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3d live edition

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>>6691609

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>97k

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>>6719587
>>6718368
Post it now, go on

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Rushia peaking just short of 100k, Pekora just got in

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>>6719714
Pekora will be the peak. Barely 100k is a steep recline from Marine's concert.

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>>6719739
Nijikeks always moving the goalpost

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>>6719739
not really surprising. Marine tends to have more live viewers than Rushia

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Marine's 3d live was for her 1mil milestone but visually it looked like the marketing was actually for gen3 concert which is a huge buff since this is the biggest gen in all of hololive.

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>>6719587
Nijiniggers doko?

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>>6719775
Not a nijikek but a holochad with high standards. I expect nothing but the best from 3rd gen especially now that Coco is gone.

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Your 2021 Numbers Champion

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>>6719739
100k now

>recline
Most viewed Rushia stream so far is the smash collab (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnZ3pbdIAPI)) with 109.8k peak.
This one will at very least be the second most watchd with 104k so far.

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Why Nijicucks being so silent now?

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>>6719889
dont go

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>>6719739
Yep. I'm gonna go with three big reasons why I think this is the case
>Rushia has a lower fan-base numbers wise than Marine
She's got less average CCV + Vod views than Marine does, and while a lot of people are aware of who Rushia is, ms Menhera Yandere is not for everyone
>Singing ability
Rushia has been improving, but Marine is definitely the best singer overall in Gen 3. That means a concert is gonna be a bigger multiplier for her than Rushia
>A full generation concert of the biggest JP gen is very special
A full generation means you get potential 5-man songs and all 5 members on stage at once. Given Hololive being big on pushing Gen-Unity from gen3 onwards, this is a bigger draw than a bunch of individuals who, while hype, haven't really been streaming a lot for one reason or another.

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>>6719864
It's all about marketing. If she showed everyone and showed the picture a week ahead then you will get a flock. That's what Kanata and Marine did. Some retards thought Miko will be showing up instead of Haachama. Haachama comebacks always drive numbers upwards of 50k with her alone

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>>6719839
>>6719893
Marine is a big difference to it.

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>>6719860
Watching twitch viewers call him adorable and wholesome on Genburten's stream.

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>>6719949
>Marine is definitely the best singer overall in Gen 3
flare is best singer in gen 3

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>>6719839
Hololive fantasy is the golden generation.
>best chemistry
>genuine care for each other
>no graduations
>stays out of controversies

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>>6719972
Putting a 1 song cameo to the same standards as a comeback stream is retarded.

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>>6720169
Nope. Most especially if people are starving for any sort of appearance from Haachama. If she declared this a week before with all faces showing then it would have driven more people in. Kanata is the biggest example of this.

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>>6720169
Anon you are underestimating how much haatons are missing her. But I am overestimating how much of Haachama's fanbase is still there.

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Peaked at 105k?

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>>6720250
107 I think. Wasn't paying attention

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>>6720270
>>6720250
108k

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Stream peaked at 108k, joining a very select group of streams in 2021 to have reached 100k

>491342 (peak) :: 卒業。 #桐生ココ卒業LIVE #GoodbyeCoco,卒業。 #桐生ココ卒業LIVE #GoodbyeCoco (coco)
>194140 (peak) :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】Gawr Gura #CatShark,【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】Gawr Gura #CatShark (gura)
>139393 (peak) :: 【#宝鐘マリン100万人記念ライブ / 3DLIVE】Connected Fantasia【ホロライブ】,【#宝鐘マリン100万人記念ライブ / 3DLIVE】Connected Fantasia【ホロライブ】 (marine)
>135527 (peak) :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL!】Grim Reaper's Brand New Style! 新衣装お披露目会!! #HololiveEnglish #CalliDrip,【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL!】Grim Reaper's Brand New Style! 新衣装お披露目会!! #HololiveEnglish #CalliDrip (calliope)
>126480 (peak) :: 【#大空スバル新衣装】90万人記念新衣装大発表会/NEW OUT FIT【ホロライブ/大空スバル】,【#大空スバル新衣装】90万人記念新衣装大発表会/NEW OUT FIT【ホロライブ/大空スバル】 (subaru)
>111367 (peak) :: 【 #桃鈴ねね新ビジュアル】NEW SUPERNENECHI【桃鈴ねね/ホロライブ】,【 #桃鈴ねね新ビジュアル】NEW SUPERNENECHI【桃鈴ねね/ホロライブ】 (nene)
>109792 (peak) :: 【 #百鬼あやめ新衣装 】新衣装お披露目会!!!やっときたあああ!!!,【 #百鬼あやめ新衣装 】新衣装お披露目会!!!やっときたあああ!!! (ayame)
*** rushia stream ranks here ***
>107020 (peak) :: 新衣装をお披露目してしまうのです!#桐生ココ新衣装,新衣装をお披露目してしまうのです!#桐生ココ新衣装 (coco)
>101843 (peak) :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】The Detective is a SPY! | OUTFIT HYPE!!!!! #glAMErous,【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】The Detective is a SPY! | OUTFIT HYPE!!!!! #glAMErous (amelia)
>100436 (peak) :: 【3DLIVE】あくあ色すーぱーみらくるどり〜む【#湊あくあ3Dライブ 】,【3DLIVE】あくあ色すーぱーみらくるどり〜む【#湊あくあ3Dライブ 】 (aqua)

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>>6720250
>>6720270
108k according to holostats.

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>>6720301
graph anon what is the count of 100k+ streams last year (or from when holostats started tracking till Jan 1 2021) for holo .

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>>6720296
>>6720301
>>6720338

3 Million yen or more in revenue from this steam (playboard not finished counting yet)

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>Ollie getting a windfall from Youtube recommending her stream next on the autoplay after Rushia's

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Well, Aqua is finally streaming after being bogged down in work.

I'm gonna guess 25kish for her singing stream. It has been a while, but Aqua sings on the regular and almost always archived. Also going up in the same slot as Pekora Minecraft.

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>>6719977
It's the setup up, and the build up.
Marine's had a full group song,
Rushia's was just focusing more on Rushia,
so the number will go and up and depending on who's on the screen similar to Kanata's 3D.
I predicted 130k last thread if it had followed Marine's setup, but it didn't.

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>>6720521
It feels like almost half of Aqua's streams these past few months have been comeback singing streams.

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>>6720380
Here are all 13 streams with 100k viewers in 2020 since Holostats started recording.
Is there any 100k+ stream missing in this list?

