Bae...

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https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1743165061974380878

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>>66016144
lmao, worse than nijisanji

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>>66016177
AR live postponed for a year

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They need to make some changes based on Myth's announcement tomorrow

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>>66016144
not ogey rrat

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>>66016177
AIIIEEEEE SIS DONT LOOK

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>>66016144
this is how professional act instead of throwing tantrum telling clipper to reupload

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>>66016229
Most likely the case

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>>66016144
Meanwhile, Nijisanji...

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>>66016229
A rarely keep up to date with myth, what was the announcement?

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Reminder that Gura has a fully complete, unreleased cover song because the retards at Cover didn't check to see if they had perms for it.
The fact that this shit still happens is baffling.

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>>66016400
holofaggots will see something bad happen to one of their chuubas and instantly deflect to another company instead of acknowledging it

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Bae...

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>>66016289
Learn the difference between a priori and ex post facto

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>>66016177
>Postponing the release of a cover is worse than privating a video AFTER it's released and you gave the member the ok to post it
Retard

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>>66016486
>>66016177, nijisisters start it. It's simply a reminder to let them know their place as the one and only black of company

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>>66016486
Truly, Hololive is a success in spite of Cover, not because of them.

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>>66016486
Nice nijiseethe, sister

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>>66016486
All Out War.

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Her current manager must be Kronii's old manager.

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>>66016486
not our fault niji is black company

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it was so easy to get (you)s it almost feels unfair

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>>66016144
I blame Advent for this

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>>66016144
Probably perms stuff, hang in there Bae…

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>>66016177
FPBP

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>>66016144
Take it easy bae like your own advice. One day at a time. Go take a vacation or something.

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she sounds mad and she's saying that it happened "again" so is it perms? i dont think its a member's fault. She also said earlier in the stream that it wasnt fully done so it might something in the making

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>>66016502
I can safe her space with my penis of justic.e

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>>66016502
she is going to HATE living in japan after a while. corpo autism causing bullshit is the way the world moves over there and if she has issues with it now then oof.

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>>66016736
My money is on the newly scheduled Advent outfit reveal streams

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>>66016412
gura's graduation

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>>66016144
Gura ghosted her...

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>>66016144
Ina refused to sing. Or rather. Ina refused to get her part done on time.

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>>66016876
SEAbro...

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Advent's fault. God, I wish they graduated them.

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>>66016853
The song has been in production hell for 6 months. Lots of holo members releasing covers have ran into the same repeated delays.

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>>66016424
Reminder that ReUnion is still not released despite being announced however many months ago.

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>>66016144
nijisister never learn

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>>66016486
Nijisister……
>>66016177

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Poor rat can’t catch a break, huh.

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She can just go collab with the Homos again.

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Perhaps Coco, Rushia, Sana, Vaspor and Magni showed up in her music video.

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>>66016853
Ppl dont watch bae at all right? In the announcement she said that the song wasnt ready so probably last minute stuff happened to the mv, why is she saying that happened again? Her song with pekora also have the same problem

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>>66016502
>members only
Kys. Actual bullying.

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>>66017089
Even if they did that, that would prevent the release. Mori released an MV that had Magni and Vesper in it after they quit.

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>>66017122
Members only doesn't mean anything anymore in the era of ARS gifts

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>>66016144
She's the one girl who doesn't deserve this
>>66016502
Members leakers are pure scum

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>>66016144
WAIT WHAT HAPPENED D:
that's so silly! I think anyone who uploads covers have never encountered anything like this before did you received a confirmation/OK sign to manesan before uploading this cover? BAU BAU!!

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>>66018134
now shop it and post on catalog

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>>66017304
cry cause my government pays for my memberships and yours sends money to kill palestinian kids

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>>66016874
Absolutely. Weebs have no fuckin clue how shitty Japan is.
You are pretty much expected to work until you die at your job and find it honorable to do so. You will put up with every single fucking hurdle they'll throw in front of you and you better be grateful that they placed that hurdle because clearly they did it out of love for you.

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>>66016177
you can say that if she tries to kill herself too

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>>66018458
In baes defense she's a lot less menhera than selen.

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>>66018361
But that's one of the best things the government spends my money on.

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>>66018433
Food costs like triple where I live and is 1000x worse. Not to mention the broken ass road infrastructure and 3rd world internet service.

I don't fucking care how much I need to work for it, I'd kill to leave Canada and live in Japan. It's unrealistic for me at the moment, but I'm looking for basically anywhere else to move. Maybe you live somewhere that is better than Japan. I don't.

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>>66016584
Schizo pretending he watches hololive. We’ve gotten a lot of those recently

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>>66017304
Newfag

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>>66018593
Anyone complaining about Japan is a lazy SEA zoomer. Imagine complaining about job security when you can at anytime quit.

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>>66018477
IRyS is the least menhera for putting up with shit like the OP repeatedly for over a year until one day her boss just fucking abandoned her

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>>66018433
Bae isn't gonna be working in the accounting department of a local family owned company, she won't have to deal with the full load of Japanese corporate autism working as a vtuber for Cover

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>>66016502
>Kronii goes on a rant about her dogshit manager almost ruining MAFIA
>Now Bae is close to losing her own release

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>>66016144
What's Mind Craft?

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>>66016144
>>66016502
As an American, I have to say this is far and away the worst thing to ever happen in the history of January 6th

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>>66016614
Both JP corpos tossed their C tier employees to handle EN, but at least Cover is at least trying to hire good staff now

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>>66018846
New full EN Cover by Bae

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>>66018764
>Visit doctor(s)
>Took meds
>Experienced drastic mood swing
>Cried on stream out of happiness just because a random SC'er told her they love her
Eh, looked like she was pretty menhera-ish behind the scene. It's just that she took measures to keep it down in public

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>>66016502
hey bae maybe you should take your own advice and just chill.
maybe take the rest of the year off

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>>66016887
Gura literally will never graduate. She makes so much as Gura and cover doesn't give a shit what she does so long as she shows up to the shill streams and she gets to do concerts, which she likes. If she graduated she would need to get a real job that would pay less than she is making now and no one would put up with her shit or she if she went indie or to vshit show then she would need to actually stream for money. Gura is probably a millionaire, but idk if Gura, or any of the girls, currently have
>I never have to work again in my life, money.
they have only been doing hololive for like 3 and a half years. Vanilla ice sells light fixtures now. most black professional athletes are broke within 10 years of leaving sports.

