comments asking for what anime this is.

>> No.6776631

>>6776425
You don't.
Pick one or two chubba to follow. You'll know who to do when you decide they're your Oshi.

For the rest, you can catch important streams or collabs, and if you're desperate, watch some clips.
>>6776274
Some of them were, but I doubt all of them. Suisei isn't under the vsinger label since she transferred out of INNK, so outside of some sponsored milestone events, she likey follows the same rules as the rest for original music, which is you pay out of pocket.

>> No.6776799

>>6776319
(Zh)ang language

>> No.6776863
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>>6776269
>people see big sub number and "wowow popular" and click it
I agree with the others but not with this otherwise Kizuna would be growing at the same pace and Kaguya Luna subs wouldn't be walking backwards.

Funny tidbit about an adjacent field that I happen to follow: Kaguya used to have as much cosplays of her as Kizuna at their both peaks including, no, SPECIALLY in Hong Kong and Taiwan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnY9BGVEWxI

"Big sub numbers, click" is most definitely not a factor, inactivity can kill the momentum even of the highest subbed streamers.

>> No.6776955

>>6776239
Song buff is very strong.
Especially when it starts topping some charts.
IRyS topped some charts, too.

>> No.6777069

>>6776799
Why did we start calling them Zhangs anyways? Is Zhang somehow particular to mainland chinks?

>> No.6777223

>>6777069
>Why did we start calling them Zhangs anyways
Chinks and ching chongs were already taken by /pol/ and this place needed something different.

>> No.6777266

>>6777069
They're all called Zhang over there. Think of one chink and I bet he's called Zhang. Even Jackie Chan's mandarin name is Zhang

>> No.6777268
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>>6777069
Ah, it is also the 2 letter ISO code for their language

>> No.6777287

>>6777069
Same reason we used to call German Hans, it's a common name and it's less outwardly racist so you can potentially use it in polite company.

>> No.6777348

>>6777266
That's why I was wondering if it was specific to mainlanders, Chan seems to be a lot more common for overseas/hong kong chinks.

>> No.6777433

>>6776593
they made a whole teddyloid song for the new gen, although it's not terribly standout as a teddyloid song

>> No.6777517

https://panora.tokyo/archives/30125
Weekly VOD numbers, more Nijis on the list than usual and they took the #1 spot.

>> No.6777555

>>6774848
>>6775905
To take it one step further, Cover being willing to transfer her from INNK to Hololive proper is definitely "Cover help". They could've just made her see out her contract while just doing the bare minimum for her, and then dumped her back into the depths of the indie abyss.

>> No.6777607

>>6777517
Dunno why’d you put a video that got played on ads on the list but whatever.
Surprised that the bath stream beat baseball though.

>> No.6777655

>>6777555
In that one Suisei documentary video I think she said that Yagoo and A-Chan (or maybe just A-chan) helped to get her transferred.

>> No.6777730

>>6777517
They spent at least a million to shill that teaser onto vtuber videos.
Oh, there's also that ad for a white-haired male ENVtuber.

>> No.6777738

>>6777607
Bath steam is shorter and has been up longer which helps.
Trailer vid with ads kinda means comparing that to the rest is a bit hilarious though.

>> No.6777826

>>6777517
>https://panora.tokyo/archives/30125
I don't understand part of this. What kind of metric are they using to calculate? Pekora's Minecraft video from 5 days ago had 20k more VOD views and is 30 mins less than Ib's minecraft video. And then, there's that Blackout video. Did it had ads now? I could've sworn It was around 77k views after 12 hours of release, then it gets 233k views, almost reaching the same growth rate as IRyS's cover.

>> No.6777923

>>6777826
I forgot to add. I watched both numbers for IRyS's cover which was iirc 150k or 180k and Blackout video at 77k. To see blackout reach 215k (correction) and that IRyS's cover got 248k is sus.

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>>6768224

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>>6777517
>they took the #1 spot
By a fucking long shot

>> No.6778081

>>6778060
That's number is clearly incorrect. Still more than #2.

>> No.6778161

>>6778081
Oh wait they've just posted it twice. The right number is 1471984.

>> No.6778172

>>6778060
I wonder how much 14 trillion views cost

>> No.6778176

>>6778081
I know. Just want to point it out.

>> No.6778510

>>6777965
I miss vnuma.

>> No.6778538

>>6777517
How come they don't count song videos but do count trailers.
Do they count a 10 second shit post?

>> No.6778742

>>6778538
Just checked the previous weeks and they do count song videos.

>> No.6778781
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6778781

I guess Gura is back for some more numbers

>> No.6778919

>>6778781
>singing kusoge
Yeah, I won't count on it that much. 15-20k. She needs to practice a bit more in other games so she could finish the ones she haven't. I mean, DMC and Metroid can be finished at some point if you try hard enough like Kanata. I barely passed a Dark souls level after 12 hours. There's no shame in being bad at games. She just needs to stop entertaining her chat every damn second.

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I hope Gura finishes the game in one sitting.

And I think it's the first time I seen HoloEN overlap with the same game on individual streams.

Maybe Gura will stop playing once IRyS starts and that is why Gura is starting earlier than usual.

>> No.6779167

>>6778919
>Metroid can be finished at some point if you try hard enough
Gura doesn’t care about it, and apparently, neither does her audience. She’s not that kind of streamer.
>There's no shame in being bad at games. She just needs to stop entertaining her chat every damn second.
I think you misunderstanding something, because entertaining her chat is exactly the kind of streamer she wants to be.