>2020-10-21 :: 145305 (peak) :: 【#さくらみこ復帰LIVE】ただいま!2周年&復帰LIVEI'm back Miko Live【hololive3DLIVE/さくらみこ】,【#さくらみこ復帰LIVE】ただいま!2周年&復帰LIVEI'm back Miko Live【hololive3DLIVE/さくらみこ】 (miko)
>2020-10-21 :: 140116 (peak) :: 【新衣装お披露目】ゴスロリが流行ってる中、団長は…???【白銀ノエル/ホロライブ】,【新衣装お披露目】ゴスロリが流行ってる中、団長は…???【白銀ノエル/ホロライブ】 (noel)
>2020-10-18 :: 137900 (peak) :: 【新衣装お披露目】キツくない、しかも発表付き!【ホロライブ/宝鐘マリン】,【新衣装お披露目】キツくない、しかも発表付き!【ホロライブ/宝鐘マリン】 (marine)
>2020-12-13 :: 129528 (peak) :: 【カミングアウト】ママにVtuberやってるって言う!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】,【カミングアウト】ママにVtuberやってるって言う!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】 (pekora)
>2020-12-31 :: 123926 (peak) :: 年末ホロライブ ~ゆくホロくるホロ2020~【#ゆくホロくるホロ2020】,年末ホロライブ ~ゆくホロくるホロ2020~【#ゆくホロくるホロ2020】 (hololive)
>2020-11-13 :: 119493 (peak) :: [UNARCHIVED KARAOKE] I sing #GAWRGURA,[UNARCHIVED KARAOKE] I sing #GAWRGURA (gura)
>2020-08-14 :: 113092 (peak) :: 【初配信】ホロライブ5期生、獅白ぼたん!【#ほろふぁいぶ】,【初配信】ホロライブ5期生、獅白ぼたん!【#ほろふぁいぶ】 (botan)
>2020-11-08 :: 109860 (peak) :: 【大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ】3期生コラボ!!スマブラ最強決定戦【潤羽るしあ/ホロライブ】,【大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ】3期生コラボ!!スマブラ最強決定戦【潤羽るしあ/ホロライブ】 (rushia)
>2020-07-05 :: 109528 (peak) :: 【#天音かなた3D】天音かなた3Dお披露目!いっぱい見てっ!【#JointhefutureJP】,【#天音かなた3D】天音かなた3Dお披露目!いっぱい見てっ!【#JointhefutureJP】 (kanata)
>2020-06-27 :: 108689 (peak) :: 【#桐生ココ3D】桐生ココ3Dお披露目!#ホロふぉーす始動! 【#JointhefutureJP】,【#桐生ココ3D】桐生ココ3Dお披露目!#ホロふぉーす始動! 【#JointhefutureJP】 (coco)
>2020-07-12 :: 105716 (peak) :: 【#角巻わため3D】角巻わため3Dお披露目!はじまるよ~!【#JointhefutureJP】,【#角巻わため3D】角巻わため3Dお披露目!はじまるよ~!【#JointhefutureJP】 (watame)
>2020-08-12 :: 103408 (peak) :: 【初配信】ホロライブ5期生の雪花ラミィです!【#ほろふぁいぶ】,【初配信】ホロライブ5期生の雪花ラミィです!【#ほろふぁいぶ】 (lamy)
>2020-11-15 :: 101171 (peak) :: 【新衣装お披露目】ついにドキドキの新衣装!!告知あり!【ホロライブ/紫咲シオン】,【新衣装お披露目】ついにドキドキの新衣装!!告知あり!【ホロライブ/紫咲シオン】 (shion)

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On other news. Petra is live. 2.5k. I don't know if this debut buff. This is low. https://youtu.be/MiLSzTInAv8

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>>6720566
Yea, as much as I miss her gaming streams, she's putting in her Idol reps really hard and doesn't want to burn out again.
Also ppppffft that opening....Ah Aqua.....

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>>6720521
PLAY MINECRAFT, AQUA

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>>6720601
Is this the power of cunny?

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>>6720586
For sake of completeness here is the 2021 list updated with today's stream

>2021-07-01 :: 491342 (peak) :: 卒業。 #桐生ココ卒業LIVE #GoodbyeCoco,卒業。 #桐生ココ卒業LIVE #GoodbyeCoco (coco)
>2021-05-07 :: 194140 (peak) :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】Gawr Gura #CatShark,【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】Gawr Gura #CatShark (gura)
>2021-07-03 :: 139393 (peak) :: 【#宝鐘マリン100万人記念ライブ / 3DLIVE】Connected Fantasia【ホロライブ】,【#宝鐘マリン100万人記念ライブ / 3DLIVE】Connected Fantasia【ホロライブ】 (marine)
>2021-05-03 :: 135527 (peak) :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL!】Grim Reaper's Brand New Style! 新衣装お披露目会!! #HololiveEnglish #CalliDrip,【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL!】Grim Reaper's Brand New Style! 新衣装お披露目会!! #HololiveEnglish #CalliDrip (calliope)
>2021-05-26 :: 126480 (peak) :: 【#大空スバル新衣装】90万人記念新衣装大発表会/NEW OUT FIT【ホロライブ/大空スバル】,【#大空スバル新衣装】90万人記念新衣装大発表会/NEW OUT FIT【ホロライブ/大空スバル】 (subaru)
>2021-01-31 :: 111367 (peak) :: 【 #桃鈴ねね新ビジュアル】NEW SUPERNENECHI【桃鈴ねね/ホロライブ】,【 #桃鈴ねね新ビジュアル】NEW SUPERNENECHI【桃鈴ねね/ホロライブ】 (nene)
>2021-05-02 :: 109792 (peak) :: 【 #百鬼あやめ新衣装 】新衣装お披露目会!!!やっときたあああ!!!,【 #百鬼あやめ新衣装 】新衣装お披露目会!!!やっときたあああ!!! (ayame)
>2021-07-18 :: 108004 (peak) :: 【 #潤羽るしあ2周年記念 】祝!3D LIVE !!【潤羽るしあ/ホロライブ】,【 #潤羽るしあ2周年記念 】祝!3D LIVE !!【潤羽るしあ/ホロライブ】 (rushia)
>2021-06-23 :: 107020 (peak) :: 新衣装をお披露目してしまうのです!#桐生ココ新衣装,新衣装をお披露目してしまうのです!#桐生ココ新衣装 (coco)
>2021-05-08 :: 101843 (peak) :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】The Detective is a SPY! | OUTFIT HYPE!!!!! #glAMErous,【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】The Detective is a SPY! | OUTFIT HYPE!!!!! #glAMErous (amelia)
>2021-05-09 :: 100436 (peak) :: 【3DLIVE】あくあ色すーぱーみらくるどり〜む【#湊あくあ3Dライブ 】,【3DLIVE】あくあ色すーぱーみらくるどり〜む【#湊あくあ3Dライブ 】 (aqua)

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>>6720601
To be fair its the morning in most of America and its a guerrilla stream, wait till the next scheduled stream to guage what her debut buff is like.

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>>6720601
fyi it has been confirmed that she is not shachi, being instead a chink, a bilibili regular and who even posted about supporting the One China Policy. News probably spread around and her hype died down.

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>>6720566
they aren't comeback singing streams since she isn't going on a break. she is just litteraly swamped with promotional work

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>>6720793
It's the weekend.
>>6720794
I thought that was a rrat. That's for real?

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>ongoing Holo streams so far

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>>6720855
It's still a guerrilla stream, and the weekend makes it even worse because more people would be sleeping in

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>>6720852
Officially not, but the gap between streams is so big every time they feel like it.

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>>6720601
Lmao this one is the chink shill.

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>>6720586
Thanks anon, I don't know if there are 100k+ streams before coco 3d because I'm a newfag.

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>>6720967
Anon... you just had a litter of EOPs watching Rushia in her 108k live.

