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https://x.com/k9_kuro/status/1744969001258893650?s=46

Absolutely shameless

>> No.66418324

>>66418202
It's literally their business model the company wouldn't be relevant without it.

>> No.66418337

>>66418202
Poaching is a good thing unless you care more about the corporation than the vtuber.

>> No.66418355

He posted that ten minutes ago, how do you even notice without following him?

>> No.66418420

>>66418202
Based.

>> No.66418442

I ain’t clicking that shit, nigga

>> No.66418445

>>66418202
I thought Matpat was already retired?
I recall he made a video announcing that he already sold off his YT channel, isn't it?

>> No.66418456
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>>66418202
No one tried to open the link KEK

>> No.66418491

>>66418202
That's actually a pretty good joke.

>> No.66418519

>>66418355
Must be his free time there in Indonesia

>> No.66418562

>>66418202
You don't understand what actual employment poaching is.

>> No.66418643

>>66418355
vshojo entire presence on the board hinges on fans of vshojo falseflagging and and non-stop anti posting against vshojo itself.
It's an irrelevant company that noone would talk about except for occasionally pointing out its incestous nepotism and how hypocritical they are in their position, and as their fans know that, they'll keep trying to keep them relevant by making catalog threads

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>we're definitely not scared btw. please don't put in the paper that we got scared

>> No.66418795

>>66418643
Boy I wish that was the case. Please leave us alone.

>> No.66418995

>>66418643
You seem really angry. Triggered even

>> No.66419126

>>66418643
Wait, so if all the Vshojo anti posts are written by falseflagging vshojofags, and this is a Vshojo anti post, does that mean...
Anon...

>> No.66419236

>>66419126
the brilliants minds from numbers. KEK

>> No.66419257

>>66418355
People camp our thread

>> No.66419338

>>66418445
I think you dreamed it, I don’t know I don’t watch Matpat anymore

>> No.66419340
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>>66419126
Anon is /in/!

>> No.66420102

>>66418643
But enough about Phase.

>> No.66420278

>>66418643
Nijiseethe tactics we all k know shit posting everywhere intensified with Pomu's graduation announcement.

>> No.66420324

>>66418202
>Vshojo just embracing the poaching allegations now
Hey OP, explain why is VShojo poaching bad.

>> No.66421687

>>66418337
Poaching implies some chicanery. Imagine if one company poached every girl to drive a competing corpo out of business, then just dumped all the talent a month later with clever contract loopholes. Or made them pay for their own debut to keep them in debt.

>> No.66422910

>>66421687
Yeah that would be bad, but vshojo isn't dling that, they're just offering better terms to the talents than niji.

>> No.66423041

>>66422910
fwiw, both Mysta and Nina have implied that they were planning to leave BEFORE VShojo approached them. Now whether you believe that is a different matter

>> No.66423156

>>66418643
This is the MO for literally every other corpo that isn't Holo/Niji. Nobody cares about the #5 most watch vtuber org outside of twitch

>> No.66423315

>>66421687
>Or made them pay for their own debut to keep them in debt.
Ok, but enough about Niji

>> No.66423426

>>66418202
Vshojo don't want to do the hardwork to train a newbie cause in the end they want easy money from these graduations.

>> No.66423469

>>66418719
Henya is a whore now...

>> No.66423677

>>66423426
why build someone from nothing when they can just take their IP and leave?
the "hire a complete nobody" method only makes sense when you blackmail them by keeping the rights to their name/models/channels

>> No.66423767

>>66423677
Yeah thats why i said its a business. The allegations of poaching should not be ashamed or dismissed.

>> No.66424226

>>66423469
>now

>> No.66424734

>>66418202
>marine in the window

>> No.66425262

>>66418202
Hello internet, welcome to VTuber Theory!

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>>66423469

>> No.66426039

>>66418202
Vshojo fills a niche for seasoned professionals. It's a niche that shouldn't exist, but it does so someone was going to exploit it eventually. Vshojo gives people continuity and control in a corporatized system. Even just their existence (let alone success) changes how the game is played and balances the pressures holo/niji output.

>> No.66426082

Explain how it is poaching when a talent leaves a toxic evil company that neither pays well nor treats them well. VShojo is more like the convalescent home for the disenfranchised.

>> No.66426225

>>66423677
VShojo has taken new talents and 2views before. Neither Froot nor Hime (if you count her) were vtubers before VShojo, and Geega was a nobody leeching off of her friends' views.
Gunrun isn't against hiring nobodies. He just likes betting on a sure thing.

>> No.66426442

>>66418202
Why shouldn't they?

>> No.66426735

>>66418202
The fact that Kuro's happy to make like this should tell you about the situation he used to be in.

>> No.66426792

I would probably join vshoujo too if I joined niji and earned a decent following who cared more about me than the brand.

>> No.66426877

>>66426735
Kuro's a whiny gossiping cunt. The fact that he would leave Niji-fucking-sanji for VShitshow tells you all you need to know about his fragile mental health. Same goes for Nina and anyone else they scalp in the future. I fucking hate Gunrun so much its unreal.

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>>66426877
That's some fine Nijiseethe.

>> No.66427174

>>66426225
>Froot nor Hime
were both content creators before vtubing, non-bodies
>Geega was a nobody leeching
it's call networking loser, everyone who's successful does it
anyways, she already had a 4view ccv before joining so she ain't a nobody either
vshojo is never gonna hire a never done nothing 2view like other corpos would, simple

>> No.66427337

>>66427174
>vshojo is never gonna hire a never done nothing 2view like other corpos would, simple
Good.