>> No.6779369

>>6779160
I would be surprised if she doesn't stop when Irys starts. It would be a rough first interaction otherwise, and Gura seems more considerate even if the cumbuds themselves aren't.

>> No.6779370
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>>6777655
>In that one Suisei documentary video
Lots of people don't know but this one fan made documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ87zuPkqMs
( I think it is this one, at least) is the reason many fell into the rabbit hole for good after circling around the rim on "cute anime girl said nigger" clips for a while.
This one, that for a while ALWAYS got recommended after the "What can Suisei do in 20 seconds on Tetris", is one of the proofs that
>you can't really buy the viral quality only a true fan can produce.

Funniest thing is that the clip market was pretty much cornered by the zhangs of Hololive Moments, which IIRC had more subs than many of the talents back then.
Then their glass heart took an arrow to the knee, they ragequit and all of sudden the a HUGE SUCKING VACUUM waiting to be filled by clippers from all around the world appeared.

One of the reasons for Gen 5 and EN success was the fact that, with the largest unified source of clips having disappeared and almost all of the past videos from the girls having likewise (because of copyright and the Capcom strikes on Mio)
>everybody new had to rediscover each girl right then and there, from their present achievements
Whatever they did right then and there was what counted, most of the past had been erased and all that was left was living the moment.

It is hard to describe to newcoming numberfags the hold Matsuri, Fubuki and Aqua (and to a point, Haachama) had in the early days of clipping, mostly because they were the absolute favorites of the zhangs doing the legwork of clipping and translating.
I'll try to illustrate that with one image
>pic related
It has the CURRENT number of subs for the top 4 girls on Bilibili.
One year has passed and each of these girls lost about half the subs they had there and yet, the GHOST of their accounts still have a fuckton of subs.
More than that: Aqua and Fubuki videos there still had, in the past 30 days, more views than Anya on Youtube and about the same as Mel.
Whoever were the favorites of the chinese got most of the chinese made clips, chinese made fan work (some very very good like Holotaker), chinese made everything.

By having zhangs rage quit out of the market every girl had their slate clean and a chance to go to the top.
Pekora to a certain extent but Suisei definitely grabbed the chance by the unmentionables and became the power houses they are today.

Thanks for attending to my Ted Talk, if you like this video SMASH the like button

>> No.6779536

>>6779370
As always, Yagoo's s rank luck always pull through. If any other company were caught in this situation where thier biggest fan group threw a bitchfit and quit it would've completely shuttered their growth, but the zhangs just had to choose the moment after hololive truly exploded in the west to have their glass heart be shattered, and their actions if anything only ended up propelling Hololive to greater heights.

>> No.6779728

>>6779536
Yagoo stats numbers
>Max Luck
>Max Charisma
>Average Intelligence
>Below average physical strength

His isekai goddess granted him one bless and one curse

Bless
>he will assemble the most awesome harem of his earthly lifetime
Curse
>even considering the idea of touching any of them is grounds for losing everything and be cast out like a lowly Weinstein

>> No.6779768

>>6778919
She hasn't streamed for awhile.
I expect 20k at minimum.

>> No.6779923
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About ads and numbers, whoever is doing the purchases for this bra company IS A FUCKING GENIUS
Targetting Rushia streams is, at the surface, dumb because Rushia watchers are most likely than not
>not A or B cup girls
but the viral effect of tens of thousands of retards thinking it is the funniest joke to screencap this and post everywhere more than multiplies the reach of the campaign.

Hats off to whoever green lit that

>> No.6780050

>>6779370
That's actually a pretty interesting theory. My first exposure to hololive was a matsuri clip, but I haven't watched her since. I always blamed apex, but maybe I can blame the zhangs as well.

>> No.6780132

>>6779370
Remind me of the controversies of the time.
HLM tried everything it could to seem like the official clip channel. They also stole clips from other clippers and didn’t give credit.

>> No.6780140

>>6779923
they would only be a genius if the majority of rushia's audience were no-boob trannies (which they are)

>> No.6780149

>>6779370
So basically your thesis implies that zhangs were one of the main forces behind holo's penetration of the west market. The irony of that is so beautiful that I am believing this unconditionally from now on.

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am I the only who was exposed to hololive from fubuki singing western meme songs on her own channel?

>> No.6780301

>>6779536
He must have been born under a shooting star or something.
It’s unbelievable how many breaks he got.

>> No.6780408

>>6776631
She probably has signed a contract with a record label like sora. Welp we'll know for sure when the album drop.

>> No.6780595

>>6779369
Or she could've purposely starting 2h earlier so she has an excuse to end the stream early

>> No.6780754
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>>6780132
>HLM tried everything it could to seem like the official clip channel. They also stole clips from other clippers and didn’t give credit.
And used Hololive official logo, pushed for and verified "to distinguish from copycats" and not only stole clips but then resorted to copystrike clippers that used theirs "without permission".

The thing is: they didn't do anything different from what they were already doing on BIlibili, a plaform Cover JP had very few direct control (being at the hands of the CN managers) and where control of each of the talent official channels was delegated to fan translators.