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>>6721147
Coco was the first vtuber to ever hit 100k, 200k, 300k and 400k live viewers

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>>6720855
Yeah, didn't take long for someone to dig her up. She's even worse than the girl that tweets that she has a boyfriend.

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>>6720601
Niji doesn't have the brand power that Hololive has in the west yet. They're still in the growth stage.

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>>6720855
https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv8079964

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>>6721160
She has 3k live viewers now. I'm just pointing out Rushia as evidence that EOPs are awake now. It's perfect timing to stream now after a big live event.

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>>6721160
Because its a scheduled big event stream, not a guerrilla stream at ass crack o'clock

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>>6721297
Well.

If this hits the rounds and goes Viral, that WILL be bad for her long-term growth. Or maybe not, it's hard to predict these things.

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>>6721404
HoloEN has quite a few tw and hk fans so it will be interesting to see if NijiEN gets any. Or if mainlanders like them

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>>6720601
What's the number now?
Rushia just had a 108k livestream and since she is an EN alternative she should have a buff, add the debut buff with the bad timeslot debuff then this number should be higher than what she would get unless she gets viral.

Someone post NijiEN Gen1 first few streams.

>>6721297
I ain't reading chink shit. Screenshot that.

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>>6721297
>>6721404
No-one cares except a handful of asshurt cumbuds. It won't make any difference because Niji never started up a slapfight with China like Cover did. Its not relevant to Nijisanji, its not their fight.

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>>6721404
Won't take too long for rumors to hit the streets

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>>6721297
Well Niji markets in China so this isn't a problem...Holo EN getting Shachi however..

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>>6721404
People are already apologizing in her behalf saying she's just a little indie that is trying her best to make money. I honestly don't care. Niji has clear ties with China in everything. Be it tech, sponsorships or permissions. Having a talent that said something isn't going to move anything. This will probably mean her numbers will come from people that support talents like Artia no matter what happened or from China themselves.

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>>6721404
Anon, if you want to make it go viral just send me some money and I'll make do it for you.

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>>6721473
>I ain't reading chink shit. Screenshot that.
There's a whole thread about that somewhere if you typed in "niji"

>>6721481
Oh no, it's that chink shill

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>>6721508
Hmmm, wonder if Shachi in gen 2 can even replicate the success of Gura. Tbh all I know about her is that she has a million subs, tried listening to a song and didn't really grab me.

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... No longer a number thread, just a boring tribalist thread.

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>>6721517
See proof >6721481
People that fully support HoloEN and a major bulk of HoloJP are TW and Hong Kong. Pretty much anti-CN. There is no denying that. It's not just a handful.

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>>6721508
according to the rumor that predicted Shachi not being the penguin, she isnt joining hololive either, because she supposedly didnt apply for either, picking up a normalfag job instead

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>>6721297
the first western vtuber not to fall victim to american propaganda? based. mb i should give her a chance

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>>6721404
I don't think it will, the link between her and her past life isn't fully established so even if it does go viral unless petra herself acknowledges it it won't actually do shit, at worst it'd just be a catchphrase people throw around in places like this like the hololive reject thing.
On top of which, are you sure that's the same person?

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>>6721543
Shachi is just an Ina-lite with an uwu voice. I don't there is any clear distinction that can separate the two. Why would Cover hire another Ina when they are already have a bigger deal in Ina herself?

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>>6721629
well before she locked her twitter her likes were full of Holo related stuff.
and I mean obsessed fan amount.

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>>6721584
Once the numbers for the day are finalized in JP hours (1 and a half hours) we can proceed to throw numbers at each other instead.

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>>6721772
What site are anons gonna use? Playboard?

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>>6720013
>flare is best singer in gen 3
All of 3rd Gen will attest to this and Gen 1 apparently as well.

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>>6721772
So, where are we getting the numbers this time?

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>>6721481
Anon.. you forgot that most of nijiEN fanbase are holofags. And you know how the majority of holofags feel about bilibili and chinks

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>>6721756
oh no doubt she is a big fan, but being a fan and actually having the courage to try joining your idols are two different things.

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Kagami at 40.4k right now and pekora is at 36k.

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>>6720559
Marine has talk about her concert for weeks. She even post it on reddit. Rushia's concert just come out of nowhere. Actually 100k is pretty high for Hololive. Other concerts rarely hit 100k. 3rd gen still the strongest after all.

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>>6721297
good thing nijisanji is literallywho in the west.

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>>6721917
Coco's graduation was big enough for any retard to recognize it as an outlier, but people normally have their standards completely biased by what's at the top. I don't deny that it's more fun this way though.

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>>6721917
True, Noel has a closer fanbase size to Rushia's than Marine and even with a Last 3D Coco appearance before Graduation it got 75K. Which is still a lot.

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>>6721892
Redpill me on this stupid baseball game

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What's the niji EN guerilla stream numbers now?

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Rushia's 3D: 108k. Had collabs.
Aqua's 3D: 100k. No collabs.
Hopefully this serves as a lesson for the onion, she's having another 3D in another month or so if im not mistaken.

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>>6722162
4k above I presume?
can't go see because busy atm

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>>6722155
Niji's yearly koshien (summer HS baseball tourney)

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>>6722162
3k

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>>6722162
3.1k

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>>6722194
3.2k
>>6722190
Rushia had Okayu, Ayame and Shion. The irony. This fucking Inkya needs to step up her social skills

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>>6722155
Japan loves baseball.

It's also a way to get the rather disparate Niji fanbase together to watch something as usually they only stick to the 1-2 chuubas they like.

Also Ads. Lots of Ads to draw in normie/tourists.

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>>6722162
Artiafags sure love their new oshi

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>>6722078
Hololive just has too many concert. Birthday, anniversary, sponsor... Too many. People want something new. That why their new costume stream always get high number.

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Are chinks and TW fighting it out in the threads? Hilarious! I would laugh if they would spam streams and inadvertently cause nijiEN to go viral.

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>>6722190
Aqua doesn't have friends though

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>>6722015
Those graphs are almost useless.
>Percentages
>No context of date
>Nijisanji and Hololive in separate graphs

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>>6721917
Yea, it's still high for an event that focus more on a single talent than a whole group.
If I revise my calculation based of the appearance, it would be:
Rushia - 10k
Pekora - 25k

40k baseline + 40k box push + 20% tourist = 90k

100k is at least 10% higher. The growth is there.

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>>6722258
They've drowning with sponsors this past year huh. Guess it's nice to take as much as they can for future investment i guess.

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>>6722155
it is a baseball game tournament with heavy ads for normalfag tourists. And baseball is japan's national sport for some reason.

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>>6721481
All western vtubers borrow a lot of their viewership from Hololive and Hololive fans hate China.

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>>6722246
What I have always wondered if the guests get anything other than free lunch for showing up in these 3D lives. It certainly looks like the songs were minimally choreographed as well which means they took some time off their paying day for this. Shion and Ayame notwithstanding since those two don't stream on a regular schedule.

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>>6722281
those graphs are from when google trends nijishitter was still posting.

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>>6722155
Baseball VGame collab between a lot of Niji members, last time organized by Maimoto, it became a yearly thing.
3 of the 2020 streams were the highest live viewed things in the Vtuber world for like a year, till Gura's Catshark costume reveal. 191k for the baseball finale.

