/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

What's so wrong about male collabs?
It's not as if the girls have sex with males on stream
You can just skip the stream if it's not your cup of tea

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Anon dont know about Bae/Ollie/Oga/Astel going to a Bar/Restaurant after a recording session

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
You can only love something or hate something, neutral opinions are not allowed on /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
You're being too reasonable for this board, turn back

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Have you not made enough bait threads already? People getting bored of the FuwaMoco one, so you switched sides?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
>It's not as if the girls have sex with males on stream
LITERALLY WRONG

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
>You can just skip the stream if it's not your cup of tea
three billion posts screaming about it show that some people really, really can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
What's so wrong about respecting your fanbase? It's not as if the girls can't do it off stream
They can just not be in hololive if it's not their cup of tea

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
You wouldn't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473367
That whore is just projecting

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
They're not of equal standing and males don't bring enough to the table to deserve the collab. From my perspective, it's just business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Many of the girls did not join hololive to collab with 3 view holostars. Respect their collab choices

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473416
How about you respect their collab choices? Respect is mutual. You just want them to dance to your tune like a slave

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Homocollabs show that the vtuber does not understand their fanbase and I don't want to waste my time on that. I also don't want to give any sort of support to homocollabers to stop cover from pushing them. Notice how bae is on almost every homoshill stream. If every holomember was like fuwamoco there wouldn't be homo shill streams. Homobeggars are also the biggest cancer on hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473489
> You just want them to dance to your tune like a slave
Thats their job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473278
>>67473367
>>67473416
>>67473524
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473489
I do. And likewise they'll respect my choice to not support them.
No one is owed my support. I can always watch girls who do things the way I like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Mentally ill unicorns feel intimidated by any slightly functioning and successful male since it ruins their delusions about their "girlfriend".
There is nothing wrong with male collabs beyond the fact that it filters those guys, who are often peak paypiggy material.
Meaning it's bad for business if your goal is to pump lonely losers for money.
As shrimple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Incel faggots loves to seethe more news at 11

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473489
>How about you respect their collab choices?
How about no?
>Respect is mutual.
Respect is earned.
>You just want them to dance to your tune like a slave
Yes, obviously. I'm the one paying their bills after all.

Homocollabing, at least if you are part of a big corpo, has only downsides. You won't get new fans, and your existing ones will tolerate it at best, or outright drop you at worst.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473367
That's the indie scene anon, working for a company you expect a bit of professionalism from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Unicorns don't realize ho bad they fucked up by behaving like retards
All this is going to do is draw the worst twitter has to offer into actual streams just to stir shit

[Anonymous No.]

>holo collabs with guys
>"good, let them do what they want, they're adult and can make their own choices, you don't own them chud"

>holo doesn't collab with guys
>"this is bs, I know she'd enjoy collabing with them, she's just afraid of her toxic unicorn fans who aren't allowing her to do what she wants"

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473722
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473722
Riro Ron was also working for a company, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473652
>homobeggar spam thread like this 10+ threads already
who seething again, LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
>you can just skip the streams
After they collab with sharts I skip all their streams lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473793
And she was fired for it, indies don't answer to no one but their fans.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't particularly enjoy hearing faggot voices in my ears as cute girls are talking.

I watch hololive for cute girls. Not men. Simple as that.

There you go, that's why I'm against homocollabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473367
>Male and female interact a lot.
>Leads to them catching feelings for each other.
Wow!
It's almost as if this is something that is hardwired into us at a basic and fundamental level of our biology!
Who would have thought!

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473851
But people here say it's fine if girls were to collab a lot with men and even do offcollabs at their place and al, nothing would ever come out of it...

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473901
Because the
>people here
are women who want to live vicariously through the girls flirting with homos. That's basically Nijis whole audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
>You can just skip the stream if it's not your cup of tea
That's how Nijisanji EN became the way it is today, with constant interruptions from guys trying to flirt in chat, showing up in collabs unprompted, etc. It's because they weren't gatekept hard enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
I work on a train dude. I work only with men and it's all 10-14 hour days. the last thing I want to do is get back to the hotel load up a stream and hear another niggers voice and not my cute anime girls voice. if it happens with my oshi I'm gonna cause a derail intentionally and poison the water supply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Not liking male collabs and being in love with your oshi have nothing to do with each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473940
Not only girls, there's an insane amount of male shipfags as well. Pretty much they're the only ones advocating this, they treat it like a romance anime and want to ship their favorite pairings.

