/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Is NijiEN finished? With the new waves getting abysmal views, some of their heavy hitters leaving and all the drama surrounding them I don't see any way that they can turn the ship around.
Their current horrible reputation makes it so that no one actually talented would want to join their newer waves so it looks like their fate is to slowly fade away until they'll get merged into the main branch like HoloID.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66220298
All they need to do is cut back on the 2views and focus on a core of their best talents, but that's not how niggersanji does things so it won't happen

[Anonymous No.]

They are going to transition to become an asia-focused branch. They have effectively left the western market

[Anonymous No.]

>>66220450
A wise move. The western chuuba boom is over and only really ever benefitted Hololive

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>>66220515
The western market is insanely profitable though. So much disposable income.
Look at HoloEN, or Phase. Even small corps can exist with a tiny amount of viewers the market makes so much money

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>>66220515
HoloEN will fall eventually too.
The indie scene is way more interesting than the corpo strategy

[Anonymous No.]

>>66220515
Just because JP corpos have stagnated in the West doesn't mean the western market has stopped growing. Growth is shifting to indies and homegrown corpos.

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>>66220879
yeah its vailure time to shine in 2024

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>>66220515
English is the global language. There's nothing to gain from returning to isolationism and China will always be a bad bet in the country's current state.

[Anonymous No.]

Let us thank her for NijiEN's reputational freefall

[Anonymous No.]

Well their image is irreparably fucked so they're not on their best moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>66220450
Would be interesting to see how the clique adapts to the new environment after being absorbed into the japanese branch.

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>>66220879
Problem is the West isn't into kayfabe like the east does. And the ones that are watch Hololive. I call streamers like Filian Shylily and Nihimune "streamers that use a vtuber model" and streamers like Fuwamoco, Bijou, Cali, Fauna actual vtubers who play characters not themselves. Hololive also has people more like Shylily, like Kiara, Nerissa, Shiori who are not playing a character. The west seems to heavily prefer people that don't play characters, they just like female streamers that are creative or charismatic

[Anonymous No.]

>>66220298
dec.10 2023
the new wave en audition just finish so watch out for the new en wave debut next month

[Anonymous No.]

>>66221049
I think Sayu, Airi and Shiina should be locked up in a room for the whole night with a 3DIO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66221049
SEIG ZAION

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>>66220430
By tribalism they confederated, and once the yatch was in the water, they split like the Babel-Tower bros. This is what happens when you are leading a coalition of tribes, with no future vision.

Was imperialism right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66221182
People who think like you dismissed the idea that any form of Vtubers could ever succeed in the West though, you're just moving the goalposts saying they're not REAL choobers. Yes there's going to be some cultural differences but it's undeniable that virtual models have been a success in the Western market, it's now a major category in streaming which was unthinkable 4 years ago.

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>>66220515
niji also benefitted even if they came at the tail end. Niji's problem is that they suck at foreign expansion. Niji is a well known entity in japan so they act like they can just drop new foreign branches and their brand name will carry the rest. Neglect and poor management is what killed kr, id, and is strangling en.
Cover was smart by making holoen seem a part of hololive and not a vestigial limb. It even ended up reviving holoid who were starting to go the way of nijiid.

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>>66220298
They didn't even try to turn the ship around after the concert cancellation - that was the time to invest in some project that would keep morale up. Now they are so far beyond the point of no return, that the only viable strategy is to milk the existing fanbase while minimising cost.

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>>66220298
https://youtu.be/TORK_8K63_k?si=JNyuKTt_hYn939Ex

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>>66221494
But they aren't. It's not a bad thing, but it's not what original vtubers represented. The point was to create a persona separate from yourself or maintain anonymity, these days it's more like just another vehicle to stream you yourself and maintain 0 anonymity in general. There's no denying that the dynamic is completely different, if you've interacted with both you would know this. When you interact with someone like Nihmune you interact with them on discord, on twitter, and even see them in person at conventions, it's a much different dynamic than watching someone play a character in streams who you don't interact with on a closed level like you do when your part of a streamers community. There's no denying the way you interact with Kizuna Ai, Fuwamoco, Pekora is wayyy different as a fan a member of their community

[Anonymous No.]