>> No.66427640

>>66426877
Least salty Nijisister

>> No.66428232

>>66423469
They've defiled my daughterwife

>> No.66428819

>>66419126
Numberchimps are not sending their best

>> No.66428965

>>66427174
>were both content creators before vtubing
Froot was a known artist, but the only streams she did before debut were her drawing her own model, weren't they?

>> No.66429029

>>66428965
Her oldest streams (on the same account) were of her drawing her own model before debut

>> No.66430423

>>66418202
>Absolutely shameless
No, absolutely BRILLIANT

>> No.66432419

>>66426877
Anon as much as people hate vshitshow here nobody is putting niji fucking sanji above it lol

>> No.66434080

>>66418202

>> No.66434518

>>66418202
Is the JP sides completely dead now?

>> No.66436107

>>66418202
BASED BASED BASED

>> No.66436757

>>66418643
That's some impressive gaslighting right there.

>> No.66437317

>>66434518
They have a talent who lives in Japan full time (and possibly one or more others moving there), and that part of the company still does work with JP companies for mocap and stuff, so no

>> No.66437424

>>66418202
Vshojo really wants to be the smash Bros of vtubing is why they are so against the whole "Vtuber loses their model once they leave a corpo", is not because they actually care about the talents is because they can't make some huge big reveal like "MYSTA JOINS VSHOJO/PIKAMEE JOINS VSHOJO" it needs to be always a new persona wink wink

>> No.66437436

>>66418202
Would this entice Gura to Vshojo??? What are they planning over there at Vshojo???

>> No.66437451

If Niji can't make an honest effort to retain talent then it's inevitable that other corpos will capitalize on that.

>> No.66437799

>>66423469
She always was. She just didn't know the English words for it.

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>>66437424
>Vshojo really wants to be the smash Bros of vtubing
BASED

>> No.66439460

>>66437424
>Vshojo really wants to be the smash Bros of vtubing
>Smash Bros is the most popular game in it's genre.
So you're saying vshojo have goals and aspirations?

>> No.66441061

>>66418202
based desu

>> No.66442130

>>66423469
She's jerks off to loli. She has loli hentai posters on her wall.

>> No.66442812

>>66437317
You know what I mean
The whole VShojoNEXT thing was obviously an attempt to push into the Japanese market. But all of VShojo's current streamers speak English, with a few being bilingual. Did they just give up on recruiting JP streamers and settle on taking NijiEN's sloppy seconds?

>> No.66442818

>>66418202
His Twitter game is fire!

Just as funny as when chat wanted to name Aethels puppy Ninjisanji, but he wanted to keep it longer than 2 weeks and didn't want gunrun to raise it.

>> No.66442837

>>66426877
Any color and yet you chose black

>> No.66443198

>>66442812
They thought they could fix Mikeneko...nobody can fix Mikeneko. I imagine the other 3 leaving as well made them change course. It's interesting because they have a VERY likely potential JP member in Sushidog, who does VShojo art that she sells at conventions.

>> No.66443568

>>66443198
They didn't give a rat's about Miguel once she was in the door. I remember hearing a bunch of stuff about how they'd have 5 JP members by the end of 2023 and they ended up with two.
Apparently all of their internal Discords were in English too. The only thing you can really blame her for is not being able to spearhead a full JP branch by herself with Kson, which is probably the dumbest complaint you could pitch. Voice Ore has done more for her in a few months than VShojo did in a year and a half.

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>>66423469
Yeah, mine.
It wasn't an ahegao toggle used either, it was her making that face with me during the stream.

>> No.66445574

>>66418202
To prevent poaching it's very simple, just treat and pay your talents better

>> No.66445716

>>66443767
Henya was always an anti social terminally online loli loving degenerate trying to act normal. That's what makes her interesting.

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>>66418337
Literally this.
It just means better contracts for the talents.

>> No.66446406

Isnt Kuro running away from tax fraud?

>> No.66446518

>>66443568
he said as soon as possible, not by the end of 2023
classic example of catalogthirdies making shit up then getting mad at the shit they made up

>> No.66446806

>>66446406
And that's a good thing

>> No.66446939

>>66446518
Well they've gotten one and lost one in a year and a half, so going off of this holding pattern, they'll reach that target approximately never
Not sure why anyone would actually get "mad" about it, though. Barely anyone in the /vsj/ threads even knew Japanese and they'd only watch any JP additions out of some weird brand loyalty or something rather than a genuine interest in JP Vtubers. I think the idea of VShojo expanding into the Japanese sphere is moreso the "meh" that was heard around the world.

>> No.66447648

>>66421687
poaching is a term invented by megacorporations to lobby for laws to legally bar people from moving to jobs with better pay and humane conditions

this is also a massive fucking reach and fair grounds for getting absolutely assblasted by multiple fraud and other business related lawsuits holy shit

VShojo is also NOT poaching, they have been headhunting unemployed and on their way out as in literally doing the paperwork for resignation and ending contract talents. retards on /vt/ are just being retarded about everything as usual

VShojo members are also INDEPENDENT, their identities are owned by themselves. it's a company that just helps with events, sponsors, merch, etc with no cut from donations but understandably it needs a talent to be established, like Mythic, the difference is VShojo self identifies as a VTuber company
so it's obviously not even the same type of corporation as Anycolor and Cover

>> No.66447760

>>66446406
>taxation is theft, unless it's le bad pink V

>> No.66447773

>>66446406
Honestly based

>> No.66449404

>>66418643
All that copium is bad for you anon

>> No.66449477

>>66418795
Lol

>> No.66449507

>the Vshojo "poaching" victim is bawling her eyes out and thanking them for "saving her life"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qx-iyrUqSY

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