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>>66018764
What shit? She released like 2 or 3 EPs, a couple singles and a few covers

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>>66018857
This but unironically

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>>66018764
Granted Bae isn't paying for this one but almost every other release she did from her own pockets, the same goes for Selen, in IRyS's case it was majority cover funding as the vsinger, I imagine it hits a lot harder when you self fund a project

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>>66018962
You don’t get it anon expenses aren’t real, taxes aren’t real, the expensive shit they buy also isn’t real. They could all retire today and never work again because the board is entirely people under 18

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>>66018962
of course they dont have that amount of money, they arent even big twitch streamer kind of wealthy. maybe marine but that's it

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The Selen curse... I'm so sorry Bae, you truly don't deserve this.

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>>66018593
Food in Japan can get expensive too. Especially if you're looking at fruits or beef.
Japans public transportation system is great though, absolutely.
But the grass isn't always greener. Japans shitty work culture has led to a declining population, declining research rates putting them below Iran even, and one of the highest suicide rates in any non shithole country
>>66018773
it is true tho that she has it easy for now but there's a lot of shitty parts of Japan people always underestimate

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> Blocking full branch cover
Oh no Selen now you have the whole holoen to share your experience with

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>>66019055
Her channel or main channel? That really determines if they’re paying and if it is cover funded why is Bae the lead?

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>>66018962
Everyone in Myth definitely made enough to not have to work anymore unless they spent it frivolously

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>>66018962
Not even Goomba is retarded enough to waste all her money. She mentioned at some point that she's invested in market ETFs/Funds, which is literally the best thing you can do in terms of longterm investments. Shork is a based Wallstreet Walker.

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>>66016502
So. Manager didn't report to upper management who now pulls the breaks because things aren't in order in their eyes?

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>>66019212
>unless they spent it frivolously
anon, sorry to tell you this, but they are women

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i feel sorry for bae but i really don't understand why they get so frustrated, they make good money with a relatively easy job that is super safe as the fans are so loyal unless they do really stupid shit, she doesnt even need this cover for nothing in particular

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>>66019257
Not only are they women, they are otaku.
That's like multiplying women by 5.

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>>66019197
It's gonna be on her channel, the 1 MIL yen cover rewarded Bae back during holobingo season is entirely being spent on this project, the remainder of the expenses are being covered from her own pockets

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>Scarle
>IRyS
>Selen
>Bae
At some point, no matter what side of the fence of the corpo war you stand on, you have to realize JP perm shit is the literal worse for our girls

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>>66019019
I wasn't being ironic
>>66019212
>>66019237
the girls are all in their 20s. do you think in 3 years they made enough cash to live off for the next 50-60 years? they are all going to have to get real jobs at some point

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>>66019261
It's not like someone who never produced anything in their life, like you, would understand.

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>>66016502
>leaking member's content
>leaking INCREDIBLY personal member's content
Literally choke to death on a live cockroach, retard.

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>>66019261
What? It’s something she has to plan for, she gets ready to premiere it, she made sure it’s all good to go, then someone else puts the brakes on it for whatever reason. Would you not get frustrated if someone at work, or your bosses delayed your projects because of their own laziness or whatever
You don’t have to throw a tantrum, but it would be dishonest to think you’d just smile through that shit.

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>>66016144
Poor thing…

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>>66019341
If they invested most of it yes

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>>66019139
It’s not because of work it’s because people aren’t happy. While the jury is still out on the root cause the obvious answer is women. They become whores men try to marry a whore then divorce and with divorces screwing men over less men want relationships making them unhappy. Or you could believe work it harder now than 200 years ago

>>66019107
Marine is the worst offender she blows through her money like water. She’d go broke the quickest in JP followed by Suisei and EN would be Mori.

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>>66016424
I thought that was an original.

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>>66019341
Gura is easily a multimillionaire, which is enough to retire at literallly any age. She's making six figures in passive income annually.

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>>66019347
>>66017306
>>66017122

Uhm, excuse me ma'ams, this is the internet, literally everything gets shared for free, and your sekret club messages are no exception.

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>>66018784
There is a significant time period between these two events.

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>>66019261
This is a very poor take, people who care about their content and fans will obviously stress over stuff like this

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Oh hey but Bae can upload the cover then tell her fan to reupload it somewhere then private the original one

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>>66019413
>She's making six figures in passive income annually.
>Source: My ass.

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>>66019449
Hehehehe

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>>66019311
That’s her money then why are you making it seem like it’s being bankrolled you retard.

>>66019261
You answered your own question they have no real struggles so they have pointless things to get emotional about

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>>66019452
5% (below average return for the S&P 500 btw) on 2 million nets you 100k. Gura does make that sort of money.

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>>66019413
Why are children allowed on this board?

>>66019416
I don’t know what’s worse them being complete newfags or the fact they act like they have a special relationship with bae
of all people

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>>66019261
It's probably more a frustration due to the lack of communication.
>pitch a project
>think it's approved all the way (assuming management doing their jobs)
>do all the work with planning, finding the resources needed etc.
>all the while thinking the other stakeholders(cover/management) are doing their parts
>only get told when you're close to "completion" of your work that something needs to get reworked/reconfirmed/completely redone due to management no doing their job
>not only have you potentially wasted 6 months of work, you also just announced that it's coming in the belief that everything was OK
Having been on the receiving end of shitty project managers I can sympathize with Bae.

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>>66019533
>basic financial literacy is for children
why do I even bother with you clowns kek I guess I shouldnt expect much after seeing the Cover financial report threads

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>>66019376
>muh investments
Everyone always says this but just how many of these women do you think are that fiscally responsible?

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>>66019393
It is because of work though. Men are expected to work long difficult hours for less than stellar pay. The yen is practically worthless and you're supposed to feel like it's an honor to be worked to the bone.

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>>66019413
>>66019376
If it was enough money they never had to work again, Sana wouldn't have graduated, Bae's parent's wouldn't have been so fucking autistic about college, and Ina would have quit her day job. the girls have mentioned not liking how much they pay in taxes and Kson has talked about how the individual girls aren't making the amount you think they are after cover and google's shares and other expenses.
And again, lotta professional athletes, singers and actors who had millions and still had to get a real job after.

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It’s fucking annoying when management sits on their hands. They literally just have to make emails and communicate, not like they have to illustrate, create videos, sing, mix, make instrumentals.

