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>She was not taken for lazulight’s last trip together
>Elira excluded her from her last song with Pomu
>Barely invited to big group events
>Defends coworkers on x, but is never thanked
>No one encourages her whenever she is harassed on X

Why is she treated so horrible despite being first wave?

>> No.67005581

>>67005474
My only beef with her was coombaiting and then backing off because her groomercord told her to despite the fact that she would be successful at it. Fuck her for that April Fools.

>> No.67005635

>>67005581
Wasn't she the one that shit talked Zaion the most?

>> No.67005671

>>67005474
I can't stand feesh personally, but it would still be pretty sad if she gets left behind as a stagnant mid-3view while all her friends fuck off to other companies.

>> No.67005679
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67005679

>STOP GASLIGHTING ME PARASOCIAL FUCKS

>> No.67005703

>>67005474
Who the fuck calls it X

>> No.67005735

>>67005474
>She was not taken for lazulight’s last trip together
Wasn't that because she couldn't afford it?

>> No.67005737

Because she's an absolute dogshit person that used Pomu as an excuse to collab with a homo and forced her to pay for all the shit she bought after her credit card maxed out.

>> No.67005789

>>67005735
>Trip with Pomu and Elira before she leaves? Sleep
>A NEW CHARACTER CAME OUT IN THIS SHIT GACHA GAME ONLY I PLAY?! YABBA DABBA DOO!

>> No.67005991

I’m not gonna act like i’m really a feesh fan, but I get the impression that this thread doesn’t know much about her either. Are there any Nijifags that can actually answer this?

>> No.67006249

>>67005474
>Defends coworkers on x

>> No.67006308
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67006308

>>67005474
she chose her discord groomers over her actual friends and fans, it's all her fault

>> No.67006336

>>67005991
There was a bumplimit Finana catalog thread a week or two ago that covers all the basics.

>> No.67006474

>Finana discord cancelled their b-day billboard project because she told them they're unoriginal and copying hololive
https://files.catbox.moe/p211o3.jpg

>male crashing Pomu+Finana yuribait off-collabs as a "surprise"
https://files.catbox.moe/9zbe28.png

>Finana openly admitting to lying about it and selling it as a "girls night" despite the male being planned all-along
https://files.catbox.moe/95urxj.jpg

>comment sections getting closed to hide complaints
https://files.catbox.moe/7qnonr.png

>Finana has a menhera meltdown on twitter about how nobody draws her in group fanart and cancels streams because of it
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1516160827069456386

>Finana jumps in during the drama with her infamous "L + Ratio you parasocial fucks" tweet (somehow this doesn't stop her from doing valentines dates and sell wedding ring merch though)

https://files.catbox.moe/q36ffe.jpg

>Finana menheraposts on twitter about "trap" being a slur and bans the word, tells viewers to "educate themselves", then promptly backpedals unbans it and apologizes after backlash
https://files.catbox.moe/3079fs.png
>>/vt/thread/27228440

>Finana gets caught joining a fan discord server with her official account where she constantly joins vc and plays games with its members, gets bonked by management and is forced to leave it only for her to create an alt account and join again behind management's back, causing her biggest paypigs to leave her over the preferential treatment to the members of the server
https://rentry.org/fmcox
https://twitter.com/ContainmentB239/status/1547730451938168836
https://web.archive.org/web/20220714153830/https://pastebin.com/f94aCCuS

>Finana's aforemention discord groomer circle leaks her Nijisanji audition tape
https://twitter.com/ContainmentB239/status/1547736242330079233
https://files.catbox.moe/z1u6id.mp4

>> No.67006897

>>67005474
That's on her to defend the shitty people

>> No.67007103

>>67005474
should have educated herself

>> No.67007256

>>67006474
Finana's entire existence proves that NijiEN was never good, even before Ethyria and the cliques came in.

>> No.67007288

>>67006474
/thread

>> No.67007352

>>67005474
Its mostly poos and chuds (basically the same thing) who hate her, because she wont show boobs and vagane.

>> No.67007512

>>67005474
isn't this the stupid bitch that made a big deal about trap being a slur

>> No.67007539

>>67005474
Her genmate didn’t want to be hit with the L + Ratio Parasocial so they distance themself from her

>> No.67007571

>>67007256
I wouldn't go that far. Finana is just a special brand of stupid, and being part of the initial wave of the branch worked a lot against her. She is so impressionable that if she had a proper senpai or something, she would have turned out much better.

>> No.67007721

>>67007571
Nijisanji is a billion dollar company where were the wranglers

>> No.67007762

Finana from the beginning was propped up by chinese clippers. When those clippers abandoned her she fell like a stone.
By the way there are certain clippers who will ONLY promote the chinese girls in NijiEN while ignoring all the other girls

>> No.67007774

>starts off as a big coom bait streamer
>even has mods saying really cringe shit in her chat, with two of them fighting in caps during her first outfit reveal
>turns on her coomer fans because X reason (probably her discord bf getting butthurt)
>becomes a low 3 view
Basically the same reason people don't invite Aia to be a part of things. If feesh was as popular as the others then she would be included but including her is a debuff so they don't.

>> No.67007781

>>67007721
They're on the yacht serving the drinks and food.

>> No.67007908

>>67007721
You see Nijisanji attempts to save money by spreading the managers extremely thin, so there's 10-12 talents per manager. This means the talents are, for the most part, just managing themselves. All the assets are made by them, all the rules are made by them, they even have their own private discord away from the official discord where they talk about things. Management is basically just some people off in the distance they ask for permissions, and rarely ever get them.

Finana is really really dumb. REALLY dumb.
When it was just Lazulight, she was able to be managed by Pomu and Elira and kept in line. But when more waves were added, the other girls went their separate directions and there was nobody to oversee Finana anymore. The result was predictable.