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>>67474018
>if it happens with my oshi I'm gonna cause a derail intentionally and poison the water supply.
who is your oshi by chance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473985
Exactly. People want to pretend like we didn't see Nijisanji go from "no no, it's just this once" to the boys being the focal point of the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
>You can just skip the stream if it's not your cup of tea
How did this go for fans of the first few nijien girls who enjoyed them before men were a thing there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474105
youll find out if/when the trains start derailing

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474105
Hakos Baelz

[Anonymous No.]

if my oshi did a male collab i'd probably set off a dirty bomb at the talent agency

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474185
tyfys fedsama

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>>67473566
cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474174
was. why do you think we had all those derails last year

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
main point of watching cute girl doing cute stuff is not same as some dude doing stuff with cute girl. If one wishes to watch dudes there is better dudes than homostars

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>>67473940
This is a good point, the main difference between /vt/sisters who want to live vicariously through female streamers and your average unicorn is that the unicorn is too much of a pathetic loser to be capable of self inserting himself as the male streamer in any given collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
They're literally having sex after the male collabs. Don't worry though all the ones that have never collabed with a guy have never had sex before in their life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473367
I don't understand this post. The way I read it it sounds like she's talking about a chatter saying this person decides you're dating and it being cringe and weird. Is that not what she's talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473985
They also have made offcollabs with them a regular thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474371
theyre just like me

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474371
I have sex too, but never in the office. I don't want our customers to watch it either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474371
>Don't worry though all the ones that have never collabed with a guy have never had sex before in their life.
We all know that's bs
Some of them had boyfriends before joining holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474018
I swear to God you guys is the exact same format everytime ahahaha
This one is super creative though, please derail a train anon. Maybe it's just one guy, maybe you're the same guy saying shit like this, "I'm old and lonely, I work alone and the only source of joy I have is an anime female on the internet" ahaha it's always something "poor me waah" like that every time

I'm left wondering why you guys didn't just kill yourself in 2018 for that matter, before any of this took off. Seeing as she's you're sole reason for living and all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473743
Mumei did not say this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474382
She mentioned during a stream that basically every single time a guy vtuber collabs with a girl, it's because he wants to fuck her and vtubing is basically tinder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G99X43B6TaY&t=350s

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474493
ill make sure to derail it in your neck of the woods then I'm gonna run a train on youre mum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474371
>Well, *insert girl here* is getting plowed at night behind the scenes, so that's an excuse why you should let this one homo talk like a faggot into your ear for 2 hours because Holo wants to appeal to women!
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474493
what are you even on about?

[Anonymous No.]

Thinly veiled BauBau anti thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473805
Exactly, so that's why a "no male collabs" policy should be encouraged because we know women are stupid and will eventually end up failing such an easy task, which gets them fired one way or another. Most companies and fans are right on being wary of male collabs because it always turns into trouble and a loss of time and money for everyone involved

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474707
So little faith in your oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

I personally love and respect the holos like Bae who are willing to collab with males, they're basically pioneers, showing everyone else in Hololive that it's okay and that the stupid bastard unicorns can't hurt you much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474867
Pioneer in being less popular than everyone else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474678
I'm too tired to dig through the archive for you. Pay attention and you'll notice too, patterns in how the unicorns think.

In this case, anon is most definitely a self described "cgdct enjoyer". That is literally how they type. They will justify their obsession exactly like that.
>"I'm ugly and no one will ever love me. My job sucks. The one thing I have going in life is the hololive EN branch of virtual females. If they ever acknowledge a male, I'm killing myself."
It's only funny to me now only because of how common it is

[Anonymous No.]