>>6780050
>That's actually a pretty interesting theory.
>>6780149
>So basically your thesis implies that zhangs were one of the main forces behind holo's penetration of the west market
Not really a "theory", I'm stating that as a matter of fact.
Most contemporary knew back then "Hololive Moments" was easily the most impactful clipper channel, what most didn't know was that
>they were mostly chinese

One of their grievances that bubbled up when they took the stand they did was
>why are we investing all this time and effort creating english subbed clips and DOING IT FOR FREE when Cover clearly is siding with westerners on an issue that matters a lot for us
>while at it, why are we manning their official channels on Bilibili, also FOR FREE, and they don't even as much as acknowledge our demands

They then went "all in" and forced Cover to choose either the chinese market or the (back then barely existing) western market.
It is important to remember many of the girls (Haachama, for instance) had a live Bilibili stream on their regular schedule where they did the same
>Haachama speaking in cute broken english
thing for them, but in chinese
thing.
For instance: see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCdZCAEWR0

That all happened while their penetration in the west was at best an unknown ENTIRELY based on the very same zhang clippers manning their bilibili channels.

Then Cover did the most amazing thing and, with their just debutted EN branch CALLED THE ZHANGS ON THEIR "ALL IN" with their own and pulled out entirely from the chinese market, disbanded their branch and weathered off the total loss of any commercial relationship with any company even barely connected with China, even from products more western than zhang
>like MuseDash

It feels like it was a decade ago but not even a full year has passed. Hololive grew so much from September 2020 to now I can assume what I just described is ancient history for most of the dozen people reading it.

>> No.6780768

>>6780149
No one even denies that Zhangs were important in making Hololive popular in the west. They were the among the ones that ran some of the largest clip channels targeting English audiences. So why are you even remotely surprised by this?

>> No.6780789
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6780789

My based edgy dragon hitting 5k peak on APEX. No one can say Obysdia is a failure now. That's higher than anything besides Pomu's endurance singing stream.

>> No.6780882

>>6780789
Finally a good fucking gamer!

>> No.6780892

>>6780768
>They were the among the ones that ran some of the largest clip channels targeting English audiences
It was pretty much them and SEA because they were the only ones
>understanding japanese
>with a passing knowledge of english writing
Even to this day very few japanese run english clipping channels, it is all either SEA fellows or other ESL JSL speakers

>> No.6781023

>>6780754
>That all happened while their penetration in the west was at best an unknown
This is just show how lucky hololive is. This plus aloe incident can easily end them right there, right then plus coco's incident BUT holoEN happened, Gura happened, calli drop a massive remix competition right off her debut, and curry meshi concert gained a huge success and they are on their way to catch up, if not surpass, niji as the most popular vtuber group in japan and worldwide

>> No.6781048

>>6780892
Ofc it's the ESL. You'll never find a burger run a JSL clip channel

>> No.6781271

>>6781023
They still have a lot to work on the merchandising and sponsorship end if they want to catch up to Nijisanji.
Looking a lot better than last year though.

>> No.6781575

>>6779370
wasn't suisei also pretty popular in china? I think billibilli even funded Pieces for her, which is why it doesn't exist officially anymore...

>> No.6781726
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6781726

>>6780789
Update: 5.9k

Highest watched non-debut NijiEN of all time.

>> No.6782511

>>6781726
I dont know how often playboard updates, but it has it at 5.5k, but it might still be higher, like I am pretty sure Pomu´s God Knows got over 6k for a sec during her last song but on playboard it is also at 5.5k.

>> No.6782757

>>6782511
Yeah, Pomu's God Knows got just a hair over 6k during the final few songs, but since Playboard only takes liveview snapshots every 10 minutes, it wasn't captured there.

>> No.6783156
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6783156

>Those numbers
>with that subscriber count
>ON FUCKING YOUTUBE

Selen is too powerful

>> No.6783163
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6783163

>>6781575
>wasn't suisei also pretty popular in china?
Most of the top girls were. Here is the girls sorted by views on Bilibili, 10M+ views. The one that surprised me the most was
> Kanata
Never knew the zhangs liked her this much.

>> No.6783200

>>6781726
seems like it

>> No.6783216

>>6780789
Enjoy the apex niggers, they're well know for making a vtuber community a nice and cozy place, especially when said vtuber decides to do something other than apex for once.

>> No.6783327

>>6783216
I watch like 5 Nijis who do weeks of apex and drop it and there isn't any dislike bombing or antis in chat. Chihiro just has antis who hatewatch everything she does. Or is this a Hololive thing?

>> No.6783499
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6783499

>>6783216
That's just Chihiro and Aqua really. Selen will incline further if Anykara does things right and schedules a collab with Kuzuha, and antis won't be a problem because they can't understand what she's saying.

>> No.6783545

>>6777069
Same reason for Ivan, Hans and Nigel.

>> No.6783597

>>6783156
Kanon had less subs and more views than her when she blew up. Also, she's a pred playing on a new account, of course people would be impressed at her score because she's against bottom feeders.

>> No.6783614

>>6783499
This might be the break that NijiEN has been looking for, especially considering how addicted the nips are to this thing. I have abosulutely no fucking clue how to play Apex but even to an outsider like me it's clear that she's good. She may end up being the Bora of her generation.

>> No.6783653

>>6783499
>That's just Chihiro and Aqua really.
And Matsuri

>> No.6783658

>>6783614
see >>6783597

>she's a pred playing on a new account, of course people would be impressed at her score because she's against bottom feeders.