>> No.67007912

>>67006308
Not just any groomers, troon groomers. And not over just any fans, over her whales and ride or die fans. Feesh deserves everything coming to her.

>> No.67007943

>>67005474
She's graduating next

>> No.67008042

>>67007908
It already barely works with the Japs as evidenced by the goldfish why did they think this would work with westerners?
NijiEN really is such a massive fumble.

>> No.67008067

>>67007908
It's fucking wild how in the past year alone we've been told how ridiculously either spread too thin, or just plain incompetent the EN managers are. I'm still seething over how Pomu's manager came back to her in whatever fucking dead hours of the night it was and told her she had to redo an entire fucking scene for her MV when she graduates in just 2 fucking days. Like what could be in the scene that was really a big no no? Something permissions based? Permissions you can't be bothered to obtain?

>> No.67008143

>>67008042
>the goldfish
QRD?

>> No.67008158

>>67007943
No way. She needs the income to support her gacha addiction. If she went indie she would find out real fast that she would either have to deliver full on nsfw or suffer lower 3view status. No mid-level corpo would take her at this point anyway. She would have to get nepo hired hard for that to happen.

>> No.67008292

>No one encourages her whenever she is harassed on X
>X
What does Elons cum taste like anon?

>> No.67008336

>>67008292
Shut the fuck up and go chat with your Skype pals, boomer.

>> No.67008438

>>67005474
Because of the valoguard incident management and some of the livers don't trust her with anything. She's also very socially awkward and reserved, so she has trouble making friends. She spends all of hey money on gacha shit, so she didn't have enough money to go to the antartica trip

>> No.67008494

>>67008336
How about you go back to tiktok and pay your faunam tax to the rizzler, alpha fag.

>> No.67008538

>>67008336
kek this is just the saddest shit, go eat some tide pods retard

>> No.67008621

>>67008143
Old main branch drama involving a rising star and an established liver that ended with the rising star graduating and the established liver going out of commission and a massive shitstorm for everyone involved

>> No.67008626

>>67006474
>>Finana discord cancelled their b-day billboard project because she told them they're unoriginal and copying hololive
HOLY BASED

>> No.67008680

>>67005474
She is just a lazy bitch that doesn't participate

>> No.67008759

>>67005474
This chick has done everything within her power to kill her channel and growth. New vtubers should study her to see how not to carry themselves.

>> No.67009005

>>67006474
Don't forget the april fools 'joke' where she said she'd do an ASMR stream, opened super chats. Then deleted the stream and posted herself giving middle fingers to her fans.

>> No.67009035

>>67006474
Now imagine that's just a fraction of things she has done to piss people off in some way, although some the most prominent moments

>> No.67009061

>>67009005
KWAB

>> No.67009228

>>67009005
I still don't understand how a manager didn't tan her hide over that.
>Inb4 there isn't one

>> No.67009400

>>67007908
How come managers seem to watch Selen 24/7 then if they have so much to do?

>> No.67009463

>>67009400
Selen's on their shitlist, just like Zaion was. They need to write down every little infraction to prepare for her termination

>> No.67009495

>>67009400
Selen is the one who does shit that require perms, maybe they’re annoyed that Selen keeps bothering them with extra work instead of just being an apex bot.

>> No.67009535

>>67006474
>extremely retarded but means well
I am now interested in your fish.

>> No.67009573

>>67009463
Zaion was in NIJI for like 3 weeks.
did she even make it to the first pay period?

>> No.67009588

>>67009228
I mean Selen keeps getting bitch slapped by them, so they have to be real.

>> No.67009712

>>67009535
>Means well
HAHAHA

>> No.67009750

>>67009588
Oh I know they got Selen on speed dial and are keeping her under a magnifying glass, but Finana seems more neglected than others. You just don't hear Finana bitch about it because she doesn't try to do anything.

>> No.67009902

>>67009750
I mean considering the things Finana says and does it's really weird that they focus on Selen doing almost doing nothing all of the time. Would help if they could focus on people who actually need a tard wrangler.

>> No.67009919

>>67006308
So a schizo anon has a rrat? Throw it on the pile

>> No.67009936

>>67005635
other than Kotoka yes

>> No.67009941

>>67009061
>A weak, blubbery mass, notably: of human or animal tissue, such as quivering flesh, or a brain lobe; of aquatic plants.
???

>> No.67009955

>>67009535
extremely retarded, sure, but what part of that made you think she means well? there's no way half of the things on that list could ever happen without malicious intent

>> No.67010032

>>67009941
Go back to whatever retarded discord you came from and lurk 1000 years.

>> No.67010057

>>67009573
No, and remember this is Niji so she had to pay for her own debut. Basically sank thousands of dollars for nothing in return and and reputation smeared while targeted for harassment by NijiEN fans. Niji delenda est.

>> No.67010097

>>67010032
>nooo you can't just ignore our EPIC latest /pol9k/ slang!! don't you even read bvtm?

>> No.67010108

>>67009902
That sounds like work. It's much easier to just ignore permissions requests and then shut down things because the permissions are not there.

>> No.67010115

>>67005474
hate this dumb cunt. first 2 waves would have been perfection incarnate if this cunt wasn't in it

>> No.67010193

>>67009005
That's when I unsubbed. To be honest, I don't even mind having no ASMR, since you kind of expect to be bamboozled on April Fools. The real slap in the face was that there was no stream at all. Just wasting people's time for 6 hours and then pulling that shit.

>> No.67010199

>>67010032
Don't care what you redditors are trying to force now.

>> No.67010207

>>67009573
When you get hired to be a vtuber you dont start the next day. She problably got into a fight with management or something before she debuted.