What's so wrong about spending 10 seconds not saying anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474930
we used to be worse about this shit a decade ago. doesnt matter why, you have no reason to live except the one thing and when its ruined you threaten to kill everyone. it aint complicated

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>>67474991
Nothing, people are just genuinely mindbroken and want to force them to do something they don't actually want, simply to spite their fanbase. It's pretty much how troons act when someone doesn't say trans rights. It's not about them, or the homos, it's about having power over their will. People who got bullied as kids do this shit on the internet quite often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474867
more like Pioneer at exploring nothing but toxic homobeggar who never support anything, LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475126
>want to force them to do something they don't actually want
You described unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474991
its usual homobeggar seething over the girl who dont care about homostar, the same thing happen to irys too

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
If you turn a blind eye to it then the girls will think there is nothing wrong with it and keep doing them more frequently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475196
No, I described both sides, but in this case, yours is the one that's acting like a piece of trash.

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>>67475196
Now you see the solution is to do the split. Instead of mixing the vtubers. Ship the Bae's and the Ollie's to one side with the Holostars and those not on that ship can go to another side, easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Slippery slope
I don’t want Hololive to become a 24/7 cuckfest like Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475196
>just said she not gonna talk with homo
>call her sexist
why are homobeggar like this??

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475291
this
the day cross gender off collabs become normalized is the day I stop supporting hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475418
Then you should've stopped it already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475537
you're not normal

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475619
>Kobo
>Bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
What's wrong is that no matter how accepting their respecting fanbases are or would hypothetically be they will always get hate and harassment by dramanigs and nijicunts
There is nothing to gain from this for the girls
If the fags are incapable of standing on their own they should fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475691
Then is the other anon supposed to post unicorn-friendly Holos or something? You're both retarded or samefagging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475937
He said he's gonna leave when offcollabs become normalized, I just pointed out that they already are, some of them just don't do it by their won volition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
They have to pretend that Pekora is unicorn friendly in order to validate their viewpoint. It's pretty cringe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475978
Only a minority of holos collab with guys and for the most part it's the bad ones like IDs, Matsuri, Laplus, Mori, Kronii with a few exceptions such as Sora or Fubuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476061
Most holos collab with guys. Watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476134
No, they don't.
No, your "uh but Gura once talked to a male MC at an anime con panel" doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
>You can just skip the stream if it's not your cup of tea
With things like these, the fear is always that if the content creator doesn't receive enough negative feedback it may eventually become the majority of the content of their channel. "Slippery slope" reasoning, basically.

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>>67476134
They don't though?

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>>67476196
Well, most content creators should abandon old fans to pursue new ones. The goal is to grow and not remain stagnant. The big ones are those that do this and no, Gura is not a big content creator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476195
>>67476205
Maybe not yet, but give it a few months. Dev-Is is the trial version of what Hololive is going to look like. An intergender, shipper friendly company. As it should be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
>You can just skip the stream if it's not your cup of tea

You can sleep on the couch while your girlfriend is fucked by her coworker

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473722
professionalism, from holostars, just like vesper fr fr

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
I despise female collabs
Keep your girls away from my boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474371
>Don't worry though all the ones that have never collabed with a guy have never had sex before in their life.
Have a diference in bring up the guy who she have sex on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476195
>>67476205
Pekora, Korone, Miko, Fubuki, Okayu, Aqua, Sora, Akirose, Suisei, Matsuri, Towa, Botan, La+, and more have all done male collabs. It's not uncommon at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474867
>they're basically pioneers
Hookers are one of the
oldest profession in history

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476433
>have done
Don't care about what happened years ago
Still the minority

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476433
>Pekora, Korone, Miko, Fubuki, Okayu, Aqua, Sora, Akirose, Suisei, Matsuri, Towa, Botan, La+, and more have all done male collabs. It's not uncommon at all.
Imagine comparing a western's sex pests to japanese males

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>>67476240
Sure, but audience pivoting is not easy to do, and in fact has lead to the death of many channels.
And vtubing, despite what you may think, it's still not really mainstream, so it's especially hard in their case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476471
The ones I listed out still do male collabs. I'd have to go back and check to see the past ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476502
Imagine needing to pretend Japanese guys aren't guys to fit your dumbass narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476519
No they don't. Show me recent male collabs for Miko or Aqua for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476502
If anything Japanese guys are huge perverts

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476268
>two more months!