>> No.6783696

>>6783658
Ah, okay. That makes more sense.

>> No.6783711

>>6783653
Nobody cares when Matsuri plays APEX regularly, she doesn't get dislike bombed unlike Chihiro and Aqua. She just got shittalked in a few tournaments.

>> No.6783734

>>6783499
would she and kuzuha channel even be able to make an interesting combo without someone not autistic to tard wrangle them?

>> No.6783784

>>6783658
Doesn't that just mean she's gonna boost her MMR so high that it's not gonna be fun for her coworkers to play with her?
Tournament-wise she needs to learn Japanese to get invited.

>> No.6783839

>>6783784
she could make it to CR cup with the right connections, and people who speak shit japanese are actually at an advantage for team building

>> No.6783844

>>6783784
Could just make another smurf account when playing with lower-skilled coworkers.

>> No.6783851

>>6781726
I guess Selen will be the most popular for Niji wave 2 (number wise), and maybe out of all of them, but we will see in time.

>> No.6783894

apex is a buff, let's wait for a few more streams before jumping to conclusions

>> No.6784002

>>6780754
I say it's a theory, because the alternative is that hololive would have gotten big even without clippers. It's possible that if the zhangs didn't clip, then others would have filled the gap. With a few members as exceptions, I don't see any reason why a different vtuber group couldn't have emerged as the dominant player.

>> No.6784029

>>6783499
I don't see it happening. Kuzuha only got paired up with Genburten because Gen is good, he basically carried the team to win SelectCup. It just so happened to be that he speaks English. Selen has to be noticed by Apex tryhards and even then she'd be paired with shitters because of her skill.

>> No.6784090

She'll get decent numbers for APEX and shit for everything else.
Pretty much like Kuzuha, She'll easily be the leading EN member soon.
They're also getting a pred for the new JP branch announced today from 5ch leaks.

>> No.6784125

>>6783784
Now you're thinking!
She is competing in an EN market who knows good gamers go to twitch.
She is in a company where the JP branch loves Apex while having minimal JP comprehension
She is with her genmates who are unlikely to be her skill level in games.

On paper being an APEX pred looks good but in practice it gets stale when the only thing you can get out of it are solo streams.
You can only smurf for sometime until it gets boring.

>> No.6784142

what ping does Canada get to Japan?

>> No.6784143

>>6783894
>apex is a buff
Meaningless comment, unless you expect Rosemi to pull the same numbers simply from playing Apex. Is that what you meant?

>> No.6784254

>>6783894
Apex much of a buff for Finana and Elira, and if Pomu played it right now she would probably get less than normal viewers. It is a big buff for Selen because it got known that she would be really good at the game

>> No.6784256

>>6783851
Yes, but probably not. She only has FPS as her talent. A one trick pony. She may have done good for her first game stream but to those who actually plays apex, they aren't going to watch a person grind ranks from the bottom even more so if they know that the person is actually good in it. At most, she will get the same amount of viewers nun and chihiro has at around <7k which is good. Plus, her schedule is not gonna be apex for this week.

>> No.6784298

>>6784254
isnt* much of a buff..

>> No.6784301

If you're joining Nijisanji, Playing APEX is a buff, simple as.

>> No.6784383

>>6784256
>She only has FPS as her talent
So what, it’s a part of the package. It’s like being good at singing, which simply adds to your popularity. You don’t have to sing every stream to hold attention afterward, just use it to increase interest. It just helps grow popularity in general.

>> No.6784393
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6784393

>>6777069
jp called them that, I think it started from chang ->zhang. The nickname stuck when Bilibili tried to fuck with Pekora.

>> No.6784403

>>6784301
>If you're joining Nijisanji, you are playing APEX
ftfy

>> No.6784427

>>6784256
just curious can you tell us what talents the most subbed talent of her company has?

>> No.6784477

>>6784301
Eh nah, if apex was really a buff we would've seen more livers reach above 10k. Livers who are good at it barely reach 8K on solo streams, more if they are in a tourney. Look at nijiApex. It didn't have as much as hype after inviting literal pros to attend the tourney. Kuzuha is an outlier for the game since he could entertain people in the game as much as Pekora entertaining people from a lot of her games. They got lucky on Bora at first and thought it might be good to hire a high ranker for their vtubers. Selen is Bora V2 with EN buff.

>> No.6784561

>>6783216
Apex only tards don’t care if they don’t play apex they just don’t watch

>> No.6784634

>>6784029
>Kuzuha only got paired up with Genburten because Gen is good
It was a draft selection so that’s not how it worked

>> No.6784642

So when do you think a new APEX replacement game will come out? or has APEX been the staple game in JP circles?

>> No.6784687

>>6783711
>Nobody cares when Matsuri plays APEX regularly
Her original fanbase is getting tired, she gathering antis from APEX fandom, it's a lose lose proposition

>> No.6784781

It's just another Bora but will have a few more EN fans, She's most likely gonna tie herself down to the APEX slave cage.
Not sure if JP fans are really bothered about hiring a load of predators for APEX.

>> No.6784820

>>6776135
Gura is going to hit 4 million before anyone else hits 2 million, lol

>> No.6784826

>>6784642
considering how greedy EA is, they'll try to milk it until the end of times

>> No.6784889

>>6784781
But bora is good but plays like a pussy, selen is just aggressive in her play style

>> No.6784891

>>6784781
Not to mention her skills are probably significantly overrated. She is good no doubt, obviously, but she hit pred really early when it was much easier to do so. No way could she hit pred now.