I think they have a big audience to stay afloat for quite a long time, but their creative core will continue to deteriorate.
Pomu and Selen were really trying to actually push the boundaries, and with them gone the content will most likely converge to just playing current_popular_game and promoting merch, maybe releasing song covers from time to time. There are still some creative chubas there, but I don't feel that they are ambitious enough to push against the higher ups, so a slow descent into mediocrity it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66221182
The problem isn't the kayfabe, but the corpo structure.
The japanese work environment doesn't work in the western market, you NEED to give them more freedom.

That's why Vshojo is the best western corpo and that's why Phase Connect is growing up quite fast.

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>>66221883
This anon gets it. Hire good people and get the hell out of their way and let them work. Support them when they need it but keep your fingers out of their business.

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>>66221883
But you just mentioned the two corpos that do the least kayfabe of the bunch, that just reinforces my point that the west prefers less kayfabe. Most small corpos are shifting over in fact. Name one small western corpo that does kayfabe that's successful. Independent streamers are superior in the western market because they are they are just streamers with vtuber models, and small corpos reflect that too. I can name 10 jp streamers from small corpos that kayfabe but I can't even name 10 English ones, and I watch nearly every English small corpo and only 3 Japanese ones.

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>>66221883
Now that I read your points again I see heat your saying, your saying it's freedom not lack of kayfabe that's the recipe for success, counterpoint, which independent vtuber maintains kayfabe and is successful in the west? I can't think of s single one

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>>66221841
>just playing current_popular_game and promoting merch, maybe releasing song covers from time to time
Maybe you should have a look at their channels because that's the exact content they produce too.

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>>66222159
NijiEN barely did kayfabe around the time of Noctyx.

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN will stay around as long as it's profitable. NijiID got merged into the main branch because the chunk of their livers were actual 2views streaming to literally like 20 people outside of Mika and Hana. NijiEN isn't even near that grim of a state yet. Even the worst performers are always above mid-3view status.

[Anonymous No.]

They still mog holoEN regularly

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>>66222366
Of course, but there were exceptions. And with the way it is heading now, these exceptions will become more and more rare

[Anonymous No.]

I mean you all replying of all the successful western vtubers that don't do kayfabe just proves my point you know. How about you name some western ones that do and are successful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66222770
fuwamoco

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>>66220298
Considering a lot of people agree with the "Golden 20" meme, the moment Selen leaves, NijiEN will go under. It's easy for them to taint the reputation of a yab machine like Sayu, but people actually like Selen and can see how often she gets screwed over

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>>66222462
in graduations kek

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>>66221883
>That's why Vshojo is the best western corpo and that's why Phase Connect is growing up quite fast.
It is hilarious that there are people who genuinely believe this.

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>>66222159
Biggest kayfabe autist on the EN scene is in Phase and she earn enough money to live. The problem is not about kayfabe, but how scripted and corporate restricted it is. Western market dislikes weak play so many streamer simply opt out into simpler mix of the fake and real persona.

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>>66222809
I already said Hololive doesn't count, they are the last ones that have a few

[Anonymous No.]

>>66223083
muu muyu

[Anonymous No.]

ZEN KINO. ONE THROW IT ON THE SECOND EVEN IF YOU ARE ON MOUSES.

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>>66223034
Who, Remi? She's less popular than the ones that don't do kayfabe

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>>66223103
I havent gotten around to watching her, but I did watch her as Purin and she was just being herself

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>>66222366
Every time they tried to do something besides stream the game of the month and shill merch, they got gigacucked by their management. Fuck dude selen is on suspension for this exact reason.

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>>66220298
What happened to ID and KR will happen to EN.

They will bleed talents until the higher-ups deem it no longer worth being a separate branch.
And then things will get even worse, and talents will keep leaving until EN is fully dead.

Only Kotoka and Meloco have a chance of survival.

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>>66220298
>no one has commented on the HoloID at the end
I am convinced that everyone in this thread are bots

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>>66222329
If you believe the rrats, Zentreya
Otherwise, Girl_DM if you consider it kayfabe to present a specific controlled image which is not representative of your private self

If kayfabe means that you play the role of a fictional character then all vtubers fail and FWMC is the only one left actually trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>66223593
Actually it's because no one cares about ID and is still confused as to why they have their own branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>66223593
>>66223761
Slowchamas...everyone else understood it's about NijiID, which got folded into the main branch...