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>>66019543
This is pure speculation on my part, but I can't believe it's (again) management fucking up and not getting the necessary perms in time. It must be something with the video editing company not delivering in time, or maybe a HoloEn not providing a soundfile in time, maybe to fix a mistake / problem they noticed later on into production. Come on, it can't be fucking management again. Right? T_T

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>>66019663
Haha…

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>>66019655
Even though I'm not fond of the people in vshojo I will say that I respect how they don't do the Japanese bullshit

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>>66019713
*laughs in nux*

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the 1 million yen prize that she won was a trap, it is a certificate to spend on streams and projects, they gave it to her so they wouldn't have to think of a project but they still sabotage it cause cover management is shit

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>>66019763
I was pretty upset about that too and I didn't even like nux but what's one fuckup to a history of them? I'm tired of perms autism, I'm tired of seeing my oshis beaten up by managers who sit on their hands all day, I'm tired of this song and dance routine that's been going on.
I want an American corporation with the ability to do cool stuff and maybe even get cool crossovers

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>>66019663
Unless they come clean we'll never know. But I think it's not that much of a stretch to assume that a company that has had problems with internal miscommunication and bad management in the past still might have structural issues even if the worst actors are removed.
Unless Bae went with completely untested actors for recording/mixing/mv etc and they either are unable or unwilling to complete whatever task they set out. Another explanation would be delays causing an increase in budget leading to cover who's footing the bill to scrutinize it harder.

Pick your rrat.

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>>66019655
>They literally just have to make emails and communicate,
That can actually be really fucking hard.
Being in the same timezone makes it much easier, but the people you need to finalize something like an MV might be busy during their whole day.

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>>66019926
I pick this rrat https://files.catbox.moe/q0y3yu.jpg

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>>66019911
>and maybe even get cool crossovers
Fucking eww. I will never get the modern obsession with crossovers.

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>>66016502
Why do women get so emotional over this shit? The song hasn't been canceled and it's still going to come out. Just announce that it's delayed and move on. This is why women can't be trusted with any responsibilities. They fully emote without thinking about the situation logically.

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>>66019139
>Japans shitty work culture has led to a declining population
All of the west would be in the same situation if we weren't letting in millions of third world niggers to compensate lol, Japan is just pretty much the only major developed economy that is still largely closed to unqualified immigration

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>>66020107
Instead it's incredibly dependent on tourism and has been falling behind the rest of the world in terms of technology and research due to their long work hours with little breaks

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>>66019993
I just wanna build a bae at build a bear workshop......

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i wish my oshi worked 1/10 as hard as bae

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>>66020104
She put time and money into it and feels like she's disappointing her fans, maybe? Not to mention that Bae is just generally hard on herself. Have some empathy for my Baewife.

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>>66020388
I miss your oshi anon

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>>66019911
some competition for cover wouldn't be bad since vshojo and nijisanji are a fucking joke. Instead of the japanese autism and awkwardness like hakukin we would have idk pewdiepie

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>>66020104
Do you know how song releases work? They put their own money in it, she even said the million yen went into the project + her own money. Depending on what needs to be changee in the video to get the ok to go from management she has to pay again the editor, music recording studio, mixer, or even artist if something needs to change on the art too. She said she went out of her way to prevent this but it happened anyway, so probably didn't budget for something like this.
TLDR, it's just wasted money and time to re-edit it.

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>>66020450
That's what I've said before honestly. I oshi people in Niji and Holo but I'm so tired of this bullshit happening I could just scream. It's mentally draining on everyone

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>>66019981
wow, bae must really be into being japanese if she is already doing the bandaid over the pussy thing.
>>66019993
>>66019911
Gura should be able to throw out the first pitch at a red sox game

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>>66018134
Lol

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>>66020532
This is pure speculation and you have no idea why it got delayed. It could be something as simple as another schedule conflict like when it was pushed back a day due to the Advent outfits. You are getting emotional too without thinking.

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>>66020676
It was never pushed back a day due to advent outfits, it was pushed back by an hour, Bae already tweeted this out

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>>66020104
Because Bae put a lot of time and work into it and she feels like she is letting her fans down and also likely numberfag stress because the knows songs help her numbers but is too big a retard to realize she wouldn't be a runt if she stopped fag enabling.
I remember gura getting autistic about >letting the fans down, about something literally not a single fucking person in chat gave a shit about

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>every holo is actually a trillionaire which is why most of them still live with their mother. Wawa's money-issue was psy-ops

Alright... the whole 'money conspiracy' thing clearly isn't the point of this thread, so allow me to kill it now so we can refocus.

These are youtubers; not Hollywood mannequins. Depending on source-estimate, only ~30% of the superchats actually go to them. Ditto for Memberships.(Anyone who's ever had a consignment job can tell you that's actually generous. Usually you get 10-20%) And they technically 'have' a salary but it's the same sort as tipped employees like waitress where it's entirely eaten up in taxes and you're supposed to live on commissions. And, as far as merch goes... some of the girls are unaware they even 'have' merch sometimes, so that should say enough about how little, if any, of that trickles down to them. Cover, like all corpos, is only really lucrative for the shareholders.

To put a number on this, let's go to hololyzer and look at Kronii just to pick an example.

+ Let's assume, as mentioned earlier, that her regular salary and her taxes cancel each other out. (That's usually the norm for commissioned or tipped employees and makes the calculation much easier.)

+ So, Kronii's median SC ranking is ~￥250,000 or ~1,700 USD.
+ Let's assume the generous 30% cut; 30% of 1700 is 510 USD.
+ Let say she streams biweekly, so 8 streams a month; 510 x 8 = 4080 USD per month.

+ Now, for memberships. The highest number of members ever seen on one of her streams at once was 1890 for her anniversary, which is probably as close to perfect attendence as it's gonna get, so let's just say 2000 is the norm.
+ Monthly membership is 5 USD. So; 5 x 2000 = 10,000 USD monthly from her regular members.
+ Again, let's say her cut is the generous 30%. 30% of 10,000 is 3000 USD.

+ So, we add 4080 from SCs to 3000 from memberships to get an income estimate of $7080 monthly.

+ There's 12 months in a year, so 7080 x 12 = An annual income estimate of 84,960.

AND NOW, the talent's expenses.

In case anyone was unaware, Cover does not reimburse the girls for any equipment or commission costs. They're forced to pay that out of their own pocket. Matsuri first mentioned this in a 2021 stream and she and Marine have both talked about it several times since that making an original animation MV will run them around 1-2 million yen ($6.9k to $13.8k) and that's the reason why most of the girls can only afford to have one or two original songs. Bae burning though her $10k bonus in a single project a couple weeks ago also falls dead center into this range. We'll use that as our working estimate since 10 is a nice simple number.