>> No.67010254

>>67005635
Arguable. Finana accused Zaion of "gaslighting" her when, at worst, Zaion just lied to her. Which I don't think is a word chosen out of malice, so much as Finana's an airhead that thinks gaslighting and lying are the same thing. That said, the fact that she felt like she had to say that after Zaion had already been fired (and couldn't defend herself) was probably done out of malice and/or a desire to curry pity.

>> No.67010392

>>67010108
Damn I want to be a manager now there if I can just do no job and whenever anyone ask me to do my job I just tell no and to fuck off or I will get them in shit.

>> No.67010442

I have a fetish for women suffering the consequences of their actions.

>> No.67010455

Finana streams Honkai and other gacha noone plays about to her discord of 300 trans lesbians and male feminist redditors, every other kind of fan she had was at one point or another told to fuck off so they did.
Not that they had a reason to stay since after she stopped coombaiting there's just nothing left, she's not entertaining or funny.

>> No.67010456

>>67010097
>goes somewhere he knows nothing about
>wtf are you guys saying and doing? You need to change everything NOW so I can join in and be like you.
Do you go to work and complain that your managers or bosses get paid more than you and demabd they get paid less so you don't feel left out? Maybe you'll understand this: kys

>> No.67010514

>>67010456
Sorry, you're only welcome here if you came from /jp/. You can go back to chatting about vtubers on /v/.

>> No.67010646

>>67010199
>reddit
Honestly I dont know what a kwab is either. I just dont like when people go "??? What does this mean? Can someone explain?" When they have a fucking infinite dictionary right fucking in front of them.

>> No.67010664

>>67005474
You have to look at it from both perspectives see >>67006308

>> No.67010669

>>67007908
>>67008067
Early on in the branch's life, it seemed like their management was much more appropriately-sized (probably because it was 1-3 managers for 3-6 talents) and had a good relationship with each other; one of the best examples being the Pomu/beatMARIO prank, which was apparently organized by their manager. However, as EN ACCELERATED, the management clearly did not, and it seemed to go from a ratio of 1:3 (manager:talent) to 1:6 or more (if the Zaion doc is anything to go by) and the efficiency and morale died.

>> No.67010749

>>67010646
kek what a bitch

>> No.67010785

>>67009228
>>67009588
>>67009750
>>67009902
I'd be surprised if management even remembers Finana exists.

>> No.67010901

>>67010749
KWAB

>> No.67010924

>>67009573
No because she's was still paying people off from debut when she re-debuted as Sayu. That's why she has done so many subathons, she was going to pay them back with her paychecks in Niji but she only worked for less than a month.

>> No.67010971

>>67010749
Holy shit! Thats what means!

>> No.67010982

>>67010785
I'd agree if she were part of any of gen besides lazulight.

>> No.67011081

>>67006474
holy
well at least she'll be set even after graduation

>> No.67011117

>>67005635
>Wasn't she the one that shit talked Zaion the most?
*Wasn't she the one that got lied to by Zaion the most?
Fixed it for you.

>> No.67011161

>>67010442
What would be the name for a non-physical ryona?

>> No.67011187

>>67006474
>Nijisanji audition tape
Somehow she seems better. Is it because she wasn't a retarded fish but just hitting the "girls are cutest when they're slightly retarded" aspect?

>> No.67011288

>>67008067
>Like what could be in the scene that was really a big no no?
If the things people have claimed about selen's mv issues are true it's probably the MV featuring talents that have already graduated.
Whether that means a nina shot or a selen shot was removed is anybodies guess until it goes live but odds are strong it's one of those two and her manager not being AS lazy and retarded as selen's catching it before it goes live.

>> No.67011294

>>67006474
I stopped caring about her when she made Pomu pay out the ass for her visit because she spent all her money on a Honkai convention

>> No.67011481

>>67010971
>>67010901
Both me btw

>> No.67011486

>>67010392
Unironically being a manager at Niji is probably the best. You don't have to do any actual work, you can tell people no if you feel like it, and you get at least half of the revenue with basically zero work required. Even better, you can do actually evil shit and your livers have to publicly defend you. You're basically at the top of the MLM scheme

>> No.67011579

>>67011486
Your liver has to do more than defend you, it keeps you alive dummy. You cant process certain food without a liver.

>> No.67011644

>>67011288
I still don't buy the idea that a graduated talent needs to explicitly give permission for a model they don't own to appear in a work by a current member. There's no fucking way the contract within nijii is that generous. It sounds more like just breaking selen and pomu's balls to help usher them out.

>> No.67011727

>>67007912
You weren't kidding
>>67007352

>> No.67011847
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Why is this recommended to me? I've never heard of this person before.

>> No.67011862

>>67009400
Managers are clip watchers. Seriously, Enna told her fans to stop clipping her so she'd stop getting in trouble with management.

>> No.67011875

>>67011579
>having to rely on Finana chewing your food for you
What a horrid existence for the managers

>> No.67011925

>>67011288
>>67011644
I recommend you to open reimu most current stream and see a certain fox in the background of her opening. Its clear you guys dont really watch nijien lol
this shit of graduated members dont make sense, and nina was put in there in november and even fucking zaion still is on kotoka background

>> No.67011924

>>67011847
tabs

>> No.67012018

>>67005474
I mean Mel was gen 1 and look how everyone here treated her 5 seconds after she left.

>> No.67012045

>>67011486
Also if the liver escalates an issue you fail or refuse to resolve higher up the management chain, it's the liver that gets in trouble.

>> No.67012082

>>67005635
>>67005679
>gaslighting
>first thing I see from her is a fart bubble video

>> No.67012171

>>67011486
>>67012045
everybody in nijien likes their manager and many are friends with them. A manager dont make any choices, they deliver the message of upper management to you and other than that they support you.