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>>66221883
I will also include the business model in that structure.
For consumers like us, is totally retarded to pay merch from japan.They could contact any manufacturer in America and sell merch from there, like uwumarket for example.
For the Vtubers....permission autism doesnt make sense in the west, and the models of indies are way better nowadays.

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>>66222817
Even then, plenty of people still took Zaion’s side. I agree with you that Zaion is easier to slander because she did plenty of little yabs that painted her as a headache for management (even if it was definitely nowhere near as bad as that list). Still, remember that that was the start of the shift as plenty of people who aren’t /here/ started to turn on NijiEN.

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>>66223156
She also makes more money than several of the talents who are more popular than her. By the way, I don’t like GFE and I’m concerned for Wemi if any of her paypigs leave. But EN kayfabe is doable, if a bit niche.
…And of course, she’s SEA. It’s not a race thing, SEA just has a stronger anime culture than the west does. Anime kayfabe probably doesn’t feel as weird to them. Hot take: if kayfabe gets more popular in the west, SEAfriends are going to lead the way as the only English speakers who can do it without feeling too cringe and needing to add some “irony” to it.

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>>66221883
Ahh the Infamous Talent Freedom meme, are you kson?
If you really wanted the ultimate "talent freedom", you wouldn't even join a corpo like vshojo and be indie instead.
And even with get that supposed "talent freedom" then why are the HoloGirls seem to accomplish much more than other vtubers?

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>>66224063
>If you really wanted the ultimate "talent freedom", you wouldn't even join a corpo like vshojo and be indie instead.
VShojo provides a support system that makes it easier to do the things you want to do, while never having any sort of control over whether or not you can do it.

Mel said recently that she has literally never heard her manager tell her no. Even if something can't be done for whatever reason, they still try to make it happen.

This is the typical behavior of a Western talent agency. VShojo only uses it as marketing because the Western vtubing scene is poisoned by the Hololive template.

>even with get that supposed "talent freedom" then why are the HoloGirls seem to accomplish much more than other vtubers?
Because Hololive has significantly more staff and funding? Has nothing to do with freedom.

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>>66220298
>>66220450
It looks like they're heading in the direction of their ID branch: grow, slowly fall apart due to lack of support, get "reintegrated" into the main branch AKA put into storage until everyone decides to graduate

[Anonymous No.]

>>66224435
There's also the idea of the Hololive brand just giving them more reach.
>Oh I want to do a music project, well heres 5-6 composers we are in touch with, and if you really want, we can reach out to a new one and begin negotiations
>Want to appear in this gacha game? Let's fucking do it, it's a win-win for both sides.
>I'd like to do some more advertising, well here's an opportunity to put your avatar on some kinda common thing, a train station wall, a small shop promotion etc
I know vshojo has some degree of physical advertising, but it doesn't have that extra push that some of the Holo stuff does. Maybe that will change over time, but for now holos are just stacked with a better system for "success" since their avenues for growth outside of plain streaming are larger.

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>>66221883
Yeah that's what I noticed following NijiEN since the beginning. Creativity inherently relies upon pushing boundaries and innovating: both things that Japanese work culture is terrible at dealing with. My hope was the EN branch would be eventually separated and managed as its own thing but that didn't work out. Ultimately, this will make them stagnant and uncompetitive in the west.

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>>66221883
>Vshojo is the best western corpo
i'm curious, what's the difference between them and niji/cover and what makes them the best?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66225187
Their talents get to do whatever they want without any obstruction from management

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>>66225451
>without any obstruction from management
you can't play harry potter game

[Anonymous No.]

>>66220879
I agree, nothings stays popular forever
If I was a holo fan I would be worried

[Anonymous No.]