-Let's once again be overly generous and say that a cover costs half as much as an original song to make. (Since the only thing this saves is lyrics, it's almost certainly a lot more.) In 2022, Kronii had one cover (1 x 5,000) and one original (1 x 10,000), so -15,000 annual estimate in nonreimbused expenses.

- 84,960 - 15,000 = Net annual income estimate of $69,960 USD for Ouro Kronii.

tl;dr: If you plug the math, the holo idols are turning about the same salary as a mid-tier white collar job. I was making about the same during my own dark days as a corpo scumbag. They're not poor, but a far cry from rich. I guarantee you that their emotional connection with their fanbase matters a hell of a lot more to them than does their paycheck.

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they should make me her manager i would work all day just for her to message me and this wouldn't have happened

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>>66016502
member's content leakers are fucking scum

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>>66020815
>Letting the fans down
Well then she should stop being emotional and just read the comments under her message. The fans don't care and are ready to listen to it whenever it comes out. It's really not as big a deal as she is making it out to be. How it should have gone.

Manager: Sorry Bae but we are going to have to delay the song for a bit to clean some stuff up
Bae: Sucks but I'll let everybody know
.
.
Bae: Sorry guys but the song has to be delayed for a bit but now it will be even better when it does come out
Fans: Awesome Bae, we are willing to wait however long it takes

Instead of

Bae: OMG the song got delayed I'm going to kill myself waahahhahahah
Fans: It's ok Bae, it's really not a big deal. You work hard and we will be ready to listen to how awesome it is when it does come out
Bae: NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I'M GOING TO ajsljapoewrhbaoirejb

So stupid.

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>>66016980
"After discussing with stakeholders" is still such a shit thing to say of Cover. I despise companies that glaze greedy cocksuckers who ruin things for personal gain.

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>>66020871
>the most popular girls arent millionaires because, given 38 additional assumptions, one of the midtier girls has only 30% more in net income than the average american fulltime wagie has in gross income
nahone

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>>66020871
>most girls only have 1 or 2 MVs because they have to pay for it themselves
>Bae has 6
She loves us.

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>>66020871
That's a very bad assumption on her number of members, especially when gifted memberships exist. You're also ignoring all of the other revenue streams which are more significant than superchats

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>>66021172
Retard, a lot of people are involved here, including sponsers, Zan, management and investors, cover can't just do whatever they want without even consulting with others.
They are called stakeholders for a reason.

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>>66021463
Kek
>Adrev
>Sponserships
>MOST IMPORTANTLY- MERCH

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>>66021271
>>66021463
>"Estimates... are ESTIMATED?"
I know, ESL-kun, English just gets so crazy sometimes, huh?

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>>66021614
I said you did a bad job at it, and thus weren't able to draw the correct conclusions

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>>66016502
poor rat

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>>66016144
All of you fucking animals are using this to fuel your chuuba wars. None of you even care about her. Fuck off

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>>66021614
You cant make shit up and claim it as a valid estimate.

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>>66021666
Sad Rat

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>>66021428
>wawa has 10

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>>66022176
But Anon even Kiara didn't call the the Point of View ones MVs outside of Pineapple, they're lyrics videos, it it because of her autism?

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>>66016502
Good job leaker, ignore the retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>66020229
>work hours meme

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>>66022350
damn they're lazy too?

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>>66020871
bad estimate, but that's also pretaxes, so post taxes it checks up

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>>66020954
I completely agree, but it makes sense that she'd want to see her creation come out in a sensible manner. Some people simply don't have patience / can't spin things in a positive manner. Bae is a hard worker but she's not perfect.

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>>66022828
He literally makes the assumption that her base salary and taxes owed cancel each other out, so the final value is after tax. It's pure schizoid conjecture

[Anonymous No.]

>>66022944
For tipped employees, it absolutely does. Anyone who's ever had a shit job waiting tables can confirm this much.

[Anonymous No.]

Poor rrat…

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
Look Japan at it again what was it this time, some rain and lightning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66021172
>getting mad at stakeholders
>for giving people refunds and making day 1 free instead of telling people to fuck off
Were you dropped on your head as a child?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66017122
These days shes getting paid jack shit for selling membership because you broke faggots keep sending broke ass third world ars sc that are worth about 2 dollars in U.S.D currency. If you already don't value your oshi's member's stuff don't expect others to fall in line

[Anonymous No.]

>>66023843
Do you think it's the actual members that encourage that and not the faggy attention whores doing it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66020871
Meh, you're forgetting the merch and the sponsorships. Just look at Ina, who recently collabed with Kronii in a shilling stream for FGO, which had more than 10k viewers for the biggest part of it; must be counted as a relatively important source of revenue. These kind of streams are precious for companies, I don't see them getting less than a couple thousands of dollars each for it (that number being debatable though).
Also, with merch, the numbers are pretty easy to get (if you trust /#/, which is complicated sometimes, even if their merch numbers don't seem too unrealistic). Let's take Ina as an example. With that numberfag thread from a week ago, we can estimate that Ina's plushie made around $60,000, and we learned a couple months ago that Cover gives around 50% of the merch sales to the talents. That already gives Ina roughly $30,000, only for the "friends with u" plushies.
We can get even deeper in the merch thing, going all the way back to her birthday merch, which sold out in a couple of minutes, but finding the numbers out of is too long and I'm lazy as fuck honestly. What I'm sure about is that the limited edition pack was around $150-$200, with roughly 1000 of them on sale, and with that in mind, we're already talking about tens of thousands of dollars.
She doesn't even have many expenses since she draws nearly all of her merch and her MVs herself too, which amplifies even more that amount of money.
The big conclusion here is that the SCs and memberships are relatively minor things for the talents. That's why Gura can keep being rich as fuck without streaming, she really doesn't need to. These girls definitely earn 5 figures a year if they don't fuck up too hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66018737
Most you faggots defending nippon with a dick in your mouth never been or set foot in Japan. Playing all the Yakuza games doesn't mean you know shit about Japan weaboo.

[Anonymous No.]

Obviously it was unacceptable due to lacking Holostars, this will give it time to correct that major mistake. Thank you Mr Jap

[Anonymous No.]