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476240
Only a few percent of content creators are able to grow that big. It's sometimes safer to go for a niche but loyal audience than chasing normalfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476599
The SAO collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474867
Bae is the undisputed runt of Promise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476562
You're responding to a false flagger btw. He does this "it's ok when it's Japanese men" all the time.
No earnest person would say that, especially after the Matsuri GTA sex yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476687
I'm sorry, the viewpoint is retarded enough that his argument sounds like something a unicorn would say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476502
>>67476502
>Imagine comparing a western's sex pests to japanese males
Anon the only confirmed sex pest in the company was a Japanese male, and another that was heavily speculated was Kaoru, who was also Nip and Male.
You could have taken so many different approaches for your talking points on how it's still very uncommon for male collabs to happen, yet you chose to patronize the Nips like they're all socially awkward virgins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Imagine a deeply delusional man who thinks that his body pillow is his wife. Now imagine a deeply delusional woman who thinks that her body pillow is her husband. The woman steals the man’s body pillow so that she can do freaky shit with two body pillows. How would the man react? That’s what is going on here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474930
You find it funny that many people are sad and depressed? Is this your "le epic sociopath" larp, or are you just emotionally stunted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476804
NTA, but being sad and depressed and wallowing in it are two different things. If you wallow in it to the point that it causes you to be jaded about everything, it's a problem that you need to seek help with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67475305
Why you post your own comment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Jealousy. Those are the same people who get mad when a male character who is not the self-insert MC talks to one of the girls from said MC's harem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67477116
I'm sorry for exposing your comment

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473605
That's not the issue, the issue is all the vitriol spewing from these peoples' mouth-shaped cesspools

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473722
t. teenager who never worked at any company ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>67478942
NTA, but if you're working for anyone there's an expectation of a certain level of professionalism. I'm not sure why you're arguing against that.

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>>67479092
NTA, professionalism doesn't really stop workplace romance. Sure there used to be a "no workplace romance" rule in some companies especially in the US, but nowadays that rule is either not enforced or straight up removed. Finding a significant other within the same company or work field is not unusual or rare now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67479741
It depends. There's still rules against dating your supervisor, but that's certainly not all there is to professionalism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67479919
There might be a rule, but nobody cares about t. Have you not been to those "team building" parties? The ones organized by my job always end up being pretty wild once the higher ups fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67479954
Anon, why are you conflating workplace romance with the entirety of professionalism?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474867
And it works too, they only need one or two congrarian whales that donate out of an anti-unicorn sentiment rather than enjoyment for the actual content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473278
....Did they fuck on the tables? What is the issue with going out for drinks with coworkers AFTER working

[Anonymous No.]

>>67476196
And the slippery slope is always proben right

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know why Cover doesn't get a clue after the absolute failure that was Holizontal. It'd be nice if they put all the homocollabers under Regloss, so it's easier to ignore them. Not to mention the homobeggars have hundreds of streamers to watch with the Nijikeks. Just fuck off already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474018
Based, I also have a job with a lot of lives depeding on it and if my oshi ever graduates/is fired I'm crashing it all and killing myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Go back, if you weren’t a newfag, you would already know the answer because we talk about this at least once a week

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
thats the problem, THEY DONT HAVE SEX...
thats why its bad.

If they had sex, on stream, it would be the best because its like watching someone you know do porn.

[Anonymous No.]

what are female unicorns towards males like

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473722
JP live in the same city anon, going out somewhere together is a normal thing for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Because EOPs think that they have a chance with a celebrity (they don't)

[Anonymous No.]