>>66225850
Silver did. Multiple times. Nobody stopped her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66225932
>"honey, everybody make mistakes!"
>"i can't play that" said NotRushia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66226019
Advice is not a command
Nazuna took the advice, Silver did not

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>>66225877
I've heard this one before
And it's a given, popularity ain't forever, hell even the chuubas are aware of this(I remember a hologra episode tackling this exact worry), that is why everyone in Hololive are just enjoying things while they are still there

[Anonymous No.]

>>66226094
I wonder if "advice" is just interpreted as "commands" by the Japanese.

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>>66222916
guess who got an ad in FILIAN AWARDS
sakana is winning cry about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66226220
I think Nazuna never truly grasped that VShojo did not operate like Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>66225850
They were advised not to, that's different from a hard no

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>>66223867
The problem is that when you are corporate in this sense, that is important no matter where in the world you are because you are making profit off someone's work without copyright having clear defined rules because it was last updated at in Bern, Switzerland in the 1800s when nothing like this existed at all. No corporation is going to take the risk someone will do that to their money-making work online except for E-celeb founded ones focused on themselves. Especially so since the Vtuber companies are public stock companies. I haven't seen a single influencer or talent agency in the West on the public market at all.

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>>66220298
the vulture will standby for the JP branch next.

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>>66220879
The fall of corpos, that's something I'd want to see. A free for all where only the best of the best get the attention and the smaller chubas scrambling to get by with the scraps. A glorious future just as Vtuber jeesas intended

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>>66220934
It's a cope posted by nijinogs and hologroids to explain why westoids would prefer to watch tungsten rat and filian and pink rabbit than wait for their girls to stop being on their never ending hiatuses. Mumei is literally a week or two of streams from 1 million subs and she's just fucking gone. Western girls in japanese companies have seemingly no motivation to do shit.

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>>66221234
I am going to lock shiina in a suitcase and take her home.

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>>66225187
Henya can get her model redesigned to have a giant ass and tits while still being a loli. They also have a robot.

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>>66220430
Seriously they should shut off support on jobbers like aia, kyo, kotoka, and the newest waves which are failures since day 1. They're beyond saving.

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>>66220879

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>>66227817
Meant to quote>>66225877

[Anonymous No.]

Saying HoloEN is on its way out after their best year, after a dismal 2022 which they were able to turn around is pretty funny.

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>>66224063
>muh kson talent freedom
kson never said that.
you are free to prove me otherwise by posting a clip or timestamp, threadreader-kun

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>>66220298
For better or worse they are not done but instead of the sweet release of death it will fade to irrelevancy.

>>66221883
It's a management problem. Whoever they brought after Noctyx's release has been doing a god awful job. What can we say? They fuck it every time they do anything.
They had a pretty great management during the first year and it was replaced by these nips that clearly don't give a shit or are incompetent as fuck. Some people have even speculated they are straight up saboteurs because of how shitty their work has been.
They tried to play the management game and it backfired (Remember Nina and Yugo's numberfagging leaks?) then they decided to just leave them alone and push AR Live only to realize they didn't have enough manpower to make it happen in such a small period of time and also they overworked and lied to their own streamers.
After that massive failure they decided to just do nothing and look at what happened. Doesn't matter if something bad happens they are nips inside a nip company, no one is going to get blamed or punished.

During the Luxiem era they had a fuckton of perms and that doesn't only include games. How many times are people like Pomu (RIP) and Rosemi going to complain about waking up every now and then and the perms for many of their songs are gone? Karaoke's had been dropped because of this. Those songs? Well it's been years and it looks like they'll never sing them again.
I mean come on the only issue they had with perms their first year was Capcom's dub bullshit for OG RE4 for fuck's sake.

I could continue talking about every single shit that conveniently no one ever mentions but those that stuck in this shitty ass ride noticed.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>66227218
>Your rebranded oshi WILL do heavy coomer bait

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>>66232963
holy based. gunrun i kneel, please convince her to do suggestive asmr

[Anonymous No.]