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>>6722311
It's the only sport they're good at.

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>>6722330
I just hope non of you faggots harrass her over this stupid shit. She was but a small timer hustling that chuuba live. DONT JUDGE!

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>>6722258
Dude. They barely did 3D during the lockdown. They are only now doing these on a regular because they were backed up. Marine for one should have been done 6 months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722275
To be honest, I don't know if a Coco situation a good thing in an english market especially now that english twitter seems to be overly political, it'll have a higher percentage of failing unlike last year w/c is like 50/50, but who knows

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722380
>asking /vt/ not to judge

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722380
I really wish you did not make this statement, it will only incentives those who just want to fuck people over to do it more

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722538
> t. falseflagging tribalfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722190
Rushia is not nearly as deep into the solo idol game as Aqua is. Increasing the number of solo lives in her portfolio is the right move for Aqua.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722574
I am serious man, judging by the nature of this website

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722437
>political
The word you are looking for is racist.

DESU wolf warrior mentality isn't helping the zhangs get a good image especially to the EN audience who has to suffer the spam in chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722258
They used to do a hell of a lot more casual 3D streams in 2019, but most of us got into vtubers in 2020 during lockdown. They could barely do any then, outside of that small window in summer when 4th Gen got their 3D debuts and all the August bdays had 3D streams too.

[Anonymous No.]

So realistically when can we expect a replacement numberfag site?

[Anonymous No.]

this place without VNUMA doesn't feel right...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722717
It's because there's no niji version of holostats

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722716
When you make one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722717
>First Coco killed tribal numberfags(well mostly)
>Then Vnuma dying
the numbers thread changed very drastically this month..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722636
I Deserve Mockery

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722756
why is that? i remember niji webpage having proudly shown their (at the time) achievements so why did none of them bother making something for easier numberfaging?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722832
Hololive happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722190
>Aqua
>Collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722756
I'm surprised there hasn't been one made already.
Then again, given the way Niji is structured I guess it's harder to motivate someone to put in the time to get something like that set up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722756
Wasn't there a japanese version that was super accurate?
No idea how to search for it though, because moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722832
What achievements do you think they will put in their page now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722716
>when can we expect a replacement numberfag site?
>>6722766
>When you make one.
I’m genuinely considering. Holostats is open source, adapting it would be easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722960
Would make numberfagging the nijisanji side a lot easier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722960
Gotta ask Holodex to make a special tab for peak numbers since they track most vtuber streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723006
Yeah, but niji’s problem is that without a critical mass of western audience there is no incentive for westerners to do any type of fan work be it art, music, clips or web development.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722960
Vnuma had such a bad website because it tracked everything that is a vtuber.
Creating a website was always the question of how much resources (money and time) Is a person gonna devote into this and is it worth it to constantly maintain it.?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723044
If (big if) I do it I would just extend Holostats and add a public
>submit a channel
form where people would fill
>name
>company
>profile pic
>channel link
And after manually vetted it would be added to the stats. That would make it much easier to include even the most obscure chuubas without overwhelming the unpaid system administrator

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723044
That could be a solution
The devs often update the site and listen to suggestions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723122
There is ZERO work maintaining a site like that and the cost would be in the two digits dollars a month IF it gets a lot of traffic.

[Anonymous No.]

Irys just hit 500k. I miss the days when 500k is enough reason for holo chuubas to hold a concert for it or setup a whole damn special event for it. Not anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723263
>Not anymore.
I don’t know. IRyS seems to be a special case, I don’t know if a subsequent JP gen would reach 500k that fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723386
Her face is definitely a special case

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723263
I won't be surprised if IRyS could debut first in 3D than the rest of HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722538
>implying that wasn't his purpose

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723523
Mori and Iris are likely since both are living in Japan. ID 1 had to be skipped to get to Gen 5 first

[Anonymous No.]

>Fubuki and Matsuri making an (authorized) anime appearance
https://youtu.be/3703VJRSq98

Slow and steady, Holos are surely upping their corporate collab game

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723523
>>6723601
I was genuinely surprised IRyS model wasn’t 3D from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723628
>chuuni young AZKi
chuuni young AZKi

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723663
Nah man. They are rushing Holostars and then HoloID. It's likely that she HoloEN including Irys will get their 3D together next year. Right before the next HoloFes3 or even Bloom. They can rush it if they outsource it like what they did with Lamy. The only time they can skip ahead of other chuubas is sponsorships just like what happened with the GoodSmile contract. It's skipping HoloID and Stars altogether.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723900
Every model is outsourced.
Cover doesn't make their own 3D Vtuber models.

[Anonymous No.]

Has the nijien stream ended yet? what's the peak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723628
Next will be Jahy-sama wa Kujikenai! ED

[Anonymous No.]

Give him the noombers already, don't torture him

[Anonymous No.]

Gotta kneel to Ollie
>expanding her audience to the most unexpected circles
Math and chess. Who the fuck would even imagine that?
There is a reason she’ll end up catching up to Moona if the current pace keeps and PekoMoona off collab doesn’t happen first

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724310
Some of the games are getting very viral even with nips
https://youtu.be/zrsVB7XCrNA

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724310
Man, I love it. She's soooo bad, this is probably the best outcome entertainment wise. If she turned out to be a chess god that would be amazing but not nearly as much of a meme as "This zombie has no brains".

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724564
Trying to enter that market as the cute but dumb mascot is a big brain move, gotta admit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6723628
Can we talk about holo in /a/ now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724310
>>6724465
after her math streams she's gotten the numberchads' blessing, no wonder she is inclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724564
Pretty sure that's why she was invited.
Especially since she's friends with the hosts, they knew how entertaining it would be to have her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724564
Here is one of the funniest moments so far
>her opponent doing some hyper focused moments
>Ollie just popopopopopopopop ing away obliviously
End result
>Ollie wins
https://youtu.be/NoSxhIdnFcA

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724717
so did she pass to the next stage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724757
Hahahah, yes! She was down, her opponent has a sure checkmate and blundered and stalemated it to a tie.
Then he didn’t realize the tie breaker was on a timer and lost on time

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724654
They are already seething in the /a/ thread >>225677621

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724654
>>6724654
They are already seething in the /a/ thread
>>225677621

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, I didn't know this stream was scheduled? too much sleep shit

Sorry bros, I could have added +1 live view

I'm starting the vod now, Rushia's idol steps are cuter!

[Anonymous No.]

lel tourist can't even crossboard link properly

[Anonymous No.]

>>6721795
>>6721806

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724977
Cuter than what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725109
> Strawberry Prince dominating the ranking
Holobros and nijibros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725109
Who are those people in 13,14 and 17-20? To get 25k is impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725227
>>6725215

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725227
5th and 9th place also.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725215
>>6725326
If they had vtuber models, they'd be so powerful. But, I realize they've been grinding since 4 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725109
>>6725215
Homolive still provides the best all-female contents.
Manjisanji on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6722913
>What achievements do you think they will put in their page now?
Most popular male vtubers in the industry?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725416
They actually have them
https://youtu.be/8bK7lkbLs3s

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725494
Strawberry Prince has that title now

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725546
Are these chuubas or singers? Or are these just facecam trend hoppers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725592
> now
And sodapoppin is the first 3 million subscribers/followers vtuber, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725867
They are singers. They technically have a live2d but they are really closer to, say, ado than a vtuber
>>6725884
He hasn't even broken the 2mil barrier

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720013
Sorry

>Marine is definitely the best singer overall in Gen 3 that anyone actually gives a shit about

[Anonymous No.]