Yup. Just to be sure I'll skip the next one too. Then every stream after that cus why not. Send to be what everyone does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
I don't want holos to collab with amy schumer.
holostars are the amy schumer of vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
People who watch vtubers or just regular streamers are usually mentally ill in some way or another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Because it's not entertaining to me.
If I want to watch men, I'll watch Red Letter Media or OneyPlays. Adding women into wither of those(which has happened) destroys the dynamic and makes it unenjoyable.
The reverse is true for the girls. Adding in a man changes the dynamic and makes it unenjoyable to me.
Are there exceptions to this? Yes, sometimes, but the fact is that this is true for 99% of all mixed-gender collabs/interactions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
Because it's not entertaining to me.
If I want to watch men, I'll watch Red Letter Media or OneyPlays. Adding women into either of those(which has happened) destroys the dynamic and makes it unenjoyable.
The reverse is true for the girls. Adding in a man changes the dynamic and makes it unenjoyable to me.
Are there exceptions to this? Yes, sometimes, but the fact is that this is true for 99% of all mixed-gender collabs/interactions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
OP, you are a man, correct? All men are the same. You, me, the homostars. We want one thing above all else. Cute girls stuffed with our dick. It's the reason for everything. It's the reason the stars want to collab. You think they dont hit up those DMs? Offcollab? Tap that shit? Of course they do. And most anons simply don't want to think about it, or watching vtubers isn't fun anymore. It happens either way, but out of sight out of mind lets you keep the illusion going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
What's so wrong about no male collabs?
It's not as if there isn't already a company catering to you.
You can just watch Nijishitji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67487167
>OP, you are a man, correct?
Kek the only male homobeggars are unironic semen-slurping faggots and trannies. Male vtubers literally have 0 appeal to normal men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473214
>What's so wrong about male collabs?

It's not about "right" or "wrong", it's about the growth of the industry and out entertainment with it, we all already know how male collabs go thank to Nijisanji and we don't want any of that in Hololive, it's that simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473367
Literally who

[Anonymous No.]

If someone spits in my food Im not coming back to eat there.
Chuubas are not entitled to my view or support, we have many, many options now.

[Anonymous No.]

Men are less entertaining in the presence of women. Women are less entertaining in the presence of men. Mixed-gender comedy duos aren't funny. The only entertaining dynamics involving a man and a woman are dramatic, romantic, or pornographic.

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>>67473214
If you want to be a homo collaber then say so right from debut. Don't wait to build an audience and THEN spring the homos on them. Be like Bae and neuter yourself right from the start. I remember before debut everyone thought she would be the next Gura but once she started talking about her husbando Roberu it was over for her.

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>>67489430
When men and women Collab they suddenly start making sex jokes and getting all flirty. It always fucking happens. The only people who don't notice it are autistic beggars that can't pick up on societal cues and don't understand what's going on.

[Anonymous No.]

The funny thing is most of those girls have boyfriends, many of them are literally confirmed to have bfs, including Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473664
>You won't get new fans, and your existing ones will tolerate it at best, or outright drop you at worst.
I became a fan of Hololive by getting recommended the Boomer vs Zoomer collab with Bae and Vesper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67489430
This. Personally, I don't hate homostars, I have zero problems with them, and I love Bae who's an avid homo collaber. But I avoid those streams because I feel like she, similar to others, isn't entertaining in an intergender setting. Because collabs are fun if there is some sort of banter. But if the banter the girls or the boys do between each other gets implemented into an intergender setting, it will feel either flirty or outright rude. That's one of the option, the other is walking on eggshells, in which case, there's no point to collab in the first place. If you aren't a shipper, it's just simply uncomfortable for at least one of the parties (girls, boys, viewers) involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67489636
why do you still watch when they never collabed afterwards and Vesper is gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>67489540
What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67473722
>you expect a bit of professionalism from them
anon with the amount of contract breaking happening lately how can you even say that

[Anonymous No.]

>>67489815
nta but nothing if you're into shipping, however, the majority of most girls' fanbases aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474371
i dont like cross-sex collabs, it brings out the worst content in both genders and it creates shippers

[Anonymous No.]

>>67474867
>he says, posting the literal baby threatening to leave the company if she sees criticism online

[Anonymous No.]

>>67489719
Because I find them entertaining? Solo streams are entertaining. Only female collabs are entertaining. Only male collabs are entertaining. Male female collabs are entertaining. Not everything has to be a culture war a single person can enjoy multiple types of content.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread made me realize that this whole thing on /vt/ actually has nothing to do with vtubers. It's just the age old argument that's existed for centuries on whether men and women can be friends or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67489544
Here come the doxfags thinking they're the normal ones by stalking talent's rms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67490597
As someone who watched Achievement Hunter, a dudebro group of friends playing games, implode after they started letting bitches and trannies into the group to the point that AH is now no more...I know from first-hand experience what beggars will do to the Hololive community and I know every dirty fucking trick they try to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67491181
You don't have to go that far, just look at NijiEn.