>>66023890
You don't even value her memberships lmao you're willing to buy 50 dollars gifts for 2 dollars using a VPN connected to some shithole country yet you have the audacity to complain when others don't value the importance of member content don't be angry improve yourself and start buying them in U.S.D otherwise shut the fuck up you stupid cunt faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

The amount of corporate cock sucking in this thread is insane. You guys could suck the skin off of a dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66024041
Who the fuck are you responding to here, you schizo? I don't even think gifted memberships should be a thing at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66024100
How the fuck that makes me a schizo? So you saying I'm making all of this up now? That you fags pay with broke ass ARS? Oh boy take a load of this guy. You're seeing the example of that in this thread but please don't let me distract you from the fact all you faggots wear rose colored tinted glasses when it comes to hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

I bet she tried to sneak in some homo references as she can't help herself and management shut her the fuck down
Learn your place whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>66024091
It's always like this in daytime JP hours. I'm pretty sure IRyS' manager spends more time shilling here than doing his actual fucking job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66024521
I beleb.
But the reality is Myth need to get their group song out first before Bae can drop her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66023966
>>66024521
now kiss

[Anonymous No.]

>>66023891
>merch
All profits go to the copyright-holder - IE Cover Corporation - not the talent. The corpo is under zero obligation to share any of it.

A fundamental point to understand about a corporation like this: The girls do not hold ownership over their VTuber identity - everything, the models, the music, the videos, the social media accounts - are company assets they've been permitted to access. They do not receive royalties nor hold even partial legal ownership. Were this not the case, Rushia and Sana could just delete the Cover logo from their banner and continue streaming as if nothing happened.

As for this random $30k number of yours... It's kind of bad luck for you that you chose to make up one of the few numbers we actually do know exactly from the Among Us yab. The girls are are given 50k yen ($344.25 USD) for merch-shilling. (With the underscore, being the greedy corpo shitstains they are, that Cover will not be pay them twice for doing 2 streams.)

If you think about it, that single known fact alone should be enough to debunk any 'The Girls Are Rich' schizorants... Yes, they're millionaires and Cover tries to grease them with 300 bucks. Completely believable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016502
>what can you do
stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66017122
>>66017306
>>66020877
Explain right now why anyone should give a FUCK that some content was behind a paywall, while you listen to unlicensed uploads of music on youtube, play pirated games, watch pirated shows and movies, and otherwise take whatever you can get for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016502
all content leakers go to heaven

[Anonymous No.]

>>66025392
There is a big fucking difference between Cover merch and talent merch and you know it.

Merch that's done for collabs, or stuff like HoloFes will be for Cover. But merch that's made for birthdays or anniversaries will (partly) go to the talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016736
She already mentioned that the song would not have subtitles. Due to that i think it is very credible that it's a perms issue

[Anonymous No.]

Why is JP corpo management always so fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66025392
You're getting stuff mixed, there's the sponsor stuff that managment posts on their group discord that is first come first serve but there are 2 more sponsorship categories, one being specific talent IP attached sponsors like being brand ambassadors and sponsors the talent pushes their managment to push to higher ups for them to pursue. The first two are out of the talents' control and revenue split favors the corpo since they're the ones handeling the bulk of arranging them. This actually makes them the most money even though the split favors the company because the overall revenue is greater. The last one the talents themselves push for are between just the talent and the sponsors as long as they have permission to do it from managment. For these the talent keeps most of the money but it's way less overall because they're given smaller payment in general. It's why the smart ones chase corpo sponsors. It's not an exact comparison but it's similar to b2b vs b2c. It's not a secret anyone that's done commerce deals know that b2b pays way more than b2c because of the risk involved. In b2b there is little incentive and possibility that either corpo will nuke their brand overnight because there's too many people involved in decision making and no one wants to fuck up something with their job on the line. In b2c you're literally hoping and praying the person doesn't turn out to be a pedo or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66026115
I can explain that with two simple words
newfags & underageb&

[Anonymous No.]

>>66027115
Not even newfags would give a shit about that, they'd be overcompensating with edginess if anything, definitely not the type to suck corporate dick and protect their profits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66026392
>no subtitles
better hope it's in english then, otherwise you know all the views are going straight to whoever uploads a version with translations

[Anonymous No.]

>>66028000
please understand, translations were just impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

REMINDER: IRyS once told us that the best way to get our complaints through management's fucking skulls is by emailing them here:

https://cover-corp.com/en/contact
https://cover-corp.com/en/contact
https://cover-corp.com/en/contact
https://cover-corp.com/en/contact
https://cover-corp.com/en/contact

Be clear, firm but cordial. Save your oshi before they fuck her over too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66028222
>emailing a vtuber company

No thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016502
Good job leaker
members post genuinely relevant to actual news so its worth sharing with the public.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66026475
>everyone else has no issues
>the troublemaking beggar fucks up and gets her shit cancelled
>cucks blame management

[Anonymous No.]

>>66028637
>everyone else has no issues
Except they do. Kiara, Kronii, Ame, IRyS all mentioned that they had some issues in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>holoen
who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
No wonder Gura left, Gura's original song and covers canceled last moment; Myth 3D anniversary thing Kiara and Myth pushed for denied; Fauna being burned out after going to Japan and refusing to do 3d events; Ame finally losing it with staff and stopped streaming for weeks; Bae's passion project with her money used and all EN involvement canned until whenever. Fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.]

If EN hologirls doesn’t earn 6 figures, please tell me why Kiawawa said she could purchase Jp citizenship for both her and her mother or Kronii rent a house in upper class area for her family and still had enough money for a 50 grands jaw surgery?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66028637
Never speak again and immediately kill yourself bitch turd skank spawn

[Anonymous No.]

>>66020871
any chuuba with maxed out emote slots (54) has at least 5000 members

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
Holy fucking karma

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016502
IGnore the people complaining, its the same retards shitting on Gura when she pots a single tweet or post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66019604
I actually think Gura would invest, if not under her own initiative then because of her family's influence. Calli could go either way. She herself is stupid with money in the way only kids who grew up upper middle class can be, but her stepdad and various family members are decent with finance so who knows. Ina's probably squared away by her tiger mom and dad. Kiara spends like trailer trash but seems to have at least hired a financial advisor based on some of her asides. Ame spends a lot on things like aquariums and vr setups and seems to have given a bunch to her family as well but she's also invested a lot into her own education and work experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>LE NIJISANJI B-B-BAD!!
>COVER CORP GOOD!!!!
Imagine believing this LMAO. Phase and Idol treat their Girls way better and thats not even taking the cream of the crop Vshojo into the equation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66019401
Nah thats another song she gave proof of in some members stream. She played a bit of the song and said for whatever reason Management told her they didnt have perms to release it after she had confirmed she could do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66028967
the problem is that it only takes ONE TIME for them to reach the 5k membership mark to unlock all of them. In Hololive that usually means the 1st month of monetization. If they drop below 5k memberships afterwards it doesnt matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016502
Considering this was a huge song release with all of HoloEN there is reason for Bae to be stressed out that it got delayed.