I've been wondering. How hard is it to setup a tracking site if you have no programming knowledge?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727478
About as hard as writing a Japanese book without knowing Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727842
So, Google Translate and call it a day?

[Anonymous No.]

Daily gained subscribers for IRyS, on socialblade

[Anonymous No.]

>>6728029
Yeah, my point exactly

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724310
>142 elo
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers today:
1. Rushia (HL) - 3D Concert - 108k
2. Kuzuha (Niji) - Apex Tourney FFL - 44k
3. Kagami (Niji) - Baseball arc - 40.4k
4. Pekora (HL) - Minecraft - 39k
5. Kaede (Niji) - Baseball arc - 35k

Pic: Yesterday's superchats

[Anonymous No.]

>>6728118
I'd like some numbers on her EP sales, onegaishimasu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725416
The sameface here is strong. Also do they share character designs as Korone? looks similar

[Anonymous No.]

Doesn’t Gura stream at 5-6 PDT? Will moving IRyS to stream directly over Gura ultimately hurt IRyS numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731528
It's definitely possible, but who knows for sure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731528
Finally this roastie hag will know her place

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731528
Gura dans don’t watch the rest of Hololive anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731836
Fans*

[Anonymous No.]

Gura viewers tend to be very loyal, so forcing them to choose which to watch, is going to be very one-sided.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731836
>Gura dans don’t watch the rest of Hololive anyways.
They really don't if the significant dip in viewership whenever she collabs is an indication. The only collabs they want are the ones with her chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731528
Gura would transition to a post game zatsudan when IRyS starts streaming, so it will hurt a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

So, would you consider Niji EN 2's launch a "failure"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732222
Needs another week to tell. Right now is post debut hype.
All 6 overlapping isn’t going to help them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732222
pretty much 0 growth and mediocre chubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732348
Not really. It took NijiEN wave 1 a week to reach 50k and now the cunny is approaching 60k in just the 1st day after debut. The other two might reach 50k in 3 days so that’s an improvement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732222
It didn't fail but it didn't succeed either. The penguin is a major disappointment for those that were hoping she was Shachi because they were banking on her to be NijiEN's ace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732222
Not a success but not a complete failure either. The live views being on par with the first wave means that they do have an audience but the audience has barely grown from when they started. Also personally, except for Rosemi, Wave 2 was kind of a letdown. The Penguin specifically was someone I thought would explode in popularity and she still kinda is but I think that's more to do with her design than the actual person behind it. If Sen was the one behind that avatar, even without the Holobuff she'd be a 1mil subs chuuba in 6 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731528
Depends on if Gura streams for the next day or two. We know for sure that she's at least present in some way since she retweeted some fan-art, but there's a pretty good possibility that at least for today, she won't be streaming over Gura.
>>6732144
>Gura would transition to a post game zatsudan when IRyS starts streaming, so it will hurt a bit.
Yes, and there's a core contingent of Gura's fanbase in the PST zone that will stick around for that Zatsudan/SC reading that's about......8-10k? in size, based on what I've seen over the past few weeks where she at least tries to read as many SCs as she can.

It's hard to say though, today's game is very likely a make/break on how the community perception of her is molded. If she ends up attracting a fanbase that overlaps heavily with Gura, then she takes pretty big hits by streaming over her. If she instead attracts a calmer chat similar to Ina, then I can see her not taking nearly as bad of a hit.

As a Gura member, gods her chat is blazing fast and is like Twitch-chat Lite, since the sheer number of members means slow-mode does nearly nothing.

So I'll say...if Gura streams today, IRyS starts below 20k and maybe exceeds it after Gura ends her gameplay.

If Gura isn't streaming today, expect at least 20k to tune in to how IRyS wrangles this Kusoge for novelty's sake, maybe 25k tops.

[Anonymous No.]

Watame picking all the audience left without anything else in the time slot. Smart sheep, she truly loves streaming it clearly shows

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732432
Only people inside this site expected that shit to happen saying that she is the gura killer. No one was disappointed outside this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732400
debut streams had the same live viewers as lazulight. More subs is encouraging but you have to ask where the fuck those 100k subs of lazulight were during the actual streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732479
Just a normal day for sheep. Might as well call this the Watame strategy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732479
>>6732561
Kiara is also putting on some off hours but EN audience is not as eager

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732400
you mean the week before their debut, anonchama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732590
You'd need a vtuber that's non-polarizing and has general appeal like Ina or IRS too pull it off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6721481
If you trying to get into the en market then being close to China is a mistake. Nijisanji can have an cn brand but as long as that brand stay in bilibili people wouldn’t care since they don’t even know they exist but using a Chinese girls to try and attract the en market is a pretty bad move.

[Anonymous No.]

If Mori continues to pump out music will she surpass Rabbit and Dog?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725867
Utaite who play as young anime boys. They have Live2D but I wouldn't count them the same way you shouldn't count mafumafu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724310
Lol, i didn't even notice the other guy went to -620 for this loss

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732222
Compared to hololive, definitely. Compared to the likes of prism project, 774, and other such small agencies, they are wildly successful. I guess it all depends on if you see nijisanji as a direct competitor to hololive or on the same tier as prism project, cyberlive, and the other half dozen small start ups that've cropped up after the Holo boom

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/holo_analyticsV?s=09
This twitter account is a useful record for hololive milestone numbers now that vnuma is dead.
I believe there's a similar account for nijisanji but I don't remember it off the top of my head

[Anonymous No.]

>>6734185
Their subs are converging, with Pekora and Calli about the same 30 days growth and Korone a little behind.
I say Calli catches up to Pekora in September IF (big if) Pekora still isn’t able to off collab with Moona near the later field trip to Japan and 3D debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6735089
https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

[Anonymous No.]

>>6735875
Pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>6735875

[Anonymous No.]

Two things
1) Aruran is getting mad numbers. It clearly pays off to drive a narrative on Minecraft, it clearly drives interest and being attention. He’s also lucky he benefited from all the attention brought by Kanata on the struggle to fine a blue umpa.
2) it is weird to see most of the boys over 100k subs. Only two missing and they’re a couple months away
3) The tutorial true boss (Choco Sub) is picking 2k subs a week / 9k a month. That’s the “Holobuff” in a very quantified measure and all of the Hololads are at very least matching the 30 days number now. Well, two aren’t but they’re very close.

Many indies (and some corporate) would sell their cunnies for 9k/month and over 100k total. Props to the lads and to Choco sub, the one true tutorial boss.

[Anonymous No.]

Guess this is why you don't all stream at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

Mio and Ame will be streaming 25 mins apart as well. I'm pretty sure Mio will get bigger numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>6738659
really high numbers for an early morning stream for korosan

[Anonymous No.]

>>6739086
Morning streams are a buff in Japan. Gotta watch something before going to work/school I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6739124
It's an MC stream with Sakura Miko. The viewership is divided between EOPs and Japs

[Anonymous No.]