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>>67473214
Front-page tourist here, it's because parasocial relationships. People who watch this kind of shit think they're dating the bitch in question or something, and when she shows her reality they panic. It's why JPop idols have a no-dating clause (inb4 they don't yes, they do, even if it's more of a don't ask don't tell thing)

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>>67491274
I like his example better because like I said, this isn't even something exclusive to vtubers. Even normalfags have this discussion and can't agree on it one way or the other.

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>>67491274
True but NijiEN is still mid-implosion. Achievement Hunter is what happens at the end of the road if you let beggars and trannies have their way.

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>your job is to be a cute anime girl that comforts and entertains NEET losers who have no chance at interacting with real women
>flirt with men, on stream, right in front of your pathetic audience
>"BUT WHATS WRONG WITH THAT?"

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>>67493260
Necrobumping dying bait threads from page 10 is worse.

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>>67490597
you've essentially summed up the entire board
now to repeat this process endlessly until the company either dies or gets turned into metaverse/ai/nft slop

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>>67473214
Regardless of if there's any flirting, what happens is male collabs will attract an audience of people who will start begging for streams with flirtatious interactions between male and female members. If this reaches a critical point where the company decides that this is profitable then that is the sort of content we will get.

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That was my stance too, and I did just that. And now Aki does more male collabs than not. Went from quietly skipping streams to quietly dropping her.

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If you don't know what the problem is, you're part of the problem. This isn't hard to understand.

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>>67476804
I find it funny that unicorns so consistently try to use the same manipulative rhetoric to shill their ideology.

Pro tip for the future: if anyone tries to make you do something at threat of suicide or anything like that, they're a narcissistic. Remember that for any relationship you might find yourself in, anon.

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>>67473214
Most male watchers are in high school or have high school trauma they carry with them. They see a girl they liked talking to a male of somesort. Even a teacher. Due to extreme levels of self deprecation they imagine that the girl they like is a whore and fucking the men she spoke to. Most young men these days seem to have really bad self esteem issues and I think stuff like this stems from that. For me personally if I don't want to watch a stream or a game or a collab or something I don't watch it then tune back in when it's something I want to watch.

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>>67473214
I don't want to see some faggot try to get into my oshi's pants on stream and I want to discourage the making of any content that would lead to such an event happening

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VTubers, at least originally, are by and large socially autistic loners who hide their insecurities behind virtual avatars. They enjoy a higher level of anonymity and privacy than fleshtubers by the nature of their job.

Male vtubers are not an exception. They are as retarded as your average /vt/ gremlin, only they feel superior because they "made it" and will flaunt it. Lonely people want company, and when lonely people meet they will inevitably try to hook up. VTubing is about entertaining people, not for you to get laid. No one wants to watch a sexpest try to hookup with their favorite entertainer. Vox and Kyo are what happens when your average /vt/ user gets popularity. I know I will never get to fuck my oshi. But I will bitch and moan and torch things so that they don't get to either.

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the platonic perspective is so juvenile

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>>67473214
There's nothing wrong with male collabs
But I'm mentally ill, terrified of women, terrified to approach them, and use vtubers are a surrogate for any form of female interaction. Seeing a male able to talk to my oshi and joke around with her, even in a professional setting, hurts my mentally ill brain and makes me realize that it is just a parasocial relationship and incredibly unhealthy. But that mental illness is still controlling my moods, my temperament, and my ability to look at things rationally, so I assume the worst in that my oshi is likely dating them now.
>You never had a chance
I know that. But I'm mentally ill and that logic doesn't compute. To me, my oshi is like a comfort. It's not that I believe we have a real relationship, it's just that I can ignore my shitty life and my social anxieties long enough to feel relaxed as I watch their streams. A male ruins that because I'm constantly worried they will date. That the chance I knew I never had with her is not forever gone.
It's insanely pathetic, yes. I am a unicorn that wants my oshi to never even look at a male, and I know that I'm completely retarded to expect her to never interact with a male. But that is my mentality and I assume the mentality of a lot of other unicorns. I'm self-aware enough to understand I'm retarded and know I'm pathetic, though. Truthfully I'll probably never deal with my fear of women so vtubers are the best alternative I have.

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>>67473214
What's so wrong about a restaurant putting feces on its menu?
It's not like you have to eat it.
You can just skip it and don't look at other diners who eat it.