>>66233166
AND MAKE HER 'LEAK' MORE NUDES

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>>66220298
soon

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>>66220430
the business strategy is clearly the opposite
generate massive amounts of small casual streamers, have the build small but very dedicated communities, then milk the oilers
they are forcing the old waves into either letting their bar for quality out quitting for a reason. they have changed course from the initial waves that were clearly meant to be competitive with other English corporations until the marketing people figured that the money is easy enough for them to just take the low hanging fruits, so they just turn EN into the same simp milking factory the majority of JP is

hell with needing to keep investors satisfied making the majority of the members too under the radar to cause any major controversy that could influence the stock price, their efforts to shut down their overachieving large EN talents make all the more sense
the more soulless business the whole company becomes the more they focus on stability and low risk

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>>66227427
well the shit Hololive does is one or two extra jobs' work on top of streaming so them begging their rapidly burning out members to stay even if inactive makes sense
it's a shitton of work to clean up after a member leaves and like it or not Myth and Council members are also individually way too important as Hololive's faces on the West

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>>66222329
>counterpoint, which independent vtuber maintains kayfabe and is successful in the west?
Shondo. She keeps up the little sister kayfabe really well and knows how to exactly cater her audience. She's reaching 4view status.

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>>66241434
You don't have stability that way, you're essentially treating talents as disposable as fast-food workers in an industry that wants and encourages parasocialism to thrive. It's also stupid when the market operates by free-market principles and you're essentially flooding the market for this niche. JP may work when they tend to toe the line so you won't even get churn this way. But clearly it has not worked outside Japan.

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>>66221836
Vtubers originally represented shortform scripted content and not live streaming. Things change.

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>>66222329
Neuro, but considering AI "hallucinates" believing everything with 100% faith, no human can even compare.

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>>66232963
*unzips cock*

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>>66225042
Other than perms autism, HoloEN seems to be doing all right, although you could chalk it up to Cover being less typically Japanese than many corpos. That, and them bringing over the good part of JP corpos, which is their connections to the multimedia complex that creates all those various adaptations of weeb content.

[Anonymous No.]

It's weird how it's far cheaper to make your existing talents happy and to do everything you can to please them while you print money off merch. Whereas trying to debut new talents that wont be as successful as your existing talents only costs a lot of money in the long run.

But it seems Nijisanji would rather do everything they can to treat their existing talents like shit thinking they can easily replace them for some reason.

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>>66243548
They don’t have the infrastructure or human capital to make all the talents happy. Look at how little staff they have for all their talent. I’ve also heard an anon claim that Anycolor outsourced the hiring of their staff for NijiEN to some Singaporean firm, so it’s all SEAs who don’t give a shit. I don’t know if that’s true, but it sounds plausible given Anycolor’s meta, which is low effort, low cost, low threshold needed for profit.
I think virtually every anon agrees that Nijisanji’s model is running into issues. The problem is, imagine how much it would cost to completely transform how the company is run and also make everyone who’s already there believe that the rules really are different.
Maybe it could happen if profits fall, Riku is replaced, and the new CEO convinces shareholders that it’s this or bankruptcy. I doubt that’ll happen though.

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>>66243768
> I’ve also heard an anon claim that Anycolor outsourced the hiring of their staff for NijiEN to some Singaporean firm
It was indeed proven that SEA are in charge of EN only a couple of people including the branch director japanese. Personal managers are also a mixed bunch which seem to be the only ones that survived the 2022 staff replacement and are what it was left from their golden era staff.

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>>66242468
yes you do. that is exactly the stable way.
no Gundou-like scandal to hurt stock price
no danger of the entire western brand suffering irreparable same with a Gura level retirement ring of the face of you western branding

this is the corporate reality when it becomes cold business. it is just correct by cold amoral logic that people must be reduced to replaceable tools for the sake of long term stability and safety.

Nijisanji EN have long ago became that kind of corporation, and management is clearly winning in their effort to root out any overachievers and force the talents with far more potential into lowering their bar for quality and effort to keep it low for everyone

most of the EN members being casual streamers clearly thrive in this environment because it keeps their communities small and close knit(feeding mutual parasocial tendencies between the streamer and the collective of the chatters), and they don't try to keep making big projects and organize events that would give extra work to the management that very obviously has an anti-work office culture which boils down to fighting tooth and nail to minimize their workload to close to nothing and lower any bar for performance as low as possible

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>>66220879
Indie? lol you mean like yesterday an indie having a woman moment because her rigger chargeback her donation and she doxx her TWICE. The rigger quit twitter and her job entirely because of the doxx.
>take the indie pill guys

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>>66220298
Yes. Next thread please.