>> No.67012182

>>67007352
Turns out the only way for her to be entertaining was the stories of what she shoved up her cooch since she can't hold an audience otherwise.

>> No.67012240

>>67012171
Hi Millie

>> No.67012302

>>67009535
>>extremely retarded but means well
This is literally Bae.

>> No.67012316

>>67010097
>/pol9k/ slang
My brother in Christ, I spend like ten hours a day /here/ telling the pol9k retards to fuck off, but this isn't an example.

>> No.67012328

>>67012240
Anon anyone who watches nijien knows this reality. Even pomu who is quitting said shes going to miss her most recent manager who went to the mgs concert with her and paid for her, just like noor who was her first manager. they dont dislike their manager, what they complain about whenever they do, is about the upper management of the branch who are the ones who make the decisions and have the managers give the bad and good news to the livers

>> No.67012391

>>67010749
Why would (You) be so mean, anon? They just wanted to know what KWAB means, this kind of mockery isn't necessary.

>> No.67012466

>>67012171
If they effectively don't do anything then why are they still employed lmao, it makes more financial sense to fire them than to nickel and dime the livers (2%)

>> No.67012560

>>67012466
anon they do make things, what im saying is that managers dont make the final decisions. They aways support the members, but they have people above them and they take orders.

>> No.67012639

>>67008067
How much do managers actually need to do, anyway? Like how hard can it be to send emails to game companies and ask for perms?

>> No.67012784

>>67012639
very tiresome

>> No.67012852

>>67012639
This line of thinking is going to one day lead Riku to replace the managers with chatgpt

>> No.67012889

>management told kiara the wrong date so she wouldn't call in
They tried at least

>> No.67012918

>>67012639
To do it well? A lot. The idea is that you're constantly working with your talent to talk about what they plan to stream, projects they want to work on, merch deals, etc. Your job as a manager is to also recognize what your talent should focus on so that they can grow and improve themselves at their craft. At the same time, you are meant to keep them from doing something stupid, and if they do, you appropriately explain why it was stupid and help them to not do it again. A legit vtuber manager can do a lot of good, but it requires work. You could also be responsible for keeping up to date with current trends and make suggestions to your talent based on what is hot in the algorithm. Also yes, the busy work side of it is doing those emails and getting perms.

>> No.67012997

>>67012889
What do you mean they gave her the wrong date? There's only 3 fucking dates left of Pomu streams at this point.

>> No.67013001

So once again it's a situation of direct supervisor being pretty cool but upper management being a bunch of utter drooling retards in suits?

>> No.67013086

>>67013001
not exactly in suits as that would be executives but yes thats the gist, middle management is cool, upper management sucks

>> No.67013099

>>67008158

Most corporate Vtubers lose 80-90% viewers when they go indie. Half the time I check Finana she getting 200-500 viewers as it is. Playboard has her averaging under https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCu-J8uIXuLZh16gG-cT1naw

I wouldn't be surprised if she goes back to a 2-view when she's indie.

>> No.67013133

>>67013001
No cause they don't do any of things listed here >>67012918 Stop trying to suck management dick when they don't do their job.

>> No.67013253

>>67013099
Under 700 average.

>> No.67013314

>>67013133
and yet pretty much all of the nijien vtubers love their direct managers and some are friends. even pomu who gets fucked loved all of her managers and said shes going to miss them, because she understand they arent the problem, its the ones above them blocking her things.

>> No.67013457

>>67013314
You keep saying this like it's a fact for some reason, she only ahs really ever said it now that she's leavening and kinda forced to say it or look bad. They have never done their jobs fucking ever and why are you trying to suck them off for not doing their fucking job?

>> No.67013488

>>67013314
>Oh yes, I'm going to say on a recording that I dislike my manager and list all the things they didn't do well for me
Also, there's a very harsh distinction between liking your manager as a person, and them doing good by you as a manager. I've had quite a few managers that I liked as people, but they were dogshit at their job.
In Pomu's case, she is too good for this world. Yes there is an upper layer above her manager that isn't helping to greenlight things, but a good manager can find compromises or ways around that red tape that still fulfill some of their talent's needs.

>> No.67013538

>>67013488
Selen have done exactly that, so did millie, enna and reimu in 2022

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67013571

>>67013314
>Keeps sucking off management for not working
I wonder who could be behind this post

>> No.67013611

>>67005474
Didn't read. I hate hypocrite whores.

>> No.67013639

>>67013538
>Selen have done exactly that,
She has said multiple times she had no help in doing so and management actually pushed back on everything she did. Yes, very good managers bro.

>> No.67013653

>>67013099
She could always do membership dicksucking asmr if she needs the dough.
I'd gladly member her if she does that

>> No.67013679

>>67005789
Addiction clouds all reasonable thoughts anon. Its very sad to see

>> No.67013787

>>67013538
>Selen
And where is she now? Thank god the hitman only nicked her shoulder.
Only thing I'll say on the three stooges is that their managers probably don't even watch all their streams, and will likely not even take their insults seriously.

>> No.67013845

>>67013639
No you absolute retard, im saying she criticized her managers on stream before, just like millie, enna and reimu in 2022, before they had a change in manager which they love now.

>> No.67013887

>>67013845
>which they love now.
>Selen
Now I know you don't watch her

>> No.67013948

>>67013845
>which they love now.
Did you say this well saying Selen?

>> No.67014097

>>67013887
>>67013948
i meant for millie, enna and reimu, not selen. Selen have said that her relation with her managers is purely business wise unlike others who talk with their managers all the time regardless if they something or not.

>> No.67014356

Honestly, regardless how I feel about Finana, it's kind of based we have actual niji employees in this thread defending the management.