>>6739124
it really wasnt for marine or kanata recently, for example

[Anonymous No.]

>>6739279
Marine got 24k in the morning. Korone is at 22k now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6739124
>Morning streams are a buff in Japan.
Mio and Lamy don't seem to get that buff during their morning streams. These numbers are the usual MC buff, plus the extra buff that comes whenever a member logs in after a long time without playing, plus the Miko collab bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6739397
24k for a special blue upalumpa gacha stream and she actually even got the blue fucker. She'd get way higher if on prime time.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is just a holobr*ny circlejerk now, boring. No one is tracking Koshien numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

the tribal schizo just woke up

[Anonymous No.]

>>6719587
Why do you only post the last 60 minutes. You can make anyone you want look good doing it that way

[Anonymous No.]

>>6739731
yup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6738659
>>6739397
>>6739564
It's Sunday for NA.
Usually Gura would have a good stream with 30k audience, but since she's unavailable, Mori is doing a karaoke instead.
I think she'll get 20k for archieved karaoke. 30k for unarchieved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6739646
They you coulda given the numbers instead of sounding like a passive-agressive fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>6739646
sorry
hayato: 40k
deron: 35k
how do i even get accurate live views per vid anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6740064
wasnt her last 30k karaoke something special? I'll admit i cant remember much though.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBm92okKK-o
>had around 2k-7k live viewers the whole stream
>gets 119k views at the end of the stream
kiara's numbers confuse me. the live viewers are meh but the total views are good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6741464
>greater proportion of total views to live views
that's every EN, Irys included

[Anonymous No.]

>>6741464
>5 hours stream
cmon now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6742095
Does that mean westerns have short attention span?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6742319
unironically yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6741464
It's a long stream where people come and go. 1 view is 30 secs. Like you said the range was unstable so that means people load up her stream over and over just to check if she's still streaming. That's the advantage of streaming long. The amount of likes (13k) gives you a rough idea of how many people atleast stayed to give her a view. You can estimate from there how many load up the stream again and again. We know for a fact that not everyone clicks the like when they watch something. I don't. So let's just atleast 25% does that means at least 52k people visited her stream and jumped out twice during the whole duration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6742515
>counting multiple times
you're thinking replays, which mean watching a video as a whole multiple times. If you keep opening and closing the same long stream it will only count you once and keep adding up to your watch total - better watch totals are still good for the algorithm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6725416
This. I remember one of their collab have 150k viewers. Nothing special, just a collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6742515
>That's the advantage of streaming long. The amount of likes (13k) gives you a rough idea of how many people atleast stayed to give her a view
i would say that something exlcusive to holos and their EOPs fanbase. Kuzua videos are also long but likes and engagement are abysmall compared to his live views.im refering to using likes as ametric.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6742926
Not exactly. The algorithm will stop counting your refresh for the day if you loop it multiple times which is mostly like more than 4-5 times. Watching and then going back to check on the stream again is still a view.

https://growtraffic.com/blog/2017/08/youtube-video-counts-view

https://www.tubics.com/blog/what-counts-as-a-view-on-youtube/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6743406
> t.kpop fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>6742319
Of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6743710
Nah dude. Looping is a thing that people do even with holofans. Everytime there is a new release people with loop it. All I'm saying is that looping does not work but going back to the stream will still count as individual views for the day to a certain degree. People are averaging it to 4-5 times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6743850
Another thing that helps views "organically" are timestamps. If you go back to just watch 1 section because you probably came from a clip, you are a view. But this is besides the point already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6743406
Pic from your own article. This blog is not the actual source for any of the info it is giving, by the way.
And it adds up not from just skipping, refreshing it still does the same. Then, when youve watched the entire length, it start counting for multiple views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6744351
As long as you stay for 30secs. I mean people stay longer than that. But then they do tab out or watch/do something else and then come back. You can see it clearly from Kiara's latest vid that that is what people are doing. People come and go all throughout even at peaks.

[Anonymous No.]

New NijiEN girls seem to be getting around 2-3k live viewers.
Elira doing a long meme stream doesn't help the new girls much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6744705
>tabbing in and back out
you are mistaking getting counted or not at the very moment on the Live Viewers Numbers (you may appear on minute 1, then 30 then 3 hours later) with the count of total views which you see on the vod library (still just +1).

[Anonymous No.]

>>6744891
Nope. You are considered 1 view if you watched 30 secs of a live stream or a vod. If you close the stream and then open it again and then stay for 30secs that is considered 2 views that you contributed. You are counted as 1 live viewer sure but views wise they are counted individually. You can contribute up to 4-5 times until the system stops counting you because you look like a bot now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6745079
>You can contribute up to 4-5 times until the system stops counting you because you look like a bot now.
4-5 times each day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6745079
are you this stubborn or just stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6744864
The price they paid for going full CN

[Anonymous No.]

>>6744864
Why are they already overlapping this early into the game? One'd expect Wave 1 to give Wave 2 livers some space for a week or two to solidify their bases first (not counting collabing with each other, of course)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6745629
>One'd expect Wave 1 to give Wave 2 livers some space for a week or two to solidify their bases first
That would assume an expectation of collaboration between the livers. Aren’t them all being cornered into an increasingly smaller corner given that Niji’s commercial strategy is not “box pushing” but “survival of the fittest”?

Wave 1 livers stands to benefit zero from reducing their activity, that would cost them momentum, income and gain them nothing.
Notice I’m not implying it is not a valid strategy, just highlighting what could be the cause

[Anonymous No.]

>>6745629
Usually in niji you're on your own + they plan to have many vtubers like they do in JP, so no point in having rules against overlapping

[Anonymous No.]

>>6745167
Live views and total views are totally different. Again. If you stay for at least 30 seconds and then close it you are considered 1 view. If you come back and open it again and stay for more than 30 secs you are considered another view. There is a reason why playbacks is part of the metrics. They want to know how many actually come back and how long do they stay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6746082
last time im gonna repeat this for you, anonchama.
>once youve watched 30 seconds (added up all your skips and refreshes), you count +1 on the total view
>once youve watched the video's full legth, and only then, you'll start counting multiple times on the total views
>being tabbed in or out on the stream only matters for the live viewers count. But you even being tabbed out and just listening to the video for the whole period (which has you never count as a live viewer) still counts you as +1 for the total views anyways. Even if you only watched it live, the two items above are what counts you for the total view. If you refresh, or close/come back later to the same live, you only count as one total view, but your watch times get added up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6746455
-You don't have to watch the entirety of the video to be counted as another view. An organic refresh is counted. On spammy ones such as loops are not counted.
-You assume that people stay and use the stream like a podcast which is not the case for everyone.
The post metric anon are Total Views, Playbacks (one account and how many times they come back) and watch time. Using playback alone tells you who are not subscribed. They use this as a counter for numberfagging milestones because they know how many people watch them but are not subscribed. Playback alongside watchtime already paints you a clear picture of why your total views are the way that they are. If your playbacks are mostly your own subs and the frequency adds up to your current total view then that means you don't have any tourist you can numberfag
https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/how-does-youtube-count-views

[Anonymous No.]