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN was finished after Millie's secret chat stream and the cancellation of their 3d lives after it. It was already dead at that point and now it's just people trying to get out with their reputation intact and nijisanji and its fans trying to stop them/destroy them on the way out

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>>66243768
>The problem is, imagine how much it would cost to completely transform how the company is run and also make everyone who’s already there believe that the rules really are different.
It's a titanic task, not only it's huge radical change internally, but also they'd have to somewhat fix their public image which is already very poor atm with people constantly calling them black company (and for good reason). That stigma is going to be so damn difficult to remove that it just might never disappear, it will just become a clearer shade of black.

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In retrospect, iluna debut was the beggining of the end,
>Huge viewership, tons of people subbed before debut
>Scuff, none of the character voices matched the models at all.
>SJW cunt that marketed herself with a rice purity score barely above a heroin addict
>Male SJW cunt whose brand was cuckoldry content with their previous viral sensation Enna
>dipshit video game rager who for some reason got a uwu twink model,
>generic guy whose brand was trying to mooch engagement reply guying to holo CGDCT girls, >Scarle ended up okay I guess but the whiplash between her pre-debut hype and her actual personality made 80% of her viewers dip out instantly.

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>>66226291
wait, the heckin fillian awards???

[Anonymous No.]

>go hang out and lurk any Scarle live
>have it on in the background while I do other stuff
>at least a 50% chance that at some point she'll have to pause for a moment at some point because management sent her something
>literally just watch this bitch get micromanaged at least every other stream

She's not even rocking the boat, I can't imagine what it must be like for some of the others.

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>>66252863
Imagine being one of the Chinese expats hired to be NijiEN management and your actual job is to sit there 7 hours a day monitoring Scarle reading chat and playing around with her model on screen, having to pay attention and ping her on discord every time it looks like she might do a yab in front of her 400 paypigs.

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>>66252240
iluna represents the spirit of the company in the sense that there is supposed to be someone for everyone, even if they only get 80 views while others get 20k. It's throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks and that worked in JP cause a lot of their livers do it as a part time gig, others who do it full time actually get support from management and access to be able to take part in events and lives. The problem was never them trying a wave of normies, it was mismanagement from the start. Their rate of debut at the JP rate would never have worked but I never saw anything wrong with having a lower ccv as long as they're happy and not feeling like a failure cause they earn less and get less views. Numbers aren't the issue when the model is built around having a wide variety of people to watch. It's management, both too tight management of some and too lax of others in combination with the wrong management mindset.

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>>66252240
It’s honestly mind blowing that they managed to cast six people whose voices and personalities don’t match their models in the slightest. Maria in particular annoyed me because I love her design but instead of a haughty chunni she’s just some generic ass Australian.

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>>66254407
Maria is so forgettable I actually forgot she exists when making that list. She's a bootleg Rosemi you can buy on Temu.

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>>66254407
Maria's voice for the most part fits her design, it's just that they gave her too much of a chunni design that is just not a part of her personality. I guess Scarle grew into her model at least.

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>>66220298
It's up to our unlikely hero to fill in the big shoes.

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>>66253701
That's the thing about it. She's usually not even close to doing a yab most of the time. Usually she's just sidetracked but chat is fine with it.

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>>66221049
Has Sayu said anything about the current drama?

[Anonymous No.]

and people ask why i don't want more streamers in vshojo yet. this thread and situation answers that question quite well.

>>66254407
it's almost as if they don't actually know what they're doing and they're throwing shit at the wall hoping it sticks. holo no different.

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>>66260128
It's because of her that the whole "Nijisanji is a Black company" with her google doc exposing the management and the bad treatment she was receiving.

You can say she indeed did a lot of shit (like the rape joke), but you can't say that she does not have influence in making people realize that how rotten Nijisanji is.

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>>66260128
No, she's actually putting effort moving past her time there

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>>66243768
I think this shows how they really feel.
Anycolor spent the same amount of money that Cover spent on their studio doing stock buybacks.

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>>66248713
I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Context?