>> No.6785039

>>6784427
I honestly don't know, but from what I can make out of it, the best ones are usually the one who entertain the audience backed with a good set of skills like gaming/drawing/singing. If you put gaming skills above all, then it's a no go, people would only know that you're good at games but cannot balance interaction with the chat. Good vtubers are ones that can juggle those and you can see them from Holos like Pekora, Marine, Miko or Gura.

>> No.6785044
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6785044

>>6784820
Achieving 4m would probably make her imposter syndrome much more debilitating. Its probably good for her mental health that she isn't celebrating milestones.

>> No.6785089

>>6784891
Wouldn’t there be an expectation for her to reach pred then?
That shit is a soul crushing grind now.

>> No.6785102

>>6785044
>Sora hitting 1M on new years eve.
Do you know how fucking amazing that would be.

>> No.6785126
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Here is the daily Hololive chart updated todate.
>MISSING THREE FUCKING DAYS
Holostats took an arrow to the knee and I didn't manually update the missing streams (about 40) with numbers from other sources so I struck three days from the record for a while.

Anyway, it is the first chart since Coco graduation stream and
>the girls average holds strong above 8k even in the worst days
>14 days average holding strong over 10k

It is a very steep incline and very similar to what happened in 2020. Maybe the incline is just a seasonal cycle?
> April to November incline
> November to April recline

I'll eventually fill the gaps with other sources and return the chart to their full unbroken glory but, for now, this is as good as it gets.

Any oshi you want charted?

>> No.6785170

>>6771647

ne at 3:54:15.

>> No.6785182

>>6785126
summer is a incline will slowdown alitlle in fall but incline again to holidays.
begining of the year is a drop for any youtube content creator

>> No.6785194

>>6785126
Since thread is talking about APEX can I see RBC and Choco

>> No.6785220

>>6785089
>reaching pred
>cheats/hacks galore
Much more easier to milk views from milestones as an idol than a pred rank. Hal is good standard, but even he fails to reach 20k consistently with JP viewers buff.

>> No.6785250

>>6785089
onyl if she goes solo, but she will and will have good vies but will cursh her mentally.
then the streamsnipers will come and i dont think she is the kind that will stand it.

>> No.6785413

>>6771647
I'd love to get a JP's PoV on why this fucker is so popular, He comes across like foreigners version of xQc

>> No.6785831 [DELETED] 
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>>6785194
>Choco
Steep incline from April forward, real incline too with her bottom going rapidly up (heh) thanks to APEX buff.

Here are all of her 10k+ streams in 2021, you can see clearly a pattern here. Her ASMR is so prominent you can eyeball in the chart what streams are ASMR in the whole period.

Hadn't Susan nerfed what can be done in ASMR she would easily be one of the most viewed Holos.

>2021-02-14 :: 20882/27503 :: 【#ちょこ先生誕2021】ちょこ先生の3Dお誕生日会【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-06-13 :: 10440/16769 :: 【録画はメン限】悪魔のASMR【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-04-27 :: 10481/15617 :: 【ASMR】録画はメン限で残すかも【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-06-22 :: 09827/14467 :: 【録画はメン限】お耳ドキドキ悪魔のASMR【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-07-08 :: 09777/13137 :: 【録画はメン限】悪魔のASMR【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-01-29 :: 08803/12889 :: 【録画は残しません】悪魔のASMR【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-05-14 :: 11625/12855 :: 【ASMR】録画はメン限で残します!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-02-15 :: 10481/12573 :: 【録画は残しません】真夜中に悪魔に癒されにきませんか?【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-06-04 :: 08896/12327 :: 【録画はメン限】悪魔の保健医がお耳ハイジャックいたします【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-01-08 :: 10070/12190 :: 【ASMR】滅びのASMR配信【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-03-10 :: 09030/11830 :: 【ASMR】録画は残しません!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-04-16 :: 07542/11306 :: 【ASMR】録画は残しません!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-03-12 :: 08023/10409 :: 【#ホロ女子座談会】ホロ女子座談会!卒業式体験談編【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-06-26 :: 08343/10237 :: 【#メルキスココ】ココ様にメルキスが色気というものを教えてさしあげます!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-04-07 :: 07655/10048 :: 【録画はメン限】お耳ハイジャックします!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)

>> No.6785942
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6785942

>>6785194
>Choco
Steep incline from April forward, real incline too with her bottom going rapidly up (heh) thanks to APEX buff.

Here are all of her 10k+ streams in 2021, you can see clearly a pattern here. Her ASMR is so prominent you can eyeball in the chart what streams are ASMR in the whole period.

Hadn't Susan nerfed what can be done in ASMR she would easily be one of the most viewed Holos.