>>6747281
This is the reason why some do a milestone challenge when they are only 1k away and some do it even when they are 8k away. They know there are tourists lurking that are watching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6747281
>>6747586
So the point here is the factor of Playbacks. If it is a natural playback then it will be counted as a view/s. Only spammy behavior are removed. As you can see from below they don't discredit refresh but they do discredit simultaneous viewing from the same account on different devices.

>To verify that metrics are accurate, YouTube may temporarily slow down, freeze, or change your metric count, and DISCARD low-quality playbacks.

Note: Using several devices to watch the same video and streaming the same video across several windows and tabs are examples of low-quality playbacks

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2991785?hl=en

[Anonymous No.]

>ITT: Overlapping
It doesn't matter if it's Hololive or Nijisanji (or any of the other agencies), they will grow in size beyond what can be managed and overlapping will be inevitable. The only way that you can mitigate this is if you set up fixed streaming schedules for all chuubas so that much of the same audience is conditioned to want to watch as many of them as possible. There will be those who will not bother with anyone other than their oshi, but that is to be expected. For the rest of the audience, giving them constant available entertainment is simply better for retention.

Assuming you are a manager and had to deal with this, how would you go about it?

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>>6748512
>much of the same audience is conditioned to want to watch as many of them as possible
NEETbros...
As a manager, I would say it'd depends on your streamers, if they're content with having fixed streaming schedule or not.

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>>6748512
Yeah, if you want non-overlapping schedules and micromanaged talents, you're just asking for black company stuff. Let them organically (as much as possible, anyways) figure out their own schedules, content, styles, etc. The audiences will come when they want to come.

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>>6748512
Nothing for overlapping. Don't go around with preferential treatment outside of special events at most.
Forcing people to stream in specific timeslots is the wrong way to do it.
There's also the catch-22 where no one streams in certain hours, so no one watches. Because no-one watches, no one wants to stream in certain hours.
If I was management, I'd list hours that I believe are 'underutilized' and suggest someone stream in that time if they're interested.

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>>6749399
I think they schedule their streams online where the other girls can see. I don't know if Irys already has access to it though. JP girls I believe just check the schedule or discord to see if anyone has a special event or announcement. The girls naturally give way for events and special announcements. As far as scheduling, at the same time, it's inevitable for JP because it's so big but EN still has some leeway and I think they just naturally decide to not overlap with someone else. When I saw Irys's sched I was wondering if Ame would overlap with her since she sometimes do a guerrilla stream at the same... Lo and behold.. She did. She's at 8.6k right now and rising with Ame at 19k

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>>6750660
Yea, ame doing an odd thing at this time is pretty 'normal' considering she did that classical music thing with the spinning chibis a few weeks back.

Also yea they have an internal thing for that no doubt, but it looks like Ame's got at most another 15 minutes in her. We'll see how IRyS looks after Ame finishes.

[Anonymous No.]

Any estimates on when HoloEN 2 drops?

[Anonymous No.]

After Ame ends the stream Irys got 2k views, not as much as I expected. The overlap wasn't affecting Irys that much so she can stream at that time slot without worrying about Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1416956248293920770
Nijisanji's pulling the trigger on a new JP wave. Like mentioned previously, I'm betting whoever strikes first will garner a lot of attention since it's been a year since the last big JP debut for both hololive and nijisanji.

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>>6755751
>4 guys 1 girl
jesas

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>>6755813
Perfectly calculated. Even number of guys so fujoshis can pair them off and one girl so yumejoshis can self-insert.

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>>6755662
In a week or two is the current guess.
A HoloJP drop out of nowhere would be crazy too seeing how NijiJP just announced their wave after almost a full year of no waves.

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>>6755751
>Pulled the trigger after their second english wave was a wet fart.

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>>6755813
I wonder if this is for group dynamic reasons or just cause there were more guys to pull from

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>>6755751
There was no hype built around them, they just drop one day on a twitter post.

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>>6756175
The hype generates itself from the year-long wait.

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>>6756225
They're being debut at 1pm JST on a Thursday.
Guess no prime time spotlight?

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>>6756225
Doubt the hype is that high anyway, it'll be the usual 15-30k for their debuts and niji will call it a day. They're debut is a day before Olympics and during the baseball arc

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>>6756338
>>6756421
I don't remember Serene having particularly good time slots either. Given that niji has grown since the last year (see: baseball stream) it'd definitely be disappointing if they don't see a comparable increase for a debut showing.

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>>6756421
>They're debut is a day before Olympics and during the baseball arc
why are they like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>6756679
Small black company, please understand.

Jokes aside, what bad timing. I can only guess that they MUST have an insider in Hololive or someone told them directly when gen 6 is coming.

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>>6757179
It's funny how July suddenly became debut month.
All eyes pointed at Hololive again.

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>>6757179
If they have an insider in Hololive wouldn't they have avoided debuting at the same time as gen 5 last year?

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>>6757290
Well last year they tried to knock the wind out of Gen 5 and it failed.
Maybe they're trying again?
What's weird was it wasn't during their usual time of Wednesday 12pm JST

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>>6757290
See >>6756338
Why would they care about who holo debut when they are very casual with their own debut

[Anonymous No.]

I don't watch utawakus much but I happened to catch Mori's today, and it had me thinking, which cuuba generates the biggest numbers with them?

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>>6757548
Gura.

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>>6757548
Gura, duh..

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>>6757589
>>6757573
aside from gura, I guess

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>>6757548
Gura holds the highest record 119k+
>2020-11-13 :: 119493 (peak) :: [UNARCHIVED KARAOKE] I sing #GAWRGURA,[UNARCHIVED KARAOKE] I sing #GAWRGURA (gura)

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>>6755751
AND YOU SAID MANSANJI IS NOT REAL AHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>6757707
Suisei

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>>6757539
Because if they debut too late, they'll quickly be forgotten. This way, it'll guarantee at least 3-5k viewers on normal streams while also killing a bit of momentum Holostars are having

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>>6757707
Suisei has the highest consistent singing numbers after Gura.

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>>6755751
>Just debuted wave 2 of their EN branch yesterday
>Is now debuting a new batch not even a week after
Why is Anykara like this?

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>>6757915
NijiJP and HoloJP have different audiences.

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>>6757928
They're also releasing with merch and voicepacks apparently, they're really confident all of a sudden.

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>>6757707
Okay okay.
Suisei has established herself as the one to listen to on the JP side. She's worked hard at it too and is now pulling 30k+ whenever she does it. Hers are usually archived too.

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>>6757928
>EN debut has heightened interest in Nijisanji overseas
>now releases a JP wave to capitalize on increased EOP interest, letting them create a boom like hololive did
It's a simple and smart strategy.

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>>6757942
Nah, it's their usual numbers. Long time members get less than 5K on normal streams except for the obvious popular ones like chihiro or fuwa

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>>6757915
They're scared of Holostars? Has Niji fallen that low or is Holostars really that big now?

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>>6758119
Holostars is still hitting 1.4k with their highest guy

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>>6758119
Not that big, but they have a momentum going on right seeing how they're seeing frequently at the moment. Just seeing them hitting 500+ casually is enough.