[Anonymous No.]

i understand why suddenly these post came up. someone is graduating. damn idk they have some damage control here

[Anonymous No.]

>>66029319
but who's to say they're not at 10,000 members?
i have an indie vtuber friend on youtube who averages 100ccv, she says she has 500~ members.
another with 30ccv~ has about 120 members.
going by a similar ratio of 1:5 or 1:4, a holo with 3k ccv can easily have 10k~15k members

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
i blame the earthquake. they really need to make an actual branch for EN so scheduling shits would be easier and not have to ask jap shits first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
Hey check out this post that aged poorly

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
anon, i...

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016502
so much sadness, depression and rage over literally nothing. Why are women like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
nijisisters not like this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

Since I haven't seen it mentioned yet, I want to add this.
Scheduling is important to the girls because of how much goes into the planning, alongside the fact that they obviously have other matters to tend to regarding Hololive-related and in their private life.
Bae is going to be busy with moving to Japan very soon, so any delays that might intersect or interrupt with what's already set in stone is obviously going to stress her the fuck out.
Other Holos have shared similar stories where delays or reschedules on projects were just more than "a small inconvenience".

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
Oof

[Anonymous No.]

>>66028637
Watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>66019347
god I wish I could choke on Matara Kan

[Anonymous No.]

>>66025392
You can just look at their quarterly reports to see how much the talents made, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016887 (Me)
Sorry, I meant Pomu's graduation. Excuse my chronic retardation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66020572
That would unironically be kino as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>66029990
Bae can barely get 1k viewers, she isn't getting 10k members
Probably why they axed her song, why waste resources on the runt

[Anonymous No.]

>>66035837
It must hurt knowing Bae is more successful than several nijiEN talents combined
Dont choke on that bitter pill

[Twithc No.]

>>66016177
KWABOTY

[Anonymous No.]

>>66035987
rent free?
im laughing my ass off at pomu cucking niji, that doesnt mean i cant laugh at bae being a homosleeve and getting some karma for what she did to mumei, bratcuck

[Anonymous No.]

>still larping and falseflagging as a hooman

Catalogchimps are the best recyclers on earth and also the worst comedians
Get new material dude, whats next youre gonna say she still talks in her debut voice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66018773
It depends, cause there's still plenty that's just hardwired into the Japanese mindset.

The Japanese side of Hololive has been able to get away with some stuff but God help them if some Gaijin tries the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016523
He repeatedly didn't get basic English right, what makes you think he has the basis to succeed with, let alone care about, our Latin loanword legalese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66017216
Actually there was some kind of music work between Bae and Vesper that was going to be release, but got canned after Vesper's contract lapsed. I think Bae released the artwork for it, later explaining a bit about the project that would have been, but not much more after that.
>>66019261
This is the first cover with all of EN. I'd be upset too if it was believed that it is a letdown for both fans and the talents.
>>66019926
It would be nice if Cover is footing the rest of the bill, but likely it is Bae that will have to pick up the rest. She had to put her own money into this and on top of it all, she'll be moving to Japan soon in which she'll very likely is on a very tight budget to do right now. My hope is that Bae doesn't feel the need to rush it through too quickly at this point and maybe aim for a Spring release instead once the funds are less tight.
>>66031649
Basically this

[Anonymous No.]

>>66019763
While that shit was a bad show, having seen more of Nux over the year... dudes kind of a massive retard

Like, I can see how the situation got to where it went

[Anonymous No.]

>>66028637
Dumb fuck even JP has had these issues and they're almost all within walking distance of management

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
GIVE ME YOUR RRATS
QUICKER
MORE

[Anonymous No.]

>>66038967
Pomus leaving still

[Anonymous No.]

>>66035268
1152 MM JPY divided by 87 talents makes it an average of about 13.24 MM JPY per talent, per quarter.
That is an average of more than 90K per quarter for the average talent. That is a yearly middle class income, in one quarter.
Then take into account this includes holostars which means the top earners of hololive make a multiple more than that. If we take into account a graph from an older report, the top 20 talents make 60% of the revenue and if we estimate the 60% of the 1152 MM JPY thats 691.2 million JPY or 4.7 million USD shared among the top 20 talents in one quarter.

tl;dr: Many holos are millionaires

[Anonymous No.]

>>66038967
Pomu graduation deflection

[Anonymous No.]

>>66018949
That sounds like a "good" kind of menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
>>66016502
she needs to chill out. some advice from a veteran shitposter :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>66040703
Cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
OH NO NO YOU CANT SAY THAY

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016502
Bae gotta chill. It will come out and we will love it

[Anonymous No.]

>>66025392
I don't know how to feel about this. On the one hand, $300 isn't a lot of money, but on the other hand, it's just playing video games. That's about as much as I won from a hackathon for building something useful for my big corp.

[Anonymous No.]

Surprised it was announced. She even specifically said in the announcement it wasn't finished yet.
Seems really weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
LMAOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016502
Bae's music isn't very good so it's a mercy killing if anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
Selen is going to graduate fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>66042076
It was just a bonus for an already finished promotion. Most of them didn't care about the 300$ so that's why barely anyone responded to Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
YOU DID THIS
IT WAS YOUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Anonymous No.]

>>66020871
>The highest number of members ever seen on one of her streams at once was 1890 for her anniversary
Kronii had over 3k members as of last December, and that's only counting the ones who actually chatted in one of her streams. Gifted members who don't engage (like myself) do not figure.
https://holochatstats.info/members
You also completely omitted other sources of revenue including merch, which, by all accounts, is where the talents receive the biggest cut and is likely their biggest source of income.
>>46160521

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
i think she needs to chill

[Anonymous No.]

>>66020104
>Why do women get so emotional over this shit?
This shit happened with Selen. Theres a pattern and its not surprising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
Feels like they're taking a piss at Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016229
>>66016412
Yeah, Pomu will emergency join Myth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
>I want fuwamoco to slow down!
meanwhile she can't even organize a collab, lazy zoomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>66046880
This angle is the most desperate latch I've seen from the nijinogs in recent times

[Anonymous No.]