>> No.67014444

>>67014356
It's really cool of them to be here and talk to us

>> No.67014446

>>67014356
yeah because you cant as a viewer give the things you see and know from observation, you are a niji employee or riku bootlicker if you just dont go into rage and say black company.

>> No.67014501

>>67014356
The shoe fits. The employees are just as incompetent as the management with these kind of defenses.

>> No.67014530

>>67014356
>employees
You give them too much credit

>> No.67014693

QRD on valogard drama? I cant find anything on google and thats something I must have missed.

>> No.67014771

>>67014356
Man If I were paid to shitpost defense here, I'd do that for an hour then spend twice that coming up with and peddling the furthest reaching rrats that have the tiniest sense of possibility all because of intertwined inner knowledge.

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>>67014693
Won't spoonfeed, start digging here
https://twitter.com/valoguard/status/1547789675200270337/

>> No.67015168

>>67014356
I guess if you consider $0.01 an hour pajeet trollcenters in Mumbai Niji employees

>> No.67015199

>>67007762
This. The Enna and Petra only clippers are probably CCP party me`mbers.

>> No.67015589

>>67014356
They do spend more time spamming up threads like this than actually doing their job.

>> No.67015728

>>67013099
>When they go indie
We both know finana would just go back to being a twittertuber and not actually doing videos.

>> No.67015848

>>67005581
I will never forgive her for that pointless April fools bait and switch. It was just so weird and spiteful to her own fans.

>> No.67015878

Damn anon, you must be ripped with all the reps you've done. I kneel.

>> No.67015925

>>67013099
You have a brief moment when you redebut where you will have hype and lightning in a bottle.
Henya vs Sayu.
Sayu wasted her 15 minutes of fame coming back and the immediately going to Japan and then coming back playing Genshin in a 60 day subathon and now is a mid 3view twitch streamer.

>> No.67015949

>>67015199
The Chinese fans hate Petra's guts as much as they hated Nina.

>> No.67015984

>>67005474
PARASOCIAL FUCK BUY MY WEDDING RING

>> No.67015993

>>67015925
I just don't watch Sayu because I don't watch twitch.

>> No.67016062

>>67012639
Being a manager is like babysitting. In the vtuber scene it's like babysitting autistic children.

>> No.67016324

>>67007774
You can see the change between her first year and second. She had a genuine attempted GFE valentine video.
Then some point by the first anniversary after getting addicted to valorant shit she started to straight up just insult her 'old' fans and want a completely new audience that her 'new' fans liked and utterly changed her content around this new minority and basically all her clippers, whales and old fans ditched her and now she gets excluded from everything by fans because she honestly told them to fuck off.

>>67007762
When she told her clippers and whales they are parasocial losers she didn't want anything to do with, what else did she expect to happen? They'd stick around?

>> No.67016398

>>67015949
Really? Why?

>> No.67016422

>>67005581
She got NO focus in Pomu's original song mv but Elira did. Damn.

>> No.67016423

>>67012997
You expect kiara to keep track of things like that when shes busy fucking nerissa on her goon island?

>> No.67016426

>>67016062
Hey, you can lucky sometimes and get one that isn't as autistic or dumb. I wonder if it's a roll of the dice who you get cause looking at Hololive would be a funny comparison since I think they get personal ones or ones that is only shared with with people at this point? I could be wrong sorry there, but imagine a new gen comes out and one person get's Bijou and you get Shiori

>> No.67016463

>>67016398
PL stuff like being pro-hong kong

>> No.67016492

>>67013133
Selen...

>> No.67016539

>>67006474
lmao you oshi this retard?

>> No.67016670
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The early /nijien/, me included, had a remarkably good disposition towards Finana despite her being widely considered the runt of her wave after many incidents including the brapfish pre-debut tweet, her failed debut stream, fishdad shutting down her internet after exactly 2 hours, being an absolute brat in collabs esp. during that awful APEX collab where pomu went all ragey wagey or during phasmophobia, etc etc.

The goodwill dissipated with time once people no longer had the UNITY excuse to latch onto (thanks riku's shotgun approach for that).
Honestly? I think Finana HAD something to work with at the very start - she could have a played an excellent bratty little sister character, but it seems that once the idea reached her ears she set out to do anything but that.

Her contrarian nature and gacha addiction finally made me lose the little interest I had left once more interesting organs started debutting and she seemingly kept on her path of pissing off as many people as possible for 0 gain while spending thousands of dollars and hours on shitty gacha.

>> No.67016729

What is the fart tweet?

>> No.67016763

>>67016729
One of her earliest predebut tweets was a video of her farting in a kiddie pool

>> No.67016779

About the Zaion gaslighting thing... I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like this
>Hey Finana this thing about Genshin and management sucks right
>Yeah, sure
>Yeah, you think it's unfair too right
>Yeah, totally...
>ok hold for a moment then I'm inviting my manager to this call so we can tell him together that they suck and we want some real changes
>Wait
>Hi mane-san, remember when I told you I wasn't the only one with complains? Go Finana, say something
I like Zaion, but I can understand if Finana was angry with her. Finana rating Zaion out was a bitch move tho

>> No.67016803

>>67016763
no way

>> No.67016861

>>67016803
https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1392645070713622528

>> No.67016934

>>67016861
I will now member
Any chuuba into braps is a friend of mine

>> No.67017201

>>67016934
>allowing fake braps
ngmi

>> No.67017243

>>67017201
It shows she is fine with braps and fart humor

>> No.67017356

>>67012852
considering at the sad state of nijien these days that might be an improvement

>> No.67017471

>>67005474
finana is not mature and does not have good interpersonal skills. i remember that one time she overslept the minecraft collab for the server that only she had access to and everyone was waiting for hours and then she didn't even apologize.
it's really not her fault if you know a bit about how she grew up but at the end of the day it has damaged her relationships with the her coworkers.