>2021-02-14 :: 20882/27503 :: 【#ちょこ先生誕2021】ちょこ先生の3Dお誕生日会【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-06-13 :: 10440/16769 :: 【録画はメン限】悪魔のASMR【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-04-27 :: 10481/15617 :: 【ASMR】録画はメン限で残すかも【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-06-22 :: 09827/14467 :: 【録画はメン限】お耳ドキドキ悪魔のASMR【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-07-08 :: 09777/13137 :: 【録画はメン限】悪魔のASMR【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-01-29 :: 08803/12889 :: 【録画は残しません】悪魔のASMR【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-05-14 :: 11625/12855 :: 【ASMR】録画はメン限で残します!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-02-15 :: 10481/12573 :: 【録画は残しません】真夜中に悪魔に癒されにきませんか?【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-06-04 :: 08896/12327 :: 【録画はメン限】悪魔の保健医がお耳ハイジャックいたします【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-01-08 :: 10070/12190 :: 【ASMR】滅びのASMR配信【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-03-10 :: 09030/11830 :: 【ASMR】録画は残しません!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-04-16 :: 07542/11306 :: 【ASMR】録画は残しません!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(talking,asmr)
>2021-03-12 :: 08023/10409 :: 【#ホロ女子座談会】ホロ女子座談会!卒業式体験談編【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-06-26 :: 08343/10237 :: 【#メルキスココ】ココ様にメルキスが色気というものを教えてさしあげます!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)
>2021-04-07 :: 07655/10048 :: 【録画はメン限】お耳ハイジャックします!【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ】(uncategorized)

>> No.6786121

>>6785102
Would be better if she actually got it on Christmas.

>> No.6786157

>>6785942
Both Choco and Mel needs a new outfit to hide their badonkers or change ASMR from their title/thumbnail into something that couldn't be picked up by algo. Do enough experiments like what haato did and we might be seeing more ASMR contents in a week. Unarchived monetized ASMR is something good too but very yabai.

>> No.6786182
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6786182

>>6785194
>RBC
Also inclining but doesn't seem to be because of APEX. Her greatest hits other than special events are fun collabs. Here are her 10k+ 2021 streams:

>2021-06-04 :: 37123/44206 :: 【#ロボ子さん新衣装】新フォルムで動き回るえ…コレが本当にボク…??【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-05-23 :: 29338/36383 :: 【爆誕】全身3D本日の主役は5才になったロボ子さん!!!#ロボ子爆誕2021 #HBDroboco2021 【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-06-24 :: 27300/32553 :: 【マイクラ】ドキドキ!みんなで作る #うさ建ステージリレー 【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-05-04 :: 22960/28781 :: 【#ド深夜UNO】勝者が決める!わちゃわちゃ属性UNO【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん/獅白ぼたん/角巻わため/桃鈴ねね】
>2021-05-30 :: 21361/25380 :: 【ホロ伝言】画伯たちによるお絵描き伝言ゲーム【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん/大空スバル/アキロゼ/天音かなた/桐生ココ】
>2021-02-21 :: 16854/19055 :: 【 DEVOUR】UNOができないのでホラーをすることになりました。。。。【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん・宝鐘マリン・白上フブキ・姫森ルーナ】
>2021-05-20 :: 15061/18824 :: 【#ド深夜UNO】過呼吸不可避!?はちゃめちゃド深夜UNO!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん/白上フブキ/雪花ラミィ/桃鈴ねね】
>2021-01-03 :: 13132/16914 :: 【 #UNOLIVE】2021年最初のド深夜UNO【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-05-28 :: 10815/16230 :: 【凸待ち】3つの重大発表!PON!PON!PON!!凸待ちします!!待機所【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-04-28 :: 12505/15893 :: 【#ド深夜UNO】飲酒UNO!?脳死で夜更かししようZE【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん/常闇トワ/雪花ラミィ/尾丸ポルカ】
>2021-03-03 :: 12290/14368 :: 【UNO】リベンジド深夜UNO!!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん・宝鐘マリン・白上フブキ・姫森ルーナ】
>2021-06-15 :: 11321/13355 :: 【 DEVOUR】新MAPの精神病棟でアイドルたちの悲鳴が聞こえるそうな・・・・【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん・桃鈴ねね・白上フブキ・雪花ラミィ】
>2021-01-02 :: 07536/11626 :: 【グラブル】新年初配信100連ガチャ!っぱ干支キャラ可愛いんだああああああ!!!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-05-29 :: 06417/11544 :: 【ウマ娘】マヤ…ボクだ…来てくれ…祈れば出る!!欲望花嫁ガチャ【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-06-27 :: 03623/11326 :: 【マイクラ】アキちゃんと一緒に夏祭りに行くよ~告知もあります【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-03-20 :: 08601/11003 :: 【3D全身】3周年記念泣いて笑って…バラードオンリーライブ-Robot Memory-【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】

>> No.6786201

>>6785942
has she try stream other platforms? other holo stream on twitch. then again her roommate maybe better for that purpose.

>> No.6786211

>>6785942
Checking her past streams and it seems that collabs actually hurts her number. Recent numbers are also lower since ASMR are not as frequent.

>> No.6786485
File: 434 KB, 2400x1440, mel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6786485

>>6786157
>Both Choco and Mel needs a new outfit to hide their badonkers or change ASMR from their title/thumbnail into something that couldn't be picked up by algo.
You are about 12 months late in your advice. They DID change their models and hid their bazongas but the loss of momentum from the demonetization and shadowban held them both back a lot.
The fact neither like Minecraft too much as well, they missed on the big Micra boom of late 2020.

In the end Youtube loosened a bit and Mel returned to her base model and Choco is doing ASMR more often and getting better numbers but the damage was done in 2020.

Here is Mel's chart, she streams so infrequently that her 14 days moving average never really "rounds up", it's all pointy and squary.

Here are all of her streams in 2021 that broke 5k peak.