>>66030489
>several thousand dollar 6 month long project involving her entire branch postponed last minute
>literally nothing
you're absolutely fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>66046594
based kantgobbler

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
Bae is leaving cover and going to nijisanji where she'll be able to fulfill her dreams.

[Anonymous No.]

That's unfortunate, would have been a nice finish to the day after the outfit relay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016144
>>66016502
just chill baby just take it easy queen
BAU BAU!

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016502
i like how she announced it the other day, gave a date, and then said it wasn't done yet, and how she was always about down the wire on her projects (even if she had supposedly been working on it for 6 months already). and then later in the very same stream she told FWMC to chill. as expected of a veteran streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016486
truly a niggersanji moment
kys btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>66047396
>the fax machine being clogged is the talents fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>66039920
>>66035268
>>66028846
I want to point out again, my argument isn't that they are broke or not rich. My argument is that it is very likely none of the girls have >I never have to work again in my life, kind of money.
Pulling a million per year pretax/prebusiness expense is good, but not >I can retire before 30, good. There is a lot of shit the girls do that wouldn't make sense if they were >I never need to work again, tier.
Like Bae living with her parents, gura's fucking water heater, ina says japan is too expensive to move to, coco and sana graduating, ina keeping her day job, mori and IRyS's tiny fucking apartments, Bae's dad being autistic about the cost of her moving to japan plus forcing her to finish college.
If they were super rich I think we would hear less about them being weird about money and more shit like Kobo's mom divorcing Kobo's dad and then going on Kobo's stream and asking who wants to dick down her and Kobo at the same time.
>>66029072
I'd assume the majority of Gura's cash is invested/in a bank considering she has lived in the same shitty apartment with the broken water heater for a while. Plus her parents hit the boomer lottery and are likely unironically richer than she is

[Anonymous No.]

>>66048554
watch the stream dummy. the cover isn't ready, if it's the mixing, art, or whatever, that's something she's working on, not management. she's the one being behind and not getting it done on time

[Anonymous No.]

>>66048707
Bull fucking shit, she says in the OP tweet that she made sure everything was properly checked and the cover was ready but something came up last second outside of her control. Somewhere between that stream and before the tweet was done, the cover was completed and ready for release until it wasn't and it had nothing to do with Bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>66048876
(me)
Not OP tweet, I meant here>>66016502

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177

[Anonymous No.]

>>66019347
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>66018784
qrd on the kronii thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66019619
>The yen is practically worthless
This doesn't matter, aslong as you buy stuff in yen (aka like in Japan) weak currencies don't have an impact
It's only when you try to convert yen that you get fucked

Wages in Japan ARE shit though so you're correct, just for the wrong reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>66048707
>>66048876
Management don't want the cover song and Advent new outfits steal the spott of each others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66048568
Didn't Kobo's dad have a heart attack a few months ago? It's more likely that he's fucking dead rather than Kobo's parents being divorced

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
NIJICOPE AND SEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

>>66048568
>Kobo's mom divorcing Kobo's dad and then going on Kobo's stream and asking who wants to dick down her and Kobo at the same time.
wtf lol, anyone got a clip of this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
anon....you just jinxed all of pomudachi

[Anonymous No.]

>>66018593
lol Canada is one of the easiest countries to live in, what are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66028846
>please tell me why Kiawawa said she could purchase Jp citizenship for both her and her mother
Because unlike most countries (Cyprus 2.5mil, US 1 mil) a Japanese investor visa is only like 40k

[Anonymous No.]

>>66019623
Retard trusting kson of all people. They’re all rich they just have to keep working to stay rich because they are almost as dumb as you with money

[Anonymous No.]

>>66021428
Retard

>>66020871
And this is how you know nobody actually watches hololive on this board. It’s just schizos pretending including the ones responding to you. If you watched anybody’s steams you’d know why you’re a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>66019623
>the girls have mentioned not liking how much they pay in taxes
And Calli threw away half her income in taxes because she was doing them wrong and didn't have the sense to consult an accountant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66052186
no she didn't retard, watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>66048568
Also being a millionaire isn't really rich these days. They haven't been doing this for a very long time, so they don't have 10s of millions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66052335
>watch streams
>Calli talks about losing most of her income paying tax to both the US and Japan
>didn't know about the US-Japan tax treaty
Ok, now what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66052186
Nigga you dont even watch her thats not even what happened

[Anonymous No.]

>>66052518
You're a fucking retard and I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66052533
>>66052569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkjWTZaapQ
>states multiple times that there is no tax treaty
>states multiple times that she paid 70-80% of her income in taxes

[Anonymous No.]

>>66052335
Why was she paying double taxes for a period then? I remember that dumb infographics about holomen revenue split was based on what she said once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>66052949
If your fucking retarded ass is capable of searching for clips, you're also capable of looking for clips newer than a year and a half ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66053013
She never was. The next stream she clarified that she assumed wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66053130
>no see after that she found out she fucked up and did her taxes properly the next year, that means she didn't fuck up the first time!
That's not how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66023891
You’re retarded the “friends with you” plushies gives them almost nothing because they don’t put any money or work towards it. Watch fucking streams or at least check the catalog for more than just drama

>>66025392
You’re dumb this isn’t cover merch or talent merch and this is only a bonus to get them to stream the game. Those directly involved get a larger cut of the sponsor itself

>>66035268
>>66039920
Someone did the actual math for this as we have the actual percentages the top 20 brings in but again you’re wrong. This is how much they bring in to the company not how much they made. A good example would be Lamy and Gura both had a lot of merch, sponsors and events for the year with lamy having like 3+ runs of her wine selling out most of which she funds/gets directly involved with vs Gura’s face being plastered on everything and selling out. 9/10 of gura’s shit was corporate she didn’t stream much so less ad rev, sc, and sponsors so Gura probably made cover more money than lamy did but lamy definitely brought more money home. Making 5 million but only keeping 1 million vs making 3 but taking home 1.2 million

>>66048568
You say this because you don’t watch streams. Mori has a huge place in Japan with a studio as well as 2 houses in America with one of them being paid off the other on lease(she’s not good with money), Gura literally got a new apartment then bought a house in 2022 and is already thinking about another in Japan this was still back in 2022 not to mention the only reason she didn’t drop 200k on a cover song was because her manager isn’t crazy (she’s dumb), Irys lived in a 2 bedroom 2 bath originally with her grandma that she wasn’t paying for now they moved to something bigger that she does pay for, Mumei went from having times where she’d have to live off canned tuna to buying a house, Kiara is planning to or already moved to a place by a lake starting price is 300k upwards of 1.2 million (probably leasing) and this is after moving into a condo, Ame bought a house rents an office and pays for a cleaning lady not to mention the 3D crap she bought that’s tens of thousands, Kronii bought a house for her and her mom, then Ina got a house with an office to try out independence (not working that well she’s still with her parents constantly) now plans to move to Japan. And this is all small potatoes compared to the money that JP/ID members waste. They are far from I don’t have to work anymore money but that’s entirely because they spend it faster than they can make it. If you make 20000 a month but spend 19500 a month you’re worse off than the man making 2000 but only spending 1000

[Anonymous No.]