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>>6758307
Okay I'm drunk when I wrote this. They've been streaming frequently*

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>>6758014
If it's really is their strategy, then i suggest they do more reps on where their EOP fanbase came from

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>>6758307
They are really inclining now. They have an event coming right?

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>>6757707
Aside from Gura, Suisei.
Aside from Suisei, Marine? Marine gets around 25k I believe.
Aqua gets 20k-ish but she rarely streams so I don't know how much of a factor that is.

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>>6758417
Yes, 2021 has been a good year for the stars, with them getting their 3d and all the events they've been doing.

>>6758413
Kek. As much as people like to bitch about 'clipfaggots and clipchannels', the ones that don't go TOO far have a huge effect on drawing in new people who get too close to the edge.

Click on a clip, then another, and suddenly your entire recommended is filled to the brim with HoloEN + translated clips. The week after, you've watched 15 hours of streams and oh where did the time go and why is the sun up?

The fanbase for male streamers in EN speaking countries....well, they're heavily slanted towards Twitch already. There isn't the level of Niji clip dominance in the english market, and It's a very, very long, slow grind to build the fanbase up in an established market.

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>>6758413
If you're suggesting the NijiEN fanbase consists of HoloEN watchers, that's even better. It means they have a chance to convert the HoloJP-watching EN fans to NijiJP.

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Irys is reading SC now with Noel, Mori and Choco live. She's at 5.2k right now. She was stable all throughout at 10-11k. If this is her stable number even with a debuff game then that means she's going to have better live view numbers. Question now is what her SC and Subs will look like. She was like Kiara through through with less cursing but 100% stacy mommy attitude. It worked out for me because her voice is really good. Very entertaining stream personally. She's so active and talkative. She really enjoyed that shitty game. Another thing is that she does not translate her nip convo at all.

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>>6758698
Predicting with current numbers seems dubious. It still is honeymoon period anon, despite her lower than normal numbers because of the Ame overlap.

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>>6758628
Wouldn't that just make the case for it being in Cover's best interest to drop their new gen soon?
By waiting everyone out like this they can just steal all the focus after everyone debuts.

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>>6758628
As if it's going to be that easy. Anykara doesn't know what they're doing. They're just creating tourists.

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>>6758628
Anon how many TLs are there in NijijJP stream? How many are collabing frequently?
The magic of hololive is that when you get hooked by someone, you get dragged down into liking everyone else due to the constant interaction.
If they do get a surge of HoloEN watchers they will just experience it for a stream then fizzle out because of how unfriendly it is to EOP.

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>>6758847
Dude. If Irys is any indication, debuting no matter the date is not a factor. That girl had just bad marketing. It's just the community spreading the word. Even the girl couldn't promote herself on Twitter.

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>>6759024
>the community spreading the word
This is bad for the planning team of Holo because it means that they aren't expanding outside of the clip watcher audience.

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>>6759141
>clip watcher community
I will say this much. Cover needs to bring video editors in house and have them upload clips/reels of their streams since that will generate move revenue for them than the streams alone.

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>>6758982
NijiJP has an official clip channel with EN subs that's updated far more frequently than anything HoloJP has. If they want TLs for clips they won't be lacking for it.

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>>6759141
>clip watcher audience
kek you're seriously underestimating the fanbase. Just having a debut post on reddit easily gets them more than 10k upvotes and get featured in r/all. Not to mention, twitter shilling by all of the members. What do you mean it's bad for the planning team anyway?

>>6759417
Too bad it's not gonna be favoured by the algo. You need a mix of good translation channels and clickbait channels to get recommended.

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>>6759398
Ame was hiring an editor a while back for stream highlights but I don't think she ever gave an update since the community post went up.

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>>6758982
If they like guys they'll be in luck because they dominate the translated clips

[Anonymous No.]

so i just recently realized this, why does nijisanji have their own topic on twitter while hololive don't?

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>>6759504
>>6759417
Yea. As much as people bitch about "Muh steal-viewing clipfaggots' Cover understands that it's a give and take. So long as they don't go overboard and botch translations horribly/clickbait too hard, they're gaming YT's algo HARD for them. It's ideal for many, many different channels to be clipping a wide variety of Hololive things rather than having just one or two 'Official' clip channels.

For curiosity's sake, just opened up a new incognito window and watched Reflect. YT recommends suddenly everything Hololive. I doubt it'd be nearly THAT bad on an established account, but all it takes is literally one Hololive video to drop someone into the pit.

IMO, If/When Gura drops something that can hit mainstream like an Acoustic guitar original that blows everyone out of the water, her subcount is gonna skyrocket AGAIN, and a new wave of people are gonna get dragged into at least giving HoloEn a watch.

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I wonder just how many more live viewers some of these streamers have than are being shown.
This VOD from Nov. 17 has almost 248k views and had 28.7k max live views and 24.5k average live views duration was about 2:11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PrcEUr6PY4
This VOD from Jun. 29 has almost 264k views and had 17.3k max live views and 14k average live views duration was 2:14.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FmlfHVVR_U
The views on these two VODs make absolutely no sense unless an extremely large number of live views were purged especially given how long the VOD from Nov. has had to accumulate views.

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>>6760058
EN base viewing habits have changed, perhaps?

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>>6758543
15-20k for Aquas singing is pretty normal from what i remember from last year

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>>6760294
In what realistic way would they have changed, especially since these are both Ina VODs.
The same streamer shouldn't have that much deviation. There is clearly an issue with the live view count.

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>>6760454
Same fanbase, more of them deciding to watch the VOD rather than catching it live. Adds up to the same in the end as far as VOD views are concerned.

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>>6760019
They bought it.

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>>6760454
Changes in how live-views are tracked + cycled types of fans (Those that are willing to accept viewing the vod vs those that have to catch it live now that they've been around for a few months).

Timelooping the speculations, it's either Ad-block = not adding to the live viewer count or tabbed out = not counting to the count as the most likely causes.

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>>6760553
Highly doubtful there would all of a sudden be more VOD watchers especially given that one of those VODs is 8 months old and the other 2-3 weeks.
There was a 10k difference in live views which usually makes an insane difference in the total view count.

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>>6760058
Hmmm, the likes are 19k (Nov 2020) vs 20k (Jun 2021) and I think it's reasonable to say that likes should be roughly proportional to the number of people who interacted with the content (live or VOD). While it's possible that fewer people are sticking around for extending periods of time because the world's less pandemic-y, I'm still inclined to blame Susan for a sizable chunk of that gap.

At least today, I swear the view counter was updating every 3-5 seconds, and seemed to have a strangely consistent pattern where the CCV would jump by 500-800, then gradually lose that viewer spike before eventually doing another 500-800 ish spike roughly a minute or two later. I have no idea if the actual changes in viewership matched the peaks or the floors of these cycles, but it definitely felt like less of a CCV tracker and more of an on/off cycle.

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>>6761046
I noticed that trend in the live counter too and it seems like it's filtering out live views.
Check out the live view graph for this Ame stream.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/gGbXkos5E3o
I think that those plateaus are live views being purged when there is an update to the counter.
They only started to appear in graphs in December and they are much more apparent for some streams than others.

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>>6755813
Last wave was 5 girls, it even out

[Anonymous No.]

16k for karaoke is low, suisei can get double/triple than this