So people understand how much streaming infrequently and having been hated by Susan debuffs her it took the whole strength of Akukin to break her over a 30k peak (beating even her anniversary stream).
I talked a couple of days ago about a simple fix to undebuff Aki SEO. For Mel, I have no idea because the more one stream the more the algorithm pushes to like minded people. Without streaming there is no algo buff and no SEO can fix it.

>2021-01-25 :: ,32722/38502 :: 【Minecraft】AKUKIN建設に貢献します#AKUKIN本社建設リレー配信【ホロライブ/夜空メル】
>2021-05-13 :: ,24374/29354 :: 【#夜空メル3周年】3Dでいっぱいの愛を3rd anniversary Live【ホロライブ】
>2021-05-20 :: ,10371/13606 :: 【#かなメルぼたん】みんなでスーパーマリオパーティー!【ホロライブ/夜空メル×天音かなた×獅白ぼたん】
>2021-01-30 :: ,09578/13324 :: 【30万人記念】みんなから初の凸待ち来てくれるかな!?【ホロライブ/夜空メル】
>2021-01-12 :: ,05865/07650 :: 【桃太郎電鉄】金持ち社長になるのは誰だ!?【ホロライブ/夜空メル・角巻わため・アキロゼ・癒月ちょこ】
>2021-05-23 :: ,06160/07548 :: 二人で協力!スーパーマリオ3Dワールド【ホロライブ/夜空メル×桃鈴ねね】
>2021-06-19 :: ,05327/06782 :: 【#amelファミリー】親子4人でマリオパーティー対決!【ホロライブ/夜空メル×Amelia×あやみ×なび】
>2021-05-21 :: ,03873/06482 :: 【Minecraft】ホロ鯖で楽しいダイヤ堀り【ホロライブ/夜空メル】
>2021-05-27 :: ,04448/05946 :: 【#from1st前夜祭】ついに明日!一期生歌枠リレー【ホロライブ/夜空メル】
>2021-03-14 :: ,04083/05931 :: 【ASMR】ホワイトデーゼロ距離どきどき耳かきetc【ホロライブ/夜空メル】
>2021-06-14 :: ,04277/05793 :: 【Minecraft】ネザーへ遠足前の準備だ!!【ホロライブ/夜空メル】
>2021-01-28 :: ,03872/05156 :: 【夜空メル】天才金髪二人組日本語と英語で爆弾解除!【COLLAB:Amelia Watson】
>2021-01-21 :: ,02719/05008 :: 【40万人耐久】達成するまで歌うの辞められない!Sing a lot【ホロライブ/夜空メル】

>> No.6786660
File: 282 KB, 641x886, choco nurse milf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6786660

>>6786201
>has she try stream other platforms?
I'll make a huge assumption here and speculate that she is a financially independent woman doing this for the company of the other girls and the thrill of being great at something (in this case, ASMR) and the pseudo celebrity it brings her.

>> No.6786897

>>6786182
Yeah those collabs are on a single stream which is why they get great numbers.
I think she gets good numbers on late night streams which means her demographic is either overseas or just ojisans.

>> No.6787100

>>6786897
Unpopular holos do better at late night streams because no one else is streaming.

>> No.6787412
File: 455 KB, 2400x1440, roboco per hour.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6787412

>>6786897
>>6787100
Yeah but here is Roboco average live viewers per scheduled hour of start of stream.
>how I fucking hate that dip in 17h and 20h

It makes me check whether it is some interesting data or the result of some anomaly in the data.
Didn't check now, will leave it be for now

>> No.6787869

>>6786485
Mel is a curious case, she isn’t the only one who has other work in Hololive but unlike the rest she actually suffers from splitting focus.

Her HL fanbase has been mostly stagnant of late and her other work, her fans have been lessening since a peak 2-3 years ago it seems. Her decline is unique amongst the others who have all had success, just varying degrees of it.

>> No.6787881

>>6787412
>AUTISM: not even once

Here are all the streams she started at the 17th hour (JST), one instance of Youtube hitting the floor contaminated the whole average. I'll start removing all streams under a certain threshold (10 minutes, for instance) as outliers.