>>66016177
aged like rotten milk

[Anonymous No.]

>>66053202
Ogey? Tell that to the anon who brought up holos complaining about taxes then. Either way she was wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine typing college essays on vtubers money it aint your money, you guys are fucking weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>66053454
>Gura literally got a new apartment then bought a house in 2022
you don't watch streams and you are brown. Gura still has the same fucking waterheater for years and she did not buy a house in 2022. She went house hunting, didn't find what she wanted and then reupped her lease on her apartment with the shitty waterheater. She even said she didn't move then and you can still hear the fucking water heater. She moved in like 2020 or 2021, but has been in the same apartment since then
>Mumei went from having times where she’d have to live off canned tuna
again, you are brown and don't watch streams. the >mumei only ate canned tuna shit wasn't due to her being poor, it was due to her being autistic and having an eating disorder. Mumei is the one who said her mom didn't let her have ketchup growing up.
the fact you got this shit wrong makes be think you are a brown thread reader who doesn't know shit and everything else you said is false and brown

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>>66052949
Funny thing about the IRS you can pay them without owing them and they won’t question it. To pay taxes in America she either sent international mail with a check or filled it out on an American tax site so there’s no misunderstanding whether or not she sent them money. She probably filled out the exact same information on both her Japan tax forms and on the American site paying both of them not realizing that A she didn’t have to fill out for America at all and B even if she was she could do them together still paying out less than what she probably did. But silver lining she probably did this same thing before meaning she would’ve received tax refunds from both countries for at least 1 year maybe more so now if she’s audited she won’t be arrested

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>>66053857
I'm honestly more interested in the business than the streamers, and /biz/ is one of the worst places to talk about money.

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>>66053454
Why do you think that this is how much they bring in to the company? >>66035268 shows how much money cover is paying for various expenses, and "performer remuneration" means that that is how much money they are paying the talents.

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>>66054031
>Says something didn’t happen then says well yea it did but that doesn’t count then starts projecting
Mumei literally went broke after debuting paying for games and shit. She even thought she was unsure if she could continue then after her first check she was like oh false alarm. Nobody watches streams but you so you should know when she said this

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>>66048568
A few millions can buy two houses, rent out one, invest the rest of the money and comfortably live without having to work or only minimally for the rest of their lives.

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>>66016177
This didn't age well, but maybe Selen will stay?

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>>66053454
>Someone did the actual math for this as we have the actual percentages the top 20 brings in but again you’re wrong. This is how much they bring in to the company not how much they made.
Talent remuneration is explicitly the money Cover pays out to the talents as a percentage of their output money. That graph isn't the revenue.

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>>66052508
Only an idiot would use the millions to retire and eat off the money. Instead they can just work less and use the millions to generate enough income for themselves for a lifetime.

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>>66054289
Because performer’s remuneration is bands, dancers, features the works which they had a lot both in prerecorded and in venue lives. Oh and all 3D lives are paid for by the talent with a small budget cover gives them which wouldn’t fall under remunerations. You can check translated JP clips of them talking about it most recently being lamy after her live. But if you want statistics instead of statements check when Q2 is and what performances were done at that time or go into #/global (don’t remember which) the day it dropped.

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>>66055588
For normal people maybe, but for some of them, streaming is like pulling teeth.

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>>66055059
That was more for the statement under the chart as opposed to the chart itself as it connected to the second one but you’re incorrect about talent remuneration. Remuneration in and of itself is wages both monetary and non monetary. The chart itself says these are expenses for concerts and merchandising sales. You might not know this but the costs for 3D lives are fronted by the talents and specialty merch is also by the talents. How could Cover be paying them a wage as a cost if they’re giving their money to Cover to cover the cost. Remunerations have to be things like salary, medical, stocks etc if they pay Marine 5k for her live but make her pay 15k to make it that would defeat the purpose. For arguments sake though let’s say that’s true it would be less effort on their part if they didn’t charge them as they could use it as a tax write off and make more money overall. But you know who they do pay? Dance instructors, bands, extras, choreographers, the people in the studio these are the one’s getting salaries. Though there are cases of them being sent to other studios (Subaru/Towa) or finding their own choreographers (Kiara)

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>>66055588
Really depends 1 million dollars cash you could live a modern suburban lifestyle without ever having to work again the only issue would be trying to fill in 160 hours of new free time without spending money but you can easily live 40+ years off it if you don’t get greedy. Sometimes not working and living in comfort is enough but you’re definitely right

>>66055855
New year new me

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>>66016144
WTF is Mind Craft and why is she so invested in it?

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>>66059965
From earlier post it seems to be a holoen collab song including everyone. Last one was ochame kinou/12 days of Christmas back in 2021

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>>66019393
Marraige then
>virgin
>exclusivity
>children
>she does most housework you earn most money
now
>used up roastie who thinks she settles for you becuas echad pumped and dumped her
>may divorce you, her friend is talking about an "opening the marriage"
>she can't cook, and thinks asking her if she can clean up after herself is oppression
>if she doesn't kill your kids she changes their gender for online attention
>can divorce at any time and fuck you over

It's not work hours, as even when they gave men more time they stayed out of the house. It's culture, feminism and liberalism are incompatible with modern relationships and we will see many, many sad men and women who could have been happy families, but are now childless and bitter. It's funny people post on /vt/ and can't figure out how bad modern relationships are. Is "work culture" why people seek out vtubers for social interaction? It's social decay because of the fucked up dating and gender dynamics.

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>>66061884
Truth posting pill poster I kneel posted