>> No.67017589

>>67017471
>and then she didn't even apologize.
I think she got passive aggressive about it too. Same as that time when she overslept the YGO collab and Millie filled in at the last second.

>> No.67018332

>>67016670
IT wasn't even the gacha addiction, she was still getting 1k+ when doing genshin/honkai.
It's after that when she started just insulting her fans and just utterly changing her content from comfy casual game streams to playing valorant.

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Shes amazing at coom content and people constantly go back to her "practice" ASMR to jerk off to her. She unironically made blowjob sounds. Hell just go to the comments and sort newest comments.

>> No.67018558

>>67018500
So that's her best performing stream content? Must kill her inside.

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>>67018500
Her response?

>> No.67018710

Yeah. Its the ONLY redeeming quality of hers. She knows what her fans want.

>> No.67018879

>>67018500
Most vtubers top 8 vods will be ASMR if they do ASMR

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>>67018879
those are the only ASMR videos she has. Here are the next most popular live vods

>> No.67019168

>>67006308
Anyone knows what ever happened to this anon? Heard he was a gachi that regularly posted here

>> No.67019205

>>67010193
>That's when I unsubbed
Same. I wasnt expecting actual series ASMR either, but I planned by day around it because I expected she was going to at least try and do something entertaining

>> No.67019259

>>67005474
I’ve never really hated her, she’s always been kind of stupid, but that isn’t really her fault.

>> No.67019374

>>67011117
Why do you even try anymore Nijidrone?
It’s over, Nijisanji is destroyed.

>> No.67019492

>>67016670
i like the bladder

>> No.67019636

>>67005581
>Fuck her for that April Fools.
as someone who didn't care about it, that shit was the funniest shit ever, but I can understand people not liking it kek.

>> No.67019821

>>67005474
>parasocial fucks
She's as vapid as the vacuum between her ears.
Basic as fuck.
An absolute disappointment of a human specimen
The quintessential npc
The first vtuber grifter who "made it"
I propose a different question:
Why does she even has fans?

>> No.67019896

>>67012302
Not even retarded, just stuck in an isolated cave for most of her life.

>> No.67019933

>>67019374
nijisanji would be destroyed if their major market was en

>> No.67019953

>>67012328
So true sister

>> No.67020437

>>67016763
Pls. I need the vidoe or sound file.

>> No.67020495

>>67016426
I'm pretty sure older managers get moved to newer talents. Henma handled Ame and Mumei, and now he handles Shiori

>> No.67020619

>>67007256
Finana is stupid and easily influenced, basically a child. Ethyria, Luxiem and Noctyx were all bad influence on her.
She wanted to be part of the "Cool Gang", so she did the things she did. This is why Finana was completely harmless and not bad at all when it was only Lazulight and Obsydia.

>> No.67020712

>>67020437
>>67016861

>> No.67020794
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>>67009535
>means well

>> No.67020839

>>67016861
>its the stupid meme sound effect
This should have been a sign that she was dogshit. Imagine making brap content and FAKING it.

>> No.67020993

>>67019168
People believe it was Chris
He was a regular in the nijien threads and constantly supported Finana, but never held back calling her bad behavior and even telling her himself whenever she made a mistake
He even worked with a company to create a high quality Daki for Finana on her second birthday, dude was never creepy and treated her more as a little sister

Nowadays he is just making cunny porn

>> No.67021380

>>67005703
cucks, trannies and women do that

>> No.67021466

>>67005474
no hate, she is just stupid, I feel a little bit sorry for her even

>> No.67021700

>>67006474
>groomer cord full of alphabet people
Damn, I find it amazing that they managed to pull such a big feesh. Usually only lonely 2views gets brought to the butchery like this.
I do wonder if someone else from Nijisanji introduced her to this group.

>> No.67021757

Just watching streams makes you realize how absurd yet ultimately meaningless threads like these are.
I pray that you all are able to find and follow the light someday. There is always a chance for redemption for you.

>> No.67021790

>>67021700
They infiltrated her fanbase, they were welcomed with open arms and you know what happened?
They used everyone to get close to Finana by playing Valorant and once they got in they started insulting and making fun of her regulars

Is it any surprise why she has little to no support?

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>>67013099

>> No.67021889

>>67012639
Good ground floor managers are supposed to keep their thumb on the pulse of their team and figure out what they need to succeed. They also should have a handle on what resources the company already has available, then contact people and follow up. So their entire job is to 1. Talk to people 2. coordinate and 3. protect their workers. Good low-level management can make or break companies, because it enables the actual workers to be much more productive and produce better work. Or completely destroys all productivity and quality of work.

Good managers are more important than good workers, because a good manager should be creating good workers.

>> No.67022167

>>67021790
That's what amazed me. Usually, being a 4view makes you immune to these kinds of preschool tactics, but Finana is a special kind of dumb.

>> No.67022417

>>67020993
Good ending

>> No.67022634

will she ever go back to doing coom asmr?

>> No.67022651

>>67006474
The billboard thing was a lie.
The rest are true to a certain extent but the billboard thing actually was a case of nobody being able to afford it. Holofans actually chimed in that it was a community effort that required months of planning and people taking donations from around the world in order to get the birthday billboard in times square.
It's been debunked a variety of different times I could probably find the whole screenshot if I was dedicated enough

>> No.67023303

>>67005737
>Nigga STILL in denial despite the fact Pomu is the one that knows Uki.
She's leaving, it's ok to finally accept she likes and hangs with men.

>> No.67023410

>>67021700
Gatekeep harder became a thing for a reason. Some people serve as an example of what not to do

>> No.67023730

>>67022634
See >>67018671

>> No.67026193

>>67005474
I hate her for being gaslighted by Zaion

>> No.67027548

>>67006474
The discord thing was the final nail in the coffin. This bitch is almost a literally who now.