>2021-01-24T17:15:00 to 2021-01-24T17:20:38 :: 0041/0083 :: APEX|VTuber最協決定戦全力出しきって勝つぞ!!【#BAMWIN 】
>2021-01-24T17:25:00 to 2021-01-24T20:34:52 :: 1253/1989 :: APEX|VTuber最協決定戦全力出しきって勝つぞ!!【#BAMWIN 】
>2021-01-29T17:10:00 to 2021-01-29T18:05:18 :: 2014/3334 :: 【マイクラ】離さない…ヨ…初めての村人ガチャ【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-02-12T17:00:00 to 2021-02-12T20:07:56 :: 2839/3929 :: 【APEX】Mozambique here!!!3333ダメージいっくぞおお!!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん・白上フブキ】
>2021-02-21T17:00:00 to 2021-02-21T21:30:42 :: 2257/3092 :: 【APEX-ランク】起きた時って声がガサガサ【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-03-16T17:00:00 to 2021-03-16T17:03:35 :: 0364/1282 :: 【ただいま】遂に一人暮らしはじめました!おかえりっていってほしいなスパチャ読み【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-03-16T17:05:00 to 2021-03-16T20:17:30 :: 2097/3357 :: 枠替え2【ただいま】遂に一人暮らしはじめました!おかえりっていってほしいなスパチャ読み【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-04-10T17:00:00 to 2021-04-10T19:15:29 :: 2244/3090 :: 【終焉介護】ボクに名誉キャリーさせてください!え…ホラー?【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-04-20T17:00:00 to 2021-04-20T19:02:45 :: 2895/4085 :: 【マイクラ】久々のホロ鯖探索テクテクテク!アイテムも整理する!!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-04-26T17:00:00 to 2021-04-26T19:54:00 :: 1697/2140 :: 【モンハンライズ】参加型!4解放!!皆と一緒に一狩りいこうぜ!!!!!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-05-03T17:00:00 to 2021-05-03T17:08:17 :: 0320/0562 :: 【 ウマ娘 プリティーダービー】オグリでうまぴょい!!新米トレーナー育成【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-05-03T17:10:00 to 2021-05-03T20:42:39 :: 2366/3767 :: 【 ウマ娘 プリティーダービー】オグリでうまぴょい!!新米トレーナー育成【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-05-05T17:30:00 to 2021-05-05T20:11:29 :: 1840/2804 :: 【 APEX】幼女SP!新シーズンを幼女があばれまわっちゃうお【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-05-11T17:00:00 to 2021-05-11T20:05:11 :: 1520/2041 :: 【 ウマ娘 プリティーダービー】ファル子でURA優勝!うまぴょい耐久!!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-05-15T17:00:00 to 2021-05-15T18:44:38 :: 0849/1075 :: 【】TALK&APEXしたいことをやっちゃおう!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-06-21T17:00:00 to 2021-06-21T17:25:20 :: 2608/3628 :: 【ウマ娘】喉が焼けてる!?なら収録ボイス限定ガチャでタイマンしようぜ、姐さん!!!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】
>2021-06-28T17:20:00 to 2021-06-28T21:16:29 :: 2448/3446 :: 【APEX】目指せプラチナ~~先生の耐久に合流!!【ホロライブ/ロボ子さん】

>> No.6788389
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6788389

Why is Moona getting such viewers recently? She's getting mogged by NijiEN despite having almost 1m subs and buff from leeching Pekora.

>> No.6788431

>>6788389
>such low viewers
Fix'd

>> No.6788532
File: 459 KB, 2400x1440, roboco per hour fixed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6788532

>>6787881
WTF, it didn't go away by removing short glitched streams. For some reason her streams that start at that time get lower average.

>> No.6788850

>>6788389
One word: Content

Moona peaks when she does karaoke or minecraft, if you look back she was getting even lower numbers on prior ASSCREED and Yakuza streams.

>> No.6788866
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6788866

tick tock holofags

>> No.6789142
File: 183 KB, 1200x1694, tomboy pekora.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6789142

Speaking about streams started at what hours here is Pekora in 2021

>starting at 06:00: 12474 avg (1 streams)
>starting at 07:00: no streams
>starting at 08:00: 7484 avg (1 streams)
>starting at 09:00: no streams
>starting at 10:00: no streams
>starting at 11:00: no streams
>starting at 12:00: 33370 avg (1 streams)
>starting at 13:00: 24148 avg (46 streams)
>starting at 14:00: 22623 avg (4 streams)
>starting at 15:00: 24013 avg (3 streams)
>starting at 16:00: 30810 avg (2 streams)
>starting at 17:00: 22753 avg (3 streams)
>starting at 18:00: 25958 avg (2 streams)
>starting at 19:00: 23624 avg (5 streams)
>starting at 20:00: 22929 avg (43 streams)
>starting at 21:00: 27716 avg (71 streams)
>starting at 22:00: 25397 avg (28 streams)
>starting at 23:00: 22452 avg (14 streams)
>starting at 00:00: 21371 avg (5 streams)
>starting at 01:00: no streams
>starting at 02:00: no streams
>starting at 03:00: no streams
>starting at 04:00: no streams
>starting at 05:00: no streams

The rabbit surely is consistent and values her time, her sleep and her routine. That consistency is what gets her the big views.

>> No.6789360
File: 679 KB, 2174x2746, ring fit lamy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6789360

>>6789142
Here is Lamy, the morning queen

>starting at 06:00: no streams
>starting at 07:00: no streams
>starting at 08:00: no streams
>starting at 09:00: 5516 avg (73 streams)
>starting at 10:00: 8228 avg (1 streams)
>starting at 11:00: no streams
>starting at 12:00: 8719 avg (1 streams)
>starting at 13:00: 5049 avg (2 streams)
>starting at 14:00: 6586 avg (2 streams)
>starting at 15:00: 6346 avg (3 streams)
>starting at 16:00: 33552 avg (2 streams)
>starting at 17:00: 6441 avg (2 streams)
>starting at 18:00: 6675 avg (2 streams)
>starting at 19:00: 17936 avg (3 streams)
>starting at 20:00: 27377 avg (7 streams)
>starting at 21:00: 9196 avg (12 streams)
>starting at 22:00: 6632 avg (46 streams)
>starting at 23:00: 6901 avg (40 streams)
>starting at 00:00: 8293 avg (3 streams)
>starting at 01:00: no streams
>starting at 02:00: no streams
>starting at 03:00: no streams
>starting at 04:00: no streams
>starting at 05:00: no streams

>> No.6789455
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6789455

>>6788866
DRAGON COIN TO THE MOON

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