>> No.67027594

>>67022651
Getting a billboard isn't that expensive. Did they really have that hard of a time? Even phase girls got billboards. Was it in an expensive location or something?

>> No.67027682

>>67022651
>billboard in times square
>>67027594
Nvm apparently I need to learn how to read.

>> No.67027993

>>67005581
Yeah that did suck her nsfw asmr was great and she instead spits on peoples faces like that the potential of more nsfw asmr was the only thing that would have made me resub to her ain't happening now.

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Because her and millie ($200/month) are the only ones in niji EN, dont know about JP, that have insane membership tiers. they are both cancer.

>> No.67029668

>>67027682
no you don't

>> No.67031483

>>67005474
If you ever converse with this discord groom bait you risk being accused of gaslighting later. Better avoid the little shit.

>> No.67032354

>>67005474
All things considered, she sounds like she's legitimately stupid and the things she does do her no favors

>> No.67032432

>>67032354
>she's legitimately stupid
That's hot.

>> No.67032519

>>67005474
>ruins everything she touches
>elira and pomu can no longer deal with her
Womp womp

>> No.67033053

>>67021466
Same, really. I'd even go so far as to say I hope Finana figures herself out and matures, though I don't think that's likely to happen while she's both being held in social captivity by her groomers and not getting the pushes she needs from her parents (I assume; I don't know much about her relationship with them).

>> No.67033267

>>67005474
>>67005679

>> No.67033514

>>67005991
actual niji fan nobody will listen to but:
shes more on the introverted side and clams up in collabs. elipomu are very tight but it inevitably makes her the 3rd wheel, and she's not good with introducing herself to new waves either. shes more of the time to stay in her comfort zone with her fanbase than venture out

>> No.67033532

>>67011161
>The word ryona (リョナ, ryona, a portmanteau of ryōki ("seeking the bizarre") and onanī ("masturbation")) is a type of sexual fetish in hentai where in a protagonist, usually female, is subject to physical or psychological abuse from an offender who is usually male.
It's the same word, literally just a google search away

>> No.67037073

>>67033514
While true, she made it worse by doing the things she did. Just being the introvert and third wheel doesn't harm her or her image. It's like a neutral state. New people might not join but people also won't leave. She went out of her way to make herself as unpleasant as possible to the point people who wanted to stick with her dropped her.
The biggest eye opener should be the trip pomu had with elira. Even Pomu's mv had a focus on elira and not finana

>> No.67038782

>>67019896
Honestly yeah. Bae may be a zoomer rat, but the more important thing is that we was raised under a rock

>> No.67038881

>>67038782
*She

>> No.67038910

>>67033514
>elipomu
That won't be an issue for long.

>> No.67039839

>>67037073
Wiwa's words about the gut feeling that she'd regret forever if she missed the antartica trip are going to sting feesh so fucking much

>> No.67042332

>>67033514
I stopped watching Niji a bit after Ethyria debuted because i couldn't stomach Enna, Reimu and Millie attitudes and things soon became worse with male debuts but... i definitely got precisely that impression before. Finana would talk a lot less than others, it would be Pomu and ELira who carried the conversations while FInana would add something yabai every few minutes that other two would be reacting to. I don't know how much of that was awkwardness but I think it was a nice chemistry between the three. Two girls leading the conversation and third one adding spice. They were a cool trio. I don't remember any interactions between Finana and Rosemi/Petra/Selen in my limited watchtime, even though both Elira and Pomu talked with them a lot.

>> No.67045120

>>67017471
>it's really not her fault if you know a bit about how she grew up
How is this an excuse? She's just inconsiderate and selfish.

>> No.67045165

>>67045120
she was raised by feral gachas

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>>67005474

>> No.67049581

>>67005679
I love this image

>> No.67049595

>>67047182
Literally all of those tranny fags dropped her two weeks after the whole thing lmao

>> No.67049849

>>67033514
I guess the Gaslit drama with Zaion didn't help her either

>> No.67050108

>>67005474
She's just a terrible and shitty human.

>> No.67050176

>>67049595
They're not actually fans, they're just a roaming mercenary band who fights in whatever issue related to them and then leaves.
That's how they manage to have such a relatively large effect despite being 0% of the population.

>> No.67050232

>>67050176
>roaming mercenary
Chigau anon, they're locusts

>> No.67051595

>>67015993
She actually streams on youtube sometimes. She streamed the current buff game today to like 300 viewers.

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where's the Hari and Finana collab...

>> No.67051669

>>67051595
It's over 600 just on Twitch currently

>> No.67051878

>>67051669
Guess that's where her bread gets buttered.

>> No.67052209

Her goodbye to Pomu was sweet.

>> No.67052220

>>67007256
It proves it’s not all managements fault. There are dogshit people in the company.

>> No.67052506

>>67052220
But management could guide the livers to a better place, polish enought to be a nice gem. That's what Hololive is doing.
But Niji management never does that.

>> No.67052613

>>67052506
NijiEN has absolutely zero ambition. In fact, it is actively hostile to members with ambition.
Pomu wanted to be an idol like Hololive, she wanted to make NijiEN into a real competitor to HoloEN.
Selen wanted to be the big gaming vtuber with lots of collabs, events, etc.

>> No.67052659

...I don't understand how the groomercord even happened. Why the fuck would Finana thought that it was even remotely ok joining in secret a fan server?
>she is dumb
Yeah, sure, but WHY did she do it? How the hell did they get her attention?

>> No.67052745

>>67005474
How can anybody hate this feesh?

>> No.67052786

>>67005789
Lmao this

>> No.67052942

>>67012918
Hi jenma

>> No.67053024

>>67006474
>It makes me uncomfy when chat says trap
>BTW did I ever mentioned that time I fucked my pussy with my sister's flute and didn't wash?

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>>67019636
It's funny for tourists, not for her actual fans.
Compare and contrast this stream from Pekora -
https://youtu.be/7LGBDndtLRU
Playing on the well known old joke about a fan of hers waiting for her Christmas stream with warm chicken, and the chicken getting cold because she went to the dentist that day and didn't stream.
The waiting room for that was open while she was streaming some other game here - https://youtu.be/hjW8fIFI6Q4
Naturally her fans memed about her not streaming etc. etc. and everyone was in on the joke.
It would've been fine if she closed that waiting room without streaming (her other stream was 2 hours long) but she decided to do her C part on that stream instead.
It's the little things that show that you care more about being there for your fans than a stupid joke.

>> No.67053530

>>67052506
But management take almost 100% of the blame. They deserve it in some cases like Zion, Pomu, Selen, but there are assholes who are also responsible as talents like Finana, Enna, Millie, Koyo and Vox.

>> No.67053533

>>67012918
HoloEN management is /here/

>> No.67053563

she has to kill herself now right

>> No.67053825

>>67006474
>Finana discord cancelled their b-day billboard project because she told them they're unoriginal and copying hololive
Actually based if true

>> No.67054104

>>67033532
>[…] psychological abuse from an offender
I don’t think self inflicted harm counts

>> No.67054159

>>67009535
She is plenty malicious, she's not Enna Bitch but you'd be lying if you don't see the influence of the clique and the discord trannies on her

>> No.67054411

>>67005474
I don't know, why don't you educate yourself you parasocial fuck?

>> No.67054457

>>67005474
PARASOCIAL FUCKS

>> No.67054628

>>67054411
>>67054457
it’s my favorite slipknot song

>> No.67054955

>>67053533
If they are there would be an announcement that HoloEN will abandon homocollabs and take the idol path. Nothing short of a announcement would convince me, except maybe just disbanding holostarsEN

>> No.67056134

>>67009061
what does Kevin have to do with Finana?

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>>67014356
> niji
> ever paying their interns
They do it FOR FREE anon
FOR FREEEEE

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>>67053530
>koyo

>> No.67058021

Is there even any hope for her?

>> No.67058227

>>67056669
You’re drunk, go home

>> No.67058693

This fish makes me remember Hololive's Amelia so much... Is like a powered up version of her.

>> No.67059414

>>67005474
Finana is the greatest example of fumbling her daisenpai status maybe second to Shizurin. A founding 1st generation member utterly reduced to a 3view.

>> No.67060655

>>67005474
She's cute tho

>> No.67061364

>>67059414
Don't shit on my first oshi, asshole.
Let the hag do what she wants.

>> No.67061785

>>67005474
EDUCATE YOURSELF LMAO

>> No.67062034

>>67020495
Well Shiori's case is special because she needs a whole team to make sure the content she does isn't overboard (which is hilarious.) I'm glad Holo gives her freedom to do whatever instead of forcing her toe a strict line.

>> No.67062133

>>67016670
I feel like she's a more crass, primordial budget version of Biboo who plays the gamer bratty little sister much better. But then again Biboo's also much more wholesome and easier to support. Cover hiring team doing work here.

>> No.67062353

>>67061364
Okay, at least she didn't whine about idpol and get groomed by her fans to stay on the low side. She played FFXIV nonstop instead, which is worse.

>> No.67062515

>>67007256
The clique formed from Elira, NijiEn was doomed from the start.

>> No.67064904

So she wasn’t faking being retarded?

>> No.67068093

>>67064904
She was a different kind of retarded.

>> No.67070361

>>67005474
There's probably some drama with her and others behind the curtain.

>> No.67073087

>>67068093
That's hot.

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>>67005474

>> No.67075585

>>67005474

>> No.67077509

>>67062515
Enna took over the clique

>> No.67080638

>>67005474
finana had a hard life....

>> No.67084523

>>67005679
based finana

>> No.67087461

>>67077509
She is just the worst of it, Elira is still the source. Without her there would be no Enna.

>> No.67087664

>>67007762
Zhang bugs ruining everything once again

>> No.67088283

GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED GET GASLIGHTED

>> No.67088755

>>67005581
Lmao, cucked even by virtual waifu

>> No.67088775

>>67054955
Don't get confused, they're /here/ to immunize themselves schizo unicuck tantrums, not to read some imaginary rrat /vt/ has about being relevant and cater to the collective delusion.

>> No.67089429

>>67080638
I'll give her a hard life *unzips dick*

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>>67006474
>causing her biggest paypigs to leave her over the preferential treatment to the members of the server
It's been a long ass time since I've been interested in anything Nijisanji, but I recall the guy who posts here with Flandre pics from Touhou, who was one of her paypigs, dropping her and then a few days later Finana must have caught wind of her paypigs dropping her because she did a fucking Sims stream and I REMEMBER her constantly bringing up the guys name, wanting to name her sim baby she had after him, it was so fucking cringe and pathetic to watch her try to reel him back in by constantly namedropping him while he wasn't even there (or at least if he was there he wasn't writing in the chat or anything)

>> No.67091702

>>67006474
So she's a dumb bitch. Got it.

>> No.67091859

It’s interesting that most anons in this thread don’t even think Finana is malicious, just that she’s just that stupid, it’s like people don’t even get angry at her anymore, they just feel pity

>> No.67096858

>>67090584
i remember that, Finana knew he had a foot fetish so she tried pandering to foot fetish slowly afterwards.

If she really wanted him back she should have just distance herself from the groomercord

>> No.67100000

She should have owned her sexy ASMR ability. She was good at it. Its not really anything to be ashamed of given whats on the internet these days.

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